Of course: Big labor puts a positive spin on WI recall results

posted at 2:06 pm on June 7, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

I suppose there isn’t really much else he can say — ‘Hey guys, the once-unassailable machine of big labor just took a huge beating’ isn’t really going to fly — but it’s just so pathetically, painfully transparent. The Wisconsin recall has got ‘em on the run, and they know it:

“Last night’s results were not what we had hoped for, but this was not the end of the story but rather the beginning,” said Richard Trumka, president of the AFL-CIO, the country’s largest federation of unions, in a press call on Wednesday. …

Trumka, who was joined on the call by AFL-CIO political director Mike Podhorzer and Guy Molyneux of the polling firm Hart Research Associates, reiterated the difficulties faced by the Democrats in Wisconsin:  Walker’s fundraising advantage, the low favorability for recall elections in general. But ultimately, they said, the take-away from the recall was a positive one for labor.

“Even though a majority of voters said they believe recalls are only appropriate for misconduct, Walker needed every last dime and every last divisive TV ad to maintain a weakened hold on his office…. The new model that Wisconsin’s working families have built won’t go away, it will only grow,” said Trumka.

Whichever way Mr. Trumka tries to spin it, the reality is unions are likely in for a future of at least somewhat curtailed political clout — it only takes a spark. If it can happen in Wisconsin, more states may start looking to cutting benefits and bargaining rights from public-sector unions as a way to balance budgets, and it looks like overall union membership may be slackening a bit. The WSJ has more:

New figures show that membership in the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees—one of the nation’s largest and most politically powerful unions—is declining across the country. …

Afscme membership in Wisconsin fell 45% after a law pushed by Gov. Scott Walker made membership optional. While some of the decline was due to layoffs, much of it came after the state stopped collecting union dues from paychecks. …

Afscme saw membership drops in other states that are politically important and tend to be labor-friendly. In the 12 months ended in February, Ohio’s membership fell 8.5%, Pennsylvania’s dropped 3.4% and Michigan’s declined 11.7%. In California, membership rose 2%.

Coming public-sector union battles are expected in a range of states, including Michigan, New Hampshire, Florida, New Jersey and Pennsylvania. In many cases, the initiatives aimed at trimming union rights or benefits wouldn’t be as far-reaching as Gov. Walker’s. Some political experts say that could help the new efforts pass more easily.


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“I meant to let that skinny kid kick my ass!” – Bully

CurtZHP on June 7, 2012 at 2:08 PM

…pr!ck!

KOOLAID2 on June 7, 2012 at 2:09 PM

first in…….my head is spinning tooo much with all the dims spin control

DiabloAzure on June 7, 2012 at 2:09 PM

Whichever way Mr. Trumka tries to spin it, the reality is unions are likely in for a future of at least somewhat curtailed political clout — it only takes a spark.

Over at AoS, they make a compelling argument that public unions are heading for more than just “curtailed” clout.

Rebar on June 7, 2012 at 2:10 PM

Trumka=irrelevant.

JimboHoffa on June 7, 2012 at 2:11 PM

If you’re going to do it incrementally, step one should always be for the state to stop collecting dues for the union. A, how can unions defend that?, and B, it immediately reduces their funding and therefore their power.

BuzzCrutcher on June 7, 2012 at 2:12 PM

Denial ain’t just a river…

kingsjester on June 7, 2012 at 2:13 PM

Could someone check and see if Trumka and his fellow union leaders golden parachutes have grown in the last 48 hours. They have to see the writing on the wall.

meci on June 7, 2012 at 2:14 PM

I believe more people voted in the WI recall election than in the general election in 2010. And, Walker won by more points this time than last. It is the unions that burned through a massive amount of cash to support the recall and the tantrums rallies. Truth is, this was a big win for the GOP and the taxpayers and an ever-so-sweet smackdown of Big Dick Trumpka and the unions.

