Big Labor drops a do-over deuce

posted at 8:41 am on June 6, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Well, well, well.  It turns out that the majority of Wisconsin voters don’t sympathize much with the plight of poor, downtrodden … government workers.  More than a year after public-employee unions in Wisconsin and the labor movement nationwide tried to make an example of Republicans in Wisconsin for enacting collective-bargaining reforms — which have save the state $1 billion already — they have won exactly one seat in the state Senate, and potentially a recount in another:

All eyes Wednesday will be on the 21st District. Results posted early Wednesday showed Lehman with 36,255 votes to 35,476 for Wanggaard with 100% of precincts reporting. The margin of 779 could bring a recount.

In a statement, Senate Democratic Leader Mark Miller said:

“Tonight, Wisconsinites across the 21st Senate District elected a new State Senator. By electing a Democratic Senate, the people of Wisconsin have opened the door to responsible dialogue and if needed provide a bulwark against continued political extremism, and restored checks and balances to the Wisconsin Legislature. I look forward to working again with Senator-elect Lehman in the State Senate in the coming months.”

Wanggaard’s campaign manager Justin Phillips issued his own statement, hinting at a recount:

“We owe it to all of Senator Wanggaard’s supporters and the voters of Wisconsin to thoroughly examine the election and its results and act accordingly once we have all of the information.”

The results bring an end – for now – to recall elections of lawmakers after the November 2010 election of Gov. Scott Walker and the firestorm that followed. Tuesday’s results follow a series of recall elections in 2011 when Democrats picked up two seats in recalls involving nine senators, cutting into the Republican’s majority. The majority slipped to a tie after Galloway’s resignation.

If Lehman’s win holds, Democrats assume a 17-16 majority, at least until next November’s elections. It’s unknown whether the Senate will convene in a special session before then.

That’s correct — the Wisconsin Senate will be out of session until 2013.  In November, 16 of the 33 seats will be up for grabs, and thanks to the redistricting that will be in place for the first time in that election, Republicans are supposed to pick up at least two seats.  The unions spent millions of dollars and over a year’s worth of effort to get a temporary one-seat majority in a chamber that will never meet in session.   And that’s assuming that their lone win from last night holds up in a recount. Congratulations, Big Labor!

What of all the other races?   Unions and Democrats contested ten state Senate races over the past year, one Supreme Court position, and the Governor and Lt. Governor offices.  They ended up farther back than when they started.  Scott Walker improved his 2010 performance by 125,000 votes, and Barrett lost by a bigger percentage than in 2010.  Rebecca Kleefisch trounced her opponent, who hadn’t even been on record as voting until 2008.

This led to an inevitable amount of whining afterward about Democrats being outspent 7-1, but that only looks at the spending from the campaigns, and only in the gubernatorial election.  Unions dropped millions into Wisconsin in an effort to punish politicians who had the temerity to impose some fiscal discipline on the government class.  They calculated that voters would find bureaucrats more sympathetic than the taxpayers getting fleeced by the WEAC Trust and the PEUs.  They bet wrong.

Politico calls them the biggest loser, and for good reason.  The unions put on a great demonstration of their impotence over the last year and a half:

Big Labor went all in on the Wisconsin recall — putting millions of dollars, months of organizing and its reputation as a political superpower on the line to defeat GOP Gov. Scott Walker.

Then they got trounced on Election Day.

Walker’s decisive victory over Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett on Tuesday has demonstrated the vulnerability of a long-formidable movement whose ranks are thinning across the country. The failed recall attempt has energized organized labor’s foes and emboldened lawmakers to pick fights with unions in other states. And it has underscored the fact that unions — a potent source of political power and dollars for Democrats — aren’t going to be the left’s counter to conservative groups’ outside cash in November.

They never should have picked this fight in the first place.  Big Labor’s David Prosser/JoAnn Kloppenburg failure should have warned them to drop the recall effort against Walker and Kleefisch and instead used the time to keep the threat of their action in reserve.  Instead, they played their card, and it turned out to be a deuce in a do-over.

Update: It was ten state Senate races, not eight, as Steve Eggleston reminds me.  In the comments, Steve notes that the margin in that close loss will be about 1% of the vote, likely too wide for a recount to matter.


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It’s a beautiful morning in Wisconsin. I’m keeping my “I Stand with Scott Walker” sign out for a while.

ineedahobby on June 6, 2012 at 8:44 AM

Sweet!

Electrongod on June 6, 2012 at 8:46 AM

Big Labor butthurt! Happy Wednesday!

search4truth on June 6, 2012 at 8:48 AM

All eyes Wednesday will be on the 21st District. Results posted early Wednesday showed Lehman with 36,255 votes to 35,476 for Wanggaard with 100% of precincts reporting. The margin of 779 could bring a recount.

Not going to happen, or at least it shouldn’t. The margin is 1.08%, more than double the margin Kloppenburg tried to overturn last year, so it would cost Wanggaard $670 with the Racine County taxpayers picking up the rest.

Steve Eggleston on June 6, 2012 at 8:48 AM

Uncomfortable fact: WI is still nationally blue with Obama +7 over Romney in latest poll.

inthemiddle on June 6, 2012 at 8:48 AM

Not only did Big Labor get their asses handed to them, they made Scott Walker into a conservative hero and a big star in the GOP and conservative movement. He’s in a far stronger position than he was a year ago which was clearly not the desired outcome.

