Stand with Patterico, Aaron, and free speech

posted at 5:21 pm on May 25, 2012 by Allahpundit

It’s “Everybody Blog About Brett Kimberlin Day” and, judging by the boss emeritus’s amazing link round-up, pretty much everybody has. In the unlikely event that you missed it elsewhere, go read Patterico’s heart-stopping post on what he’s been through over the past 11 months. And then, if you can take any more, read Aaron Worthing’s chronicle of his own waking nightmare. They’re not the only ones in the crosshairs, either: Stacy McCain had to flee his home to protect his family, an ordeal he described to John Hawkins. This bit from the same interview is tantalizing:

That a person like this should be entrusted as the director of a 501c3 non-profit boggles the mind…

Sources have told me that Capitol Hill staffers have been briefed about the background on the Kimberlin case. By the way, these briefings happened before I had ever heard of Brett Kimberlin. People have been looking at this for a long time and trying to figure out, you know, what’s going on here.

I can’t believe that the legal system could have failed so badly that Aaron, an attorney, and Pat, a deputy D.A.(!), were left with no recourse but to plead for help publicly in desperation. Yet here we are. Now that Glenn Beck and his megaphone are broadcasting about this, maybe that’ll change. Whatever happens now, the cops can’t say they didn’t know.

Go piece through Michelle’s link round-up up top. And give what you can at the National Bloggers Club to make this horror movie a tiny bit better for the people involved.


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Fair warning to commenters: I’m following the same policy as Ace here. I don’t want to see any threats or smears in the thread. If you’re not sure that the info you have is absolutely factual, don’t post it.

Allahpundit on May 25, 2012 at 5:22 PM

Surreal.

Valiant on May 25, 2012 at 5:25 PM

Ace and Allahpundit, “We want to expose this guy but don’t try to upset him”.

lowandslow on May 25, 2012 at 5:26 PM

It’s absolutely essential that brilliant sunshine shines on Kimberlin and everyone that supports him. He’s the true face of the left.

darwin on May 25, 2012 at 5:26 PM

I hope this creep is shut down soon.

AZCoyote on May 25, 2012 at 5:28 PM

If a deputy DA can’t get law enforcement to act what does that say for the average citizen..? WTH?

d1carter on May 25, 2012 at 5:28 PM

I hoped you would get to this eventually. I’m glad.

I was just about to comment that you’re not on Dan Riehl’s list here — soon you will be.

Well done, Hot Air.

I agree with Ace’s analysis that publicity itself isn’t going to do it; pressure needs to be brought to bear on the authorities to act.

For example, Patterico had a SWAT team called to his house! He’s a Deputy District DA. He could have got hurt. So could his family. It’s a total waste of valuable police resources. They should be outraged and want to find out who did this.

That’s just one example in a long trail of awful examples.

Mitchell Heisman on May 25, 2012 at 5:28 PM

Looks like the Drudge Repot is missing in action….

idesign on May 25, 2012 at 5:28 PM

Our legal system is, at times, a joke. Restraining orders are now given out like candy at a parade, just have to have a good story. It doesn’t even have to read as believable, just that you think you have reason to feel threatened.

Custody cases are the worst. You can’t believe how many people start abusing their kids after one parent wants to split. sarc/

LetsBfrank on May 25, 2012 at 5:29 PM

Report

Sorry….:)

idesign on May 25, 2012 at 5:29 PM

Has the internet ever ganged up on anyone before?

(NTTAWWT)

aquaviva on May 25, 2012 at 5:29 PM

This story is so disturbing. Good for the blogging community for getting this out to people like me who didn’t know about this guy. I do now.

gophergirl on May 25, 2012 at 5:30 PM

Patterico seems to be down. :(

Kensington on May 25, 2012 at 5:31 PM

lowandslow on May 25, 2012 at 5:26 PM

That really isn’t fair. Considering what a litigious loon this fellow is, bloggers have to be able to show they were completely honest and that they required honesty of commenters, as well.

