The L.A. plastic bag ban

posted at 8:41 pm on June 8, 2012 by Dustin Siggins

In late May, the city of Los Angeles banned plastic bags. Pushed by Hollywood liberals who were allegedly concerned about the environmental and economic impacts of plastic bags, the ban will take place over the next year. From the LA Times (which supported the ban):

Egged on by actress Julia Louis-Dreyfus and an array of environmental groups, the City Council voted 13 to 1 to phase out plastic bags over the next 12 months at an estimated 7,500 stores. Councilman Bernard Parks cast the lone no vote.

From another Times article:

The City Council voted 13 to 1 to phase out plastic bags over the next 16 months at an estimated 7,500 stores, meaning shoppers will need to bring reusable bags or purchase paper bags for 10 cents each.

The phase-out discrepancy aside, the irony of it all is the utter inaccuracy of various statements by supporters of the ban. From one such individual:

“Plastic bags are an environmental and economic threat,” said Sarah Sikich, director of coastal resources for Heal the Bay. “Heal the Bay applauds Los Angeles for becoming the largest city in the nation to take a stand against plastic pollution. We hope this decision catalyzes the state of California and the rest of the nation to take action.”

There are at least three basic reasons this ban shouldn’t be in place, and certainly shouldn’t be expanded to the state and nation:

1.  Californians use 12 billion plastic bags per year, according to advocates of the ban. If this policy was expanded to the entire state, this would cost citizens $600 million per year, or over $30 per person. Is this really an ethical policy, charging people via government fiat merely to shop? Or is it more like New York’s new soda restriction proposals, where Bloomberg has said he’s not taking away freedoms even as he does so?

(Note: The cost per citizen was calculated using the following math: 12 billion divided by 2 divided by 10 divided by half of California’s 2011 population of 37,691,912.)

2.  Second, jobs could be lost. Local businesses are fighting back with a newly released ad highlighting testimony by local workers about the risk to their jobs. The ban’s supporters say no businesses have closed in Santa Monica, Calif. — which implemented a plastic-bag ban — but as one woman pointed out in the ad, the reusable bags are made in China.

3.  The environmental impact of plastic bags is debatable at best. My good friend and Just Facts President Jim Agresti recently r eported on a study related to just this subject. From his blog post:

In 2011, the United Kingdom’s Environment Agency released a study that evaluated nine categories of environmental impacts caused by different types of supermarket bags. The study found that paper bags have a worse effect on the environment than plastic bags in all nine impact categories, which include global warming potential, abiotic depletion, acidification, eutrophication, human toxicity, fresh water aquatic ecotoxicity, marine aquatic ecotoxicity, terrestrial ecotoxicity, and photochemical oxidation.

And later:

Critics of plastic bags frequently argue that they “take hundreds of years to decompose” . . .

Such logic ignores reality in two key respects . . .

First, modern-day landfills are generally benign because they have composite liners, clay caps, and runoff collections systems. As explained in a 1999 paper in the Journal of Environmental Engineering, modern landfills have “minimum odor nuisance,” “pose few problems after they are closed,” and “are a tribute to sanitary engineering.” Moreover, after being closed, landfills can be used for parks, commercial development, golf courses, nature conservatories, ski slopes, and airfields.

Second, even organic materials in landfills commonly take hundreds of years to decompose . . .

A study of landfills sponsored by the University of Arizona found that the tightly compacted contents of landfills create low-oxygen environments that inhibit decomposition. The details of the study were published in the book, Rubbish: The Archaeology of Garbage (2001), which explains that:

• “the dynamics of a landfill are very nearly the opposite of what most people think.”

• landfills “are not vast composters; rather, they are vast mummifiers.”

• “almost all the organic material” from the 1950s in a Phoenix landfill “remained readily identifiable: Pages from coloring books were still clearly that, onion parings were onion parings, carrot tops were carrot tops.”

• much of the organic material in an ancient Roman landfill that was twenty centuries old had not fully decomposed.