Doughboy on June 6, 2012 at 8:49 AM

Congrats, Wisconsin. You did the right thing.

Now if only the Republicans nationwide would heed the call of the people and demonstrate some leadership instead of “reaching across the aisle:.

gasmeterguy on June 6, 2012 at 8:50 AM

Looking forward to seeing the long faces at work this morning… ;)

WhoU4 on June 6, 2012 at 8:50 AM

Walker spent 88% of the money in the campaign and won 53% of the vote. This is exactly the democracy the Founders envisioned apparently. If you’re not alligned with billionaires is there even a point of running for office anymore?

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 8:50 AM

This led to an inevitable amount of whining afterward about Democrats being outspent 7-1, but that only looks at the spending from the campaigns, and only in the gubernatorial election.

Yes, and furthermore Scott Walker would not have to have spent one damn dime to keep his job were it not for the recall fanatics. It’s like if I poison the grass in your front yard and then when I see you pay to have a new lawn installed I scold you for doing so.

radjah shelduck on June 6, 2012 at 8:50 AM

Who paid for the 400 lawyers that poured into the state to do one of their recounts?The people of Wisconsin must have more brain cells than the DNC and big labor thought.

docflash on June 6, 2012 at 8:50 AM

I’m thinking that these donkeys are the only ones left who still think they’re the smart guys in the room.

Well, I always say the beatings will continue until morale improves. We better shore up the ol’ woodshed so it can withstand all the use it’s going to get.

platypus on June 6, 2012 at 8:51 AM

And 2 CA cities voted against them, too !!
Awesomeness !,

pambi on June 6, 2012 at 8:51 AM

The best part? Obama will have to spend a fortune to try to win Wi., a state he should never even have to campaign in…this harms Obama in so many ways.

right2bright on June 6, 2012 at 8:51 AM

Uncomfortable fact: Obama up by +12 in PA – Romney’s “goose is cooked” as the AK Snowbilly would say.

inthemiddle on June 6, 2012 at 8:51 AM

Ineedahobby — Good for you!
It’s a monumental victory which transcends all American political news for quite some time. What one good man can do.

balkanmom on June 6, 2012 at 8:52 AM

The unions spent millions of dollars and over a year’s worth of effort to get a temporary one-seat majority in a chamber that will never meet in session.

And the unions that brought you this recall, also made it possible for the unknown Lt. Gov. to appear on television and get national notice by conservatives all over the country. She couldn’t have bought that publicity with a million dollars.

Don’t cha just love her? I do. God bless this rising star of the republican party, she is Clean, Pretty and Articulate.

Fleuries on June 6, 2012 at 8:52 AM

And the SCOTUS 0-care decision is only a few weeks away.

Oh boy…

Rixon on June 6, 2012 at 8:52 AM

have save (para 1)= have saved

ted c on June 6, 2012 at 8:52 AM

Congratulations, Wisconsin!

May the aroma of this victory spread all across this great county of ours!

We’re are sick and tired of being sick and tired – and we’re not going to take it anymore!

ontheright on June 6, 2012 at 8:52 AM

Regarding the Senate pickup and the costs, as I said earlier this morning:

Congrats, ‪#wiunion‬ – you just burned $35 million to make sure the Senate follows its schedule and does nothing in the summer of 2012.

That $35 million was over 2 years of recalls, and soon-to-be Senate majority leader Mark Miller will preside over exactly zero days of Senate sessions as the legislative calendar is done for 2012.

Steve Eggleston on June 6, 2012 at 8:52 AM

Uncomfortable fact fantasy: WI is still nationally blue with Obama +7 over Romney in latest poll.

inthemiddle on June 6, 2012 at 8:48 AM

FIFY

platypus on June 6, 2012 at 8:52 AM

I’m a diabetic.
I had to take an extra Glucovance pill this morning to insure I don’t go into diabetic shock from the overdose of sweet, sweet libtard tears I’ve been guzzling all night.

VelvetElvis on June 6, 2012 at 8:52 AM

The best part? Obama will have to spend a fortune to try to win Wi., a state he should never even have to campaign in…this harms Obama in so many ways.

right2bright on June 6, 2012 at 8:51 AM

Actually Romney will now feel compelled to spend a fortune in WI to try to turn in it red…a feat that will never happen. All that wasted money could go elsewhere.

inthemiddle on June 6, 2012 at 8:53 AM

This is what democracy looks like. :-)

Punchenko on June 6, 2012 at 8:53 AM

So is Barrett going to run against Governor Walker in 2 years?
Come on, Barrett, third time is the charm!!!

HeHeHe…

barnone on June 6, 2012 at 8:53 AM

Uncomfortable fact: WI is still nationally blue with Obama +7 over Romney in latest poll.

inthemiddle on June 6, 2012 at 8:48 AM

I know it! That same poll says Walker and Barrett are neck-and-neck this morning. To quote AP’s favorite line … Dude. I’m worried

And it has underscored the fact that unions — a potent source of political power and dollars for Democrats — aren’t going to be the left’s counter to conservative groups’ outside cash in November.

So let me see if I have this straight …
taxpayers contributing to political parties and PAC’s = outside cash
Unions spending confiscated dues money the same way = inside cash

That about right politico?