DrMagnolias on May 25, 2012 at 5:32 PM

Ace and Allahpundit, “We want to expose this guy but don’t try to upset him”.

lowandslow on May 25, 2012 at 5:26 PM

No , it’s about tactics of lawfare.

the_nile on May 25, 2012 at 5:32 PM

Ace and Allahpundit, “We want to expose this guy but don’t try to upset him”.

lowandslow on May 25, 2012 at 5:26 PM

Insults (i.e., expressing your honest opinion) and factually-based and sourcable criticisms are allowed. So that isn’t what Allahpundit said.

I’m sure that Kimberlin is plenty pissed that everyone is writing about him, and that his donors are finding out what a violent, dishonest barbarian he is.

See how that works, lowandslow? My comment won’t be deleted.

Mitchell Heisman on May 25, 2012 at 5:33 PM

Question — why can’t the harassed folks sue in response, a class action thing? Does that work against an individual? Or what about RICO? Do those apply? I just can’t believe there is no legal recourse for the aggrieved.

Better yet, can’t people just ignore his lawsuits? Just don’t show up to answer them? Is that possible?

pamplonajack on May 25, 2012 at 5:33 PM

Michelle Malkin’s post is awesome.

John the Libertarian on May 25, 2012 at 5:33 PM

i posted this on one of the headline threads…but it is still good to see this at the top of Memeorandum

http://www.memeorandum.com/

r keller on May 25, 2012 at 5:35 PM

Looks like the Drudge Repot is missing in action….

idesign on May 25, 2012 at 5:28 PM

Hopefully he make it his lead story and leave it on over the weekend.

John the Libertarian on May 25, 2012 at 5:35 PM

If you haven’t seen it, here’s video of the “assault” Kimberlin claims Aaron perpetrated against him.

Flora Duh on May 25, 2012 at 5:35 PM

Looks like the Drudge Repot is missing in action….

Yeah, I noticed that. I’m hoping it’s something he gets on to, quickly.

Even Kate from Small Dead Animals joined — no excuse for others not to be part of this.

Except fear, since they are thugs.

Mitchell Heisman on May 25, 2012 at 5:37 PM

Ace and Allahpundit, “We want to expose this guy but don’t try to upset him”.

lowandslow on May 25, 2012 at 5:26 PM

No, idiot. Don’t give the guy any extra ammo.

If all we report are the facts, then the legal system will, eventually, grind him to paste. But if we start smearing him, or leveling threats, then he’s got something potentially actionable. Which totally defeats the purpose of the exposure we’re trying to give him.

Jeebus. You people need to stop looking for reasons to question motives. Use your damn brains!

nukemhill on May 25, 2012 at 5:37 PM

OK, are we going to have a bunch of the same people here going around screaming “concern troll” and “Moby” trying to shut people up going to wave the banner for “free speech”? This ought to be entertaining.

ddrintn on May 25, 2012 at 5:37 PM

lowandslow:

This guy is suing anyone who mentions his name. Don’t you think it’s probably a good policy not to randomly slander someone with his finger on the sue trigger?

Or is “don’t be an ass” just too much to ask?

Vera on May 25, 2012 at 5:37 PM

and Patterico’s piece is at the tippy top of memeorandum, which could explain why its down.

r keller on May 25, 2012 at 5:37 PM

That burns my rear end. I had that happen once (fake police call). Four o’clock in the morning and the police are rousting my wife and I out of bed.

Even after filing a complaint about harassment, they wouldn’t tell us who made the 911 call.

cozmo on May 25, 2012 at 5:37 PM

Breitbart mentioned the Patterico 911 and other harassments conservative bloggers were experiencing in an interview with Hugh Hewitt, the day before his death.

aquaviva on May 25, 2012 at 5:37 PM

Holder is otherwise engaged.

Schadenfreude on May 25, 2012 at 5:38 PM

I’ve never been so proud of the right blogosphere. How dare this sociopath get away with this.

