Quotes of the day
posted at 9:31 pm on June 2, 2012 by Allahpundit
Gov. Cuomo is sweet on Mayor Bloomberg’s plan to ban mega-sized sugary drinks.
Cuomo yesterday effectively endorsed Bloomberg’s push to limit the selling of sweetened drinks larger than 16 ounces, likely dooming any chances of overriding the proposal at the state level.
“Obesity is a major problem that we desperately need to address,” Cuomo said on former Gov. David Paterson’s WOR-AM radio show. “So I don’t see that this can do any harm.”
Are bacon-cheeseburgers next? As a practical matter, no. Sodas are an easy target because there is nothing, nothing, nutritionally redeeming about them. But might there come a day when the New York City Department of Health mandates that burgers be limited to, say, four ounces? Indeed there might. And why not? Eight- and ten-ounce burgers are sick things.
We have a health crisis in this country. A country with half of its adults living in a condition of obesity is a sick country, quite literally, spending probably not billions but trillions on the associated illnesses and maladies. Under such conditions, the state has every right to take action on behalf of the common good. We once had an epidemic of traffic deaths. We didn’t ban driving. But we came up with a device that is a minor inconvenience at most. And so seatbelts became mandatory, and now the epidemic has receded. A few people still foolishly oppose seatbelts. But most of us accept them and understand that whatever little dollop of our freedom is taken away as we latch up is more than countervailed by the practical upside.
One day, if the country comes to its senses, we’ll reverse the obesity trend and, just as we now chuckle at the prevalence of smoking on Mad Men, we’ll say, “Can you believe people used to peddle this treacle in 64-ounce doses?” We will not only have done something about obesity. We’ll have won an important victory over Libertarianism Gone Wild, a far bigger threat to society than even Sunkist Orange.
The proposed ban may not be the best way of dealing with the obesity problem, or the role that sugared drinks play in it. It may not work at all — actually, given the rather large loopholes it will contain, it may backfire. But at some point someone had to step in and do something, and for a number of reasons, that someone basically had to be Mike Bloomberg…
The man deserves the reputation for incorrigible nannyism that he’s gotten during his time in office. His administration has been marked by one crusade after another: against smoking, against salt, against trans fats, against soda. But those crusades have, for the most part—the one against salt is the notable exception—been remarkably successful. The trans-fat ban was a model for the nation. The anti-smoking campaign, which made cigarettes more expensive, more inconvenient, and more stigmatized, has been incredibly successful—it may be the most successful anti-drug program in history…
The federal government would never be able to do anything like this right now, not in this political climate, and not with this Congress. The state legislature tried and failed. But Bloomberg can. Worst-case scenario, it’s a miserable failure, it tarnishes his legacy, and his successor overturns it on day one in office. But the best-case scenario isn’t that difficult to achieve: the ban doesn’t have to work that well, or really at all, to be a success. Even if the ban does nothing but shift the discussion about what the government can do to protect the health of its citizens in his favor, Nanny Bloomberg will have won, and we’ll be better off for it.
Here’s what’s really going to happen…
The price of a 16 oz cup will increase to somewhere between the current 16 oz price and the gigantic size (whatever that may be at a given restaurant).
Some people who used to drink what Bloomberg considers to be an appropriate amount of soda will simply stop buying soda when the price goes up; some will consume exactly the same amount of soda as before, but pay more for that choice; and some will drink more soda, because they feel they’ve paid for it and need to derive more value from their free refill purchase. If you view increased soda consumption as “bad,” then this is a net “bad” for the population of people Bloomberg believes consume soda in appropriate amounts. It does the opposite for this group by encouraging some percentage of those making “healthy” choices to consume more soda.
Now for the population that Bloomberg is trying to affect: Those who drink massive quantities of soda will still be able to do so via free refills by making more trips to the soda fountain. It will just cost them less to do so.
In essence, what this ban will do is cause those who make “healthy” soda choices subsidize those who make “unhealthy” soda choices.
