Let’s face it: Most forms of entitlement reform are theft

posted at 7:11 pm on May 25, 2012 by Dustin Siggins

In the debate over how to deal with America’s looming budget problems, liberals and conservatives have starkly different solutions to entitlement reform. Necessary for the financial security of America, entitlement reform is difficult for a myriad of political, ethical and financial reasons. As Michael Linden of the liberal Center for American Progress stated last year: “It’s true in the long run…the major drivers of the federal deficit are an aging population, which means higher costs for Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, and also rising health care costs generally…we are going to have to have some really serious conversations about how to get those things under control.”

How serious will these conversations have to be? Social Security and Medicare spending alone totaled about $1.217 trillion in 2011, or one-third of the federal budget, according to the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities. This budgetary impact will reach 50% of federal spending in the next 20 years, as Veronique de Rugy calculates here. By 2020, according to the Government Accountability Office, 92% of the federal budget will be taken up by Medicare, Social Security, Medicaid and interest on the national debt. Lastly, Social Security and Medicare alone will eventually require 100% of federal tax revenues to cover their costs.

So what is the solution to our growing Social Security and Medicare cost problems? Regardless of one’s political leanings, it boils down to one word: stealing. Despite having taxed employers and workers at a combined 15.3% of each employee’s paycheck at the point of a gun (AKA the rule of law), reforms are discussed primarily with the following four politically-viable options in mind:

  1. Raise taxes on some or all earners. Given payers into the Social Security and Medicare programs were initially given a promise of sorts from the federal government that they would receive a certain level of benefits for a certain level of taxation, this is theft.
  2. Directly cut benefits for current and/or future seniors. This is similar to Point 1 except benefits are being directly diminished instead of increasingly taxed.
  3. Means-test Social Security and Medicare. While a popular option for both Republicans and Democrats, it would take away retirement monies from wealthier seniors who were promised the same benefits as everyone else.
  4. Raise the retirement age for those receiving Social Security and Medicare. Average life expectancy for 65-year old Americans is over 40% greater than that of 65-year old Americans in 1940, yet the retirement age has yet to increase by even one year since that time. Unfortunately, raising the retirement age for anyone who has paid into the program – and especially for older workers – is to change the unwritten promise around which people organize their retirement plans.

 

(Note: Other options are available, and popular in certain circles, for reform. One of these is the partial or full privatization of Social Security to be received by seniors. This would not be stealing, but it is for all intents and purposes very politically difficult, if the 2005 failure of then-President Bush’s partial privatization plan to get through a GOP-controlled Congress is any indication. Payment reform related to greater efficiencies in Medicare is also often discussed and would not be stealing. This was included in the Patient Protection & Affordable Care Act, but those reforms are still in the experimental stage and thus their impact is as of yet unknown. Medicare voucher proposals such as those in the House-passed budget proposal are also of somewhat experimental value, and so far have received little Democratic support.)

Given the fiscal impossibility of maintaining retirement benefits as they currently stand, how should this theft be enacted? Is it right to take from current seniors, who are in the middle of retirement but who are also much wealthier as compared to younger people? Is it right to take from middle-aged people, who are years from retirement but have spent decades preparing for it with expectations of certain levels of federally-funded retirement dollars? Or should the focus of reforms be on young Americans, who have more time to change personal habits and prepare financially for lower benefits…but who as the Debt-Paying Generation are likely to face dire employment and other financial challenges that could prevent them from having the kinds of financial means in retirement today’s seniors possess?

Options abound for how to fix the programs, but in the final calculation stealing is likely to be most or all of the answer. Whether it be the financial collapse of Social Security and Medicare with no changes (thus stealing from all citizens), raising taxes on the wealthy or means-testing benefits (thus targeting the most successful of us for doing nothing intrinsically wrong or illegal) or increasing the retirement age for all recipients (thus forcing people to work for more years before receiving benefits), the federal government’s retirement promise to America’s citizens is going to significantly change in the next two decades. The only question that remains is to whom that promise will be broken, and how drastic the break will be.