John the Libertarian on May 25, 2012 at 5:29 PM

I’ll decide on that next week.

If this is a flash in the pan then I’ll be disappointed. But if this is something that is doggedly pursued, then I’ll be impressed.

FWIW, The Blaze post on this was epically detailed. It was basically perfect. And, shockingly, Foxnews.com’s take on this actually added something and was very good.

Nessuno on May 25, 2012 at 5:38 PM

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2012/may/25/picket-sen-hatch-no-surprise-kimberlin-harassing-c/

PICKET: Sen. Hatch – ‘No surprise’ Kimberlin is harassing conservative bloggers-Utah GOP’er had ‘run-ins’ with Kimberlin before

the_nile on May 25, 2012 at 5:39 PM

i don’t have a blog but i’ll copy this to the various sites i belong to

devadevadasa on May 25, 2012 at 5:39 PM

You know, this story would grow legs if one of the bloggers were arrested for masturbating on a street corner in San Diego.

Just saying….

ButterflyDragon on May 25, 2012 at 5:41 PM

Soros, Theresa Heinz, John Kerry and Barbra Streisand support the thug.

Schadenfreude on May 25, 2012 at 5:41 PM

MM is amazing in many ways…

d1carter on May 25, 2012 at 5:42 PM

Looks like the Drudge Repot is missing in action….

idesign on May 25, 2012 at 5:28 PM

At least Drudge isn’t threatening people if they make an unapproved comment, so all-in-all I would say his reporting is better.

VorDaj on May 25, 2012 at 5:42 PM

I’ll decide on that next week.

If this is a flash in the pan then I’ll be disappointed. But if this is something that is doggedly pursued, then I’ll be impressed.

Nessuno on May 25, 2012 at 5:38 PM

Yup.

SirGawain on May 25, 2012 at 5:43 PM

Just FYI, we’ve been posting links to the primary sites all day in the Headlines. We figured we’d drive traffic there rather than here until later in the day. After all, it’s people like Patterico and Aaron who have been working this story.

Ed Morrissey on May 25, 2012 at 5:43 PM

Man, I miss Breitbart. He was absolutely fearless and would have been leading the charge against this dirtbag.

JohnInCA on May 25, 2012 at 5:44 PM

Tweet, blog, comment, rinse and repeat. Make sure nobody can ignore this story.

ConservativeLA on May 25, 2012 at 5:44 PM

Fair warning to commenters: I’m following the same policy as Ace here. I don’t want to see any threats or smears in the thread. If you’re not sure that the info you have is absolutely factual, don’t post it.

Allahpundit on May 25, 2012 at 5:22 PM

You have just lost them potential support.

VorDaj on May 25, 2012 at 5:45 PM

Better yet, can’t people just ignore his lawsuits? Just don’t show up to answer them? Is that possible?

pamplonajack on May 25, 2012 at 5:33 PM

If you ignore a lawsuit, the plaintiff gets what is called a “default judgment” entered against you. You could easily end up bankrupted.

So yes, it’s possible to ignore his lawsuits, but it’s not a very good idea.

AZCoyote on May 25, 2012 at 5:45 PM

Somebody should do a factual bullet-point summary so people can tweet, blog and promote the cause without mistakenly libeling this person.

Capitalist Hog on May 25, 2012 at 5:47 PM

No, idiot. Don’t give the guy any extra ammo.

If all we report are the facts, then the legal system will, eventually, grind him to paste. But if we start smearing him, or leveling threats, then he’s got something potentially actionable. Which totally defeats the purpose of the exposure we’re trying to give him.

Jeebus. You people need to stop looking for reasons to question motives. Use your damn brains!

nukemhill on May 25, 2012 at 5:37 PM

Oh for crying out loud. This isn’t about anything more then Allahpundit and Ace running scared. All the talk about being brave and standing up for free speech is just that, talk. Why? Because they might get sued.

lowandslow on May 25, 2012 at 5:48 PM

The tactic of Swatting sounds particularly disturbing – spoofing phones, pretending to be somebody else’s phone – there should some sort of technological solution to this type of dangerous chicanery.

