I am sorry. I insulted children and jackasses. I apologize to them. Neither of them is nearly as brainless and wilfully irresponsible as the phony “conservatives” who would let Obama have four more years to finish the job he’s been doing on us completely free of the constraint of having to win reelection.

fadetogray on June 5, 2012 at 1:06 PM

Just empty words and childish insults with false apologies from someone whose pretending he’s somehow the “Adult” of this debate. I am well aware of the risk of Obama, I however, do not ignore the risk of Romney.

You can take poison from the Blue cup and put it in the Red cup, it’s still poison. It doesn’t magically stop being poison just because you serve the poisonous ideas inside of a different cup. You do not end a concern about the poison by force feeding it to someone who doesn’t want to drink it. You end the concern, by pouring out the poison from the cup, cleaning it out, and serving a fresh, clean drink.

Again, because I have to state this apparently over and over again to even get this through to you.
There is a problem: Romney has a very Liberal, very R.I.N.O. record that can not be ignored except by blind ignorance. To this day, despite his supposed changes in outlooks (many of which come all too conveniently when an election rolls around) he still flirts too often with big government liberalism and crony capitalism. If we’re going to say it’s bad when a Democrat does it, then we can not afford to ignore it and say “But it’s ok when a Republican does it”. Wearing the Party blinders, ends up with Big Government elitism. And right now, the only “assurance” we who share a more independent Small Government view have, is mere words from Romney, which he has proven all too often, are just that, mere empty words, and this nebulous “Well it’s ok if he wins, because we’re “sure” he’ll lean conservative”

To jump blindly onboard, is to be a hypocrite. It would be saying: “We’ll criticize Eric Holder for trying to cook the books via Operation Fast and Furious to boost his chances at taking away 2nd amendment rights, but we’ll support a R.I.N.O. who supports laws that strip away our 2nd amendment rights, as long as it’s to beat Obama.” It would be saying “Yea, we’re ok supporting the guy whose responsible for passing the foundation to Obamacare and many of the unconstitutional pieces of Obamacare, if it means we can defeat Obama” and so on and so forth.

Tell me, how is that a victory? Yea, I’ll support those who I feel are for small government, local, and federal for House and Senate, but don’t try to force me to be a hypocrite for sake of sports team mentality. That’s not going to fix the problems we have in the U.S. it’s only going to tell the major parties that they can continue to take advantage of us, and take further money from our wallets, and gain further unchecked power, and completely ignore the problems our nation has.

Is he strongly Conservative, too?

kingsjester on June 4, 2012 at 4:28 PM

No he is severely conservative !!!

Cogito ergo sum ….NOT a close-minded ABR trying to escape to a theoretical fantasyland.

FlaMurph on June 5, 2012 at 11:35 AM

Put your big boy pants on and stop crying like little girls.

FlaMurph on June 5, 2012 at 6:34 PM

lol.

Hot

Gassssss

“were so moderate…we don’t even understand ourselves”

Hot

Gas

“PROUDLY Center-Right”

Buckshot Bill
renalin
HondaV65

You are in the desert of discontent.

Get out of the desert.

Newt and Santy aren’t coming back.

Put your big boy pants on and stop crying like little girls.

When I said ‘deficit’ I meant ‘debt’. The deficit WILL be reduced each year. Count it.

MaggiePoo on June 5, 2012 at 4:10 PM

behold! an example of a rabid mittbot. shamelessly lying. what about leavitt=crony capitalist extraordinaire. who do you think is going to pay for his fancy cars and airplanes.

you mittbots will cut your nose off to spite your face. yeeeeecch.

When I said ‘deficit’ I meant ‘debt’. The deficit WILL be reduced each year. Count it.

MaggiePoo on June 5, 2012 at 4:10 PM

And if you wish really hard, he’ll give you a skittle-shiting unicorn just like Obama promised you in 2008.

Romney has a history, ignoring it may make him more palatable, but doesn’t change who he is and will always be. If he wins in November, the government won’t decrease in size by a single job over the next 4 years, spending won’t decrease by one penny, and the deficit will continue to balloon at a record pace.

And you’ll be here defending him just like the O-bots defend their loser-in-chief, no matter how obviously useless he is.

Buckshot Bill on June 5, 2012 at 3:53 PM

I didn’t know you were a Democrat, that changes things. They’re the ones who cite history and ignore context. The deficit won’t be reduced in year one or two or even three. But the structure of our spending will change for the better and the curve will go down along with higher revenues coming in because the tax code will be cleaned up to a large extent and the economy will grow.

You’re just afraid Romney will win so you’ll have to eat your words.

Unless you’re a loser who believes (out of principle, of course) that America will fail if the deficit increases by even a penny.

Get a life.

And you know this how? You’ve got your own fevered swamp you’re mucking around in.

MaggiePoo on June 5, 2012 at 3:48 PM

Romney has a history, ignoring it may make him more palatable, but doesn’t change who he is and will always be. If he wins in November, the government won’t decrease in size by a single job over the next 4 years, spending won’t decrease by one penny, and the deficit will continue to balloon at a record pace.

And you’ll be here defending him just like the O-bots defend their loser-in-chief, no matter how obviously useless he is.

Romney doesn’t want to cut anything, and never will. You’re compromising your beliefs for nothing. Or you don’t actually have beliefs, whichever.

