Big Labor drops a do-over deuce

posted at 8:41 am on June 6, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Well, well, well.  It turns out that the majority of Wisconsin voters don’t sympathize much with the plight of poor, downtrodden … government workers.  More than a year after public-employee unions in Wisconsin and the labor movement nationwide tried to make an example of Republicans in Wisconsin for enacting collective-bargaining reforms — which have save the state $1 billion already — they have won exactly one seat in the state Senate, and potentially a recount in another:

All eyes Wednesday will be on the 21st District. Results posted early Wednesday showed Lehman with 36,255 votes to 35,476 for Wanggaard with 100% of precincts reporting. The margin of 779 could bring a recount.

In a statement, Senate Democratic Leader Mark Miller said:

“Tonight, Wisconsinites across the 21st Senate District elected a new State Senator. By electing a Democratic Senate, the people of Wisconsin have opened the door to responsible dialogue and if needed provide a bulwark against continued political extremism, and restored checks and balances to the Wisconsin Legislature. I look forward to working again with Senator-elect Lehman in the State Senate in the coming months.”

Wanggaard’s campaign manager Justin Phillips issued his own statement, hinting at a recount:

“We owe it to all of Senator Wanggaard’s supporters and the voters of Wisconsin to thoroughly examine the election and its results and act accordingly once we have all of the information.”

The results bring an end – for now – to recall elections of lawmakers after the November 2010 election of Gov. Scott Walker and the firestorm that followed. Tuesday’s results follow a series of recall elections in 2011 when Democrats picked up two seats in recalls involving nine senators, cutting into the Republican’s majority. The majority slipped to a tie after Galloway’s resignation.

If Lehman’s win holds, Democrats assume a 17-16 majority, at least until next November’s elections. It’s unknown whether the Senate will convene in a special session before then.

That’s correct — the Wisconsin Senate will be out of session until 2013.  In November, 16 of the 33 seats will be up for grabs, and thanks to the redistricting that will be in place for the first time in that election, Republicans are supposed to pick up at least two seats.  The unions spent millions of dollars and over a year’s worth of effort to get a temporary one-seat majority in a chamber that will never meet in session.   And that’s assuming that their lone win from last night holds up in a recount. Congratulations, Big Labor!

What of all the other races?   Unions and Democrats contested ten state Senate races over the past year, one Supreme Court position, and the Governor and Lt. Governor offices.  They ended up farther back than when they started.  Scott Walker improved his 2010 performance by 125,000 votes, and Barrett lost by a bigger percentage than in 2010.  Rebecca Kleefisch trounced her opponent, who hadn’t even been on record as voting until 2008.

This led to an inevitable amount of whining afterward about Democrats being outspent 7-1, but that only looks at the spending from the campaigns, and only in the gubernatorial election.  Unions dropped millions into Wisconsin in an effort to punish politicians who had the temerity to impose some fiscal discipline on the government class.  They calculated that voters would find bureaucrats more sympathetic than the taxpayers getting fleeced by the WEAC Trust and the PEUs.  They bet wrong.

Politico calls them the biggest loser, and for good reason.  The unions put on a great demonstration of their impotence over the last year and a half:

Big Labor went all in on the Wisconsin recall — putting millions of dollars, months of organizing and its reputation as a political superpower on the line to defeat GOP Gov. Scott Walker.

Then they got trounced on Election Day.

Walker’s decisive victory over Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett on Tuesday has demonstrated the vulnerability of a long-formidable movement whose ranks are thinning across the country. The failed recall attempt has energized organized labor’s foes and emboldened lawmakers to pick fights with unions in other states. And it has underscored the fact that unions — a potent source of political power and dollars for Democrats — aren’t going to be the left’s counter to conservative groups’ outside cash in November.

They never should have picked this fight in the first place.  Big Labor’s David Prosser/JoAnn Kloppenburg failure should have warned them to drop the recall effort against Walker and Kleefisch and instead used the time to keep the threat of their action in reserve.  Instead, they played their card, and it turned out to be a deuce in a do-over.

Update: It was ten state Senate races, not eight, as Steve Eggleston reminds me.  In the comments, Steve notes that the margin in that close loss will be about 1% of the vote, likely too wide for a recount to matter.


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Has anyone heard from Richard Trumka this morning?

Night Owl on June 6, 2012 at 10:44 AM

Yep. Him gone bye-bye.

kingsjester on June 6, 2012 at 10:44 AM

Awesome…

OmahaConservative on June 6, 2012 at 10:45 AM

Night Owl on June 6, 2012 at 10:44 AM

Nope. He’s laying low.

kingsjester on June 6, 2012 at 10:45 AM

Did you see Barrett getting slapped in the face by a thug Democrat voter after his concession speech? It was priceless.

Punchenko on June 6, 2012 at 8:55 AM

Heading over to YouTube right now to look for this. Should be screamingly hilarious. Couldn’t watch anything last night as I was at work.

Resist We Much on June 6, 2012 at 9:36 AM

Easily one of the top posts of the year. My congratulations, I doff my hat to you.

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on June 6, 2012 at 10:30 AM

Agreed, absolutely. An outstanding comment. You definitely hit the nail on the head. Bravo, Resist We Much!

PatriotGal2257 on June 6, 2012 at 10:46 AM

17% of Obama supporters voted for Walker, wowza. Inthemiddle may be right, this win could cause Romney to pour money into WI to no avail.

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 10:15 AM

Do you not realize that Obama won WI by 14 points in 2008? If WI is even remotely close in 2012, Obama will have already lost the election.

Missy on June 6, 2012 at 10:51 AM

Eh actually the founders thought there should be lots of restrictions on the franchise. Perhaps what we’re seeing is a return to those original values, when only the privileged property owner could participate in Democracy. We’ve returned to pre-Jacksonian democracy.

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 9:09 AM

So, a ‘special’ election in which more people turn out than did in the original election…and in which the victors (for the second time) win by even larger margins than the first time….must mean that there are even more “privileged property owners than before.
Right! That’s a sure sign of a return to “pre-Jacksonian” times.

Has it ever occurred to you that you whine and snivel an awful lot? Of course, there’s a lot of that going on in the leftist camp this morning.

Now….we won. You lost. The election’s over. STFU!

Solaratov on June 6, 2012 at 10:52 AM

Cry me a bloody river already. Barrett has been the nominee for what? A month. Walker has been the governor, who is the target of the recall, for more than 15 months. He’s been raising money all of that time. How much out-of-state money did ALL of the Democrat candidates receive? How much out-of-state money has been spent on this recall?

Better yet, from where did many of the tens of thousands of original protesters hail?

Out-of-state.

Where did the 14 Democrat senators go to prevent a quorum?

