Video: MSNBC observes Memorial Day

posted at 9:36 am on May 28, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

If there’s one thing on which we all can agree, it’s that any man or woman who gives their last full measure of devotion in service to their nation has a legitimate claim to the title “hero.” Regardless of whether one supports the policies that put the service member in that position, the man or woman volunteered to follow the orders of his Commander in Chief to defend all of us and our freedom, knowing full well what they may have to sacrifice on our behalf. Unfortunately, that’s not quite a universal point of agreement, as it turns out.  Yesterday, MSNBC and its host Chris Hayes called that recognition warmongering in an incoherent, rambling statement that will haunt the channel and its host for a very long time:

Newsbusters has the transcript:

CHRIS HAYES: Thinking today and observing Memorial Day, that’ll be happening tomorrow.  Just talked with Lt. Col. Steve Burke [sic, actually Beck], who was a casualty officer with the Marines and had to tell people [inaudible].  Um, I, I, ah, back sorry, um, I think it’s interesting because I think it is very difficult to talk about the war dead and the fallen without invoking valor, without invoking the words “heroes.” Um, and, ah, ah, why do I feel so comfortable [sic] about the word “hero”?  I feel comfortable, ah, uncomfortable, about the word because it seems to me that it is so rhetorically proximate to justifications for more war. Um, and, I don’t want to obviously desecrate or disrespect memory of anyone that’s fallen, and obviously there are individual circumstances in which there is genuine, tremendous heroism: hail of gunfire, rescuing fellow soldiers and things like that. But it seems to me that we marshal this word in a way that is problematic. But maybe I’m wrong about that.

The spokesman for the Veterans of Foreign Wars tells Hayes that he’s absolutely wrong about it:

A spokesman for a leading veterans organization criticized MSNBC’s Chris Hayes for arguing on his television show that that he’s “uncomfortable” describing American soldiers who died in battles as heroes.

“If Mr. Hayes feels uncomfortable, I suggest he enlist, go to war, then come home to what he expects is a grateful nation but encounters the opposite. It’s far too easy to cast stones from inexperience,” Veterans of Foreign Wars spokesman Joe Davis told The Daily Caller on Sunday.

I’d suggest that Hayes needs to talk to a few veterans.  We’re specifically remembering those who died in service to their country today (Veterans Day in November honors those still among us), but those veterans knew the men and women who didn’t make it back home to their families.  Ask those veterans who the heroes were and are, and you won’t hear any whimpering about rhetorical proximations.

My left-of-center friend Brendan Loy didn’t mince words on Twitter about Hayes’ comments:

Since there’s some lib anti-military BS aboot, I’ll take this moment to thank the #heroes who died fighting for me, my country & my freedom.

I don’t always agree with the orders they’re following, but that’s utterly beside the point. Those who volunteer to defend us ARE heroes.

If your standard for heroism of individual soldiers is that they must disobey all orders you/they disagree with: LOL. That’s nuts.

It’s not the military’s job to make policy. The civilian gov’t sets policy. The military carries it out. Usually heroically.

Maybe it would just be best if Hayes says, “Thank you”:

Thank you to all those who have given their lives in service to our nation, from an overwhelmingly grateful free citizenry. Their loved ones are in our prayers today.

Update: My friend Kevin McCullough writes an open letter to Chris Hayes and anyone else having trouble seeing the fallen as heroes.

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Hayes is a slug

Bradky on May 28, 2012 at 9:39 AM

Chris Hayes and all Liberals who feel as he does are nothing but un-American, ungrateful idiots.

May God hold our fallen, our veterans, those presently protecting us, and all of their families in the hollow of His hand.

kingsjester on May 28, 2012 at 9:40 AM

No matter where they’re fighting, they’re also fighting to make sure that the American next to them goes home in one piece. Knowing nothing else, that’s absolutely heroic.

RBMN on May 28, 2012 at 9:41 AM

If there’s one thing on which we all can agree, it’s that any man or woman who gives their last full measure of devotion in service to their nation has a legitimate claim to the title “hero.”

Um, not “all”.

He’s not a lone wolf… there is a significant number on the Left who feel the same way Hayes does… including most of the hosts at MNDNC.

There are also a few Paulnuts who are nodding in agreement with Hayes too.

mankai on May 28, 2012 at 9:41 AM

Chris, when was the last time peace broke out?

You are not worth defending, but you get defended anyway.

Rest in discomfort.

