Chris Matthews: Yeah, maybe blocking that Keystone XL Pipeline was a mistake

posted at 2:41 pm on June 5, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

Indubitably.

As much as President Obama likes to claim that approving of pipelines and issuing drilling permits won’t do anything to lower gas prices in the near future (which isn’t true, by the way — the confirmed prospect of an expanded oil capacity tomorrow can incentivize speculators to release oil into the market supply today), what they definitely will do is start creating productive, private-sector jobs right now. What we really need at the moment is economic growth, and President Obama’s policies are deliberately limiting our market share in the worldwide energy industry and giving countries like China a free pass to those opportunities.

The NYT just reported on the energy boom sweeping into the Ohio River Valley, and how oil and gas leases are causing a nice economic influx for local residents — private property, for the win! We could have many more situations like this, if not for the Obama administration throwing bones to their environmental base by playing politics with energy investments (and I mean legitimate private investments there, not “investments” like President Obama fallaciously uses the term). What a waste.

Here in Noble County, where vehicle repair and convenience stores are economic mainstays, Eclipse Resources, a Pennsylvania company, mailed $16 million in oil- and gas-leasing checks last month to 70 households whose property has been found to sit atop oil and gas reserves. Working with a lawyer in nearby Marietta, the residents were able to band together to negotiate an unusually lucrative deal with the company that paid $4,000 an acre and 19 percent royalties on oil and gas production, and included safeguards to protect water and land. (The standard has been $20 to $30 an acre, one-sixth royalty rates, and no protections for water and land.)

In a region where median household income is less than $33,000, the first big flush of oil- and gas-related income produced leasing checks of six and seven figures — amounts the recipients say are a bit disorienting. …

More is probably on the way, potentially much more. Some 6,000 feet beneath Noble County and much of east and southeast Ohio lies the Utica Shale, a thick layer of oil- and gas-bearing rock that has attracted billions of dollars in energy industry investment in leases and infrastructure. Representatives of the nation’s largest energy companies — Chesapeake Energy, Exxon Mobil and BP, to name a few — crowd the recorder’s office at the local courthouse here and in a dozen other counties, scouring property records to identify landowners willing to lease their oil and gas rights.


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Rook!

steebo77 on June 5, 2012 at 2:44 PM

Drill, baby, drill

OmahaConservative on June 5, 2012 at 2:45 PM

Ya think, Chrissy?

trigon on June 5, 2012 at 2:45 PM

Is the thrill gone?

50sGuy on June 5, 2012 at 2:45 PM

It must have killed tingles to admit that

cmsinaz on June 5, 2012 at 2:46 PM

Welcome to the party Tingle Pants. Anna Wintour will be disappointed you’re so late.

Flange on June 5, 2012 at 2:46 PM

Chrissy is shocked to be going against his lover.. SHOCKED!

upinak on June 5, 2012 at 2:46 PM

A mistake because it hurts Obama’s chances for 2nd term. It has nothing to do with the economy or how it would help America

Ditkaca on June 5, 2012 at 2:46 PM

Indubitably.

I always like that word.
You rarely get a chance to use it in a sentence.
You get one chance to say it right or you sound like a dope.

NeoKong on June 5, 2012 at 2:47 PM

Now the puddle of pee under Chrissy’s desk is from fear rather than excitement.

Bishop on June 5, 2012 at 2:48 PM

(which isn’t true, by the way — the confirmed prospect of an expanded oil capacity tomorrow can incentivize speculators to release oil into the market supply today),

Not exactly. Futures traders (not ‘speculators’ please) never touch the oil but if you give them a whiff their longer positions are clearly heading south they trigger a sell-off…

CorporatePiggy on June 5, 2012 at 2:48 PM

Chrissy’s hostage video in 3-2-1

faraway on June 5, 2012 at 2:49 PM

Did Chrissy mean it was a mistake politically or from a policy perspective?

steebo77 on June 5, 2012 at 2:51 PM

In PA, the same thing is happening. The EPA is doing all they can to slow it down or stop it. I don’t think even the most loyal democrats are willing to give up making a living for the sake of Obama’s green energy utopia. I was just at HuffPo, and they have an electoral map showing PA firmly going blue. I don’t think they should count on that.

