Howard Dean: Walker’s win is the “beginning of the undermining of American democracy”

posted at 5:21 pm on June 6, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

Former DNC chairman and governor of Vermont Howard Dean appeared on MSNBC this morning to bemoan the extent to which Gov. Walker was able to outspend his opponent in the Wisconsin recall. Really, now? Candidate Obama outspent John McCain’s campaign by one of the widest margins evah, but when you don’t get the outcome you want, all that darned money in politics is suddenly not okay?

I think the sad story of the night was the money because this is the beginning of the undermining of American democracy, and this is what you see tonight when you see a guy outspend somebody seven to one with money that nobody knows where it came from.

Ahh, yes. The Koch brothers. There it is.

I would remind any outraged liberals in the audience that evil corporate fat cats gave the Obama campaign booku bucks in 2008 — the Wall Street dollars certainly didn’t favor John McCain that time around. And, by the way, what exactly is President Obama up to today?

It’s D-Day and President Obama is hitting the beaches – of sunny California!

Instead of scheduling a brief event to mark the 68th anniversary of America’s brutal landing on the shores of Normandy, Obama is already on his way to San Francisco, where he will hold two fundraisers before moving on to Beverly Hills to stage two more.

Obama failed to mark D-Day with either a speech or a written proclamation both last year or the year before. He did give a speech in 2009, the 65th anniversary of the event.

After all, what’s a little historical recognition when there are multiple fundraisers to be had?

I can think of an actual way money is undermining our democracy, but I’ll let founding father Benjamin Franklin sum this one up: “When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.” Bam. When the government has become so monstrously huge that rent-seeking, crony capitalism, and pork barrel politics are just the everyday goings-on of the executive and legislative agendas, we’re gonna’ have problems. Oh, wait…


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arrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhh!!!

the new aesthetic on June 6, 2012 at 5:22 PM

In the words of Howard Dean:

YEEEEAAAAAAAHHHHH!

Stoic Patriot on June 6, 2012 at 5:24 PM

Obama and Walker are different because Shut Up.

thebrokenrattle on June 6, 2012 at 5:25 PM

…Democratic John McCain…

KOOLAID2 on June 6, 2012 at 5:25 PM

Another lefty idiot…they just keep crawling out from under the rocks……they would not know democracy if it bit them…..

crosshugger on June 6, 2012 at 5:25 PM

D-Day…that is so yesterday…BHO’s got money to raise with all the swells in CA. Props to Erika…I think you are going to do just fine.

d1carter on June 6, 2012 at 5:25 PM

I thought the end of civilization as we know it was Howie’s hair dye job. Wow. Bet people ask “Who is that college kid?!” huh Howie.

Marcus on June 6, 2012 at 5:26 PM

Tons and tons of money

Incredible. Barack Obama raised a record 3/4 of a billion dollars for his campaign, some of it foreign money.

The depth of hypocrisy of the modern left never ceases to amaze.

Richard Romano on June 6, 2012 at 5:26 PM

Translation: “If we don’t win, it’s the end of democracy.”

And these people take themselves seriously.

novaculus on June 6, 2012 at 5:26 PM

what part of ‘obama broke his pledge and swamped mccain with a massive spending advantage in 2008″ don’t the Dems get?

the taxpayer – government – public union – democrat moneylaundering scheme has got to be destroyed and Wisconsin is just the first step.

DrW on June 6, 2012 at 5:26 PM

So money like free speech and protesting is a one way street for big government totalitarians too.

This is getting to be a pretty long list.

jukin3 on June 6, 2012 at 5:26 PM

blame it on the “evil Kock Bros”…

they are true Americans in their quest to provide “balance”…

now as to Howard Dean, trying to find the [fake] pix of him holding up the cat…

teejk on June 6, 2012 at 5:27 PM

No, we’re only undermining American democrats. There’s a world of difference. Obambi is undermining democracy with his whimsical executive orders and executive-branch policies.

RoadRunner on June 6, 2012 at 5:27 PM

Wake me up when they complain about the money Obama and Soros spend on a campaign.

The Notorious G.O.P on June 6, 2012 at 5:28 PM

Looks like the crying beta from CNN last night started a new meme for the left.

“WAR ON DEMOCRACY, 2012!”

NotCoach on June 6, 2012 at 5:28 PM

Don’t forget the $30 million spent by unions in August of 2011.