Wander on May 28, 2012 at 9:43 AM

What’s the deal with the autoplay on the video?

rlyle on May 28, 2012 at 9:44 AM

Hey y’all, VERY IMPORTANT!

I googled this Chris Hayes guy. Had never heard of him before. Turns out he’s more of a Ron Paulist. He’s more of a Justin Raimondo/AntiWar.com, Lew Rockell sort, than a simple leftist Daily Kos type.

So, blame this on the Ron Paulists. Put it in their face. Ask them do they also believe like this Chris Hayes guy that Veterans don’t deserve to be memorialized or fallen soldiers called heros?

Note – today at that despicable left-libertarian site AntiWar.com Raimondo has an editorial “Abolish Memorial Day.”

Bottom line: Left-Libertarians (Ron Paulists, Rockwell, AntiWar.com, many folks at Reason) are just as despicable as the leftists themselves.

True libertarians oppose Islamo-Fascism!

ericdondero on May 28, 2012 at 9:45 AM

yeah and Al Qaeda in Iraq are freedom fighters tool bag.

rob verdi on May 28, 2012 at 9:46 AM

Happy Memorial Day, everyone.

I read about Hayes yesterday. He doesn’t understand who paid the bill for him to be able to say the things he does or what the cost was.

dogsoldier on May 28, 2012 at 9:47 AM

But maybe I’m wrong about that.

Ya think???

This guy obviously never served his country in any capacity. His next job should require a paqper hat.

DAT60A3 on May 28, 2012 at 9:47 AM

No matter where they’re fighting, they’re also fighting to make sure that the American next to them goes home in one piece. Knowing nothing else, that’s absolutely heroic.

RBMN on May 28, 2012 at 9:41 AM

And let’s not forget, many of them who are fighting are not necessarily fighting a human enemy.

Much of the time, the “Coasties” fight the elements to save Americans. Semper Paratus!

Del Dolemonte on May 28, 2012 at 9:48 AM

ericdondero on May 28, 2012 at 9:45 AM

Note:

There are also a few Paulnuts who are nodding in agreement with Hayes too.

mankai on May 28, 2012 at 9:41 AM

Ron Paul doesn’t like to acknowledge that there is a significant Leftist twist among his followers. By not squelching that element, he has brought discredit to the libertarian cause.

mankai on May 28, 2012 at 9:49 AM

Let’s put it in positive terms. Hundreds of thousands of the U.S. military gave their lives for Chris Hayes’ right to be an a$$hole. Chris is simply making the most of that opportunity.

bw222 on May 28, 2012 at 9:49 AM

Calling individuals that serve heroically is NOT the same as stating that you think any particular war is a “good” or “justified” war. A war can be a “wrong” war – and that doesn’t for a second take away from the valor of a soldier’s actions and perhaps sacrifice of his life.

These people usually can NEVER see justification for war …. so saying something positive about ANY PART AT ALL of it is anathema to them.

Sadly – the truth is some wars are quite necessary. The truth is that a lot of life is ugly and painful – but necessary and unavoidable. Many liberals seem to think that you can somehow “perfect” it and make life all sweet and happy and “right” – but it’s not the way it is.

pbundy on May 28, 2012 at 9:50 AM

ericdondero on May 28, 2012 at 9:45 AM

You are as refreshing as a cup of ice water after mowing the lawn.

Thank you for your service.

thebrokenrattle on May 28, 2012 at 9:50 AM

Chris Hayes’ glasses make him look like an even bigger dick.

St Gaudens on May 28, 2012 at 9:51 AM

Yet these red pinko slime like Hayes laud praises and cry real tears for idiots like that protester who laid down in front of that tank and got run over.

They give praise and speak in honorable tones when discussing the rapists and druggies in the OCCUPY protesters in Zucotti park and elsewhere.

portlandon on May 28, 2012 at 9:52 AM

MSNBS – Choom and the Gang. This we much.

philoise65 on May 28, 2012 at 9:52 AM

Note to Townhall: These autoplay ads are extremely annoying.

portlandon on May 28, 2012 at 9:52 AM

This beta male doesn’t even know what a hero is, but is uncomfortably aware he will never be one.

RadClown on May 28, 2012 at 9:53 AM

I contend that this is not Hayes belief at all. Frankly I wouldn’t be surprised that he had any closely held belief’s. Instead all he is doing is trying to curry favor with his lefty buddies. Kind of like “Did you see me on tv the other day? Wasn’t that cool of me? Oh and do you like my big black framed glasses? Don’t they make me look super intelligent? God I’m cool!”

