Boston Globe: Documents “raise further questions” about Warren’s story on ancestry

posted at 12:01 pm on May 25, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Elizabeth Warren might have hoped to scare off more media inquiries into her claims of Native American ancestry as a career boost yesterday, but today’s front page of the Boston Globe makes it clear the problem isn’t going away — and in fact might get worse.  Warren has insisted that she only cited her supposed Cherokee ancestry once at Harvard to meet others like herself, even though there is no evidence she took steps to socialize among other Native Americans at Harvard.  A Globe review of documentation suggests that Harvard and/or Warren repeatedly made those claims, and that even if Warren had believed herself to be 1/32nd Cherokee, she wouldn’t have met the definition for inclusion (via Politico’s Morning Blast e-mail):

US Senate candidate Elizabeth Warren has said she was unaware that Harvard Law School had been promoting her purported Native American heritage until she read about it in a newspaper several weeks ago.

But for at least six straight years during Warren’s tenure, Harvard University reported in federally mandated diversity statistics that it had a Native American woman in its senior ranks at the law school. According to both Harvard officials and federal guidelines, those statistics are almost always based on the way employees describe themselves.

In addition, both Harvard’s guidelines and federal regulations for the statistics lay out a specific definition of Native American that Warren does not meet.

The documents suggest for the first time that either Warren or a Harvard administrator classified her repeatedly as Native American in papers prepared for the government in a way that apparently did not adhere to federal diversity guidelines. They raise further questions about Warren’s statements that she was unaware Harvard was promoting her as Native American.

The Globe presents a balanced look at both sides of the argument, but farther down into the piece comes to the crux of the problem regarding Warren’s identification as “a woman of color” based on Native American background, whether the “family lore” was accurate or not:

The Harvard document defines Native American as “a person having origins in any of the original peoples of North America and who maintains cultural identification through tribal affiliation or community recognition.’’ It notes that this definition is consistent with federal regulations.

It is not a definition Warren appears to fit. She has not proven she has a Native American ancestor, instead saying she based her belief on family lore, and she has no official tribal affiliation. The current executive director of Harvard’s Native American program has said she has no memory of Warren participating in any of its activities.

I’ve written about the perverse incentives and ridiculous outcomes of programs that divide people by ancestry for professional gain, so I won’t revisit that here.  Suffice it to say that any program that ends up hailing the very pale Elizabeth Warren as Harvard Law’s only “woman of color” has amply discredited itself simply on the basis of common sense already.

Politically speaking, the Globe story and its prominence creates a big problem for Warren.  While the story remained the province of the Boston Herald, Warren could shrug it off as an attack on her family by her opponent Scott Brown and his allies.  There is no way to include the Boston Globe among Brown’s allies, however, and the front-page treatment of the issue and the strong implication above the jump that Warren has been dishonest will damage her prospects.  Warren will need to keep addressing this, and will eventually have to explain why she didn’t adhere to the standard Harvard put in place for claims of Native American ancestry — which was intended, let’s not forget, to help those disadvantaged by their cultural separation from mainstream America.

Harvard has some questions to answer, too.  The final paragraph of the story reveals the hypocrisy at Harvard over their claims of diversity:

Brown has called on Harvard to release records that could shed light on how Warren and the school classified her heritage. But the law school bans divulging personal information about its employees, including race or ethnicity.

Really? Let’s hear an explanation that squares that policy with their repeated and very public claims of diversity based on that information.

Update: Michael Patrick Leahy has more on the “woman of color” angle at Breitbart:

Breitbart News has uncovered exclusive new evidence that in the spring of 1993, three years before Harvard Law School first publicly stated she was “a woman of color,” Elizabeth Warren likely made that claim while teaching at Harvard, and at approximately the same time the faculty was considering her for a tenured position. Warren, now running for the Democratic nomination for U.S. Senate in Massachusetts, told Politico as recently as May 15 that she had “no idea” why a Harvard Law School spokesman called her a “woman of color” in a 1996 Harvard Crimson article and a 1997 Fordham Law Review article. However, a 1993 issue of the Harvard Women’s Law Journal suggests that she knew very well indeed.

An article, “Women of Color in Legal Academia: A Biographic and Bibliographic Guide,” which was published by the Harvard Women’s Law Journal (since renamed the Harvard Journal of Law and Gender) in its Spring 1993 edition (Volume 16), lists Warren as one of approximately 250 “women of color” in legal academia.