Fallon on June 6, 2012 at 5:28 PM

Obama and Walker are different because Shut Up.

thebrokenrattle on June 6, 2012 at 5:25 PM

Well said. That’s pretty much the essence of Liberal Thought.

squint on June 6, 2012 at 5:29 PM

The unions didn’t give directly to Barrett, and thus what they spent was not counted under Barrett’s total. But the unions spent a lot more than Walker did, I’ll tell you that. Again, why can’t liberals just be honest? Why do they have to find some hairsplitting technicality and act like it discredits everything their opponents say?

Sekhmet on June 6, 2012 at 5:29 PM

Not to be redundant, but, YEEEEEEEAAAAAAAARRRRRRRGH!!!!! Those were the first and last intelligent words this bipedal rectum ever uttered. Go away Howard.

waterytart on June 6, 2012 at 5:29 PM

I thought Obama won last night?

So what is this guy complaining about?

tetriskid on June 6, 2012 at 5:29 PM

Oh please, please keep bringing out your old, tired lefty hacks to bemoan the money in politics. Ahh smell that? That’s the delicious hyprocrisy! I haven’t had this much fun since my last vacation. Can we please have Jimmy Carter next? This is just too much fun. After all that these rotten Dems have done to this country over the past 4 years I’m enjoying the angst.

neyney on June 6, 2012 at 5:30 PM

Right, because there was no democracy before public sector labor unions.

princetrumpet on June 6, 2012 at 5:30 PM

Howard Dean?

He went off the rails on the crazy train a long time ago….

http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/multimedia/dean_crazy_train.mp3

Jim M. on June 6, 2012 at 5:30 PM

Dean is a known racist… who cares what he thinks?

malclave on June 6, 2012 at 5:30 PM

It’s D-Day and President Obama is hitting the beaches – of sunny California

Obama failed to mark D-Day with either a speech or a written proclamation both last year or the year before.

…he feels an affinity to D-Day… when he’s in the bunker on the golf course all the time?

KOOLAID2 on June 6, 2012 at 5:31 PM

Dean? Spleen!

MaiDee on June 6, 2012 at 5:31 PM

Howard Dean is a moron, plain and simple

ultracon on June 6, 2012 at 5:33 PM

I can understand why Obama doesn’t really care about D-Day. His family heritage is closely tied to the Red Army and the Eastern Front in Europe, not the Western Allies.

malclave on June 6, 2012 at 5:33 PM

Democrats take the cake on being the sorest losers ever. I can’t imagine what it must be like being a liberal; waking up every day just bitter about the world around you and being perpetually unhappy.

The Notorious G.O.P on June 6, 2012 at 5:34 PM

well Howeird what is it? You said it came from the Koch brothers (who have union operated plants in Wi. btw) and then you said no one knows where the money comes from all in the same statement.

Later the crew was trying to get closer to the what do we do now? phase of the discussion and went on to explore areas of compromise and ‘ol Screaming Dean would have none of it. No compromising with these wingnuts! was his battle cry. They are all over the map with their talking points these dems are.

DanMan on June 6, 2012 at 5:34 PM

No amount of facts will pierce the Liberal talking points today. Just call the Whaaaaaaambulance and be done with it.

GeorgieGirl9 on June 6, 2012 at 5:34 PM

let founding father Benjamin Franklin sum this one up: “When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.”

Founder Ben called it the “republic” which is exactly right. So what if American democracy is undermined–we live in a republic. The thing really being undermined here is the demon-cracy.

stukinIL4now on June 6, 2012 at 5:34 PM

Howard “Jock Itch” Dean is a perfect example of liberalism being a mental disorder. He is about as relevant as using sandpaper for what he is named for…jock itch.

volsense on June 6, 2012 at 5:36 PM

Howard Dean: Walker’s win is the “beginning of the undermining of American democracy”

LOL. Same day registration without any photo id is what “democracy” is all about.

Of course, our Constitution dosn’t mention anything about States being guaranteed Democratic governments, but Republican forms of government – exactly that sort of government that the dems specifically and illegally denied Wisconsin with their fleebagging across state lines (which was supported by the White House, in direct opposition to the responsibilities described in our Constitution).

Democracy is dead. Long live the Constitutional Republic.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 6, 2012 at 5:36 PM

I love the smell of irony in the morning.

