Breaking: Obama administration to loosen deportation rules

posted at 10:44 am on June 15, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

So, the “framing” economic speech yesterday was a bust — yeah, they’re going to need us to move away from that ol’ chestnut pretty quickly — so here comes the next big talking point in the Obama-campaign wheelhouse.

President Obama has decided that the Homeland Security Department will no longer deport younger illegal immigrants who haven’t broken the law, and will instead issue them work permits.

 The Obama administration will stop deporting and begin granting work permits to younger illegal immigrants who came to the U.S. as children and have since led law-abiding lives. The election-year initiative addresses a top priority of an influential Latino electorate that has been vocal in its opposition to administration deportation policies.

The policy change, described to The Associated Press by two senior administration officials, will affect as many as 800,000 immigrants who have lived in fear of deportation. It also bypasses Congress and partially achieves the goals of the so-called DREAM Act, a long-sought but never enacted plan to establish a path toward citizenship for young people who came to the United States illegally but who have attended college or served in the military.

Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano was to announce the new policy Friday, one week before President Barack Obama plans to address the National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials’ annual conference in Orlando, Fla. Republican presidential challenger Mitt Romney is scheduled to speak to the group on Thursday.

Updates to follow…

Update: At least as far as the Latino community is concerned (and opinion abounds on the electoral significance of Latinos as a voting group, and whether they really vote so monolithically), this is going to present a stiff challenge for Romney’s campaign. As ABC points out:

The Obama administration is likely to deny that politics played a role in the announcement, but the timing is ideal for the president’s reelection campaign. In the GOP primary, Mitt Romney adopted strictly conservative positions against illegal immigration in his effort to woo right-wing voters. He backs a strong fence along the border with Mexico, opposes most amnesty and boasts of his move as Massachusetts governor to deny in-state tuition for illegal immigrants. …

Obama’s announcement today is likely to curry favor with Hispanics, a key growing voting bloc who could determine the winner in November in important states like Florida, Colorado and Nevada. The president currently beats Romney among Hispanics in polls, but most Latinos say they disapprove of his deportation policy.

Deportation rates under President Obama have actually been relatively high — a point about which many Latino voters and immigration advocates have been displeased. This could be a crucial appeasement-move that will inspire Latinos to get to polls in November.

Can President Obama even do this without Congressional approval? I’m not sure, but then again, it hardly matters. If he can, great; if he can’t, great: It’s just another jab he can aim at an “obstructionist,” “do-nothing” Congress.

Update (Ed): So …. he’s going to hand out hundreds of thousands of work permits when unemployment is at 8.2% nominal, 14.8% U-6, and the civilian participation rate is near the 30-year low Obama set last month (now 63.8%)?  The only thing this accomplishes is driving the labor rate further downward and the unemployment rate further upward.  Work permits make sense when you’re creating jobs, but not when jobs are scarce.  I’m not sure that’s going to endear Obama to unions and blue-collar voters struggling to find work already.

Update (back to Erika): A calculated move to steal some of Sen. Marco Rubio’s alternative-DREAM-Act thunder? It’s widely known that Sen. Rubio has been crafting legislation that would give visas to undocumented immigrants who were brought here as children if they attend college or join the military, though it would not provide legal permanent residency — and President Obama’s plan sounds pretty darn similar. Plenty of Republicans aren’t exactly thanking Rubio for his upcoming proposal, but as a tea-party rockstar with Hispanic roots, Rubio is a major threat to Democrats’ claim that they’re the best political party for Latinos’ interests. Team Obama definitely needed to get out in front on this one.

Update: Here are some immediate reactions from our Congresspeople concerning the Obama campaign’s — er, sorry, I mean, the White House’s — newest immigration policy.

Rep. Allen West, R-Florida

“This is yet another example of executive branch overreach. We have a legislative process that ensures representative governance by the consent of the American people. This action should be crafted into legislation, debated in committee and brought before the House and Senate for vote, with accordance of our Constitutional Republic way. Secretary Napolitano is an unelected administrative bureaucrat who does not have the right to make governing decisions for this country. It is apparent that the goal of the Obama administration is not to govern, but rule by edict. This again is a reflection of the desperation of President Obama and his liberal progressive disciples as November draws nearer. …

Sen. Robert Menendez, D-New Jersey

“For all the young people who call this country their home but have been unable to fulfill their dreams, I am profoundly grateful to the President and the Administration for suspending the deportation of Dreamers. For these young men and women who want to become doctors, teachers, police officers and soldiers, this announcement will change their lives forever.”

Update: Let Homeland Security Secretary Napolitano be clear: This is not to be confused with amnesty.

“A grant of deferred action is not immunity, it is not amnesty,” Napolitano told reporters. “It is an exercise of discretion.”

Update: Sen. Rubio responded by saying that the content of Obama’s proposal is “welcome news,” but was quick to decry the manner of it:

“Today’s announcement will be welcome news for many of these kids desperate for an answer, but it is a short term answer to a long term problem,” the Cuban American Rubio said in a statement. “And by once again ignoring the Constitution and going around Congress, this short term policy will make it harder to find a balanced and responsible long term one.”


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Not being flippant here. Seriously. But watching that statement by Barack, I’m seeing someone who is plunging into mental illness. The hairs stood up on my neck a bit. The guy is really starting to resemble Muammar Gaddafi. Seriously.

Rational Thought on June 15, 2012 at 3:14 PM

Heckler was Munro, nutjob reporter from The Daily Caller. Show some f-ing respect.

lostmotherland on June 15, 2012 at 2:49 PM

Indeed, he should have thrown a pie, glitter bombed or wandered around with an altered pic of “Obama as Hitler” sign.

If he had more time he could have made a short about Obama getting assassinated and presented it to the assembled crowd.

kim roy on June 15, 2012 at 3:14 PM

They did in Congress:

Democrats boo Bush during 2005 SOTU

Del Dolemonte on June 15, 2012 at 3:13 PM

A member of the media doing their job in now a such a rare thing that it’s considered news.

