Obama to Jewish leaders: I probably know more about Judaism than any other president

posted at 4:01 pm on May 30, 2012 by Allahpundit

Via the Standard. He missed the day at school when they explained who ran the “Polish death camps,” but other than that, he’s rock solid.

Earlier Tuesday afternoon, Obama and White House Chief of Staff Jack Lew met about 20 Conservative Jewish community leaders, thanking them for the work they do to improve communities around the country and discussed their shared commitment to rebuilding the U.S. economy…

“Rather than describe how deeply I care about Israel, I want to be blunt about how we got here,” Obama said, reminding his guests that he had so many Jewish [associates] in Chicago at the beginning of his political career that he was accused of being a puppet of the Israel lobby…

Obama also stressed he probably knows about Judaism more than any other president, because he read about it – and wondered how come no one asks Speaker of the House of Representatives John Boehner or Senate minority leader Mitch McConnel about their support to Israel.

They don’t call him “the first Jewish president” for nothing. Well, New York Magazine calls him that. No one else. But still. Another fun detail, also via the Standard:

Now, he said, the Republicans are trying to portray him as not being supportive of Israel by stressing the fact that his father was Muslim and he has a Muslim name, as well as by claiming that he had been overly aggressive in pushing Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to promote the peace process with the Palestinians.

Forget his some-of-my-best-friends-are-Jewish nonsense. The better evidence that he cares is the fact that he called this meeting to pander even though Jewish voters are a cinch to vote overwhelmingly for him. He won 78 percent of their vote in 2008 and, according to a poll taken in early March, is on pace to approach that number in November. (“We show no slippage in Jewish support for President Obama.”) Not that that’ll prevent the inevitable quadrennial series of “Is this the year the GOP competes for the Jewish vote?” analyses this summer, but still.

The most revealing bit here is his reflexive need to inflate his own reputation at the expense of other presidents’. He could have said that he’s read widely about Jewish history and culture and left it at that, but this is a guy who’s into measuring himself against his predecessors when he isn’t busy exploiting their glory to tout his own “achievements.” Why he thinks he’s read more on this subject than any president, including/especially the last two Democrats who preceded him in office, I have no idea.


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I wonder how many Jews does Carney know??…

jimver on May 30, 2012 at 6:48 PM

Hitler knew a lot about Judaism too.

VorDaj on May 30, 2012 at 6:48 PM

Obama is still at the junior high school stage.
Socratease on May 30, 2012 at 4:12 PM

Nah. He’s one tiny step above that. Look up the term “sophamoric” in the dictionary. Most of them don’t have Obama’s picture next to the word, but they should.

logis on May 30, 2012 at 6:49 PM

Has his staff placed him in a scene depicting Moses’ receipt of the Ten Commandments? Well, I guess he sees himself handing Moses the Ten Commandments.

Philly on May 30, 2012 at 6:50 PM

Well he also supposedly knows more about the constitution then anyone other than the ppl who wrote it, and look what he’s been trying to do to it, maybe that explains what he’s been doing to Israel ……..

angrymike on May 30, 2012 at 6:51 PM

Amazing the stuff they taught in the Madrasa back in the day…

chewydog on May 30, 2012 at 6:45 PM

In between “Dogs, the other white meat” lunch time lessons

riddick on May 30, 2012 at 6:55 PM

Time for a twitter hashtag game I probably know more about Judaism than

Chris Matthews and Paul Krugman do about Jeopardy?

Sherrytex on May 30, 2012 at 6:57 PM

I wonder how many Jews does Carney know??…

jimver on May 30, 2012 at 6:48 PM

Much better question I have been asking for a long time now, How could ANY Jew even contemplate working with/for Manchurian?

riddick on May 30, 2012 at 6:57 PM

Don’t underestimate a moslem when he says he knows a lot about Judaism because he “read” about it.

Because, he has. In the Q’ran.

Take everything he says literally, because he means it.

Key West Reader on May 30, 2012 at 7:04 PM

Obama also stressed he probably knows about Judaism more than any other president, because he read about it – and wondered how come no one asks Speaker of the House of Representatives John Boehner or Senate minority leader Mitch McConnel about their support to Israel.

Seriously, Barry? What’s the Hebrew phrase for “You must be joking”?

