Oh my: Romney and Obama now in a statistical tie — in Michigan

posted at 8:01 pm on June 14, 2012 by Allahpundit

That’s the good news. The better news? This isn’t the only poll lately to show a dead heat in Michigan. Ed flagged another poll last week that had the state 46/45 for Romney, i.e. within the margin of error, and noted that a writer from National Journal has heard from Republicans that their internal polling backs that up. At the moment, there’s every reason to believe this race really is that close. In Michigan.

Don’t they know that GM is alive and Bin Laden is dead?

Mitt Romney has caught President Obama in Michigan, according to a poll released Thursday.

Obama still holds a slight edge in the poll, 46.9 to 45.5, but that’s within the survey’s 2.3 percent margin of error. The poll was conducted by Michigan-based political consultants Foster, McCollum, White & Associates…

Obama once had a commanding lead over Romney in Michigan, up by double digits as recently as mid-May, according to the Real Clear Politics average of polls…

Michigan has swung reliably Democratic in recent years. Obama won it by 16 points in 2008, and Romney barely won the state’s Republican primary earlier this year.

Here’s the RCP average of Michigan. It’s true that Obama led by double digits last month — in a single poll, conducted by left-leaning PPP. But the three polls before that, dating from mid-March to mid-May, had O up by only seven points, four points, and five points, respectively. I think the Obama/Romney numbers started to tighten as the GOP primaries wore on and, once Mitt was officially crowned Not Obama, the holdouts started swinging over to his side and now we’ve got a dead heat. If Team Romney and the Super PACs don’t already have money earmarked for ads in this state in the fall, they’d better hop to it.

The most interesting data point from the crosstabs? Behold:

It’s not Walkermania bleeding over from Wisconsin that’s buoying Romney here, but maybe that’s a good thing. If he was riding a wave of anti-PEU voter enthusiasm, then his chances of taking the state might depend on that wave continuing to break all the way until November — which seems unlikely. But he’s not doing that; he’s competitive despite a lack of majority support for the Walker position. That seems more sustainable. (Or am I just rationalizing to avoid coping with the fact that this state might well be ours if there was more support for Walker’s position?)

Via Moe Lane, here’s Romney’s new ad hammering Obama for today’s thousandth iteration of his standard middle-class stump speech in Ohio.


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…dumb! Should not be tied!

KOOLAID2 on June 14, 2012 at 8:04 PM

Ask not for whom the Romney campaign bus honks – it honks for thee.

BHO Jonestown on June 14, 2012 at 8:04 PM

…I’ll be back in ten minutes!

KOOLAID2 on June 14, 2012 at 8:04 PM

Zero, tell us again about how great it was to give most of the car industry to the unions and screw over the bondholders and non-union workers. It doesn’t seem like Michigan agrees.

Philly on June 14, 2012 at 8:05 PM


OH YEAH, BABY!!! We’re going to give it to you!!!

I am seriously considering breaking my vow and going down to volunteer to work for Romney locally.

Awesome Freaking Ad!

PolAgnostic on June 14, 2012 at 8:06 PM

If Romney takes Michigan, then he will also take Ohio, Virginia, North Carolina, Wisconsin, Florida, New Hampshire and maybe even Pennsylvania. There would be no path to victory for Obummer in this scenario.

Corporal Tunnel on June 14, 2012 at 8:06 PM

Give it to him, LOL!

Punchenko on June 14, 2012 at 8:06 PM

Obama’s votes have VOLTED!

CherryBombsBigBrownBeaver on June 14, 2012 at 8:06 PM

Dearbornistan and Detroit to see lots of “voter” registrations.

SouthernGent on June 14, 2012 at 8:06 PM

Maybe Romney should talk about this….. F’in unions. Public sector & UAW & NLRB could all suck my @$$!!!