HoosierStateofMind on June 7, 2012 at 2:15 PM

All it takes is one domino tipping over…

AubieJon on June 7, 2012 at 2:15 PM

“Last night’s results were not what we had hoped for, but this was not the end of the story but rather the beginning,” said Richard Trumka, president of the AFL-CIO, the country’s largest federation of unions, in a press call on Wednesday. …

Hate to be a stick in the mud, but he’s right in one respect. This is far from the end. We would all be well served to understand that they will not go quietly. Think injured animal. They’re going to get more and more desperate and we had better be prepared.

Lost in Jersey on June 7, 2012 at 2:15 PM

The era of the unions controlling government and spending us all into bankruptcy is ending.

dogsoldier on June 7, 2012 at 2:15 PM

Reagan would be so proud…

OmahaConservative on June 7, 2012 at 2:17 PM

The Left’s Epic Crash & Burn

http://predicthistunpredictpast.blogspot.com/2012/06/lefts-epic-crash-burn.html

M2RB: 3 Doors Down

After Wisconsin: Denial Ain’t Just A River In Egypt

http://predicthistunpredictpast.blogspot.com/2012/06/after-wisconsin-denial-aint-just-river.html

M2RB: Ozzy Osbourne

“I will tell you I’m OK, but deep inside I’m afraid.
I don’t drink holy water, I’m not a son of Christ.
I ain’t no Black Messiah, and I don’t load my dice.
You can tell me you’re all right, but why you so afraid?
You’re in denial, you never will believe it’s you.
Denial, you always hide behind the truth.
You’ll never believe it, you never believe it’s you.”

- Denial, Ozzmosis, 1995

Resist We Much on June 7, 2012 at 2:18 PM

The one thing all states should do is prohibit the mandatory payment of union dues based on one’s place of employment.

Even in the UK that is explicitly illegal for goodness sake…

It is analagus to a poll tax.

CorporatePiggy on June 7, 2012 at 2:18 PM

Afscme saw membership drops in other states that are politically important and tend to be labor-friendly. In the 12 months ended in February, Ohio’s membership fell 8.5%, Pennsylvania’s dropped 3.4% and Michigan’s declined 11.7%. In California, membership rose 2%.

[sigh] There’s no hope for that state.

Doughboy on June 7, 2012 at 2:22 PM

Trumka’s first name isn’t Dick for nothing.

DevilsPrinciple on June 7, 2012 at 2:23 PM

Maybe we should start calling them Vertically Challenged Labor.

FruitedPlain on June 7, 2012 at 2:23 PM


Last night’s results were not what we had hoped for, but this was not the end of the story but rather the beginning,” said Richard Trumka, president of the AFL-CIO, the country’s largest federation of unions, in a press call on Wednesday. …

so all you union guys send us MORE money that we can spend on Dems in other elections in other states ….

we spent tons here and lost … we need more … send it ….

conservative tarheel on June 7, 2012 at 2:25 PM

If this is what Big Labor wants may they get more and more of it.

wildcat72 on June 7, 2012 at 2:26 PM

“Last night’s results were not what we had hoped for, but this was not the end of the story but rather the beginning,”

This has to be the third time he’s said this about Wisconsin in the last year. And it’s been at least $25 million ago as well. Keep after it Trumka…what’s that? Michigan dropped the recall of Snyder? you don’t say!

DanMan on June 7, 2012 at 2:27 PM

Trumka’s first name isn’t Dick for nothing.

DevilsPrinciple on June 7, 2012 at 2:23 PM

Do you think there’s any truth to that rumor that I just started that his last name was Cabeza before he had it changed? Richard cabeza?

Oldnuke on June 7, 2012 at 2:27 PM

This guy is the answer to the age old question “Who cut the cheese?”