Buy Danish on May 30, 2012 at 7:08 PM

Now, he said, the Republicans are trying to portray him as not being supportive of Israel by stressing the fact that his father was Muslim and he has a Muslim name,

Ra-a-a-a-a-a-cists!

Sorry bubula, but you’re the biggest goy on earth.

MJBrutus on May 30, 2012 at 7:09 PM

I wonder how many Jews does Carney know??…

jimver on May 30, 2012 at 6:48 PM

Much better question I have been asking for a long time now, How could ANY Jew even contemplate working with/for Manchurian?

riddick on May 30, 2012 at 6:57 PM

Well, looks like an old dream of a particular segment of the Jewish kind (some in the the so-called Jewish intelligentsia, the academic types, etc) have always been obsessed with equality (of results, not of opportunity, to be sure) and other leftist nonsense, actually come think about, there were a lot of Jewish individuals involved at militant level in promoting socialism/communism in Eastern Europe and Russia…. Looks like some obsessions die hard and those kind still have a lot of followers in the US among their jewish brethern…I never considered those real Jews though, just a bunch of internationalist, cosmopolitan, socialist-lover frauds…Actually you might know a thing or two about their involvement in the socialist regimes in eastern europe, if I am not mistaken you mentioned a couple of times that you are originally from Rusia…goold old Lenin was one of them too, no?

jimver on May 30, 2012 at 7:19 PM

If Obama keeps this up, Romney may win by default.(5 months to go……)

flackcatcher on May 30, 2012 at 7:20 PM

…all I have to do is look at the last few years to know he’s full of el toro poopoo…

Bob’s Kid on May 30, 2012 at 4:06 PM

Hahahhaa…

Thanks, I got a very big LOL from reading that.

Now back to reading the comments.

Lourdes on May 30, 2012 at 7:22 PM

He is such an a..hat. Excuse my frustration.

GeorgieGirl9 on May 30, 2012 at 7:24 PM

Obama to Jewish leaders: I probably know more about Judaism than any other president

Obama also has candy. Do you want a ride?

I keep telling you all, don’t get in the boxcars.

Lourdes on May 30, 2012 at 7:26 PM

jimver on May 30, 2012 at 7:19 PM

Uh, no. Just like in Europe, Jews got their asses kicked from pillar to post in Mother Russia as well.

From Wikipedia:

A pogrom (Russian: погро́м) is a form of violent riot, a mob attack directed against a minority group, and characterized by killings and destruction of their homes and properties, businesses, and religious centers. It originally and still typically refers to 19th- and 20th-century attacks on Jews, particularly in the Russian Empire.[2][3]

I think that most Jews feel like underdogs. Through the 1950′s and beyond in many places in the US, Jews were locked out of many professions. My Grandad was an electrician. He had a degree and wanted to be an EE, but he couldn’t pass for goy. Because of history, including history as recent as that, Jews have tended to be supporters of the civil rights crowd.

MJBrutus on May 30, 2012 at 7:26 PM

Ahh, now he can add the first Jewish president to his resume.

LadyGator88 on May 30, 2012 at 7:28 PM

That’s it — the man is insane.

Dark Star on May 30, 2012 at 7:29 PM

“He won 78 percent of their vote in 2008 and, according to a poll taken in early March, is on pace to approach that number in November.”

I’m a proud 22 percenter.

Ira on May 30, 2012 at 7:32 PM

MidniteRambler on May 30, 2012 at 5:59 PM

jimver on May 30, 2012 at 6:46 PM

Kinda cool, thinking about it, to have a class of things where it is possible to know everything about them and understand nothing about them at the same time.

Axe on May 30, 2012 at 7:32 PM

He is such an a..hat. Excuse my frustration.

GeorgieGirl9 on May 30, 2012 at 7:24 PM

K. But you misspelled asshat. :)

Axe on May 30, 2012 at 7:35 PM

Earlier Tuesday afternoon, Obama and White House Chief of Staff Jack Lew met about 20 Conservative Jewish community leaders, thanking them for the work they do to improve communities around the country and discussed their shared commitment to rebuilding the U.S. economy…

Let me guess. Lew’s a Jew.

