Congress calls out the EPA

posted at 7:01 pm on June 10, 2012 by Jazz Shaw

One group in Congress which doesn’t get nearly enough attention in the media is the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology and, in particular, the Subcommittee on Energy and Environment. Their chairman, Andy Harris (R-MD) sent a letter to the EPA this week which was probably long overdue. In it, he calls on EPA chair Lisa Jackson to explain what he identifies as a very disturbing pattern of behavior when it comes to natural gas drilling and the agency’s somewhat “casual” approach to science.

Subcommittee on Energy and Environment Chairman Andy Harris (R-MD) today sent a letter to Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) Administrator Lisa Jackson requesting information and documents related to the Agency’s activities with respect to hydraulic fracturing.

The letter outlines concerns over “EPA’s confusing and questionable approach to hydraulic fracturing,” summarizing three highly publicized instances in which the EPA leapt to scientific conclusions before having all the facts, only to later retract or revise its claims.

“These examples, while individually very troubling, collectively suggest EPA is not objectively pursuing an improved understanding of the relationship between hydraulic fracturing and drinking water,” Chairman Harris says in the letter. Instead, Harris asserts that EPA “is determined to find fault with the technology in order to justify sweeping new regulations.”

While the Chairman outlines some very specific instances where the EPA has been caught blatantly politicizing their mission, making up facts to suit their agenda and then having to recant on their “findings,” this letter takes a much needed additional step. Simply getting Lisa Jackson and company to retract individual mistakes doesn’t really address the larger problem. What Harris seems to be bringing to light is a repeating pattern and fundamental problems with the agency’s core processes.

One would think that if you are charged with a mission involving a scientific approach to environmental management, you would start with a question such as, “what are the impacts of the proposed process?” You would then gather facts and evidence and allow those findings to lead you to the best course of action, assuming any action is required at all. Under Jackson, it certainly appears that the EPA is starting with a question of, “How can we justify creating new regulations to restrict private activity?” and then finding the “facts” which best fit their needs.

That’s not science. It’s a political agenda in action. You can read the full text of the Chairman’s letter here.


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Burn it to the ground.

tom daschle concerned on June 10, 2012 at 7:03 PM

We don’t need no stinking facts!

tim c on June 10, 2012 at 7:05 PM

C ya Lisa in 6 mos.!

hillsoftx on June 10, 2012 at 7:08 PM

yes to the ground..just what we need a bloated Government directing our every move/s
Im so sick of the progressive gov

MrMoe on June 10, 2012 at 7:08 PM

ELIMINATE the EPA. The Employment Prevention Agency.

The Energy Prevention Agency.

The EVERYTHING PREVENTION AGENCY.

wildcat72 on June 10, 2012 at 7:09 PM

ABOLISH THE EPA.

And in the words of Nathaniel Grigsby’s epitaph upon his tombstone:

Through this inscription I wish to enter my
dying protest against what is called the Democratic party. I have
watched it closely since the days of Jackson and know that all the
misfortunes of our nation have come to it through this so called party.
Therefore, beware of this party of treason.

Rixon on June 10, 2012 at 7:10 PM

Reign in the epa yes abolish it no

gerrym51 on June 10, 2012 at 7:12 PM

Reign in the epa yes abolish it no

gerrym51 on June 10, 2012 at 7:12 PM

Why do we need a federal EPA, when state environmental laws are all that is needed. especially given the formers history of overreach and ludditism?

Rixon on June 10, 2012 at 7:15 PM

Environmentalists Preventing Activity

Elitist Progressive Agenda

Ending Proud America

banzaibob on June 10, 2012 at 7:15 PM

What a load of crap sandwich.

One head chatting with another.

Yeah, that’ll ‘get things done.’

Idiocy gone amok.

jersey taxpayer on June 10, 2012 at 7:18 PM

saw Lisa Jackson Tulane address on CSPAN earlier, was pretty bad for a grad speech.