What a puke!

glennbo on May 28, 2012 at 9:55 AM

What’s the deal with the autoplay on the video?

rlyle on May 28, 2012 at 9:44 AM

And Obama exploiting Memorial Day to boot. Another what if Bush did it moment….

CW on May 28, 2012 at 9:55 AM

These people disgust me. They are more of the ‘nauseating’ folks we have to endure. When is this channel going to go off the air?

Southgirl on May 28, 2012 at 9:58 AM

CHRIS HAYES: Thinking today….

Think not….

apostic on May 28, 2012 at 9:59 AM

Rush Limbaugh has his voice character “Mr. New Liberal Castrattii” and every time I glance past this weekend Chris Hayes show, I’m reminded of it.

Marcus on May 28, 2012 at 10:00 AM

At the end of the day after the Battle of Fredericksburg, then Colonel Joshua L. Chamberlain found himself trapped on the open field as day turned to night, unable to move for fear of being shot.

“But out of that silence rose new sounds more appalling still; a strange ventriloquism, of which you could not locate the source, a smothered moan, as if a thousand discords were flowing together into a key-note weird, unearthly, terrible to hear and bear, yet startling with its nearness; the writhing concord broken by cries for help, some begging for a drop of water, some calling on God for pity; and some on friendly hands to finish what the enemy had so horribly begun; some with delirious, dreamy voices murmuring loved names, as if the dearest were bending over them; and underneath, all the time, the deep bass note from closed lips too hopeless, or too heroic, to articulate their agony…It seemed best to bestow myself between two dead men among the many left there by earlier assaults, and to draw another crosswise for a pillow out of the trampled, blood-soaked sod, pulling the flap of his coat over my face to fend off the chilling winds, and still more chilling, the deep, many voiced moan that overspread the field.”

Memorial Day is not the same thing to all people.

hawkdriver on May 28, 2012 at 10:01 AM

It’s not about your feelings Mr. Hayes. Nor whether others may think badly about you or whether they may think you’re a “neocon” because you honor a soldier who died in a war “progressives” oppose.

The idea is to recognize the sacrifice of the ordinary – but not so ordinary – man or woman who died for us.

Whether someone thinks badly of you is of no concern.

SteveMG on May 28, 2012 at 10:01 AM

Chrissy thinks that he is the hero for saying this.

Vera on May 28, 2012 at 10:02 AM

Oh and do you like my big black framed glasses? Don’t they make me look super intelligent? God I’m cool!”

What a puke!

glennbo on May 28, 2012 at 9:55 AM

Those glasses are cool. He makes ‘em look bad.

thebrokenrattle on May 28, 2012 at 10:02 AM

What’s the deal with the autoplay on the video?

rlyle on May 28, 2012 at 9:44 AM

Note to Townhall: These autoplay ads are extremely annoying.

portlandon on May 28, 2012 at 9:52 AM

I’m not getting any autoplay…

OmahaConservative on May 28, 2012 at 10:02 AM

I actualy have watched Up with chris hayes several times in the past. Parts anyways. the panels of course are stacked with liberals and I like to hear them whine about stuff. as bad as hayes can be the one I really can’t stand is Toure.

msnbc liberals have no clue

gerrym51 on May 28, 2012 at 10:03 AM

Ron Paul doesn’t like to acknowledge that there is a significant Leftist twist among his followers. By not squelching that element, he has brought discredit to the libertarian cause.

mankai on May 28, 2012 at 9:49 AM

Yup, Harry Browne is spinning in his grave. He would be shocked to hear a lot of the Ron Paul followers’ words in 2012.

Ironically it was Ron Paul who eulogized Harry in Congress after he died.

Del Dolemonte on May 28, 2012 at 10:04 AM

Note to Townhall: These autoplay ads are extremely annoying.

portlandon on May 28, 2012 at 9:52 AM

Then eliminate the annoyance

cozmo on May 28, 2012 at 10:04 AM

Want to see what a typical faculty lounge looks like at Cal, Wisconsin, Ivy league,etc? Watch this clowns show early weekend mornings. Smug leftists doesn’t even begin to describe. It’s painful to get through 10 minutes of it. Try it sometime if you want to test your patience.