I realize that Obama compares himself to Christ (another Jew) but am I the only one that is offended? Just a few weeks ago Obama and HHS Secretary Sebelius were telling Catholic, Baptist, Lutheran, and other religious institutions to eff off over the concerns of a slut currently attending Georgetown Law and those of her ilk. Today he and his token Jew pander by lauding Jewish work in our communities. Pretty sad.

And by the way, Mr. President. The reason why nobody is asking Mr. Boehner or McConnel about their support of Israel is because
their support is clear. Yours is not and it isn’t because of your Muslim name.

Happy Nomad on May 30, 2012 at 7:38 PM

Oy vey.

ProfShadow on May 30, 2012 at 7:42 PM

Happy Nomad on May 30, 2012 at 7:38 PM

Sad to say, but Rahm and Axelrod are tribesmen as well.

And of course it’s because of his name. What other reason could anyone have to despise the man, if not for his complexion and his name? /s

MJBrutus on May 30, 2012 at 7:45 PM

A pogrom (Russian: погро́м) is a form of violent riot, a mob attack directed against a minority group, and characterized by killings and destruction of their homes and properties, businesses, and religious centers. It originally and still typically refers to 19th- and 20th-century attacks on Jews, particularly in the Russian Empire.[2][3]

When Tsar Nicolai sanctioned the last round of pogroms in 1905, with countless Jews ending up dead in the process, he pretty much sealed his fate as well as that of the rest of the world. Russian Jews were the first adopters of “Das Kapital” idiocy and regardless of the re-written history, they were the ones to organize and make the 1917 revolution happen, Lenin simply stepped in and usurped that from Trotsky and Co. All the revolutionary heroes were Jews, most also took assumed names for that reason.

Russians have not forgotten, to this day, and to be honest, I do not blame them, their entire world has changed overnight and to the worse, MUCH WORSE.

Were they forced to live below the Line of Settlement? Sure. Were they precluded from higher education? Sure. Were they discriminated against in every sense? Sure.

None of that justifies what they brought onto the world, we now face descendents of these morons in Manhattan, South Florida and Hollywood. As well as House and Senate, sadly, where they continue with their Marxist shit.

riddick on May 30, 2012 at 7:46 PM

jimver on May 30, 2012 at 7:19 PM

Uh, no. Just like in Europe, Jews got their asses kicked from pillar to post in Mother Russia as well.

From Wikipedia:

A pogrom (Russian: погро́м) is a form of violent riot, a mob attack directed against a minority group, and characterized by killings and destruction of their homes and properties, businesses, and religious centers. It originally and still typically refers to 19th- and 20th-century attacks on Jews, particularly in the Russian Empire.[2][3]

I think that most Jews feel like underdogs. Through the 1950′s and beyond in many places in the US, Jews were locked out of many professions. My Grandad was an electrician. He had a degree and wanted to be an EE, but he couldn’t pass for goy. Because of history, including history as recent as that, Jews have tended to be supporters of the civil rights crowd.

MJBrutus on May 30, 2012 at 7:26 PM

I know what a progrom is….the underdogs explanation is very plausible and it definitely made more sense in that context back then, and in that part of the world…I never thought though that the lessons from the failed socilalist regimes in EAstern Europe (and the suffering and human loss associated with it) would be entirely ignored by our contemporary Jews on this side of the pond and that they would replicate them at a different scale…you have to admit that it’s a bit mind boggling….

jimver on May 30, 2012 at 7:47 PM

Obama to Jewish leaders: I probably know more about Judaism than any other president

Gai kakhen afenyam

batterup on May 30, 2012 at 7:47 PM

riddick on May 30, 2012 at 7:46 PM

True enough, however, the revolutionaries weren’t typical. They were a lot like today’s Donkey intelligencia. Over-educated pinheads who fall in love with a utopian dream and are not shy about imposing their theories on the ignorant masses. The messy problems are never caused by their ideas or methods, but rather are the result of the herd not meekly assuming their place in the grand plan.

As for the great number of Jews, they continued to be persecuted for well over a century after the “Great Revolution.”

MJBrutus on May 30, 2012 at 7:53 PM

goold old Lenin was one of them too, no?

jimver on May 30, 2012 at 7:19 PM

Mostly tatar (or tartar to some, that’s where the sauce gets its name), with a little of Jewish blood in him as well (1/8th IIRC). Main reason (idiot) Jews worked with the idiot.