Sad.

tetriskid on June 15, 2012 at 3:14 PM

If he was involved in F&F, then he’s also an accessory to murder. If he was involved in the WH leaks… and so on.

The Rogue Tomato on June 15, 2012 at 2:37 PM

I haven’t read all 8 pages of comments so if this issue has already been discussed, my apologies.

As has been mentioned by others, as we understand it this EO will not give these newly pardoned illegals the right to vote (I know, some of them may already do so, but let’s assume they don’t).

I contend that this move was simply to get out in front of the outrage that’s going to occur when the facts about Fast and Furious start coming out in the next few weeks and months.

Sort of the boy king’s way to “soften the blow” when the Mexicans living in America learn that this administration authorized the illegal transport of guns into the hands of Mexican drug cartels, who then used them to murder hundreds of innocent Mexican citizens.

btw, it’s nice to see that others have finally realized what I’ve been saying since the day she showed up here.

That joana is nothing more than a moby troll. It is best to just ignore “flakes” like her.

Flora Duh on June 15, 2012 at 3:15 PM

He’s saying those kids who are in Afghanistan and such will welcome these news. And they will.

joana on June 15, 2012 at 3:06 PM

Ummmm…yeah.

HB3 on June 15, 2012 at 3:15 PM

This is also an opportunity for Romney. Hit Obama hard on it. Call for hearings, legal action, impeachment if warranted. This is the time to go for the jugular, politically speaking, since it is obviously a desperation move on Obama’s part. Take advantage of the chance and attack!

spiritof61 on June 15, 2012 at 3:14 PM

YES!

The Rogue Tomato on June 15, 2012 at 3:15 PM

I hope he gets the living sh!t sued out of him. This is disgusting and enraging to say the very least.

RDE2010 on June 15, 2012 at 3:15 PM

YOU can “shamelessly play along”. If Mitt supports ANY of this…..I’ll sit this one out.

tencole on June 15, 2012 at 3:07 PM

I WILL. I’m also going to volunteer, send money, and do everything in my power to help get Mitt Romney elected president.

Punchenko on June 15, 2012 at 3:16 PM

How is that respecting the office if O is Prez? You make no sense.

lostmotherland on June 15, 2012 at 3:01 PM

So, tell us all how YOU respected Bush by calling him “Chimpy”.

kingsjester on June 15, 2012 at 3:02 PM

Remember this website? It never shut down.

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/

Del Dolemonte on June 15, 2012 at 3:16 PM

Man this has been just one crappy day from start to finish.

gophergirl on June 15, 2012 at 3:10 PM

Yep, too many good news the week prior, we should have known that something like this was coming..

jimver on June 15, 2012 at 3:16 PM

I don’t see how this is going to save Obama. His Obamacare may be struck down as early as Monday, which would erase this from the news cycle as early as then. (My understanding is that SCOTUS hands down their verdicts on Mondays, so it would either be this one or next one, no?) The economy is in the toilet and only appears to be getting worse. And, he’s neck and neck with Romney in WI and MI, which don’t have a lot of Latinos and have a lot of union workers probably pissed off by this.

That said, I think Rubio took himself off the ticket today, unless they are going to try to out-pander Obama on this by saying they support it but just not by EO. I think you might as well pick up Jindal or Portman, who have their own strategic advantages outside of their cheap Latino pandering.

The Count on June 15, 2012 at 3:16 PM

Has Romney given his scheduled speech, yet ?
I don’t remember the timing, is all.

pambi on June 15, 2012 at 3:16 PM

“NOT WHILE I’M SPEAKING!”

CherryBombsBigBrownBeaver on June 15, 2012 at 3:16 PM

NO ONE GETS TO QUESTION THE WIZARD! *poof*

sentinelrules on June 15, 2012 at 3:16 PM

Did you ever notice how much ObaMao usurps power by hiding behind skirts–er, pantsuits? Janet Napolitano, Sebelius, Hillary/Susan Rice/ Samantha Power, Jarrett, Pelosi, Hilda Solis, the EPA babe (Jackson?) etc.? O’s hands are clean, in other words. All of his surrogate moms made him do these acts.

onlineanalyst on June 15, 2012 at 3:17 PM

When he hung a Mao ornament on his “Christmas” tree?

He did this? Links please (though its pretty cute if he did).

Or maybe it was when he made a joke about his wife’s attitude towards oral sex?

He did this? Links please. Though if he did I am sure it was in a clever and oblique way. The more relevant question is why is a reference to oral sex between two monogamously married people somehow degrading? Sex is part of expressing love in a relationship and is nothing to be ashamed of. Why are you ashamed of it?

libfreeordie on June 15, 2012 at 3:12 PM

FFS. The oral sex joke was under two weeks ago. Quit trying to spin everything away. It was tacky and beneath the office.

Oh wait.

Show some f-ing respect.

lostmotherland on June 15, 2012 at 2:49 PM

I wonder if you weren’t a cat toy whether you’d have any purpose at all.

kim roy on June 15, 2012 at 3:17 PM

We’ll soon to find out that 100% of the Senators and Congressmen are liberals, from the perspective of the crazies.

None will call for an impeachment. So, they’re nothing but liberals – and probably illegal immigrants themselves.

joana on June 15, 2012 at 3:18 PM

pambi on June 15, 2012 at 3:16 PM

Jimver said it’s 2:30 p.m.. I hope he says the right thing.

kingsjester on June 15, 2012 at 3:18 PM

This is also an opportunity for Romney. Hit Obama hard on it. Call for hearings, legal action, impeachment if warranted. This is the time to go for the jugular, politically speaking, since it is obviously a desperation move on Obama’s part. Take advantage of the chance and attack!

spiritof61 on June 15, 2012 at 3:14 PM

You sir are living in a dream world if you think Mitt is going to “hit Obama hard” on anything.

tencole on June 15, 2012 at 3:18 PM

“When he hung a Mao ornament on his “Christmas” tree?”