So, in short, the same rich Hollywood liberals who claim to want to help the environment actually may not be doing so. They also are harming the non-rich people who make plastic bags by potentially causing them to lose jobs through government-mandated outsourcing. Finally, they are pushing for legislation that would cause the little guy and gal extra money merely to get groceries for their families.

Perhaps the Occupiers are at the wrong location . . .

[Originally posted at the National Review Online Planet Gore blog.]

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This guy is the human equivalent to Chinese Water Torture.

tru2tx on March 28, 2013 at 5:19 PM

330 million and this is the best we could come up with.

Anyone who doubts that there is not a lower power at work on this country has not paid attention the last 20 years.

acyl72 on March 28, 2013 at 5:26 PM

America shows him a big finger.

Schadenfreude on March 28, 2013 at 5:26 PM

Nah, just shame on you, asshole.

Midas on March 28, 2013 at 5:27 PM

Finally managed to find a few boxes of my preferred .40 cal ammo today. You don’t wanna know what I paid.

M240H on March 28, 2013 at 5:19 PM

You’re competing with all law enforcement and feral government “domestic security forces” in that caliber. I’m thinking of getting rid of my 40. It’s 45 from now on for me. I don’t want anything that intersects too much with any government procurement. It sucks because I like my 9mm. I had to pay $27 a box at the range last time (I have to buy ammo there) because the only 9mm they could get was that silly frangible stuff (as if I care how it hits the backstop). They kept apologizing for it but I told them that we’re all getting shafted by this.

I’m switching to reloading now, anyway – and I’ll have to pay the extra fee at the range to BYO. There seems to be no other choice.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on March 28, 2013 at 5:27 PM

Aww, bless his lil heart…Mr. President isn’t doing very well at getting anything done this term so far, now, is he? Could it be that he’s just not very good at this leadership thing?

scalleywag on March 28, 2013 at 5:28 PM

Finally managed to find a few boxes of my preferred .40 cal ammo today. You don’t wanna know what I paid.

M240H on March 28, 2013 at 5:19 PM

I suppose it depends on what your preferred brand is.
Just got a .40 cal Glock the other day, so I went and got some ammo at the local Sportsmans Warehouse. They actually had a bunch in stock – $17 / box (50 rounds) for Fiocchi FMJ, $19 / box for Independence FMJ. Not sure how that compares as I just now had the need for .40 cal. But another store wanted $56 for a 50 round box of Gold Dot HP – didn’t buy that.

dentarthurdent on March 28, 2013 at 5:29 PM

Nope, ain’t gonna watch the pedantic narcissist. Just waiting for his 4 years to go by SO THAT HE LEAVES!

GarandFan on March 28, 2013 at 5:30 PM

Finally managed to find a few boxes of my preferred .40 cal ammo today. You don’t wanna know what I paid.

M240H on March 28, 2013 at 5:19 PM

Man, I can find .40 with relative ease, at regular prices. The 9mm and 223 are starting to appear on the shelves a bit more regularly – first the really cheap crap, now some slightly better brands, etc.

What’s kinda funny is that it seems the last few months of anti-gun hysteria have resulted in precisely what they don’t want – *more* guns in the hands of citizens, and *more* ammo stockpiled in citizens closets. I’ll bet the private ammo stockpile has almost doubled in the last 120 days; people aren’t buying it all up then running out to the range and shooting it.

Midas on March 28, 2013 at 5:32 PM

canopfor on March 28, 2013 at 4:52 PM

90% sort of sounds like the 90% of guns in Mexico come from the US….

Do they really expect us to believe that load of barrack?

Polls have shown 47 – 53% thereabouts of household being gun owners, are we to believe that 47 – 53% of the country want more restrictions on their freedoms?

Perhaps there may be a few gun owners who may want to go along to get along, but come on.

That 90% would have to include a substantial number of gun owners who don’t want any more of people control.

NMRN123 on March 28, 2013 at 4:59 PM

NMRN123:Sorry for the late response,was busy News twitter hopping,

good points,and yup,People Control,is the GOAL!:)

canopfor on March 28, 2013 at 5:33 PM

If you disagree with him, it’s because you’ve “forgotten those kids.”