Tatars traditionally lived on Crimean Peninusula, and were “evacuated” overnight, LITERALLY IN ONE NIGHT, by Stalin to the “greater pastures” of Western Siberia.

Now they are all trying to reclaim Crimea and there are nationalist fights (and shootings/murders) pretty much every day, Ukrainians and Russians don’t wont to give up the land they own now and do not look kindly towards tatars’ want to return to their historical lands.

riddick on May 30, 2012 at 7:53 PM

jimver on May 30, 2012 at 7:47 PM

That’s why I mentioned my Grandad as a personal example of recent history right here in the US of A. A good film on the subject, “Gentleman’s Agreement” is about a man who pretends to be Jewish to gain insight in to their plight. He gets more than he bargained for.

MJBrutus on May 30, 2012 at 7:56 PM

I think that most Jews feel like underdogs. Through the 1950′s and beyond in many places in the US, Jews were locked out of many professions. My Grandad was an electrician. He had a degree and wanted to be an EE, but he couldn’t pass for goy. Because of history, including history as recent as that, Jews have tended to be supporters of the civil rights crowd.

MJBrutus on May 30, 2012 at 7:26 PM

There is some real truth in what you post but I don’t think that is the whole story. There have been Jews in our historically mostly Christian society from the time when we were still colonies and had a state church. IMO the term “separate culture” is much more descriptive than underdogs. Jewish communities thrived in America from the beginning even if they did not have equal opportunity.

One of the Civil War heroes from my state college was a Jew so clearly access to education was not an issue even in the 1860s. The limitations on Jews (and make no mistake I am not saying that prejudice isn’t part of our past and present) are more societal norms than laws that prohibited Jews from certain career fields. Where they lived and the laws that were established around that is another matter entirely.

I’m begining to ramble so I’ll end with this. Jews in America have not always been treated fairly but far better than the European experience. 1930s Germany, for example, when even 1/4 Jews were kicked out of civil service jobs. So, it is small wonder that historically they have been at the forefront of the Civil Rights movement. But- in 2012? Where is the reason to be so doggedly Democrat?

Happy Nomad on May 30, 2012 at 8:03 PM

riddick on May 30, 2012 at 7:53 PM

A little off topic, but the discussion has brought back some memories of my own childhood. No, this isn’t a sob story about discrimination, so read on :-)

I lived in a community of Jews, Italians, Germans and Irish mostly (OK, no Blacks or Hispanics to speak of and a few assorted Asians). We threw epithets, based on nationality, etc, casually and often in good humor. In fact, we could use the same word to express hatred or friendship and people rarely misunderstood which. Basically, I’m talking about life before PC. I miss that. People were less sensitive to mere words and had thicker skins. I think that it helped us to get along better than the PC world of today where a slur (even in jest) is a hate crime.

MJBrutus on May 30, 2012 at 8:08 PM

Rahm and Axelrod are tribesmen as well.

MJBrutus on May 30, 2012 at 7:45 PM

But they are in Chicago and no longer part of the administration.

I just find it fascinating that the guy with the Muslim name who changed US policy to support a return to the 1968 borders would even claim he’s the most Jew-friendly President ever.

Happy Nomad on May 30, 2012 at 8:11 PM

Happy Nomad on May 30, 2012 at 8:03 PM

Thanks for such a thoughtful post.

MJBrutus on May 30, 2012 at 8:12 PM

Happy Nomad on May 30, 2012 at 8:11 PM

Axelrod is still the WH political dude, no?

MJBrutus on May 30, 2012 at 8:12 PM

True enough, however, the revolutionaries weren’t typical. They were a lot like today’s Donkey intelligencia. Over-educated pinheads who fall in love with a utopian dream and are not shy about imposing their theories on the ignorant masses. The messy problems are never caused by their ideas or methods, but rather are the result of the herd not meekly assuming their place in the grand plan.

As for the great number of Jews, they continued to be persecuted for well over a century after the “Great Revolution.”

MJBrutus on May 30, 2012 at 7:53 PM

Well, they were the more educated slice of the Jewish community. So much for “education”, right?

Lenin knew how to stoke their ideas, but by and large they were the ones to organize and fund the revolution. As for their “utopian dreams”, they knew exactly what they were doing to the country, main reason most of them immediately changed their names to Slavic ones, so if anyone thinks they thought they were doing the right thing this is your answer.