But Michelle Obama’s at NC A&T a couple weeks ago was propaganda with “progress” “forward” and the ‘it’s racist out there just not as bad as before’. No sense of irony from whence they speaketh.

John Kettlewell on June 10, 2012 at 7:18 PM

Fire the ideological weasels and hire actual scientists who understand that reproducing results is required before regulations are enacted.

Protecting the environment is necessary since unrestrained business showed itself to be happily willing to poison and pollute to the point of raw offal, heavy metals and other toxins reaching our water courses, and even a famous river catching on fire, before rational controls were enforced.

But the EPA has become a preposterous preserve of partisan pimps and needs a helluva housecleaning.

profitsbeard on June 10, 2012 at 7:19 PM

Under Jackson, it certainly appears that the EPA is starting with a question of, “How can we justify creating new regulations to restrict private activity?” and then finding the “facts” which best fit their needs.

Yup. This is what the EPA and warmists do. For the warmists, they find the “facts,” then use their dyed in the wool ally, the liberal media, to unquestionably trumpet their “findings.”
“It doesn’t matter what is true, it only matters what people believe is true.” -Paul Watson, Greenpeace Founder
“We came up with the idea that.. the threat of global warming.. would fit the bill…[we] believe humanity requires a.. common adversary in order to realize world government. It does not matter if this common enemy is a real one or…one invented for the purpose.” -Club of Rome
“Isn’t the only hope for this planet the total collapse of industrial civilisation? Is it not our responsibility to ensure that this collapse happens?” -Maurice Strong, ex UNEP Director

anotherJoe on June 10, 2012 at 7:20 PM

Rixon on June 10, 2012 at 7:15 PM

Simple. Some can’t quite get over their previous faux-pas. Oddly enough, on a different spectrum, I find it difficult, also; though, on an entirely different spectrum.

jersey taxpayer on June 10, 2012 at 7:21 PM

“Facts”?

LOL!

That is precious.

KMC1 on June 10, 2012 at 7:21 PM

What this tells me is, we need to keep up pressure on otherwise squishy Republicans until the EPA, Dept of Energy, and Dept of Eductation are all burned to the ground.

While I’m at it, Fannie and Freddie need to be neutered as well so that they are no longer presumed Democrat job shops.

Keep the pressure up folks, it’s the only way Republicans will act in the interests of conservatives.

Wanderlust on June 10, 2012 at 7:22 PM

Lisa Jackson’s response to the House committee: “Change is hard, just ask the private sector, and my president”

Rovin on June 10, 2012 at 7:23 PM

“That’s not science. It’s a political agenda in action.”

Cut… Off… The… Funding…!!!

Seven Percent Solution on June 10, 2012 at 7:24 PM

So what is our coward republican congress going to do? Send another strongly worded letter to obama? These commie libtards are walking all over these silk suited retards. Stop the bull crap speeches and DO something. Bunch of pansy girly men, giving away the country.

frizzbee on June 10, 2012 at 7:31 PM

That’s the ticket! Send them a strongly worded letter! That’s worked so well in the past.

Oldnuke on June 10, 2012 at 7:32 PM

Shut it down, drop their employees over Cuba (parachutes optional) and put a light bulb factory where it used to be.

viking01 on June 10, 2012 at 7:35 PM

What’s REALLY long past due is pulling the plug on the EPA. These Commies are destroying the American economy with malice. How many billions do we pour into this agency each year so it can go about harassing, intimidating and bankrupting the American people?

EPA destroys farming in Major American Breadbasket

SHUT IT DOWN NOW !!

Axion on June 10, 2012 at 7:36 PM

Why do we need a federal EPA, when state environmental laws are all that is needed. especially given the formers history of overreach and ludditism?

Rixon on June 10, 2012 at 7:15 PM

We don’t need a federal EPA anymore than we need a BLM run by the federal feral government.

Rio Linda Refugee on June 10, 2012 at 7:38 PM

Burn it to the ground.

tom daschle concerned on June 10, 2012 at 7:03 PM

Thread winner in the first post!

