Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on June 4, 2012 by Allahpundit

What do New Yorkers say? “Fuhgetaboutit.”…

An exclusive NY1-Marist College poll finds most New Yorkers are opposed to the mayor’s plan, as 53 percent say it is a a bad idea and only 42 percent say it is a good one.

Most New Yorkers, 52 percent, say they are not convinced it will work. Only 45 percent say they think a ban on large sodas and other sugary drinks will help people lose weight.

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Bold actions to protect the public’s health always stir controversy at first. Smoke-free bars and restaurants, trans fat restriction and calorie posting in restaurants were all met with skepticism, but are now widely popular in New York City. They are also saving many lives each year, and life expectancy in New York City is outpacing that of the United States…

[S]tudies show that people given larger portions simply consume more without noticing it or reducing calorie consumption at subsequent meals. And portion sizes of sugary drinks have ballooned drastically over the last 50 years, from 12 ounces to 32 ounces for a large beverage at a typical fast-food restaurant, not as a result of consumer demand but because of corporate decisions…

Under our proposal, people could still choose to drink as much soda as they want. If 16 ounces (promoted as enough for three people in the 1950s!) is not enough, people could purchase two portions. Is that too much an inconvenience to reverse a national health catastrophe?

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Under the spirit of the proposed Bloomberg ban, a super-strength beer would be considered less of public nuisance than the sports drink or the soda. At present, there is no suggestion that the ban will apply at all to alcoholic beverages.

While the language of the ban has yet to be formalized, other things that are not alcoholic but are also expected to be passed over include the 870-calorie, 22-ounce chocolate McCafe milkshakes at McDonald’s and the 670-calorie, 24-ounce Venti Double Chocolaty Chip Frappuccino Blended Crème at Starbucks.

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[P]ublic health advocates contend that letting everyone make their own choices has led the country to $192 billion per year in medical bills for obesity-related care. That’s a tab everyone ends up paying part of via Medicare, Medicaid and soaring rates for private health insurance.

There is nobody on the face of the planet who needs a soda, let alone a 32-ounce soda,” said Robert Lustig, a pediatric obesity researcher at the University of California at San Francisco who is a vocal proponent of restrictions on sugary drinks…

“If New York City’s initiative succeeds, it really opens up a new front,” said Michael Jacobson, executive director at the Center for Science in the Public Interest, an advocacy group. “I’m sure it will encourage other cities and states to seek similar measures to reduce portion sizes.”

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When I was a kid, Coca-Cola came in 6-ounce glass bottles, and that seemed like plenty. It wasn’t all that long ago that a 12-ounce soda was considered perfectly sufficient—even large. But walk into any pizzeria or deli these days and you’ll have a very hard time even finding 12-ounce cans of anything. 20-ounce plastic bottles are now considered the standard single-serving size. The same thing has happened with hot drinks. Remember the Starbucks 8-ounce “short” cup of coffee? That’s not on the menu anymore. If you walk in and ask for a small, you get a 12-ounce “tall.” Small is tall.

The reason for all this supersizing is basic economics. When you go to a McDonalds or Wendy’s, the cost of serving you is pretty much fixed because what they have to spend on the food is almost negligible compared to what they pay for their workers and floor space. However, if they can get you to pay, say, 25 cents more for 5 cents worth of soda, the franchise owner earns a tidy profit and you walk out the door thinking you’ve gotten an absolutely fantastic deal by paying only a few extra pennies for a drink that’s as big as your head…

The ban on large drinks, on the other hand, could reset our notion of what a normal beverage serving looks like, and that could make all the difference.

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I believe America is in a crisis now, not only of corporate or governmental social responsibility, but of personal social responsibility; we’re uncertain of whether Wall Street or Uncle Sam has our best interest at heart, but just the same we should be looking at our neighbor. Our problem is not simply a matter of sugar, fat and salt; it is a matter of choice, behavior and education. We live in a country where we make sure our children are mathematically educated enough to figure out that two 16-ounce sodas will get them their Big Gulp fix, but where roughly 96 percent of them are not required to have daily physical education classes in school. What exactly are we teaching them about behavior and choice?…

Type 2 diabetes, in which insidious sugar sources like soda play a big role, costs this country in excess of $174 billion each year. Most Type 2 diabetics know that their lifestyles are unhealthy but do not take adequate action to prevent or reverse the disease. And who pays for it? How would we react to a corporation that did the very same? (Note: This is NOT an attack on diabetics; I am merely illustrating a point.)