MrX on June 6, 2012 at 5:37 PM

Oh, come on. One more scream! BTW, hats off to Erika. Excellent job,

katy the mean old lady on June 6, 2012 at 5:37 PM

What is America to do with these Anti-American dregs like Dean in our Politic? Is it possible these dregs actually believe that America is only politically democratic if their Party wins every time…that is the exact opposite of what they claim to support.

aposematic on June 6, 2012 at 5:38 PM

“..EEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAARRGGGGGGGGGGGGG!”

The War Planner on June 6, 2012 at 5:38 PM

So when ya leave’n for Denmark there Howie?

You never do stop crying, take off to someplace that you might agree with because obviously America isn’t your kind of place.

Here self determination and liberty mean something.

Speakup on June 6, 2012 at 5:39 PM

Candidate Obama outspent John McCain’s campaign by one of the widest margins evah, but when you don’t get the outcome you want, all that darned money in politics is suddenly not okay?

To be fair, Obama did promise libs “the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow, and our planet began to heal”. How can you not vote for that? Do you hate the planet or something?

redzap on June 6, 2012 at 5:39 PM

The unions didn’t give directly to Barrett, and thus what they spent was not counted under Barrett’s total. But the unions spent a lot more than Walker did, I’ll tell you that. Again, why can’t liberals just be honest? Why do they have to find some hairsplitting technicality and act like it discredits everything their opponents say?

Sekhmet on June 6, 2012 at 5:29 PM

There’s no question that it was Walker that was outspent when you count all of Barret’s third party money from labor and other outside groups.

Why, you ask, liberals can’t be honest. Here, it’s simple, they wouldn’t be able to play the class warfare card and blame the corporate fat cats for “buying the election”. They always fall back on that farce when they lose.

In the broad sense, of course, liberalism and honesty cannot ideologically co-exist.

TXUS on June 6, 2012 at 5:40 PM

Their tears are delicious.

FlatFoot on June 6, 2012 at 5:40 PM

Obama failed to mark D-Day with either a speech or a written proclamation both last year or the year before. He did give a speech in 2009, the 65th anniversary of the event.

Oh, the day’s still young — he’ll probably tweet something to solemnly commemorate the occasion, real soon!

Shout out to dday peeps, if i had a great great great grandpa, he’d look just like you. #dday @barackobama

KS Rex on June 6, 2012 at 5:42 PM

the “beginning of the undermining of American democracy”

When you have to go back to the polls less than 2 years after an election in order to send the message ‘why yes, we actually did intend to elect this guy as our governor’, democracy has already been undermined.

Bobbertsan on June 6, 2012 at 5:43 PM

Didn’t Obama outspend McCain about 2:1?

albill on June 6, 2012 at 5:43 PM

Tons and tons of money spent by Unions…unions who took that tons and tons of money from their membership and spent it on this election instead of benefits for their membership.

Democracy was in action. You know, that whole people vote thing. And at least on the Conservative side, one vote per person.

Delusional liars. But hey, that pretty much sums up the whole Democrat party these days.

ProfShadow on June 6, 2012 at 5:44 PM

If they want to hold the campaign again, with no media coverage, no union press gangs pushing people to vote, no mailers, and no ad spending related to the issue, that’s fine.

They’d lose again, by even more.

hawksruleva on June 6, 2012 at 5:44 PM

nice post, EJ

ted c on June 6, 2012 at 5:44 PM

Can anyone here spare a comment or two? We really should get last nights open thread to 3000. I mean we only need 34 comments and we’re there. I’ve waited patiently all day, thinking, its just got to get to 3000, Yet there she sits 34 shy. Come on, what do say. One last victory lap. One last big dance. One last hurrah! Anyhow OT.

Bmore on June 6, 2012 at 5:45 PM

I haven’t been able to stop grinning since last night and my face is hurting…

OmahaConservative on June 6, 2012 at 5:45 PM

Oh, its here.

Bmore on June 6, 2012 at 5:45 PM

100% hypocrisy, these guys shovel money into politics from any and all sources just as fast as they can. you name it corporate money, union money, Hollwood money, and in Obama’s case illegal foreign contributions via credit cards.
But somehow if Republicans pony it up and fight back that is all dirty money and the end of America as we know it. yeah right.
The jig up Howard, you’re side is going down hard, don’t make excuses. you guys simply failed to perform.

exceller on June 6, 2012 at 5:45 PM

I haven’t been able to stop grinning since last night and my face is hurting…

OmahaConservative on June 6, 2012 at 5:45 PM

OC, you could say that very same thing here.