Heritage.org:

blog.heritage.org/2012/06/13/morning-bell-auto-bailout-was-really-just-a-uaw-bailout/

President Obama told the United Auto Workers (UAW) in February not to listen to critics of the auto bailout who said union members “made out like bandits—that saving the auto industry was just about paying back the unions.” “Really?” Obama said. “I mean, even by the standards of this town [Washington], that’s a load of you-know-what.”
New research from Heritage labor economist James Sherk proves that it was, in fact, a load of truth.
The Treasury Department estimates that taxpayers will lose $23 billion on the auto bailout. Sherk and co-author Todd Zywicki find that none of these losses came from saving jobs, but instead went to prop up the compensation of some of the most highly paid workers in America. They write:
We estimate that the Administration redistributed $26.5 billion more to the UAW than it would have received had it been treated as it usually would in bankruptcy proceedings. Taxpayers lost between $20 billion and $23 billion on the auto programs. Thus, the entire loss to the taxpayers from the auto bailout comes from the funds diverted to the UAW.
The Obama campaign is touting the bailout in Michigan this week, crowing about saved-or-created jobs. What the bailout actually saved was the UAW’s heavily padded compensation packages; what it created was a massive taxpayer loss.
The UAW was a significant factor in the automakers’ decline: It had raised Detroit’s labor costs 50 percent to 80 percent above other automakers, such as Toyota and Nissan. In 2006, General Motors paid its unionized workers $70.51 an hour in wages and benefits. Chrysler paid $75.86 an hour. Added to mistakes by management, these labor costs were a major reason the automakers went bankrupt.
However, through the bailout, the Obama Administration insulated the UAW from most of the sacrifices unions usually make in a bankruptcy—at taxpayer expense.
GM and Chrysler owed billions to a trust fund they had created to provide UAW members with gold-plated retiree health benefits. In bankruptcy, these funds should have been paid proportional to other unsecured creditors. Instead, while the Administration paid other creditors only a fraction of what they were owed, it gave the UAW trust fund assets worth tens of billions—including partial ownership of both companies. The U.S. Treasury should have received these assets.
Bankruptcy law also enables reorganizing companies to improve their post-bankruptcy situation by renegotiating union contracts to competitive rates.
If the UAW had been treated normally under bankruptcy law, the automakers’ average labor costs would have fallen to the same levels as the foreign-based carmakers, approximately $47 an hour. While this is still 40 percent higher compensation than the average manufacturing worker, it would have reduced UAW members’ standard of living. And the Administration wouldn’t allow that. So while the UAW accepted huge pay cuts for new hires, the Administration kept the pay structure of existing UAW members at GM intact.
Even Stephen Rattner, President Obama’s “car czar,” has admitted that “We should have asked the UAW to do a bit more. We did not ask any UAW member to take a cut in their pay.”
As a result, even after the reorganization, GM still has higher labor costs ($56 an hour) than any of its foreign-based competitors.
The average American worker—whose taxes paid for the bailout—earns $30.15 an hour in wages and benefits. Few Americans have the ability, as UAW workers do, to retire in their mid-50s before they can collect Social Security. Fewer still receive retirement health benefits in addition to Medicare, as UAW workers do. Yet their tax dollars went to subsidize UAW pay and benefits.
Had the government treated the UAW in the manner required by bankruptcy law, taxpayers would have broken even. The program would have amounted to bankruptcy financing instead of an outright bailout. The Administration could have kept the automakers running without losing a dime.
Instead, more than $26 billion went out the door and into the UAW’s pockets. Let’s put that in perspective: The amount of the subsidy given directly to the UAW was bigger than the budget of the entire State Department. It was bigger than all U.S. foreign aid spending. It was 50 percent more than NASA’s budget.
None of that money kept factories running. Instead, it sustained the above-average compensation of members of an influential union, sparing them from most of the sacrifices typically made in bankruptcy—a bankruptcy they contributed to. President Obama engaged in special interest spending at its worst.
The Administration did not bail out GM and Chrysler. It bailed out the United Auto Workers.

Danny on June 14, 2012 at 8:03 PM

Danny on June 14, 2012 at 8:08 PM

We need to let Obama destroy himself…just keep it tight and save it for the victory celebration.

tomas on June 14, 2012 at 8:08 PM

I still think it too early to get excited about . . . . . . . . give me poll numbers in September.

listens2glenn on June 14, 2012 at 8:08 PM

Remember that we need a 4-5 percentage point edge in these states. ACORN & Co. are still there, waiting for their moment.

How they howled in rage when the Walker recall totals came in.

spiritof61 on June 14, 2012 at 8:08 PM

The preference cascade begins.

novaculus on June 14, 2012 at 8:09 PM

Another bloody good ad

Go mitt go

cmsinaz on June 14, 2012 at 8:09 PM

…dumb! Should not be tied!