Lost in Jersey on June 6, 2012 at 8:53 AM

This led to an inevitable amount of whining afterward about Democrats being outspent 7-1, but that only looks at the spending from the campaigns, and only in the gubernatorial election.

The 7-1 number also doesn’t include money spent by out of state independent groups. A figure that heavily favors Walker. There’s no way you can spin out of this, the right is essentially arguing that Democracy is for sale to the highest bidder. Clearly what the founders intended.

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 8:53 AM

The spin from the left on this is amusing (it would be even MORE amusing if they weren’t so darn SERIOUS about it).

Here are some fun quotes from the FB page of “I will get more”Likes”than Scott Walker” (which, BTW, they didn’t – 12,443 likes vs. 90,169 for Scott Walker):

Um…not the first. I don’t know about other governors, but we failed to recall Rick Snyder too. But, whatever, I’ve given up on the idiots in this country. I’ll vote Dem in November, but after that, I’m looking at Vancouver, and watching this dump burn from its own stupidity.

‎8 to 1 spending advantage, with that kind of big money power I’m surprised he didn’t win by even more. Let’s let this ahole finish his term, screw over more people, etc. One thing is for sure, Walker will not be the “healer” this state needs, he won’t be bringing people back together, and his flawed political ideologies will not be creating any more jobs. He will be using this recall as his excuse in two years (mark my words) saying had he not had to go through that we would have more jobs. The sad part is their are morons in this state that will believe it. I’m here to say as a former independent who was disgusted by the tactics/antics of Walker that I dare a fking Rethuglican to talk shit to me today or any day until democracy is restored, and the righteous prevail. This is so f***ed up, I’m embarassed to live in this backwards state.

Fact: There are more registered Democrats than Republicans in Wisconsin.

Fact: The voter turnout generated by Democrats was HUGE. Fact: And we’re seeing an across the board GIANT win for ALL Republican candidates? I mean a REALLY, REALLY large victory margin? Head scratcher huh? What do you suppose would explain that?

Well, here’s another Fact: Forty-six Wisconsin counties and 3,000 voting machines are being controlled by a two-person company operating out of a strip mall in Minnesota. Do check out the well known Presidential candidate neighbor right down the hall.”

Religious_Zealot on June 6, 2012 at 8:53 AM

And the unions that brought you this recall, also made it possible for the unknown Lt. Gov. to appear on television and get national notice by conservatives all over the country. She couldn’t have bought that publicity with a million dollars.

Don’t cha just love her? I do. God bless this rising star of the republican party, she is Clean, Pretty and Articulate.

Fleuries on June 6, 2012 at 8:52 AM

This.

platypus on June 6, 2012 at 8:54 AM

I’m a diabetic.
I had to take an extra Glucovance pill this morning to insure I don’t go into diabetic shock from the overdose of sweet, sweet libtard tears I’ve been guzzling all night.

VelvetElvis on June 6, 2012 at 8:52 AM

Did you see Barrett getting slapped in the face by a thug Democrat voter after his concession speech? It was priceless.

Punchenko on June 6, 2012 at 8:55 AM

Uncomfortable fact: WI is still nationally blue with Obama +7 over Romney in latest poll.

inthemiddle on June 6, 2012 at 8:48 AM

yes…and yesterday the recall was 50-50…to close too call…(go sit back on the potty!)

KOOLAID2 on June 6, 2012 at 8:55 AM

Bammy’s 7-point lead can be trimmed if the economy continues to stumble and the GOP ground game is as effective as last night’s.

Have faith…

PA Guy on June 6, 2012 at 8:55 AM

…in latest poll.

inthemiddle on June 6, 2012 at 8:48 AM

LOL

A wise woman once said and Wisconsin proved:

Polls Are Good For Cross-Country Skiers and Strippers

Fallon on June 6, 2012 at 8:55 AM

Like I said in headlines.

This fight was all about forced union dues. Nothing more.

The unions didn’t give a damn about the benefit contributions.

WisRich on June 6, 2012 at 8:56 AM

I AM PUMPED ABOUT NOVEMBER 2012.
WE ARE TAKING THIS COUNTRY BACK!!!!!

balkanmom on June 6, 2012 at 8:56 AM

Uncomfortable fact: WI is still nationally blue with Obama +7 over Romney in latest poll.

If you mean the WI exit polling from yesterday, considering how completely wrong it was in the Walker/Barrett contest, why would you think those numbers have any relation to reality?

TC@LeatherPenguin on June 6, 2012 at 8:56 AM

Oh, and a major omission on my part … forgot to mention

WAY TO GO WISCONSIN!

Thanks for doing what we deep-blue staters have trouble doing. (although I do take small consolation that the 2009 Jersey and Virginia elections sorta started this ball rolling).

Lost in Jersey on June 6, 2012 at 8:56 AM

I’m one of those government workers, and I’m celebrating. Scott Walker saved us from being forced to be a member of a union that just takes our money and funnels it directly to the Democrats.

Unionization is supposed to be an expression of free speech of voluntarily associated groups of workers, not a cartel. The union I used to be forced to join was just a bloodsucking tick on my paycheck.

TBSchemer on June 6, 2012 at 8:57 AM

America is a 40 percent Conservative 40 percent moderate right and 20 percent liberal nation. It is my most fervent prayer that yesterday in Wisconsin marked the beginning of America;s Conservative giant awakening and kicking the Marxist left to the curb where it belongs.

