PPP poll shows Walker up 3 in WI

posted at 9:01 am on June 4, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

What to think of the latest PPP poll in Wisconsin?  On one hand, a narrow lead within the margin of error on the day before an election might signal a slight and final shift in momentum in Tom Barrett’s favor.  On the other, PPP is a Democratic pollster who might be looking for the best possible take on the race — and having the Democrat down three as a best case would be a positive for supporters of Scott Walker.  The Hill reports on the results:

A new poll finds Republican Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker with a narrowed lead over Democratic challenger Tom Barrett ahead of Tuesday’s recall vote.

Public Policy Polling survey released Monday shows Walker with the support of 50 percent of likely voters, ahead of Milwaukee Mayor Barrett at 47 percent.

But Walker’s support is down from a 50 to 45 percent edge in the same poll conducted three weeks ago and down from the seven-point 52-45 lead Walker held in a Marquette Law poll released last week.

PPP compares itself to Marquette as a way to argue for a changing electorate too, but that’s a false comparison.  One can make comparisons within a survey series for that kind of argument, as PPP also does when noting the change from the 50/45 from three weeks ago in its own polls, but a comparison against another pollster as a series is invalid.  It’s worth pointing out, too, that even within the PPP series, a change from 50/45 to 50/47 is statistical noise, well within the margin of error. It’s basically no change at all.

PPP’s own internals don’t support an analysis that Walker has lost momentum, either:

Walker has a 51/47 approval rating. He’s up with men (55-42), whites (52-46), seniors (58-39), and especially voters in the Milwaukee suburbs (70/29).

Barrett has a 46/46 favorability rating, improved from 43/46 on our first poll after the primary. He’s winning with women (52/46), minorities (58-36), young voters (53-39), those in Milwaukee County (61-35), and ones in greater Madison (59-37).

This is a close race, closer than it was a couple weeks ago. Scott Walker’s still the favorite but Barrett’s prospects for an upset look better than they have in a long time.

That is an exercise in spin.  First, as noted, the topline results haven’t changed at all in the statistical sense.  Second, Barrett only leads women by six points and barely holds a majority among younger voters — and that’s good news for a Democrat?  Walker has majority approval statewide, holds a +13 among men, and wins by almost 20 points among seniors.  Barrett’s only getting 59% in “greater Madison,” which one presumes would be the area of Dane County most densely populated with public employee union members.  Meanwhile, Walker’s taking 70% of the suburbs around Barrett’s own city.

Turnout will definitely be key, but don’t take too much from this last PPP poll.  The change in status PPP claims is overblown, and the internals point entirely to a different conclusion than a heightened chance of an upset.

Update: For some reason, I confused “greater Madison” with Madison County.  Madison is in Dane County. I’ve fixed the reference above.


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hillsoftx on June 4, 2012 at 9:04 AM

Has anybody polled the zombie vote yet?

Don L on June 4, 2012 at 9:05 AM

MEDIA SPIN PREDICTION

Walker wins, it didn’t matter, Barrett ran a crappy campaign.

Walker loses, Obama’s brushes with the state helped to swing key areas in favor of the Communist Democrat pick.

Now, you can skip the CNN/MSNBC/ABC/CBS/NPR/NBC/WAPO/LAT/NYT analysis after the results come in.

PappyD61 on June 4, 2012 at 9:06 AM

I know the left is really working hard
with GOTV … bussing folks to the polls
how about the GOP … are they
really working the GOTV? hope so ….

conservative tarheel on June 4, 2012 at 9:06 AM

but a comparison against another pollster as a series is invalid. It’s worth pointing out, too, that even within the PPP series, a chance from 50/45 to 50/47 is statistical noise, well within the margin of error. It’s basically no change at all.