KOOLAID2 on June 14, 2012 at 8:04 PM

Indeed. I don’t understand how Romney isn’t leading 65-35 in every state…

That said, if the consensus this past spring was around Obama+5 in the state, then polling even is very likely now. It hasn’t been a good couple of months for Zero. A couple of months of bad economic numbers, Clinton trolling the Pres, and Barky declaring that the private sector is fine should be worth about 4 points.

Forget what PPP says. Michigan is in play. Snyder isn’t hugely popular there, but they remember Granholm too. The state isn’t about to go Dem by double digits again.

Gingotts on June 14, 2012 at 8:09 PM

LOL @ the new ad. Clinton is the gift that keeps on giving

1984 in real life on June 14, 2012 at 8:10 PM

If Romney takes Michigan, then he will also take Ohio, Virginia, North Carolina, Wisconsin, Florida, New Hampshire and maybe even Pennsylvania. There would be no path to victory for Obummer in this scenario.

Corporal Tunnel on June 14, 2012 at 8:06 PM

And Iowa, and probably Colorado and Nevada too.

Missy on June 14, 2012 at 8:10 PM

Demographic breakdown

(Solid Democrat): 31.69%
(Leaning Democrat): 10.36%

(Independent): 25.58%

(Solid Republican): 16.75%
(Leaning Republican): 8.89%
(Tea Party Republican): 6.68%

A 42% Dem to 31% Rep weighing and still only at 1 point matgin for Barry. Good News?

bayview on June 14, 2012 at 8:11 PM

Remember that we need a 4-5 percentage point edge in these states. ACORN & Co. are still there, waiting for their moment.

2 points is fraud-proof. Thinking ACORN et al could flip a 4-5 point lead is delusional.

Bat Chain Puller on June 14, 2012 at 8:13 PM

I love it when they use his own words against him.

aunursa on June 14, 2012 at 8:14 PM

If Romney takes Michigan, then he will also take Ohio, Virginia, North Carolina, Wisconsin, Florida, New Hampshire and maybe even Pennsylvania. There would be no path to victory for Obummer in this scenario.

Corporal Tunnel on June 14, 2012 at 8:06 PM

What are you talking about? What does Michigan have to do with all those other states?

SoulGlo on June 14, 2012 at 8:14 PM

McCain would have taken 10 days to respond to Obama’s nonsense. Good to see Romney jumping on it.

sherry on June 14, 2012 at 8:14 PM

..sorry, AP, gots to go to a USAF/CAP meeting tonight. Won’t be back in time for the festivities so here’s my QOTD tune suggestion in keeping with this post:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsaTElBljOE

Howdy to Bmore, 4Grace, O.C., cmsinaz, gg, ALT, especially Schade, AnotherJoe, and the rest of the crew!

Persevere!

The War Planner on June 14, 2012 at 8:15 PM

And Iowa, and probably Colorado and Nevada too.

Missy on June 14, 2012 at 8:10 PM

Indeed. These were never typical swing states until recently and I took that for granted. :-)

Corporal Tunnel on June 14, 2012 at 8:15 PM

Uh oh, time for Obama to make another speech.

The Rogue Tomato on June 14, 2012 at 8:15 PM

What are you talking about? What does Michigan have to do with all those other states?

SoulGlo on June 14, 2012 at 8:14 PM

I base it off the composition of the electorate in those states relative to Michigan.

Corporal Tunnel on June 14, 2012 at 8:17 PM

Dearbornistan and Detroit to see lots of “voter” registrations.

SouthernGent on June 14, 2012 at 8:06 PM

I doubt it, their all on Little Bambi’s “Kill List” in Call of Drone 3, Modern Whiner.

1984 in real life on June 14, 2012 at 8:18 PM

What are you talking about? What does Michigan have to do with all those other states?

SoulGlo on June 14, 2012 at 8:14 PM

Because Obama won Michigan by 16 points and all of the other states by fewer than 16 points – in most of them he only won by single digits. So if we are looking at an even race in Michigan that means he has lost enough support to lose the rest outright.

Missy on June 14, 2012 at 8:18 PM

Obama’s votes have VOLTED!