The Progressives have lied, cheated, deceived and manipulated America for decades to obtain the power they currently wield. It’s well past time for Conservative America to take that power back and correct all the disastrous policies the Progressive Marxist left has inflicted on us.

No, America is not a socialist Marxist nation, and it time to send the Progressive Socialist Marxist’s packing.

SWalker on June 6, 2012 at 8:57 AM

here’s no way you can spin out of this, the right is essentially arguing that Democracy is for sale to the highest bidder. Clearly what the founders intended.

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 8:53 AM

Voter turning out to vote was the founders intentions..
And it happened last night…

Spin away…

Electrongod on June 6, 2012 at 8:57 AM

“It’s unknown whether the Senate will convene in a special session before then.”

Can the Senate convene a special session, or is the Governor required to call one for it to happen?

What can the Senate do if the House doesn’t reconvene, which again brings this back to whether the legislature can reconvene if the Governor doesn’t request it?

Dusty on June 6, 2012 at 8:58 AM

On Wisconsin!!!

coldwarrior on June 6, 2012 at 8:58 AM

the schadenfreude is going to be *choice* around these parts.
 
libfreeordie on May 11, 2012 at 8:41 AM

rogerb on June 6, 2012 at 8:58 AM

BOOYAH !BOO-FREAKIN’-YAH !

Suck on that, losers!

M240H on June 6, 2012 at 8:58 AM

Uncomfortable fact: Obama up by +12 in PA – Romney’s “goose is cooked” as the AK Snowbilly would say.

inthemiddle on June 6, 2012 at 8:51 AM

Uncomfortable fact – it’s only June. Long way to go :)

gophergirl on June 6, 2012 at 8:59 AM

Did you see Barrett getting slapped in the face by a thug Democrat voter after his concession speech? It was priceless.

Punchenko on June 6, 2012 at 8:55 AM

Yes!!!
Between that one and the “Democracy died tonight” crybaby, my blood sugar number was flirting with four figures!

VelvetElvis on June 6, 2012 at 8:59 AM

That’s correct — the Wisconsin Senate will be out of session until 2013

someone outta tell howard dean. he thinks its means walker is neutered. LOL

renalin on June 6, 2012 at 8:59 AM

here’s no way you can spin out of this, the right is essentially arguing that Democracy is for sale to the highest bidder. Clearly what the founders intended.

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 8:53 AM

This is so rich coming from someone who supports Obama. You know the campaign that wanted to raise a billion dollars this election.

Hypocrite.

gophergirl on June 6, 2012 at 9:00 AM

Fact: There are more registered Democrats than Republicans in Wisconsin.

Fact: The voter turnout generated by Democrats was HUGE. Fact: And we’re seeing an across the board GIANT win for ALL Republican candidates? I mean a REALLY, REALLY large victory margin? Head scratcher huh? What do you suppose would explain that?

Religious_Zealot on June 6, 2012 at 8:53 AM

Those Gorons don’t realize a couple of things:

- There is no such thing as party registration in Wisconsin. In fact, nobody knows in which party’s primary a voter particpates other than that voter.

- The Republican Party voter turnout was even bigger.

Steve Eggleston on June 6, 2012 at 9:00 AM

Actually Romney will now feel compelled to spend a fortune in WI to try to turn in it red…a feat that will never happen. All that wasted money could go elsewhere.

inthemiddle ontheleft on June 6, 2012 at 8:53 AM

Why won’t it ever happen? Because of one worthless BS poll that the left is desperately clinging to? Walker won twice in the last year and a half. Johnson handily won his Senate race 18 months ago. And Walker’s reforms have been a huge success in the state. Wisconsin is in play. If the Dems want to continue to live in their bubble though, have at it. It’ll make November 6 that much sweeter.

Doughboy on June 6, 2012 at 9:01 AM

Can’t wait to drink the conservative tears on January 20, 2013 when President Obama begins his second four years. I hope Michelle wears the most expensive outfit possible (courtesy of taxpayers) as a big middle finger!

inthemiddle on June 6, 2012 at 9:02 AM

It’s just a great day – I can’t stop smiling :)

gophergirl on June 6, 2012 at 9:02 AM

Can the Senate convene a special session, or is the Governor required to call one for it to happen?

What can the Senate do if the House doesn’t reconvene, which again brings this back to whether the legislature can reconvene if the Governor doesn’t request it?

Dusty on June 6, 2012 at 8:58 AM

Only the Gov can call a special session.

Their temporary Senate majority is absolutely meaningless.

WisRich on June 6, 2012 at 9:03 AM

The 7-1 number also doesn’t include money spent by out of state independent groups. A figure that heavily favors Walker. There’s no way you can spin out of this, the right is essentially arguing that Democracy is for sale to the highest bidder. Clearly what the founders intended.

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 8:53 AM

LOL!!! You and your fellow Democrats better start scrounging around for change and save up enough money to match the GOP dollar for dollar. Citizens United just might have saved our Republic. :-)

Punchenko on June 6, 2012 at 9:03 AM

. I hope Michelle wears the most expensive outfit possible (courtesy of taxpayers) as a big middle finger!

inthemiddle on June 6, 2012 at 9:02 AM

I don’t doubt that you wish this..

It’s who you are.