Ed does a stellar job at reading the stitches on these fastballs.

ted c on June 4, 2012 at 9:07 AM

Ed Schultz hardest hit. The Bill Clinton trip was to save face for Dems and plus maybe there’s some skanks he knows in WI.

gsherin on June 4, 2012 at 9:07 AM

Been waiting for this for a while now. Bring it on. The #wiunion twitterati are all bemoaning the Tea Party turnout this past weekend.

Going to love reading their “outrage” come later tomorrow night.

Tea Party Roll!

GadsdenRattlers on June 4, 2012 at 9:07 AM

If Walker wins, unions and Julia are hardest hit.

Happy Nomad on June 4, 2012 at 9:08 AM

PPP = Pi$$ Poor Polling

That is all you need to know

Skwor on June 4, 2012 at 9:08 AM

I’ll be glad to see this election over…

OmahaConservative on June 4, 2012 at 9:08 AM

Just wait until that Scott Walker love child story gets out!!11!! /WI Dem

It’ll be so sweet to have the Dems defeated on this. C’mon WI…do the right thing!

changer1701 on June 4, 2012 at 9:10 AM

Yawn! another poll.

gerrym51 on June 4, 2012 at 9:11 AM

Only 3%, we have a chance…the chant of the ill informed.

More like 13%, but at least they are giving it a good try.

This will be devastating to the RNC, not just Wisc. but a sign to the rest of the states…a conservative policy wins.

right2bright on June 4, 2012 at 9:11 AM

Who did the Koch Brothers payoff to make sure Walker has a lead in this poll? Real citizens of Gaza North prefer Barrett.

Bishop on June 4, 2012 at 9:11 AM

WINCONSIN FOR THE GOLDEN BOY … SCOTT WALKER!

OTH, SCOTT WALKER FOR PRESIDENT 2012!

TheAlamos on June 4, 2012 at 9:11 AM

Nitpicky correction, but it’s *Dane* County, not Madison County. Madison is the capitol city though…

Vancomycin on June 4, 2012 at 9:11 AM

PPP is also the ONLY polling outfit that has had Barret with a lead ANY time in the last year. Either they are the most brilliant pollsters in the land or they should be uniformly ignored. I guess we will find out tomorrow.

dirtseller on June 4, 2012 at 9:13 AM

PPP = the surviving Nazgul desperately flying back to Mordor in a futile last-minute effort to save Sauron /LOTR geek

cicerone on June 4, 2012 at 9:14 AM

Ed,

Madison is in Dane County, not Madison County. FYI

Deano1952 on June 4, 2012 at 9:15 AM

If/when Walker wins this one, will the state borders have to be shut in order to keep the legislature from fleeing????

/valid questions.

ted c on June 4, 2012 at 9:15 AM

I live in a very liberal area of Milwaukee. Yard signs showing support of Barrett over Walker are maybe 3 to 1. That is what they were in the gubernatorial eleciton. In the past, the Dem candidate would have at least a 6 to 1 ratio. More Walker signs have shown up- and disappeared- over the last couple of weeks.

More interesting is when you get out of the city. The signage for Walker jumps dramatically. Driving throught Oconomowoc and Muskego this weekend and rarely saw a Barrett sign. You would see none unless you were in town.

StB on June 4, 2012 at 9:16 AM

Fake

Conservative4ev on June 4, 2012 at 9:17 AM

I have to go with the theory that PPP is spinning hard in order to stir up some enthusiasm for getting the Lib vote out. Nearly 7% isn’t going to get any of the whiners out of bed.

BettyRuth on June 4, 2012 at 9:17 AM

Regardless of the outcome of the election, this is still Wisconsin we’re talking about. Dirt roads, lack of indoor plumbing, mud huts; whoever ends up governor of all that shouldn’t be envied.

Bishop on June 4, 2012 at 9:18 AM

Weekend poll when Democrats usually hold the advantage.

Steve Eggleston on June 4, 2012 at 9:18 AM

Don’t dismiss PPP. They have been more accurate than Rasmussen and nailed the WI recalls last summer (only missed one and that was by 1%. The odd thing about this race is that Walker is supposed to have a huge money advantage, but the ad buys are about equal here.