I remember that O “forgot those kids” when it came to the school voucher program in DC. It’s awfully convenient that he forgot about that one.

TulsAmerican on March 28, 2013 at 5:38 PM

I haven’t forgotten about Ambassador Stevens.

Obama has.

fogw on March 28, 2013 at 5:40 PM

notes that Obama spent more time on background checks in today’s speech than he did on “assault weapons.” (In fact, the term “assault weapons” is never used. O opted instead for the phrase “weapons of war,”

The AWB is a stalking horse issue,..it won’t take them where they really want to go which is total registration made possible with background checks on private sales. That’s their real prize. Then, they can plunder your savings accounts with no fear.:) Of course they’ll take the AWB if it falls in their lap, but registration leading to confiscation is where the tasty stuff really lies.

a capella on March 28, 2013 at 5:44 PM

The antichrist speaks. He allows the slaughter of thousands of innocent children in the womb each and every day yet when it comes to his agenda, get out of the way of the tears.

crosshugger on March 28, 2013 at 6:08 PM

Sad thing is, in thirty years the people of this country will gladly give away their gun rights. The loonies in charge of the public education nuthatches are steadily indoctrinating the next generation that guns is bad for you. I weep for the future…

cornbred on March 28, 2013 at 6:12 PM

OBAMA:

SHALL

NOT

BE

INFRINGED

( Jackass ! )

TX-96 on March 28, 2013 at 6:31 PM

I haven’t forgotten about Ambassador Stevens.

Obama has.

fogw on March 28, 2013 at 5:40 PM

Shame on the Obama administration for the way they trample and revile the Constitution.

The oath of office of the President of the United States is an oath or affirmation required by the United States Constitution before the President begins the execution of the office. The wording is specified in Article Two, Section One, Clause Eight:

Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:— “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

Obama has done nothing to affirm his oath of office……on the contrary, he has done everything to tear down, distort and ignore the Constitution….

redguy on March 28, 2013 at 6:31 PM

pathetic and petulant.

rob verdi on March 28, 2013 at 4:02 PM

pathetic and petulant

rob verdi on March 28, 2013 at 4:02 PM

Are you going to just keep repeating that?

Or are you going to let the rest of us have a turn?

pathetic and petulant

There Goes The Neighborhood on March 28, 2013 at 6:35 PM

“Shame on us if we’ve forgotten. I haven’t forgotten those kids.”

You don’t have the gene for empathy, Obama. Any tears you shed are crocodile tears designed to try to filch more power.

VorDaj on March 28, 2013 at 6:52 PM

Shameless Obama scolds: ‘Shame on us if we’ve forgotten’ Newtown kids; Citizens: Shame on you
http://twitchy.com/2013/03/28/shameless-obama-scolds-shame-on-us-if-weve-forgotten-newtown-kids-citizens-shame-on-you/

His line about forgetting Newtown was uttered at that political theater event, in which grieving moms flanked President User.

Once again, he politicized a tragedy. And added a “shame on you,” scolding. Dear Mr. President: Unlike you, we mourn the loss of every life. Shame on us? Shame on you.

@BarackObama Wish you cared about unborn children as much as you’re using these kids to push this political agenda.
Mary Leahy (@maryleahy) March 28, 2013

President Obama on gun reform: “Shame on us if we’ve forgotten. I haven’t forgotten those kids.”

He’s using there deaths, disgusting—
Wreck it Rich (@richdurand77) March 28, 2013

Of course, we understand it is hard to feel shame when one is utterly shameless.

Some Twitter users bring up something else. Forgetting? Well, what about Benghazi?

@BarackObama Did you forget those that perished in Benghazi? #DemandAction—
Chris Berry (@berrysgrowlers) March 28, 2013

Colbyjack on March 28, 2013 at 7:12 PM

Video: President Pinocchio repeats Left’s favorite bogus gun control stat
http://twitchy.com/2013/03/28/video-president-pinocchio-repeats-lefts-favorite-bogus-gun-control-stat/
The shaming included the discredited statistic that a “loophole” allows “as many as 40 percent of all gun purchases to take place without a background check.”