[T]his ban isn’t targeted at those responsible for government healthcare spending. It will be in place at every restaurant, deli, sporting event, and food cart. This will affect every person interested in purchasing soda who resides in — or for that matter, even visits — New York City, whether the city pays for their healthcare or not. What does a tourist from Canada or Virginia have to do with New York’s obesity costs? This law will only heighten animosity toward government’s vital role in promoting healthier lifestyle habits…
His administration was able to force eateries to put calorie counts on menus. While the measure was approved — it hasn’t proven effective. Preliminary research has been inconclusive and unable to show that consumers are making healthier choices as a result; and even worse, according to one study, consumers purchased 106 more calories when they were listed on menus…
Furthermore, Mr. Bloomberg hasn’t produced any research showing the majority of soda consumed is done so outside the home, where the ban actually is in place. There’s a reason for that — he can’t. More than half of one’s soda consumption occurs at home, according to the CDC. Soda consumed at home is more likely to be purchased from grocery stores and bodegas (corner stores), which will be exempt from the soda ban. So how much of an impact can this soda ban really have on an individual’s daily caloric intake or overall health? Not much.
But there’s an even darker side to bans. They have a socio-economic impact, by which I mean, some people are more affected by bans than others. Bans widen the divide between the rich, who can find a way around them, and the poor, who perhaps cannot. And while Bloomberg’s tactics are obviously part of what people dub a “nanny state” ideology, in which he’s telling us what to do, he’s telling some people what to do more than others. Rich people, among whom one is billionaire Bloomberg himself, are not going to be impacted by a soda ban the same way poor New Yorkers are — if the wealthy prefer huge bottles of soda, they’ll have no trouble continuing to find them. And the problem that Bloomberg’s trying to “fix” — obesity — is, according to the stats and research, a “poor” problem, not a rich one. This makes Bloomberg’s move seem ever the more paternalistic. A class of people whom he’s judged unable to make the proper decision for themselves is now being told what to do, by someone who knows better…
But none of these bans really serve to get to the point, anyway. If we’re to talk of equity, we should also ask why healthy, particularly organic, fresh food costs more than packaged, processed food, why lean turkey or chicken is priced higher than the bad, fatty cuts, or why in some cases the cost of milk is greater than the cost of soda. It seems that a better way to promote health to all would by making it easier for everyone to get healthy, good food—not by “outlawing” the bad stuff, or soda, which beverage industry folks say isn’t the cause of the problem in the first place, citing reports that say sugared drink consumption has decreased while our obesity issues keep increasing.
If you tax one sugared product, you make the targeted products less attractive — but you also make any number of other sugared products relatively more attractive. If theaters are limited on the size drinks they can sell, they can offer free refills, and throw in “free” candy bars with their large-soda purchases, or offer a buy-one-get-one-free deal. With narrowly targeted bans, people can still get their sugar fixes from a multitude of other venues and sources that are not subject to bans (grocery and convenience stores are not covered). Twinkies, anyone?…
Second, in the case of tobacco bans and taxes, the bans and taxes could be narrowly targeted and were, and are, endured solely by the offending parties—smokers. Soda (and other fat) bans and taxes will certainly hit the supposed offending parties, but they will also be paid by people who work hard–and suffer real costs—to remain trim. They can also have unintended and unanticipated consequences. Ironically, as research has shown, higher cigarette taxes have contributed to the country’s weight gain by causing reformed smokers and never-smokers to eat more than they otherwise would have.
Instead of narrowly focused or blanket bans and taxes on identified categories of sugared and fatty foods, a far more direct and effective policy course would simply be to hold heavy people fully responsible for the costs of their excess poundage. These weight-related costs show up in lost productivity and higher medical costs and in their impositions on others’ space in the tight quarters of planes and buses. Having heavy people bear the full costs of their excess poundage (for example, through lower wages and higher insurance premiums and air fares) will surely be far more freedom preserving and effective in curbing obesity than soda bans and taxes.
“Hey look, I gave up pop for Lent three years ago,” [Rep. Paul] Ryan said. “I haven’t had one since. but that’s up to you, do what you want with your life. We believe in economic freedom, we believe in individual freedom, and so we don’t want a nanny state. We don’t want a government micromanaging your life.