Night Owl on June 5, 2012 at 2:51 PM

As usual, our lovely forgotten state of ND gets missed while PA and OH get all the glory. ;)

ND has been booming and essentially insulated from the recession thanks almost entirely to the boom in oil and gas production from the Bakken Shale, making us now the second largest producer of oil in the US behind only TX. We have a state budget surplus. We have 3% unemployment. We can’t find enough skilled construction workers to build all the needed houses and infrastructure, and are paying insane wages to the ones we can find. McDonald’s in Williston is paying $20/hr for someone to ask “would you like fries with that?” Our property values are climbing while the housing market across the rest of the country continues in it’s stagnation.

To that I say, “Thank you, Big Oil”.

gravityman on June 5, 2012 at 2:54 PM

Did Chrissy mean it was a mistake politically or from a policy perspective?

steebo77 on June 5, 2012 at 2:51 PM

Chrissy “Is That a Tingle Up My Leg, Or Am I Just Happy to See You?” Matthews obviously means political. He knows us dumb hillbillies, clinging to our guns and bibles, wants us some of that Texas Tea to pollute our lungs with. He’s worried Obumbler is writing off the hillbilly vote too quickly.

NotCoach on June 5, 2012 at 2:55 PM

I refuse to click on any MSLSD clip, but I guess Erika is fearless.

The Progressives are just obstructionists to Progress, everything they do is irony. Maybe it’s catching up to them.

kirkill on June 5, 2012 at 2:56 PM

Chris will never wake up. His only functional brain cell has the Obama logo stamped on it.

In PA, the same thing is happening. The EPA is doing all they can to slow it down or stop it. I don’t think even the most loyal democrats are willing to give up making a living for the sake of Obama’s green energy utopia. I was just at HuffPo, and they have an electoral map showing PA firmly going blue. I don’t think they should count on that.

Night Owl on June 5, 2012 at 2:51 PM

They shouldn’t. Zero may get the cities, but overall I see him losing PA and Ohio.

dogsoldier on June 5, 2012 at 2:56 PM

Colorado is full of oil shale, but far too many green martians from California have moved here and declared the whole state a wilderness area. Land of no uses.

kirkill on June 5, 2012 at 2:58 PM

Retire, Hissy. You get more embarrassing with each passing year.

Go write a hagiography of zer0 to serve as a matching bookend for your biased account on JFK.

MisterElephant on June 5, 2012 at 3:00 PM

Chris Matthews: Yeah, maybe blocking that Keystone XL Pipeline was a mistake

…”and looking back at my previous broadcasts…I acknowledge that I am dumber than a damndead dog!”

KOOLAID2 on June 5, 2012 at 3:03 PM

Chrissy thinks it was a mistake only because it us hurting his Object of Adoration.

He does not think it was a mistake from the policy perspective assumed by libtards: more carbon == bad.

ya2daup on June 5, 2012 at 3:04 PM

ND has been booming and essentially insulated from the recession thanks almost entirely to the boom in oil and gas production from the Bakken Shale, making us now the second largest producer of oil in the US behind only TX. We have a state budget surplus. We have 3% unemployment. We can’t find enough skilled construction workers to build all the needed houses and infrastructure, and are paying insane wages to the ones we can find. McDonald’s in Williston is paying $20/hr for someone to ask “would you like fries with that?”

gravityman on June 5, 2012 at 2:54 PM

Does Obama know about this? This sounds like something he would heartily disapprove of. An economy booming somewhere from dirty fossil fuels? And without government involvement? I mean, how is this supposed to help his election campaign? Gotta put a stop to this. Oh and $20/hr for working at McDonald’s? I mean, at some point you’ve made enough money. /s

smellthecoffee on June 5, 2012 at 3:05 PM

Welcome to the party Tingle Pants. Anna Wintour will be disappointed you’re so late.

Flange

THIS is why I love Hot Air.