Chip on May 25, 2012 at 5:49 PM

I sent letters to my US Rep & Senators demanding that they investigate why the State Department is funding this dangerous creep.

jb34461 on May 25, 2012 at 5:49 PM

VorDaj on May 25, 2012 at 5:42 PM

VorDaj on May 25, 2012 at 5:45 PM

If you don’t like it here, leave.

Ed Morrissey on May 25, 2012 at 5:49 PM

Just FYI, we’ve been posting links to the primary sites all day in the Headlines. We figured we’d drive traffic there rather than here until later in the day. After all, it’s people like Patterico and Aaron who have been working this story.

Ed Morrissey on May 25, 2012 at 5:43 PM

Fair enough.

Mitchell Heisman on May 25, 2012 at 5:50 PM

Somebody should do a factual bullet-point summary so people can tweet, blog and promote the cause without mistakenly libeling this person.

Capitalist Hog on May 25, 2012 at 5:47 PM

Too lazy to click on just a few of the links, huh? This convict is not innocent. Do your homework rather than this silly “concern” routine.

cicerone on May 25, 2012 at 5:51 PM

Oh for crying out loud. This isn’t about anything more then Allahpundit and Ace running scared. All the talk about being brave and standing up for free speech is just that, talk. Why? Because they might get sued.

lowandslow on May 25, 2012 at 5:48 PM

So … if we post about this subject and show solidarity but DON’T want smears or libel posted, we’re somehow against free speech? Get a grip.

Ed Morrissey on May 25, 2012 at 5:52 PM

“I am Spartacus”. He can’t terrorize them all.

Paul-Cincy on May 25, 2012 at 5:52 PM

Patterico seems to be down. :(

Kensington on May 25, 2012 at 5:31 PM

Pat’s second comment on his post is:

I guess we’re going to find out whether a $150/month plan is enough to withstand a big link. Or several.

Comment by Patterico — 5/25/2012 @ 1:07 am

So I guess it is touch and go at his site ;)

Dawnsblood on May 25, 2012 at 5:53 PM

lowandslow on May 25, 2012 at 5:48 PM

Did you actually read the story at the link that was posted?

Would you like a swat team rousting you at 12:35 a.m. just because someone didn’t like your freedom of speech?

Chip on May 25, 2012 at 5:53 PM

Kimberlin Funders Stunned to Discover they Fund Kimberlin

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/05/25/Kimberlin-Funders-Stunned-to-Discover-they-Fund-Kimberlin?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BigGovernment+%28Big+Government%29

They received feedback. Haven’t finished the article yet….

bluefox on May 25, 2012 at 5:53 PM

lowandslow on May 25, 2012 at 5:48 PM

Here’s a novel idea. Start your own blog and post anything you want about Brett Kimberlin. If you don’t know how to do that you can always sign up for a Twitter account and tweet about him all day long.

Flora Duh on May 25, 2012 at 5:53 PM

This has pulled me out of my tweet slump. Get after it kids!

hazchic on May 25, 2012 at 5:53 PM

Somebody should do a factual bullet-point summary so people can tweet, blog and promote the cause without mistakenly libeling this person.

Capitalist Hog on May 25, 2012 at 5:47 PM

You know, he’s a public figure. It’s basically impossible to be liable for libel unless you say something you know is actually false and doing so causes damages. The danger is that Kimberlin et al will sue based on comments. And while I know he has sued a commenter, he’s also sued and harassed for truthful statements.

In other words, they are actually trying to suppress truth, not libel so being extra guarded about comments is probably pointless.

Nessuno on May 25, 2012 at 5:54 PM

Oh for crying out loud. This isn’t about anything more then Allahpundit and Ace running scared.

lowandslow on May 25, 2012 at 5:48 PM

You are posting, err, anonymously, aren’t you?