50sGuy on June 7, 2012 at 2:28 PM

And after the German’s Ardennes Offensive was stopped at Bastogne in the Battle of the Bulge, they said that should teach the Allies a lesson.

jimw on June 7, 2012 at 2:28 PM

The era of the unions controlling government and spending us all into bankruptcy is ending.

dogsoldier on June 7, 2012 at 2:15 PM

Not yet. The biggest problem when it comes to public unions are existing obligations. When a city or state has already committed to paying retirees absurd benefits (see yesterday’s HA article), there’s no legal path of escape. Cutting the benefits of current employees hardly fixes the problem of existing windfall benefits.

The only way to address this larger problem- because you can’t alter previous employee agreements- is a federal law that enables states to tax state employees’ pension checks. But because it’s a new tax, it will be hard to garner support even in the GOP.

bayam on June 7, 2012 at 2:29 PM

Walker needed every last dime and every last divisive TV ad to maintain a weakened hold on his office

This is just flat-out dishonest. While Barrett got ~45k more votes than he did in 2010, Walker (the last time I remember checking this) had ~133k more votes than he got in 2010. Walker isn’t weakened, he’s actually stronger than he was, vote-wise, than he was 2 years ago.

joejm65 on June 7, 2012 at 2:29 PM

[sigh] There’s no hope for that state.

Doughboy on June 7, 2012 at 2:22 PM

That’s the darkness before dawn Doughboy. Sans Diego and Jose tells you that. Remember we need the strength that used to be California’s economy as we restore our nation.

DanMan on June 7, 2012 at 2:30 PM

“Even though a majority of voters said they believe recalls are only appropriate for misconduct, Walker needed every last dime and every last divisive TV ad to maintain a weakened hold on his office….

So he won by a margin that when Obama had it we called a “blowout”.

He required every dime to manage holding on to his blowout?

Sure he did.

gekkobear on June 7, 2012 at 2:31 PM

“Even though a majority of voters said they believe recalls are only appropriate for misconduct, Walker needed every last dime and every last divisive TV ad to maintain a weakened hold on his office….

Walker got nearly a quarter of a million MORE votes last Tuesday than he did in the normally-scheduled Gubernatorial election in 2010–how has Walker’s hold on his office been “weakened”?

If anything, Scott Walker has a strong new voters’ mandate to continue his reforms through 2014!

Steve Z on June 7, 2012 at 2:31 PM

Do you think there’s any truth to that rumor that I just started that his last name was Cabeza before he had it changed? Richard cabeza?

Oldnuke on June 7, 2012 at 2:27 PM

Nope, don’t think he’s Hispanic. Original surname was probably something Germanic, like “Kopf“.

Mary in LA on June 7, 2012 at 2:33 PM

Trumka and Sheen…WINNING!!!!

kbTexan on June 7, 2012 at 2:34 PM

This is just flat-out dishonest. While Barrett got ~45k more votes than he did in 2010, Walker (the last time I remember checking this) had ~133k more votes than he got in 2010. Walker isn’t weakened, he’s actually stronger than he was, vote-wise, than he was 2 years ago.

joejm65 on June 7, 2012 at 2:29 PM

That was the meme the LSM was hoping to go with, had Walker gotten fewer votes than he did in 2010. You could hear them collectively scream “DAMMIT!” when the final totals came out.

wildcat72 on June 7, 2012 at 2:34 PM

bayam on June 7, 2012 at 2:29 PM

Wrong on so many levels bayam.

1) We try to negotiate with what is available, or
2) File bankruptcy. Since cities and states can’t run deficits by law so the only losers are the ones that thought they had the golden parachute.
3) reality hits and we file bankruptcy

Your move.

DanMan on June 7, 2012 at 2:35 PM

In California, membership rose 2%.