He did this? Links please (though its pretty cute if he did).
libfreeordie on June 15, 2012 at 3:12 PM

Cute? Mao Ze-Dong and his so-called “cultural revolution” were the direct cause of the deaths of over 30 million people. Using his image as a Christmas ornament is cute? Jesus, but you have a warped sense of cute. Here’s your link, though the WH claimed it didn’t know the ornaments were there.

totherightofthem on June 15, 2012 at 3:18 PM

YOU can “shamelessly play along”. If Mitt supports ANY of this…..I’ll sit this one out.

tencole on June 15, 2012 at 3:07 PM

I WILL. I’m also going to volunteer, send money, and do everything in my power to help get Mitt Romney elected president.

Punchenko on June 15, 2012 at 3:16

Ditto…I can only do the money thing, I’m in Cali, it won’t matter here otherwise anyways..but the money will, overall…

jimver on June 15, 2012 at 3:19 PM

The POS goes around Congress because Congress is a nutless pack of turds who just let it happen. They still fear His Imperial Blackness.

SKYFOX on June 15, 2012 at 3:19 PM

None will call for an impeachment. So, they’re nothing but liberals – and probably illegal immigrants themselves.

joana on June 15, 2012 at 3:18 PM

I don’t know why everyone is ignoring this story, but Rep. Steve King is going to sue his azz over this. There’s at least one congressman who doesn’t fit in your box.

The Rogue Tomato on June 15, 2012 at 3:19 PM

hat joana is nothing more than a moby troll. It is best to just ignore “flakes” like her.

Flora Duh on June 15, 2012 at 3:15 PM

Thank you. I thought it was just my view. Until today. It appears my assessment of her was just my quirky view. ;)

totherightofthem on June 15, 2012 at 3:20 PM

Man this has been just one crappy day from start to finish.

gophergirl on June 15, 2012 at 3:10 PM

Yep, too many good news the week prior, we should have known that something like this was coming..

jimver on June 15, 2012 at 3:16 PM

Why? I thought doing this was a political loser for Obama!

joana on June 15, 2012 at 3:20 PM

“When he hung a Mao ornament on his “Christmas” tree?”

He did this? Links please (though its pretty cute if he did).
libfreeordie on June 15, 2012 at 3:12 PM

And you are pretty brain dead if you think that is ‘cute’…but then what’s new..

jimver on June 15, 2012 at 3:20 PM

The POS goes around Congress because Congress is a nutless pack of turds who just let it happen. They still fear His Imperial Blackness.

SKYFOX on June 15, 2012 at 3:19 PM

As long as Boehner and potentially McConnell, are at the helm…..this will continue no matter who’s POTUS.

tencole on June 15, 2012 at 3:21 PM

I think you might as well pick up Jindal or Portman, who have their own strategic advantages outside of their cheap Latino pandering.

The Count on June 15, 2012 at 3:16 PM

Jindal would be the best pick. He’s Southern, smart, a governor, nerdy, and is completely non-controversial.

Punchenko on June 15, 2012 at 3:21 PM

None will call for an impeachment. So, they’re nothing but liberals – and probably illegal immigrants themselves.

joana on June 15, 2012 at 3:18 PM

I don’t know why everyone is ignoring this story, but Rep. Steve King is going to sue his azz over this. There’s at least one congressman who doesn’t fit in your box.

The Rogue Tomato on June 15, 2012 at 3:19 PM

Do you even understand what an impeachment is? The difference between suing the administration – something that happens more often than you think – and initiating an impeachment proceeding?

I think you’re a bit confused.

joana on June 15, 2012 at 3:22 PM

Why? I thought doing this was a political loser for Obama!

joana on June 15, 2012 at 3:20 PM

It’s a political loser for Obama but bad news for the country. Contrary to what you liberals think, none of like seeing the economy destroyed even if it helps our electoral prospects.

Doomberg on June 15, 2012 at 3:22 PM

Not being flippant here. Seriously. But watching that statement by Barack, I’m seeing someone who is plunging into mental illness. The hairs stood up on my neck a bit. The guy is really starting to resemble Muammar Gaddafi. Seriously.

Rational Thought on June 15, 2012 at 3:14 PM

He needs to start appearing in military uniform.

HB3 on June 15, 2012 at 3:22 PM

Not being flippant here. Seriously. But watching that statement by Barack, I’m seeing someone who is plunging into mental illness. The hairs stood up on my neck a bit. The guy is really starting to resemble Muammar Gaddafi. Seriously.

Rational Thought on June 15, 2012 at 3:14 PM

Any day I expect to see him show up wearing a homemade military uniform with ten stars on it or something.

TarheelBen on June 15, 2012 at 3:22 PM

Ditto…I can only do the money thing, I’m in Cali, it won’t matter here otherwise anyways..but the money will, overall…

jimver on June 15, 2012 at 3:19 PM

Don’t be so sure. Lots of Californians are hurting, and CA has a way of voting for change that can be surprising. You live in Reagan’s home state, after all! And the way the Obama campaign is working lately, outside of Hollywood he could lose a lot of support in CA.

hawksruleva on June 15, 2012 at 3:22 PM

lostmotherland on June 15, 2012 at 2:58 PM

You on the Left do your heckling of a Republican President — certainly of Bush — using Hollywood and the Journolisters.

The list of “heckling of President Bush” could fill several sports stadiums if written on single letter-size paper.

Lourdes on June 15, 2012 at 3:23 PM

Man this has been just one crappy day from start to finish.

gophergirl on June 15, 2012 at 3:10 PM

Yep, too many good news the week prior, we should have known that something like this was coming..

jimver on June 15, 2012 at 3:16 PM

Why? I thought doing this was a political loser for Obama!

joana on June 15, 2012 at 3:20 PM

Wow, you really are an idiot. Not everything is about politics. The Constitution is more important than whether or not this is a polical loser. Wow…

MobileVideoEngineer on June 15, 2012 at 3:23 PM

He needs to start appearing in military uniform.

HB3 on June 15, 2012 at 3:22 PM

Oops! You beat me to it.