8thAirForce on June 5, 2012 at 3:05 PM

Chrissy should stick to game shows and get out of the propaganda game.

jukin3 on June 5, 2012 at 3:05 PM

No sob stories of flames shooting out of faucets this week?

PattyJ on June 5, 2012 at 3:06 PM

They shouldn’t. Zero may get the cities, but overall I see him losing PA and Ohio.

dogsoldier on June 5, 2012 at 2:56 PM

It is impossible to win PA until an Aryan Nation militant is posted in every voting location in Philly. Hey, wouldn’t it be lovely for them and the Panthers to beat each other to death while we vote?

Archivarix on June 5, 2012 at 3:08 PM

A “mistake” because it hurt him politically, no doubt… nothing is about what actually helps America.

FruitedPlain on June 5, 2012 at 3:09 PM

I was just at HuffPo, and they have an electoral map showing PA firmly going blue. I don’t think they should count on that.

Night Owl on June 5, 2012 at 2:51 PM

Naah, let them “count it” (in the immortal words of crr6).

I want to see their heads explode on election day when the state turns deep red, right under their noses.

UltimateBob on June 5, 2012 at 3:15 PM

Does Obama know about this? This sounds like something he would heartily disapprove of. An economy booming somewhere from dirty fossil fuels? And without government involvement? I mean, how is this supposed to help his election campaign? Gotta put a stop to this. Oh and $20/hr for working at McDonald’s? I mean, at some point you’ve made enough money. /s

smellthecoffee on June 5, 2012 at 3:05 PM

Lucky for us, Obama is like most Americans who forget that North Dakota even exists (we’d be the 58th state, right?). We have a lot of hunting here… flyover rubes who cling to our guns and all.

gravityman on June 5, 2012 at 3:16 PM

I’ll take everyones word for it but I’m not clicking that video. I can’t stand his voice or that of many other liberals.

Yakko77 on June 5, 2012 at 3:17 PM

What does this have to do with the republican war on women?

Deafdog on June 5, 2012 at 3:19 PM

That’s not spittle in the corner of his mouth…

Seven Percent Solution on June 5, 2012 at 3:20 PM

Matthews frequently has naughty, tingly dreams about obama’s pipeline.

Pork-Chop on June 5, 2012 at 3:22 PM

That’s not spittle in the corner of his mouth…

Seven Percent Solution on June 5, 2012 at 3:20 PM

Ewwwwww….

UltimateBob on June 5, 2012 at 3:24 PM

we just know the benefit was kissed goodbye to

Did I hear that correctly? The Smartest JournoList In The World® ending a sentence with a preposition?

Good thing this wasn’t that hick from Alaska.

pain train on June 5, 2012 at 3:24 PM

gravityman on June 5, 2012 at 2:54 PM

I wasn’t meaning to slight your state, it’s just that it’s new here for any kind of boom since the old steel days.

Night Owl on June 5, 2012 at 3:25 PM

New line of TV commercials:

“Got Oil?”

BobMbx on June 5, 2012 at 3:30 PM

This is so disappointing for the powdered wig set.

We in flyover country actually want to control our own sources of income.

Instead of having to beg from them, food stamps, unemployment checks and welfare checks, we’d actually rather take care of ourselves.

Petty ingrates we be.

NoDonkey on June 5, 2012 at 3:30 PM

I could care less what Chris says or thinks. He is nothing but a liar and con man – full of deception.

It will be a better world when Obama is out of office and Chris is hired to carry his bags to all of the forthcoming speaking engagements & book tours.

sdbatboy on June 5, 2012 at 3:32 PM

Yakko77 on June 5, 2012 at 3:17 PM

Yep. Libtards of all “walks of life” are unbearable.

Pork-Chop on June 5, 2012 at 3:22 PM

Uh-huh and LOL.

MisterElephant on June 5, 2012 at 3:35 PM

“…mailed $16 million in oil- and gas-leasing checks last month to 70 households whose property has been found to sit atop oil and gas reserves…”

heh, those bleeping 1% ers!

socalcon on June 5, 2012 at 3:36 PM

It is impossible to win PA until an Aryan Nation militant is posted in every voting location in Philly. Hey, wouldn’t it be lovely for them and the Panthers to beat each other to death while we vote?