Out-of-state.

Where do many of those that signed the recall petition live?

Out-of-state.

Where did much of the $21 million come from that Big Labour spent trying to recall Walker?

Out-of-state.

Where do people like Richard Trumka, James Hoffa, etc., live?

Out-of-state.

Where does the President, who accused the Republicans of “assaulting the unions,” live?

Out-of-state.

Where does the stunningly attractive MSNBC presenter, Rachel Maddow, who claimed that Walker did not inherit a $3 billion budget deficit, live?

Out-of-state.

Where does Special Ed Schultz of MSNBC live?

Out-of-state.

Where does Michael Moore live?

Out-of-state.

Where does George Soros live?

Out-of-state.

Where does your 11th hour cheerleader, Bill Clinton, live?

Out-of-state.

You guys started this. You kicked a hornet’s nest with this recall business and now you will have to live with the results. You cry about money and unfair advantages; yet, you overlook the fact that Walker received more votes in May than all of the Democratic candidates combined. Where did those voters live?

In-state.

“Barrett raised a mere $4 million on his own, while outside PACs did the heavy lifting — We Are Wisconsin raised more than $5.5 million in the last month alone, including seven-figure donations from AFSCME and the AFL-CIO, six-figure donations from the National Education Association and the American Federation of Teachers, and a mere $720 from its three (that’s three) individual donors. The Left will complain that Walker outspent Barrett handily, but this is no vice considering Walker also handily outraised Barrett in individual donations, about three-quarters of which were for less than $50. It was Walker’s strength, after all, that convinced national Democrats to stop spending on a race they didn’t think they could win.”

If Walker wins tomorrow, you will have given the biggest scalp so far to the Tea Party because that’s from where Walker has gotten most of his money.

As Alanis Morrisette would say, “Isn’t it ironic? Don’t you think? A little too ironic…and, yeah, I really do think…”

PS: I wouldn’t care if it were 1 trillion:1. You deserve what you get. People are fed up with you prima donnas demanding unsustainable benefits and requiring all of the attention be on you. You are in the minority. Union membership in the United States is around 7%…not too much greater than the percentage of the population that is gay (2-3%). More people believe that Elvis is eating in a dinner in Minnesota right now and aliens are walking down 5th Avenue as I type than belong to a union in this country.

Talk about old, wrinkled, worn-out, washed-up, used, ridden hard and put up wet. Sheesh. At least Gloria Swanson and Mae West had the decency to retire or parody themselves.
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PPS: You lost in San Diego and San Jose, too.

Resist We Much on June 6, 2012 at 9:36 AM

THIS

KrebsCyclist on June 6, 2012 at 10:54 AM

Uncomfortable fact: Obama up by +12 in PA – Romney’s “goose is cooked” as the AK Snowbilly would say.

inthemiddle on June 6, 2012 at 8:51 AM

Glad to see some Leftist rise this AM after the azz beating
sustained yesterday, and type some idiotic ramblings like
the one above…keep clinging to your “polls”, we’ll
keep lining up at the Booth to deliver more azz beatings…

ToddPA on June 6, 2012 at 10:59 AM

Do you not realize that Obama won WI by 14 points in 2008? If WI is even remotely close in 2012, Obama will have already lost the election.

Missy on June 6, 2012 at 10:51 AM

If WI is close because Romney puts an enormous amount of resources into the state at the expense of other states then Obama will win. Also has anyone noticed that the jobs report has managed to see Obama get an uptick in all state and national polls, even Rasmussen has come down from their Romney +4 number. What’s going on?

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 10:59 AM

Uncomfortable fact: WI is still nationally blue with Obama +7 over Romney in latest poll.

inthemiddle on June 6, 2012 at 8:48 AM

Uncomfortable fact: Obama up by +12 in PA – Romney’s “goose is cooked” as the AK Snowbilly would say.

inthemiddle on June 6, 2012 at 8:51 AM

Hope your numbers don’t come from the same pollsters who predicted that the WI recall election was too close to call? Bwahaha :)… Or you will be in for a big surprise in Nov, tard :)…

jimver on June 6, 2012 at 11:00 AM

60% of WI voters, regardless of where they stand on the policy, believe a recall should only occur if there was malfeasance in office. But continue to believe that Romney can win in Wisconsin, seriously, its amusing.

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 11:00 AM

What’s going on?

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 10:59 AM

You guys were slapped down by the Wisconsin voters last night, and now you’re trying to derail the thread to assuage your grief.

kingsjester on June 6, 2012 at 11:01 AM

seriously, its amusing.

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 11:00 AM

Delusional peopl often laugh at their own musings.

kingsjester on June 6, 2012 at 11:02 AM

Scott Walker winning big with a big union turnout means even private sector union members hate public sector unions.

Public sector union reform is waaay overdue.

petefrt on June 6, 2012 at 11:02 AM

Certainly not a leftist, but come from a proud heritage of union members in my family who have benefited greatly from them. Thus, my passionGREED.

inthemiddle on June 6, 2012 at 9:20 AM

FIFY.

And, yes. You are a leftist – and a whiny, entitled leech.

Solaratov on June 6, 2012 at 11:03 AM

If WI is close because Romney puts an enormous amount of resources into the state at the expense of other states then Obama will win. Also has anyone noticed that the jobs report has managed to see Obama get an uptick in all state and national polls, even Rasmussen has come down from their Romney +4 number. What’s going on?

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 10:59 AM

Other than you overdosing, alas again, on the happy pill, not much :)….

jimver on June 6, 2012 at 11:03 AM

What’s going on?

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 10:59 AM

You guys were slapped down by the Wisconsin voters last night, and now you’re trying to derail the thread to assuage your grief.

kingsjester on June 6, 2012 at 11:01 AM

Throwing dust in their opponent’s faces is all they’ve got.

ebrown2 on June 6, 2012 at 11:03 AM

If WI is close because Romney puts an enormous amount of resources into the state…

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 10:59 AM

Hey bud…you’re operating on the premise that Walker won because he had more money.

Had it ever occurred to you that he won because he went through with his campaign promises…and they worked? Because he did…and they did.

Had it also ever occurred to you that he won because people didn’t think he should be recalled, which even some Democrats agree with?

Had it also ever occurred to you that he won because he won last time?

MadisonConservative on June 6, 2012 at 11:05 AM

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 10:59 AM

What’s going on is Obama will get crushed in November, exactly the same way as Barrett did yesterday or worse.

dogsoldier on June 6, 2012 at 11:06 AM

Did anyone catch douchenozzle Maryland governor O’Malley’s remarks to Bret Baier last night?

“…only three people that have been indicted in Scott Walker’s administration and not yet him.”