Bmore on June 6, 2012 at 5:46 PM

Some DemocRATs just act stupidly… think of all the sex scandals ‘RAT have been involved in, publicly revealed, from Weiner to Clenis and LBJ before them.
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Some DemocRATs just talk stupidly… think of all the stupid things Ø, Reveum Al, John Dingell, Nanzi Pelosi, Harry Reid, and Maxine Waters have said which have brought them public ridicule.
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Then there is Howard Dean, Medical Doctor graduate of the Alber Einstein College of Medicine who combined acting and talking stupidly, at the same time, in the same breath, and in the same place…. Listen to the unbridled, unvarnished, naked greed.
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And Erika, booku… really? If you are going to misspell it you should at least stick a hyphen between the syllables! It would be beaucoup better!

ExpressoBold on June 6, 2012 at 5:48 PM

and this is what you see tonight when you see a guy outspend somebody seven to one with money that nobody knows where it came from

Dean appears to be having a mental relapse, and is suddenly talking about the Obama campaign of 2008.

GarandFan on June 6, 2012 at 5:49 PM

Erika, great points. One nitpick, if I may?

booku bucks

I know it doesn’t come across in spoken English, and it’s not often written down… but that’s supposed to be “beaucoup”, which is French for “a lot”. Literally, a “good hit”.

OK, I scratched my linguistic itch. Cheers.

Prufrock on June 6, 2012 at 5:49 PM

So, for Howie Wowie, democracy was undermined because 1.33 million Wisconsinites voted to keep their Governor in office?

In reality, the “Citizens United” decision that allowed outside money just leveled the playing field. Unions could coerce their members to pay dues, then give money to political causes their members didn’t necessarily support. When Gov. Walker’s reforms allowed public employees to decide whether or not to pay union dues, about 60% of them dropped out of the union. Suddenly, the political money on both sides is all freely given.

In retrospect, Sen. John McCain, after all his work to limit political contributions, probably would have enjoyed having the kind of money Gov. Scott Walker had to work with, back in 2008 against the Obama money machine.

Instead, McCain worked hard to tie one hand behind his back, with a former Senator named Feingold, who just happened to lose his Senate seat in the same state in the same year that Scott Walker was first elected Governor.

Funny how these things happen! Now, for this year’s Presidential election, Romney might even raise more money than Obuckma himself!

Steve Z on June 6, 2012 at 5:50 PM

Howard Dean: Walker’s win is the “beginning of the undermining of American democracy”

Come on Howard, Democrats not being able to use the power of government to force union dues that will be fed back to the Democrat Party is bad for Democrats, but it’s great news for America as a country.

RJL on June 6, 2012 at 5:51 PM

This coming from a jackass whose maniac yell has become a youtube joke of insanity. Dean is Dope on a Rope.

logicman_1998 on June 6, 2012 at 5:51 PM

Pic of the Day: At Least She’s (?) Honest..

http://predicthistunpredictpast.blogspot.com/2012/06/pic-of-day-at-least-she.html

M2RB: Def Leppard

Resist We Much on June 6, 2012 at 5:51 PM

American democracy is the union-democrat money laundering complex?

tom daschle concerned on June 6, 2012 at 5:52 PM

Yep, fair elections by voters are a clear sign that democracy isn’t working… when you don’t get your way because a majority opposes you.

Clearly Democracy only works when people support you.

gekkobear on June 6, 2012 at 5:52 PM

Democrats spend a billion dollars, witha chunk of it coming from outside the country from anonymous donors, getting Obama elected = DAMN, DEMOCRACY IS AWESOME.

Republicans unite to help a governor fighting an entrenched, corrupt Democrat money-laundering operation in a state that it was bleeding to death = DAMN, DEMOCRACY DIED.

Good Lt on June 6, 2012 at 5:52 PM

If you had any doubts about the sanity of the left…don’t doubt anymore.

I don’t like to condemn a large block of people but man being a democrat is just weird.

tomas on June 6, 2012 at 5:53 PM

I HOPE we’re undermining democracy…. because we’re a REPUBLIC!

michaelo on June 6, 2012 at 5:54 PM

Candidate Obama outspent John McCain’s campaign by one of the widest margins evah

Obama has ruined the Dems. Every baseless accusation they pile on the Republican of the day, can be traced back to Obama having actually done what they are accusing others of doing…it’s, it’s a wonder to behold.