California is Greece on the Pacific…

PatriotRider on June 7, 2012 at 2:37 PM

Actually, I was hoping I’d get caught. Best thing that ever happened to me. – Bernie Madoff

tommyboy on June 7, 2012 at 2:37 PM

The biggest problem when it comes to public unions are existing obligations. When a city or state has already committed to paying retirees absurd benefits (see yesterday’s HA article), there’s no legal path of escape.

bayam on June 7, 2012 at 2:29 PM

Sure there is. It’s called BANKRUPTCY or “THE CHEQUE IS NOT IN THE MAIL” and it is already happening.

Cities and states don’t have printing presses and you can’t get blood out of a turnip. When the money runs out, it runs out and there’s nothing you can do about it. You Progs really should have paid attention to the Iron Lady…

Resist We Much on June 7, 2012 at 2:37 PM

If you’re going to do it incrementally, step one should always be for the state to stop collecting dues for the union. A, how can unions defend that?, and B, it immediately reduces their funding and therefore their power.

BuzzCrutcher on June 7, 2012 at 2:12 PM

Excellent point! AFSCME membership fell much faster in WI than in MI, OH, and PA. Once the automatic dues collection stops, union members who oppose the union’s political stance (about 38% in Wisconsin) will drop out, reducing the funds available for political influence.

This might have to be Gov. Kasich’s Plan B in Ohio, where his original plan was voted down in a referendum (a yes-no ballot question, as opposed to a recall election).

Steve Z on June 7, 2012 at 2:40 PM

Walker needed every last dime and every last divisive TV ad to maintain a weakened hold on his office

Uh, Dick? Walker won with a larger margin than he did in the original election in 2010. The hold is stronger, and WI voters have confimed that they like what he is doing.

Union membership, on the other hand, is cratering now that membership is optional. Poor sad little commie.

iurockhead on June 7, 2012 at 2:40 PM

Cities and states don’t have printing presses and you can’t get blood out of a turnip.

But they can get a “stimulus bill” out of Congress. Or at least they used to be able to.

tommyboy on June 7, 2012 at 2:41 PM

Trumka=constipated.

I mean look at that pic… doesn’t he look like he needs to take a big dump?

maintenanceman on June 7, 2012 at 2:41 PM

every last divisive TV ad

Ad to your base, or negative ad from a liberal side: Informative

Ad to your base, or negative ad from a conservative: Divisive.

Only liberals are allowed to rip their opponents, because they are so morally pure, you know?

The hypocrisy!

PastorJon on June 7, 2012 at 2:43 PM

I can see Trumka sitting around a smoke filled room with fellow union goons…

… frantically flipping back and forth the Left/Liberal/Democrat/Union two page play book.

Sweat dripping from the double chins…

… the smell of panic filling the room, as eyes gaze on page one, then two, then back to one, then again to two.

Any ideas?”, Trumka asks…

… the only answer the room could offer, “GOON!” they screeched, “GOOOOOON!!!”

Seven Percent Solution on June 7, 2012 at 2:44 PM

Democrat losses = good!

They should pray that Obama loses, because that would mean the glorious triumph of the proletariat, the eternal defeat of the bourgeoisie, and the inauguration of the Great Worker’s Paradise.

Greek Fire on June 7, 2012 at 2:46 PM

But they can get a “stimulus bill” out of Congress. Or at least they used to be able to.

tommyboy on June 7, 2012 at 2:41 PM

Yep.

FYI (not for you, necessarily, tommyboy): By law, states cannot file bankruptcy. They just stop paying. Only cities, counties, municipalities, etc., can.

Resist We Much on June 7, 2012 at 2:49 PM

Afscme membership in Wisconsin fell 45% after a law pushed by Gov. Scott Walker made membership optional. While some of the decline was due to layoffs, much of it came after the state stopped collecting union dues from paychecks. …

Union membership isn’t that popular, ask the rank and file why and the general anser is, they hold me (good employee’s) back with senority rules, and various crony type deals. Also, the only people they ever seem to help are the dead beats, the lazy, the worthless.. that destroys work force moral when the least effective workers get shielded and coddled by the union, while hard workers are ridiculed and told to stop making the rest (the slackers) look bad. The company can’t, or the government service you work for,.. can’t reward good help, because the union will whine about how unfair it is…

That good work is rewarded, is bad?

