Quotes of the day

posted at 9:31 pm on June 9, 2012 by Allahpundit

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) said Friday he would be honored to join the Republican ticket as the vice presidential nominee, just one day after he endorsed Mitt Romney’s campaign.

“A year, year and a half ago, I was a physician in a small town, and it would be a great honor to be considered as a vice president for the Republican Party,” Paul told CNN. “I think that would be something that anybody who said otherwise would not be being truthful.”

But the first term senator said he had not discussed joining the ticket with Romney, whose vice presidential search is already underway.

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Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul’s endorsement of Mitt Romney last night is igniting a fury of rage from his father’s hardcore fan base. In a sort of libertarian version of Bob Dylan going electric (ask your parents), the Kentucky senator’s enthusiastic endorsement of Romney has Ron Paul forums fuming with cries of “Judas” and “Benedict Arnold.”

“Rand is dead to me,” wrote, Ruffusthedog at the Daily Paul, a heavily-visited pro-Paul website. “He should have never done this.” “Rand Paul is a sell out,” user Alxnz exclaimed. “He just lost my vote in 2016.” “All he had to do was not open his mouth,” wrote user Conalmc. Others even took their anger out on Ron Paul himself. “What will it be Old Man Ron? Will you be forever remembered as the leader in the greatest liberty movement since 1776, or will you go down as Benedict Arnold incarnate,” threatened lionsuar7788. “We will never vote for Romney or your flimsy son.”…

On both forums, the tide of incredulous—and highly personal—comments continued ad nauseam. With Ron Paul’s diehard supporters being one of his most formidable assets, especially when it comes to winning straw polls or online money bomb fundraisers, you’ve got to wonder if Rand Paul risks jeopardizing the family brand.

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[W]hile Paul is a helpful validator for Romney, endorsing Romney also gives Paul a level of mainstream credibility he lacked during his 2010 Senate campaign. It shows he’s willing to be a team player when it counts, and puts him on the safe side of any speculation over a third-party libertarian push.

And that could be crucially important or Paul if he decides to seek the White House himself in 2016 or beyond – as any number of operatives believe he hopes to do.

“Rand’s endorsement of GOP nominee Mitt Romney clearly shows that in spite of those who try to marginalize him, he has keen set of political instincts and is very much aware that a successful national run will require more than just his father’s loyal following,” said one Republican strategist close to Paul-world.

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[N]o true libertarian, no true friend of liberty, and no true blue Tea Partier could possibly even consider, much less actually endorse or approve of, the Father of Obamacare, Big Government tax and spender, Republican Mitt Romney.

Especially the son of Ron Paul, who has no excuse.

Especially a medical doctor, who has even fewer excuses…

Vote Libertarian – the only political party that embraces the same core value as Dr. Ron Paul: Liberty!

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Rand has never been the devout libertarian that his father is. He is certainly a libertarian-leaning Republican, and while he can often be a good ally to libertarians in the Senate, he is still first and foremost a Republican. And as a Senator he has much less latitude to diverge from the party line and needs other Senators to cooperate with him.

Because of this, the chances of him endorsing Libertarian Party candidate Gary Johnson were somewhere around one in one billion. While such an endorsement would make many libertarians happy, it would end his life as a Republican. It would mean that he would have no party support whatsoever come re-election time. It would alienate him from the party and mean he would get nothing accomplished in the Senate…

So while it may seem offensive that a liberty-minded person would endorse a candidate who supports such awful things as the PATRIOT Act and NDAA, it actually makes a lot of sense. I’d even go so far as to say it may be a price worth paying. If the endorsement solidifies Republican support and earns him points with the party establishment, it means he could have more freedom to chart his own course in the Senate.

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As we have seen over the last few months, the Paul forces have the very real ability to not only disrupt the choosing of delegates to the Republican National Convention but also influence (and change) the leadership at various state parties around the country.

Does Rand Paul endorsing Romney mean that the Paul acolytes will immediately cease and desist in their efforts to have their views heard? No. But more so than most people who support a politician, the Paul folks listen to Ron/Rand and follow their wishes.