TarheelBen on June 15, 2012 at 3:23 PM

I think you’re a bit confused.
joana on June 15, 2012 at 3:22 PM

And I think you’re snobbish Liberal, who snuck in to HA, pretending to be a Moderate Romney supporter.

kingsjester on June 15, 2012 at 3:24 PM

I like the headline for this at Breitbart.

OBAMA JOBS PROGRAM: HELP ILLEGALS COMPETE WITH AMERICANS FOR SCARCE JOBS

The Rogue Tomato on June 15, 2012 at 3:24 PM

This makes an interesting precedent. What laws might a future Republican president simply decide to not enforce? A democratic president?

slickwillie2001 on June 15, 2012 at 3:24 PM

You sir are living in a dream world if you think Mitt is going to “hit Obama hard” on anything.

tencole on June 15, 2012 at 3:18 PM

I can’t disagree, but–a boy can dream, can’t he? For an hour, I can fantasize what Mitt might do if he weren’t a liberal squish. Imagine the golden opportunity to stomp a sitting president into the ground and appear statesmanlike at the same time. Indulge me…

spiritof61 on June 15, 2012 at 3:24 PM

Politico called it “heckling” so all the Obama loving media will call it that too. They certainly were in love with the guy that threw the shoe at Bush. But this is beyond the pale!!! /fakeoutrage.

If you can’t ask questions anyway, then why not risk getting tossed out of the pool by forcing a question through?

MechanicalBill on June 15, 2012 at 3:24 PM

jimver on June 15, 2012 at 3:16 PM

Why? I thought doing this was a political loser for Obama!

joana on June 15, 2012 at 3:20 PM

Yes, If it backfires, but then I am skeptical….after al you are the expert on the Hispanics voting patterns…will this embolden them to vote for O in the swing votes states (I am talking about the legal ones, with a right to vote), will this change anyting in Fl, Ne, Co, etc., woll they still ine in play for republicans…I guess we’ll have to wait for the first polls to come out., but of course am worried…

jimver on June 15, 2012 at 3:25 PM

“In answer to your question, sir — and the next time I’d prefer you’d let me finish my statement before you ask that question — is this is the right thing to do for the American people,” Obama told Munro.

while i agree that protocol is important…let’s not miss barry’s answer to Munro. The right thing to do for the American People?

Really? One problem with a captured press is that they allow the leftist incumbent to live in a bubble. Epistemic closure is of course the phrase

It’s fine and dandy to ‘care’ about the hispanic youth…but the job that the illegal takes is one less job for a citizen. So citizens are hurt by this.

Also, i know hispanics are an important voting block…but concentration on these people cheat the African, Indian, the Indonesian who also want to come to the US.

I realize that the left is just a large exercise in graft, patronage and clientalism…but no barry is wrong about it being good for Americans as a whole

r keller on June 15, 2012 at 3:25 PM

How exactly are they going to PROVE when and how they were kidnapped by their parents across the border? By welfare checks? The identity theft that was filed by the victim?

CherryBombsBigBrownBeaver on June 15, 2012 at 3:26 PM

I think you’re a bit confused.
joana on June 15, 2012 at 3:22 PM

And I think you’re snobbish Liberal, who snuck in to HA, pretending to be a Moderate Romney supporter.

kingsjester on June 15, 2012 at 3:24 PM

Well, and some other crazies think I’m an illegal immigrant and a Hispanic. I couldn’t care less.

I’ll just notice that for some nutjobs, calling this out as a unconstitutional power grab means you’re a “snobbish Liberal” if you also supporter Rubio’s version of the Dream Act whose provisions had, according to all polls, the support of up to 84% of the American voters.

joana on June 15, 2012 at 3:27 PM

To Neil Munro…

“THIS IS WHAT DEMOCRACY LOOOKS LIKE!”

sentinelrules on June 15, 2012 at 3:27 PM

Why do this five months before an election? Why not wait and make it an October surprise?

He wants them to have time to get a motor-voter driver’s license, absent-mindedly check the citizen box, and let ACORN get them registered to vote in time for November. This is also why the moron Holder is attacking Florida’s purges.

slickwillie2001 on June 15, 2012 at 3:28 PM

lostmotherland on June 15, 2012 at 2:53 PM

You’re falling on deaf ears. Whiteness is a helluva drug #RickJamesShade

libfreeordie on June 15, 2012 at 3:02 PM

We know, we know, your memes are “you’re racist” and that’s about it. But you’re ALSO anti-White. Which means, you all on the Left ARE THE ACTUAL racists.

It’s so old, so crusted over junk garbage talk from the Left. No one believes you and you only continue to embarrass yourselves since the only racism that’s observed is yours. About “White people.”

You on the Left are prejudiced and end of story.

Lourdes on June 15, 2012 at 3:28 PM

When he hung a Mao ornament on his “Christmas” tree?
He did this? Links please

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/12/23/white-house-christmas-decor-featuring-mao-zedong-comes/

Right Mover on June 15, 2012 at 3:28 PM

Just wait until those working through the red tape for their citizenship find out that the funds they’re paying for that privilege will be diverted into this program !!!
Hope that’s shouted LOUDLY before Nov !!

pambi on June 15, 2012 at 3:28 PM

Man this has been just one crappy day from start to finish.

gophergirl on June 15, 2012 at 3:10 PM

Oh, and it getting even better. *sigh*

http://www.examiner.com/article/blogger-vanderboegh-reports-murdered-ice-agent-was-investigating-fast-and-furiou

tencole on June 15, 2012 at 3:29 PM

according to all polls, the support of up to 84% of the American voters.

joana on June 15, 2012 at 3:27 PM

Please produce all the polls. Thanks in advance.

kingsjester on June 15, 2012 at 3:29 PM

Politico called it “heckling” so all the Obama loving media will call it that too. They certainly were in love with the guy that threw the shoe at Bush. But this is beyond the pale!!! /fakeoutrage.

If you can’t ask questions anyway, then why not risk getting tossed out of the pool by forcing a question through?