Unions say it is..

That’s why many of us hated them. I had a boss tell me they would gladly pay me an extra couple of dollars an hour, but the usual malcontents would cry to the union if they found out.. and they always did, since a steward was in the office sorting paychecks… that should have been stopped there, it’s not the unions business to peek into your files, and see who is paid what.

They operate like the Russian mob.

mark81150 on June 7, 2012 at 2:54 PM

How are you doing “Puppy”? Did it HURT?

antisocial on June 7, 2012 at 2:54 PM

When Bary “The Destroyer” Obama loses in a landslide it will because his polices were so popular.

jukin3 on June 7, 2012 at 2:55 PM

If big labor does not start voluntarily taking less in pay and benefits the voters are going to come along and do it for them. What labor gets from a ballot initiative or politicians swept in on anti-union sentiment will be far worse.

Had Democrats not ran and union employees took less pay and benefits they could have traded that for forced dues collection. Now they have nothing, and their entire infrastructure is in ashes, in the state with the longest history of public employee unions.

Unions suing against reforms passed by voters, as in San Diego are only going to lose more goodwill and voters will not care when another ballot initiative cuts even more pay and benefits. Their lawsuit is only going to make Carl DeMaio all the more popular. Hell they are practically electing him mayor as a protest vote.

Theworldisnotenough on June 7, 2012 at 3:00 PM

he biggest problem when it comes to public unions are existing obligations. When a city or state has already committed to paying retirees absurd benefits (see yesterday’s HA article), there’s no legal path of escape. Cutting the benefits of current employees hardly fixes the problem of existing windfall benefits.

The only way to address this larger problem- because you can’t alter previous employee agreements- is a federal law that enables states to tax state employees’ pension checks. But because it’s a new tax, it will be hard to garner support even in the GOP.

bayam on June 7, 2012 at 2:29 PM

You are talking about 2 different things though. Most states’ local and state pension systems are defined by state law, not union contract. So, you are correct that the pension bomb that is coming when all the boomers retire at 60% or higher FAS is going to be a nightmare.

But, getting rid of PEU’s makes hiring, firing, easier and allows states/municipalities to require employees to pay a higher percentage of health care benefits (the biggest cost driver). Most states/municipalities have employees paying 10% of such costs, while in the private sector it is around 50%. It also allows the states/municipalities the option to pick cheaper plans, etc.

And, Health Care Coverage for retirees is usually covered by CBA and most CBA’s usually provide that the employer has to offer the retiree whatever the current employees are getting. So, that is a huge savings in terms of retiree benefits as well (there are, of course exceptions – CBAs that lock the retiree into one set plan at a set contribution from the retiree).

Those are enormous savings. Plus the savings in not spending the man-hours and legal fees in dealing with PEUs.

And we haven’t even gotten to salaries. So, while you make a decent point, this is still of enormous benefit to state and local gov’ts.

Monkeytoe on June 7, 2012 at 3:00 PM

Dick, In the interest of sorting things out so they go better next time, may I suggest: a. ask you street people to clean up, just a bit, and curse less for the cameras, b. try a little love, your guys looked like they wanted to kick the shi_ out of everybody, c. get some better chants, and try a little class in you signs, c. ask all screeching, aferican american congress women to not help so much. Dick, you guys have earned a very bad public image. You look like the archtyple THUG, your members define groundlings (look it up). For years, most of the country hasn’t like you, and now like you even less. The fire’s started.

StevC on June 7, 2012 at 3:02 PM

I wonder if didn’t have some serious motion sickness problems after all that spinning :)..

jimver on June 7, 2012 at 3:02 PM

I wonder if Tumka didn’t have….that is…

jimver on June 7, 2012 at 3:02 PM

The new model that Wisconsin’s working families have built won’t go away, it will only grow,” said Trumka.