Archivarix on June 5, 2012 at 3:08 PM

That would be nice! Don’t you think there is a chance that we are smarter about these things than we were four years ago? Are the Republicans in that part of the state going to allow that to happen again?

Night Owl on June 5, 2012 at 3:37 PM

I wasn’t meaning to slight your state, it’s just that it’s new here for any kind of boom since the old steel days.

Night Owl on June 5, 2012 at 3:25 PM

Not you, Night Owl. :)

I was refering to the plethora of articles about the advantages of the shale oil booms, which all seem to focus on those in PA and OH but rarely ever mention the huge one here in ND.

gravityman on June 5, 2012 at 3:39 PM

What “environmental cost”? There are already dozens of pipelines crossing that area. This pipeline would actually result in two of those older, smaller ones being removed that carry oil over a portion of the route. The oil is currently being transported on surface rail which is a much higher risk of environmental contamination than from a pipeline. Trains derail more often than pipelines break. That area is very seismically stable, unlike Alaska or even California there is no risk of earthquake damage in the Nebraska portion of the link. It is a greater environmental risk NOT to build it.

But doing so would deprive Warren Buffett of his Burlington Northern Railroad revenue and Buffett is an Obama supporter. THAT is why the pipeline isn’t being approved.

crosspatch on June 5, 2012 at 3:39 PM

If you’re trying to push my buttons and make me comment on this issue, Erika, you’re sadly mistaken.

Oh…wait….

timberline on June 5, 2012 at 3:42 PM

Second guess the smartest President evah?

Chrissy is gonna have to send himself to the woodshed now.

Of course, he’ll probably love it.

ICanSeeNovFromMyHouse on June 5, 2012 at 3:43 PM

Hey Jazz- this could be a benefit to New York too! All the way from Binghampton to Chautauqau, this same stretch of oil and gas could be vitalizing the southern tier for the first time in two generations, and populations would be growing, richer, healthier, happier and richer. Did I mention richer?

Oh wait! Your fine friends in Albany outlawed this wealth. Pennsylvania land has exploded in value, and you can see what’s happening to eastern Ohio incomes, but not for New Yorkers! Oh no, no dirty oil money for them. Land values rise by two thirds just driving a half hour south from Horseheads or Corning, but the central planners in Soviet Albany have declared this wealth off-limits to New Yorkers. Genteel poverty is just fine for them.

MTF on June 5, 2012 at 3:47 PM

Ya think some of those six-figure checks might induce some Ohio landowners to say “Frack me” and frack Obama? And that’s the blue part of Ohio…

Steve Z on June 5, 2012 at 3:50 PM

…like President Obama fallaciously uses the term

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Look at that! “Øbama” and “fallacious” juxtaposed directly adjacent in a blog post without a “to be fair” anywhere near the phrase or in the article, at all.
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Good going, Erika Johnsen, you betcha! (Or in some places, “Yah, yew bett!)

ExpressoBold on June 5, 2012 at 3:55 PM

crosspatch on June 5, 2012 at 3:39 PM

I don’t disagree with your post, but just want to add one note in terms of railroads to ship the oil. We are getting most of our oil in ND currently shipped by rail, but would rather ship most of it by pipeline (the Keystone would be huge for us in ND). The pipelines here now are working at full capacity, so most of what is being produced now has to be shipped by rail. There are some other issues with contracts to get access to the pipeline junction at Fargo, but that’s a side matter.

Anyways, what I wanted to point out is that the oil companies still like to have about 25% of the oil shipped by rail even with the pipelines. Having a portion shipped by rail allows more flexibility to adjust to distribution on a more as-needed basis. Pipelines ship a lot of oil cheaply and cleanly, but it lacks flexibility on the distribution end.

gravityman on June 5, 2012 at 3:55 PM

You know, three years ago about three miles from my house, the CAPECO oil storage depot blew up. I mean BLEW UP. There were hundreds of millions of gallons of jet fuel, kerosene, diesel, and just about a third of the state’s supply of gasoline in there, and it all burned up in four days. The sky was filled with smoke, and all the pundits were bloviating about how the whole island would never recover, the area was ruined, the world was coming to an end.