Happy Nomad on June 10, 2012 at 7:38 PM

Defund the EPA and fire every tree-hugging one of them!

GarandFan on June 10, 2012 at 7:39 PM

So what is our coward republican congress going to do? Send another strongly worded letter to obama?

frizzbee on June 10, 2012 at 7:31 PM

Like it our not, the jug-eared Kenyan presides over a co-equal branch of government. Congress does not provide oversight. Letters are a good first step. De-funding the bastards is a better choice.

Happy Nomad on June 10, 2012 at 7:41 PM

The EPA has been nothing more than a political weapon since the 90′s.

ButterflyDragon on June 10, 2012 at 7:54 PM

Subcommittee on Energy and Environment Chairman Andy Harris (R-MD) today sent a letter to Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) Administrator Lisa Jackson requesting information and documents related to the Agency’s activities with respect to hydraulic fracturing.

….ok!…grade school kids can send letters!…now what?
Who needs letter writer’s?

KOOLAID2 on June 10, 2012 at 7:54 PM

Lisa Jackson’s response to the House committee: “Change is hard, just ask the private sector, and my president” math is hard, science is harder and research is hardest of all. So cut me some slack

Rovin on June 10, 2012 at 7:23 PM

FIFY

chemman on June 10, 2012 at 7:55 PM

Jazz; great post. I read through the letter and it appears that the EPA has been, at a minimum, violating its own standards on peer-review and issuing edicts without gathering objective data regarding hydraulic fracturings effects (or lack thereof) upon drinking water.

It seems that Rep Harris has had enough of this run around and this is exactly the oversight that Congress should be providing. They should be demanding answers, forcing the EPA to play by their own rulebook, and, in the absence of answers, provide a clear road back to credibility for the EPA. The 3 examples provided regarding fracturing and no effects upon drinking water despite the EPA intervening are quite clear examples that the administration may be operating out of its own bounds.

great post-thank you.

ted c on June 10, 2012 at 7:57 PM

Was it sheila jackson that thought we went to mars, or something other than the moon? I can’t remember which bright star of the black caucus it was. You know we can get rid of the white republicans who have overstayed their time, but the black caucus goes on forever.

Bambi on June 10, 2012 at 7:58 PM

I have friends who worked at EPA in previous Administrations, and one that lobbies on envitronmental issues. They tell me this EPA is chock-full of far-left environmental activists and political hacks. They have been caught outright fabricating scientific reports, stacking advisory councils with like-minded Greenpeace crazies, and burying both science and policy analysis that conflicts with their hard-left agenda. Natural gas and coal are not the only industries they are trying to shut down.

There are probably more “true-believing” progressives at EPA than at any other agency.

rockmom on June 10, 2012 at 7:59 PM

ELIMINATE the EPA.

The Employment Prevention Agency.

The Energy Prevention Agency.

The EVERYTHING PREVENTION AGENCY.

wildcat72 on June 10, 2012 at 7:09 PM

.
I can’t top that. You nailed it.

ABOLISH THE EPA !

listens2glenn on June 10, 2012 at 7:59 PM

Simply getting Lisa Jackson and company to retract individual mistakes doesn’t really address the larger problem.

That’s the thing. Liberals build an infrastructure capable of, at a minimum, shutting you down for a period of time–just for a review–as a means to get not only you, but also others, to think twice about conducting these operations. If they can get you to think again before starting, then they can halt several procedures even before the conceptual phase begins. When data emerges to support that they were incorrect in the first place, they can merely quietly retract the ban and file a sly lil’ “woopsie daisy” and the damage remains…..

ted c on June 10, 2012 at 8:02 PM

I can’t top that. You nailed it.

ABOLISH THE EPA !

listens2glenn on June 10, 2012 at 7:59 PM

I’ll try – how about
Evil Progressive Azzholes

VegasRick on June 10, 2012 at 8:04 PM

EPA = Evil Political A*******

ABOLISH THE EPA, or ship the entire agency to Afghanistan and Iran (one-way trip) and use it as the most destructive weapon in the world to completely obliterate our enemies and make them miserable.