MechanicalBill on June 15, 2012 at 3:24 PM

When they show the tape — and they’ll have to — 100% of voters will say to themselves, “So now asking the president a question is ‘heckling’?” This isn’t going to turn out like Barack thinks it is. He thinks he’s clever. Everyone has always told him he’s a clever little guy. He’s not. And the backlash on this is going to be wild.

Rational Thought on June 15, 2012 at 3:29 PM

FWIW I’m not reading your wall of texts.

I stopped after your “theory” that the reason there are more Mexican illegal immigrants than Chinese and Ireland illegal immigrants is because of the shared-culture of Hispanics that make them more prone to break “our laws” and that Rubio’s law is “ethnic-cleansing” and “Marxist” even though the bill doesn’t make any reference to ethnicities whatsoever.

Reply to me all you want, but I’m just letting you know that I don’t lose any time arguing with people who have your type of ideas – like believing ethnicity is a factor on determining which individuals are more or less prone to abide to the law. That’s the type of person I rather not have any type of social interaction with.

joana on June 15, 2012 at 3:02 PM

Ohh, good, I don’t have to see any more “replies” from “joana. Pschewww, thanks.

Additionally, I don’t need your permission to comment or not and I tend to never be “reply(ing)” to you but instead attempting to talk through your cage at you.

Lourdes on June 15, 2012 at 3:30 PM

Ditto…I can only do the money thing, I’m in Cali, it won’t matter here otherwise anyways..but the money will, overall…

jimver on June 15, 2012 at 3:19 PM

Don’t be so sure. Lots of Californians are hurting, and CA has a way of voting for change that can be surprising. You live in Reagan’s home state, after all! And the way the Obama campaign is working lately, outside of Hollywood he could lose a lot of support in CA.

hawksruleva on June 15, 2012 at 3:22 PM

I can only hope, but we know all too well that the hords of moochers here count and hand cali to obama on a silver plate…how can you otherwise explain that an idiot like brown was elected governor here…

jimver on June 15, 2012 at 3:30 PM

Yes, If it backfires, but then I am skeptical….after al you are the expert on the Hispanics voting patterns…will this embolden them to vote for O in the swing votes states (I am talking about the legal ones, with a right to vote), will this change anyting in Fl, Ne, Co, etc., woll they still ine in play for republicans…I guess we’ll have to wait for the first polls to come out., but of course am worried…

jimver on June 15, 2012 at 3:25 PM

The problem isn’t even with Hispanic voters.

This won’t widen Obama’s share of the Hispanic vote; it’ll just assure their expected turnout rate increases.

But this stuff is supported by a majority of Americans of all races. People who don’t want to provide a path to legal residence not even to those serving in the military that were brought here as kids may be prevalent in HotAir but are a tiny minority in the real world.

And it went from being a winning issue for us, via the Rubio bill, to a winning issue for him.

Even if he doesn’t gain much, he prevents us from turning immigration into an winning issue for us, as Rubio’s bill would have done.

joana on June 15, 2012 at 3:30 PM

Bush Booed and Heckled in his last official act as President

The left heckled him until the very last second.

faraway on June 15, 2012 at 3:31 PM

No. Whatever you think, he’s the President. Show the Office some respect.

lostmotherland on June 15, 2012 at 2:53 PM

Do you even know what the office of the President entails? The President is the head of the executive branch of the US government and serves as Commander in Chief of the armed forces. In this role, it is the president’s duty to administer the laws passed by the legislative branch of the US government.

What the president did today just usurped that role as executive in charge of administering laws and stepped into the role of writing those laws himself. He himself, during his rambling speech, made the statement that because the DREAM act is stalled in Congress, he has taken it upon himself to implement the DREAM act himself via executive order while calling upon congress to get the DREAM act passed into law.

Do you, oh troll, have any inkling of exactly what that means? A president of the United States just “deemed” a law that he wants as passed, has implemented it by executive order, and is now demanding that Congress pass that act into law post-implementation. At this point, Barack Hussein Obama has passed from being President of the United States to Supreme Leader of the United States essentially ordering the separate and co-equal legislative branch to affirm his executive order by rubber stamping his actions by passing legislation he deems already in force.

AZfederalist on June 15, 2012 at 3:31 PM

AZfederalist on June 15, 2012 at 3:32 PM

He needs to start appearing in military uniform.

HB3 on June 15, 2012 at 3:22 PM

I’d laugh if it wasn’t so true.

tencole on June 15, 2012 at 3:32 PM

957 comments and climbing. Some are even dealing with the issue at hand, which is that Obama has yet again pissed on the Constitution.

ConservativeLA on June 15, 2012 at 3:32 PM

joana on June 15, 2012 at 3:02 PM

CUNNING STUNT, MOBY!

Shay on June 15, 2012 at 3:33 PM

AZfederalist

OK, if you say so. Take him to court.

lostmotherland on June 15, 2012 at 3:33 PM

I’m just letting you know that I don’t lose any time arguing with people who have your type of ideas – like believing ethnicity is a factor on determining which individuals are more or less prone to abide to the law. That’s the type of person I rather not have any type of social interaction with.

joana on June 15, 2012 at 3:02 PM

You are that type of person, moron. I guarantee you know enough not to go into certain ethnic areas for fear of violent crime.

DFCtomm on June 15, 2012 at 3:33 PM

They did in Congress:

Democrats boo Bush during 2005 SOTU

Del Dolemonte on June 15, 2012 at 3:13 PM

Ha, but they were not “racists”.

Schadenfreude on June 15, 2012 at 3:34 PM

No. Whatever you think, he’s the President. Show the Office some respect.

lostmotherland on June 15, 2012 at 2:53 PM

Similar concessions were made to Adolph Hitler. Respect for people and institutions can only be earned, not mandated.

rplat on June 15, 2012 at 3:36 PM

I’m just letting you know that I don’t lose any time arguing with people who have your type of ideas – like believing ethnicity is a factor on determining which individuals are more or less prone to abide to the law. That’s the type of person I rather not have any type of social interaction with.

joana on June 15, 2012 at 3:02 PM

You are that type of person, moron. I guarantee you know enough not to go into certain ethnic areas for fear of violent crime.