“…rolling back womens’ rights, workers’ rights and voters’ rights…”

“…short of actual criminal conduct which has yet to be leveled in prosecutorial charges against Scott Walker…”

When they lose, they really SOUND like losers.

ceegardave on June 6, 2012 at 11:06 AM

You guys were slapped down by the Wisconsin voters last night, and now you’re trying to derail the thread to assuage your grief.

kingsjester on June 6, 2012 at 11:01 AM

You really can’t quite get enough of this circular dolphin flog can ya?

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 11:08 AM

Uncomfortable fact: Obama up by +12 in PA – Romney’s “goose is cooked” as the AK Snowbilly would say.

inthemiddle on June 6, 2012 at 8:51 AM

So at the very best, the incumbent President is only 2 points better than he was in 2008. Thats with a 13 point bias in favor of democrats in the poll, before any debates, with 12% undecided and with the incumbent President below 50%.

Zaggs on June 6, 2012 at 11:08 AM

Certainly not a leftist, but come from a proud heritage of union members in my family who have benefited greatly from them. Thus, my passion.

Meaning they were lousy employees that the employer was unable to fire and who were wildly overpaid for the limited work they did perform.

I come from a proud heritage of non-liars, thus my passion with regard to your utter dishonesty.

Monkeytoe on June 6, 2012 at 9:26 AM

Yes, it appears that a history of bribery, extortion and blackmail is something to be proud of!

slickwillie2001 on June 6, 2012 at 11:08 AM

If WI is close because Romney puts an enormous amount of resources into the state at the expense of other states then Obama will win. Also has anyone noticed that the jobs report has managed to see Obama get an uptick in all state and national polls, even Rasmussen has come down from their Romney +4 number. What’s going on?

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 10:59 AM

“What’s going on”?

You’re delusional, but keep posting these little gems
of delusion anyway…we enjoy the entertainment value.

ToddPA on June 6, 2012 at 11:08 AM

Let’s remember that this entire waste of time and money started because Gov. Walker initially asked the unions to pay a teeny tiny higher percentage of their health care costs, (still much lower than those of us in the private sector have to pay) and the unions told him to go to hell, demonstrating their complete disconnect from fiscal reality.

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on June 6, 2012 at 10:35 AM

What really PO’d the unions was making paying union dues optional and refusing to have the state automatically withhold dues from paychecks and fork the proceeds over to union. That enraged the union bosses and the authoritarian socialists.

Letting people have a choice about whether or not to write a check to the unions was unacceptable. Giving people a choice on whether or not to pay dues to a government union is fascism in the minds of socialists.

Unions and socialism are all about removing choices from citizens, about giving them little or no choice, because they might not make the “right” choice. They may not make the choices totalitarian fascist socialists want them to make.

farsighted on June 6, 2012 at 11:11 AM

Why is that? You’re in the middle, above all this partisan nonsense. Liberty, socialism, you win either way.

bernverdnardo1 on June 6, 2012 at 9:26 AM

“The only things one finds in the middle of the road are a yellow stripe and dead chickens.”

______M.Thatcher

Solaratov on June 6, 2012 at 11:11 AM

Certainly not a leftist, but come from a proud heritage of union members in my family who have benefited greatly from them. Thus, my passionGREED.

inthemiddle on June 6, 2012 at 9:20 AM

Aww, the time of big union benefits is over, guess you and your family of proud union members will be back to living on food stamps now…bad news, that will come to an end too, coming this Nov, so that means you might have to get a real job in the real world after all.. I heard Koch Brothers need janitors at their main office :)…not sure they are unionized positions though :)…

jimver on June 6, 2012 at 11:12 AM

You really can’t quite get enough of this circular dolphin flog can ya?

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 11:08 AM

You mean American Freedom? Capitalism? Doing what’s right? Morals and ethics? Reagan Conservatism?

I love it.

It sure kicked your Liberal hindquarters last night, didn’t it, Skippy?

kingsjester on June 6, 2012 at 11:12 AM

I hope Michelle wears the most expensive outfit possible (courtesy of taxpayers) as a big middle finger!

Of course you do, child….because you’re not a taxpayer.

You’re just an entitled little leech; who thinks money grows on trees.

Solaratov on June 6, 2012 at 10:28 AM

You know, seriously, I have seen pictures of Moochie in the last week or so in relatively nice business-style suits. It almost looks like someone staged a major intervention, took away the tranny-hooker outfits and is going to be telling her what to wear until election time. Quite a contrast.

slickwillie2001 on June 6, 2012 at 11:12 AM

Also has anyone noticed that the jobs report has managed to see Obama get an uptick in all state and national polls, even Rasmussen has come down from their Romney +4 number. What’s going on?

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 10:59 AM

The early happy hour starting to kick in, maybe? So tell us, just how big of an uptick are you seeing after that jobs report detailing 60,000 added jobs…as it takes 250,000 just to tread water?

Does the Poli Sci department at you college teach polls being more important than elections?

MNHawk on June 6, 2012 at 11:13 AM

Had it also ever occurred to you that he won because he won last time?

Had it also ever occurred to you that he won because people didn’t think he should be recalled, which even some Democrats agree with?

MadisonConservative on June 6, 2012 at 11:05 AM

Indeed, both things have occurred to me. Recalls of governers have a notoriously poor batting average. I think its happened three times in American history. And as I’ve noted in this very thread 60% of WI voters, that includes a lot of Democrats don’t believe the recall should have even gone through and an astounding 17% of Obama voters cast their ballots for Walker.

All of which is to say that Walker’s victory means diddly for how Romney will do in the state in November. Notice that while the exit polls were revised on the Walker-Barret from 50-50 to Walker +4, no one has done any revision on that Obama-Romney exit poll number (except for Allah who just tried to make it disappear, cute that).

Hey bud…you’re operating on the premise that Walker won because he had more money.

If you exclude the tens of millions Walker received from outside the state of WI he STILL outspent Barret 7-1. So yes, it is quite clear that having deep pockets impacts elections. Or had you not noticed that every politicians spends more than half their time fundraising instead of actually governing (I know, I know, the only politician who fundraises is Obama, its amazing how he’s the only politician who does the things all politicians do for you people). The rules are the rules, but lets stop calling it anything but corporatist rule at this point. And that includes the Wall Street-bought 2008 Obama campaign and the failed corpratist-lite Administration he’s run.

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 11:14 AM

BTW, I’m waiting for someone to accuse Palin of homophobia for using “goose” in a sentence referring to little Bammie.

slickwillie2001 on June 6, 2012 at 11:15 AM

…oh look!…a walking and talking middle finger!

KOOLAID2 on June 6, 2012 at 9:31 AM

But not both at the same time, I’d wager.