And my point is simply this: Drinking soda, or better stated, our right to drink soda, is actually good for us. Isn’t that what makes America great? We’re the land of free choice. However, when government takes an arbitrary legislative potshot at the symptom, not the cause, of a problem, how much better off are we? Do we want to be hobbled by government making lifestyle choices for us, or empowered by government teaching and supporting better choices? I for one would much rather see legislation making daily physical education and nutrition classes mandatory for our students, ingraining better lifestyles and choices. And I’d love to see the Big Gulp yanked — not due to legislation, but due rather to poor sales from a healthy, educated consumer.

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Sugary drinks now provide 7% of the calories in the American diet, the largest single national source of calories. Teen boys average more than a quart of sugary soda per day. Even adults who say they are trying to lose weight still drink more two 12-ounces cans per day, on average…

Some object that the mayor’s proposal to restrict serving sizes will restrict liberty. But the liberty restricted is not the liberty of the soda-drinker. If they wish, soda drinkers can buy a 2-liter bottle of soda at the grocery for about $1.70 and pour as much of it down their throats as they wish. The liberty that is being restricted is the liberty of the soda seller to manipulate known human weaknesses to the seller’s advantage and the buyer’s detriment.

Human beings are not reasoning machines. We are animals who have inherited certain propensities not always well-adapted to modern urban life. We evolved in conditions of food scarcity. Our bodies have adapted to store food energy against famine; our subrational minds crave sweetness. The sugary beverage industry has invested massively to understand better how to use our very human natures against us.

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Are we not capable stewards of our own welfare? In general, yes, but the government has taxed cigarettes to high heaven, as a means (successful) of steering us away from them, and made it illegal to partake of many recreational drugs. Like those substances, heavily sugared soft drinks are wholly unnecessary and are implicated in health problems that wind up affecting all of us, not just the individual suffering from them. Food ceased to be a frontier too far when the fraction of American adults who qualify as obese climbed above one in three.

We’re fat, folks. Seriously, dangerously fat. And you don’t need statistics to tell you that; you just need to look around. All three people ahead of me in line in a food shop in Des Moines last month qualified as morbidly obese; they had 900 pounds — easy — among them. One of every two people in line with me at a Coney Island concession stand last weekend were carrying at least 25 extra pounds. When this many people are this overweight, you have not only an epidemic. You have a new normal, a context in which each obese person is less likely to recognize and appreciate the magnitude of his or her health problem because it’s entirely unexceptional…

Is Bloomberg putting us on a slippery slope? Maybe. But we have a long way to slide before there’s a cause for alarm commensurate with the urgency of the problem he’s trying to whittle away at. And the government routinely meddles in the markets and our lives when private behavior has severe public consequences. We reached that larded intersection scores of Big Gulps and dozens of pounds ago.

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A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 65% of American Adults oppose a law that would ban the sale of any cup or bottle of sweetened drink larger than 16 ounces. Just 24% favor a law like the one Mayor Michael Bloomberg has proposed as a way to fight obesity. Eleven percent (11%) are undecided about it.

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Via the Corner.


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He’s a ‘stand up’ man.

Schadenfreude on April 17, 2013 at 12:42 PM

If the peeps in NY want him I say power to the peeps.

Limerick on April 17, 2013 at 12:44 PM

Your city, your problem AP. Just keep him away from my state.

NotCoach on April 17, 2013 at 12:45 PM

Clearly not Ed or Rudy’s city anymore.

NYC deserves so much more.

Jabberwock on April 17, 2013 at 12:45 PM

I think he will come up a little short.

VegasRick on April 17, 2013 at 12:45 PM

Go ahead NYC, vote him in.

You know you want to – why hide it at this point?

Just go Full Monty.

ICanSeeNovFromMyHouse on April 17, 2013 at 12:45 PM

Well,I never thought this day would arrive,
imagine that,in this day and age,

a “Weiner Poll”!!

canopfor on April 17, 2013 at 12:46 PM

“And when I’m elected Mayor, I’ll send photos of my genitals to everyone!”

BobMbx on April 17, 2013 at 12:47 PM

Anthony Weiner already in second place

Another suspicious package story.

petefrt on April 17, 2013 at 12:47 PM

Kalifornia will appear conservative by comparison, if this schlong fetishist gets elected in NY :)

jimver on April 17, 2013 at 12:47 PM

New York City deserves a Weiner.

They’ve been led by weiners and douches for over half a century, Rudy Guiliani the lone exception.

wildcat72 on April 17, 2013 at 12:50 PM

We’re Number One!
We’re Number One!