This isn’t the first time Obama has relied on that bogus figure. In January, he said that “as many as 40 percent of all gun purchases are conducted without a background check.” Even the Washington Post gave that one a couple of Pinocchios.

But, you know, he did say “as many as,” so technically that would cover the more accurate figure of about 11 percent.

Are strawmen subject to background checks for guns?—
Whitney Pitcher (@whitneypitcher) March 28, 2013

NMRN123 on March 28, 2013 at 7:15 PM

“1966? They didn’t have assault weapons back then. He didn’t have an iPad either.”

Er, you do realise that “assault weapons” predate Charles Whitman’s massacre at the University of Texas, don’t you?

But, do you wanna know what does predate the iPad?

A Democratic budget passed by the Senate!

iPad introduced:

3 April 2010

Last budget passed by the Democratic-controlled Senate:

9 April 2009

Heh. :)

Axe on March 28, 2013 at 7:19 PM

Right..no you havem’tforgotten you POS…you continue to exploit these poor, sad people in Newton for your treacherous, illegal agenda.

We know what you’re up to…Crazy Joe blurted it out a couple days ago on his usual lip tripping blurt outs. He must’ve ben high as a kite on the millions he spent on hotels and booze in Europe last week.

You’ll not prevent one criminal, gang banger hooodie wearing turd from doing what they want with guns. Just us law abiding citizens that want protection from the scum you and Fat Al refuse to talk about…maybe they’re that “private army” you talk about.

Obama’s “bible”…let not an unfortunate situation go wasted when you can steal more freedoms from real Americans.

Twana on March 28, 2013 at 7:34 PM

Finally managed to find a few boxes of my preferred .40 cal ammo today. You don’t wanna know what I paid.

M240H on March 28, 2013 at 5:19 PM

You’re right. I just want to know where you found it, so I can get some.

bgibbs1000 on March 28, 2013 at 7:55 PM

I didn’t read the Obama speech. Why read something written by a committee?

However, I did a search to see if he really did say “Shame on us…”

He really said it. The guy is shameless. Who really wrote the speech, Eric Holder?

The one thing we don’t want out of this Congress is background checks.

Big Sis LocknLoad is stocking up Hollow Points, enough for each citizen, and armored vehicles more suited for Taliban. All she needs is names, addresses, and Google Map

I already know from all the speeches coming out of the Beltway, the enemy is me, or anyone who wants a gun for more than pinging squirrels

entagor on March 28, 2013 at 7:56 PM

Shame on us for electing you!

Jayrae on March 28, 2013 at 8:17 PM

Obama is a disgusting piece of inhuman garbage. He is a liar, he knows it, and doesnt even show the slightest bit of remorse. Every time he speaks the world gets dumber.

Think im being a bit hyperbolic?

Go back and listen to everything he said about Obamacare. Before, during and after its passage.

He is either sinister in his dishonesty or the biggest, most ignorant fool ever to hold high office.

He isnt a herculean intellect, for sure, but hes not a dummy.

That leaves a roiling, festering, liar in a way that would put Nixon at the kids table.

Barrack Obama is a sick, pathological radical who has been trained to reach an end, no matter the means.

Im tired of even acknowledging the ridiculous, inane, blather that comes out of his crooked mouth.

So, theres that….

alecj on March 28, 2013 at 8:20 PM

I. Hate. Him.

sablegsd on March 28, 2013 at 8:37 PM

“‘The organizer’s first job is to create the issues or problems,’ The organizer ‘must first rub raw the resentments of the people of the community; fan the latent hostilities of many of the people to the point of overt expression. for unless there is controversy people are not concerned enough to act. . . . An organizer must stir up dissatisfaction and discontent.

Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it. In conflict tactics there are certain rules that [should be regarded] as universalities. One is that the opposition must be singled out as the target and ‘frozen.’…”

Saul Alinsky’s Handbook for Radicals

If there is any SHAME Barry, it’s on you.