Today I drove by there and you’d never know what happened. Even the forest around it is coming back.

Here’s a reference, to refresh your memory: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Cata%C3%B1o_oil_refinery_fire.

So if CAPECO caused pretty much nothing in the end, what exactly is a pipeline going to damage?

JoseQuinones on June 5, 2012 at 3:56 PM

Buy land.

nukemhill on June 5, 2012 at 3:56 PM

Hey Jazz- this could be …

MTF on June 5, 2012 at 3:47 PM

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Why are you addressing Jazz? Erika wrote this.

ExpressoBold on June 5, 2012 at 3:58 PM

I hope whoever it is that has to watch MSNBC to post these articles gets paid a lot. Sounds like cruel and unusual punishment…talk about possible serious head injuries that may not show up for years…

DVPTexFla on June 5, 2012 at 4:01 PM

Crude prices go up, Obama claims the “speculators” did it.

Prices go down, he claims credit for himself.

He would love to also claim credit…wait he does do so, on the private land gas/oil explorations, which he opposes.

He is a charlatan like no other.

Schadenfreude on June 5, 2012 at 4:07 PM

Obama made no mistake, he made a miscalculation. He thought sucking up to the enviro-weenies would net him more votes than pretending to care about jobs, which the media can do for him.

drunyan8315 on June 5, 2012 at 4:10 PM

gravityman on June 5, 2012 at 3:16 PM

I’m loving seeing North Dakota coming on strong. Energy will do for it what it did for Alaska. It also gives the lie to the CW that it’s impossible to succeed in this economy. I believe the whole country could see a resurgence like this, once Obama’s foot is removed from the air-hose of this economy.

smellthecoffee on June 5, 2012 at 4:10 PM

I was refering to the plethora of articles about the advantages of the shale oil booms, which all seem to focus on those in PA and OH but rarely ever mention the huge one here in ND.

gravityman on June 5, 2012 at 3:39 PM

Thanks, all! Just wanted to point out, gravityman — North Dakota is much too awesome to ignore! :-)

Erika Johnsen on June 5, 2012 at 4:17 PM

Duh.

Resist We Much on June 5, 2012 at 4:22 PM

What “environmental cost”? There are already dozens of pipelines crossing that area.

Yep. I always show Progs this map when they start with the crap about this being a pristine area, blah, blah, blah. The area outlined in black is the Ogallala Aquifer.

Talk about crickets…

Resist We Much on June 5, 2012 at 4:26 PM

A mistake because it hurts Obama’s chances for 2nd term. It has nothing to do with the economy or how it would help America

Ditkaca on June 5, 2012 at 2:46 PM

Helping America or Americans would be a new way of thinking for liberal leaders. Lots of rank and file Democrats believe (wrongly) that liberal policies help people. But the leaders know it’s all about lining their own pockets.

hawksruleva on June 5, 2012 at 4:26 PM

Thanks, all! Just wanted to point out, gravityman — North Dakota is much too awesome to ignore! :-)

Erika Johnsen on June 5, 2012 at 4:17 PM

I will consider myself satiated for now, and you can remain on the ‘Nice List’, Erika. :)

gravityman on June 5, 2012 at 4:27 PM

the first big flush of oil- and gas-related income produced leasing checks of six and seven figures — amounts the recipients say are a bit disorienting. …

Crimeny . . . wish somebody would disorient me with a seven-figure check!

AZCoyote on June 5, 2012 at 4:29 PM

Yep. I always show Progs this map when they start with the crap about this being a pristine area, blah, blah, blah. The area outlined in black is the Ogallala Aquifer.