CherryBombsBigBrownBeaver on June 14, 2012 at 8:06 PM

LOL.
MissAgain voters are charged up.

bettycooper on June 14, 2012 at 8:20 PM

Only Obama could make me like Bill Clinton.

The Rogue Tomato on June 14, 2012 at 8:20 PM

One of the best ads yet. That’s fine. Give him some more.

de rigueur on June 14, 2012 at 8:21 PM

Only Obama could make me like Bill Clinton.

The Rogue Tomato on June 14, 2012 at 8:20 PM

Truer words were never spoken.

Corporal Tunnel on June 14, 2012 at 8:21 PM

Ddrintintin , pragmatic, and the like are tearing up. Anyone have a few Kleenex©?

CW on June 14, 2012 at 8:24 PM

What are you talking about? What does Michigan have to do with all those other states?

SoulGlo on June 14, 2012 at 8:14 PM

Huff much?

/

CW on June 14, 2012 at 8:25 PM

McCain needed Palin to make things tight with Team 0, and they gave up on Michigan within weeks.

Romney is tied, in the beginning of the summer.

The turnaround 0 needs is now becoming all about having a Romney death card to play, and after two primaries, I think we would have learned it from one of the other GOP’ers.

I said at the time, Newt did Mitt a massive favor by making Bain an issue so early on. It looks like that’s being proven true.

Because if Michigan doesn’t give an F about “vulture capitalism”, no swing state will.

George Romney still has good credit.

budfox on June 14, 2012 at 8:25 PM

Only Obama could make me like Bill Clinton.

The Rogue Tomato on June 14, 2012 at 8:20 PM

Truer words were never spoken.

Corporal Tunnel on June 14, 2012 at 8:21 PM

Yeah. Remember that presser where Barry split and let Bill take the reins. As Allah wrote, for fifteen minutes it was like having a real President again.

Missy on June 14, 2012 at 8:26 PM

KEEP KICKING HIS ASS ROMNEY!!!!!!

Man, it’s really good to have a candidate that wants to win. By God, he is cutting commercials with this moron’s own words in fricking real-time right now!!

The Count on June 14, 2012 at 8:26 PM

Stay cool war planner :)

cmsinaz on June 14, 2012 at 8:26 PM

Good ad. I’d love to see more of them on television. I know it’s early, but so what.

Philly on June 14, 2012 at 8:27 PM

Yeah. Remember that presser where Barry split and let Bill take the reins. As Allah wrote, for fifteen minutes it was like having a real President again.

Missy on June 14, 2012 at 8:26 PM

Exactly. I wish that would happen a few more times. The contrast is striking.

The Rogue Tomato on June 14, 2012 at 8:28 PM

The recent turn of events remind me of Jim Carrey’s line in Liar Liar …………..

“For gods sake Obama, what are you doing?”

“I’m kicking my own ass.”

fogw on June 14, 2012 at 8:31 PM

I said at the time, Newt did Mitt a massive favor by making Bain an issue so early on. It looks like that’s being proven true.

Forcing Mitt to defend himself against Newt sharpened Mitt’s game and defanged the eventual Dem attacks on Bain.

All the while everyone whined that Newt was handing ammo to the opposition.

Sarah Palin is no dummy.

Missy on June 14, 2012 at 8:32 PM

Sock it to me.

faraway on June 14, 2012 at 8:33 PM

Outside the Middle East, Michigan has the 2nd largest population of Arabic Muslims in the world(France is 1st). Romney needs to let them know that a vote for Obama is a vote for gay marriage.

Wigglesworth on June 14, 2012 at 8:35 PM

KEEP KICKING HIS ASS ROMNEY!!!!!!

Man, it’s really good to have a candidate that wants to win. By God, he is cutting commercials with this moron’s own words in fricking real-time right now!!

The Count on June 14, 2012 at 8:26 PM

Amazing that McCain has a military background and chose not to fight.

IR-MN on June 14, 2012 at 8:36 PM

I think it’s entirely possible for Obama to lose in MI and/or WI but still win in VA and CO. Things will be different this time around.

forest on June 14, 2012 at 8:37 PM

Democrats are distancing themselves from Obama. Independent voters are breaking to Romney in large numbers. I think we are going to see a lot of Democrats simply staying home on election day. 2008 saw Obama bring out a lot of voters who hadn’t voted before, particularly among the young. The reporting I am seeing these days says these young voters feel hoodwinked and many are saying they aren’t voting this time.