Solaratov on June 6, 2012 at 11:15 AM

Cry me a bloody river already. Barrett has been the nominee for what? A month. Walker has been the governor, who is the target of the recall, for more than 15 months. He’s been raising money all of that time. How much out-of-state money did ALL of the Democrat candidates receive? How much out-of-state money has been spent on this recall?

Better yet, from where did many of the tens of thousands of original protesters hail?

Out-of-state.

Where did the 14 Democrat senators go to prevent a quorum?

Out-of-state.

Where do many of those that signed the recall petition live?

Out-of-state.

Where did much of the $21 million come from that Big Labour spent trying to recall Walker?

Out-of-state.

Where do people like Richard Trumka, James Hoffa, etc., live?

Out-of-state.

Where does the President, who accused the Republicans of “assaulting the unions,” live?

Out-of-state.

Where does the stunningly attractive MSNBC presenter, Rachel Maddow, who claimed that Walker did not inherit a $3 billion budget deficit, live?

Out-of-state.

Where does Special Ed Schultz of MSNBC live?

Out-of-state.

Where does Michael Moore live?

Out-of-state.

Where does George Soros live?

Out-of-state.

Where does your 11th hour cheerleader, Bill Clinton, live?

Out-of-state.

You guys started this. You kicked a hornet’s nest with this recall business and now you will have to live with the results. You cry about money and unfair advantages; yet, you overlook the fact that Walker received more votes in May than all of the Democratic candidates combined. Where did those voters live?

In-state.

“Barrett raised a mere $4 million on his own, while outside PACs did the heavy lifting — We Are Wisconsin raised more than $5.5 million in the last month alone, including seven-figure donations from AFSCME and the AFL-CIO, six-figure donations from the National Education Association and the American Federation of Teachers, and a mere $720 from its three (that’s three) individual donors. The Left will complain that Walker outspent Barrett handily, but this is no vice considering Walker also handily outraised Barrett in individual donations, about three-quarters of which were for less than $50. It was Walker’s strength, after all, that convinced national Democrats to stop spending on a race they didn’t think they could win.”

If Walker wins tomorrow, you will have given the biggest scalp so far to the Tea Party because that’s from where Walker has gotten most of his money.

As Alanis Morrisette would say, “Isn’t it ironic? Don’t you think? A little too ironic…and, yeah, I really do think…”

PS: I wouldn’t care if it were 1 trillion:1. You deserve what you get. People are fed up with you prima donnas demanding unsustainable benefits and requiring all of the attention be on you. You are in the minority. Union membership in the United States is around 7%…not too much greater than the percentage of the population that is gay (2-3%). More people believe that Elvis is eating in a dinner in Minnesota right now and aliens are walking down 5th Avenue as I type than belong to a union in this country.

Talk about old, wrinkled, worn-out, washed-up, used, ridden hard and put up wet. Sheesh. At least Gloria Swanson and Mae West had the decency to retire or parody themselves.
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PPS: You lost in San Diego and San Jose, too.

Resist We Much on June 6, 2012 at 9:36 AM

Brilliant! Nice analysis… really enjoyed it, thanks!

GuitarMark on June 6, 2012 at 11:15 AM

The early happy hour starting to kick in, maybe? So tell us, just how big of an uptick are you seeing after that jobs report detailing 60,000 added jobs…as it takes 250,000 just to tread water?

That report came out on Friday, check out the polling released so far this week. There’s an awful lot of blue this week, things are trending back towards Obama after a post-gay marriage dip.

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 11:16 AM

Resist We Much on June 6, 2012 at 9:36 AM

That was excellent!

Apparently, there is a woodshed at HotAir… and inthemiddle just got taken to it!

dominigan on June 6, 2012 at 11:16 AM

I for one will never forget or forgive these Dem hacks on the supposed elections board of Wisconsin for allowing Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, felons, deceased people etc…to be counted as “legitimate votes” on the recall petitions. This recall should have never gone forward in the first place. This sends a signal to the folks in WI to put some Republicans on the elections board to make sure this never happens again. All this expense and headache could have been averted if these Dem’s were held in check. I am a Texan but was watching this election closely last night. Make no mistake, this was a clear signal to Dems across the country that the Tea Party is alive and well, we are organized, we have cash and we aren’t afraid to use it to defeat the left. May it continue into November.

neyney on June 6, 2012 at 11:17 AM

You know, seriously, I have seen pictures of Moochie in the last week or so in relatively nice business-style suits. It almost looks like someone staged a major intervention, took away the tranny-hooker outfits and is going to be telling her what to wear until election time. Quite a contrast.

slickwillie2001 on June 6, 2012 at 11:12 AM

Yeah sorry, but the vast majority of Americans find Michelle Obama to be stylish and beautiful and they are right. I’m not a fan of her husband, but homegirls skin, hair and drag are laid for the Gods.

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 11:17 AM

If Walker wins tomorrow, you will have given the biggest scalp so far to the Tea Party because that’s from where Walker has gotten most of his money.

So you’re admitting that “the tea party” is just big corporations pretending to be grassroots? Well, that was easy…

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 11:19 AM

Indeed, both things have occurred to me. Recalls of governers have a notoriously poor batting average. I think its happened three times in American history. And as I’ve noted in this very thread 60% of WI voters, that includes a lot of Democrats don’t believe the recall should have even gone through and an astounding 17% of Obama voters cast their ballots for Walker.

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 11:14 AM

He was the first governor in history to survive a recall, so I don’t know where you’re getting that “poor batting average” thing from.

changer1701 on June 6, 2012 at 11:19 AM

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 11:14 AM

Wow. You are such a hyprocrite. Would you care to address the 18% of voters from out-of-state? The out-of-state Union offcials, the organizing for America poll watchers, the Obama Administration/DOJ/Politboro monitoring the election?

Of course you won’t.

kingsjester on June 6, 2012 at 11:19 AM

Yeah sorry, but the vast majority of Americans find Michelle Obama to be stylish and beautiful and they are right. I’m not a fan of her husband, but homegirls skin, hair and drag are laid for the Gods.

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 11:17 AM

Cite your source. The majority of Americans think she’s an American-hating, nanny-state meddling, money-spending idiot.

kingsjester on June 6, 2012 at 11:21 AM

Scott Walker is the first US governor to survive a recall election. But while GOP leaders see Tuesday’s results as vindication of his methods, many Wisconsin voters say the recall disgusted them.

