NYC board of health: Hey, maybe we should extend this soda ban to other foods

posted at 4:16 pm on June 13, 2012 by Allahpundit

Like I said a few weeks ago, this was always the goal of the otherwise dumb soda regs. A restriction on portion sizes makes no sense when it’s limited to one kind of beverage and a select few types of vendors except as a way to inure the public to more draconian regulations down the line. Ban big sodas now, let people get used to it, and then if/when the city’s obesity rate dips — for whatever reason(s) — flog the hell out of those statistics as proof that dietary nannyism works and should be pursued more aggressively. No surprise, then, that the city health board might be thinking about bold new frontiers in keeping you from stuffing your face.

What is surprising is that they’re doing it so soon. This strategy depends on going very slowly at first so that initial worries about a slippery slope will ease. Instead, sounds like they’re ready to turn this into a slippery water slide. Bad move:

“The popcorn isn’t a whole lot better than the soda,” said Bruce Vladeck, a senior adviser at Nexera Consulting and one of the mayor’s appointees to the 11-member board.

The board yesterday agreed to put Bloomberg’s big-soda ban up for a public hearing July 24, but also talked about the merits of limiting other high-calorie treats.

A large tub of movie-theater popcorn has up to 1,650 calories.

“There are certainly milkshakes and milk-coffee beverages that have monstrous amounts of calories . . . and I’m not so sure what the rationale is not to include those,” said member Dr. Joel Forman, a pediatrics professor at Mount Sinai.

The rationale for skipping milkshakes — for now — is, I guess, that there’s some nutritional benefit to milk-based drinks whereas soda is pure crapola. But of course, it’s not the milk that’s doing the heavy caloric lifting in the average latte syrup bomb, it’s the sugar. Why not drop a portion-size restriction on Starbucks too and let customers supplement their lost milk with a cup out of the carton at home? (Why not just ban the sugar and syrup altogether?) Answer: Because the well-educated diet-minded liberals who sneer at soda consumption kind of enjoy their morning mochaccinos, and if the state starts coming after that now, then Bloomberg might have a real backlash on his hands. Paternalism’s for the rubes, not for the overclass.

The good news is that even in deep blue NYC, 51 percent oppose the soda ban. The bad news is that the future looks grim. Note the spread among age groups when New Yorkers were asked whether they support the ban or not:

Some of that may be due to older residents having grown up drinking soda as a staple whereas younger adults had more options at the supermarket, but that doesn’t explain all of it. As you’re about to see, there’s a similar spread on the broader question of whether “government should be getting involved in people’s eating and drinking habits to fight obesity”:

You’ve got a clear majority overall in support for that one overall despite strong opposition from seniors (libertarian grandmas!), which makes me wonder if part of the reason New Yorkers don’t like the soda ban is because it doesn’t go far enough. In any case, the fact that young adults are more gung-ho than other groups for this sort of meddling cretinism proves how effective the left’s messengers can be when they seize on some new health problem and hammer and hammer and hammer at it. New Yorkers have been listening to Bloomberg and his liberal allies in the media whine about obesity for years; go figure that kids who grew up here listening to it would start to bend because of it. Bear all of this in mind when the Supreme Court’s ruling on ObamaCare drops in a week or two, as we’ll be hearing again about how paranoid those wingnuts are to worry about Congress passing some sort of “broccoli mandate.”


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My goodness – Schumer told the truth. That’s happened what once, twice in the past 10 years.

gophergirl on May 3, 2013 at 12:03 PM

As designed. In a few years, these same folks will be shrieking that we have to “fix” it with a national VAT, taxing 401ks, etc. It never ends.

JeremiahJohnson on May 3, 2013 at 12:03 PM

PARTIALLY?!?!?!
Gawd how i despise these lying idiot con-artists.

dentarthurdent on May 3, 2013 at 12:03 PM

My goodness – Schumer told the truth. That’s happened what once, twice in the past 10 years.

gophergirl on May 3, 2013 at 12:03 PM

He was probably temporarily mesmerized by that shiny, shiny camera lens…

trigon on May 3, 2013 at 12:08 PM

I hate Liberals with a burning passion.