GarandFan on March 28, 2013 at 8:42 PM

I. Hate. Him.

sablegsd on March 28, 2013 at 8:37 PM

Nothign wrong with that. I had that sentiment in 2005 when he ran for state senate. All my coworkers in 2007/08 thought I was being hysterical when I was predicting the calamity that would ensue if he were elected.

Time has vindicated me.

tom daschle concerned on March 28, 2013 at 8:47 PM

Obama and those around him have no love for our country or our Constitution.
The only thing I have to say is SCREW HIM!

Delsa on March 28, 2013 at 8:56 PM

Comrade O, the great self-righteous finger waggering lecturer, speaks out. Next up on the program, the two minutes hate directed at Wayne LaPierre, featuring today’s guest host, Jim Carrey.

farsighted on March 28, 2013 at 8:58 PM

I haven’t forgotten about Ambassador Stevens.

Obama has.

fogw on March 28, 2013 at 5:40 PM

Brian Terry is unavailable for comment!

belad on March 28, 2013 at 9:09 PM

Every time Obama requests we contact our representatives in congress I immediately send an email. There are plenty of Obamabots eagerly responding to his calls for action. We have to respond also. The goal should be to have every Senator and Representative receive at least two contacts opposing each Obamabot cry for gun control.

D.L.Mc on March 28, 2013 at 9:10 PM

Allahpundit Demagogues JUST the way OBAMA TELLS HIM TO!!!

williamg on March 28, 2013 at 9:16 PM

The Republicans had better sit down and get their messaging right on this one because Pravda and Izvestia are going to throw the kitchen sink at them on this.

I heard and interview with Rand Paul tonight and his short message is just perfect, he said he’s willing to pass any legislation that he feels would have done something to prevent the gun tragedies. He said that nothing being proposed, in the Senate, would have prevented Newtown and he’s not willing to restrict peoples 2nd Amendment rights if the bill doesn’t deal with the problem.

Let the games begin because it’s going to be an all-out war with every liberal organization on the planet attacking the poor little Republican Party.

bflat879 on March 28, 2013 at 9:44 PM

HE is the American God of Gods…….above the law and creator of all good and purity.

Has their EVER been a bigger ego in the White House?

He is the DOTUS 24/7/365.

PappyD61 on March 28, 2013 at 9:56 PM

Remember when the Left hated on Bush 43 for his many sins…..his “unilateral actions” fer example?

Good times.

PappyD61 on March 28, 2013 at 10:09 PM

The real problem:

“It is not, however, just handguns that must be discussed when discussing gun violence. This gets to why we cannot have a meaningful conversation in this country and never will. To do so will get you branded a racist.”

“Blacks were disproportionately represented as both homicide victims and offenders. The victimization rate for blacks (27.8 per 100,000) was 6 times higher than the rate for whites (4.5 per 100,000). The offending rate for blacks (34.4 per 100,000) was almost 8 times higher than the rate for whites (4.5 per 100,000).”
“Males represented 77% of homicide victims and nearly 90% of offenders. The victimization rate for males (11.6 per 100,000) was 3 times higher than the rate for females (3.4 per 100,000). The offending rate for males (15.1 per 100,000) was almost 9 times higher than the rate for females (1.7 per 100,000).”

“Approximately a third (34%) of murder victims and almost half (49%) of the offenders were under age 25. For both victims and offenders, the rate per 100,000 peaked in the 18 to 24 year-old age group at 17.1 victims per 100,000 and 29.3 offenders per 100,000.”
This information is from a 2011 United States Department of Justice report released by Obama.

Also, there were over 15,000 cases of felons and others not eligible to purchase firearms but the DOJ only prosecuted 44.

Common Sense on March 28, 2013 at 10:11 PM

And yet JEB BUSH says Obama has a heart for kids!!!

Crown Prince Jeb even goes on to praise Arne Duncan and all they are trying to do to FEDERALIZE Education (Common Core for example).