And Walker didn’t come up with a good closing ad/argument, which hurts momentum.

gumbyandpokey on June 4, 2012 at 9:19 AM

Who did the Koch Brothers payoff to make sure Walker has a lead in this poll? Real citizens of Gaza North prefer Barrett.

Bishop on June 4, 2012 at 9:11 AM

Actually would have preferred Franken, or Dayton, but they were already gainfully employed elsewhere.

WryTrvllr on June 4, 2012 at 9:19 AM

I am betting the final spread will be double what PPP is currently stating.

Than we will have a yardstick to judge every other poll they do. Take the MOE and multiply by 2.

Marcus Traianus on June 4, 2012 at 9:20 AM

The final polls before an election are the ones a polling firm has to get right, because they’re the only ones that can be directly compared to voter response. So for a liberal polling outfit like PPP, Walker by 3 means that:

A.) They’re not willing to risk their reputations by running a poll that skewers the sample so much that Barrett is ahead, but;

B.) Doesn’t go all-in for Walker, to the point that the fellow liberals who are the ones funding your polling operations get angry at you for not spinning the final numbers.

Walker by 3 allows PPP come Wednesday to most likely say they called the election correctly, if Walker wins, but still gives Barrett’s supporters a glimmer of hope. If the +3 for Walker undershoots the final totals outside the margin of error, and, say, Walker wins by eight, they can downplay that part when the recall election is referred to in the future.

jon1979 on June 4, 2012 at 9:21 AM

The fall out is already beginning …

Michigan Attorney General Bill Schuette released a letter Friday that mandated that state agencies were to end the withholding of SEIU dues from private individuals who provide home health care. “Private individuals do not transform into public employees simply by participating in taxpayer-funded programs like Medicaid,” he said in the letter. “In order to comply with the law, state agencies should end the withholding of public union dues from private individuals who provide home help.”

J_Crater on June 4, 2012 at 9:23 AM

Snoopy dance at the ready

cmsinaz on June 4, 2012 at 9:24 AM

If walker wins by more than 5 points, the gnashing of teeth from DC will be heard all the way to the left coast.

LoganSix on June 4, 2012 at 9:25 AM

Has anybody polled the zombie vote yet?

Don L on June 4, 2012 at 9:05 AM

Zombies go for Walker 99/1, apparently due to a penchant for ‘Brains’.

a5minmajor on June 4, 2012 at 9:26 AM

My completely unscientific and unsupported prediction is Walker wins by at least 8 points (and even that seems low based on the results Scott Walker has achieved in less than 2 years).

Anyone voting for Barrett can only want to pull the state and everyone that cannot relocate back into a fiscal hole of union graft and corruption.

The only message that would be sent is that political courage and honesty have no place in a union run state and I cannot believe that the idiots outnumber the sane and rational citizens.

CitizenEgg on June 4, 2012 at 9:27 AM

cmsinaz on June 4, 2012 at 9:24 AM

If he wins-we’re gonna need something…uh stronger than the ‘Bot!

annoyinglittletwerp on June 4, 2012 at 9:28 AM

This whole thing is making me nervous. I hope Wisconsin turns out for Walker.

magicbeans on June 4, 2012 at 9:29 AM

Zombies go for Walker 99/1, apparently due to a penchant for ‘Brains’.

a5minmajor on June 4, 2012 at 9:26 AM

Thread WINNAH!

annoyinglittletwerp on June 4, 2012 at 9:30 AM

annoyinglittletwerp on June 4, 2012 at 9:28 AM

I agree, ALyT in bunny suit.

cozmo on June 4, 2012 at 9:30 AM

Second poll from Angus Reid Public Opinion (via ConArtCritic) of 507 “decided” voters – Walker 53%, Barrett 47%.

