Ed Rendell: In hindsight, it was pretty stupid to try to recall Walker, huh?
posted at 4:41 pm on June 6, 2012 by Allahpundit
B-b-b-but I thought Wisconsin had sent a “strong message” to Walker about his “politics of division” or whatever.
How stupid was the recall effort? So stupid that even your friendly neighborhood eeyore was laughing about the futility of it nearly a year ago. An actual quote, written during the five minutes of my life to date in which I was feelin’ cocky:
Not only is the outrageous outrage over the collective bargaining bill fated to cool over time, as success stories bubble up in the news and centrist voters realize that the blue-collar apocalypse isn’t at hand, but it turns out a loophole in Wisconsin law will allow Walker to raise unlimited funds for two months to fight the recall effort starting in November. He’ll be armed to the teeth financially, in other words, and Republicans who turned out in droves to re-elect David Prosser in the face of a liberal onslaught will be even more motivated to protect the GOP’s newest hero…
Don’t we want the left to try this, given how likely they are to suffer another humiliating defeat?
Today is the day of gloating, my friends, so consider the box checked. Over to you, Ed Rendell:
“It was a dumb political fight — I would have waited until Walker’s reelection,” Rendell told The Hill when asked if the recall push had been a mistake. The former governor and head of the Democratic National Committee pointed to exit polls that showed a number of independents and Democrats who opposed Walker’s policies nonetheless voted for him because they opposed a recall…
“I don’t think it was quite as devastating a defeat for labor or Democrats as people are construing.” he said. “Don’t discount the Ohio vote. That was on a principle, not on a recall. You might make a case that the Ohio vote was a clear test…. This was a recall, not a straight up and down vote on what Walker did. You don’t try to recall Walker because he’s done something you disagree with. And if you reverse the money I have no doubt Walker would have lost.”
For what it’s worth, a Wall Street Journal piece published on May 20th quoted a number of Dems who insisted they opposed the recall all along. Whether that’s the truth or simple ass-covering at the eleventh hour as Walker’s reelection seemed assured, I leave for you to judge:
Top Democrats now say that when labor groups first raised the specter of a recall, the party’s officials urged their allies in Wisconsin to reconsider. “We told them it was a bad, bad, bad idea,” one Democratic official said.
A union official said both the Democratic National Committee and the Obama campaign expressed reservations. “I don’t know that anyone was enthusiastic about it over there,” the union official said.
Party leaders also counseled against pouring money into a contested primary ahead of the recall election, the Democratic official said.
Mr. Barca, the Wisconsin Assembly minority leader, said he had heard rumblings about the DNC’s displeasure with the recall. But Wisconsin residents weren’t seeking approval from Washington, he said.
I don’t think they had any choice but to try it. They went after Prosser as a proxy for Walker and nearly beat him; they went after Republican state senators and knocked a few of them off, although not enough (at the time) to take back the majority. What would their excuse have been for passing on trying to recall Satan himself? “We can’t win in a famously pro-labor state that’s voted Democratic in every presidential election for 25 years?” Contra Rendell, their real handicap here wasn’t money, it was time. Given the escalation from the Madison protests and the stakes in protecting Walker’s fiscal reforms, conservatives were always going to line up behind him and provide oceans of cash for his defense. The left’s problem was that they couldn’t try to recall Walker during his first year in office, which meant undecideds had time to see for themselves that the collective bargaining reforms worked. The sky didn’t fall; the state’s budget benefited from the move. And amidst all this, they got to watch Greece implode and America’s debt continue to climb because of increasingly onerous and ultimately unsustainable state obligations. Go figure that voters were ready to go to bat for a guy who’s willing to administer tough medicine for their fiscal health.
Via the Tatler, here’s the obligatory “Downfall” parody of last night’s outcome. Exit question: Heaven forbid that O win a second term this fall, but if he does, is Walker now the favorite in 2016? He’s suddenly the gold standard in standing up to entrenched liberal interests in the name of budgetary sanity, and we’re going to need a lot of sanity after Hopenchange v2.0.
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It is disappointing that Scott Walker supports amnesty.
bluegill on March 21, 2013 at 8:05 AM
Let’s take back the terminology. It isn’t “path to citizenship” or even amnesty. It is a plan for preferential treatment of illegal aliens. Seriously, I know people who waited years and had to spend thousands to become citizens. I have no support for those who would reward those with illegal alien status.