(A***** Second meaning: Means of exit for donkey feces.)

landlines on June 10, 2012 at 8:04 PM

I’m really looking forward to January 2013 because Obama and his administration have made it so easy for Romney to look good it’s a pleasure to watch. When I think of all the economy things Obama and company are restricting and realize that, under a Romney EPA, there are going to be many more yes’s, I can see the economy turning around in his first year.

I think Mitt Romney should say, “Thank you President Obama for making my first year in office so easy.”

bflat879 on June 10, 2012 at 8:08 PM

Eliminate the EPA and about 15 other unaccountable agencies employing anti American, anti business, anti capitalism progressives who do very little and create nothing but damage and obstacles for real Americans who create jobs, wealth, goods and services We The People want and need.

ConcealedKerry on June 10, 2012 at 8:09 PM

ted c on June 10, 2012 at 7:57 PM

Hey, thanks!

Jazz Shaw on June 10, 2012 at 8:10 PM

I’m not saying the EPA is out of control but I farted and they sent me a fine for CO2 and methane emissions.

Slade73 on June 10, 2012 at 8:13 PM

They have far too much power. Time for real change.

CW on June 10, 2012 at 8:17 PM

I would support legislation that would allow hydraulic fracturing enterprises to sue the EPA as a means to recoup lost revenue, research costs, and punitive damages. Unless the EPA has some skin in this game, they have no incentive to engage in objectivity and will continue to regulate by fiat. Being wrong does have to carry a price.

ted c on June 10, 2012 at 8:17 PM

Their chairman, Andy Harris (R-MD)

Love Tea Party Conservative Andy.

He is a freshman from the District where I live. I love he is in the right side of almost every issue.

We need a whole lot more like him. A whole lot less like Drewhurst go Cruz.

It is people like Andy that just might save this country.

Steveangell on June 10, 2012 at 8:17 PM

I have friends who worked at EPA in previous Administrations, and one that lobbies on envitronmental issues. They tell me this EPA is chock-full of far-left environmental activists and political hacks. They have been caught outright fabricating scientific reports, stacking advisory councils with like-minded Greenpeace crazies, and burying both science and policy analysis that conflicts with their hard-left agenda. Natural gas and coal are not the only industries they are trying to shut down.

There are probably more “true-believing” progressives at EPA than at any other agency.

rockmom on June 10, 2012 at 7:59 PM

Why it needs to be abolished.

Replace it with another agency with limited enforcement rights only on Air and water and require any new regulations be sent to Congress for approval.

Eliminate all regulations starting in 2006.

Steveangell on June 10, 2012 at 8:20 PM

Get the letter published in the WSJ and USA Today, the first to appeal to the business/investor class and the latter to inform the general public.

onlineanalyst on June 10, 2012 at 8:22 PM

Andy Harris is my eye congressman, great guy. he’s also a physician, son of immigrants, and no nonsense. also very tall, articulate, and clean-cut.

williampeck1958 on June 10, 2012 at 8:22 PM

Congress approved Obunglercare.

So much for suggesting congressional approval for EPA regulations….

viking01 on June 10, 2012 at 8:36 PM

Jazz –

The method is Fracing. Using Fracking these days indicates what side of the coin you flip to.

Skim this white paper. Search “frac”

ericdijon on June 10, 2012 at 8:40 PM

These fools tell their members that EPA regulations are “bedrock.” Not arbitrary, willy-nilly, seat-of-pants or vindictive.
Meme-tastic.

bettycooper on June 10, 2012 at 8:40 PM

The only thing that will stop these out of control jerks is cut their money off now.No funds no out of control EPA simple as that.

logman1 on June 10, 2012 at 8:42 PM

Before anyone jumps me, I was referring to the Tags: fracking

ericdijon on June 10, 2012 at 8:43 PM

ericdijon on June 10, 2012 at 8:40 PM

Even if I agreed with you (which I don’t) please respond by pasting in the spot where the word “fracking” (or “fracing”) appears anywhere in this article.