They only include three crosstabs (gender, age and Obama/McCain 2008 vote), and I haven’t heard of this outfit before, so take the numbers with the usual bag of salt. However, that last crosstab is rather interesting – Walker holds 88% of McCain’s voters and takes 22% of Obama’s. That tracks pretty well with the Marquette Law poll that shows the split partisan decision.

Steve Eggleston on June 4, 2012 at 9:34 AM

I agree, ALyT in bunny suit.

cozmo on June 4, 2012 at 9:30 AM

I can’t post the photo of me as the bunny w/out giving away my ‘real’ name.

annoyinglittletwerp on June 4, 2012 at 9:37 AM

Snoopy dance at the ready

cmsinaz on June 4, 2012 at 9:24 AM

No kidding.

Of course, I’m already laughing at how this story has progressed. When the recall initiative started, the left was howling about how important this effort was and how it would show once and for all where the people of WI stood vis-a-vis public sector unions. This weekend, the same idiots were saying that the results are such an inconsequential thing compared to the message the recall sent. In other words, the left seems to be content with simply getting a participation ribbon- allbeit one that cost millions of dollars.

Happy Nomad on June 4, 2012 at 9:39 AM

Actually would have preferred Franken, or Dayton, but they were already gainfully employed elsewhere.

WryTrvllr on June 4, 2012 at 9:19 AM

Pols come and go, Wisconsin will always be a cesspool of putridness.

Bishop on June 4, 2012 at 9:40 AM

For some reason, I confused “greater Madison” with Madison County

Dude. Please get Meryl Streep off your mind when blogging about Wisconsin.

kthybye

MNHawk on June 4, 2012 at 9:41 AM

annoyinglittletwerp on June 4, 2012 at 9:37 AM

You have more excuses than 0bama

cozmo on June 4, 2012 at 9:42 AM

Steve Eggleston on June 4, 2012 at 9:34 AM

Should’ve read the release more closely. That is a clone of Zogby Interactive.

Steve Eggleston on June 4, 2012 at 9:43 AM

C-BS Radio “News” has been breathlessly flogging this new PPP “poll” all morning.

Good Little Stalinistas! Uncle Joe would approve…

Del Dolemonte on June 4, 2012 at 9:43 AM

Pols come and go, Wisconsin will always be a cesspool of putridness.

Bishop on June 4, 2012 at 9:40 AM

cesspools can be cleaned …..

conservative tarheel on June 4, 2012 at 9:45 AM

Dana Loesch did her part to rally the troops at Racine’s Tea Party rally on Saturday! And as she’s been known to do from time to time, got in some good jabs at WI democrats.

Flora Duh on June 4, 2012 at 9:47 AM

Walker by 10 points. Dem enthusiasm too low. This will be a Humpbot moment for the nation!

Rovin on June 4, 2012 at 9:49 AM

Pols come and go, Wisconsin will always be a cesspool of putridness.

Bishop on June 4, 2012 at 9:40 AM

Can’t fix having voted in Franken

WryTrvllr on June 4, 2012 at 9:54 AM

Walker by 10 points. Dem enthusiasm too low. This will be a Humpbot moment for the nation!

Rovin on June 4, 2012 at 9:49 AM
From your mouth to G-d’s ears!

annoyinglittletwerp on June 4, 2012 at 9:54 AM

Isn’t there supposed to be another poll tomorrow. Can’t wait for the results of that one.

Oldnuke on June 4, 2012 at 9:54 AM

DFL

That’s Dumb F’n Liberal……right?

WryTrvllr on June 4, 2012 at 9:55 AM

Isn’t there supposed to be another poll tomorrow. Can’t wait for the results of that one.

Oldnuke on June 4, 2012 at 9:54 AM

You mean the one that counts? Yea.

VegasRick on June 4, 2012 at 9:58 AM

3%…very stealable!

KOOLAID2 on June 4, 2012 at 9:58 AM

On a tangential note, I have to include this. Those from Wisconsin will probably find it funny.

My family and I went to Wisconsin last week for a few days – we’d never been.