Looks like there was a lot of promotion of Warren’s status going on.  How likely would it have been that Warren had no knowledge of it?


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When you’ve lost the Globe…

H.E. Pennypacker on May 25, 2012 at 12:05 PM

she is a liar who pushed someone else out of their slot, thats it. But for the left that means nothing, the fact that she gamed the system so well is something to be saluted by progressives, not disdained.

rob verdi on May 25, 2012 at 12:05 PM

Follow Elizabeth Warren on PaleFacebook.

raccoonradio on May 25, 2012 at 12:05 PM

The strangest things sink an election.

Spelling potato

Tripping out of a plane

Putting American into the worst recession in it’s history, with record energy prices, record unemployment.

right2bright on May 25, 2012 at 12:06 PM

Pow Wow Chow!

newtopia on May 25, 2012 at 12:06 PM

Follow Elizabeth Warren on PaleFacebook.

raccoonradio on May 25, 2012 at 12:05 PM

Tee hee!

radjah shelduck on May 25, 2012 at 12:11 PM

Nothing like watching liberals choke on their own hypocrisy.

GarandFan on May 25, 2012 at 12:11 PM

Yeah someone texted that to (Boston talk host) Howie Carr yesterday (or maybe it was on the chumpline)

raccoonradio on May 25, 2012 at 12:11 PM

but today’s front page of the Boston Globe makes it clear the problem isn’t going away — and in fact might get worse

Oh good!

Tim_CA on May 25, 2012 at 12:13 PM

Avi Nelson was filling in. :D

Rich on May 25, 2012 at 12:13 PM

Maybe the Dems think they can co-opt Scott Brown more than having Fauxcahontas in there to embarrass them.

Rixon on May 25, 2012 at 12:13 PM

right2bright on May 25, 2012 at 12:06 PM

A photo-op in a tank

Spannerhead on May 25, 2012 at 12:13 PM

This story isnt about Elizabeth Warren’s ethnicity. It is about her abusing affirmative action programs for her own benefit.

That is why this story wont die.

William Amos on May 25, 2012 at 12:14 PM

But.. But… Scott Brown is swinging a hammer! Or something…

J.H. on May 25, 2012 at 12:15 PM

But… but… family lore! Family Lore!

de rigueur on May 25, 2012 at 12:15 PM

Follow Elizabeth Warren on PaleFacebook.
raccoonradio on May 25, 2012 at 12:05 PM

Literally, literally, LOL!!!

Akzed on May 25, 2012 at 12:15 PM

I bet she cries at night now, and has dreams of walking around naked.

No sexual inference here. Dreams of being undressed in public are thought to represent feelings of being exposed.

BobMbx on May 25, 2012 at 12:17 PM

If she is on the ballot in MA, and this keeps up…

Is it too much to hope that Mitt Romney takes MA, on the weight of Liddy Warren drowning a Democratic ticket? That’s too much to hope for, right?

Right?

JohnGalt23 on May 25, 2012 at 12:17 PM

Democrats have no problem with liars. See United States Senator Richard Blumenthal.

ktrich on May 25, 2012 at 12:17 PM

“Documents, we talkin’ bout stinkin’ documents”

Elizabeth Warren-Iverson…

hillsoftx on May 25, 2012 at 12:19 PM

Hey!!!!!

High Cheekbones dammit!!!11!

Tim_CA on May 25, 2012 at 12:19 PM

Doesn’t say much for Harvard Law School. But, then again, the made our Doofus in Chief their first “Editor of Color” even though he couldn’t and didn’t write anything coherent that I can tell.

Celebrate Diversity.

AcidReflux on May 25, 2012 at 12:20 PM

I really have to stop at the store on the way home. Supply of popcorn is running low.

DuctTapeMyBrain on May 25, 2012 at 12:20 PM

Princess Forked Tongue

petefrt on May 25, 2012 at 12:20 PM

Dreams of being undressed in public are thought to represent feelings of being exposed. BobMbx on May 25, 2012 at 12:17 PM

Really? I don’t see the connection.

Akzed on May 25, 2012 at 12:21 PM

If she is on the ballot in MA, and this keeps up…

Is it too much to hope that Mitt Romney takes MA, on the weight of Liddy Warren drowning a Democratic ticket? That’s too much to hope for, right?