Seth Halpern on April 17, 2013 at 12:50 PM

I hope he wins just because then I would absolute incontrovertible proof that America is dead and I could just give up and move on with my life

Smoochy32 on April 17, 2013 at 12:53 PM

An enterprising hawker at Yankee Stadium could make a fortune selling weiners & nuts.

Limerick on April 17, 2013 at 12:53 PM

The jokes about New York will be non-stop. C’mon, vote him in. You know you want a domineering liberal pervert to tell you who’s boss.

DanMan on April 17, 2013 at 12:53 PM

I guess New Yorkers want more Weiner

redguy on April 17, 2013 at 12:55 PM

Poll: Anthony Weiner already in second place in NYC mayoral race for some reason

C’mon, everyone knows dicks are very popular in NYC.

Weiner-boy is a perfect fit.

novaculus on April 17, 2013 at 12:55 PM

The good news? We’re still on track for a Sanford-versus-Weiner presidential election in 2028. Cross those fingers.

I.e., blogger wants self-writing posts by 2028.

rbj on April 17, 2013 at 12:55 PM

If Weiner wins, he’ll give new meaning to the phrase “The Big Apple”.

(Hold for applause)

Thank you, thank you. I’m here until Friday. Don’t forget to tip your waiter.

madmonkphotog on April 17, 2013 at 12:55 PM

We’re still on track for a Sanford-versus-Weiner presidential election in 2028. Cross those fingers.

Just ate, man.

And if something scandal-ish happens with Quinn, that gives him a chance to say that everyone’s flawed, which means the race should be about substance and not dirty laundry.

lol — substance does not include character, then. Check. Inviting friends and family to measure your personal-bidness is tiresome “dirty laundry.”

. . . wait. I’m remembering the picture. NVM. There is a dirty laundry connection.

Axe on April 17, 2013 at 12:56 PM

The Drudge Report last week: Will Weiner Rise Again?

The Drudge Report today: Wiener’s poll rising in NYC mayor race…

(Read that out loud… “poll” sounds the same as “pole”)

ITguy on April 17, 2013 at 12:56 PM

You know, if there are still any Republicans in New York City, this might create an opportunity for one of them to get elected mayor, if the Democrats decide to nominate a man best known for tweeting lewd photos of himself.

I realize that the Republican Party is known for taking any opportunity to lose an election, but if the Democrats want to try that instead in NYC this year, we should be prepared.

J.S.K. on April 17, 2013 at 12:57 PM

Too bad that his name is not spelled Wiener. That w/b perfect for him.

Schadenfreude on April 17, 2013 at 12:57 PM

Ironically, it seems appropriate to quote Karl Marx:

Hegel remarks somewhere that all facts and personages of great importance in world history occur, as it were, twice. He forgot to add: the first time as tragedy, the second as farce.

No, I won’t be surprised if the next NY Mayor’s motorcade includes a Weinermobile.

Drained Brain on April 17, 2013 at 12:58 PM

Nate Silver, prognosticator of prognosticators; says this actually is a terrible poll for the Weiner.

https://twitter.com/fivethirtyeight/status/324340079025848320

reddevil on April 17, 2013 at 12:58 PM

The good news? We’re still on track for a Sanford-versus-Weiner presidential election in 2028. Cross those fingers.

I.e., blogger wants self-writing posts by 2028.

rbj on April 17, 2013 at 12:55 PM

And we’d finally have “Giant Douche” vs “Turd Sandwich”!

wildcat72 on April 17, 2013 at 12:59 PM

Peter King needs to run.

ktrush on April 17, 2013 at 12:59 PM

I think Weiner can pull it off.

Go-Weiner-Go!

Pork-Chop on April 17, 2013 at 12:59 PM

Democrats just love to be ruled by philandering imbeciles.

tom daschle concerned on April 17, 2013 at 12:59 PM

New Slogan: Enjoy Good Health-Eat Your Honey-But Don’t Eat Weiners.

MaiDee on April 17, 2013 at 1:00 PM

Urban hillbillies. :-)

Punchenko on April 17, 2013 at 1:01 PM

Weiner is up for the challenge.

realitycheck on April 17, 2013 at 1:02 PM

Seriously, just how stupid are the folks in NYC?

Nevermind I answered it myself = NYC!

D-fusit on April 17, 2013 at 1:02 PM

The city hasn’t had a Democratic mayor in nearly 20 years …

What? Doesn’t the DIABLO in office now count?