Hummer53 on May 28, 2012 at 10:05 AM

He has a problem calling the fallen…heroes…..I have no problem calling him a jackass………..

crosshugger on May 28, 2012 at 10:05 AM

I am uncomfortable calling Chris Hayes a human being because it is so rhetorically proximate to justifications for more abortions.

ktrich on May 28, 2012 at 10:06 AM

Chris Hayes will be rightfully villified for his poorly chosen words. He’s clearly overthinking a pretty simple topic. I can surmise that he’s just another pencil-necked pseudo-intellectual spouting off about things for which he has no credible basis. It’s good that we consider those who have given their lives in service of their country as “heroes” – but why????

All male members of family, save one, down to me have served in the military over the last three generations. All served with honor, and a few have served with valor and distinction.

I have an uncle who tells stories about fighting kamikazes off Okinawa. Another who talks about bombing runs over (the former) North Vietnam. Another uncle told me about fighting until his unit ran out of ammunition in Korea, being take prisoner, being tortured, escaping, being shot and left for dead, and living to rejoin his unit. He wanted me to know what it means to be a U.S. Marine. He has only only mentioned it once.

My father was shot down over Korea, and carried the co-pilot three miles south to find U.S. troops, armed only with a handgun and evasion training.

It’s a big family, and there are a lot of stories. It’s not an environment that generates quitters (nor tolerates them!).

We all believe that it’s better that people don’t experience some of this. It’s not glamorous, nor necessary, for people to grow character. Dying for your country is not really honorable. Living to pass on the values that made our country great is honorable.

But those who have died are honorable, but not because they died. It’s because they served the country that bore them when it asked them to. It’s because they present an example of fidelity, courage, and sacrifice for the rest of us to learn from. These lessons form the basis for our continuing growth as a nation.

And that makes them heroes.

Bigurn on May 28, 2012 at 10:06 AM

Note to Townhall: These autoplay ads are extremely annoying.

portlandon on May 28, 2012 at 9:52 AM

Then eliminate the annoyance

cozmo on May 28, 2012 at 10:04 AM

Yup. Blessed peace…

OmahaConservative on May 28, 2012 at 10:06 AM

Despicable little putz
———————————
He had one mom come on his show to blame the military for her sons suicide

Shameful

cmsinaz on May 28, 2012 at 10:08 AM

Hayes is a typical feminized male Lib, who in his castrated ecstasy needs to impress his Lib friends. The tried and true method is to insult the U.S. military, except that Hayes thought he was being “nuanced” about it. Isn’t it always the case that once a Lib steps in it, they inevitably appeal to “nuance” and “sophistication.” It never occurs to them they are misguided, or just plain wrong. Hayes is just plain stupid.

EMD on May 28, 2012 at 10:10 AM

Chris Hayes’ glasses make him look like an even bigger dick.

St Gaudens on May 28, 2012 at 9:51 AM

He definitely would wear the nickname “weiner” well. He reminds me of the nerds from some of the old teen comedies.

CW on May 28, 2012 at 10:12 AM

I would expect nothing less from Rachel Maddow’s ugly little sister.

Despicable.

HumpBot Salvation on May 28, 2012 at 10:14 AM

Can we question their patriotism yet?

Capitalist Infidel on May 28, 2012 at 10:15 AM

With the low ratings they draw day after day, why is MSNBC even still in business?

pilamaye on May 28, 2012 at 10:15 AM

MSNBC’s CHRIS HAYES is your classic Bed-wetter

He stinks of urine.

Watching MSNBC’s Chris Hayes soil himself, over the appropriateness of calling fallen soldiers “hero”, is sickening and repulsive.

BigSven on May 28, 2012 at 10:19 AM

The guy looks like your typical ball-less liberal male. These guys are not men… they may be male IF they even have the equipment to prove it, but they are not men. It doesn’t surprise me that a weak, pathetic male like this can’t grasp what people who volunteer for the armed forces provide for him. Men – and women – who have fallen defending this country have more honor and valor in a strand of their hair than this spineless child has in his entire body. Go crawl under the rock you belong, jerk.

tyketto on May 28, 2012 at 10:19 AM

This guy’s bio says it all.

Hayes is married to Kate A. Shaw, Associate Counsel for President Barack Obama and daughter of award-winning Chicago journalist Andy Shaw, who has also appeared a number of times on MSNBC.[11][12] Hayes and Shaw resided in Washington, D.C., until they moved to New York City, where Up with Chris Hayes is produced.[13] Their daughter, Ryan Elizabeth Shaw-Hayes, was born in November 2011.[14] Hayes’s brother Luke is a Democratic political operative.