Anyhow, I kept seeing billboards for the Tommy Bartlett Show and similar billboards. My initial thought was that this was the guy running against Scott Walker. I thought, how absurd, the guy is turning to theatrics to try and garner support!

We saw a fair number of billboards, signs and bumper stickers both for and against Gov. Walker. This was along I-90 up to Wisconsin Dells.

Logus on June 4, 2012 at 10:01 AM

Barrett leads 61-35 in Milwaukee County, but Walker leads 70-29 in the Milwaukee suburbs? Sounds like an oxymoron, unless the “Milwaukee suburbs” are not in Milwaukee County.

Does anyone know the D/R/I splits in this poll?

Steve Z on June 4, 2012 at 10:03 AM

Can’t fix having voted in Franken

WryTrvllr on June 4, 2012 at 9:54 AM

Like David Obey(D-WI), Franken will eventually pass out of the system. The wasteland of Wisconsin will always be…well…a wasteland.

Bishop on June 4, 2012 at 10:03 AM

I know the left is really working hard
with GOTV … bussing folks to the polls
how about the GOP … are they
really working the GOTV? hope so ….

conservative tarheel on June 4, 2012 at 9:06 AM

Yes!!
The footage I saw of the GOP in action was simply amazing. Legions hitting door-to-door with ipads for organization and thorough canvassing.

I normally fear the dems have a better union and Soros-esque-funded ground game, but the GOP is kicking some butt in WI.

We need to keep the choke hold on them through November not just Tuesday night!

litebeam1 on June 4, 2012 at 10:03 AM

Weekend poll when Democrats usually hold the advantage.

Steve Eggleston on June 4, 2012 at 9:18 AM

And what is the sample? All the other polls have Walker up by a wide margin and then there is the not so small effect of the mail attack on non voters that hasn’t been measured yet.

Or as another poster asked, was that a call by the dems to attempt massive voter fraud by casting ballots for those who did not vote in previous elections?

It’s an ugly tactic whatever their purpose.

dogsoldier on June 4, 2012 at 10:03 AM

Logus on June 4, 2012 at 10:01 AM

Also, just so you know…Noah’s Ark isn’t really the Noah’s Ark from the Bible. ;)

MadisonConservative on June 4, 2012 at 10:04 AM

Like David Obey(D-WI), Franken will eventually pass out of the system. The wasteland of Wisconsin will always be…well…a wasteland.

Bishop on June 4, 2012 at 10:03 AM

Hey Bish, how is it living in a liberal hellhole? Just asking, because…I can’t remember what it’s like. I think I’m going to forget even more once this election is over.

MadisonConservative on June 4, 2012 at 10:06 AM

Barrett leads 61-35 in Milwaukee County, but Walker leads 70-29 in the Milwaukee suburbs? Sounds like an oxymoron, unless the “Milwaukee suburbs” are not in Milwaukee County.

Does anyone know the D/R/I splits in this poll?

Steve Z on June 4, 2012 at 10:03 AM

The “Milwaukee suburbs” PPP is speaking about are in Waukesha, Washington and Ozaukee Counties, all very-heavily Republican.

Supposedly the split is 34% I / 34% R / 32% D.

Steve Eggleston on June 4, 2012 at 10:06 AM

They just have to be in range where massive voter fraud can work (say 3%). The dead will vote in those numbers as needed.

michaelo on June 4, 2012 at 10:07 AM

Hey Bish, how is it living in a liberal hellhole? Just asking, because…I can’t remember what it’s like. I think I’m going to forget even more once this election is over.

MadisonConservative on June 4, 2012 at 10:06 AM

At least on a state level you can’t remember.

Steve Eggleston on June 4, 2012 at 10:07 AM

The odd thing about this race is that Walker is supposed to have a huge money advantage, but the ad buys are about equal here.