DFCtomm on June 15, 2012 at 3:33 PM

Classy. Name-calling. How old are you?

Nope. Crime rate might be a factor on my decision-making process, but not ethnicity.

joana on June 15, 2012 at 3:36 PM

Neil Munro, White House Correspondent: “I always go to the White House prepared with questions for our president. I timed the question believing the president was closing his remarks, because naturally I have no intention of interrupting the President of the United States. I know he rarely takes questions before walking away from the podium. When I asked the question as he finished his speech, he turned his back on the many reporters, and walked away while I and at least one other reporter asked questions.”

He doesn’t even have the balls to admit he’s a heckler. Pathetic.

lostmotherland on June 15, 2012 at 3:36 PM

How is that respecting the office if O is Prez? You make no sense.

lostmotherland on June 15, 2012 at 3:01 PM

He has slimed that office. He’s made it a joke. And you can take your f-ing respect and shove it.

Eren on June 15, 2012 at 3:36 PM

I’m just letting you know that I don’t lose any time arguing with people who have your type of ideas – like believing ethnicity is a factor on determining which individuals are more or less prone to abide to the law. That’s the type of person I rather not have any type of social interaction with.

joana on June 15, 2012 at 3:02 PM

Proximity to our borders shouldn’t be a factor either, but it is so. Visa overstays should be deported as well, but calling us a bunch of racists because we believe in the rule of law doesn’t cut it either.
Now, I’m figuring this is the only social interaction you get, anyway. Two minutes speaking with you in person would make me eat my own head.

CherryBombsBigBrownBeaver on June 15, 2012 at 3:37 PM

Classy. Name-calling.

joana on June 15, 2012 at 3:36 PM

You do that all the time, hypocrite.

Eren on June 15, 2012 at 3:37 PM

Here’s a question for all the immigrants of every country who came to America legally — studied for and passed the test, went through the whole process, according to USA laws.

How do you feel about Emperor Obama’s desperate pander for votes? Do you recognize it as a hard slap-in-the-face, which it is? How will you feel, when one of these people, who came here illegally, takes your job away from you? How do you feel about Obama, letting them have a free pass to the front of the line, after you had to stand in it and work your way to the front?

If I were you, I’d organize and raise hell! You did it the right way, and as an American citizen, I appreciate that. Thank you. Thank you for respecting the laws of our wonderful country.

Why should this illegal bunch be rewarded for breaking our laws? Is this want you want to happen in the country to which you lawfully immigrated?

If you’re as incensed as I am, then tell that narcissistic, lawless, boor in the Oval Office how you feel about it, will you? He’ll be the one wearing flip-flops and cut-offs, and sprawled out with his feet propped on the desk. If he’s not there, then check the golf course.

TheClearRiver on June 15, 2012 at 3:37 PM

If this doesn’t make people work until their hands have blisters and their feet have calluses for Romney – nothing will

Obama needs to be stopped period.

gophergirl on June 15, 2012 at 10:51 AM

gophergirl is right on target! Obama has shown us, once again, the contempt he has for our Constitution. So now the question is, what are we the Voters going to do about it.

We need to be working hard NOW to help Mitt Romney defeat President Obama.

In addition, we need to support candidates who will help Republicans increase their majority in the House and win a majority in the Senate.

We also need to clear State and Local governments of any politicians who support letting ILLEGAL aliens stay in our country.

Let’s start with the U.S. Senate.

Sen. Robert Menendez, D-New Jersey

“For all the young people who call this country their home but have been unable to fulfill their dreams, I am profoundly grateful to the President and the Administration for suspending the deportation of Dreamers.

Senator Robert Menendez – Democrat from New Jersey – showed in his comment above that he needs to be voted out of office. Senator Menendez’s poll numbers need to plummet TODAY.

Republican Joe Kyrillos won New Jersey’s Primary Election to challenge Senator Robert Menendez for his Senate seat

Here is Joe Kyrillos’ campaign website where you can learn more about him
http://joekyrillos.com/

What do you folks in New Jersey think of Republican Joe Kyrillos?

Next we all need to start asking every single candidate on the Federal, State and Local level if they agree with Obama’s new policy.

Any candidate who gives the wrong answer needs to be voted out of office!

Let’s roll! We’ve got a country to save!

wren on June 15, 2012 at 3:38 PM

after al you are the expert on the Hispanics voting patterns…

jimver on June 15, 2012 at 3:25 PM

Like she’s the “expert” on Muslim voting patterns?

Arab-Americans used to be one of the most reliable Republican constituencies till the Iraq war. Even more heavily Republican than Cuban-Americans or Evangelicals.

joana on June 14, 2012 at 8:38 PM

Source please? This article states that in a 2000 election Detroit News exit poll of 2000+ Muslims, 66% went for Gore and 30% went for Bush.

http://www.meforum.org/13/how-did-muslims-vote-in-2000

I know that Muslims and Arab-Americans are not fully congruent, but this is a Detroit News exit poll and Muslims in Detroit tend to be Arabs. I’d like to see some more data.

Missy on June 14, 2012 at 8:54 PM

Flora Duh on June 15, 2012 at 3:38 PM

957 comments and climbing. Some are even dealing with the issue at hand, which is that Obama has yet again pissed on the Constitution.

ConservativeLA on June 15, 2012 at 3:32 PM

Or at least he’s stepping all over it…..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KGlBHyVeYU

tencole on June 15, 2012 at 3:38 PM

“… This is NOT immunity”
What the H is it, then ??

pambi on June 15, 2012 at 3:38 PM

Right to work laws are passed on a state to state level. You do believe that individual state’s have economies don’t you? Wait, wait, don’t answer that, you don’t want confirm that you’re actually as buffoonish as that comment made you seem.
libfreeordie on June 15, 2012 at 12:39 PM

Um, YOU used the term “state economy” not “state’s economy”. That’s why I asked you to clarify what you meant. The Soviet Union was a “state” economy.