Right?

JohnGalt23 on May 25, 2012 at 12:17 PM

She is going to change her name to “two dogs f’ing” right before the election. The Massholes won’t notice.

VegasRick on May 25, 2012 at 12:21 PM

…that woman is such a dingbat…she might just go for a car ride with a campaign worker… drive off a bridge…and swim to shore by herself…just to change the subject!

KOOLAID2 on May 25, 2012 at 12:22 PM

Liars are usually the last one to see the light, and it is usually in the form of a train coming down the track they are standing squarely in the middle of..

RockyJ. on May 25, 2012 at 12:22 PM

HA trolls, and lefties, who are for the exploitation of Native Americans, say “it’s nothin’; move on righties”.

Schadenfreude on May 25, 2012 at 12:25 PM

Follow Elizabeth Warren on PaleFacebook.

raccoonradio on May 25, 2012 at 12:05 PM

Thread Winner!

Rixon on May 25, 2012 at 12:26 PM

There is no way to include the Boston Globe among Brown’s allies, however, and the front-page treatment of the issue and the strong implication above the jump that Warren has been dishonest will damage her prospects

As a former Bostonian, I’m stunned that the Globe wrote a piece like this and put it on the front page. My gut is telling me that the Globe just gave liberals permission to abandon Warren. It probably won’t happen, since my gut is wrong as much as its right. But, the Globe didn’t have to write this story. So…

joejm65 on May 25, 2012 at 12:26 PM

Democrats have no problem with liars. See United States Senator Richard Blumenthal.

ktrich on May 25, 2012 at 12:17 PM

See US history 1789-2012

Rixon on May 25, 2012 at 12:27 PM

Dreams of being undressed in public are thought to represent feelings of being exposed.

BobMbx on May 25, 2012 at 12:17 PM

Mine were always a panicked search through my empty locker for the homework I was supposed to turn in. Or showing up for the exam I completely unprepared to take. If her dreams are like that, I picture her searching under every skin and blanket in her teepee, rifling through a cigar box full of family daguerrotypes, searching for one scrap of documentation that proves her 1/32th claim to a Harvard faculty appointment.

de rigueur on May 25, 2012 at 12:27 PM

No sexual inference here. Dreams of being undressed in public are thought to represent feelings of being exposed.

BobMbx on May 25, 2012 at 12:17 PM

In her dreams, she’s an Indian squaw knifing Brown in the back.

Gladtobehere on May 25, 2012 at 12:28 PM

Really? Let’s hear an explanation that squares that policy with their repeated and very public claims of diversity based on that information.

Lets see Warren request that Harvard release the relevant documents. If I were unknowingly “erroneously counted” as something I was not, I’d be asking a few questions of those who did this. I suspect that whatever Harvard has will not help exonerate those of us who believe that this is exactly what it looks like. It is not pretty and points out the hypocrisy and fraud of a certain darling of the left with high cheekbones.

Happy Nomad on May 25, 2012 at 12:29 PM

HA trolls, and lefties, who are for the exploitation of Native Americans, say “it’s nothin’; move on righties”.

Schadenfreude on May 25, 2012 at 12:25 PM

The trolls rarely show up on these type of threads. I think the 1/32 of common sense they have somehow tells them not to.

VegasRick on May 25, 2012 at 12:29 PM

The key fact that hurts Warren is that she graduated from Rutgers Law School. People who graduate from Rutgers don’t teach at Harvard unless they fit some racial goal. That is just a fact of life in the world of Harvard Law School. Look it up. Almost 85% of the faculty graduated from Harvard and almost 98% graduated from a top 10 Law School.

She lied and everyone at Harvard knows she lied…Harvard will throw her under the bus shortly to save it’s reputation.

RedSoxNation on May 25, 2012 at 12:30 PM

Garry Trudeau hardest hit.

Mr. D on May 25, 2012 at 12:30 PM

Wonder how the more qualified candidates feel about her being hired over them that year…because she was a “Native American”. Seems she defrauded the University (per Federal guidelines) and screwed another person out of a job.

nextgen_repub on May 25, 2012 at 12:31 PM

Law of diminishing returns. She’s a fraud and a pathological liar, but it’s time to move on.