Charlemagne on May 3, 2013 at 12:08 PM

My renewal last December in Maryland, which already controls coverages and prices (like the ObamaCare future for everyone) went up 34% at my company. My broker has alerted me already that I should expect that or worse this coming December.

MTF on May 3, 2013 at 12:08 PM

stupid is as stupid does. This clown fits right in with the rest of the circus in DC.

RedInMD on May 3, 2013 at 12:09 PM

SCHUMER: Our insurance department is in power to protect families.

What’s that ??

Jabberwock on May 3, 2013 at 12:13 PM

Those countries have higher tax rates, but you seem to be confusing causation and correlation.
 
bayam on March 27, 2013 at 10:17 PM

rogerb on May 3, 2013 at 12:13 PM

Instead of repealing it, they’re going to keep it and push forward with it.

Where are our trolls to defend that?

Liam on May 3, 2013 at 12:14 PM

The only thing about Obamacare that makes me smile is that, for the very first time, liberals are actually going to pay out of their own wallets.

I hope they sleep like babies: Up all night and crying.

Liam on May 3, 2013 at 12:19 PM

B@stards… lying b@stards…

Khun Joe on May 3, 2013 at 12:23 PM

As Rush always puts it, “Chuck U Schumer.”

Drained Brain on May 3, 2013 at 12:28 PM

Yeah, no frackin’ shiite Schumer! Off topic, does Chuck Schumer look like the Grinch, or is it just me? Also off topic, isn’t his name off by one letter…Chuck Schemer seems more appropriate…

Battlecruiser-operational on May 3, 2013 at 12:28 PM

Partially?

Putz.

coldwarrior on May 3, 2013 at 12:30 PM

Don’t be fooled for a minute. A Dem never does anything except by stealth and the goal was always single payer. This debacle is deliberate because it is unenforceable. The Dems know this and knew this when they shoved it down our throats through a parliamentary trick. Single payer is the goal and at this rate it is heading straight for that.

neyney on May 3, 2013 at 12:32 PM

Battlecruiser-operational on May 3, 2013 at 12:28 PM

Well, Schumer is the Americanized version of the old Yiddish Schmutz.

coldwarrior on May 3, 2013 at 12:32 PM

Quite possibly, the individual I most despise in
the U.S. Senate.

ToddPA on May 3, 2013 at 12:34 PM

This is not rocket science.

\
Sadly, with the current public education system this may as well be rocket science.

hopeful on May 3, 2013 at 12:37 PM

Schumer is a greasy, sniveling, filthy Communist.

There is nothing that these filthy pigs don’t want:

They want our guns.

They want our money.

They want our very life [healthcare] decisions.

They want our children.

They want total control.

OhEssYouCowboys on May 3, 2013 at 12:37 PM

Yeah, no frackin’ shiite Schumer! Off topic, does Chuck Schumer look like the Grinch, or is it just me? Also off topic, isn’t his name off by one letter…Chuck Schemer seems more appropriate…
Battlecruiser-operational on May 3, 2013 at 12:28 PM

He looks like an Imp straight out of the pits of hell.

jawkneemusic on May 3, 2013 at 12:37 PM

As Rush always puts it, “Chuck U Schumer.”

Drained Brain on May 3, 2013 at 12:28 PM

Rush is much more demure than I.

Resist We Much on May 3, 2013 at 12:38 PM

Quite possibly, the individual I most despise in
the U.S. Senate.

ToddPA on May 3, 2013 at 12:34 PM

Sad, isn’t it, that there so many from which to choose? I have a hard time deciding the Top Five of which to despise the most. Right now, and subject to change, is McCain.

Liam on May 3, 2013 at 12:38 PM

Rush is much more demure than I.

Resist We Much on May 3, 2013 at 12:38 PM

Yes, you have that particuwar knack of hurting tender wiberwal feewings. ~S~

Happy Friday, Esquire!