Buckshot Bill on June 5, 2012 at 3:46 PM

And you know this how? You’ve got your own fevered swamp you’re mucking around in.

But if there is NO compromise on how much to cut and over what period and there are only demands to do it all NOW, you will lose.

Thus, I’m backing Romney and believe the anti-Romney folks are losers.

MaggiePoo on June 5, 2012 at 3:40 PM

Romney doesn’t want to cut anything, and never will. You’re compromising your beliefs for nothing. Or you don’t actually have beliefs, whichever.

Ron Paul compromises but has the best definition I’ve seen. If your principles are to cut spending and lower taxes then you can compromise ONLY IF the result is still in the direction you’re aiming for.

If you want to cut spending a lot you can compromise and cut less as long as the result is a cut. The same, obviously, goes for taxes.

If you want to cut spending but the Dems want to increase it, then NO compromise is to be allowed that merely increases spending less.

Isn’t that obvious?

For decades compromise has led to what the Democrats want, just a little bit less.

No longer.

But if there is NO compromise on how much to cut and over what period and there are only demands to do it all NOW, you will lose.

Thus, I’m backing Romney and believe the anti-Romney folks are losers.

That part is true. It will be Huntsman, or someone further to the Left. The Party elites will figure they shouldn’t have gone so far to the right of McCain by choosing Romney. They should have gone left of McCain.

You guys really do not grasp how politics really works. It doesn’t work the way you think is should or dream it would. When the guy furthest to the Left wins, all politicians tack further toward the Left, not to the Right, and voters in the squishy middle figure that’s the way that must be correct, so they adjust their worldviews accordingly.

fadetogray on June 5, 2012 at 3:27 PM

Mittens is a liberal, so is McCain, so is Boehner, so is McConnell. None of them is to the right of the other. Electing Mittens won’t move the country towards conservatism, so why bother pretending it will?

Better to not vote at all. Politicians only care about the votes they don’t already have by default. If the GOP loses the conservative voting block, they will either move right or die off like the Whigs, and be replaced. Which is the best possible option at this point, anyway.

A vote for Mittens is a vote to continue moving the GOP in the wrong direction and the Country with it.

One of the few consolations in that scenario, if there are any, is that Romney then won’t be the face of the future for the republican party.

That part is true. It will be Huntsman, or someone further to the Left. The Party elites will figure they shouldn’t have gone so far to the right of McCain by choosing Romney. They should have gone left of McCain.

You guys really do not grasp how politics really works. It doesn’t work the way you think is should or dream it would. When the guy furthest to the Left wins, all politicians tack further toward the Left, not to the Right, and voters in the squishy middle figure that’s the way that must be correct, so they adjust their worldviews accordingly.

More and more it’s looking like the republicans will be snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. With Romney, they’ll screw things up as usual and we’re destined to lose this one even against a disaster like Obama. One of the few consolations in that scenario, if there are any, is that Romney then won’t be the face of the future for the republican party. That is definitely a good thing because even if by a freak of nature he were to win, he’s already showing lousy judgment and a preview of what kind of “leader” he’d be. Plus there are a gaggle of Romneys waiting in the wings to continue that dynasty. Blech! Is it too late to dump this guy and start from scratch? Etch-a-sketch him and start with a clean slate. This is too important and scary for politics-as-usual.

mozalf on June 5, 2012 at 9:03 AM

You speaketh the truth!
NOMITTNOBAMA 2012! America Deserves Much, Much Better!

You must STILL VOTE for WILLARD in November!!

LOL

Bunch o fools

I must say that as I read through the comments on this thread, that I am happy to see that not all of the conservatives have left this site yet or given in to the Mitten’s brigade.

Buckshot Bill on June 5, 2012 at 1:47 PM

Amen my brother…..but we’re rapidly becoming an endangered species here.

Timmy reporting from a sandbox in CA – Your Elementary School News Source for The Weekly Reader (the uncensored version).

Buy Danish on June 5, 2012 at 1:29 PM

awwww…..mad again sugar pants?

are you really mad or just “Moderately” mad?

Tim_CA on June 5, 2012 at 10:57 AM

Timmy reporting from a sandbox in CA – Your Elementary School News Source for The Weekly Reader (the uncensored version).

You are not acting like adults. You behave exactly like irresponsible children who can’t get their way. If you did not get the toy you wanted, you’ll try your best to break the one you got. That’ll who “them!”
fadetogray on June 5, 2012 at 9:20 AM

I guess the rule is that anyone who thinks Romney and Obama are not just the same is a “mittbot.” Doesn’t matter if you opposed Romney in the primaries. You’re still a mittbot.

I am sorry. I insulted children and jackasses. I apologize to them. Neither of them is nearly as brainless and wilfully irresponsible as the phony “conservatives” who would let Obama have four more years to finish the job he’s been doing on us completely free of the constraint of having to win reelection.

fadetogray on June 5, 2012 at 1:06 PM

Flail about much?

Hot

Gas

“Stand with us in the mushy middle”

and

Lean Sideways

I am sorry. I insulted children and jackasses. I apologize to them. Neither of them is nearly as brainless and wilfully irresponsible as the phony “conservatives” who would let Obama have four more years to finish the job he’s been doing on us completely free of the constraint of having to win reelection.

As someone who greatly admires Palin
bluegill on June 5, 2012 at 8:26 AM