I agree. And the model is that working families will no longer be held hostage by unions.

ButterflyDragon on June 7, 2012 at 3:03 PM

Levity aside, beware of cornered Leftists.

ConservativeLA on June 7, 2012 at 3:04 PM

Yes, the “weakened hold” that saw Walker up his victory margin over the self-same sockpuppet run against him in the general election in 2010.

PJ Emeritus on June 7, 2012 at 3:05 PM

But, getting rid of PEU’s makes hiring, firing, easier and allows states/municipalities to require employees to pay a higher percentage of health care benefits (the biggest cost driver). Most states/municipalities have employees paying 10% of such costs, while in the private sector it is around 50%. It also allows the states/municipalities the option to pick cheaper plans, etc.

As an example – if you are a small City with 200 municipal employees and your health care plan is $10,000 per year, changing the employees’ contribution from 10% to 50% equals a $900,000 savings per year. So, a state, with 100,000 employees is going to save 1/2 billion a year. Just in health care costs.

Once you add in the efficiency that gov’t will obtain w/o the PEUs, plus savings in salaries, plus being able to get rid of entire departments that heretofore existed solely to deal with union issues, you are talking about unbelievable savings.

Monkeytoe on June 7, 2012 at 3:08 PM

THUG!
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KOOLAID2 on June 7, 2012 at 3:08 PM

Barrett for Governor – 2014 /s

barnone on June 7, 2012 at 3:12 PM

but this was not the end of the story but rather the beginning,” said Richard Trumka

Yeah, the BEGINNING of THE END.

GarandFan on June 7, 2012 at 3:15 PM

Try this on for spin…

Holder Claims Emails Using Words ‘Fast and Furious’ Don’t Refer to Operation Fast and Furious…

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/holder-claims-emails-using-words-fast-and-furious-don-t-refer-operation-fast-and

**eyeroll*

Resist We Much on June 7, 2012 at 3:22 PM

Wisconsin should pass a law that requires the recall petition filer to post bond equal to the cost of the government’s election expenses (but will only have to pay if they lose the recall). That way, recalls will only be used when a politician pulls a Caligula or engages in misconduct, preserving the spirit and purpose of the mechanism while deterring its abuse.

blammm on June 7, 2012 at 3:22 PM

mark81150 on June 7, 2012 at 2:54 PM

Amen!

smylatu on June 7, 2012 at 3:27 PM

Holder Claims Emails Using Words ‘Fast and Furious’ Don’t Refer to Operation Fast and Furious…

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/holder-claims-emails-using-words-fast-and-furious-don-t-refer-operation-fast-and

**eyeroll*

Resist We Much on June 7, 2012 at 3:22 PM

We’re so fortunate that we have such educated public servants. It costs a lot of money to learn to think that way.

talkingpoints on June 7, 2012 at 3:32 PM

Romney/Walker 2012.

I also had a little fun with some ideas for the Walker campaign.

Governor Scott ‘IRONMAN’ Walker ( cue Black Sabbath cut).

Governor Scott ‘Sky’ Walker defeats Big Labor ‘Deathstar’.

Governor Scott ‘Cool Hand’ Walker remedies Big Labor’s ‘failure to communicate’.

Governor Scott Walker ends ‘assimilation of The Borg’ AKA Big Labor.

thatsafactjack on June 7, 2012 at 3:44 PM

Sorry…almost forgot…did I mention that henceforth Walker’s negotiating tactics will probably be referred to as ‘The Walker Doctrine’ in dealing with big labor and its demands and threats?