Thanks.

Jazz Shaw on June 10, 2012 at 8:45 PM

I agree; get rid of the EPA. Then, we can also get rid of the TSA and the Dept. of Education. None of these agencies has done what they were supposed to do and have made life more difficult for countless people.

HSmith on June 10, 2012 at 8:55 PM

Burn it to the ground.

tom daschle concerned on June 10, 2012 at 7:03 PM

Indeed. Then bury the ashes in concrete at Yucca Mountain.

viking01 on June 10, 2012 at 9:01 PM

http://www.usa.gov/directory/federal/index.shtml
The EPA is in this listing and so are a bunch of agencies I’ll bet you never heard of; keep a sense of humor and try reading this listing out loud without laughing, I haven’t been able to do it yet.

mixplix on June 10, 2012 at 9:02 PM

The EPA abandoned the scientific approach to regulating the environment many years ago. Environmental zealots have infiltrated the agency and have been ratcheting regulations to meet their political agenda rather than creating regulations and limits that are based purely on science. When you have a world view that humans are a virus that is infecting the planet, it becomes clear that the real goal of the EPA is to rid the world of this threat. This agency needs to be abolished at the Federal level.

NuclearPhysicist on June 10, 2012 at 9:05 PM

This agency is made up of lunatic leftists. Science comes a distant third to political motive and graft. Now they are armed and dangerous. When exactly did Congress authorize that? They engage in search and seizure without warrants. When did Congress authorize that?

pat on June 10, 2012 at 9:09 PM

The EPA needs to get a court order before it regulates a lot of things.

This is a classic separation of powers issue. You have the legislature setting EPA standards. The Executive acting on that regulation. And then you need the court system to moderate executive action.

So for example, if the EPA wants to classify someone’s backyard as a wetland, file suit against the person in question to get it done.

What is causing the problem here is that the EPA seems to be able to act without any court oversight. That’s not how it’s supposed to work.

If the EPA had to get count approval for everything the same way the police do it likely keep them focused on incidents of ACTUAL abuse rather then just anyone vulnerable to their crap.

Karmashock on June 10, 2012 at 9:30 PM

EPA bureaucrats = environmental Zealots

Dasher on June 10, 2012 at 9:31 PM

Karmashock on June 10, 2012 at 9:30 PM

Not when you get a lot of left leaning judges on the courts. The judges are just as bad as the EPA themselves, for the same goal and cut from the same sheet of paper.

watertown on June 10, 2012 at 9:54 PM

http://www.ammoland.com/2012/05/31/armed-epa-agents-visit-ashville-nc-man/#axzz1xRh0RCFa

Burn it to the ground.

tom daschle concerned on June 10, 2012 at 7:03 PM

Yes.

davidk on June 10, 2012 at 9:57 PM

I’m not saying the EPA is out of control but I farted and they sent me a fine for CO2 and methane emissions.

Slade73 on June 10, 2012 at 8:13 PM

As they should. I smelled that one here in Illinois.

davidk on June 10, 2012 at 10:01 PM

That’s the thing. Liberals build an infrastructure capable of, at a minimum, shutting you down for a period of time–just for a review–as a means to get not only you, but also others, to think twice about conducting these operations. If they can get you to think again before starting, then they can halt several procedures even before the conceptual phase begins. When data emerges to support that they were incorrect in the first place, they can merely quietly retract the ban and file a sly lil’ “woopsie daisy” and the damage remains…..

ted c on June 10, 2012 at 8:02 PM

Yep.