Talk about crickets…

Resist We Much on June 5, 2012 at 4:26 PM

There’s not an acre in America that the proggies can’t find a reason to label ‘environmentally sensitive’, ‘delicate’, or ‘pristine’. After what they did to that godforsaken useless frozen swamp called ANWR, anything is possible.

slickwillie2001 on June 5, 2012 at 4:42 PM

The political lie in regards to Canadian crude is this. A pipeline is a fixed asset. It will be used and is much cheaper than tankers from the middle east. You can’t park a pipeline in a harbor. While crude is a world product transportation is not. If product is cheaper at the end of a pipeline and it will be vs. a tanker the tanker will have to go elsewhere to sell its product or dump the price to compete with Canada.

Canadian tar sands are mined not drilled. Turning off or slowing a pump down on an oil well can’t happen with mining. You would have to shut down billions of dollars of investments. Tell that to the share holders.

Less of our money will be used to fund middle east terrorists.

BullShooterAsInElk on June 5, 2012 at 4:55 PM

Lovin’ it! Obama’s ‘to be droned’ lists gets longer: Dowd, Matthews, Juan Williams, Bill Clinton, Cory Booker.

Bob in VA on June 5, 2012 at 5:15 PM

Colorado is full of oil shale, but far too many green martians from California have moved here and declared the whole state a wilderness area. Land of no uses.

kirkill on June 5, 2012 at 2:58 PM

That’s what drives me crazy about Californians, their insanity ruins a place, they are forced depart to other places, and they bring that insanity with them to the new place. It never occurs to them that their ideas are what is ruining all these places.

squint on June 5, 2012 at 5:16 PM

The ignorant seem to be posting again.

1st Keystone XL impacts one source of imports, Venezuela, since it is a similar type of crude, NOT crude from Middle East, North Sea or West Africa. Type of crude folks and Type of refinery to process it.

2nd the Green River formation is NOT where you can drill and use hydraulic fracturing. It has to be retorted first since kerogen is a POLYMER and after retorting becomes a high naphtha containing SYNTHETIC CRUDE OIL.

But hey go ahead and listen to people who don’t know squat about crude oil, logistics and refining if you like.

Kermit on June 5, 2012 at 5:27 PM

BullShooterAsInElk on June 5, 2012 at 4:55 PM

40% is actually drilled and produced via wells after steam injection into the formation.

Kermit on June 5, 2012 at 5:28 PM

But doing so would deprive Warren Buffett of his Burlington Northern Railroad revenue and Buffett is an Obama supporter. THAT is why the pipeline isn’t being approved.

crosspatch on June 5, 2012 at 3:39 PM

This.

bofh on June 5, 2012 at 5:50 PM

Why are you addressing Jazz? Erika wrote this.

ExpressoBold on June 5, 2012 at 3:58 PM

Sorry, I should have explained myself.

Jazz lives in Binghampton and generally supports intrusive, expensive dictatorial government. He’s the same guy, after all, who thinks it the rightful place of the Feds to outlaw internships, of all idiotic stances to take. He’s written twice right here at this site advocating an extension of sales taxes to the internet. He likes all sorts of big government activities, like so many self-destructive residents of the ever-declining towns and counties of his part of the world.

Untold in this post is that the southern tier of New York state has the same oil and gas resources as eastern Ohio and northern Pennsylvania. But Albany has said “no; not allowed” to fracking, a technology making many residents of northern Pennsylvania and eastern Ohio wealthier. The big government Jazz loves so much has decided that, in its infinite wisdom, that the poverty stricken residents of the southern tier can’t be allowed by their betters to benefit.

Perhaps this is an issue where Jazz might want to stand with the people, instead of with the corruptocrats of Albany and the idiot enviros living all over Tompkins County. Perhaps Jazz might want to tell “the rest of this story”.

So, in answer to your question, I was clumsily egging him on.

MTF on June 5, 2012 at 5:54 PM

Erika, Welcome to the blog (formally)! One suggestion, give us a transcript of the key parts of video’s like Ed does. Not everyone is in a place they can watch and hear the video.
Thanks!

LifeTrek on June 5, 2012 at 5:54 PM

Koolaid2, please quit insulting dead dogs.

Howze that tingle workin’ for you now Matthews?