“And we don’t want a government micromanaging our financial services sector, our energy sector, our healthcare sector because what you end up with that is, you end up with crony capitalism, you end up with corporate welfare. You end up with having big business and big government joined in a common cause to erect barriers to entry against entrepreneurs, against businesses, against families and that doesn’t work. If you want to see how that movie ends, look at Europe and we don’t want to go down that path.”
Pointing to New Yorkers’ increased life expectancy, [Bloomberg] said, “Just before you die, remember you got three extra years.”
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It’s not so amazing as they must have concluded that the DHS and FBI were either incompetent or on their side.
VorDaj on April 24, 2013 at 4:03 PM
Party?
Is that what jihadis call it now?
Lots of noise, lots of fun, lots of excitement…
Yeah, party on, dude.
coldwarrior on April 24, 2013 at 4:04 PM
Party…sans alcohol, of course!
steebo77 on April 24, 2013 at 4:04 PM
+1 vordaj
cmsinaz on April 24, 2013 at 4:06 PM
There are a few libs defending these dudes…they would have been OK in NYC me thinks
cmsinaz on April 24, 2013 at 4:07 PM
And that pressure cooker they had was so they could do a quick Boston Boiled Dinner, in case they got hungry?
coldwarrior on April 24, 2013 at 4:07 PM
I don’t care about the personal lives of mass murderers. Who does, except groupies such as of Charles Manson, Ted Bundy, or Richard Ramirez. The blame lays completely at their feet, and Islam’s.
Dan Quayle had his moments. Such as when he answered his own rhetorical question:
“Who is responsible for crime? Criminals.”
Paul-Cincy on April 24, 2013 at 4:07 PM
Like after they “partied” at the Marathon..?
d1carter on April 24, 2013 at 4:08 PM
I believe one of the dirtbags in the WTC bombing in 1993 actually went back to the truck rental company to get his deposit back.
For the very truck they loaded with explosives and blew up.
Let’s not underestimate their stupidity.
SteveMG on April 24, 2013 at 4:08 PM
The administration and their enablers, from the left to the right, are all incompetent.
The land is scroomed.
Schadenfreude on April 24, 2013 at 4:08 PM
Maybe someone should have told them that party favors in the USA are loaded with confetti, not bbs and ball bearings.
/s
hawkeye54 on April 24, 2013 at 4:08 PM
Good one. it would be interesting what’s their definition of ‘partying’, since Bumpspeed gave up alcohool a while ago in his quest to become a good Muslim, as per one of his many vocal ants/uncles.
jimver on April 24, 2013 at 4:09 PM
Mwha-ha. Sure.
With numerous IED’s in tow.
All of a sudden the word of a terrorist is the golden truth.
How gullible do they think people are?
Marcus Traianus on April 24, 2013 at 4:09 PM
Obama is their brother
Futile is all other
Schadenfreude on April 24, 2013 at 4:09 PM
That party would have been a blast!
aquaviva on April 24, 2013 at 4:09 PM
.
Hey, you gotta fight, for your right to parrrrrty.
LincolntheHun on April 24, 2013 at 4:10 PM
It has been for some time now. This is just a taste of what’s to come, I fear.
Jihadis will party on.
hawkeye54 on April 24, 2013 at 4:10 PM
Allahu Akbar
Schadenfreude on April 24, 2013 at 4:10 PM
You limited to just one.
Schadenfreude on April 24, 2013 at 4:11 PM
BTW. The dead-brother alleged to be a “devout” Muslim who swore off alcohol and women. So what kind of “partying” did they plan on doing?
Marcus Traianus on April 24, 2013 at 4:11 PM
After the attack? I’m sure the video of their act would have been the highlight. Cool special effects.
/s
hawkeye54 on April 24, 2013 at 4:12 PM
The lack of foresight and planning is directly attributable to their scholarship free ride to some of the “leading” schools. No wonder Matt Damon is as bright as these two.
AH_C on April 24, 2013 at 4:12 PM
Not Disneyland?