Speakup on May 28, 2012 at 10:19 AM

Another miseducated Ivy Leaguer… Oh wait, he attended Brown… make that highly indoctrinated and uneducated (do they even have classes there)

phreshone on May 28, 2012 at 10:19 AM

He’s not a lone wolf… there is a significant number on the Left who feel the same way Hayes does… including most of the hosts at MNDNC.

There are also a few Paulnuts who are nodding in agreement with Hayes too.

mankai on May 28, 2012 at 9:41 AM

The people I’ve spoken with who have views similar to Hayes–very few of whom seem to exist outside of a college campus–usually put fallen soldiers into one of two categories:

1) Bloodthirsty savages who willingly signed up to fight for the American imperialist capitalist corporatist empire, and who therefore deserved to die, or

2) Tragic proles who joined the military because there was no other available career path once they graduated high school, and are therefore further victims of the aforementioned American imperialist capitalist corporatist empire.

JimLennon on May 28, 2012 at 10:19 AM

But it seems to me that we marshal this word in a way that is problematic.

Calling Chris Hayes a journalist is problematic for me. Douche-bag is more accurate.

perroviejo on May 28, 2012 at 10:22 AM

For a good time, there’s some funny stuff on Twitter at #HayesHeroism

petefrt on May 28, 2012 at 10:22 AM

I looked Chris Hayes up on the Wikepedia. If you ignore the disfluent character of his speech in the clip, he talks exactly how his philosophy degree at Brown trained him to talk. He thinks his ideas represent questioning and they do to some extent. We should ask the question he is asking about heroism and war. But we should ask why would we want to ask the question he is asking, and what is the benefits and costs of making that question an important one? The trouble with philosophy in a leftist mood as it is at Brown is not the questions being asked, but the lack of skepticism about the questions being asked.

thuja on May 28, 2012 at 10:24 AM

Note to Townhall: These autoplay ads are extremely annoying.

portlandon on May 28, 2012 at 9:52 AM

Yes, they are. And folks have been pointing that out for a very, very long time now, to no avail, unfortunately.

Midas on May 28, 2012 at 10:24 AM

Remember them, for it is they who made America possible.

BKeyser on May 28, 2012 at 10:24 AM

They’re going to have to re-staff MSNBC after Obama is shown the door.

kingsjester on May 28, 2012 at 10:25 AM

You must be at the TOP of the journalism ladder to have a WEEKEND SHOW at MSLSD…

Hayes: NASA is looking for you… they miss you since you left your ‘rocket scientist’ gig…

Khun Joe on May 28, 2012 at 10:26 AM

Note to Townhall: These autoplay ads are extremely annoying.

portlandon on May 28, 2012 at 9:52 AM

Yes, they are. And folks have been pointing that out for a very, very long time now, to no avail, unfortunately.

Midas on May 28, 2012 at 10:24 AM

They are easy enough to eliminate…

OmahaConservative on May 28, 2012 at 10:26 AM

Good. One petefrt

And his daughter has a hyphenated last name? Why am i not surprised

cmsinaz on May 28, 2012 at 10:27 AM

Another miseducated Ivy Leaguer… Oh wait, he attended Brown… make that highly indoctrinated and uneducated (do they even have classes there)

phreshone on May 28, 2012 at 10:19 AM

I dunno. I’m not smart enough to be a journalism major at Brown. The best I could do was to get a degree in mathematics (minor in astrophysics) from Purdue University, so I’m hopelessly mentally outgunned by the likes of Chris Hayes and the other MSDNC hosts.

JimLennon on May 28, 2012 at 10:27 AM

Disgusting.

I’m assuming he would feel “comfortable” living in a society without the freedom of speech to say the things he just said.

He can thank those HEROES, both living and dead, in our military that have sacrificed so much for his right to be a jackass.

ButterflyDragon on May 28, 2012 at 10:28 AM

Is it me or does it seem like some lib with access to mass media says something like this every Memorial Day now?

I know in Brtiain, outside the military and churchgoers (so we’re talking about 1%ers) their Memorial Day is a big national ‘Meh, whatevs’.

CorporatePiggy on May 28, 2012 at 10:29 AM

If Mr. Hayes feels uncomfortable, I suggest he enlist

He could serve out in the open now.

docflash on May 28, 2012 at 10:29 AM

This fool blathers his smug sanctimony from the safety and security of the free and powerful nation that millions of fallen heroes gave their lives to bequeath to him.

Idiot.

AZCoyote on May 28, 2012 at 10:33 AM

I would expect nothing less from Rachel Maddow’s ugly little sister.

Despicable.