Ghost Writer on June 6, 2012 at 5:54 PM

money that nobody knows where it came from.

In the commercials, they say who paid for the advertisement. So, they do know where it came from.

As for Dean, he was gathering money to “get out the vote” in Wisconsin. So I guess he is talking about himself. Here are some of the emails I got from him:

3-21-2012

I’ll get right to it -

We need to raise $67,114 by the end of the month to fully fund our Wisconsin recall campaign.

The polls in Wisconsin are neck-and-neck. Three Democrats are running in the primary to beat right-wing Gov. Scott Walker — and all three of them are beating Walker or polling within the margin of error in head-to-head match-ups.

We are closer than ever before to beating Scott Walker and ending his right-wing War on Working Families. This is the guy who led the fight to destroy unions and middle class families, to defund Planned Parenthood and to push through a harsh new voter ID law disenfranchising students, the elderly and the poor.

We can beat Scott Walker this summer — but we need to be on the ground knocking on doors, making phones calls and getting out the vote. Simply put, we can’t win in Wisconsin without your help.

Can you chip in $10 to the DFA Wisconsin recall campaign right now?

4-29-2012

This is it. DFA’s campaign to recall right-wing Gov. Scott Walker and four anti-union, anti-middle class Wisconsin Republican Senators is ready to go — and it’s the biggest campaign we’ve ever run.

We’re going to be on the air with new hard-hitting TV, radio and web ads against Walker and his Republican cronies for their work to destroy unions and middle class families.

We’re going to be on the ground with a massive door-to-door canvass, knocking on 127,353 doors in 35 days. Wisconsin Campaign Manager Kaili Lambe is on the ground right now hiring staff for our biggest-ever ground campaign.

We’re talking directly to voters and having real Wisconsinites tell their stories because it’s the most effective tactic to win support and Get Out The Vote. A grassroots campaign run on people-power like this one is the only thing that can beat big corporate money — it’s the only thing that ever has. But we can’t do it without you.

Please chip in $8 right now to the DFA Wisconsin Recall Campaign.

5-21-2012

Republicans aren’t holding anything back.

Right-wing Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker has a 25-to-1 fundraising advantage over Democrat Tom Barrett. Walker’s campaign has already spent $21 million trying to whitewash his record of destroying unions and middle-class families. Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus says they’ll spend whatever it takes to win. And Super PACs are unloading millions of dollars trying to tear Democrats down.

But the Democratic National Committee still isn’t investing in this recall election.

DFA is on the ground knocking on doors right now, working to get Democrats out to vote. Without DNC support on the ground, our GOTV operation is more important than ever.

Can you chip in $10 to the DFA Wisconsin recall campaign to help turn out Democrats to vote in the June 5 recall?

5-31-2012

We’re tied in Wisconsin.

A new poll out yesterday shows Democrat Tom Barrett tied 49-49 with right-wing Gov. Scott Walker.

Barrett has been closing the gap with Walker for weeks — and now he’s caught up.

The recall election is just five days away and we have all the momentum in Wisconsin. The most important thing we can do now is get voters to the polls — and we need your help to do it.

Can you make calls to Wisconsin voters this weekend and help Get Out The Vote for Democrats?

Yes! I can make calls to voters this weekend!

Sorry, I can’t make calls, but I’ll contribute $5 to help Get Out The Vote.

I’m not sorry I couldn’t make calls or contribute! So how did that work out for ya’ Dean….

What a tool!

Patriot Vet on June 6, 2012 at 5:54 PM

I was channel-flipping last night’s results and most MSM networks snarled the same thing – ‘The election was bought’! Yeah, like the unions on their own pumped in $21 million while lib commentators said that the Dems only had a paltry $4.5 million going in. Liars!

Bob in VA on June 6, 2012 at 5:55 PM

Candidate Obama outspent John McCain’s campaign by one of the widest margins evah, but when you don’t get the outcome you want, all that darned money in politics is suddenly not okay?