And Walker didn’t come up with a good closing ad/argument, which hurts momentum.

gumbyandpokey on June 4, 2012 at 9:19 AM

IIRC, Walker’s money advantage was in funds raised during a certain window before the recall was official and he was required to spend that particular money within a set timeframe, which was before the final run-up to the election.

teke184 on June 4, 2012 at 10:07 AM

Like David Obey(D-WI), Franken will eventually pass out of the system. The wasteland of Wisconsin will always be…well…a wasteland.

Bishop on June 4, 2012 at 10:03 AM

Sitting on the biggest natural aquifer in the US. Nah. And NO shotgun-only restriction either!!!

WryTrvllr on June 4, 2012 at 10:10 AM

At least on a state level you can’t remember.

Steve Eggleston on June 4, 2012 at 10:07 AM

Obviously, the city level won’t change.

That said, I’ll enjoy my day off on Wednesday, walking the square, looking for forlorn faces.

MadisonConservative on June 4, 2012 at 10:13 AM

All the voter-fraud-crooks will be out in force for the Demonrats.

Stand With Walker!

Jaibones on June 4, 2012 at 10:16 AM

At this point my major concern is about MASSIVE voter fraud on the Democrat side. They’ve given every indication that this is a big part or this year’s game plan. Look at DOJ challenging all the newly minted state voter ID laws. Recently, Holder’s been threatening Florida for trying to purge ineligble voters from their roles. I hope my fears are misplaced.

In a fair election, Walker takes this in…well…a walk. Will we get that fair election?

Tomolena1 on June 4, 2012 at 10:17 AM

PPP is also the ONLY polling outfit that has had Barret with a lead ANY time in the last year. Either they are the most brilliant pollsters in the land or they should be uniformly ignored. I guess we will find out tomorrow.

dirtseller on June 4, 2012 at 9:13 AM

They are the only pollster that prices the margin of fraud in…

Archivarix on June 4, 2012 at 10:18 AM

A local talk show host just made a good point.

That flyer that was handed out should throw up warning flags for voter fraud. Because the ID law is on hold, there is really no real way of verifying the voter is who they say they are. So they can go by the list, and go vote under those names of people who have not voted in a long while.

watertown on June 4, 2012 at 10:23 AM

In a fair election, Walker takes this in…well…a walk. Will we get that fair election?

Tomolena1 on June 4, 2012 at 10:17 AM

No it will be massive voter fraud. We might see car trunks full of ballots “found” a few days later.

watertown on June 4, 2012 at 10:25 AM

Also, just so you know…Noah’s Ark isn’t really the Noah’s Ark from the Bible. ;)

MadisonConservative on June 4, 2012 at 10:04 AM

Aw man.

Well surely I have a piece of the real cross and a piece of Mary’s robe stowed away…

In March we went to Pigeon Forge, Tenn. NOT our kind of environment. The Dells felt like Gatlinburg – which is near Pigeon Forge. From what I’ve heard, Branson, MO is similar to Pigeon Forge/Gatlinburg.

Way, way too many attractions. Looks tacky it’s so overdone, stuffed, etc. So touristy it changes the whole purpose and beauty of the region(s) to a degree.

We only went to one attraction. Our eldest child is a train nut. Other than that, we stayed at the resort.

Beautiful countryside, southern Wisconsin. Got us dreaming again about our plan/goal to one day have a small farm.

Logus on June 4, 2012 at 10:26 AM

As stated b4 on many threads: UW is not in session, the kids are not in Madison; summer session doesn’t start until June 18. The kids are dispersed, both in-state and many out of state. Huge bonus for Walker to reduce fraud and illegal out-of-state voting in Dane County.

matthew8787 on June 4, 2012 at 10:28 AM

I urge anyone who thinks PPP is some biased Dem junk polling outfit to check their performance on the recalls last August in WI. They did as well as any firm could do.

gumbyandpokey on June 4, 2012 at 10:28 AM

Beautiful countryside, southern Wisconsin. Got us dreaming again about our plan/goal to one day have a small farm.

Logus on June 4, 2012 at 10:26 AM

go further southwest into the state next time.