Buy Danish on June 15, 2012 at 3:38 PM

This smells like the act of a desperate man who was forced to play his cards too early, and if I needed another reason to despise Obama this would be it. He and his advisers don’t seem to be living in the real world or understand what’s left of the American spirit.

There are three bright sides:

I believe that this will backfire on him. He’s completely blown his cover with this, and this will only accelerate the “awakening,” possibly serving to create a landslide in November.

This will surely go to the Supremes. NY Rep. King is already challenging it. One of my fears was that after the Obamacare ruling, Breyer and Bader-Ginsburg would resign, giving Obama just enough time to ram through two more radical justices, but I think they will stick around for this one.

This will shake down congress and force everyone to come out for or against the ruling, a healthy process that will be sure to clarify the leanings in the Republican camp and alienate a large portion of Obama’s base.

Aardvark on June 15, 2012 at 3:39 PM

To libtrollordie: here’s a link to the Mao Ornament

TarheelBen on June 15, 2012 at 3:39 PM

If people want to see how popular this idea is, go onto Yahoo (yes, I know it’s liberal trash), and look at the poll on the front page.

74% are against this policy and 26% are for it. And 151,000 have voted.

Obama’s argument for why 18-24 year old illegals should remain has no merit. Once they reach that age, they should know what being in America illegally means. And, at that point they should be expected to know that they are committing a crime by staying here, even if they were ignorant of a crime being committed by their parents when they came here, illegally. Consequently, amnesty for young illegals has no merit. But hey, we are talking about a political party that doesn’t believe anyone should be personally accoutable for their actions. Ever. So, in their world, this makes perfect sense since clearly young illegal immigrants are really victims.

milcus on June 15, 2012 at 3:40 PM

The problem isn’t even with Hispanic voters.

This won’t widen Obama’s share of the Hispanic vote; it’ll just assure their expected turnout rate increases.

But this stuff is supported by a majority of Americans of all races. People who don’t want to provide a path to legal residence not even to those serving in the military that were brought here as kids may be prevalent in HotAir but are a tiny minority in the real world.

And it went from being a winning issue for us, via the Rubio bill, to a winning issue for him.

Even if he doesn’t gain much, he prevents us from turning immigration into an winning issue for us, as Rubio’s bill would have done.

joana on June 15, 2012 at 3:30 PM

What about the constitutionality of the matter, will it be an issue with the voters? Will they give O a pass because he is right on the merit, or will hold it against him that he acted unilaterallyunconstitutionally, in contempt of congress, etc…my concern is basically if this whole thing is boosting 0′s numbers overall, or not….i’m a pragmatic when it comes to that..

jimver on June 15, 2012 at 3:41 PM

Here’s a question for all the immigrants of every country who came to America legally — studied for and passed the test, went through the whole process, according to USA laws.

How do you feel about Emperor Obama’s desperate pander for votes? Do you recognize it as a hard slap-in-the-face, which it is? How will you feel, when one of these people, who came here illegally, takes your job away from you? How do you feel about Obama, letting them have a free pass to the front of the line, after you had to stand in it and work your way to the front?

If I were you, I’d organize and raise hell! You did it the right way, and as an American citizen, I appreciate that. Thank you. Thank you for respecting the laws of our wonderful country.

Why should this illegal bunch be rewarded for breaking our laws? Is this want you want to happen in the country to which you lawfully immigrated?

If you’re as incensed as I am, then tell that narcissistic, lawless, boor in the Oval Office how you feel about it, will you? He’ll be the one wearing flip-flops and cut-offs, and sprawled out with his feet propped on the desk. If he’s not there, then check the golf course.

TheClearRiver on June 15, 2012 at 3:37 PM

The problem is that it’s hard to be as angry as that at people that not only came here as babies and children – are you really going to blame a 5 months old for crossing the border – but that have grown up to serve in the military.

People like you are a tiny, tiny, minority. Regardless of their ethnicity and of how long they’ve been around.

joana on June 15, 2012 at 3:41 PM

To libtrollordie: here’s a link to the Mao Ornament

TarheelBen on June 15, 2012 at 3:39 PM

Facts mean nothing to trolls like joana and libtroll.

They are just here to watch America go bankrupt.

tetriskid on June 15, 2012 at 3:41 PM

This will shake down congress and force everyone to come out for or against the ruling, a healthy process that will be sure to clarify the leanings in the Republican camp and alienate a large portion of Obama’s base.

Aardvark on June 15, 2012 at 3:39 PM

You know, I had a feeling this was going to be an issue in this election, despite desperate attempts (by the GOP) to ignore it.

HB3 on June 15, 2012 at 3:41 PM

libfreeordie on June 15, 2012 at 3:12 PM

FFS. The oral sex joke was under two weeks ago. Quit trying to spin everything away. It was tacky and beneath the office.

kim roy on June 15, 2012 at 3:17 PM

The oral sex joke not only was tacky and beneath the office, it’s been widely misunderstood even as a joke.

O is not conveying information about his wife’s behavior with him. He’s reporting Ellen DeGeneres‘ complaint about his wife’s behavior toward her, ha ha. A degrading double dig at his own spouse. And knowing Ellen as one of their own, the LGBT Leadership Council audience got the joke immediately.

de rigueur on June 15, 2012 at 3:41 PM

I would hope this just moved at least 14 million votes into the Romney column.
What about American workers who are unemployed?

CherryBombsBigBrownBeaver on June 15, 2012 at 3:42 PM

But this stuff is supported by a majority of Americans of all races. People who don’t want to provide a path to legal residence not even to those serving in the military that were brought here as kids may be prevalent in HotAir but are a tiny minority in the real world.

And it went from being a winning issue for us, via the Rubio bill, to a winning issue for him.

joana on June 15, 2012 at 3:30 PM

You still don’t get it, do you? The President is proclaiming a law–whether favored by you, or Rubio, or 99.9% of likely voters in a poll is immaterial–and ordering its implementation. It is an illegal act, and a violation of his oath of office. It is the first baby step of a budding tyrant.