I understand that several states are looking at curbing public union benefits, or renegotiating contracts public union contracts in efforts to balance their budgets. I think they’ve got plenty of incentive now to follow ‘The Walker Doctrine’, too.

thatsafactjack on June 7, 2012 at 3:52 PM

Hey Tumpka from Time magazine:

…Barack Obama faces a grim new reality: Republicans now believe Mitt Romney can win, and Democrats believe Obama can lose … Last week’s anemic job-creation and economic-growth data was sandwiched between two Bill Clinton specials: in one television interview, the 42nd President lauded Romney’s business record as “sterling”; in another, he veered from the Obama line on the extension of Bush-era tax cuts … The failure to unseat Wisconsin’s Republican governor Scott Walker in a recall election was another bad sign for Democrats since it will rev up conservatives nationwide…

Fallon on June 7, 2012 at 4:05 PM

They operate like the Russian mob.

mark81150 on June 7, 2012 at 2:54 PM

Yup. Hubby worked as a loader/unloader for UPS in college and got yelled at for finishing up a truck before taking his break. They are insane. Hubby’s work ethic has served him very well in the private sector.

Fallon on June 7, 2012 at 4:08 PM

Propaganda, Goebbels style

Schadenfreude on June 7, 2012 at 4:21 PM

Trumka is right – this is just the beginning. Romney inherits a proven GOTV organization in a swing state that he didn’t have to pay for or lift a finger to setup. But they did swing the Senate that will not meet before the R’s take it back in November.

WINNING!

NeoDawg on June 7, 2012 at 4:23 PM

Everybody kick them while they’re down . (figuratively)

scboy on June 7, 2012 at 4:23 PM

Moby Obama beckons to Captain Trumka. Come hither, come hither with me to the briny deep.

Finbar on June 7, 2012 at 4:27 PM

The biggest problem when it comes to public unions are existing obligations. When a city or state has already committed to paying retirees absurd benefits (see yesterday’s HA article), there’s no legal path of escape.

bayam on June 7, 2012 at 2:29 PM

Resist we much is correct, but there IS another alternative. A common sense approach. Before filing bankruptcy, offer the “retirees” a reduced amount that can be afforded. Something is better than nothing.

Also for future retirees have them contribute to their retirement. Many non union employees working in the private sector do.

dogsoldier on June 7, 2012 at 5:44 PM

Trumka’s first name isn’t Dick for nothing.

DevilsPrinciple on June 7, 2012 at 2:23 PM

Do you think there’s any truth to that rumor that I just started that his last name was Cabeza before he had it changed? Richard cabeza?

Oldnuke on June 7, 2012 at 2:27 PM

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha..I “soytainly” hope so

DevilsPrinciple on June 7, 2012 at 6:07 PM

but this was not the end of the story but rather the beginning,” said Richard Trumka

“We’ve got them right where they want us! We’ll show these sons of bitches how we mean business when we start cracking their nightsticks with our heads!”

tpitman on June 7, 2012 at 6:53 PM

Yeah, keep whistling past the graveyard, Dick.

disa on June 7, 2012 at 7:36 PM

mark81150 on June 7, 2012 at 2:54 PM

You summed up my feeling up right there in a nut shell in that post. In fact, you nailed it for most of my co workers at my place of work. If it were and option in our company, the union would be gone too.

watertown on June 7, 2012 at 9:47 PM

Whichever way Mr. Trumka tries to spin it, the reality is unions are likely in for a future of at least somewhat curtailed political clout — it only takes a spark. – Erika

All it takes is one domino tipping over…
AubieJon on June 7, 2012 at 2:15 PM

They may, indeed, be reaching a tipping point – and it only took one spark from Mrs. O’Leary’s lantern to set Chicago on fire.

Although that story was a fiction too, as it turns out.

On the flag of Chicago, the second star commemorates the fire.[2] The exact cause was never determined. The popular account dreamed up by a reporter, attributing it to Mrs. Catherine O’Leary and her cow, survived his confession of fiction in 1893.

Why is it that reporters and facts just can’t get along with each other?

AesopFan on June 7, 2012 at 10:13 PM