Lily on April 24, 2013 at 4:12 PM
If these two knuckleheads could be considered enemy combatants, can we now claim the same for Ayers and Dorhn and hold them indefinitely?
Tater Salad on April 24, 2013 at 4:13 PM
Maybe, party means blowing up shite and people?
Why go to the trouble of hijacking the suv and returning to the green car and transferring their explosives to the suv?
Blake on April 24, 2013 at 4:13 PM
Hmmmm. How are Chechen – Goat relations these days?
hawkeye54 on April 24, 2013 at 4:13 PM
Moonlight Bunny Ranch have a branch in NYC?
coldwarrior on April 24, 2013 at 4:14 PM
Remember now, these ‘kids’ are considered innocent; or framed; or misguided; or radicalized by America; or…
Gee, what’s the excuse this hour?
Pair of really great guys, these brothers. The idea of partying after killing people without any semblance of conscience is the most damning statement these two could make about themselves. In the meantime, the cold-hearted Left doesn’t care about motive or the kind of people they are. All that matters is protecting Obama, protecting Islam, and finding a way to keep this last kid out of all the trouble he deserves.
Major sickness, all around.
Liam on April 24, 2013 at 4:14 PM
Bring
Your
Own
Bomb
Lily on April 24, 2013 at 4:15 PM
Have a blast there, possibly. To party? I think not. The epitome of the culture they hate, I’d think.
hawkeye54 on April 24, 2013 at 4:16 PM
I not sure they really qualify as enemy combatants; they’re not smart enough.
Tater Salad on April 24, 2013 at 4:16 PM
Blow-out, blow-up; what’s the difference to Islamokazis?
Steve Eggleston on April 24, 2013 at 4:16 PM
Had a date with Libfree and Sesquipedalian.
Guess they got stood up.
Jabberwock on April 24, 2013 at 4:17 PM
So they hated Americans but one married an American and a child with her. They got American welfare. They went American universities. And wanted to party in NYC? Exactly what about America did they hate?
terryannonline on April 24, 2013 at 4:17 PM
According to the Koran, if you blow up infidels, you’re allowed to drink and sodomize for a while.
sentinelrules on April 24, 2013 at 4:18 PM
I’m surprised they weren’t headed over to Philly to meet up with Kermit Gosnell for a serial murderer convention! I’m ashamed really, and what’s going on in the hospital with this terrorist..a pen and paper giving up all of his super secret info while law enforcement has to spend the day convalescing with him.. How embarrassing!
justonevictory on April 24, 2013 at 4:18 PM
Who wants to bet that MSNBC didn’t contact Ayers/Dorhn to come onto a show and give their expert terrorist opinion on these two?
Blake on April 24, 2013 at 4:18 PM
The constant flow of conflicting reports between Federal, Police, and DHS,and the Media is making question that anyone knows what they heck they are doing.
What’s up with this triple murder thing, How can Suspect1 not have been a primary suspect in this case. That was a religious moral message. I’m beginning to think he was sparred prosecution and mentored on purpose and I’m not one to be a conspiracy believer but nothing in this investigation is consistent or makes any sense at all. It seems to be made up as we go along.
Egfrow on April 24, 2013 at 4:19 PM
Maybe, Tbump had to babysit…
Blake on April 24, 2013 at 4:20 PM
It’s also possible he is yanking everyone’s chain. He’s in a prefect place to sit back and enjoy the show and if he is seeing any news he knows he is headed for some sort of folk hero status with the left and MSM. He’ll end up another book writing a-hole sitting in jail with hordes of followers demanding his release because he is nothing more than a political prisoner.
Dr. Frank Enstine on April 24, 2013 at 4:20 PM
Follow up question…
WHO did they plan to party with in New York?
Did they have connections with a jihad network in New York that could help them fly out of the country?
wren on April 24, 2013 at 4:22 PM
Well, duh. If not for that six feet of dirt over the top of him, Sam Adams would have been right on top of finding these guys…..
GWB on April 24, 2013 at 4:22 PM
Free Mumia!!!