That’s the sub headline at the Christian Science Monitor. Notice how they almost blame the GOP for the recall which “disgusted” voters?

changer1701 on June 6, 2012 at 11:21 AM

I for one will never forget or forgive these Dem hacks on the supposed elections board of Wisconsin for allowing Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, felons, deceased people etc…to be counted as “legitimate votes” on the recall petitions. This recall should have never gone forward in the first place. This sends a signal to the folks in WI to put some Republicans on the elections board to make sure this never happens again. All this expense and headache could have been averted if these Dem’s were held in check. I am a Texan but was watching this election closely last night. Make no mistake, this was a clear signal to Dems across the country that the Tea Party is alive and well, we are organized, we have cash and we aren’t afraid to use it to defeat the left. May it continue into November.

neyney on June 6, 2012 at 11:17 AM

Yep, let’s hope that the obvious voting fraud that took place over the last couple of weeks in Wisconsin is still looked into. We Republicans tend to drop investigations of democratic fraud when we win the election. That shouldn’t keep us from enforcing the law.

Those phony last minute registrations need to be looked into hard. The state police need to investigate those buses full of greedy union goons from Illinois and Minnesota.

slickwillie2001 on June 6, 2012 at 11:22 AM

America started her descent to 3rd world status yesterday. In these countries, the rich buy out politicians who continue lying to citizens about how voting against their best interest is actually good for them.

You see this in the middle east where dictators like Assad have an army of unemployed citizens willing to kill themselves over anyone that threatens this dictator.

RIP America- 1775-2012.

Uppereastside on June 6, 2012 at 11:22 AM

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 11:14 AM

Let them concentrate on WI. Obama is ahead in WI, VA, NH, FL and OH in the most recent polls.

Four. More. Years.

Just say NO to PolygaMitt!

inthemiddle on June 6, 2012 at 11:22 AM

Cite your source. The majority of Americans think she’s an American-hating, nanny-state meddling, money-spending idiot.

kingsjester on June 6, 2012 at 11:21 AM

First of all, that’s simply not true. She has very high approval ratings. If that’s what America really thinks about Mrs. Obama, then what on Earth do they think of Anne? She has a lower approval rating!

inthemiddle on June 6, 2012 at 11:24 AM

What really PO’d the unions was making paying union dues optional and refusing to have the state automatically withhold dues from paychecks and fork the proceeds over to union. That enraged the union bosses and the authoritarian socialists.

Letting people have a choice about whether or not to write a check to the unions was unacceptable. Giving people a choice on whether or not to pay dues to a government union is fascism in the minds of socialists.

Unions and socialism are all about removing choices from citizens, about giving them little or no choice, because they might not make the “right” choice. They may not make the choices totalitarian fascist socialists want them to make.

farsighted on June 6, 2012 at 11:11 AM

^^^This. Good companion comment to Resist We Much’s.

PatriotGal2257 on June 6, 2012 at 11:26 AM

They never should have picked this fight in the first place. Big Labor’s David Prosser/JoAnn Kloppenburg failure should have warned them to drop the recall effort against Walker and Kleefisch and instead used the time to keep the threat of their action in reserve. Instead, they played their card, and it turned out to be a deuce in a do-over.

In Texas Hold-em, this is what we call “ending up with the short stack” at the table. Not enough chips/clout to run/bluff another player out of a hand. Now it’s just a matter of time before “big labor’s” bark is all there is and no teeth. You could say they sure “gummed” this one—sheer conservative delight.

Rovin on June 6, 2012 at 11:27 AM

You see this in the middle east where dictators like Assad have an army of unemployed citizens willing to kill themselves over anyone that threatens this dictator.

RIP America- 1775-2012.

Uppereastside on June 6, 2012 at 11:22 AM

You see it in America now will all the leftist Union/OWS pigs that actually assault people and threaten to kill opponents on Twitter.

You pieces of sh1t on the left are amazing in your pathological delusion.

ClassicCon on June 6, 2012 at 11:28 AM

As to the exit polling yesterday in Wi I have a theory. Let’s say you are a Dem voter, you know the MSM is on your side so therefore when a member of the media asks about your vote you will proudly stand up and tell them how you voted (knowing they agree with you in an echo chamber). Now lets take a look at your average Republican voter, he knows the MSM isn’t on his side, he doesn’t want to talk to them, he’s thinking F U! so if asked he isn’t going to tell that reporter anything. Therefore like so many polls these days the exit polling sample is Dem heavy so, of course the race we were told was “too close to call”. I wouldn’t call 7% all that close, would you? The so called +7 that Obama is supposed to enjoy in WI over Romney is probably from the same sampling. I predict that WI will turn red in November. I never write off any blue state as long as fed up people live there. I’d say the average WI voter is pretty disgusted with the Dems right now judging by yesterday’s vote. Pass the popcorn, this is going to be interesting.

neyney on June 6, 2012 at 11:28 AM

RIP America- 1775-2012.

Uppereastside on June 6, 2012 at 11:22 AM

Didn’t I see you bawling on TV last night?

MNHawk on June 6, 2012 at 11:29 AM

First of all, that’s simply not true. She has very high approval ratings. If that’s what America really thinks about Mrs. Obama, then what on Earth do they think of Anne? She has a lower approval rating!

inthemiddle on June 6, 2012 at 11:24 AM

Cite your sources, child.

kingsjester on June 6, 2012 at 11:30 AM

I hope Michelle wears the most expensive outfit possible (courtesy of taxpayers) as a big middle finger!

inthemiddle on June 6, 2012 at 9:02 AM

And, this would be a departure from her existence over the past 3.5 years, HOW ??
She has always been a walking, talking big middle finger to our great country, if you ask me !!

pambi on June 6, 2012 at 11:30 AM

Let them concentrate on WI. Obama is ahead in WI, VA, NH, FL and OH in the most recent polls.

Four. More. Years.

Just say NO to PolygaMitt!

inthemiddle on June 6, 2012 at 11:22 AM

I’d like to co-sign, but I can’t abide the Mormon bashing. It doesn’t really do anything for us and buys into logics that justify other oppressions against vulnerable groups. Keep it intellectually consistent.

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 11:30 AM

Indeed, both things have occurred to me. Recalls of governers have a notoriously poor batting average. I think its happened three times in American history. And as I’ve noted in this very thread 60% of WI voters, that includes a lot of Democrats don’t believe the recall should have even gone through and an astounding 17% of Obama voters cast their ballots for

Or had you not noticed that every politicians spends more than half their time fundraising instead of actually governing (I know, I know, the only politician who fundraises is Obama, its amazing how he’s the only politician who does the things all politicians do for you people).

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 11:14 AM

And in both other cases, the governor in question was recalled, so Walker makes history indeed by Actually surviving the recall. Therefore the whole thing is an even more epic fail for the dimtards and the unions, and a historic one at that :)…

As for O and his fundraising habits, note that he doesn”t do anything else but fundraise, then he cries foil when the Republicans raise ‘big money’ and demoniza the KOch brothers bot not Soros..heh, some money ‘evil’ than others :)…

jimver on June 6, 2012 at 11:31 AM

RIP America The Obama Cult- 1775 2008-2012.