Mitchell Heisman on May 25, 2012 at 5:54 PM

Looks like the Drudge Repot is missing in action….

idesign on May 25, 2012 at 5:28 PM

Probably figures today is part of the holiday weekend. Drudge damn near shuts down on most weekends.

Keyser-Soze on May 25, 2012 at 5:55 PM

Oh for crying out loud. This isn’t about anything more then Allahpundit and Ace running scared. All the talk about being brave and standing up for free speech is just that, talk. Why? Because they might get sued.

lowandslow on May 25, 2012 at 5:48 PM

Oh boy, here we go.

Keyser-Soze on May 25, 2012 at 5:56 PM

Unfreakinbelievable!!

JAM on May 25, 2012 at 5:57 PM

Kudos to HA and the other blogs for this.

Even after filing a complaint about harassment, they wouldn’t tell us who made the 911 call.

cozmo on May 25, 2012 at 5:37 PM

That’s very strange because, contrary to Hollywood (just keep him on the line longer!) you can trace the VAST majority of calls in milliseconds. Yes, even VOIP…

It just requires the will. And you’d think false 911 calls where the stakes are high in terms of wasted manpower and public safety would be relatively high…

CorporatePiggy on May 25, 2012 at 5:57 PM

Fair warning to commenters: I’m following the same policy as Ace here. I don’t want to see any threats or smears in the thread. If you’re not sure that the info you have is absolutely factual, don’t post it.

Allahpundit on May 25, 2012 at 5:22 PM

Posting the truth about Kimberlin is dangerous enough. Giving him the additional advantages provided by falsehoods or threats of unlawful retaliation is just plain stupid and reckless.

Anyone who doesn’t understand the risks hasn’t been paying attention, and may pay dearly for their ignorance.

novaculus on May 25, 2012 at 5:57 PM

Why? Because they might get sued.

Right now there are Kimberlin led lawsuits that exist only to find the true identity of anonymous conservative bloggers. Why does Kimberlin want this information? So that he can harass and intimidate people like Ace and Allah.

But yeah, you’re a real hero to invite a lawsuit on someone else.

Vera on May 25, 2012 at 5:58 PM

Fair warning to commenters: I’m following the same policy as Ace here. I don’t want to see any threats or smears in the thread. If you’re not sure that the info you have is absolutely factual, don’t post it.

Allahpundit on May 25, 2012 at 5:22 PM

Would be nice to have these rules apply to all posts here.

SAZMD on May 25, 2012 at 5:58 PM

Oh for crying out loud. This isn’t about anything more then Allahpundit and Ace running scared. All the talk about being brave and standing up for free speech is just that, talk. Why? Because they might get sued.

lowandslow on May 25, 2012 at 5:48 PM

This is what it looks like when the “bash the betas” trend is taken too far.

WeekendAtBernankes on May 25, 2012 at 6:02 PM

I’m still shaking after reading all the accounts and attacks against the conservative bloggers. Unbelievable that law enforcement is doing so little to protect them.

It has finally occured to me that the left studies law to abuse the constitution, push boundaries and attack the people with whom they disagree… Sick puppies.

Fallon on May 25, 2012 at 6:03 PM

AZCoyote on May 25, 2012 at 5:45 PM

Thank you.

People need to be very careful in this situation. Some of the comments in these posts seem pretty sketchy considering all that has been reported.

At least Drudge isn’t threatening people if they make an unapproved comment, so all-in-all I would say his reporting is better.

VorDaj on May 25, 2012 at 5:42 PM

Advising you of a revised comment-policy seems fair. Doing so does not amount to a threat, not even close. If you don’t respect the safety of Hot Air bloggers why are you here? You are being impertinent, rude and disrespectful.

Capitalist Hog on May 25, 2012 at 6:04 PM

I can’t believe that the legal system could have failed so badly that Aaron, an attorney, and Pat, a deputy D.A.(!), were left with no recourse but to plead for help publicly in desperation. Yet here we are.