So I would also throw away those extraordinary turnout numbers in 2008 and look for something more closely resembling previous Presidential elections.

crosspatch on June 14, 2012 at 8:37 PM

Outside the Middle East, Michigan has the 2nd largest population of Arabic Muslims in the world(France is 1st). Romney needs to let them know that a vote for Obama is a vote for gay marriage.

Wigglesworth on June 14, 2012 at 8:35 PM

Arab-Americans used to be one of the most reliable Republican constituencies till the Iraq war. Even more heavily Republican than Cuban-Americans or Evangelicals.

joana on June 14, 2012 at 8:38 PM

I’m giving Eeyore Allah a run for his $………

One egg = 1 chicken
two eggs = 2 chickens
three eggs =

Limerick on June 14, 2012 at 8:38 PM

Half the population has left Detroit so the margin of cheating is way down meaning there will be a couple hundred thousand less stuffed ballots.
Stabenow is also up for re-election, one can only dream…

Goodale on June 14, 2012 at 8:38 PM

Detroit will stay firmly in the Victimhood Party.

Limerick on June 14, 2012 at 8:40 PM

Nationwide the Dems cast about 2 million phony absentee ballots in a Presidential election, call it 2% But in Detroit about 30% of the votes are fake, so yeah, it will take about a 5% lead to win Michigan

halfbaked on June 14, 2012 at 8:41 PM

This may signal the absolute start of fundamental change in the electorate… that will then soon affect other states. It is the Reagan Democrat becoming conservative, permanently. Maybe not…

anotherJoe on June 14, 2012 at 8:42 PM

Hardcore Pawn will be busy buying up old Obama trinkets.

faraway on June 14, 2012 at 8:42 PM

Remember that we need a 4-5 percentage point edge in these states. ACORN & Co. are still there, waiting for their moment.

2 points is fraud-proof. Thinking ACORN et al could flip a 4-5 point lead is delusional.

Bat Chain Puller on June 14, 2012 at 8:13 PM

Yes, they can’t flip two points but the smaller margins (within polling margins of error) will have them actually “find” tens of thousands of Detroit/Dearborn ballots on election night and claim an unknown quantity were intimidated, etc. If it’s a close loss they will scream racism and rally the troops for the next election. With an unequivocal 4 pts they can only grind their teeth.

That said, 49%-47% should be lawyer proof and get Mitt the state.

spiritof61 on June 14, 2012 at 8:42 PM

Kick his arse sideways, Mitt!

JohnGalt23 on June 14, 2012 at 8:42 PM

Zero, tell us again about how great it was to give most of the car industry to the unions and screw over the bondholders and non-union workers. It doesn’t seem like Michigan agrees.

Philly on June 14, 2012 at 8:05 PM

Not to forget all the dealers that got the shaft. In small towns across the country, some of them are still vacant lots.

slickwillie2001 on June 14, 2012 at 8:42 PM

It is the Reagan Democrat becoming conservative, permanently. Maybe not…

anotherJoe on June 14, 2012 at 8:42 PM

Gotta love an informed WeebleWooble. Nothing is forever.

Limerick on June 14, 2012 at 8:44 PM

Ask not for whom the Romney campaign bus honks – it honks for thee.

BHO Jonestown on June 14, 2012 at 8:04 PM

Hahaha, now that’s good.

MobileVideoEngineer on June 14, 2012 at 8:44 PM

Only Obama could make me like Bill Clinton.

The Rogue Tomato on June 14, 2012 at 8:20 PM

And if it weren’t for the debauchery, I’d actually miss him. Oh hell, even with the debauchery, I miss him, compared to Nobama.

TxAnn56 on June 14, 2012 at 8:44 PM

Arab-Americans used to be one of the most reliable Republican constituencies till the Iraq war. Even more heavily Republican than Cuban-Americans or Evangelicals.

joana on June 14, 2012 at 8:38 PM

They tend to go into small business when they come here. They don’t like taxes any more than you or I do.