Liam on May 3, 2013 at 12:40 PM

Quite possibly, the individual I most despise in
the U.S. Senate.

ToddPA on May 3, 2013 at 12:34 PM

Way, way up there on the list of execrable Senators, but Harry Reid is in a class of his own.

The Democrats do have a regular rogues gallery in DC: Dick Durbin, Patty Murray, Bernie Sanders, Claire McCaskill and Fauxcohantas herself. All incredible hacks.

Throat Wobbler Mangrove on May 3, 2013 at 12:41 PM

The next pile to come out of the democrat’s mouths will be, “Hey, it’s patriotic to pay more for insurance premiums!”

Sterling Holobyte on May 3, 2013 at 12:43 PM

The next pile to come out of the democrat’s mouths will be, “Hey, it’s patriotic to pay more for insurance premiums!”

Sterling Holobyte on May 3, 2013 at 12:43 PM

Please

stop

giving

them

new

ideas!

:-)

Liam on May 3, 2013 at 12:45 PM

Health Care 2.0
–bayam

tom daschle concerned on May 3, 2013 at 12:49 PM

bayam?
sesqui?
anyone?

Chuck Schick on May 3, 2013 at 12:51 PM

bayam?
sesqui?
anyone?

Chuck Schick on May 3, 2013 at 12:51 PM

Like the trolls are going to touch this one…

Liam on May 3, 2013 at 12:51 PM

and Fauxcohantas herself

the University of Houston recently sent out a pledge drive newsletter that highlited her not only as double graduate but also former instructor there, even had the anecdote about her being blocked in an appointment but “getting the last laugh against conservatives” by being elected as senator…killed any incentive I had to participate. blech

DanMan on May 3, 2013 at 12:53 PM

Geez, what a day!

First, I hear this Human parasite actually be truthful,
then, I read where Lindsey Lohan has fired her attorney
and entered rehab!

I really looked up to her, s/c

ToddPA on May 3, 2013 at 12:54 PM

“I have a hard time deciding the Top Five of which to despise the most.”

For me it’s generally whichever one I heard speak last.

tommyboy on May 3, 2013 at 1:05 PM

Like the trolls are going to touch this one…
Liam on May 3, 2013 at 12:51 PM

When you turn on the light the roaches scatter….

tommyboy on May 3, 2013 at 1:06 PM

“I have a hard time deciding the Top Five of which to despise the most.”

For me it’s generally whichever one I heard speak last.

tommyboy on May 3, 2013 at 1:05 PM

That’s about how I do it. Either that, or a dart board.

Liam on May 3, 2013 at 1:19 PM

Don’t worry azzhat. Your “seperate but equal” healtcare for you and every offspring your brood mare produced won’t go up and they’ll have it for life.

Your “seperate but equal” pension plan for you and your family will also not go up and still exists unlike the trash you foisted on us and looted and replaced with worthless IOUs.

Screw you and your ruling elite ilk.

acyl72 on May 3, 2013 at 1:23 PM

That’s about how I do it. Either that, or a dart board.

Liam on May 3, 2013 at 1:19 PM

I measure the amount of grease that pools at their feet, after 1 minute at the podium.

OhEssYouCowboys on May 3, 2013 at 1:29 PM

I measure the amount of grease that pools at their feet, after 1 minute at the podium.

OhEssYouCowboys on May 3, 2013 at 1:29 PM

Are you sure it’s grease and not something else?

Liam on May 3, 2013 at 1:31 PM

Are you sure it’s grease and not something else?

Liam on May 3, 2013 at 1:31 PM

I’m afraid to ask, so I won’t.

But I’m laughing.

OhEssYouCowboys on May 3, 2013 at 1:35 PM

This is one of those Forward! moments.

tommer74 on May 3, 2013 at 1:39 PM

Obama: Premiums Will Decrease 3000% So You Should Get A Raise

munseym on May 3, 2013 at 12:41 PM

Dr.s Ben & Ilene Dover have corroborated this story line.

belad on May 3, 2013 at 1:55 PM

Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) on Friday walked back his remarks

Somebody got a thug call from the White House…

The Rogue Tomato on May 3, 2013 at 2:26 PM

Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) on Friday walked back his remarks that the Affordable Care Act could “in part” contribute to insurance premiums going “through the roof” — comments that Republicans have pounced on.