Free Dzhokhar!!
Money to be made in the T-Shirt market.
coldwarrior on April 24, 2013 at 4:22 PM
i think that’s a large part of it. The older brother was already flagged, but he was able to travel to Russia and back, no problem. If it turns out that the older brother did in fact kill those three other kids in the unsolved murders, then he probably thinks he can get away with anything.
Weight of Glory on April 24, 2013 at 4:22 PM
From what I’ve seen, all the indications are that they really thought they were going to get away with it. They seem not to have grasped the ubiquity of surveillance cameras in this day and age.
That is exactly what happened. And not only that, he actually called the rental company ahead of time and told them that the truck had been stolen and that he would be coming back in to get his deposit. As a result, he walked right into the arms of the FBI. Most of these terrorists… well, let’s just say that NASA isn’t missing any rocket scientists.
Hayabusa on April 24, 2013 at 4:23 PM
Anything, except his little brother’s p-poor driving skills.
coldwarrior on April 24, 2013 at 4:24 PM
Americans. Ignore the dimwit useful American one married. What better way to infiltrate the enemies land than by taking one of the enemies own and procreating.
hawkeye54 on April 24, 2013 at 4:24 PM
Their instructions were :
1. Place bombs in Boston
2. Get to NYC
3. Go to Ground Zero mosk
4. Claim your 36 virgins
burrata on April 24, 2013 at 4:26 PM
Yes, for doing your good duty, a little temporary indulgence in celebration can be forgiven.
/s
hawkeye54 on April 24, 2013 at 4:26 PM
Well, most criminals are not the biggest bulbs
in the lamp.
redguy on April 24, 2013 at 4:28 PM
Yep, poor misunderstood yutes. Maybe they were going to look up Kathy Boudoin and celebrate with her.
slickwillie2001 on April 24, 2013 at 4:28 PM
There’s a history of these upper class girls marrying the dregs of society…this Russell girl marries Tsarnaev…Stanley married Barrack, Sr….trying to show how progressive they were…or shove a finger into mummy and daddy’s eye.
Useful idiots, all the same.
coldwarrior on April 24, 2013 at 4:29 PM
“all who hate me love death”
- Proverbs 8:36b
***********
4 dead and 180 wounded, many who lost limbs in a horrific manner, many with lifetime psychological scars. Haven’t heard much from the LSM on this – they are blood-thirsty when it comes to anything Christian.
williampeck1958 on April 24, 2013 at 4:29 PM
I have doubt they were getting off on the mayhem they caused. Remember this when they start calling to spare the life of the little shite.
Blake on April 24, 2013 at 4:31 PM
Yeah, I think it’s just an euphemism. Tamerlan wasn’t a partier, was he, or was that strict Muslim sensibility just for show?
Dusty on April 24, 2013 at 4:31 PM
Remember, they don’t view women as anything but possessions. He didn’t marry an American, he took a woman (nationality irrelevant) for his wife.
Yes. Yet again, the press is treating everything said by the guy with not a bit of skepticism. Admittedly, crooks who are well and truly caught without any hope of escape do often spill everything. But, why would you assume he’s not lying about this stuff?
GWB on April 24, 2013 at 4:31 PM
“The USA has the stupidest administration and enablers, evah” — gleeful Rest of the World, especially muzzies
Schadenfreude on April 24, 2013 at 4:32 PM
NO, he didn’t. She, the biggest fool in the Boston drama, submitted. I hope she burns in Hell, with him.
Schadenfreude on April 24, 2013 at 4:33 PM
Ha!
Weight of Glory on April 24, 2013 at 4:33 PM
Let us be honest with ourselves. Until we invade Russia or some other Muslim country, most conservatives wont be happy with the investigations. They will perpetually keep asking questions.
HotAirLib on April 24, 2013 at 4:33 PM
by the end of this the msm will turn them into misunderstood youth who were corrupted by our hedonistic society, they didn’t have glitter so they used pressure cookers instead.
renalin on April 24, 2013 at 4:34 PM
HAL is as inept as always.