JohnGalt23 on June 14, 2012 at 8:45 PM

I think Michigan might go to Obama by a slim margin, but just the fact that Obama might have to spend money on AD time there is a huge win!

Brace yourself for learning everything possible about the Mormon religion during September and October. The mainstream media is going to be all over that.

If the Obama’s visit Broadway again, expect them to go see the Book of Mormon.

The sooner Mitt picks a VP the better, I hope it’s Jindal.

joncoltonis on June 14, 2012 at 8:46 PM

Poor brayam

CW on June 14, 2012 at 8:47 PM

Slickwillie, that is so true. I live in a small town where 2 successful dealerships got hosed. That was a blow to the town’s economy.

Maybe Mitt should remember them in some upcoming ads. He could interview the dealers and parts suppliers about how they lost their businesses and lives’ work when Obama gave their industry away. Zero is so fond of doing those pack-of-lies ads about Bain. Mitt could hit back with his own about the bailout fallout.

Philly on June 14, 2012 at 8:47 PM

Didn’t Obama force GM into bankruptcy June 2009?

faraway on June 14, 2012 at 8:47 PM

I’ll be back in ten minutes!

KOOLAID2 on June 14, 2012 at 8:04 PM

Thread winner. Maybe of 2012.

Right Mover on June 14, 2012 at 8:48 PM

joncoltonis on June 14, 2012 at 8:46 PM

I doubt they will include the roll-up-your-sleeves part.

Limerick on June 14, 2012 at 8:48 PM

Man, those bright young lads at the Romney campaign clearly take turn-around time very seriously.

JohnGalt23 on June 14, 2012 at 8:48 PM

Detroit will stay firmly in the Victimhood Party.

Limerick on June 14, 2012 at 8:40 PM

Well, can you blame them? It has worked so well for the last 60 years.

The Rogue Tomato on June 14, 2012 at 8:49 PM

Arab-Americans used to be one of the most reliable Republican constituencies till the Iraq war. Even more heavily Republican than Cuban-Americans or Evangelicals.

joana on June 14, 2012 at 8:38 PM

I haven’t seen a poll done on American Muslims in quite some time, but they overwhelmingly voted for Obama in 2008. His approval rating was something like 80% which was higher than any other religious group. I’m sure it has gone down somewhat like his poll numbers in general have over the last few years, but the gay marriage thing could be huge.

Wigglesworth on June 14, 2012 at 8:49 PM

Landslide.

Tim_CA on June 14, 2012 at 8:50 PM

If Romney takes Michigan, then he will also take Ohio, Virginia, North Carolina, Wisconsin, Florida, New Hampshire and maybe even Pennsylvania. There would be no path to victory for Obummer in this scenario.

Corporal Tunnel on June 14, 2012 at 8:06 PM

And Iowa, and probably Colorado and Nevada too.

Missy on June 14, 2012 at 8:10 PM

What are you talking about? What does Michigan have to do with all those other states?

SoulGlo on June 14, 2012 at 8:14 PM

To be perfectly blunt, I don’t know why Obama is wasting his time in Ohio, he’s not going to win Ohio. Notice that he went to Columbus once and got heckled and booed and ever since he’s stayed in the Cleveland. I hate to break it to Obama, but people are fleeing the Cleveland area. My home county (Union) and the county just east of it (Delaware) have both grown by over 25% in the last 10 years and those 2 counties are conservative strongholds.

MobileVideoEngineer on June 14, 2012 at 8:51 PM

but the gay marriage thing could be huge.

Wigglesworth on June 14, 2012 at 8:49 PM

Out: Bradley Effect

In: ObamaBoy Effect

faraway on June 14, 2012 at 8:52 PM

The recent turn of events remind me of Jim Carrey’s line in Liar Liar …………..

“For gods sake Obama, what are you doing?”

“I’m kicking my own ass.”

fogw on June 14, 2012 at 8:31 PM

…that’s the truth!

I’ll be back in ten minutes!

KOOLAID2 on June 14, 2012 at 8:04 PM
Thread winner. Maybe of 2012.

Right Mover on June 14, 2012 at 8:48 PM

…but I lied!

KOOLAID2 on June 14, 2012 at 8:53 PM

Obama is going to be forced to defend in states he thought he didn’t have to. Why do you think he’s attending every fund raiser he can. They know they are in trouble, and will probably put a lemonade stand in front of the white house to get every penny possible.