Russians have a saying, “Такой умный, аж дурной”, “So smart he is stupid” (not sure of a better way to translate it).

As for persecution of them after 1917 in Russia, at first they were actually governing the place and for a few years, until about mid 1920s, the place did OK, private businesses, people working and making money. Its after Stalin got rid of both Lenin and Trotsky when things changed drastically and Jews were the most persecuted ethnicity in USSR (although Stalin did have a few in his “cabinet” of ministers). USSR passports had Paragraph 5 where your ethnicity was listed, so much for “open society” under communist utopia. One had to present a passport to be admitted to higher education schools and get a job, take a while guess how many of us had trouble in the “communist heaven”.

riddick on May 30, 2012 at 8:13 PM

He learned all about Judaism in Pakistan.

Grunt on May 30, 2012 at 8:16 PM

He learned all about Judaism in Pakistan.

Grunt on May 30, 2012 at 8:16 PM

They call it “Target Practice” there.

riddick on May 30, 2012 at 8:19 PM

riddick on May 30, 2012 at 8:13 PM

Thanks for the history lesson. Good stuff.

MJBrutus on May 30, 2012 at 8:20 PM

What doesn’t this man probably know?

Sherrytex on May 30, 2012 at 8:20 PM

Obama also stressed he probably knows about Judaism more than any other president, because he read about it….

Yeah, Barack Hussein Obama read about it alright. He read about Jews and Judaism in his muslim-run Indonesian school classes – Kill Jews 101, Hate Judaism Zionism 201, etc.

Judaism and Christianity are the bedrock of Western civilization, the one culture that has brought enlightenment and advancement to the rest of the world. With a little help from Hindus and Buddhists, we Jews and Christians can push back against the sewer-tide of the Satan-worshipping gutter religion that calls itself Islam.

CatchAll on May 30, 2012 at 8:21 PM

He won 78 percent of their vote in 2008 and, according to a poll taken in early March, is on pace to approach that number in November.

All the Jews of my acquaintance have been very smart people. I don’t get this. Don’t get it at all.

BTW, I haven’t heard anyone talking about Obama’s father or his name. He pulled the same crap in ’08.

SukieTawdry on May 30, 2012 at 8:25 PM

Are cow pies kosher? Because Obama keeps stepping in them.

de rigueur on May 30, 2012 at 8:27 PM

de rigueur on May 30, 2012 at 8:27 PM

We call them Prairie Knishes :-)

MJBrutus on May 30, 2012 at 8:28 PM

Rahm and Axelrod are tribesmen as well.

MJBrutus on May 30, 2012 at 7:45 PM

But they are in Chicago and no longer part of the administration…

Happy Nomad on May 30, 2012 at 8:11 PM

Well, no, Axelrod has been making himself quite an attachment to Obama’s re-election parade. Whether in and from Chicago or otherwise, Axelrod seems incapable of detaching himself from Obama. Unfortunately for Axelrod.

Lourdes on May 30, 2012 at 8:34 PM

Well, no, Axelrod has been making himself quite an attachment to Obama’s re-election parade. Whether in and from Chicago or otherwise, Axelrod seems incapable of detaching himself from Obama. Unfortunately for Axelrod.

Lourdes on May 30, 2012 at 8:34 PM

Wanna bet me 5 obama-dollars that Axelrod isn’t his “given” name? LOL!

/Just look at him. Heh

Key West Reader on May 30, 2012 at 8:49 PM

Coming soon from Team Obama’s truth squad: Pleas to email them with gefilte fishy rumors.

Buy Danish on May 30, 2012 at 9:40 PM

Wanna bet me 5 obama-dollars that Axelrod isn’t his “given” name? LOL!

/Just look at him. Heh

Key West Reader on May 30, 2012 at 8:49 PM

Thanks for noticing quite the obvious. Every time I see his ugly mug on TV my first thought is, Hitler Jr. Same ‘stash, hair and all. I don’t even call him any other name, his Papa would be proud to know their gene pull somehow survived…

And same as Soros, I am sure both are obvious Jew haters masquerading as Jews, too bad USA accepted so many after WWII on their say so. No way in hell Soros is a Jew who made his fortune on robbing Jews sent to the gas chambers. Impossible.

riddick on May 30, 2012 at 9:45 PM

pool above (not pull)

riddick on May 30, 2012 at 9:46 PM

All the Jews of my acquaintance have been very smart people. I don’t get this. Don’t get it at all.