Uppereastside on June 6, 2012 at 11:22 AM

Fixed it to reflect reality.

kingsjester on June 6, 2012 at 11:31 AM

Keep it intellectually consistent.

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 11:30 AM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH…

ClassicCon on June 6, 2012 at 11:32 AM

Let them concentrate on WI. Obama is ahead in WI, VA, NH, FL and OH in the most recent polls.

Four. More. Years.

Just say NO to PolygaMitt!

imacoward on June 6, 2012 at 11:22 AM

Oh, little coward. Do you really want to go the polygamy route, what with your President’s baby daddy having 4 baby mamas, 3 of which were at the same time? You know, Montana’s governor was dumb enough to go there, just to have reality slap him upside his head.

But don’t worry, boy, you do still have your polls to cling to.

MNHawk on June 6, 2012 at 11:32 AM

So yes, it is quite clear that having deep pockets impacts elections. Or had you not noticed that every politicians spends more than half their time fundraising instead of actually governing (I know, I know, the only politician who fundraises is Obama, its amazing how he’s the only politician who does the things all politicians do for you people). The rules are the rules, but lets stop calling it anything but corporatist rule at this point. And that includes the Wall Street-bought 2008 Obama campaign and the failed corpratist-lite Administration he’s run.

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 11:14 AM

The thing is, in merely a year, Walker has already profoundly affected both Wisconsin’s economy and state budgets with his proposals. In three years, Obama has had very little effect, primarily because all of his focus was on increased spending projects with no actual fiscal policy. Hell, he still hasn’t passed a budget in three years.

Now, you might ask what that has to do with your point. Well, Walker has spent a LOT less time at fundraisers than Barack Obama has, and still won, by a considerable margin. True grassroots support doesn’t require fundraising, because the money will follow as a result of passion, rather than coercion. That’s why Scott Walker got so much money, because the passion to support him was out there. In Obama’s case, he only has the money because he spends all his time holding lavish dinners for the 1%.

That said, I’m glad we can agree that Barack Obama’s campaign has been a complete sham, relying heavily on the very segments of society that he denigrates. You guys should be looking at Cory Booker if you want a true reformer.

MadisonConservative on June 6, 2012 at 11:33 AM

I’d like to co-sign, but I can’t abide the Mormon bashing. It doesn’t really do anything for us and buys into logics that justify other oppressions against vulnerable groups. Keep it intellectually consistent.

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 11:30 AM

Thank you. Puts you several grades above the rest of the liberal trolls, and even above a few of the conservatives who have gone that despicable route.

MadisonConservative on June 6, 2012 at 11:34 AM

Keep it intellectually consistent.

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 11:30 AM

/snort

but..but…my polls my polls…see my polls…Romney going from 10 down nationally to even…my polls…

MNHawk on June 6, 2012 at 11:34 AM

Let them concentrate on WI. Obama is ahead in WI, VA, NH, FL and OH in the most recent polls.

In the interest of civility, I’d like to agree with you, but then we’d both be wrong.

Romney will win every one of those states in November.

matthew8787 on June 6, 2012 at 11:35 AM

As for O and his fundraising habits, note that he doesn”t do anything else but fundraise, then he cries foil when the Republicans raise ‘big money’ and demoniza the KOch brothers bot not Soros..heh, some money ‘evil’ than others :)…

jimver on June 6, 2012 at 11:31 AM

Quite right. From refusing to keep his pledge to limit himself to public financing to appointing Wall Street cronies to this Administration Obama has killed any credibility had had in critiquing the way capital has corrupted our electoral and political processes in ways that favor the uber wealthy. What’s insane is that, despite that, you all think he’s a communist or even a socialist.

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 11:35 AM

Was? Did it fall under the hammer?

OmahaConservative on June 6, 2012 at 10:42 AM

Yep, race baited one too many times.

Bmore on June 6, 2012 at 11:36 AM

You see this in the middle east where dictators like Assad have an army of unemployed citizens willing to kill themselves over anyone that threatens this dictator.

Uppereastside on June 6, 2012 at 11:22 AM

You saw that in Wisconsin where unions had an army of unemployed citizens willing to humiliate themselves over anyone that threatened union control of the Wisconsin political machine.

MadisonConservative on June 6, 2012 at 11:36 AM

RIP America- 1775-2012.

Uppereastside on June 6, 2012 at 11:22 AM

Didn’t I see you bawling on TV last night?

MNHawk on June 6, 2012 at 11:29 AM

Leftwing drama queen histrionics on display. You’d think someone just shot their pet puppy in the head.

farsighted on June 6, 2012 at 11:36 AM

Certainly not a leftist, but come from a proud heritage of union members in my family who have benefited greatly from them.
inthemiddle on June 6, 2012 at 9:20 AM

Well I too come from a family, and I mean all of my extended family including a husband, who were active union members and even leaders. I worked in admin for the UAW and family members were stewards in several unions. And I’m here to tell you that since the 1950s there has been nothing to be proud of as far as unions are concerned. They helped run the auto and steel industries into the ground.
And the leadership cares nothing for the worker, I know, I heard it first hand. I’m fasmiliar with the UAW, NEA, Steelworkers, Longshoremen, and Teamsters unions and wouldn’t give a cent to any of them. You keep remembering the “good old days” if you want, but don’t pretend they mean anything today.

Deanna on June 6, 2012 at 11:37 AM

Keep it intellectually consistent.

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 11:30 AM

So you’re admitting that “the tea party” is just big corporations pretending to be grassroots? Well, that was easy…

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 11:19 AM

See, now you just struck out. You were doing so well…

MadisonConservative on June 6, 2012 at 11:37 AM

Pic of the Day: Obama & The Dead Man’s Claw

http://predicthistunpredictpast.blogspot.com/2012/06/pic-of-day-obama-dead-mans-claw.html

M2RB: Lenny Breau plays Jerry Reed’s “The Claw”
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[Again, thanks everyone]

Resist We Much on June 6, 2012 at 11:38 AM

Yeah sorry, but the vast majority of Americans find Michelle Obama to be stylish and beautiful and they are right.

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 11:17 AM

Uh, no. Yuck.

That’s not a partisan thing. Most 1st Ladies are relatively homely. See: Bush, Barbara.

Good Solid B-Plus on June 6, 2012 at 11:38 AM

Leftwing drama queen histrionics on display. You’d think someone just shot their pet puppy in the head.

farsighted on June 6, 2012 at 11:36 AM

Please, no homophobia.