This is the part I find the most incredible.

He is crazy enough to pull this crap on a District Attorney, aka prosecutor?

Unbelievable!

I have been reading about this case for a few days, but I haven’t really taken the time to listen to Patterico’s whole story, or the Glenn Beck interviews.

I think I’ll go do that now.

Brian1972 on May 25, 2012 at 6:05 PM

It has finally occured to me that the left studies law to abuse the constitution, push boundaries and attack the people with whom they disagree

Welcome to the party, pal.

Mitchell Heisman on May 25, 2012 at 6:05 PM

Why? Because they might get sued killed.

lowandslow on May 25, 2012 at 5:48 PM

I realize you’re slow, but c’mon. SWAT teams, with guns drawn, are being sent to people’s houses in the middle of the night with spouses and children sleeping upstairs. If you don’t have a brain, have a heart.

Fallon on May 25, 2012 at 6:06 PM

Fair warning to commenters: I’m following the same policy as Ace here. I don’t want to see any threats or smears in the thread. If you’re not sure that the info you have is absolutely factual, don’t post it.

Allahpundit on May 25, 2012 at 5:22 PM

Would be nice to have these rules apply to all posts here.

SAZMD on May 25, 2012 at 5:58 PM

Most of the militant Mittfans would be outta here.

ddrintn on May 25, 2012 at 6:07 PM

I don’t want to overstate it but Patterico’s piece is a bit scary.

He’s a deputy DA in a major city and he can’t really get the police to help him. He’s tried.

Imagine someone without his background and connections?

This is taking political disagreements to a level that is just awful. Lawfare times ten.

SteveMG on May 25, 2012 at 6:07 PM

He is crazy enough to pull this crap on a District Attorney, aka prosecutor?

Crazy or maliciously astute?

The authorities did crap all to the person who placed that call, not even investigate it properly, nor follow up on what Patterico — experienced in these matters — called obvious leads.

And then Kimberlin accuses Aaron Worthing of a multi-blow assault, outside of a court room, under video camera showing it did not happen as he said it did, and Maryland’s authorities do nothing.

Forsooth, Kimberlin may just know what he can get away with.

Mitchell Heisman on May 25, 2012 at 6:09 PM

But Kos tweeted that the wingnuts were baseless with this.

the new aesthetic on May 25, 2012 at 6:09 PM

AP, I always knew you weren’t a beta male! Glad you wrote about this.

James OK on May 25, 2012 at 6:10 PM

CorporatePiggy on May 25, 2012 at 5:57 PM

Oh, I’m sure they know who made the call. I didn’t get to hear the call, but the police said that the call was not specific enough to be able to charge the caller, and letting me know who the caller was would just escalate the situation.

cozmo on May 25, 2012 at 6:11 PM

Section 312(a)(2) of the Act provides that the Commission may revoke any license “because of conditions coming to the attention of the Commission which would warrant it in refusing to grant a license or permit on an original application. The character of the licensee or applicant is among the factors that the Commission considers in determining whether the applicant has the requisite qualifications to operate the station for which authority is sought. The Commission’s character assessments focus on misconduct that demonstrates the licensee’s or applicant’s proclivity to deal truthfully with the Commission and to comply with its rules or
policies. The Commission consistently has applied character standards developed for broadcasters to applicants and licensees in the Amateur Radio Service. The Commission considers relevant “evidence of any conviction for misconduct constituting a felony” and has stated “there may be circumstances in which an applicant has engaged in non-broadcast misconduct so egregious as to shock the conscience and evoke almost universal disapprobation . . . . Such misconduct might, of its own nature, constitute prima facie evidence that the applicant lacks the traits of reliability and/or truthfulness necessary to be a licensee . . . .” In this regard, the Commission has stated that “[b]ecause all felonies are serious crimes, any conviction provides an indication of an applicant’s or licensee’s propensity to obey the law” and to conform to provisions
of both the Act and the agency’s rules and policies.