HumpBot Salvation on May 28, 2012 at 10:14 AM

Rachel Maddow is more of a man than he is.

Disgusting bed-wetter.

Bitter Clinger on May 28, 2012 at 10:33 AM

Master Sergeant Gary Ivan Gordon (August 30, 1960 – October 3, 1993) is a posthumous recipient of the Medal of Honor. At the time of his death, he was a non-commissioned officer in the United States Army’s premiere special operations unit, the 1st Special Forces Operational Detachment-Delta (1SFOD-D), or “Delta Force.” Together with Sergeant First Class Randy Shughart, he was awarded the Medal of Honor for actions he performed during the Battle of Mogadishu in October 1993.

Sergeant First Class Randall David Shughart (August 13, 1958–October 3, 1993) was a soldier in the United States Army special operations unit, the 1st Special Forces Operational Detachment-Delta (1SFOD-D), or “Delta Force.” Shughart posthumously received the Medal of Honor for his actions during the Battle of Mogadishu in October 1993.

Staff Sgt. Jason Sean Dahlke, 29, a native of Orlando, Fla., died during an attack by a Ranger task force on an enemy position, Aug. 29. He served in the Regiment for more than four years. He is survived by his wife Nikole M. Norvell Dahlke of Richmond Hill, Ga., father Roger Dahlke and step-mother Tessa Dahlke of Jacksonville, Fla., and mother Debra DeLaney. Sisters: Talia Dahlke, Taryn Funcheon, Donielle Graham, Kelsea Evans. He joins his brother Joshua Dahlke in a better place.

Jason’s personal awards included a Purple Heart and two Army Commendation Medals.

It was a sad day as we added one more brave and courageous warrior to the Memorial at Hunter Army Airfield. SSG Anthony J. Davis, Bn TSE, 1st Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment, was killed in action in Tikrit on 6 January 2009. SSG Davis, a longtime mentor, leader, trainer to countless Rangers – leaves a legacy of devotion to this Nation and to his Brothers in Arms. He will be greatly missed by all who knew and loved him. Our sympathy to his Family as he joins the ranks of his 29 Ranger Buddies who have died in combat or training since 1974. His Savannah Memorial was held on 19 March 2009. He will never be forgotten!

Staff Sergeant Christopher M. Falkel was born on September 29, 1982 in Massachusetts.

He was a Special Forces weapons Sergeant assigned to 1st Battalion, 3rd Special Forces Group (Airborne), Fort Bragg, North Carolina.

Falkel died during combat operations near Deh Afghan, Afghanistan, August 8, 2005 while he was deployed in
support of Operation Enduring Freedom.

that is all….

ted c on May 28, 2012 at 10:33 AM

The comments of Mr. Hayes and those on his panel are probably the new distraction of the week for Mr. Obama and company. Now Mr. Obama can come out and make some comments that he disagrees with Mr. Hayes to make Obama look supportive of the Americans who serve and have served in the military.

MSNBC does not take a dumb unless Obama and his minions approve.

DVPTexFla on May 28, 2012 at 10:35 AM

Chris Hayes thinks wine coolers are harsh.

Wallythedog on May 28, 2012 at 10:36 AM

The first time I saw Hayes, I thought it was Rachel Maddow doing some sort of satire. They look like twins, with their sexual orientations switched at birth.

jan3 on May 28, 2012 at 10:37 AM

Note to Townhall: These autoplay ads are extremely annoying.

portlandon on May 28, 2012 at 9:52 AM

Yes, they are. And folks have been pointing that out for a very, very long time now, to no avail, unfortunately.

Midas on May 28, 2012 at 10:24 AM

They are easy enough to eliminate…

OmahaConservative on May 28, 2012 at 10:26 AM

Firefox browser with AdBlock Plus add-on works for me.

Del Dolemonte on May 28, 2012 at 10:37 AM

hawkdriver on May 28, 2012 at 10:01 AM

Thank you for that and thank you for your service, sir.

Godspeed to those that have fought, those that continue to fight our battles, and those that carry the scars of war throughout their everyday lives. You are all heroes.

CTSherman on May 28, 2012 at 10:39 AM

Chris Hayes’ glasses make him look like an even bigger dick.

St Gaudens on May 28, 2012 at 9:51 AM

…he needs those glasses to see to be able to see it!
These tools all seem to have trouble expressing themselves without a teleprompter don’t they?…Wonder why?