Electrongod on June 6, 2012 at 9:05 AM

NOMITTNOBAMA 2012

Pragmatic on June 6, 2012 at 9:05 AM

LOL!!! You and your fellow Democrats better start scrounging around for change and save up enough money to match the GOP dollar for dollar.

Why not just return to the property requirements on the right to vote?

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 9:05 AM

The 7-1 number also doesn’t include money spent by out of state independent groups. A figure that heavily favors Walker. There’s no way you can spin out of this, the right is essentially arguing that Democracy is for sale to the highest bidder. Clearly what the founders intended.

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 8:53 AM

You’re the one spinning … and don’t even mention democracy. The left and Big Labor didn’t like democracy in 2010 when Walker and the GOP won. They essentially said to hell with democracy and the people, we want a different result. You and your fellow leftists only like demcracy when it favors you. When you lose you cry and whine and blame everyone but yourselves and your liberty killing agenda.

BTW, where were you when Obama spent nearly a billion dollars getting elected?

darwin on June 6, 2012 at 9:05 AM

Another Big Labor loss was the fact that their candidate for Governor in the recall didn’t even get past the primary.

JediSisko on June 6, 2012 at 9:05 AM

If you’re not alligned with billionaires the will of the majority is there even a point of running for office anymore?

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 8:50 AM

Fixed, as there would never be such a thing as Conservatism or Libertarianism if the Koch Brothers weren’t around.

So how much per year are gullible parents suckered out of per year to attend the university you teach at?

MNHawk on June 6, 2012 at 9:05 AM

I hope Michelle wears the most expensive outfit possible (courtesy of taxpayers)
 
inthemiddle on June 6, 2012 at 9:02 AM

 
I’m calling it. This is just a sockpuppet for hits.
 
There is absolutely no way someone could actually think this.

rogerb on June 6, 2012 at 9:06 AM

Why not just return to the property requirements on the right to vote?

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 9:05 AM

We should. Half the country is now paying for the other half. The half that pays no taxes keeps voting themselves more money from the people who pay taxes.

That’s not exactly “fair” is it? Since the left is all about “fairness” we should do something about it … don’t you think?

darwin on June 6, 2012 at 9:07 AM

It’s just a great day – I can’t stop smiling :)

gophergirl on June 6, 2012 at 9:02 AM

Me too! Would you like some of my schadenfreudeflakes, if you haven’t eaten breakfast yet–I have extra.

hoosiermama on June 6, 2012 at 9:07 AM

GloatFest II on Glenn Beck. :D

hoosiermama on June 6, 2012 at 9:08 AM

Uncomfortable fact: Obama up by +12 in PA

inthemiddle on June 6, 2012 at 8:51 AM

Only one poll, little one. I live in PA, in the Philly suburbs, and PA is winnable for the GOP, with effort.

The purple suburbs will look at the cost of gas, and of the talk of “fairness,” which we know means being soaked to transfer our taxes to money pits like Philadelphia. The burbs are also sick of teachers’ strikes (Neshaminy District being the worst), so any Dem pol supporting public sector unions has trouble.

And then there’s the “war on coal,” which could swing the blue collar coal counties, including Joe Biden’s old home area. (Joe hsa lived in a wealthy suburb of Wilmington, DE for years; no one thinks of him as a native here any more.)

Add in the Catholic vote, most of which doesn’t like the mandate requiring Catholic charities to fund the killing of unborn babies with abortifacient contraceptives through insurance.

And as, rockmom has mentioned, there are hundreds of thousands of Polish Americans here, who might not think the One’s “apology” for the “Polish death camps” comment was enough.

The top of the ticket with Obama is Junior Casey, running for re-election. He has the IQ of a potted plant, and has voted in lock-step with Obama. Casey will have to explain his support for killing coal, as well as the contraceptive mandate (Casey claims to be “pro-life.”) His opponent is a pro-life former coal company executive.

And we now have a voter ID law, so the New Black Panthers and the Dem machine in Philly will be somewhat limited in what they can do. Channel 29 will no doubt be following the NBP around again.

Wethal on June 6, 2012 at 9:09 AM

Uncomfortable fact: Obama up by +12 in PA – Romney’s “goose is cooked” as the AK Snowbilly would say.

inthemiddle
ontheleft on June 6, 2012 at 8:51 AM

Uncomfortable fact: Obama won PA by 11 in 2008. If you honestly believe he’s going to actually increase that margin this November, I have some Solyndra stock to sell you.

Doughboy on June 6, 2012 at 9:09 AM

Walker spent 88% of the money in the campaign and won 53% of the vote. This is exactly the democracy the Founders envisioned apparently. If you’re not alligned with billionaires is there even a point of running for office anymore?

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 8:50 AM

I’m fresh out of Kleenex, but I could spare a square of toilet paper if you need it.

Muahaha!

Naturally Curly on June 6, 2012 at 9:09 AM

Me too! Would you like some of my schadenfreudeflakes, if you haven’t eaten breakfast yet–I have extra.

hoosiermama on June 6, 2012 at 9:07 AM

I’ll take some. I’m sick of popcorn.

Lost in Jersey on June 6, 2012 at 9:09 AM

Voter turning out to vote was the founders intentions..
And it happened last night…

Spin away…

Electrongod on June 6, 2012 at 8:57 AM

Eh actually the founders thought there should be lots of restrictions on the franchise. Perhaps what we’re seeing is a return to those original values, when only the privileged property owner could participate in Democracy. We’ve returned to pre-Jacksonian democracy.