Just high tech ways of saying, “Nice business you got there. Be a shame something should happen to it.”

davidk on June 10, 2012 at 10:04 PM

http://www.ammoland.com/2012/05/31/armed-epa-agents-visit-ashville-nc-man/#axzz1xRh0RCFa

Burn it to the ground.

tom daschle concerned on June 10, 2012 at 7:03 PM

Yes.

davidk on June 10, 2012 at 9:57 PM

Unbelievable. This nation is completely screwed, unless radical steps are taken to dismantle and defang these alphabet agencies.

tom daschle concerned on June 10, 2012 at 10:14 PM

just wanted to post this from david k’s link above. Shocking** The guy that sent the email should’ve been more careful with words, but…..dude?

North Carolina –(Ammoland.com)- Sometimes a small incident says volumes about a large government agency. In this case the Environmental Protection Agency.

Around 1.45 PM on May 23, Ashville, North Carolina resident Larry Keller was in the midst of an international call which he had to cut short in order to answer his front door. He found two armed agents of the EPA who were accompanied by an Ashville Police officer.

According to a May 24 news story in the Ashville Tribune, a weekly newspaper to which I am a contributing columnist, the agents had blocked his and his neighbor’s driveways with their cars. They had driven all the way from Raleigh to confront him.

What had he done? The unannounced visit had been occasioned by news that Dr. Al Armendariz, a regional EPA administrator whose 2010 lecture had been videotaped and been released by the office of Sen. James Inhofe (R-OK) on April 25th. In the lecture, Dr. Amendariz had said that the agency’s “general philosophy” was to “crucify” oil and gas producers.

He compared the agency’s “philosophy of enforcement” to the way, as a Wall Street Journal editorial reported, “Romans used to conquer little villages in the Mediterranean. “They’d go into a little Turkish town somewhere, they’d find the first five guys they saw and they would crucify them, And then you know that town was really easy to manage for the next few years. The point is to ‘make examples’ of alleged lawbreakers.”

The case in point had been Range Resources, a driller who had been exonerated of charges of water pollution as the result of fracking. As the Wall Street Journal noted, the reference to executions “raise(d) questions not only about” not only Dr. Arnendariz’s comments “but the EPA’s larger impartiality and judgment.”

Keller, who describes himself as “a bit of a political activist” had emailed the EPA Director of External Affairs, Dr. David Gray, saying “Hello Mr. Gray. Do you have Mr. Armendariz’s contact information so we can say hello?

That was enough to dispatch two armed agents to his front door. He was told by one agent that “…my choice of words in the email could be interpreted in many ways.”

Read more at Ammoland.com: http://www.ammoland.com/2012/05/31/armed-epa-agents-visit-ashville-nc-man/#ixzz1xRodQd9w

IMO, dude shouldn’t have used the “so we can say hello” phraseology, but, dude….

ted c on June 10, 2012 at 10:30 PM

Dick Nixon was a complicated man. Many things he did while in office were for the good of the country.

Watergate was a massive blunder on the part of his staff and the coverup was Nixon’s massive blunder.

But without a doubt, the most far-ranging impact his presidency has had on America was foisting the never-to-be-sufficiently damned EnvironMENTAL Protection Agency on us.

The sooner we abolish that agency overflowing with anti-business anti-capitalist thugs, the better off we’ll all be.

CatchAll on June 10, 2012 at 11:08 PM

Burn it to the ground.

tom daschle concerned on June 10, 2012 at 7:03 PM

As it goes up in flames, assess a fine of $10,000.00 for every minute there is an excess emission of carbon into the atmosphere.

Once the fire is extinguished, name the area a super fund site and hold the EPA managers liable for the clean-up. If they didn’t start the fire, tough, it’s on property they are responsible for, so they can pay up.

Make sure that any hope they have of a fair hearing in a court of law is dashed to the ground by faceless, unaccountable bureaucrats.

Just to send a message, you know. Kind of like how the Romans used to crucify random guys in Turkey.

Lily on June 10, 2012 at 11:37 PM

A Nixonian cancer that needs immediate removal.