KOOLAID2 on May 28, 2012 at 10:42 AM

Since I can only get the advertisements to play, not the actual video I’m going to guess that his delivery was as stutteringly incoherent as the transcript suggests. I’m also going to assume that he typically delivers his news and polemics with a polished, professional manner suitable for a talking head.

Between those two assumptions I will then draw the conclusion that, like so many professional liberals he has never once bothered to actually reason out his positions beyond the purely superficial, fashionable, feel-good details. Since pissing on the graves of the dead is not something one can be utterly blase about without looking like a buffoon, and knee-jerk anti-war sentiment is the fashionable sentiment he is forced, on camera, to try and rationalize his position with predictably ugly results.

So, while everyone else is mocking the stuffed suit, I will be saluting his first foray into actual thought. It went poorly, of course, but then most of us do that when we are too young to remember the embarrassing details.

SpikeRHSC on May 28, 2012 at 10:43 AM

The amount of criticism leveled at this guy is way, way disproportionate to his ratings. He’s on something called “MSNBC” after all.

ncborn on May 28, 2012 at 10:43 AM

AMessNBC is in full damage control mode today. I just saw a an obviously, hastily produced “tribute” to the fallen for Memorial Day.

The musical track at the end of the segment was “Heroes”, by David Bowie.

This has the crap scared out of them over there.

beedubya on May 28, 2012 at 10:44 AM

True libertarians oppose Islamo-Fascism!

ericdondero on May 28, 2012 at 9:45 AM

Being a libertarian, I’ll gladly second that statement.

Archivarix on May 28, 2012 at 10:44 AM

“Maybe I’m wrong about that.”

Gee, d’ya think?

disa on May 28, 2012 at 10:45 AM

This is what gets me. If this assclown Chris Hayes had said this on any other station, national or local, with the possible exception of NBC, chances are very good he would have been shown the door five minutes after the show was off the air. If it had been on Fox News, he would have been physically thrown through the door, regardless if it was opened or not, and with extreme prejudice.

But because he mumbled this anti-military blather on MSNBC, it is a sure bet that every lunatic on that network, from Matthews to Schultz to O’Donnell to Maddow and everyone else in between are going to stand behind every single solitary crap word Hayes said here, because what he said is pretty much the general sentiment of MSNBC when it comes to the military.

Which again has me questioning who exactly is watching this garbage day after day, night after night, and giving ratings to a network that should have been thrown off the air ages ago!

pilamaye on May 28, 2012 at 10:46 AM

I watched the whole show (I know..I know), and Little Chrissy actually said at one point that he doesn’t even know anyone in the military.

How is that possible?

beedubya on May 28, 2012 at 10:46 AM

“Rhetorically proximate”? …what a douche bag

beedubya on May 28, 2012 at 10:47 AM

I have zero intention of clicking on any link that leads to Hayes or MSNBC.

I would rather assassinate a crack whore’s only child in a revenge killing for a drug deal gone bad. My integrity would be less compromised.

HeatSeeker2011 on May 28, 2012 at 10:48 AM

I feel comfortable, ah, uncomfortable, about the word because it seems to me that it is so rhetorically proximate to justifications for more war.

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Weasel words.

ExpressoBold on May 28, 2012 at 10:49 AM

He says “I could be wrong…”

I say “YES YOU ARE!”

No right-minded person likes war. Only wrong-minded people see war as SO evil that any alternative is better, not understanding that some of those alternatives lead to people living under the most evil and horrific circumstance imaginable…even UNIMAGINABLE…and even WORSE than the war that prevents it or ends it.

As for me, I am humbled and grateful for every individual who has sacrificed so much that I am blessed to live in the most FAVORABLE circumstances imaginable. Thank you, each and every one. You’re sacrifices are very appreciated.

conservative4freedom on May 28, 2012 at 10:50 AM

+1 wally

Heh

cmsinaz on May 28, 2012 at 10:50 AM

Perhaps the up side is this man has hasted MSNBC’s eventual extinction.

TimBuk3 on May 28, 2012 at 10:50 AM

Yepper pilamaye

Adulations from his msdnc buddies

cmsinaz on May 28, 2012 at 10:52 AM

This is nothing new. Liberals oppose celebration of military service unless the service member is gay, Muslim or a critic of United States policy and influence. For liberals, you can’t talk about military service without coupling praise of the service with equal amounts of expressions of guilt over all the bad things our military has supposedly wrought around the world. Similarly, liberals hate unabashed patriotism, and they believe expressing shame for our country makes them appear superior.