Dexter_Alarius on April 17, 2013 at 1:03 PM

Further proof of NY stupidity….. he will be a great addition to their history of Bloomberg, Cuomo, and Schumer.

ultracon on April 17, 2013 at 1:05 PM

Megyn Kelly just reporting an additional 2 suspicious letters sent to Congress.

CoffeeLover on April 17, 2013 at 1:05 PM

Anthony Weiner will do for New York what Rahm Emanuel has done for Chicago……….namely Jack and S**t and Jack’s left town!

pilamaye on April 17, 2013 at 1:05 PM

We need to get a copy of Weiner’s “selfie” & blow it up into posters, with WEINER scrolled on it.

Blake on April 17, 2013 at 1:06 PM

So, AP, I know nothing of NYC politics, who’s the odds on favorite to the least amount of damage to you folks living there.

Cindy Munford on April 17, 2013 at 1:06 PM

he had Flaccid approval….

ToddPA on April 17, 2013 at 1:06 PM

Weinerrific!!!

Finally someone with some cajones in politics, oh wait it’s someone else on the left, nevermind.

PappyD61 on April 17, 2013 at 1:06 PM

He certainly damages the donk brand so maybe we should root for him…

Blake on April 17, 2013 at 1:08 PM

Either Quinn or Lhota need to contact the women to whom Weiner sent pictures of his weiner, get copies of the photos, and spread them over the Internet–with a caption “This is what Anthony Weiner will do to our city”.

Anyone for a good ol’ Weiner roast in the Big Apple?

Steve Z on April 17, 2013 at 1:09 PM

If he wins.. it just shows that democrats have the highest moral standards demanded of any politician………. if they’re in the republican party.

theirs?

Well nobody’s perfect..

mark81150 on April 17, 2013 at 1:11 PM

If Weiner wins, he’ll give new meaning to the phrase “The Big Apple”.

(Hold for applause)

Thank you, thank you. I’m here until Friday. Don’t forget to tip your waiter.

madmonkphotog on April 17, 2013 at 12:55 PM

Would the Big Apple become the Big Banana?

Steve Z on April 17, 2013 at 1:12 PM

Just what we need, another high profile smug jerk liberal distorting the issues on a national stage..

mark81150 on April 17, 2013 at 1:12 PM

Blake on April 17, 2013 at 1:08 PM

Does anything hurt the Democrat brand after the Lion of the Senate?

Cindy Munford on April 17, 2013 at 1:15 PM

Hey, he has the balls to stand up to big soda and he isn’t afraid to show them.

Happy Nomad on April 17, 2013 at 1:16 PM

And, with the potential of this nitwit being the next mayor of New Yawk City, they wonder about the lack of a “bipartisan moment” after Boston.

RADIOONE on April 17, 2013 at 1:17 PM

Unfortunate, but who even cares about NYC anymore?

DarkCurrent on April 17, 2013 at 1:17 PM

I care not. Mayor is a local office.

Good for you New York City.
Stand erect and proud and say it out loud …..
We DESERVE A. Weiner.

Carnac on April 17, 2013 at 1:18 PM

Does anything hurt the Democrat brand after the Lion of the Senate?

Cindy Munford on April 17, 2013 at 1:15 PM

Oh, I don’t know. A serial rapist in the White House for eight years is probably a contender.

Happy Nomad on April 17, 2013 at 1:18 PM

Does anything hurt the Democrat brand after the Lion of the Senate?

Cindy Munford on April 17, 2013 at 1:15 PM

Part of that was due to the msm who never aired the footage of him drunk and stumbling around. The man was an alcoholic and was never sober.

Blake on April 17, 2013 at 1:21 PM

Breitbart had a copy of the photo. Maybe, who ever took over his business or his wife will release it.

Blake on April 17, 2013 at 1:22 PM

Then again, a photo of any old dick will suffice as a “representation.” But people would prefer to see the real deal so they can laugh.

Blake on April 17, 2013 at 1:23 PM

Might as well erlect him; it’s not like NYC is going to elect anybody better.

M240H on April 17, 2013 at 1:23 PM

Poll: Anthony Weiner already in second place in NYC mayoral race for some reason

Oh, this is an easy one. He’s a celebrity and that’s all that matters in this attention span deficient, addled society.

kim roy on April 17, 2013 at 1:27 PM

You know, if there are still any Republicans in New York City, this might create an opportunity for one of them to get elected mayor, if the Democrats decide to nominate a man best known for tweeting lewd photos of himself.

I realize that the Republican Party is known for taking any opportunity to lose an election, but if the Democrats want to try that instead in NYC this year, we should be prepared.