Meanwhile, romney and the pac’s are cruising to the dollars.

rubberneck on June 14, 2012 at 8:53 PM

Arab-Americans used to be one of the most reliable Republican constituencies till the Iraq war. Even more heavily Republican than Cuban-Americans or Evangelicals.

joana on June 14, 2012 at 8:38 PM

Source please? This article states that in a 2000 election Detroit News exit poll of 2000+ Muslims, 66% went for Gore and 30% went for Bush.

http://www.meforum.org/13/how-did-muslims-vote-in-2000

I know that Muslims and Arab-Americans are not fully congruent, but this is a Detroit News exit poll and Muslims in Detroit tend to be Arabs. I’d like to see some more data.

Missy on June 14, 2012 at 8:54 PM

Like Carville said………keep punching your opponent in the face with your fists

And I’d like to add…….kick his bahooky all the way back to Chicago!!!!!!

That was Carville wasn’t it? :-))

PappyD61 on June 14, 2012 at 8:56 PM

Amazing that McCain has a military background and chose not to fight.

IR-MN on June 14, 2012 at 8:36 PM

Considering who was advising him, it is a wonder he did as well as he did.

novaculus on June 14, 2012 at 8:57 PM

Clearly Obama needs to fly to MI to give another Major Speech.
STAT.

Sir Napsalot on June 14, 2012 at 8:58 PM

I’m still not big on polls but I’ve looked at about a dozen electoral maps and the Dems dark blue is gradually disappearing from the middles of the maps–even NYT and WaPo maps. Amazing. Fewer solid Obama states, more toss-ups, more leaning Romney, a few maps even have Romney over 270.

145 days and counting to election night.

stukinIL4now on June 14, 2012 at 8:58 PM

…Romney barely won the state’s Republican primary earlier this year.

Think about that. That’s not because he was too conservative for Michigan voters. Maybe the squishy RINO label won’t be that big of a liability in November, at least in some of the too-close-to-call swing states.

Knott Buyinit on June 14, 2012 at 9:00 PM

Yeah. Remember that presser where Barry split and let Bill take the reins. As Allah wrote, for fifteen minutes it was like having a real President again.

Missy on June 14, 2012 at 8:26 PM

Exactly. I wish that would happen a few more times. The contrast is striking.

The Rogue Tomato on June 14, 2012 at 8:28 PM

no lol, True statements but think how sick it is that we have sunk so low that Clinton seems like a leader. Barry showed how venal but low class and inept he was from day “I won.” :(

arnold ziffel on June 14, 2012 at 9:01 PM

Obama is going to be forced to defend in states he thought he didn’t have to. Why do you think he’s attending every fund raiser he can. They know they are in trouble, and will probably put a lemonade stand in front of the white house to get every penny possible.

Meanwhile, romney and the pac’s are cruising to the dollars.

rubberneck on June 14, 2012 at 8:53 PM

Not Doubt about it. Romney donors smell the blood in the water and those in the middle trying to buy influence either way that are holding out will switch their dollars to Romney because they want to back the eventual winner. That’s how these horse races are won.

Corporal Tunnel on June 14, 2012 at 9:13 PM

It is early … with about 140 days to the day of decision. But it is comforting to see that Romney is managing (so far) a juggernaught of a campaign. And with the new lubrication of the internet the MSN (Manipulated Stories Machine) will not be able to ‘FIX’ things as they did in 2008. The truth will out.
The debates will be interesting. Romney will likely crush King Putt in all subjects large and small. And if I hear any crap about this might cause a ‘sympathy vote’ … I and many of you will laugh so hard we’ll wet ourselves.
If President Downgrade loses the three challenge states of Florida, Virgina, and Ohio … along with Michigan. Prezie Choombro will have lost the election before the Sun sets on the Mississipi. And if that happens, Harry ‘The Body’ Reid will become a minority leader. I intend to dream big in this regard.

Missilengr on June 14, 2012 at 9:15 PM

This ship in my opinion is just now starting to take on water. With only a few months to go, nothing short of big miracle is going make this guy look good. He’s a disaster. The rats have been jumping ship more and more lately . As time runs out it’s going to get worse. Keep your eyes on all the people in this far left administration, nobody knows what there capable of.

newportmike on June 14, 2012 at 9:18 PM

All this damned optimism is making me very nervous.