WryTrvllr on June 4, 2012 at 10:33 AM

I urge anyone who thinks PPP is some biased Dem junk polling outfit to check their performance on the recalls last August in WI. They did as well as any firm could do.

gumbyandpokey on June 4, 2012 at 10:28 AM

Counterpoint – when a polling firm includes in its “straight” poll reporting how a particular party (and only that party, which happens to be the same party as the managers of that firm) can overcome the reported disadvantage, it IS a biased Dem junk polling firm.

Steve Eggleston on June 4, 2012 at 10:33 AM

Mornin’ everyone!
For what it’s worth, I just got back from a long fishing weekend up on the Wolf River in Wisconsin, near Fremont. On the drive up and back (2 different routes) and while up in the area, I saw a lot of “Stand with Walker” yard signs, billboards and bumper stickers but only one “Recall Walker” bumper sticker and one similar yard sign. I didn’t see a single Barrett sign anywhere.

ChicagoBlues on June 4, 2012 at 10:53 AM

Popcorn is ready.

hillsoftx on June 4, 2012 at 9:04 AM

Ed: time to put Humpbot in ALERT 30 status… we’ll be turning the carrier into the wind tomorrow night!!

Khun Joe on June 4, 2012 at 11:03 AM

That’s alright. If Barret wins we will give him 1 year and then start the recall. After all it only costs WI 17 million and WI will be able to save that by getting Barret out. Never fear WI we will prevail over all the frauds being committed by the Dems. I am a teacher and I support Walker.

HOOLiBAR6 on June 4, 2012 at 11:11 AM

Me thinks that if Walker wins by 7 points or more (as I think he will), Hot Air needs to get into PPP’s face and say: “What happened?” as this smacks of dishonesty, manipulation, and propaganda. Also will be interesting to see how many votes Barrett gets as compared to the number of recall signatures, which I think were also wildly inflated and manipulated.

Send the recall bill to the “Dem” (Socialist/Communist) Party, and to the Unions.

Oh — and screw them.

RobertMN on June 4, 2012 at 11:14 AM

Want to add on my previous remark that in that one year we will have a chance to stop all that voter fraud so Barret would not win a second time.

HOOLiBAR6 on June 4, 2012 at 11:14 AM

At this point my major concern is about MASSIVE voter fraud on the Democrat side.

Tomolena1 on June 4, 2012 at 10:17 AM

This ^^^ is my fear. Taxpayers are the union’s lifeblood. They’ll not go down with merely a whimper. I’ll place myself in the cautiously optimistic column. Last weekend I traveled through the counties of Fond du Lac, Winnebago, Outagamie, and Shawano … saw only one Barrett sign, which gives me hope. Closer to home in Washington and Ozaukee counties, I’ve seen three Barrett signs and one Mahlon Mitchell sign … it’s mostly a sea of blue Walker signs around here.

Italia on June 4, 2012 at 11:21 AM

PPP most likely skewed the polls to get turn-out up by convincing liberals that they can win. The goal seems to be to get it to within several thousand votes of Walker, so they can steal it in the end (or as I like to call it, the Al Franken approach).

milcus on June 4, 2012 at 11:22 AM

Regardless of the outcome of the election, this is still Wisconsin we’re talking about. Dirt roads, lack of indoor plumbing, mud huts; whoever ends up governor of all that shouldn’t be envied.

Bishop on June 4, 2012 at 9:18 AM

I take it you hadn’t heard, Bishop. Scott Walker signed legislation that mandates indoor plumbing. I’m stoked about my planned excursion to Menards to scope out a new Kohler./

Italia on June 4, 2012 at 11:27 AM

Ed: time to put Humpbot in ALERT 30 status… we’ll be turning the carrier into the wind tomorrow night!!