The political damage to him could be fatal if the Republicans push it to impeachment. While keeping up the full-bore economic criticism at the same time, of course.

spiritof61 on June 15, 2012 at 3:43 PM

What about the constitutionality of the matter, will it be an issue with the voters? Will they give O a pass because he is right on the merit, or will hold it against him that he acted unilaterallyunconstitutionally, in contempt of congress, etc…my concern is basically if this whole thing is boosting 0′s numbers overall, or not….i’m a pragmatic when it comes to that..

jimver on June 15, 2012 at 3:41 PM

Nobody cares. As a rule, voters don’t care about process issues. I mean, see how most people even here make this about immigration and not Separation of Powers. A few people in the right will raise that issue, like a few on the left used to do with Bush, but those voters are already locked up.

This isn’t the first unconstitutional EO Obama issued. Did all the others matter? Of course not, most people can’t point a single one.

joana on June 15, 2012 at 3:44 PM

I would hope this just moved at least 14 million votes into the Romney column.
What about American workers who are unemployed?

CherryBombsBigBrownBeaver on June 15, 2012 at 3:42 PM

That’s why this will backfire. As Breitbart.com says, this is OBAMA JOBS PROGRAM: HELP ILLEGALS COMPETE WITH AMERICANS FOR SCARCE JOBS

The Rogue Tomato on June 15, 2012 at 3:44 PM

Barack wants a war with Congress as a distraction from his failure as a leader. Frankly, I hope the GOP members of Congress don’t give it to him. Sue him, yes, just as Rep. King says he’ll do, but continue just pounding him on his record as a failure. The GOP ought to simply say that Barack has overstepped his Constitutional authority, again, that everyone knows he has done that, and that the courts will confirm that in due time. Laws are made by Congress, not by the president.

Rational Thought on June 15, 2012 at 3:45 PM

Please stop with the ‘impeachment’ nonsense.

Please.

Stay focused. Don’t blow it.

faraway on June 15, 2012 at 3:45 PM

I can’t believe President Jackass McDowngrade presents this as something to increase efficiency, to better use resources, etc. Has anyone looked at what this will do to Medicaid budgets? Will these new ______’s be eligible for food stamps and welfare and WIC and housing assistance and utility bill assistance and free cellphones? The savings in border enforcement is trivial compared to the body blow this represents to already shaky state budgets.

slickwillie2001 on June 15, 2012 at 3:45 PM

He doesn’t even have the balls to admit he’s a heckler. Pathetic.

lostmotherland on June 15, 2012 at 3:36 PM

The only one sans balls is Obama. A president with balls stays for Q & A.

Schadenfreude on June 15, 2012 at 3:46 PM

To libtrollordie: here’s a link to the Mao Ornament

TarheelBen on June 15, 2012 at 3:39 PM

LOL. I read that as: lib trol LORDIE !!!

pambi on June 15, 2012 at 3:46 PM

That’s why this will backfire. As Breitbart.com says, this is OBAMA JOBS PROGRAM: HELP ILLEGALS COMPETE WITH AMERICANS FOR SCARCE JOBS

The Rogue Tomato on June 15, 2012 at 3:44 PM

Duh.

Jobs aren’t for Americans.

Americans don’t even care about money and jobs /joana

tetriskid on June 15, 2012 at 3:46 PM

i watched the tape..barry is one angry guy.

wrt heckling…the lefties really like their authority figures to go unchallenged, don’t they?

http://dailycaller.com/2012/06/15/statements-from-the-daily-caller-regarding-exchange-in-white-house-rose-garden/

here’s the DC statements….hanging tough. And, btw, what about that Sam Donaldson heckler?

Part of the reason the lefties have to use the word heckle, is because 1. barry got so angry 2. barry got distracted from his message…ergo, right wing nut case heckler.

barry looked bad at the end…just repeatedly saying it was the right thing to do. This actually reveals the serious weakness of barry as CinC. he gets rattled way too often….some of this is because he was promoted to prezzy way too early, and part because of his personality

r keller on June 15, 2012 at 3:47 PM

You still don’t get it, do you? The President is proclaiming a law–whether favored by you, or Rubio, or 99.9% of likely voters in a poll is immaterial–and ordering its implementation. It is an illegal act, and a violation of his oath of office. It is the first baby step of a budding tyrant.

spiritof61 on June 15, 2012 at 3:43 PM

Yeah, I wrote that multiple times. You need to pay more attention to my posts:

My problem here is with the separation of powers.

I’m not going to lose time arguing with anyone who thinks that doesn’t matter or is a minor issue. To me it’s actually a much more important one than immigration reform.

joana on June 15, 2012 at 1:42 PM

I also reckon people who share my opinion are a tiny minority – this has happened multiple times under Obama, Bush and others and the very large majority of the population doesn’t care. So, it’s just naive to believe it’ll be different this time.

But as I said, good luck. You’re going to end disappointed, but I appreciate the enthusiasm.

joana on June 15, 2012 at 3:47 PM

Nope. Crime rate might be a factor on my decision-making process, but not ethnicity.

joana on June 15, 2012 at 3:36 PM

Hypocrite, and not even a very creative one.

DFCtomm on June 15, 2012 at 3:48 PM

Nobody cares. As a rule, voters don’t care about process issues. I mean, see how most people even here make this about immigration and not Separation of Powers. A few people in the right will raise that issue, like a few on the left used to do with Bush, but those voters are already locked up.

This isn’t the first unconstitutional EO Obama issued. Did all the others matter? Of course not, most people can’t point a single one.

joana on June 15, 2012 at 3:44 PM

There’s the liberal talking point. The process doesn’t matter, just the end result. The ends justifies the means. People aren’t as stupid as liberals think.

MobileVideoEngineer on June 15, 2012 at 3:48 PM

I’m not really sure what Obama gains in all of this except losing more white, working class voters. He was already going to win the Hispanic vote by a huge margin, identity politics and all.

What’s sad, is all the low info Hispanic voters are catholic and probably have no clue about the whole contraception poke in the eye at the catholic church. Sad.

1984 in real life on June 15, 2012 at 3:48 PM

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