To be fair, Obama did promise libs “the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow, and our planet began to heal”. How can you not vote for that? Do you hate the planet or something?

redzap on June 6, 2012 at 5:39 PM

That moment happened when the Democrats nominated Obama, though. After he was nominated, the planet was just fine, global warming was taken care of, regardles of whether Obama or McCain was elected.

malclave on June 6, 2012 at 5:55 PM

Hmmmm…. I would think Walker’s winning a union-funded recall election is the purest form of democracy there is. But, what do I know?

Shepherd Lover on June 6, 2012 at 5:55 PM

This is why I am absolutely sure the Democrats will lose badly in 2012. They simply cannot conceive of the notion that the reason America is rejecting them is that they are WRONG.

It’s the money or it’s the messaging or it’s Bush – it’s never THE MESSAGE. We get it Lefties, we are not confused about your message. We are not dumb. It is clear to us.

WE JUST DON’T WANT IT.

The good news is that because they cannot conceive of being wrong, they are guaranteed to keep being wrong and thus lose. As of November 2012, Republicans will dominate every branch of government for the next 16 years.

mitchellvii on June 6, 2012 at 5:56 PM

How do you put a dollar value on the MSM ‘s mindless support for Barack Obama? It’s not just the stories they spin, but the stories they bury. The true cost of this service is not in the millions but in the billions. It is priceless.

It’s a little late for the MSM to complain about democracy being corrupted by money. It has already been thoroughly corrupted by leftist values: dishonesty, lack of integrity, incompetence, stupidity, lack of decency and godlessness.

Basilsbest on June 6, 2012 at 5:57 PM

Howie they said take the hippocratic oath not become one.

lilium479 on June 6, 2012 at 5:59 PM

It’s funny the Dems didn’t have these concerns when Obama outspent McCain three or four to one.

bw222 on June 6, 2012 at 5:59 PM

What a beautiful day.

CW on June 6, 2012 at 6:01 PM

Socialists lie about absolutely everything else, but you can ALWAYS trust them when they say that they have decided to give up on democracy as a means of achieving their goals.

logis on June 6, 2012 at 6:03 PM

How do you put a dollar value on the MSM ‘s mindless support ….
Basilsbest on June 6, 2012 at 5:57 PM

Determine the average cost of a commercial then take that cost and multiply times the typical 20 minutes of any 30 minute newscast.

CW on June 6, 2012 at 6:03 PM

Walker’s win is the “beginning of the undermining of American democracy”

Hyperbole looses its effectiveness when it’s the only thing that comes out of one’s pie hole.

I sometimes wonder if the people of Dean’s ilk actually believe the fecal matter they spew. They certainly have no gag reflex.

MessesWithTexas on June 6, 2012 at 6:06 PM

And AGAIN we ignore the $75-100 MILLION that unions spent in their anti-Walker efforts over the last year. Because that doesn’t fit the narrative, does it ?

What a crock of $hit.

deadrody on June 6, 2012 at 6:07 PM

Great video

Do you recall?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS0Dqz2P1sk&feature=player_embedded

CW on June 6, 2012 at 6:09 PM

1. A politician actually does what he says he will do
2. he turned around Wisconsin’s economy/unemployment
3. Citizens were LIBERATED from FORCED Union Dues Deductions, & with that newly provided FREEDOM the Unions lost 50% of its Union Dues

…and to a Democrat, all of this is ‘bad’ and the end of ‘American Democracy’ as we know it, or at least as THEY would have us know it!

The next thing to a Liberal defeat is listening to the STUPID Shi-ite they say afterwards. LOL!

easyt65 on June 6, 2012 at 6:12 PM

The Democrats must not have a lot of faith in the voting masses. Personally I always pull the lever for the candidate who places the most ads on TV and radio. Just too stupid to research the issues on my own.

But hopefully November we’ll get to see the likes of Dean and Company in full melt down.

BOHICA dems

Regards

SPIFF1669 on June 6, 2012 at 6:14 PM

Keep insulting the Wisconsin electorate, Howard. It’s a great strategy.

Mr. Arkadin on June 6, 2012 at 6:14 PM

republic, numbnuts

deedtrader on June 6, 2012 at 6:18 PM

Hey Howard Dean, you damned idiot; there is no American democracy. America is a Constitutional Republic. Moron.