To clarify: from a strictly legal perspective, the federal government is not actually stealing from seniors by doing any of the above. The original language of the legislation which created Social Security, for example, stated “The right to alter, amend, or repeal any provision of this Act is hereby reserved to the Congress.” Additionally, the 1960 Supreme Court case Flemming vs. Nestor declared that American taxpayers are indeed not legally entitled to the dollars they think they are. However, the implicit promise still exists, if the language of politicians and special interest groups is to be believed, and most Americans believe they are indeed entitled to receiving retirement dollars for which they have been taxed. Use of the word “stealing” is thus applied more from a moral, ethical and “if it weren’t Congress it would be illegal” perspective.

[This was originally published at Right Wing News.]

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canopfor on May 12, 2013 at 1:55 AM

Night Canada. :) Thanks for the link, in particular. :) Have a great mother’s day weekend.

Axe on May 12, 2013 at 1:56 AM

Axe:And,you too:)

canopfor on May 12, 2013 at 1:58 AM

Later on, y’all.

Till next time…

either orr on May 12, 2013 at 1:58 AM

My brain’s relaxed.

Axe on May 12, 2013 at 1:33 AM

FIFY

Resist We Much on May 12, 2013 at 1:59 AM

Sorry to have missed you Dire. Good Evening to you as well. ; ) I think I was sleeping.

Bmore on May 12, 2013 at 2:02 AM

Nite Canop!
Wish Mrs Canop
a Happy Mothers Day!

bazil9 on May 12, 2013 at 2:05 AM

canopfor on May 12, 2013 at 1:55 AM Enjoyed it as always..Later Friend..:)

Dire Straits on May 12, 2013 at 2:05 AM

My brain’s relaxed.

Axe on May 12, 2013 at 1:33 AM

FIFY

Resist We Much on May 12, 2013 at 1:59 AM

At least nothing’s hyphenated. (Twitter). :)

Want me to cook you a special dinner tomorrow? You’ll have to come and get it, though. I’m not driving 50,000 miles. :)

I would, of course. I just can’t afford the gas. Apparently — come to find out — they limit the amount of plasma they’ll buy from you, even in an emergency. Something about it being unhealthy to go without it. I dunno. I don’t make the rules. They also won’t let you sell anyone else’s, no matter how many homeless people are around.

Axe on May 12, 2013 at 2:06 AM

Eye have 1 eye open..
time to go grip my pillow tight.
Exit light.

Nite y’all.
Happy Mother’s Day to all the moms..
You sure do deserve it!

buh bye.

bazil9 on May 12, 2013 at 2:07 AM

“A bedrock principle of U.S. democracy is that the coercive powers of government are never used for partisan purpose. The law is blind to political viewpoint, and so are its enforcers, most especially the FBI and the Internal Revenue Service. Any violation of this principle threatens the trust and the voluntary cooperation of citizens upon which this democracy depends.”

We are a Nation of Laws…

… or we are not.

Make your choice and contact your elected representative and let them know if you agree or disagree…

… It’s up to you!

Seven Percent Solution on May 12, 2013 at 2:12 AM

buh bye.

bazil9 on May 12, 2013 at 2:07 AM

Night b9. :)

Later on, y’all.

Till next time…

either orr on May 12, 2013 at 1:58 AM

*eyes potential replacement suspiciously*

Axe on May 12, 2013 at 2:12 AM

Last Axe standing?

Going to go stare at my very own Predictable History, Unpredictable Past page, which is some sort of comment about my temporary inability to speak action sounds, which was, like, totally exaggerated, and only lasted a couple of weeks, only lasted while this and that caught up with each other and everything. I was taken off-guard. <- hyphenated

Then, feeling like the king of the world — she made me a page :) — I'm going to pass out beneath Twelfth Night.