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 9:09 AM

Walker spent 88% of the money in the campaign and won 53% of the vote. This is exactly the democracy the Founders envisioned apparently. If you’re not alligned with billionaires is there even a point of running for office anymore?

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 8:50 AM

So then I guess billionaires were the only people who voted last night. Or was that money spent on getting the message out?

Are you getting dizzy from trying to spin this?

VietVet_Dave on June 6, 2012 at 9:10 AM

So what’s going on with comments, now? I get hung up, I get blanked out, and now it’s duplicate comment warnings with no such thing.

These weird filterings that have no such thing to do with profanity are really getting irritating.

MNHawk on June 6, 2012 at 9:11 AM

Unions dropped millions into Wisconsin in an effort to punish politicians who had the temerity to impose some fiscal discipline

Remember 2006, when Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats falsely claimed to be the party of “fiscal discipline” and “no more deficit spending”?

Here is what Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats promised in 2006 in order to win the 2006 elections and control of Congress:

Over the past decade, the Republican controlled Congress took our nation in the wrong direction. Too many Americans are paying a heavy price for those wrong choices: record costs for energy, health care and education; jobs shipped overseas; and budgets that heap record debt on our children. For millions, the middle-class dream has been replaced by a middle-class squeeze…

Democrats are proposing a New Direction for America…

With integrity, civility and fiscal discipline, our New Direction for America will use commonsense principles to address the aspirations and fulfill the hopes and dreams of all Americans. That is our promise to the American people….

Our federal budget should be a statement of our national values. One of those values is responsibility. Democrats are committed to ending years of irresponsible budget policies that have produced historic deficits. Instead of piling trillions of dollars of debt onto our children and grandchildren, we will restore “Pay As You Go” budget discipline.

Budget discipline has been abandoned by the Bush Administration and its Republican congressional majorities. Congress under Republican control has turned a projected $5.6 trillion 10-year surplus at the end of the Clinton years into a nearly $3 trillion deficit– including the four worst deficits in the history of America. The nation’s debt ceiling has been raised four times in just five years to more than $8.9 trillion. Nearly half of our nation’s record debt is owned by foreign countries including China and Japan. Without a return to fiscal discipline, the foreign countries that make our computers, our clothing and our toys will soon be making our foreign policy. Deficit spending is not just a fiscal problem – it’s a national security issue as well.

Our New Direction is committed to “Pay As You Go” budgeting – no more deficit spending.

And here is what Nancy Pelosi promised on January 4, 2007 when she became Speaker of the House:

After years of historic deficits, this 110th Congress will commit itself to a higher standard: pay-as-you-go, no new deficit spending. Our new America will provide unlimited opportunity for future generations, not burden them with mountains of debt.

- New Speaker Nancy Pelosi, 01/04/2007

Nancy Pelosi was Speaker of the House from January 4, 2007 to January 3, 2011.
How much new debt was created during Pelosi’s 4 years as Speaker? Over $5.3 TRILLION!

And how much new debt that has been created since the Democrats took majority control on January 4, 2007? Over $7 TRILLION!

ITguy on June 6, 2012 at 9:11 AM

Can the Senate convene a special session, or is the Governor required to call one for it to happen?

What can the Senate do if the House doesn’t reconvene, which again brings this back to whether the legislature can reconvene if the Governor doesn’t request it?

Dusty on June 6, 2012 at 8:58 AM

Only the Gov can call a special session.

Their temporary Senate majority is absolutely meaningless.

WisRich on June 6, 2012 at 9:03 AM

The legislature itself is able to convene a special session, but it basically requires a majority of members of each body. The Assembly is still overwhelmingly Republican and won’t sign on for a special session.

pablo5108 on June 6, 2012 at 9:11 AM

If you’re not alligned with billionaires is there even a point of running for office anymore?

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 8:50 AM

Ask the billionaire gigolo idiot you Democrats ran for President in 2004.

Del Dolemonte on June 6, 2012 at 9:12 AM

PHUP’s Person of the (First Half of the) Year

http://predicthistunpredictpast.blogspot.com/2012/06/phups-person-of-first-half-of-year.html

M2RB: Sting

Resist We Much on June 6, 2012 at 9:12 AM

Why not just return to the property requirements on the right to vote?

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 9:05 AM

Nah. Let’s just push for a pulse and proof of citizenship shall we?? Like with Eric Holder in Florida?

WryTrvllr on June 6, 2012 at 9:13 AM

Uncomfortable fact: Obama up by +12 in PA – Romney’s “goose is cooked” as the AK Snowbilly would say.

inthemiddle on June 6, 2012 at 8:51 AM

This is a thread about Pennsylvania? Do tell!

I see Axelturd and Halliburton part-owner George Soros have their Talking Points out early this morning to you drones. Money well spent!

Del Dolemonte on June 6, 2012 at 9:13 AM

I hope Michelle wears the most expensive outfit possible (courtesy of taxpayers) as a big middle finger!

inthemiddle on June 6, 2012 at 9:02 AM

Get the little darlings credit for one thing. It’s only hours before they’re back on their feet, plugging away towards their next disappointment in crappy little life.

MNHawk on June 6, 2012 at 9:14 AM

Can the Senate convene a special session, or is the Governor required to call one for it to happen?