J.S.K. on April 17, 2013 at 12:57 PM

Former Giuliani deputy Joe Lhota’s the likely GOP nominee. He ran operations at Madison Square Garden and last year got credit from the NYC media for having the agency prepared to avoid damage to their rolling stock when Hurricane Sandy struck, as well as getting most bus and subway lines back running within 1-2 weeks of the storm.

It was that action and the support he got that led Lhota to step down as MTA boss to run for mayor as a Republican. But we are now 24 years since the last time NYC voters actually elected the Democratic Party’s nominee as mayor, and some 18-19 year-olds who can vote this November will never have lived a day of their lives in New York with an official Democrat in City Hall. Weiner getting nominated might give Lhota a chance, but liberal NYers by now have forgotten or never remembered the worst of the Dinkins era, so I would guess they’re going to get to relive them a couple of years from now.

jon1979 on April 17, 2013 at 1:29 PM

Weiners?

Aren’t they simply an amalgamation of lips, t_ts, and a$$holes?

Not a good mix unless we’re talking about Sophia Loren back in the day…

Polish Rifle on April 17, 2013 at 1:29 PM

How many will vote for him as the last act they do as they leave the state?

kurtzz3 on April 17, 2013 at 1:32 PM

Hey, why pick on him? New York voters always seek the finest qualities and character in their candidates for office and once they find someone with a sterling set of attributes, they then reject them and vote for the opposite qualities in the most morally corrupt competitor.

Don L on April 17, 2013 at 1:35 PM

I think Weiner is the magic Republicans need in NYC.

Sanford is doing his best in SC, so it’s only fair for sex-addicted political karma to throw a bone in the other direction.

amazingmets on April 17, 2013 at 1:35 PM

Cool, another reason NYC is going down the toilet.

Tater Salad on April 17, 2013 at 1:50 PM

Obviously, there are bigger d!cks in the race than Weiner.

Dexter_Alarius on April 17, 2013 at 1:58 PM

Oscar Meyer needs to change their jingle………

ultracon on April 17, 2013 at 2:01 PM

Yep, there is no intelligent life in NY. Bloomberg for multiple terms and now this fool. And please stop calling Bloomberg a Republcan. He scammed the dumb -ass voters into thinking he would continue Giuliani’s work. They wanted an adult at the helm after 911.

Alabama Infidel on April 17, 2013 at 2:12 PM

Dick.

kirkill on April 17, 2013 at 2:20 PM

Speaks volumes about the voters in NYC.

rplat on April 17, 2013 at 2:33 PM

He certainly damages the donk brand so maybe we should root for him…

Blake on April 17, 2013 at 1:08 PM

No, he doesn’t just damage the Democrat brand . . . he confirms it.

rplat on April 17, 2013 at 2:39 PM

Low info voters thinkin’ he’s the full package.

LetsBfrank on April 17, 2013 at 2:41 PM

Tomorrow’s headlines today:

WEINER OUT IN FRONT!

Socratease on April 17, 2013 at 2:41 PM

I have a vewy gweat fwiend in Wome called ‘Biggus Dickus’.

exhelodrvr on April 17, 2013 at 2:44 PM

He certainly damages the donk ba donk a donk brand so maybe we should root for him…

Blake on April 17, 2013 at 1:08 PM

fify :-)

LetsBfrank on April 17, 2013 at 2:59 PM

Stand erect and proud and say it out loud …..
We DESERVE A. Weiner.

Carnac on April 17, 2013 at 1:18 PM

Heh.

ITguy on April 17, 2013 at 3:38 PM

Doesn’t NYC already have a dick for a Mayor?

mojo on April 17, 2013 at 4:22 PM

Sadly, I have to conclude that the citizens of New York City are just stupid.

RebeccaH on April 17, 2013 at 6:59 PM

New Yorkers, especially around 9/11, should consider his wife’s ties to the Muslim Brotherhood.

His idiotic personal behavior is the least of his issues.

virgo on April 18, 2013 at 1:19 AM

Too bad it’s to late to get William Marcey “Boss” Tweed back.

Tammany Hall ran the city better than the baboon collection they have had recently.

Christine rampaging lesbian Quinn versus Anthony pull my Weiner. What choices. Goodbye New York.

Spots the Dog on April 18, 2013 at 6:47 AM

Seriously, New Yorkers.

Are you THAT stupid?

You get what you deserve, then. I will not be visiting your city ever again.

Sponge on April 18, 2013 at 12:57 PM