Happy Nomad on March 21, 2013 at 8:10 AM
Liberals will not long allow the states to be creative in meeting problems, most of which are caused by Washington and by liberals with their chosen sacraments of SSM, abortion, and entitlements. They will either join the idiots in DC (like with the CO gun and magazine ban) when they gain power, or do everything to undermine efforts when out of power (like the recall vote against Walker by the teacher unions). And, of course, the courts to declare unconstitutional an amendment to a state’s constitution (like with the SSM case before SCOTUS).
If liberals are to succeed, free thought and action independent of Washington and the Democrat machine cannot be tolerated.
Liam on March 21, 2013 at 8:11 AM
The owners of the gop (Big business) should be thrilled that the Union buster wants to run.
But he’s wasting his time because Texas is going blue if he gets AMNESTY.
Viva the leaders of the end-of-America Party!!!
PappyD61 on March 21, 2013 at 8:14 AM
Courageous — like Scott in FL and Brewer in AZ, agreeing to expand Medicaid so they could get more magical Obamabucks (at least in the short run)?
But Scott is right about the states being the answer. If we’re going to have any hope of saving this country, the states are going to need to take the lead. The states need to re-claim their constitutional authority; authority that they’ve foolishly ceded to the federal government too many times.
AZCoyote on March 21, 2013 at 8:15 AM
Walker? Ryan? Rubio? Paul? Cruz? Etc.
2016????……That’s not the real question if the gop allows 20 million more illegals to be voters…..the real question is do we change the country’s name to:
Meximerica?………or Americo?
Anyone in the BowDown Media have the fritos to ask THAT question of these Amnesty pushers?
PappyD61 on March 21, 2013 at 8:19 AM
It is disappointing that Scott Walker supports amnesty.
bluegill on March 21, 2013 at 8:05 AM
Let’s take back the terminology. It isn’t “path to citizenship” or even amnesty. It is a plan for preferential treatment of illegal aliens. Seriously, I know people who waited years and had to spend thousands to become citizens. I have no support for those who would reward those with illegal alien status.
Happy Nomad on March 21, 2013 at 8:10 AM
Walker’s stand on immigration is my biggest problem with him.
annoyinglittletwerp on March 21, 2013 at 8:29 AM
His state voted for Obama. Yeah, they did it, and will keep doing it. I doubt Walker could carry his own state.
rubberneck on March 21, 2013 at 8:32 AM
Now this is someone I can get behind, is he perfect No. He has done great work in his state and he has Exec experience unlike Paul.
KBird on March 21, 2013 at 8:41 AM
His state voted for Obama. Yeah, they did it, and will keep doing it. I doubt Walker could carry his own state.
rubberneck on March 21, 2013 at 8:32 AM
THIS x1,000,000
PappyD61 on March 21, 2013 at 9:02 AM
With the consensus that there will be an immigration bill passed some time this year, it is critical that there is a national policy that spells out the difference between immigrants who are on a path to citizenship, (working, paying taxes into the system, and collecting benefits), and an actual “right to vote” as an American citizen.
Every “immigrant” working here with a legal status, MUST also carry the proper ID that says in essence, “working status approved” “NOT A LEGAL VOTING AMERICAN CITIZEN”.
Let the Democrats chew on the fact that it will be over 10 years of continuous residency and passing the test of understanding the Constitution—in English—before voting status is granted.
Rovin on March 21, 2013 at 9:13 AM
I like the idea of identification that proclaims they are not legal voters. However, given the large number of stupid english-speaking people here who are citizens and don’t have a clue about the Constitution, I can’t support an understanding of the Constitution as a requirement to vote….. UNLESS WE EXTEND IT TO ALL VOTERS.
Happy Nomad on March 21, 2013 at 9:21 AM
My bad. I had assumed that our public, (federal), education system would cover the Constitution for every American student at some point before they graduated from HS. One would think that the founding document that completes the foundation of how our government IS supposed to operate, would be understood. Perhaps our liberal progressive “leaders” should be pinned down on what they believe is a priority for all Americans.