/s

inthemiddle on June 6, 2012 at 11:39 AM

What’s insane is that, despite that, you all think he’s a communist or even a socialist.

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 11:35 AM

What’s insane is that you think someone can’t advocate and try to pass far left, socialist policies while still raising billions of dollars from “greedy corporations.”

Good Solid B-Plus on June 6, 2012 at 11:41 AM

I’m not sure if this has been pointed out yet, but look at the claim that the left is making today:

“The evil rich elitist Republicans are buying elections!!1 Why don’t we just go back to restricting the vote to property owners???”

The complaint is masked as an appeal to equality – those of modest means are being denied meaningful participation in the political process.

But let’s unpack the implications: How exactly is the Republican money (ignoring, arguendo, the union money and unreported in-kind contributions) turned into votes?

Are they suggesting that the right is literally bribing citizens into voting Republican? I haven’t seen anyone making that argument, and considering a complete lack of evidence suggesting this, I think we can safely discount it.

What is left? The only thing I can think of is that the right spent money to fund campaign ads which convinced a majority of voters to support Walker.

It seems that, according to the left, your average voter is unable to make decisions on the merits. He is incapable of weighing the issues or examining the results of policies. No, he simply votes for whoever spends the most money on campaign ads.

At the core of the liberal vision, then is this – most people are too stupid to make their own political choices. There needs to be some system in place to restrain the stupidity of the voters so that proper outcomes can be assured.

You can make this argument if you want to, libs, but please, spare us from complaints about how the elites want to manipulate the system at the expense of normal people. Pot, meet kettle.

sadarj on June 6, 2012 at 11:41 AM

but homegirls skin, hair and drag are laid for the Gods.

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 11:17 AM

Sounds like Chris Matthews describing his President. I think. Is that English?

MNHawk on June 6, 2012 at 11:43 AM

What’s insane is that, despite that, you all think he’s a communist or even a socialist.

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 11:35 AM

Are you saying corporatism cannot employ socialism?

MadisonConservative on June 6, 2012 at 11:44 AM

RIP America- 1775-2012.

Uppereastside on June 6, 2012 at 11:22 AM

Oh, good grief. Take a few Midol already.

You got to see what “Democracy looks like!” You wanted the recall vote, princess.

People are sick of PUBLIC UNIONS demanding more and more when cities, states, and the country are/is broke. You act like it is some horrible thing. Please answer these questions:

What was FDR’s beef with public unions?

What was the problem that George Meany, the president of the AFL-CIO, had with public unions?

What was the problem that Arnold Zander, the Wisconsin union organiser who became the first president of the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees, had with public unions?

Why did the last card-carrying Socialist Mayor of a major US city, Frank Zeidler, warn that the rise of unions in government work put a competing power in charge of public business next to elected officials and that government unions “can mean considerable loss of control over the budget, and hence over tax rates?

Why does every public employee in Wisconsin TODAY have infinitely more collective bargaining rights than the 2 million slaving for Boss Obama?

Can Federal workers collectively bargain on wages?

Can Federal workers collectively bargain on pensions?

Can Federal workers collectively bargain on healthcare?

Who was the President and to what political party did the majority in Congress belong when Congress and the President stripped Federal public union workers of collective bargaining rights on anything other than workplace environment?

As I told you the other night, I hate weak and whiny men and after 3 1/2 years of listening to you little wimps whine about Bush, mean, old Republicans, the Tea Party, libertarians, tsunamis, the Arab Spring, Angela Merkel (who has bigger stones than any of the boys on your side — so does Hillary, for that matter), the weather (It’s too cold! It’s too hot! WTF is this? Goldilocks and the Three Little Bears?), and the Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious Stimulus Act of 2009, which would have been really supercalifragilisticexpialidocious if we had spent $10 trillion instead of $800+ billion, blah, blah, blah, whine, whine, whine, I really just wish all of you would tie a bunch of tyres together and float on over to Fideltopia.

Hell, I’ll even spare the Cuban government the expense and provide you with a rice cooker gratis before you leave.

Resist We Much on June 6, 2012 at 11:45 AM

the vast majority of Americans find Michelle Obama to be stylish and beautiful and they are right.

No they don’t. A vast majority of Americans don’t want to go on record with some pollster as criticizing the first black FLOTUS on superficial issues such as her looks and style.
And many are afraid to go on record with anybody about her abrasive, belligerent, entitled, elitist, off-putting personality.

Or do you think she’s “nice” because the cover of Redbook told you she was?

Right Mover on June 6, 2012 at 11:45 AM

The Senate flipping is irrelevant.

First the (D) wont even sit in on a single vote. Legislature doesn’t meet until after the Presidential election.

Secondly, with redistricting, the (R)’s will pick up 1 and probably 2 seats, with that being one of them, as the district was redrawn more republican.

So its not even a win for Decmorats when they win something. lol

Ca97 on June 6, 2012 at 11:46 AM

The thing is, in merely a year, Walker has already profoundly affected both Wisconsin’s economy and state budgets with his proposals. In three years, Obama has had very little effect, primarily because all of his focus was on increased spending projects with no actual fiscal policy. Hell, he still hasn’t passed a budget in three years.

Come now. Walker is a governor of a state that was far less exposed to the housing crisis and, because of its large number of union households, had a population with good wages and savings to make their way through the crisis. Now I, for one, agree that public school unions need to be broken up and the entire secondary education system needs to be reworked, but not in the way that the GOP and the right would envision. An entirely private controlled education would eventually lead to an educational system that only produced skills related to particular fields. And before you say “that’s the point” I’ll remind you that this thing we love, this thing called western civilization was not born out of people who only had technical skills and did HVAC repair, systems support or marketing. It was borne out of people who combined the technical with the sublime, the mathematical with the artistic, the functional with the inspirational and the productive with the superfluous. That is the story of western civilization and the private/productivity education system is going to turn us into something else, something less than. Its a significantly greater cultural crisis than the fight over gay marriage

But I digress. Obama, on the other hand, became President of the United States at the precise moment the worst asset crash since the 1930s. That we didn’t slide into a 1930s style depression is to his credit and even GOP governors like Bob McDonnel have said that the stimulus helped. I’ll add that a 1/3 of the dreaded stimulus was supply side tax cuts. What would a GOP president or Congress have done to so/lve huge structural problems that were over a decade in the making? Given even more money to banks? Ended all taxes and shut the federal government down? Maybe they would’ve destroyed NPR, that sure would’ve helped the government. If Romney wins and you all go after all the parts of the budget you use to demonize the left, you go after NPR, you get rid of all federal education funding, end the NEA. What will you then do when none of that solves the deficit or increases employment? I’m genuinely curious.