AshleyTKing on June 10, 2012 at 11:48 PM

I would support legislation that would allow hydraulic fracturing enterprises to sue the EPA as a means to recoup lost revenue, research costs, and punitive damages

Great idea. Then the taxpayers can pay for the damages the EPA causes as well as their operating costs. It’s never THEIR money they’re risking with their bad decisions, you see, it’s OURS. They would still have no “skin in the game”.

Socratease on June 10, 2012 at 11:57 PM


arrest her when she appears on any of the zillion violations of the constitution.

and replace her with Rush so the whole outfit will be shutdown by the next day.

huntingmoose on June 10, 2012 at 11:59 PM

Congress calls out the EPA

THIS IS LONG OVERDUE !!

Americans have come to realize that the EPA is a rogue agency.
The EPA has an agenda that is that is controlled by zealots. The EPA is bent on destroying America’s economy and culture by systematically destroying America’s means of production. By taking direct aim at America’s energy production and supply, the EPA undermines America’s capitalistic economic system.

The EPA seems happily engaged into turning America into some Third Level nation, with a heinously over-regulated, subsistence, government dependent economy.

BigSven on June 11, 2012 at 4:46 AM

Science!?! The EPA has never had more than a nodding acquaintance with science. Since 2008 the EPA has been crossing the street when it sees science coming.

curved space on June 11, 2012 at 5:48 AM

Fire the ideological weasels and hire actual scientists who understand that reproducing results is required before regulations are enacted.

Protecting the environment is necessary since unrestrained business showed itself to be happily willing to poison and pollute to the point of raw offal, heavy metals and other toxins reaching our water courses, and even a famous river catching on fire, before rational controls were enforced.

But the EPA has become a preposterous preserve of partisan pimps and needs a helluva housecleaning.

profitsbeard on June 10, 2012 at 7:19 PM

This. People calling for the outright abolishment of the EPA seem to have forgotten (or weren’t affected by) such industry abuses as Love Canal, The Cuyahoga River, etc. My father was a water chemist, and can give you a list a mile long of all the nonsense industry used to get away with prior to the 1970′s and the EPA/environmental movement. Therefore, a need does exist for such an agency.

Unfortunately, for us, the one we got now is not it. As before, it has been taken over and corrupted by political partisans and hacks, with all the real scientists either having been either silenced or forced out. How to fix it though is anyone’s guess, as I don’t see how any real or meaningful change could ever be carried out in the hyper-partisan atmosphere that exists in Washington today.

JFS61 on June 11, 2012 at 6:22 AM

Defund and abolish the EPA.

Sell its offices space and goods at auction.

Let the States know that they are responsible for the environment in their borders and that they can form cross-border agreements with other States to help work on larger issues so long as they do not step on powers granted to the federal government. Even with those the federal government can act as a mediator and let the States take the lead on figuring out issues. No State must join such an agreement and there are no reprisals for not doing so: it is done for common cause for the people in the many States.

That is how a federalist system with sovereign power grants works: those with the ability to grant the power retain the power that isn’t granted. Which means the States and the people under a republican form of government in these United States.

The EPA must go. And so must a number of other agencies that have no sovereign basis and harm the interests of the States and the people without their direct oversight. Let us garner some monies back in its demise, and be thankful that this most harmful of line items ceases to exist as what Congress can make it can un-make. And if ever there were a Nixonian organization it is the EPA. When it isn’t GNMA, that is.

ajacksonian on June 11, 2012 at 7:30 AM

assuming any action is required at all.

Here’s the problem. When you create a government agency whose job is to “protect” or “regulate” something, they will always act. They will always act, because, if they don’t, their raison d’etre goes away. And, they will eventually become a tyranny. Not sure why our unenlightened founding fathers understood this 223 years ago, but ‘we’ don’t.