The above blockquote is from the FCC’s rules. I suggest it might serve as a model for other branches of government to draft similar regulations

meci on May 25, 2012 at 6:13 PM

We also need a concise list of the people who fund this DB in order to shine a light on them as well.

kim roy on May 25, 2012 at 6:14 PM

I’m still shaking after reading all the accounts and attacks against the conservative bloggers. Unbelievable that law enforcement is doing so little to protect them.
It has finally occured to me that the left studies law to abuse the constitution, push boundaries and attack the people with whom they disagree… Sick puppies.
Fallon on May 25, 2012 at 6:03 PM

The law was meant to be a shield. The left uses it as a sword.

CycloneCDB on May 25, 2012 at 6:15 PM

Oh, I’m sure they know who made the call. I didn’t get to hear the call, but the police said that the call was not specific enough to be able to charge the caller ….

cozmo, dude, it’s illegal to call 911 and say you shot someone if you didn’t, not to mention sending police — a valuable, expensively-trained large police team and other emergency departments no less — to someone else’s address.

Mitchell Heisman on May 25, 2012 at 6:15 PM

Quite frankly it’s AMAZINGLY easy to find someone on the internet if you try.

Sometimes all you need is an IP address (or series of them) by far the easiest is when someone actually uses their real name (or something close to it) online…..aka Facebook.

I used to be a skip tracer and actually had loads of fun showing my client how easy it was to find the folks who had taken off on their rent and broken leases.

They gave me a STACK of folders on a whim when I boasted how easy it was. Within 10 minutes I had current addresses and phone numbers and the first two. Easiest $50 I ever made.

SgtSVJones on May 25, 2012 at 6:16 PM

That’s very strange because, contrary to Hollywood (just keep him on the line longer!) you can trace the VAST majority of calls in milliseconds. Yes, even VOIP…

It just requires the will. And you’d think false 911 calls where the stakes are high in terms of wasted manpower and public safety would be relatively high…

CorporatePiggy on May 25, 2012 at 5:57 PM

I can’t believe that the legal system could have failed so badly that Aaron, an attorney, and Pat, a deputy D.A.(!), were left with no recourse but to plead for help publicly in desperation. Yet here we are.

This is the part I find the most incredible.

He is crazy enough to pull this crap on a District Attorney, aka prosecutor?

Unbelievable!

I have been reading about this case for a few days, but I haven’t really taken the time to listen to Patterico’s whole story, or the Glenn Beck interviews.

I think I’ll go do that now.

Brian1972 on May 25, 2012 at 6:05 PM

I don’t want to overstate it but Patterico’s piece is a bit scary.

He’s a deputy DA in a major city and he can’t really get the police to help him. He’s tried.

Imagine someone without his background and connections?

This is taking political disagreements to a level that is just awful. Lawfare times ten.

SteveMG on May 25, 2012 at 6:07 PM

Maybe like the new black panthers it’s about connections, it all needs media sunshine to be stopped.

the_nile on May 25, 2012 at 6:16 PM

Most of the militant Mittfans would be outta here.

ddrintn on May 25, 2012 at 6:07 PM

That was funny. Maybe two Romney-bots would get the boot.

But you ABR nutballs on the other hand…

cozmo on May 25, 2012 at 6:17 PM

‘Scuse me should have read *on the first two*. Above.

Can we please get an EDIT function one of these days?

SgtSVJones on May 25, 2012 at 6:18 PM

Forsooth, Kimberlin may just know what he can get away with.

Mitchell Heisman on May 25, 2012 at 6:09 PM

This is, well, sickening.

I’m gonna listen to the actual story so I’m not as in the dark about this situation. I’ve only read some of Stace McCain’s posts the last few days, and some of Dan Rheil and Michelle’s stuff. I need to hear Patterico tell this story in his own voice, so I’m going to load that up now.