What can the Senate do if the House doesn’t reconvene, which again brings this back to whether the legislature can reconvene if the Governor doesn’t request it?

Dusty on June 6, 2012 at 8:58 AM

Only the Gov can call a special session.

Their temporary Senate majority is absolutely meaningless.

WisRich on June 6, 2012 at 9:03 AM

The majority leadership of both houses of the Legislature could have convened a special session had, prior to leaving for the year, they explicitly gave themselves the authorization to. In 2010, they did so to try to pass through a heap of public union contracts (giveaways, really) in a lame-duck session, something that fell apart when the then-Senate Democrat/majority leader voted against the first of them and promptly got tossed out of leadership a few days before he walked out of the Senate for the last time.

If memory serves, the Legislature did not do so this time around.

Steve Eggleston on June 6, 2012 at 9:15 AM

The 7-1 number also doesn’t include money spent by out of state independent groups. A figure that heavily favors Walker. There’s no way you can spin out of this, the right is essentially arguing that Democracy is for sale to the highest bidder. Clearly what the founders intended.

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 8:53 AM

Such as how Obama won the presidency?

You really are unable to argue positions, facts, or logic, so have to spin your stupid conspiracy theories ad nauseam. Let’s not forget, even assuming that the dems were wildly outspent when counting all of the outside groups, including unions (not true, but for the sake of argument), the reason that the WI dems did not have more is that they were abandoned by the dem party nationally. And why was that? B/c they knew Barrett was going to lose. If they thought Barrett could win, they would have poured money in. Obama would have made appearances.

So, the “you spent significantly more” spin is just that, spin. It’s a) not really true and b) so what if it was? the side with more enthusiasm and that looks like the winner traditionally is able to muster more funds toward its campaign.

Note also that the entire reason for Walker’s recall was the union issue – yet nobody really ran on that issue during the recall campaign. It was abandoned? Why, b/c it was a loser issue. So, any argument that Walker did not win on the merits is completely idiotic.

Nice try and spinning your losses though.

Monkeytoe on June 6, 2012 at 9:16 AM

inthemiddle on June 6, 2012 at 9:02 AM

Petty is as petty does.

Fallon on June 6, 2012 at 9:16 AM

“Democracy Died Tonight” – the BEST youtube video EVAH! CNN just replayed that interview and I spit coffee on my computer. Dont you just LOVE it when a lib like that gets his wittle feewings huwrt?

NavyDavy on June 6, 2012 at 9:16 AM

There’s no way you can spin out of this, the right is essentially arguing that Democracy is for sale to the highest bidder. Clearly what the founders intended.

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 8:53 AM

The Left bought the Presidency via election fraud in 1960, and a Leftist named George Soros unsuccessfully tried to buy the Presidency in 2004. You really need to get out more.

F-

Del Dolemonte on June 6, 2012 at 9:17 AM

I hope Michelle wears the most expensive outfit possible (courtesy of taxpayers) as a big middle finger!

inthemiddle on June 6, 2012 at 9:02 AM

At least you aren’t pretending to be independent and have any non-ideologue thoughts anymore. Nice to see at least some honesty out of you. You should, however, change your lying moniker to “faroutleftist” in order to be more accurate.

How did that whole lying about being a “moderate” work out for you by the way?

Monkeytoe on June 6, 2012 at 9:17 AM

Wethal on June 6, 2012 at 9:09 AM

You do realize that all the wishful thinking you are counting on to turn PA blue – the Catholic vote, the “war on coal” protests votes – are the sames ones you had that failed in 2008.

Let’s face it…if Obama can openly call PA voters “bitter clingers” and they voted for him in droves, they will always vote for him.

inthemiddle on June 6, 2012 at 9:18 AM

Uncomfortable fact: WI is still nationally blue with Obama +7 over Romney in latest poll.

inthemiddle on June 6, 2012 at 8:48 AM

Uncomfortable fact: Obama up by +12 in PA – Romney’s “goose is cooked” as the AK Snowbilly would say.

inthemiddle on June 6, 2012 at 8:51 AM

Inconvenient truth: if Obama’s and Romney’s campaigns continue on their current trajectories, Obama’s goose is charred, blackened, and burnt to a crisp.

Anybody up for crispy goose with inthemiddle sauce?

ElectricPhase on June 6, 2012 at 9:19 AM

If you’re not alligned with billionaires is there even a point of running for office anymore?

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 8:50 AM

As I told your fellow crybaby last night:

Yeah, I’m sure that you’re heartbroken that Fauxcahontas is having so many fundraisers out in Hollyweird and San Francisco and here in Manhattan. And, of course, despite your protestations, widdle feetsies stomping, and “J’accuses,” about “shadowy billionaires and secret money,” you’ve never complained about the $550 million that George Soros has given to Democrats and Progressive organisations.

“An analysis by the Center for Responsive Politics’s Opensecrets.org compared contributions by the Koch brothers and George Soros. This review from Sept. 21, 2010 showed Soros lavished more than $34 million on 527s, candidates, and committees. This compared with a mere $4 million from the Koch brothers. The Kochs do surpass Soros in funding to candidates, parties, and committees, but the difference is a little more than $800,000. Opensecrets.org is part of the Soros-funded Center for Responsive Politics. They received $500,000 in grants from the Open Society Foundation since 2000.