Quartermaster on June 5, 2012 at 6:08 PM

That’s what drives me crazy about Californians, their insanity ruins a place, they are forced depart to other places, and they bring that insanity with them to the new place. It never occurs to them that their ideas are what is ruining all these places.

squint on June 5, 2012 at 5:16 PM

Not surprising. Marxism has been tried again and again in dozens of countries, and always fails. Marxists always believe that it just hasn’t been done exactly the right way yet, and if you just give them another chance, they will make it work and we will have paradise on Earth.

That’s what little Bammie meant when he said “this time you’ve got me.”

slickwillie2001 on June 5, 2012 at 6:18 PM

Not surprising. Marxism has been tried again and again in dozens of countries, and always fails. Marxists always believe that it just hasn’t been done exactly the right way yet, and if you just give them another chance, they will make it work and we will have paradise on Earth.

That’s what little Bammie meant when he said “this time you’ve got me.”

slickwillie2001 on June 5, 2012 at 6:18 PM

How many mulligans does it take to get it through these people’s thick skulls that this Marxist crap JUST…DOESN’T…WORK?
Never has, never will.

squint on June 5, 2012 at 6:36 PM

bofh on June 5, 2012 at 5:50 PM

Another moronic thought. It would take 30,000 additional tank cars with shipping and receiving terminals because NO refinery has enough real estate to handle that capacity by rail.

FYI, the largest tank car manufacturing plant has recently doubled its capacity to put out 35 or so new tank cars per day.

Kermit on June 5, 2012 at 6:41 PM

So electing an incompetent, inexperienced tyro megalomaniac with Utopian delusions to the most difficult job on earth was a boo-boo?

Knock me over with an Archaeopteryx feather!

profitsbeard on June 5, 2012 at 6:43 PM

Yep. I always show Progs this map when they start with the crap about this being a pristine area, blah, blah, blah. The area outlined in black is the Ogallala Aquifer.

Talk about crickets…

Resist We Much on June 5, 2012 at 4:26 PM

There’s not an acre in America that the proggies can’t find a reason to label ‘environmentally sensitive’, ‘delicate’, or ‘pristine’. After what they did to that godforsaken useless frozen swamp called ANWR, anything is possible.

slickwillie2001 on June 5, 2012 at 4:42 PM

And yet the Ogallala aquifer is pretty damn important… if you like to eat.

There is a legitimate environmental concern (benzene leaching, etc). Of course, as the map notes – there are gas and oil lines already, even over the significant areas of the aquifer (most depth is in Nebraska), and there’s little that should stop construction of a modern pipeline with safety and spill precautions taken into effect.

If it were going to run through a particularly sensitive area, it could be rerouted locally, or additional protective measures taken… which apparently were going to be taken with Keystone anyway.

CPL 310 on June 5, 2012 at 7:48 PM

NOT a “mistake“: it is an ASSAULT on the USA!!!

landlines on June 5, 2012 at 9:10 PM

It’s much worse the lost jobs. We betrayed our closet ally. We screwed Canada. Because of this, Canada is forced to reevaluate it’s whole economic position so that it is independent of US infrastructure.

It is a loss of honor. It is a loss of face. And it will be a loss in influence and revenue down the line.

Obama is systematically f’ing over our allies by taking them for granted.

He’s doing it with the Israelis as well with the same result. They’re now being forced to look at alliances and relationships beyond the US because the US has shown itself to be an unreliable ally due to Obama. That mean they’re courting the Chinese for example. The Chinese like the Israelis… they respect them.

A huge reason we have such power in the world is because of our network of alliances. We built them up over generations and paid for them in blood. And Obama is treating them like dog crap… rendering them worthless and our allies disgusted.

I suspect Obama doesn’t really know what he’s doing. He’s profoundly clueless. The alternative would have him intentionally destroying the US international status. The fool is barely qualified to be a congressmen and never should have been a senator much less a president.

Karmashock on June 6, 2012 at 10:26 AM

Let no one forget that lying Obama had promised many times that there would be C-span coverage of the health care bill construction as part of his much unfulfilled “transparency” and no more “business as usual” promises – big lies that win elections. Obama lies when his lips move.

Chessplayer on June 6, 2012 at 10:42 AM