And the only reason I get to tell you all this detail is because most of you froods have passed out, what with the wimpiness, and now I get to tell you what I’m really thinking, and you have to take it, what with the wimpiness. :) Not applicable to lurkers.

Happy Mother’s Day, moms.

Night Resist. Sleep tight. Try not to drool so much. :) But it’s OK when you do, so don’t sweat it.

Night everyone.

Axe on May 12, 2013 at 2:45 AM

Axe,

Your very own predicthistpredictpast page! :) That made me smile.

I’m still up because I’ve been baking gingerbread tonight, and I’ve a few more dishes. I came back to take a break. My son is here for Mother’s Day. This coming Saturday he’s getting married, and it’s so nice to have him here. I make killer gingerbread, and it’s a favorite of my kids. It’s my parting gift of motherly love to him before next weekend. :)

INC on May 12, 2013 at 3:09 AM

I thought the IRS hired 15,000 new employees. Why couldn’t they handle a few extra applications??? Or were those just brown shirts they hired?

txhsmom on May 12, 2013 at 3:19 AM

So then, I take it I’m late? Oh well, better luck tomorrow.

txhsmom on May 12, 2013 at 3:24 AM

Replace the intrusive, anti-American—frankly, fascist—IRS income tax regime with a national sales tax, and poof, no more IRS. Seriously, this is not a pipe-dream, taxes will still be collected and everything will be fine—much better, actually—revenue will increase because of the tremendous weight of corruption that will be lifted from The Peoples shoulders. The wealth gap between the rich and poor will begin to tighten again. The efficiency of American society would skyrocket dramatically once the IRS and all of the costs of compliance are ended. Even some of the cronies would benefit, although probably to a lesser extent than IRS corruption, or else the money people who buy our government wouldn’t fight us on this. No more corrupt, crony, unpatriotic, oppressive big-government Goliath intruding into our private lives where it doesn’t belong in a free country.

While the D and R establishments and their cronies, (many of the same cronies on both sides), rely on IRS corruption to ‘feed the pig’ and will fight attempts to terminate the IRS, they are only a small minority of the people overall. Getting rid of the IRS is not an extremist position. Washington State, for one, is a relatively successful state and I don’t believe has ever had an income tax. The government class in DC and their MSM cronies will call this extremist but the new media will shine through their propaganda BS, (which is also what’s forcing them to report on Benghazi and the IRS corruption scandal). The tea party and liberty movements will win with this issue because the overwhelming share of the American People will be on our side. Before long most people will realize it’s the ruling class that are the extremists and, with some reminders, that most of the opposition in the beltway is from crooked politicians and their cronies.

I think that if we make one of the main issues of the ’14 election getting rid of the crooked IRS and replacing it with a national sales tax with Tim Eymanesque safeguards, the tea party and liberty movements will win in another landslide.

But beware: the ruling class will know that their opposition to reform is tenuous in light of this IRS scandal and will play along—but only for a while. The GOP, and some Democrats will pretend to be out for IRS blood to try to appease the masses for most it will be a ruse, they will not easily surrender their IRS gestapo powers over the American people. They will have to be dragged kicking and screaming all the way to the cliff and several will have to be, figuratively speaking, thrown over the edge before the rest will finally give in. If they don’t then the American people need to throw them all over the edge. While some of the individual investigators of the IRS corruption scandal in Congress may be sincere, others will work so that the investigations drag on and on and turn up little if anything. There are several Republicans that have exposed themselves lately, they need to be Primaried, and it’s not necessary to wait until congressional investigations of this scandal are complete to begin the effort to eliminate the corrupt IRS and change to the national sales tax.

FloatingRock on May 12, 2013 at 3:29 AM

If we terminate the IRS I bet the suicide rate will be substantially reduced.

FloatingRock on May 12, 2013 at 3:35 AM

One of the excuses that crooked politicians will use to justify IRS gestapo powers over us is that otherwise it would make the War on Drugs harder because money laundering might be harder to detect. My answer to that is it’s long past time to end the War on Drugs, especially if it requires the IRS gestapo.