“The rise in healthcare premiums is market-driven and predates Obamacare,” Schumer said in a statement provided exclusively to TPM. “The fact is, the law is already working to significantly slow that rise, and ensure a higher quality of care to boot.”

EGGSACTLY what happened in the Soviet Union.

The only thing that is missing is the show trial.

I’m sure that they will come, when the Unmade Bed takes the 2016 election, and Marxism becomes the norm.

OhEssYouCowboys on May 3, 2013 at 2:27 PM

Schumer said in a statement provided exclusively to TPM. “The fact is, the law is already working to significantly slow that rise, and ensure a higher quality of care to boot.”

He just fell on his “walk-back”

ACA was supposed to LOWER the actual rate. Not slow the rise.

FAILURE !

Jabberwock on May 3, 2013 at 2:29 PM

At United Health Care, there is a massive project underway just to try to enact some level of compliance with upcoming Obamacare regs – it isn’t just the cost involved in implementation, but the cost of simply comprehending the bill that is already sucking millions of dollars out of companies.

Professor_Chaos on May 3, 2013 at 2:37 PM

ACA was supposed to LOWER the actual rate. Not slow the rise.

FAILURE !

Jabberwock on May 3, 2013 at 2:29 PM

By 3000%.

BobMbx on May 3, 2013 at 2:49 PM

Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) on Friday walked back his remarks

Somebody got a thug call from the White House…

The Rogue Tomato on May 3, 2013 at 2:26 PM

Schumer probably got a call from his messaging guru who told him what to really say.

bflat879 on May 3, 2013 at 2:54 PM

At United Health Care, there is a massive project underway just to try to enact some level of compliance with upcoming Obamacare regs – it isn’t just the cost involved in implementation, but the cost of simply comprehending the bill that is already sucking millions of dollars out of companies.

Professor_Chaos on May 3, 2013 at 2:37 PM

One of the few growth areas in the REB-economy are Obamacare-compliance consultants.

slickwillie2001 on May 3, 2013 at 2:57 PM

Professor_Chaos on May 3, 2013 at 2:37 PM

Its worse than that. They support the AARP healthcare project – and AARP is very pro- Obamacare.

I think UHC has sided with the govt. Look out if your employer uses them.

Zomcon JEM on May 3, 2013 at 3:30 PM

Yeah, every now and then they let down their verbal guard and the truth slips out, like Harry Reid referring to the recently defeated Senate gun bill as ‘anti-gun legislation.’

Sen. Ted Cruz called it a Freudian slip. It was a Fluke-up. Like Schumer Schumer’s.

Schumer.

de rigueur on May 3, 2013 at 4:31 PM

“It’s in part because of Obamacare, but healthcare costs have been going up in double digits for years and years.”

“That is not what he meant. The rise in healthcare premiums is market-driven and predates Obamacare. The fact is, the law is already working to significantly slow that rise, and ensure a higher quality of care to boot.”

Axe on May 3, 2013 at 6:53 PM

Health Care 2.0
–bayam

tom daschle concerned on May 3, 2013 at 12:49 PM

Health Care 1.0 – “Die Hard”

Health Care 2.0 – “Die Harder”

:)

Shoot for 3?

Axe on May 3, 2013 at 6:57 PM

“The rise in healthcare premiums is market-driven and predates Obamacare,” Schumer said in a statement provided exclusively to TPM. “The fact is, the law is already working to significantly slow that rise, and ensure a higher quality of care to boot.”

(Emphasis mine.)

“If we had not have done this horrible thing, it would have been worse. It’s really, really bad now, but it would have been infinitely worse otherwise.”

Yet another unprovable, unquantifiable statement. You can claim this about anything while doing an incredibly sucky job.

Theophile on May 3, 2013 at 9:51 PM