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 11:46 AM

Please, no homophobia.

inthemiddle on June 6, 2012 at 11:39 AM

I didn’t recalling calling you gay after watching you on TV last night. Whiny little b**** maybe, but not gay. Laughing at the thought of you being an enforcer for your union, but not gay?

Do you perhaps have some issues to work through, and thereby you’re a little sensitive?

MNHawk on June 6, 2012 at 11:46 AM

RIP America- 1775-2012.

Uppereastside on June 6, 2012 at 11:22 AM

By the way, you can thank your public school teachers’ unions for your EPIC FAIL on history.

Resist We Much on June 6, 2012 at 11:46 AM

America started her descent to 3rd world status yesterday. In these countries, the rich buy out politicians who continue lying to citizens about how voting against their best interest is actually good for them.

Uppereastside on June 6, 2012 at 11:22 AM

Please. When your President has set a $1 billion fund-raising goal for his re-election campaign, the roughly $50 million spent in Wisconsin on the recall is chump change. In California they spent $50 million on a single proposition (Prop 29), increasing the cigarette tax to “fund cancer research.” (Proposition’s losing, btw, which shows that money can’t always buy you love.)

de rigueur on June 6, 2012 at 11:48 AM

Are you saying corporatism cannot employ socialism?

MadisonConservative on June 6, 2012 at 11:44 AM

Considering that corporatism is about consolidating resources amongst a small set of elite corporations/plutocrats. Then no, I don’t think corporatism can employ socialism.

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 11:48 AM

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 11:46 AM

MUST you write a novel every time you post? If brevity is the soal of wit, you’re in deep trouble.

kingsjester on June 6, 2012 at 11:48 AM

Please, no homophobia.

/s

inthemiddle on June 6, 2012 at 11:39 AM

Ummm…

Drama queen

What is a drama queen?

And indirectly from Wiki… Histrionic personality disorder.

farsighted on June 6, 2012 at 11:48 AM

I didn’t recalling calling you gay after watching you on TV last night. Whiny little b**** maybe, but not gay. Laughing at the thought of you being an enforcer for your union, but not gay?

Do you perhaps have some issues to work through, and thereby you’re a little sensitive?

MNHawk on June 6, 2012 at 11:46 AM

It’s called sarcasm. Typically takes a higher level of reasoning to detect. Thus, I’m not surprised by your reaction.

inthemiddle on June 6, 2012 at 11:48 AM

Ummm…

Drama queen

What is a drama queen?

And indirectly from Wiki… Histrionic personality disorder.

farsighted on June 6, 2012 at 11:48 AM

See my above response to MNHawk and apply it to yourself as well.

inthemiddle on June 6, 2012 at 11:50 AM

inthemiddle on June 6, 2012 at 11:48 AM

Next time you attempt sarcasm, put stars beside the comment, in order that we might appreciate such a great intellect…child.

kingsjester on June 6, 2012 at 11:51 AM

What’s insane is that, despite that, you all think he’s a communist or even a socialist.

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 11:35 AM

The people who run communist regimes always live the lives of billionaires. Just because King Barry wants us plebes living a government provided McLife doesn’t mean he plans on doing so.

Kataklysmic on June 6, 2012 at 11:51 AM

It was borne out of people who combined the technical with the sublime, the mathematical with the artistic, the functional with the inspirational and the productive with the superfluous. That is the story of western civilization and the private/productivity education system is going to turn us into something else, something less than. Its a significantly greater cultural crisis than the fight over gay marriage

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 11:46 AM

And yet, somehow, almost all of the great art and literature from Western history was produced without a public school system and without subsidies for the arts.

Good Solid B-Plus on June 6, 2012 at 11:52 AM

Has anyone heard from Richard Trumka this morning?

Night Owl on June 6, 2012 at 10:44 AM

I sure did.

Then I flushed.

JohnGalt23 on June 6, 2012 at 11:52 AM

I hope Michelle wears the most expensive outfit possible (courtesy of taxpayers) as a big middle finger!

inthemiddle on June 6, 2012 at 9:02 AM

Maybe Prada makes a circus tent.

Kataklysmic on June 6, 2012 at 11:52 AM

I’d like to see the trend from WI go nationwide: Are you pro union…or pro choice?

CitizenEgg on June 6, 2012 at 11:52 AM

Larry O’Donnell said on msnbc that the winner last night was President Obama. A win like last night landslide is whats comming this nov. for mitt.

Rook on June 6, 2012 at 11:52 AM

Considering that corporatism is about consolidating resources amongst a small set of elite corporations/plutocrats. Then no, I don’t think corporatism can employ socialism.

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 11:48 AM

In practice, that’s usually how those regimes operate, so I don’t see any reason the two philosophies can’t work in concert.

Good Solid B-Plus on June 6, 2012 at 11:53 AM

Yeah sorry, but the vast majority of Americans find Michelle Obama to be stylish and beautiful and they are right. I’m not a fan of her husband, but homegirls skin, hair and drag are laid for the Gods.

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 11:17 AM

Beautiful?…I can’t imagine a bigger torture and nightmare than waking up next to that face every morning, traumatic indeed…huge derriere and all aside….As for stylish, sure, if the Kardashians are your fashion gurus, you can call her ‘stylish’ :)….it amuses me how the Kardashians pass as stlylish in the US :)…..in France what she wears would be considered eclectic and tacky at best, and they do know a thing or two about style and fashion there…

jimver on June 6, 2012 at 11:53 AM

America started her descent to 3rd world status yesterday on Nov. 4, 2008.

Hopefully it’s not too late to start reversing course.

Right Mover on June 6, 2012 at 11:53 AM

And yet, somehow, almost all of the great art and literature from Western history was produced without a public school system and without subsidies for the arts.

Good Solid B-Plus on June 6, 2012 at 11:52 AM

You are familiar with artistic patronage aren’t you? And you do know that nearly all noble wealth was linked to the power and whim of the Crown right? Just because those states weren’t liberal democracies doesn’t mean they didn’t subsidize the arts. And are you claiming that no brilliant art or music has come out of the West since the New Deal? Even considering the importance of public music education to the careers of great musicians? OK then…

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 11:54 AM

the vast majority of Americans find Michelle Obama to be stylish and beautiful and they are right.

No they don’t. A vast majority of Americans don’t want to go on record with some pollster as criticizing the first black FLOTUS on superficial issues such as her looks and style.
And many are afraid to go on record with anybody about her abrasive, belligerent, entitled, elitist, off-putting personality.

Or do you think she’s “nice” because the cover of Redbook told you she was?

Right Mover on June 6, 2012 at 11:45 AM

I have to admit, she has had an enormous amount of work done since this picture: Mooch & Barry

slickwillie2001 on June 6, 2012 at 11:54 AM

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