GWB on June 11, 2012 at 7:51 AM

C ya Lisa in 6 mos.!

hillsoftx on June 10, 2012 at 7:08 PM

C ya EPA in 6 mos. (hopefully)

ontheright on June 11, 2012 at 8:47 AM

Socratease on June 10, 2012 at 11:57 PM

Thank you, Socratease. I have to shake my head every time I hear/see someone say “sue the govt” for their transgressions against the tax-payer…I guess the irony is lost on them.

ontheright on June 11, 2012 at 8:51 AM

Why do we need a federal EPA, when state environmental laws are all that is needed. especially given the formers history of overreach and ludditism?

Rixon on June 10, 2012 at 7:15 PM

I am all for reining in and defunding the EPA but leaving the matter completely to the states is dangerous. Some states facing financial troubles beyond their ability to shoulder may be tempted to go all-China on the environment, essentially ignoring the environmental needs of their citizens. Moreover, the pollution will eventually (and often very soon) reach other, more responsible states who had the misfortune to have a wrong neighbor.

Archivarix on June 11, 2012 at 9:10 AM

That’s not science. It’s a political agenda in action.

Yep, that’s the whole Prezzy Doin’ Fine administration wrapped up in one sentence. It’s all about the power to both sides of the aisle and why the repubs haven’t even tried to eliminate or defund the EPA.

Kissmygrits on June 11, 2012 at 10:01 AM

Even if I agreed with you (which I don’t) please respond by pasting in the spot where the word “fracking” (or “fracing”) appears anywhere in this article.

Thanks.

Jazz Shaw on June 10, 2012 at 8:45 PM

See! You jumped me after my disclaimer. IT IS ONE OF THE TAGS that Hotair uses. I mentioned that a couple comments later.

Tags: energy, EPA, fracking, house of representatives, Lisa Jackson, natural gas production

But, since you don’t believe me and I am in the business, and you are a blogger writing about stuff…

ericdijon on June 11, 2012 at 10:38 AM

This. People calling for the outright abolishment of the EPA seem to have forgotten (or weren’t affected by) such industry abuses as Love Canal, The Cuyahoga River, etc. My father was a water chemist, and can give you a list a mile long of all the nonsense industry used to get away with prior to the 1970′s and the EPA/environmental movement. Therefore, a need does exist for such an agency.

Unfortunately, for us, the one we got now is not it. As before, it has been taken over and corrupted by political partisans and hacks, with all the real scientists either having been either silenced or forced out. How to fix it though is anyone’s guess, as I don’t see how any real or meaningful change could ever be carried out in the hyper-partisan atmosphere that exists in Washington today.

JFS61 on June 11, 2012 at 6:22 AM

I’m with you on this. There IS a need for an agency to protect the environment, but its “rulemaking” activity needs to be constrained by Congress, so that the EPA can’t just “declare” an innocuous gas such as carbon dioxide a “danger” to the public, then impose draconian rules on its control.

The EPA has had some positive impact on the environment in the past–carbon monoxide levels are way down after catalytic converters were installed on cars, and sulfur dioxide emissions are down despite increased use of sulfur-containing fuels, due to imposition of control technology that can remove 95%+ of SO2 emissions at minimal cost.

But the EPA’s current “war on carbon dioxide” has gone MUCH too far, and the entire cost-benefit analysis procedure followed under previous administrations has been short-circuited and replaced by a dictatorial regime where compliance is either extremely expensive or impossible to demonstrate, and science and technology are ignored.

What is needed is either (1) replacement of Lisa Jackson by a new, more business-friendly and/or fair-minded Administrator appointed by a new President; and/or (2) Congressional limits on EPA power, with the possibility of selective de-funding enforcement of provisions Congress decides overstep the powers delegated to the EPA by law, while maintaining enforcement of sensible regulations that have sharply reduced pollution without bankrupting entire industries.

(1) requires the defeat of Barack Obama, (2) requires a Republican majority in the Senate.

Steve Z on June 11, 2012 at 12:51 PM

Nice work! Andy Harris is awesome. He doesn’t let these agencies off the hook.

dczombie on June 11, 2012 at 1:21 PM

The EPA is fracked up!

seven on June 11, 2012 at 1:29 PM