Rand’s endorsement then — when coupled with Ron’s email to supporters earlier this week urging politeness at the national convention — are a net win for Romney because they virtually ensure that there won’t be a genuine insurrection led by supporters of Paul at the convention. (Expect Romney to give Rand/Ron speaking slots at the convention too in hopes of throwing a sop to the Paul acolytes and push the theme of inclusion and big-tented-ness.)

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At the Texas GOP Convention, Ron Paul addressed the issue that frustrates many people (including me) who like and respect him personally: the vocal, unbending supporters who were/are unwilling to accept any outcome other than Dr. Paul in the White House…

On the first day of the largest state convention in calendar year 2012, he told his supporters that upon arriving in Tampa for the Republican National Convention, they were to “be respectful.”

The bottom line is that Dr. Paul and his son do not appear to be trying to blow up the Republican Party. They seem to realize that they have a better chance of advancing their goals in the long run by working within the system. For all the talk about being revolutionaries, Dr. Paul wants to see his movement become mainstream.

This has always been where Dr. Paul diverges from his most hard-core supporters. They often want an all-or-nothing approach, leaving them marginalized. Dr. Paul is willing to take what he can get now and come back for the rest later. This is not “selling out.” This is “pragmatism,” which does not have to be a dirty word.

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I realize it’s frustrating to hear Sen. Rand Paul endorse someone besides his father — especially a corporatist empty suit who flirts with Keynesianism and who shepherded key aspects of Obamacare into existence as governor of Massachusetts. But before you pounce, renounce and otherwise burn all the bridges, consider that the revolution can be evolutionary

If that involves making nice with Mitt Romney, so be it. Let’s not let our zeal blind us to the “adjacent possible.” In other words, don’t bulldoze the inroads you’ve made out of impatience or cynicism. You have moved the trenches forward. And having a strong liberty contingent close to any president means that president has a conscience speaking directly into his ear every single day…

There is a very strong argument to be made for letting the body politic bleed longer. That is, one could distance oneself from Romney, hoping he loses to the abysmal Obama in 2012. Then Rand Paul could run in 2016 with the support of both mainstream Republicans and Ron Paul revolutionaries. This is a fine idea except for the bleeding. That is: How much more can the Republic take of a Barack Obama administration? I know, I know. Obama and Romney are little different from your perspective. But consider that a Romney administration that includes Paul’s people — plus a well-composed Congress — could result in something really different from the rapid decline Obama is presiding over. Wishful thinking? No more so than counting on the stars aligning for a Rand Paul revolution four years from now.

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If the movement is about Ron Paul, then it never had a future. It was born terminally defective. If it’s about ideas and ideals, it will never die. The only Party in which it has a chance to thrive, though, is the GOP, and the GOP must nurture at least some of Paul’s ideals if it is to have any useful existence of its own…

Whether or not Paul’s supporters can vote for Romney, they have to find a way to remain within the GOP even if Romney is the candidate. If they leave, they’ll find it hard to impossible to get back in, and if they don’t get back in, they’ll have to find a third-party home. That’s the path to complete irrelevance. They don’t have to like or vote for Romney, but they need to get more of their people in statehouses and Congress, and the easiest way to do that will be as Republicans.

If they don’t find a way to square that circle, they’ll be a historical footnote, and America will be the worse for it. They might start by not spitting on Rand.

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Hillary/Christie — 2016

Schadenfreude on May 2, 2013 at 6:43 PM

Perfect ticket for McCain, Ms. Lindsey and other assorted oafs and oafettes.

Schadenfreude on May 2, 2013 at 6:43 PM

He concluded by lamenting, “There are times these days when I feel that I have more in common on foreign policy with President Obama than I do with some in my own party.”

Traitor.
And thanx for your service.
Now just STFU and retire already.

burrata on May 2, 2013 at 6:44 PM

“I’m the wackobird whom the D/Rs hate” — Cruz 2016

Schadenfreude on May 2, 2013 at 6:45 PM

If Hillary runs…..what female would the gop have to run against her?

Mmmmm

PappyD61 on May 2, 2013 at 6:45 PM

For shame the people of AZ electe two incredible idiots to the senate.

Schadenfreude on May 2, 2013 at 6:45 PM

Go right ahead. I’m sure his endorsement would do wonders for her if she should run. I’m hoping Benghazi will utterly destroy her politically well before 2016.

hawkeye54 on May 2, 2013 at 6:46 PM

I am glad McCain lost.