“What Benghazi? Let it go. It’s old news already” — HAL
“What, Boston? That was last week, rubes” — HAL
Schadenfreude on April 24, 2013 at 4:35 PM
I’m of the opinion that their original target was the NYC marathon, which got cancelled as a result of Hurricane Sandy.
CurtZHP on April 24, 2013 at 4:35 PM
You don’t think he took her? I guarantee that is how he viewed it. Oh, I don’t disagree that she submitted, but I’m positive he saw it as him luring her in and capturing her.
GWB on April 24, 2013 at 4:36 PM
I am thinking that the little worm is just jacking with the investigators. Seriously, what dumb a would take his word for anything?
Fortunately, I understand that his interrogators are taking what he says with a grain of salt and plan to verify everything. That is what you do when you are dealing with a pathological liar & sociopath.
Texene on April 24, 2013 at 4:36 PM
Black Hat, White Hat and their friends liked to roll in BMW’s & Benz’s… and, now we learn, apparently party in Manhattan.
mjbrooks3 on April 24, 2013 at 4:36 PM
muslim-style. These are people who celebrate a wedding by aimlessly shooting guns in the air (somehow “part of their culture” even though it’s with guns that they didn’t even have access to until very recently). In the land of the infidel this sort of islamic party easily moves from firing guns in the air to blowing up civilians. It’s “part of their culture” – in fact, it’s one of the foundations of islam. The pressure-cooker party, of course, is a more modern twist.
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on April 24, 2013 at 4:36 PM
O/T I wish this could stand longer than five minutes before it’s appealed.
Cindy Munford on April 24, 2013 at 4:37 PM
She is a big fool. I can’t wait to see the American feminists defend her.
Schadenfreude on April 24, 2013 at 4:38 PM
In some cases, mummy and daddy themselves are supportive and tolerant. Progressive and devoted to diversity themselves, they are and proud of their daughter’s choice in a marriage partner from another diverse culture, no matter how damaging it might be ultimately.
hawkeye54 on April 24, 2013 at 4:38 PM
LOL. What little you know wouldn’t even fill a post-it.
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on April 24, 2013 at 4:39 PM
Only explanation that makes any sense.
Parts of the Arab world think the west is weak and very dumb, though, and these guys were young.
IlikedAUH2O on April 24, 2013 at 4:39 PM
It didn’t even stand one min. The same judge put it all on hold because “not enough evidence one way or another” or some such.
However, judge did state that Obama has no right to hold up deportations, not that any such will deter Nappi and Sir Golfsalot. The laws are just for you.
Schadenfreude on April 24, 2013 at 4:39 PM
Forget surveillance cameras. They were at the finish line of the friggin Boston Marathon. Most of the good photos and videos weren’t from any surveillance cameras but from spectators and media coverage.
muslim attack plans are generally geared towards suicide operations because they’re usually too inept and incompetent to get away with anything else. They don’t have much flexibility in that planning, which pervades pretty much everything they do.
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on April 24, 2013 at 4:42 PM
Russia is not Muslim.
Who is “us” ? Not me.
We have most of our questions answered. It’s called both evidence and admission.
People looking for unicorns ( your side ) are the ones asking questions and seeking out alternative truths.
Nobody is suggesting an invasion of ANY country over this.
We are asking that militant Islam be viewed with the seriousness it deserves.
Jabberwock on April 24, 2013 at 4:44 PM
Which basically means that barky committed a clearly impeachable (and prosecutable) act, as if we all didn’t know this the minute the Indonesian pulled his Sukarno impression yet once again.
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on April 24, 2013 at 4:45 PM
MSNBC AND THE LEFT MEDIA is keeping everything very confused until it is old news. Just angry kids like Virginia Tech or Colorado…
IlikedAUH2O on April 24, 2013 at 4:46 PM
I still believe the wife was involved. Even if she wasn’t part of the plant, she has been part of that American hating family for years now. Who in their right mind could listen to that shite unless they were like minded?
Blake on April 24, 2013 at 4:46 PM
Priceless.
bobs1196 on April 24, 2013 at 4:47 PM
He/She/It is just trolling.