All this funding is a key part of the Soros empire with more than $8 billion donated through his Open Society Foundations – and it’s about to help impact another election.”

http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2010/09/opensecrets-battle—koch-brothers.html

George Soros: Godfather of the Left

In the words of your heroic Man-Child, “Shake it off. Stop complaining, stop grumbling, stop crying.”

PS: Big Labour spent $21 million alone and much of it came from OUT-OF-STATE….far exceeding that spent by your favourite bogeymen, the Koch Brothers.

Resist We Much on June 6, 2012 at 9:20 AM

Why not just return to the property requirements on the right to vote?

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 9:05 AM

The current arrangement of letting folks like me donate as much $$$ as I see fit works out just fine, thanks. You should probably invest in a very large jar and just go ahead and look through the couch cushions for spare change if you want a shot at beating those noble patriots, the Koch brothers. :-)

Punchenko on June 6, 2012 at 9:20 AM

Monkeytoe on June 6, 2012 at 9:17 AM

Certainly not a leftist, but come from a proud heritage of union members in my family who have benefited greatly from them. Thus, my passion.

inthemiddle on June 6, 2012 at 9:20 AM

Uncomfortable fact: WI is still nationally blue with Obama +7 over Romney in latest poll.

Uncomfortable right back atcha: The same polls said the recall was so close there would probably be a recount.

Go, ahead, believe them; heck, the unions did. Suckers.

Dirty Creature on June 6, 2012 at 9:20 AM

Richard Trumka walks into a bar. Says “Ouch! Man that hurt! Ow! Dang!”

Akzed on June 6, 2012 at 9:21 AM

Can’t wait to drink the conservative tears on January 20, 2013 when President Obama begins his second four years. I hope Michelle wears the most expensive outfit possible (courtesy of taxpayers) as a big middle finger!
inthemiddle on June 6, 2012 at 9:02 AM

Wonderful. The country’s dying and this ghoul’s cheering on the morticians.

Cleombrotus on June 6, 2012 at 9:21 AM

Eh actually the founders thought there should be lots of restrictions on the franchise. Perhaps what we’re seeing is a return to those original values, when only the privileged property owner could participate in Democracy. We’ve returned to pre-Jacksonian democracy.

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 9:09 AM

Really? Only people with property voted yesterday in WI?

I would actually have no problem with only allowing people who pay net income taxes vote (with exemptions for people on active military service), but the chances of that occuring are less than minimal.

To claim that only the monied vote is idiotic (par for the course). To complain about money in politics as if it only effects one side is likewise idiotic. Democrats always run even with Republicans. It just depends on the year and the district. The money flows to who is perceived as the most likely to win. For every conservative SuperPAC there is a liberal SuperPAC. If in s specific district/race the liberal PAC chooses not to invest, that is because it perceives that race as unwinnable. The same thing happens on the GOP side. It’s not like the amounts spent on the GOP candidate in Pelosi’s district ever match the amount she has.

Claims to the contrary are either dishonest (likely with you) or ignorant (also likely with you).

Monkeytoe on June 6, 2012 at 9:22 AM

Certainly not a leftist, but come from a proud heritage of union members in my family who have benefited greatly from them. Thus, my passion.

inthemiddle on June 6, 2012 at 9:20 AM

Your heritage just got pooped on by Wisconsin voters last night. :-)

Punchenko on June 6, 2012 at 9:22 AM

Monkeytoe on June 6, 2012 at 9:17 AM

Certainly not a leftist, but come from a proud heritage of union members in my family who have benefited greatly from them. Thus, my passion.

inthemiddle on June 6, 2012 at 9:20 AM

But were they public employee union members? They’re the only ones we have a problem with.

Del Dolemonte on June 6, 2012 at 9:23 AM

There’s no way you can spin out of this, the right is essentially arguing that Democracy is for sale to the highest bidder. Clearly what the founders intended.

[libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 8:53 AM]

We’re not arguing at all. We’re just pointing out that more people contributed more money for their side than the other, which is an indication that that side is the more popular and preferred side in the race.

And bidding is not an accurate characterization. We were investing in the future for a better return on our money. Seriously, there was ample opportunity for dems, progressives and unions to match the money our side put into the race, but those folks who sat it out realized the result was a forgone conclusion and decided not to flush more money down the toilet.

Suck it up, clownboy. and admit your side had a lousy arguments for taking the governorship.

Dusty on June 6, 2012 at 9:24 AM

Walker spent 88% of the money in the campaign and won 53% of the vote. This is exactly the democracy the Founders envisioned apparently. If you’re not alligned with billionaires is there even a point of running for office anymore?

libfreeordie on June 6, 2012 at 8:50 AM

Someone please remind this genius which candidate in the 2008 election went against his pledge to take only public financing and out spent his feeble minded opponent 4-1.

dirtseller on June 6, 2012 at 9:24 AM

Certainly not a leftist, but come from a proud heritage of union members in my family who have benefited greatly from them. Thus, my passion.

inthemiddle on June 6, 2012 at 9:20 AM

Ahh, so you continue with your lying. Does it ever occur to you that if you must lie to support you causes, then your cause must be wrong?

You have never posted anything but leftist cliche comments. You despise Romney who is hardly a conservative and love Obama who is not even remotely a moderate.

Again, you are simply dishonest from top to bottom. And not even entertainingly so or imaginatively so.

Monkeytoe on June 6, 2012 at 9:24 AM

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