He’s that bad.

PappyD61 on May 2, 2013 at 6:46 PM

elected, repeatedly with the incontinent of the brain/pants McCain.

His grandfather and father abhor what he has become.

Schadenfreude on May 2, 2013 at 6:46 PM

What difference, at this point… lolz. Still not getting old… unlike McCain.

Thank you. Don’t forget to tip the wait staff.

Fallon on May 2, 2013 at 6:46 PM

And the difference would be?

bazil9 on May 2, 2013 at 6:46 PM

Keep hearing Hilary! is ‘a shoo-in for 2016′.

Er….wasn’t Hillary! ‘a shoo-in’ in 2008?

And who the hell cares what McCain thinks? Other than his retiring.

GarandFan on May 2, 2013 at 6:47 PM

He seems to have a big problem with how benghazi was handled but I’m sure he would side with clinton anyway

JR on May 2, 2013 at 6:48 PM

If Hillary and Cruz were the nominees……she would weep in the debates and win the female vote in a landslide.

The gop needs to find a butchy female that women aren’t threatened by to run in 2016.

PappyD61 on May 2, 2013 at 6:49 PM

He probably will be running again in 2016. Could even speak at clinton’s convention.

JR on May 2, 2013 at 6:50 PM

Nah. Michelle Obama is going to do toss in. When she does Hillary will have a cooking show on ABC.

Limerick on May 2, 2013 at 6:51 PM

Nah. Michelle Obama is going to do toss in. When she does Hillary will have a cooking show on ABC.

Limerick on May 2, 2013 at 6:51 PM

If she weren’t such a lazy lardazz, and if she wouldn’t know that Barry will bring in billions, all based on nothing, she’d do it.

Schadenfreude on May 2, 2013 at 6:52 PM

The Secret friendship of Hillary Clinton and John McCain

bazil9 on May 2, 2013 at 6:52 PM

The Obamas will support Deval or such, to have a front. The Obamas will lead from behind, as they always do.

Schadenfreude on May 2, 2013 at 6:53 PM

The Obamas hate the Clintons with passion, and vice versa.

Schadenfreude on May 2, 2013 at 6:53 PM

in that senario, i think there’s a decent chance. The buzzfeed pick up of the video hit piece on Paul felt to me like McCain..or someone like him. McCain hated Paul for his filibuster. McCain is an angry guy…and I bet he holds grudges.

he doesn’t need money, he’s got Cindy for that. He is loyal only to himself, and his ‘legacy’ as statesman/senator. I know that sounds like a bad joke…and he is

r keller on May 2, 2013 at 6:53 PM

The only reason John “Complete the Border Fence” McCain wouldn’t support Hillary is because he is up for re-election in 2016. He becomes very conservative for three months before his re-election date.

bw222 on May 2, 2013 at 6:54 PM

Obama/Bloomberg, 2016. You heard it here first.

Limerick on May 2, 2013 at 6:54 PM

Of course McCain will go for Benghazi Hillary as he would figure she would be much more likely to get us into more muslim wars for muslims than Rand would. Not nearly as many as he would like, of course, but still more.

VorDaj on May 2, 2013 at 7:00 PM

Would McCain support Hillary in 2016 if Rand Paul’s the nominee?

Uh yeah…I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again: I’m convinced McCain voted for Obama in 08.

Rogue on May 2, 2013 at 7:02 PM

I am glad McCain lost.

He’s that bad.

PappyD61 on May 2, 2013 at 6:46 PM

And through all this Senator McCain has attained, and has created for himself serenity, and it is only his insanity that has kept him alive in his senility.

RasThavas on May 2, 2013 at 7:03 PM

Well, he supported Obama in 2008.

mchristian on May 2, 2013 at 7:03 PM

Would McCain support Hillary in 2016 if Rand Paul’s the nominee?

Well, if he does, I think the only posters that Hot Air will have left will be King Gold and the Proggies.

The rest of us will be reduced to blood-splatter by the ban-hammer.

Resist We Much on May 2, 2013 at 7:05 PM

He’s almost 77 and you are worried about what he will be doing if he reaches 81??

I say, let’s take a wait and see approach.