Blake on April 24, 2013 at 4:48 PM
Good Rhyme.
Lame line.
(And please don’t try to write poetry…see where that got Amanda Palmer? A waste of your rhetorical gifts…)
verbaluce on April 24, 2013 at 4:49 PM
Of course, we take his BS at face value?
Way to go, FBI.
PattyJ on April 24, 2013 at 4:49 PM
Well, maybe blowing up Americans is the way terrorists party.
The Rogue Tomato on April 24, 2013 at 4:50 PM
As with Lanza, Holmes, Loughner, etc., the evil of these stone-killer sociopaths is that they relish their place in the spotlight. Don’t you think that Junior White Hat isn’t enjoying all of the attention he is getting? He is weaving “narratives” even better than the JournOLists can crank out.
Put him in isolation.
onlineanalyst on April 24, 2013 at 4:50 PM
Well certainly the focus has been greater there these last few years than before. That’s what is a bit odd about all the Obama hating on this particular issue. Seems his drone program just can’t seem to make the strange bedfellows you think it would.
verbaluce on April 24, 2013 at 4:53 PM
I read today that his bro had The Fall of the Roman Empire on his Amazon wishlist, so maybe they were emulating Caligula.
Buy Danish on April 24, 2013 at 4:54 PM
Ignore John ‘HotAirLib’ Blutarski, he’s on a roll.
Dusty on April 24, 2013 at 4:56 PM
The FBI is not allowed to consider violent Islam in the context of any investigation it does regarding potential threats.
I believe this is a significant reason the FBI blew it’s initial looksee at the speedbump.
Jabberwock on April 24, 2013 at 4:58 PM
Like bologna?
VegasRick on April 24, 2013 at 4:59 PM
verbaluce on April 24, 2013 at 4:53 PM
You must have missed his idiotic rambling on how wonderful Islam is, and Jihad too…yesterday. He is their brother, none other.
Schadenfreude on April 24, 2013 at 5:02 PM
Welfare state jizya: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/346555/paying-jizya-welfare-terrorist-tamerlan-tsarnaevhttpwwwmeforumorg3468us-aid-egypt
onlineanalyst on April 24, 2013 at 5:05 PM
A terrorist’s definition of a party is very different from the normal person’s party. I can’t imagine how much damage they could have done if they got to NYC.
mixplix on April 24, 2013 at 5:06 PM
So, you think that everyone should be like you and yours and just shut up and not question anything that the state sees fit to tell you? Isn’t that a somewhat…ovine…attitude, hal?
Why don’t you just shut up and sing, you stupid b!tch.
Solaratov on April 24, 2013 at 5:11 PM
Timothy McVeigh was stopped 90 minutes after the Oklahoma City bombing for driving around without a license plate and was arrested for unlawful possession of a gun 90 minutes after the Oklahoma City bombing. Another rocket scientist taken off the streets.
xblade on April 24, 2013 at 5:17 PM
Russia is not a “Muslim Country”. Gosh, too bad the bros weren’t Russian Orthodox so we could finally find a mass-casualty terrorist act committed by Christians in the name of Christ.
Buy Danish on April 24, 2013 at 5:18 PM
Times Square…. where all the real New Yorkers go!
Tourist trap.
Seven Seas on April 24, 2013 at 5:21 PM
Tsarnaev isn’t even trying to be believable.
mbs on April 24, 2013 at 5:25 PM
Sure he did…he rambled on about how wonderful Jihad is. /sarc
Gawwd. (or, Allaww.)
A cpl of radicalized murderous yahoos –
I don’t share your panic or your sweeping embellishments.
I see they had some successful explosions, but don’t grant them successful worldwide reverberations.
verbaluce on April 24, 2013 at 5:28 PM
He partied in Cambridge after he and his bro detonated a few bombs, so I don’t find this unbelievable.
Buy Danish on April 24, 2013 at 5:30 PM
Which FBI manual do you get this from?
verbaluce on April 24, 2013 at 5:32 PM
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