I can’t believe we’re seeing Team Obama’s A-game.

But…

Team Mittens A-game is looking pretty good.

So when’s the choke?

Bruno Strozek on June 14, 2012 at 9:25 PM

Obama’s campaign strategy is inadequate to maintain him in a serious action such as Mitt Romney and the Tea Party will put to him. He has corruption in the coop, hate on the hoof, taqiyya on the tongue and bats in the belfry — that’s his campaign strategy. He can probably maintain himself in the type of fighting Mitt Romney and the Tea Party will give him in Mexifornia and a few states on the North East front. After that it will make no difference how many thousands of dead he has voting for him early and often, and if Americans want America and the Presidency back in 2012, Mitt Romney and the Tea Party will give it to them.

VorDaj on June 14, 2012 at 9:33 PM

I think the gay marriage issue is going to resonate negatively for Zero in immigrant cultures. Yet another indication of how clueless Zero and Co. are about their campaign.

Philly on June 14, 2012 at 9:41 PM

-GM alive? So was Frankenstein’s monster.

-GM alive? No, it’s just undead.

Take your pick

njcommuter on June 14, 2012 at 9:45 PM

Dearbornistan and Detroit to see lots of “voter” registrations.

SouthernGent on June 14, 2012 at 8:06 PM

do you realize that John (comrade) Dingell lost Dearborn in 2010? I’ve been saying for a while that MI is winnable.

8 weight on June 14, 2012 at 9:48 PM

Outside the Middle East, Michigan has the 2nd largest population of Arabic Muslims in the world(France is 1st). Romney needs to let them know that a vote for Obama is a vote for gay marriage.

Wigglesworth on June 14, 2012 at 8:35 PM

Arab-Americans used to be one of the most reliable Republican constituencies till the Iraq war. Even more heavily Republican than Cuban-Americans or Evangelicals.

joana on June 14, 2012 at 8:38 PM

And it makes sense…am sure some of them still vote republican…And something tells me that they won’t get out of their way to vote for America’s first gay president in NOv :)…..if anything, they will probably sit it out……

jimver on June 14, 2012 at 9:51 PM

Arab-Americans used to be one of the most reliable Republican constituencies till the Iraq war. Even more heavily Republican than Cuban-Americans or Evangelicals.

joana on June 14, 2012 at 8:38 PM

It has nothing to do with the Iraq war. They’ve come under the Dem entitlement umbrella of free breakfast & lunches at school, cell phones etc.

8 weight on June 14, 2012 at 9:54 PM

Farage’s Barrage: Another One Bites The Dust

http://predicthistunpredictpast.blogspot.com/2012/06/farages-barrage-another-one-bites-dust.html

M2RB: Queen, live at Wembley

Resist We Much on June 14, 2012 at 10:06 PM

Isn’t Michigan one of Romney’s “home” states ??
He should win it along with NH & MA. Dumb Obama calls 2 very blue states home (IL & HI) and can’t get any of that leverage.

KenInIL on June 14, 2012 at 10:28 PM

I still think it too early to get excited about . . . . . . . . give me poll numbers in September.

listens2glenn on June 14, 2012 at 8:08 PM

I’m excited. I think I recall the numbers in 1980 and Reagan was never sitting as comfortably this far out. Romney would have to implode. Obama is no “comeback kid” in fact the more shrill he gets the more ridiculous he becomes.

Marcus on June 14, 2012 at 10:44 PM

In the 2000 Michigan primary they had a non-partisan ballot, democrats were encouraged to vote for McCain and they did, McCain took the state.

In 2008 the republicans wised up and required that a voter ask for either a democrat or republican ballot, no matter wehat marching orders they receive, few Dems can stand to ask a pole taker for a Republican ballot, Romney beat McCain in 2008

This year the Unions were calling everyone urging them to vote for Santorum…it didn’t work, Romney won again.

Here’s the real lesson of Wisconsin; The Union bosses still control the money, but they lost the power to deliver the votes 20 years ago. Once politician realize that it becomes possible to depoliticize the Unions

halfbaked on June 14, 2012 at 10:47 PM

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