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-06-07/entertainment/os-jeb-bush-praises-obama-20120607_1_jeb-bush-president-obama-latino-voters

PappyD61 on March 28, 2013 at 10:15 PM

Conservatives that are smart have their own “Assault weapons”…..their called iPads, tablets, phones and other digital devices that spread the warnings of what these Progressive rulers want to do to us…….

Using these 21st century digital assault weapons can be a whole lot more effective, and can spread the message to remote corners of the country and globe.

Doubt me? Post a picture of the Tank man from 1989 China on Instagram and hashtag it #shanghai #beijing or other cities in remote China.

Use these weapons wisely fellow warriors…….but USE THEM!

PappyD61 on March 28, 2013 at 10:23 PM

HE is the American God of Gods…….above the law and creator of all good and purity.

PappyD61 on March 28, 2013 at 9:56 PM

Any day now I fully expect him to say something along the lines of “you know, when Christ was on that cross, he had a small sense about what I have to deal with every day.”

Happy Nomad on March 28, 2013 at 10:25 PM

Shame on the citizens of the United States for electing this pos.

maryo on March 28, 2013 at 10:40 PM

If we had just had an armed schoolteacher…it could have saved one life…or maybe quite a few more.

ProfShadow on March 28, 2013 at 10:43 PM

Ha! You can’t fool me, Mr. President! You HAVE no shame!

flataffect on March 28, 2013 at 11:08 PM

scalleywag on March 28, 2013 at 5:28 PM

Presidentin’ is harrrrdddddd.

III/0317

dirtengineer on March 28, 2013 at 11:19 PM

Shame on everyone who voted for this fraud to be president. What a disgusting man.

driguana on March 28, 2013 at 11:31 PM

Obama has changed my outlook. I’ll never see this country in the same light again.

claudius on March 28, 2013 at 11:40 PM

If we had just had an armed schoolteacher…it could have saved one life…or maybe quite a few more.

ProfShadow on March 28, 2013 at 10:43 PM

Yup.
And I’ll keep saying it over and over: the New Life Church shooting in Colorado Springs did NOT qualify as a mass shooting because only 2 people (teenage girls) died – in the parking lot. An armed volunteer security guard with a CCW shot the attcker in the lobby when he entered the church and stopped the attack. If not for Jeanne Assam and her CCW, possibly hundreds could have been killed.

dentarthurdent on March 28, 2013 at 11:50 PM

If we had just had an armed schoolteacher…it could have saved one life…or maybe quite a few more.

ProfShadow on March 28, 2013 at 10:43 PM

Yup.
And I’ll keep saying it over and over: the New Life Church shooting in Colorado Springs did NOT qualify as a mass shooting because only 2 people (teenage girls) died – in the parking lot. An armed volunteer security guard with a CCW shot the attcker in the lobby when he entered the church and stopped the attack. If not for Jeanne Assam and her CCW, possibly hundreds could have been killed.

dentarthurdent on March 28, 2013 at 11:50 PM

Gun free zones KILL people!!!

dentarthurdent on March 28, 2013 at 11:51 PM

“Shame on us if we’ve forgotten… I haven’t forgotten those kids. Shame on us if we’ve forgotten.”
- President Barack Obama

You mean like how you forgot the hundreds of innocent Mexicans killed with guns supplied to Mexican cartels by the US Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms, Mr. President?

Alberta_Patriot on March 29, 2013 at 12:43 AM

Shameless Attention Whore talks about shaming.

Cue the laugh track.

profitsbeard on March 29, 2013 at 2:31 AM

Right Mr. President ‘it’s for the children’ … everything is for the children including our massive debt burden created by the confederacy of dunces in DC.

kregg on March 29, 2013 at 6:05 AM

That long dramatic pause…are you f-ing kidding me? Is he our disappointed parent?

tdarrington on March 29, 2013 at 6:17 AM

Let’s not forget, universal background checks require universal registration. Government registration always requires a fee. They can set the fee at $100/year/gun. Guns, not technically illegal, just too expensive to keep. Is it really worth it to keep paying for grandpa’s old shotgun? Let’s just surrender it to police.