Blake on May 2, 2013 at 7:06 PM

Clinton/McCain ’12

portlandon on May 2, 2013 at 7:06 PM

And of course the media will treat McCain’s defection as a political Super Bowl, even though on balance most of them are closer to Paul on foreign policy than to Maverick.

Rand’s foreign policy views are not that far from Ronald Reagan’s, whereas McCain’s are pretty much the opposite of Reagan’s.

1. The United States should not commit its forces to military action overseas unless the cause is vital to our national interest.

2. If the decision is made to commit our forces to combat abroad, it must be done with the clear intent and support needed to win. It should not be a halfway or tentative commitment, and there must be clearly defined and realistic objectives.

3. Before we commit our troops to combat, there must be reasonable assurance that the cause we are fighting for and the actions we take will have the support of the American people and Congress.

4. Even after all these other tests are met, our troops should be committed to combat abroad only as a last resort, when no other choice is available.

- Ronald Reagan

McCain’s foreign policy views are pretty much like Hitler’s who also wanted to invade a whole lot of countries.

VorDaj on May 2, 2013 at 7:09 PM

Mac’s not going to go for the Rahm-Pelosi news conference snuggle pose, is he?

dissent555 on May 2, 2013 at 7:14 PM

Is there any doubt? That Crazy, Old, “I Wanna Be President” Lunatic will do anything and everything to get close to a Cabinet position. He can be Secretary of; Reaching Across the Aisle and Taking it in the Azz, How Many Votes do the Demorats Need and the I Will Do Anything To Screew the American People.

Tbone McGraw on May 2, 2013 at 7:16 PM

Well, if he does, I think the only posters that Hot Air will have left will be King Gold and the Proggies.

The rest of us will be reduced to blood-splatter by the ban-hammer.

Resist We Much on May 2, 2013 at 7:05 PM

Yeah, I remember the heated rhetoric on the blogosphere when Jim Jeffords handed over control of the Senate to the Dems because Bush didn’t invite him to a “teacher of the year” ceremony or something. This would be the nuclear version of that.

Happy Nomad on May 2, 2013 at 7:18 PM

Big fat nothingburger. I couldn’t care less what McCain does or says. He loves him some LSM TV facetime and will do and say anything to keep getting it.

Marcola on May 2, 2013 at 7:22 PM

McCain endorses Shrillary, while Barack endorses The Mooch. Oh, and don’t think The Mooch isn’t going to run.

SouthernGent on May 2, 2013 at 7:25 PM

W H A T . . . . D I F F E R E N C E . . . . D O E S . . . . I T

. . . . M A K E . ? . ? . ? . ? . ?

listens2glenn on May 2, 2013 at 7:27 PM

M c C a i n . . . . W H O ?

listens2glenn on May 2, 2013 at 7:28 PM

At this point.. what difference does it make?

H.R. Clinton will be 69 years old by the time the next election rolls around.

She already allowed herself to go to seed in front of the entire world. She gained a great deal of weight. She appeared at official functions without makeup, her hair dirty and clipped back with a large plastic clip or in an unkempt ponytail. To say her appearance was less than professional is an understatement.

Plastic surgery to appear younger and more vibrant is only effective if people don’t remember how old and decrepit you allowed yourself to become before the surgery. To suddenly rush out and get a head to toe make over puts H.R. Clinton at risk of an avalanche of ridicule and jokes that, in and of themselves, might bury her ambitions.

It is difficult for a man to get elected president. In recent history we elect tall men. We also don’t elect fat men. These men are obliged to pay an inordinate amount of attention to their wardrobe, since every detail of their appearance is scrutinized…and criticized. The way they speak, the tone of their voice, the mannerisms they display, or don’t… all is analyzed.

All of this, before a word of policy proposal or plan for governance, or discussion of background or record is uttered.

Part of the reason for this scrutiny is because the individual elected to the presidency will become person who most represent the nation to the rest of the world.

Frankly, I don’t see the ‘First Female President’ as a dowdy, matronly, tired, seedy, obese woman with no real experience governing, a minimal degree of experience as a lawmaker, a controversial, possibly scandal ridden, and largely failed, term at the State Department, whose rise in political circles stems simply from having been the First Lady by virtue of having been married to an impeached president for two terms.

thatsafactjack on May 2, 2013 at 7:31 PM

Are there really enough Ron Paul voters to warrant recognition as a demographic? (That’s a serious question by the way.)

angelat0763 on May 2, 2013 at 7:41 PM

thatsafactjack on May 2, 2013 at 7:31 PM

bravo. good post.