PalinLover on June 6, 2012 at 6:18 PM

Howard the Coward beclowns himself and his party every time he opens his mouth. (YEAAARRRGH!, anyone?) It’s even worse for me, though, as he’s my 15th cousin twice removed (common ancestor on the Mayflower). Oh well, there’s at least one in every family. I apologize to America on behalf of my crazy cousin! :)

Benedict Nelson on June 6, 2012 at 6:18 PM

This is why I am absolutely sure the Democrats will lose badly in 2012. They simply cannot conceive of the notion that the reason America is rejecting them is that they are WRONG.

It’s the money or it’s the messaging or it’s Bush – it’s never THE MESSAGE. We get it Lefties, we are not confused about your message. We are not dumb. It is clear to us.

WE JUST DON’T WANT IT.

The good news is that because they cannot conceive of being wrong, they are guaranteed to keep being wrong and thus lose. As of November 2012, Republicans will dominate every branch of government for the next 16 years.

mitchellvii on June 6, 2012 at 5:56 PM

THIS! And this is why Obama’s campaign is off the rails. They don’t worry about how their behavior appears to the people.

Like today for example. We get it, they don’t. Like Monday when Obama performed three shows and the massacre of a manufacturing report came out and Friday was six shows, a horrible jobs report, a memorable gaffe, and a contest to have dinner with Zero and Cruella Deville.

They will continue of this way as long as they can. But riddle me this: How long can Obama continue to do two shows or three a day?

The ATM is coming up dry and he will crack.

dogsoldier on June 6, 2012 at 6:18 PM

Keep insulting the Wisconsin electorate, Howard. It’s a great strategy.

Mr. Arkadin on June 6, 2012 at 6:14 PM

Good point….shhhh.

CW on June 6, 2012 at 6:18 PM

Can anyone here spare a comment or two? We really should get last nights open thread to 3000. I mean we only need 34 comments and we’re there. I’ve waited patiently all day, thinking, its just got to get to 3000, Yet there she sits 34 shy. Come on, what do say. One last victory lap. One last big dance. One last hurrah! Anyhow OT.

Bmore on June 6, 2012 at 5:45 PM

I do b’lieve we dun did it. :-)

Mary in LA on June 6, 2012 at 6:20 PM

Dr. Howard? I would let that dope put a bandaid on my elbo. The libs have a severe interior rot problem. The dems let the progressives steal the party. They know the “O” is an amature; but wht do they have Hillary? The people of WI and the nation have come around to understand the bigger the government, the smaller the individual.

StevC on June 6, 2012 at 6:21 PM

Um, that pithy quote at the end isn’t an actual Benjamin Franklin quote; as noted on Wikiquote talk page:

Checking Google news, Google scholar and Google Books for “they can vote themselves money”, I could find no attributions to Franklin earlier than 1988. By contrast, “time is money” is attributed to Franklin as early as 1850.[3]–Nowa123 04:46, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

It bears close resemblance to the “Alexander Tyler” quote; ultimately, no genuine source has been identified so far.

Why not just take the self-evident truth of the statement as it is, rather than on borrowed authority of figures from antiquity?

novakyu on June 6, 2012 at 6:22 PM

republic, numbnuts

deedtrader on June 6, 2012 at 6:18 PM

It’s still a democracy numbnuts. Just a representative one. As a matter of fact the recall election was true democracy because representatives didn’t vote on the people’s behalf, the people voted for themselves.

The Notorious G.O.P on June 6, 2012 at 6:31 PM

Bozo picked Pay Day over DDay. Not surprised.

txag92 on June 6, 2012 at 6:31 PM

Wisconsin rocks….

what a beautiful day…..

CW on June 6, 2012 at 6:32 PM

Good! I hope it undermines the attempted change toward democracy of the 20th Century; it’s a failure EVERYWHERE, just like they stated over 200 years ago.

WE HAVE A REPUBLIC, NOT A DEMOCRACY, don’t let others define us

John Kettlewell on June 6, 2012 at 6:37 PM

well republican governments if the above sounds too weird

John Kettlewell on June 6, 2012 at 6:39 PM

I hope the Republicans don’t let them get by using this line and call them on their hypocrisy soon and often. This is their new mantra, blah, blah, blah. Put a stake in the heart of it ASAP.

silvernana on June 6, 2012 at 6:49 PM

Talk about democracy! A Recall Election because you don’t like the governor balancing the budget and putting some fairness back into the public unions (which should just be made illegal IMO). Hypocrites.

kirkill on June 6, 2012 at 6:54 PM

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