Part of the fee will go to a victim’s compensation fund…for the chiiiildruuuuuuunnnn. The other part will go to further militarize the local police to protect against the violent, unpredictable assault weapons.

tdarrington on March 29, 2013 at 6:22 AM

That long dramatic pause…are you f-ing kidding me? Is he our disappointed parent?

tdarrington on March 29, 2013 at 6:17 AM

Well I don’t know about you but the effing rat-eared bastard isn’t my daddy. I hate the man completely. He his racist bitch of a wife and the mini-moochers could be wiped out tomorrow and it wouldn’t even phase me.

Happy Nomad on March 29, 2013 at 7:48 AM

Yeah, its a shame we did not impose more gun control BEFORE….

o The Obama administration gave thousands of guns and grenades to Mexican Drug Cartel members. resul;ting in the deaths of over 300 citizens (and counting), to include a US Border Patrol Agent…..

o Obama GAVE $2 Billion worth of military weapons – 24 F-16s & 200 tanks – to the Muslim Brotherhood, the same terrorist group that allowed and participated in the attack on our Embassy in Cairo on 9/11/12…

o The Obama administration assisted Al Qaeda-backed rebels take over Libya, refused to protect the thousands of shoulder-launched surface to air rockets…which fell into terrorists hands…and those rockets were used to murder Ambassador Stevens and have been found now in Gaza & Egypt.

I am all for gun control – controlling the Obama administration’s/governmemnt’s ‘use’/handling of weapons, to include gathering billions of rounds of ammo….

easyt65 on March 29, 2013 at 8:07 AM

Soooooooo…ole Maximum Leader is bummin that his approval ratings are tanking. Time for more cow bell.

Good lawd I wish that jack@ass would get out of my face.

Ya know, I stood in line 1/2 hour before the polls opened to vote against “The Messiah”. If crawling across broken glass would have been necessary, I’d have done that too to cast my vote against Obama. How the hell did Romney blow it? How did he manage to turn out less of the base than McCain? Was it by laying back in the 2nd and 3rd debate that turned them off? WTF?

olesparkie on March 29, 2013 at 8:31 AM

The long and the short of it is this: He hates us because we are in his way, and spends his time in committee with fellow Marxists who will do anything to grab power. They do not consider themselves to be hypocrites, they are just trying, by any means possible, to rule the world. There is no leadership, only the purposeful advancement of tyranny.

InTheBellyoftheBeast on March 29, 2013 at 8:38 AM

I refused to fall for the Commie in Chief trying to shame me into giving up my God (Guya) Given Rights! I am old, I hurt everyday, but this country has given me a wonderful life, I will go down fighting!

rgranger on March 29, 2013 at 8:45 AM

How far we’ve fallen…from Silent Cal to Won’t Shut His Trap Baracky.

jangle12 on March 29, 2013 at 8:48 AM

It’s early, the coffee hasn’t kicked in yet, but is Dear Leader sporting a ponytail (a la Beyoncé) in that pic? Is it meant to keep pressure on the Supremes (the robed ones not Motown) regarding the redefinition of marriage?

I picked a bad week to switch to half decaf…

Fallon on March 29, 2013 at 8:53 AM

And… Pivot!

Fallon on March 29, 2013 at 8:53 AM

This POS is incredible. And people eat up the $hit he dumps.
It’s amazing what good little commies people are in this country.
People who have never had to live under obvious oppression.
Those soft chains are inviting.
What will you do robots when the chains become hard?

Badger40 on March 29, 2013 at 9:38 AM

This isn’t about giving dems a pass on a vote about AWB, it’s not about the kids, cuz he’s already forgotten about meeting those coffins at Dover so forgetting about stuff like this is easy for him. This is all about the next election and demonizing repubs. I can’t even imagine how libs live each day without feeling some self recrimination, or even a pang of guilt over using the misfortune of others to push a political agenda. How cold hearted they are.