SparkPlug on May 2, 2013 at 7:41 PM

He’s almost 77 and you are worried about what he will be doing if he reaches 81??

I say, let’s take a wait and see approach.

Blake on May 2, 2013 at 7:06 PM

Dude – his freaking Mom is still alive. Evil is strong.

angelat0763 on May 2, 2013 at 7:43 PM

whose rise in political circles stems simply from having been the First Lady by virtue of having been married to an impeached president for two terms.

thatsafactjack on May 2, 2013 at 7:31 PM

I think that last sentence should read having been married to an impeached two-term impeached President. Otherwise those are some awfully long terms for the Clinton marriage.

Seriously though, I think you may be right. The Dems don’t feel compelled to run their fossils because it is there term. I’m more scared that they might actually recruit Mooch who makes Hillary Clinton look like Cordell Hull in comparison. After eight years of the rat-eared coward, we do not need his racist angry whore taking over.

Happy Nomad on May 2, 2013 at 7:45 PM

Would McCain support Hillary in 2016 if Rand Paul’s the nominee?

Well, if he does, I think the only posters that Hot Air will have left will be King Gold and the Proggies.

The rest of us will be reduced to blood-splatter by the ban-hammer.

Resist We Much on May 2, 2013 at 7:05 PM

so freaking funny; King Gold and the Proggies.

We tried to warn everyone about the RINOs. They scrotched up everything just as planned.

SparkPlug on May 2, 2013 at 7:47 PM

If she weren’t such a lazy lardazz, and if she wouldn’t know that Barry BAMSTAHHHHHHH!!!!! YOU DA MANNNNNNNNNNN BAMMMMMMMY BABYYYY!!! LOVE YA BARRY OL BUDDY OL PALLLLLLL!!!!!! YAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Schay 2, 2013 aPM

cableguy615 on May 2, 2013 at 7:47 PM

Rand Paul, Ted Cruz….why even invest any emotion into the presidential race. These two would be wiped up by the clintons. Hopefully Chris Christie will be the nom…he actually has a chance of beating hillary.

rubberneck on May 2, 2013 at 7:50 PM

I once believed Hillary would be a shoe in …it’s hers if she wants it

But look at her. She’s got a lot of plastic surgery and about 100 pounds to lose if she plans to run

And no..McCain will not support if she does run

Dems found the winning ticket in 2008…and he is black. Expect a black man on the ticket…’her’ name isn’t hillary. His name is Cory Booker..or MA governor

Redford on May 2, 2013 at 7:57 PM

rubberneck on May 2, 2013 at 7:50 PM

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Chris Christie is, and would be another McCain-Romney.

Nominate ANYONE willing to publicly state (and genuinely mean it):

“Government is not the solution to the problem, Government IS the problem.”

listens2glenn on May 2, 2013 at 8:03 PM

I’m starting to think they implanted an anal probe in Crazy John while he was in the Hanoi Hilton, so every time he faces opposition he always lets the other Man on top. He takes it like a good POW and likes to say “thank you Sir,may I please have another.”

Tbone McGraw on May 2, 2013 at 8:08 PM

Hillary/Christie — 2016

Schadenfreude on May 2, 2013 at 6:43 PM

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/05/hillary-clinton-chris-christie-clinton-global-initiative-90871.html

The featured guests are Rahm,Chelsea, Jack lew, Hillary and the big man.

BoxHead1 on May 2, 2013 at 8:15 PM

She won’t run anyways. Kirsten Gildebrand will be the nominee.

can_con on May 2, 2013 at 8:23 PM

Hillary/ M. Obama 2016. By a landslide! Why Not? We have evolved into a land of stupidity proven by the last two POTUS elections.

they lie on May 2, 2013 at 8:36 PM

McCain’s up for re-election in 2016. He’ll be 81, but does anyone doubt he’s going to be in the Robert Byrd they’re-going-to-have-to-carry-me-out-of-the-Senate-on-a-stretcher mode 3 1/2 years from now?