FloatingRock on May 12, 2013 at 3:47 AM

A bedrock principle of U.S. democracy is that the coercive powers of government are never used for partisan purpose

“…never used for political purposes…”

Fixed that!

Don L on May 12, 2013 at 5:15 AM

Death is a part of life and we have to make life a part of death.

That’s such a nonsensical and shameless statement dredged up to rationalize using people as throwaways …

First they came for the unborn….

Don L on May 12, 2013 at 5:32 AM

Hmmmm….

“CBS News President David Rhodes and ABC News President Ben Sherwood, both of them have siblings that not only work at the White House, that not only work for President Obama, but they work at the NSC on foreign policy issues directly related to Benghazi…”

So stated political consultant and media commentator Richard Grenell on Saturday’s Fox News Watch (video follows with transcript and commentary):

RICHARD GRENELL: I think the media’s becoming the story, let’s face it. CBS News President David Rhodes and ABC News President Ben Sherwood, both of them have siblings that not only work at the White House, that not only work for President Obama, but they work at the NSC on foreign policy issues directly related to Benghazi. Let’s call a spade a spade.

Let’s also show you why CNN did not go very far in covering these hearings because the CNN deputy bureau chief, Virginia Moseley, is married to Hillary Clinton’s deputy, Tom Nides. It is time for the media to start asking questions why are they not covering this. It’s a family matter for some of them.

JON SCOTT, HOST: So they don’t want to bring embarrassment upon folks who, who they’re close to?

GRENELL: Who directly are related to this story. Absolutely. They’re covering for them. There’s no question about it.

For the record, Ben Sherwood’s sister, Dr. Elizabeth Sherwood-Randall, is the Special Assistant to Barack Obama.

Virginia Moseley’s husband, Tom Nides, is the Deputy Secretary of State for Management and Resources.

Presidents of ABC and CBS News Have Siblings Working at White House With Ties to Benghazi

As for David Rhodes’ brother Ben, he is Obama’s Deputy National Security Advisor for Strategic Communication.

As ABCNews.com reported Friday, Rhodes was a key player in revising the White House’s Benghazi talking points last September:

Consider, too, that CBS News executives possibly including Rhodes have allegedly come down on their own investigative reporter Sharyl Attkisson for “wading dangerously close to advocacy on” Benghazi.

If Attkisson gets the boot, it could very well be with a foot attached to the brother of an Obama administration official directly involved in the cover-up…”

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/05/11/fox-abc-and-cbs-news-presidents-have-siblings-working-white-house-tie#ixzz2T4Q7xohm

workingclass artist on May 12, 2013 at 5:51 AM

workingclass artist on May 12, 2013 at 5:51 AM

absolutely incredible. Why doesn’t the Republican controlled congress investigate this?

renalin on May 12, 2013 at 6:39 AM

renalin on May 12, 2013 at 6:39 AM

squishy

cmsinaz on May 12, 2013 at 7:51 AM

O/T: National Biometric Database Hidden in Immigration Bill
Everybody sing: “I’ve got this feeling somebody’s watching me…”
My take.

kingsjester on May 12, 2013 at 8:21 AM

Joe Scarborough?…LOL..Please, he’s one of the least credible sources possible.

DevilsPrinciple on May 12, 2013 at 10:58 AM

Shall we hold Democrats to their own standards?

’He has, through his subordinated and agents, endeavored…to cause, in violation of the constitutional rights of citizens, income tax audits or other income tax investigation to be initiated or conducted in a discriminatory manner,’

— Section 1, Article 2, the impeachment articles of Richard Nixon.

Drafted by House Democrats with Hillary Clinton on staff, btw

Anil Petra on May 12, 2013 at 8:44 PM

Unless drastic changes are made very soon, can anyone seriously deny that Obamacare’s Death Panels will be used to deny health care to political opponents?

landlines on May 13, 2013 at 1:42 AM

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