Khun Joe on June 4, 2012 at 11:03 AM

notify the escorts to light off all boilers prepare to answer all bells
prepare to turn into the wind … prepare to launch the alert cat.

conservative tarheel on June 4, 2012 at 11:46 AM

Menards to scope out a new Kohler./

Italia on June 4, 2012 at 11:27 AM

How do y’all pronounce that?

May-nerd or meh-Nard (That’s how it’d be pronounced in south Louisiana)?

First time I heard of that store, this guy came to mind.

Logus on June 4, 2012 at 11:50 AM

… prepare to launch the alert cat.

conservative tarheel on June 4, 2012 at 11:46 AM

All the “cats” capable of being launched…are retired.

Now you call it a super bug.

Today is the anniversary of the start of the Battle of Midway. Some “cats” were launched then.

cozmo on June 4, 2012 at 11:50 AM

That’s alright. If Barret wins we will give him 1 year and then start the recall. After all it only costs WI 17 million and WI will be able to save that by getting Barret out. Never fear WI we will prevail over all the frauds being committed by the Dems. I am a teacher and I support Walker.

HOOLiBAR6 on June 4, 2012 at 11:11 AM

If he loses, he can always get a job at the Tommy Barrett show.

Logus on June 4, 2012 at 11:51 AM

I watched a lot of coverage about this over the weekend. From what I was able to glean, the school districts that hurried up and got a contract in before all of the legal BS was over, have all had to do significant layoffs and the districts that didn’t rush their contracts, have had very little layoffs.

They interviewed a teach on Fox and Friends this morning who is in one of the state wide Pro Walker ads. Brave lady. She said they had a lot of layoffs in her district and that her earnings will continue to be confiscated by the union until June 2013. She said at that time, she will be free of the mandatory dues collections and withholding.

Can you imagine how much worse the union rolls will look next summer after these rushed contracts are over?

The public teacher unions are in a world of hurt. Add this WI clustermess to Jindal’s success at getting student vouchers through in LA, and the union peeps need to be afraid, very afraid of becoming totally obsolete. Happy days.

karenhasfreedom on June 4, 2012 at 11:53 AM

How do y’all pronounce that?

…meh-Nard…

Logus on June 4, 2012 at 11:50 AM

There ya go.

MadisonConservative on June 4, 2012 at 11:59 AM

Like David Obey(D-WI), Franken will eventually pass out of the system. The wasteland of Wisconsin will always be…well…a wasteland.

Bishop on June 4, 2012 at 10:03 AM

Eh, Franken may eventually die and leave the seat open decades from now but Minnesota will find someone just as capable as him to fill the seat- maybe Ventura would like the spot.

Minnesota is permanently stuck on stupid.

Betenoire on June 4, 2012 at 12:58 PM

I take it you hadn’t heard, Bishop. Scott Walker signed legislation that mandates indoor plumbing. I’m stoked about my planned excursion to Menards to scope out a new Kohler./

Italia on June 4, 2012 at 11:27 AM

Kohler was one of the companies that made a big deal about not advertising with Rush anymore. /Just in case that still matters to some.

Betenoire on June 4, 2012 at 1:01 PM

I Leiu of Humpbot I beleive this would be appropriate…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwnxTAA260w

Green_Bay_Packers on June 4, 2012 at 1:23 PM

This poll includes the planned surge of Chicago SEIU voters.

burt on June 4, 2012 at 1:31 PM

This poll includes the planned surge of Chicago SEIU voters.

burt on June 4, 2012 at 1:31 PM

This. We must have programs to cross-check for double-voting in states that border each other, and all of them with resort states like Florida, Arizona, etc. This is a huge issue where big corrupt liberal cities are cut by borders, like St. Louis, Kansas City, etc.

slickwillie2001 on June 4, 2012 at 2:27 PM

PPP compares itself to Marquette as a way to argue for a changing electorate too, but that’s a false comparison.

Notice that too. They’re playing games.

CW on June 4, 2012 at 3:28 PM

Angus-Reid Poll has Walker up 5.

CW on June 4, 2012 at 3:31 PM

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