That’s where it gets interesting, because if he opts to run for re-election he’s going to have to commit to something involving the Republican presidential candidate(s) during the primary campaign. He won re-nomination in 2010 by basically going against much of the stuff he had been pushing for before then, including immigration. If it becomes clear during the primary the Maverick is only going to support the GOP if certain candidates get the nomination and will bolt to Hillary if someone like Paul or Cruz were to win the nomination, could he get renominated for the Senate if he faced a credible conservative opponent?

jon1979 on May 2, 2013 at 9:07 PM

I look for McCain to be the keynote speaker at the 2016 Democratic convention if Shrillary is the nominee. Either as a “bipartisan” Republican preaching “unity”, or because he’s done an Arlen and jumped parties.

The latter is especially likely if he faces any sort of primary challenge, especially from the Tea Party contingent. Simply put, he believes he is entitled to that Senate seat, and he’s not going to let any upstart take it away from him. Factor in his relationship with Harry Reid (which is probably closer than his relationship with The Flake), and he can count on a warm welcome and plenty of help as the new Democratic Senator from AZ.

It will be just one more example of why those inside the Beltway have more in common with each other than they do with the rest of us. And they like it that way.

It’s us they don’t care much for.

clear ether

eon

eon on May 2, 2013 at 9:21 PM

Rand Paul, Ted Cruz….why even invest any emotion into the presidential race. These two would be wiped up by the clintons. Hopefully Chris Christie will be the nom…he actually has a chance of beating hillary.

rubberneck on May 2, 2013 at 7:50 PM

Yeah, Christie’s a shoe-in. Especially when the base stays home because the only difference between Christie and Bill Clinton’s trailer is about 300 lbs.

fitzfong on May 2, 2013 at 9:29 PM

I do not think McCain would back Hillary at all..But on the other hand I don’t think he will “hug up” to Rand..I think he will just remain quiet..:)

Dire Straits on May 2, 2013 at 9:35 PM

Whomever is McShame’s primary opponent, if he should be so obtuse as to attempt another term, I shall give, wait for it, “liberally” to that person’s campaign.

To Sen. John McCain: good bye, good riddance, & happy trails in RINOland; in the future I hope, nay, pray, Cindy gets her hair done at least as the frequently as your pal, Obama, plays golf – all on the taxpayers dime of course…

GreatCommunicator on May 2, 2013 at 9:57 PM

I don’t think of McCain as a Republican anymore – as in ‘party of Lincoln’. He jumped that shark snake a while back.

Abraham Lincoln took on a mighty battle to preserve the nation. The McCain gang are selling it to the world.

He’s a globalist. He found his power trip in pretending to walk between two parties

McCain can use his Gang to do cross over work with the other party thus giving various GOP fakers excuses for not satisfying the voters.

McCain needs to have his ego stroked by Lindsey, Lindsey cashes in on being an amnesty puppet (money has to go somewhere) and McCain can play Dr Strangelove

If McCain got insulted enough he would support Hillary. But if that scared away little Lindsey, McCain won’t do it. He has needs

entagor on May 2, 2013 at 11:25 PM

It’ll be Jon Stewart and Rachel Maddow. They’ll make Olberman the SecState and Morning Joe will be the SecDef as the ‘token’ republican. It’s a celebrity era.

trigon on May 3, 2013 at 12:10 AM

Are you asking if McCain would come out of the Closet?

PhillupSpace on May 3, 2013 at 4:13 AM

By being hawkish on the use of the military, McCain disguises the fact that he is a closet liberal!

PhillupSpace on May 3, 2013 at 4:17 AM

Anyone that would support the unmitigated, amoral horror that is Hillary Clinton for a position of leadership deserves nothing but contempt. McCain can’t be shoved into retirement soon enough.

RobertE on May 3, 2013 at 10:07 AM

For all you freking moderates out there.I think there are still enough of us conservatives left who held our noses and voted for your guys,McCain and Romney to insure that if you nominate Orca Christie,we will stay home and finally destroy the lesser of two evils party!

redware on May 3, 2013 at 3:37 PM

Of course he would; he is basically a Democrat.

Theophile on May 3, 2013 at 5:02 PM