Rovin on March 21, 2013 at 9:32 AM
Although I agree that Texans need to be vigilant in keeping Texas conservative…Currently the Liberal Catholics are outnumbered by a combined denominational Protestants as a voting block. Baptists being the largest single block close to the Catholic demographic percentage
In Houston the percentage is Catholic – 18.44% Baptist – 16.29%
In Dallas the percentage is Catholic – 19.25% Baptist – 15.36%
In Austinistan……………Catholic – 17.45% Baptist – 10.56%
South of San Antonio is predominantly Catholic – 30.9%
Baptist – 7.89%
“Geographically, Texas tends to be heavily Protestant in the north and east and Catholic in the south and southwest. Leading Protestant denominations and their known adherents in 2000 were the Southern Baptist Convention, 3,519,459; the United Methodist Church, 1,022,342; Churches of Christ, 377,264; Assemblies of God, 228,098; the Presbyterian Church USA, 180,315; the Episcopal Church, 177,910; Independent Charismatic Churches, 159,449; the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, 155,451; the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, 155,019; Independent Non-Charismatic Churches, 145,249; and the Lutheran Church—Missouri Synod, 140,106. Roman Catholics numbered 4,368,969 in 2000. There were an estimated 128,000 Jews, 114,999 Muslims, and about 10,777 adherents to the Baha’i faith. There were about 9.2 million people (44.5% of the population) who were not counted as members of any religious organization.”
http://www.city-data.com/states/Texas-Religions.html
Graph on Denominational Percentages:
http://www.bestplaces.net/religion/state/texas
workingclass artist on March 21, 2013 at 9:33 AM
True or not liberals are convinced that since the civil war, state sovereignty belongs to the president.
Speakup on March 21, 2013 at 9:49 AM
My incredibly stupid state government is about to pass in state tuition for children of illegals.
The comments on the Portland TV stations FB page are overwhelmingly and vehemently against it. Surprising to me.
I do not think the majority of the little people, left or right support the politicians’ ideas on this this issue, but then again, the little people are paying for this mess and don’t need votes.
Maybe all the gop needs is someone who will actually do the right thing and put Americans first.
ORconservative on March 21, 2013 at 9:51 AM
This is really frustrating…Aside from a direct and concerted effort to round up illegals…including at their homes or work, or school…containing them in numerous “camps” across the US, and shipping them out to their home country, anything short of that would fall under the “amnesty” umbrella.
That ain’t gonna happen, just based on the logistics of such an operation, the costs, the effects on children and families, and the political ramifications. So it’s well past time get over the whole “amnesty” bs and throwing any GOPer who so much as mentions some “path to citizenship” under the bus.
The sooner we get over that, the better. Make no mistake, I’m all for sealing our borders, build a wall, heck…put armed guards in towers with Gatling guns. A sovereign nation cannot exist with open, porous borders. Of course, over half of illegals in the US didn’t slip through a hole in the fence or over a barrier…they came legally and overstayed their visas. That’s another thing we should do…to be much stricter on.
JetBoy on March 21, 2013 at 10:12 AM
All Politics is local…… so they say….
Unless you have a Big Media controlled by fascists, who create a propagandist lying reality for millions of Americans, that has no accountability for the lies they spread.
Yes, Kill the messenger. Do not feed the WaPo, LAT NYT beast anymore.
You want honesty to return to American Government ?
Fight the Pravda. The Russians finally did. And they won.
FlaMurph on March 21, 2013 at 12:16 PM
Yes because Mitt and McCain had exactly the same message as Walker.
- x1,000,000
It was the message that won the day for Walker. Small Government and he has delivered on that message. It could not have been more different than the bigger Government message of McCain and Romney.
Mitt was 15 points behind Walker and the message was the one and only reason for that. Mitts GOPe message stunk on ice and lost him the election. Well that and his core beliefs came out from time to time. You know pro Obama Care. Pro Abortion. Pro Gay Marriage. He tried hard to hide them but they did come out from time to time.
Steveangell on March 21, 2013 at 12:46 PM
And ANY of the Democrats are better??? This man had the cajones to stand up to the radical far left, the unions, the Obama admin. AND WON..
I would vote for Scott Walker in a presidential race in a HEARTBEAT..
reshas1 on March 21, 2013 at 12:51 PM
The “just look to the states” approach has some validity but it is truly too simplistic. Yes, the progress made by the Republican Party has been made on the state levels, but I can tell you that in many cases the state legislators are just as venal as those in Washington. Too many are looking at the wrong issues. (i.e. when Texas was suffering an ugly financial picture, the first piece of legislation considered was a fetal heart/anti-abortion bill). Progress is being made in the states, but in many cases it is in spite of many truly stupid legislators.
Legislators in Washington, D.C. have been there too long. They no longer hear the voices of their constituents. I have never favored term limits, but I no longer vote for incumbents. Maybe term limits is the answer.
georgeofthedesert on March 22, 2013 at 11:19 AM