Brian1972 on May 25, 2012 at 6:19 PM

Mitchell Heisman on May 25, 2012 at 6:15 PM

Dude yourself, I was referring to my own situation.

cozmo on May 25, 2012 at 6:20 PM

This would not have happened if the douche had a rich daddy like Billy Ayers. He would be running the Tides Foundation rather than living off it.

BL@KBIRD on May 25, 2012 at 6:20 PM

Oh for crying out loud. This isn’t about anything more then Allahpundit and Ace running scared. All the talk about being brave and standing up for free speech is just that, talk. Why? Because they might get sued.

lowandslow on May 25, 2012 at 5:48 PM

Wow. That doesn’t even qualify as troll-quality commenting. I’d accuse you of having no sense of context, but you’d clearly have no clue what I’m talking about.

nukemhill on May 25, 2012 at 6:20 PM

Dude yourself, I was referring to my own situation.

cozmo on May 25, 2012 at 6:20 PM

Ah.

Mitchell Heisman on May 25, 2012 at 6:22 PM

This is a systemic problem that needs to be resolved before there are illegal home invasions that result in multiple casualties.

There are a lot of people who reach for a firearm when they hear their door smashed in and a lot of people shouting…

CorporatePiggy on May 25, 2012 at 6:24 PM

That the legal system is well aware of this guy and his acts of terror against people for telling the truth about his actions..

and have done nothing is the scariest part. I read Patterico’s post this morning.. and he can’t even get the Fed’s to show even the slightest interest. Just another citizen being stomped on.. oh well..

add to that Patterico has been gathering his own evidence and leads and they still will not act.. it cannot be they approve of him or share his radical politics..

a simple case of they just don’t care?

No careers to be made by investigating this barbarian?… is that it?

mark81150 on May 25, 2012 at 6:25 PM

I am contacting the 501c3 financial supporters.

If 3 people at the color of change can get companies to drop a reputable group like ALEC think what an ARMY of conservative posters can do to affect real change here.

batterup on May 25, 2012 at 6:25 PM

All home invasions are illegal, of course. But the police acting on veritably false intel that results in multiple casualties is still going to be a problem.

What if Patterico had lived in rural Oklahoma, had experienced multiple break ins by meth-heads (common), and answered his door with a shouldered AR?

CorporatePiggy on May 25, 2012 at 6:27 PM

CorporatePiggy on May 25, 2012 at 6:27 PM

Or been an inner city resident who was known to have already shot one bad guy.

Yeah, it scared the bejezus out of me. I can relate to what Patterico went through. To this day, the guy who did it swears it wasn’t him. If I could prove he did it…

…though he is still paying for trying to be the neighborhood bully. Years after he moved away.

cozmo on May 25, 2012 at 6:34 PM

Quite frankly it’s AMAZINGLY easy to find someone on the internet if you try.

Sometimes all you need is an IP address (or series of them) by far the easiest is when someone actually uses their real name (or something close to it) online…..aka Facebook.

I used to be a skip tracer and actually had loads of fun showing my client how easy it was to find the folks who had taken off on their rent and broken leases.

They gave me a STACK of folders on a whim when I boasted how easy it was. Within 10 minutes I had current addresses and phone numbers and the first two. Easiest $50 I ever made.

SgtSVJones on May 25, 2012 at 6:16 PM

When you trace a person by IP address, wouldn’t you always need the assistance of the person’s ISP to find them?

Bizarro No. 1 on May 25, 2012 at 6:36 PM

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totherightofthem on May 25, 2012 at 6:36 PM

When you trace a person by IP address, wouldn’t you always need the assistance of the person’s ISP to find them?

Lots of these IP addresses have been published. You could at least find out what community a person is from, in all likelihood.

Mitchell Heisman on May 25, 2012 at 6:39 PM

Also, all you need is some shmuck in a call center that is willing to support Occupy or whatever.

Mitchell Heisman on May 25, 2012 at 6:40 PM

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