Kissmygrits on March 29, 2013 at 9:39 AM

This guy is despicable.

rplat on March 29, 2013 at 9:39 AM

Blood- The tool of the rats.

CW on March 29, 2013 at 9:46 AM

Shame on us for re-electing this POS.

BetseyRoss on March 29, 2013 at 10:01 AM

Textbook O. First, almost obligatorily, the speech is built on the assumption that his opponents are callous to the point of malignancy.

An assumption which is clearly true.

If the slaughter of 26 school children and staff cannot move the Republicans to make even the slightest changes in our gun laws, then they are clearly indifferent about what happened in Newtown et al, in relation to their zeal to kowtow to the NRA.

Re-election means more to them (and some Democrats) than taking any meaningful action to head off the inevitable next mass shooting.

Read the transcript and you’ll see that he’s all but given up arguing policy on this; it’s a straight-up, 13-minute-long guilt trip,

What else is he supposed to say in the face of heedless intransigence? Gun fetishists won’t even agree to banning high-capacity magazines, let alone banning military-style assault weapons. Even something as generally agreed on as universal background checks and punishing straw gun purchases will be targeted for filibuster.

It’s the gun people who have given up arguing policy…they won’t even engage the issue except to chant “they want to take away our guns!” If the President is reduced to guilt-tripping, it’s because the fear mongering of the gun lobby has been so effective at cowing the Republicans.

In the meantime, the next Adam Lanza, with a personal arsenal of high-powered rifles and thousands of rounds of ammunition, waits for his chance to commit the next atrocity.

chumpThreads on March 29, 2013 at 10:01 AM

Any day now I fully expect him to say something along the lines of “you know, when Christ was on that cross, he had a small sense about what I have to deal with every day.”

“You know, if I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon been like Jesus.”

hawkeye54 on March 29, 2013 at 10:29 AM

6 months later:
“Shame on us for not having loaded up the cattle cars already.”

Dunedainn on March 29, 2013 at 11:17 AM

We all have to remember what’s really going on here. Who gets hurt the most if the truth about the BATF operation that contributed to the deaths of hundreds of Mexican citizens gets exposed?

AG Eric Holder, an African-American.

Who gets hurt the most if Ogabe gets his way on guns?

The largely white “bitter clingers” that Obambi and his Svengali of stupid, Reverend Jeremiah “Kill Whitey” Wright hate so damn much.

This is pure racism from the president. It’s all about the color of peoples skin with him. He’s willing to wage war on millions of law abiding Americans because they don’t look like him. While at the same time he’s willing to cover for an official in his administration aiding and abetting large scale acts of terrorism against a neighboring friendly country because, as the president himself would say “If i had an Attorney General, he’d look like Trayvon Martin“.

Barack Hussein Obama is the most racist and racially divisive American political leader since Jefferson Davis (and twice as treasonous).

Alberta_Patriot on March 29, 2013 at 3:34 PM

What else is he supposed to say in the face of heedless intransigence? Gun fetishists won’t even agree to banning high-capacity magazines, let alone banning military-style assault weapons. Even something as generally agreed on as universal background checks and punishing straw gun purchases will be targeted for filibuster.

It’s the gun people who have given up arguing policy…they won’t even engage the issue except to chant “they want to take away our guns!” If the President is reduced to guilt-tripping, it’s because the fear mongering of the gun lobby has been so effective at cowing the Republicans.

In the meantime, the next Adam Lanza, with a personal arsenal of high-powered rifles and thousands of rounds of ammunition, waits for his chance to commit the next atrocity.

chumpThreads on March 29, 2013 at 10:01 AM

Shall not be infringed.

Go to hell you godless f**k

tom daschle concerned on March 29, 2013 at 7:36 PM

God bless the Founders…we’d already be slaves to the Marxists if not for their brilliance.

cajunpatriot on March 31, 2013 at 4:57 PM

Shame on B.O. for tap dancing in the pool of blood left behind by murdered children.

JackM on April 2, 2013 at 8:08 AM

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