These areas are especially popular for liberals to express shame over: military (associated with national patriotism, symbol of domination and colonialism), being white (to them white is bad because whites have been the “oppressors”), religion (bad because religion is founded on universal, absolute truths and belief in God, not belief in government), wealth creation (no one deserves that much more money than anyone else, and besides, as Elizabeth Warren would say, the rich couldn’t have gotten that way without govt, anyway).

Chris Hayes sounds like he is leading a college sociology class (you know, any of those B.S. “[Fill in Identity Group] Studies” discussion section. All those useless, equivocating, self-superior, ungrateful, whiny academics say the same things and say them the same way, usually putting the phrase “sort of” in the middle of many sentences. For example, “It’s a, sort of, uncomfortable way of, sort of, talking about military service.”

These are the kinds of people you elect to office if you want to ruin your country. They hate the very things that made our country great and they mask tearing down those foundations as some kind of never-ending pursuit of “fairness”, and they’ll keep using government power to force this “fairness” even if it weakens the country and transforms it into something almost totally unrecognizable.

No, liberals don’t love America. They believe America is a shameful country that needs to be transformed.

I’m happy Chris Hayes exposed himself in this way.

bluegill on May 28, 2012 at 10:52 AM

This has the crap scared out of them over there.

beedubya on May 28, 2012 at 10:44 AM

Awesome. They know they are known as an unofficial arm of the Obama Campaigns( I mean really, their slogan is the same “Lean/Forward”) and they know this could hurt their god-candidate.

thebrokenrattle on May 28, 2012 at 10:53 AM

Memorial Day is not the same thing to all people.

hawkdriver on May 28, 2012 at 10:01 AM

Thanks, hawk… retired Navy dittos heading your way…

Khun Joe on May 28, 2012 at 10:54 AM

Ann Coulet said it best….

Meanwhile, Ann Coulter took to Twitter to give her assessment of the MSNBC host’s comment. “Chris Hayes ‘Uncomfortable’ Calling Fallen Military ‘Heroes’ — Marines respond by protecting his right to menstruate,” she tweeted.

Markvike on May 28, 2012 at 10:56 AM

To my many friends that were lost in war and their families, may G-d always bless you.

DDay on May 28, 2012 at 10:56 AM

Ann Coulter

Markvike on May 28, 2012 at 10:56 AM

How is that possible?

beedubya on May 28, 2012 at 10:46 AM

Sadly, there are more people like him than you can possibly imagine.

CTSherman on May 28, 2012 at 10:56 AM

I wonder how unconfortable Miss Hayes would have been if he was surrounded by a few war vets instead of his liberal buddies. What really bugs me is after all the garbage about Bush being a “draft dodger” and the importance of service when considering the chief executive.

Drop dead scumbag.

banzaibob on May 28, 2012 at 10:56 AM

I always wondered what Rachel Maddow’s girlfriend looked like…

Wyznowski on May 28, 2012 at 10:59 AM

No right-minded person likes war. Only wrong-minded people see war as SO evil that any alternative is better, not understanding that some of those alternatives lead to people living under the most evil and horrific circumstance imaginable…even UNIMAGINABLE…and even WORSE than the war that prevents it or ends it.

conservative4freedom on May 28, 2012 at 10:50 AM

I was struck by just how straight forwardly you made this statement compared with twisty, turny passages of Chris Hayes’s statement. Sometimes the right answer to people like Hayes is the simple answer. I fear I would have wrongly tried to talk back to Hayes in his language.

thuja on May 28, 2012 at 11:00 AM

Anyone who serves honorably in the service of our country is a hero. I fail to understand why this gentleman bothered to voice these thoughts.

Cindy Munford on May 28, 2012 at 11:00 AM

Chris Hayes is a turd in a swimming pool.

Hermeticus on May 28, 2012 at 11:01 AM

Thanks, hawk… retired Navy dittos heading your way…

Khun Joe on May 28, 2012 at 10:54 AM

Back at you.

hawkdriver on May 28, 2012 at 11:01 AM

The crybabies over at MSNBC do recognize military heroes.

They swoon over the courage of hippy war protesters who march in parades and burn the American flag. Their heroes show up at funerals of our fallen soldiers, taunting their family and friends.

But if this country ever were invaded, they would be the first to run for cover behind one of our nation’s finest.

fogw on May 28, 2012 at 11:02 AM

Sheesh, doesn’t everyone know, football, basketball and activists are hero’s……… Soldiers not so much////
what a jerk…….

angrymike on May 28, 2012 at 11:03 AM

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