SukieTawdry on May 30, 2012 at 8:25 PM

Been asked that question for years now by my non Jewish conservative friends (in CA of all places). And for years I could not really explain why until I went back to early 1900s in Russia, then it all clicked.

Too bad so many American Jews still believe in communism after so many years, education just seems like reading books to them without trying to understand what the books actually say or don’t say. And almost no one knows nor understands history. Very few Jews left in USSR after 1917 believed in communism and were avid anti-government and anti-communist proponents, main reason they were so prosecuted there.

On the other hand I can proudly say that we do have a decent number of us on the “right” side starting with Ayn Rand.

riddick on May 30, 2012 at 9:54 PM

Obama: You guys control the banks, right?

Basilsbest on May 30, 2012 at 9:59 PM

“This was the moment when the Red Sea began to part…”

DarthBrooks on May 30, 2012 at 11:05 PM

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 30, 2012 at 5:51 PM

Yes, I overstated. He was instrumental, but not the main reason. Apologies. However, my point was clearly that Truman was more informed of Israel than Obama. Disagree?

bhj on May 30, 2012 at 11:16 PM

I hope to have more to say on this later, but…

Hitler knew a lot about Judaism too.

VorDaj on May 30, 2012 at 6:48 PM

Ouch.

ChicagoJewishGuy on May 30, 2012 at 11:44 PM

Yes, I overstated. He was instrumental, but not the main reason. Apologies. However, my point was clearly that Truman was more informed of Israel than Obama. Disagree?

bhj on May 30, 2012 at 11:16 PM

As far as Manchurian and his video pal Khalidi are concerned, Israel should not be on the map. Not that Soros, Axelrod and Rahm are of different mindset.

riddick on May 31, 2012 at 1:16 AM

Prezzy Bungler in chief must have read a lot of books about American and world history, too. Might as well throw in geography while we’re at it. This just proves he’s such an intellect.

Kissmygrits on May 31, 2012 at 10:01 AM

What next ? This puke has been everything to everyone and nothing to all. With 6 months to go; he is finally being himself. 57 states to come.

democratsarefools on May 31, 2012 at 11:15 AM

A muslim phoney claiming to be conversant with Judaism? That’s rich. I understand he’s an expert on Christianity, too. Well, that’s what he said…

uncle_fweddy on May 31, 2012 at 1:33 PM

American Jews are socially liberal and economically more on the socialist side. Guess which party represents those values more? I personally find that many of the younger generation don’t even know much about Israel, and see it through the prism of NYT on the one hand, and their parents’ more pro-Zionist influence to counteract the former. They really don’t know the Israeli side of it. So given all those things, Obama will enjoy the support of the majority of American Jews, as all Democrat presidential candidates before him did.

AlexB on May 31, 2012 at 5:07 PM

I don’t get it. Ob@st@rd THROWS Isreal UNDER the bus, and Jews STILL vote (D)????? Wonder how they’ll vote once the mushroom cloud appears over Tel Aviv???

Colatteral Damage on May 31, 2012 at 6:05 PM

I lived in a community of Jews, Italians, Germans and Irish mostly (OK, no Blacks or Hispanics to speak of and a few assorted Asians). We threw epithets, based on nationality, etc, casually and often in good humor. In fact, we could use the same word to express hatred or friendship and people rarely misunderstood which. Basically, I’m talking about life before PC. I miss that. People were less sensitive to mere words and had thicker skins. I think that it helped us to get along better than the PC world of today where a slur (even in jest) is a hate crime.
MJBrutus on May 30, 2012 at 8:08 PM

Our grade school mantra was “sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me.”
I don’t think they teach that anymore.

AesopFan on May 31, 2012 at 7:00 PM

Well, duh.

He probably received quite a few lessons about Jews in those Indonesian madrasas he grew up in.

Jingo95 on June 1, 2012 at 2:17 AM

King Narcissus is, indeed, very, very impressed with himself. Seems he has a record of saying he’s better at this or that than him, her or even you.

He’s the first American Idol (or is that Idol-American?) president.

Olo_Burrows on June 1, 2012 at 4:22 AM

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