GOPRanknFile on May 25, 2012 at 12:33 PM

Why isn’t the other democrat in the primary getting any attention? It would appear that the democrats have a spare candidate they could throw their influence behind.

Marisa DeFranco.

Dr Evil on May 25, 2012 at 12:35 PM

Brown has called on Harvard to release records that could shed light on how Warren and the school classified her heritage. But the law school bans divulging personal information about its employees, including race or ethnicity

…..I don’t know about anybody else…but with over at least 70 Harvard alumni added to JugEar’s administration in the last few years… I AM MORE AND MORE IMPRESSED with a Harvard education!
…if you can pay…you get a degree?

KOOLAID2 on May 25, 2012 at 12:37 PM

Sorry, guys. Double standards aren’t the slightest concern to libs.

HB3 on May 25, 2012 at 12:37 PM

But.. But… Scott Brown is swinging a hammer! Or something…

J.H. on May 25, 2012 at 12:15 PM

Warren certainly took all the steam out of trying to recycle Brown’s 1982 Cosmo photos.

Happy Nomad on May 25, 2012 at 12:37 PM

I know nothing…
I know notheengggg….

pedestrian on May 25, 2012 at 12:38 PM

Nothing like watching liberals choke on their own hypocrisy.

GarandFan on May 25, 2012 at 12:11 PM

One of the Top-Rated (101 likes!) “Comments” at the Glob link:

I think this story is exhausted now. Warren checked a box based on some fragmentary stories from her family. Harvard administrators have been shepherding that info into various documents, documents that are of little practical significance. This is not the key piece of information explaining Warren’s academic career. Warren has performed a lot of valuable service already in her work on consumer protection, and evidently has been doing well in her career at Harvard. The choice of recipes submitted to an obscure cookbook edited by her cousin is also not the burning issue of our times.

Translated: “Warren did nothing wrong by Lying to Harvard. It’s All Harvard’s Fault for believing her Lies!”

More Leftist inanity follows:

Nothing but a distraction.

There are many questionable choices that Scott Brown made in his past, and the fact that he never saw deployment in the National Guard while being a politician almost his whole life, should raise eyebrows.

Be that as it may, I would rather focus on what type of representation each candidate would provide.

Elizabeth Warren is the clear choice over Scott Brown.

FYI the part of the second comment I bolded is a flat-out Lie; Scott Brown has deployed overseas several times as a National Guard member, including deployments to Kazahkstan and Afghanistan (the latter while serving as Senator). Likewise, Brown didn’t get into politics until years after he graduated from college. Contrast that with the other “Senator” from MA, who’s been in politics all his life.

Del Dolemonte on May 25, 2012 at 12:38 PM

Follow Elizabeth Warren on PaleFacebook.

raccoonradio on May 25, 2012 at 12:05 PM

This is why I read Hot Air. Great comments!

HiJack on May 25, 2012 at 12:39 PM

Seems she defrauded the University (per Federal guidelines) and screwed another person out of a job.

nextgen_repub on May 25, 2012 at 12:31 PM

Screwing other people out of jobs is what liberals do best.

She has also made it a lot harder to defend racial preferences any kind.

pedestrian on May 25, 2012 at 12:41 PM

She sounds like she would fit right in as Reid’s
Little injun

redguy on May 25, 2012 at 12:41 PM

Patrick Leahy is a disgrace to the Irish, not to mention a pompous ass. I look to the day that he and O’Reilly become smited. Then, and only then, my Irish eyes will smile.

kenny on May 25, 2012 at 12:42 PM

Whuh oh. Wherever it was I commented that the Globe was in the bag for Sacajawarren I’ll have to retract. Well, maybe. Even the NY Times’ farm team has to log a little nod to journalistic integrity occasionally. But golly the Boston Globe raising even these kinds of tiny negative sub-vibes about Warren? Is that allowed?

curved space on May 25, 2012 at 12:44 PM

“I’ve written about the perverse incentives and ridiculous outcomes of programs that divide people by ancestry for professional gain, so I won’t revisit that here.”

Thanks Ed…. no one wants to revisit that anyways.

Ms Warren is NO victim here!…She was manipulating the, albeit sorry-assed, system for her personal benefit!…And, in her words, SHE NEEDS TO BE HAMMERED FOR IT !!

ps: Millions played by the rules (such as they are).

BigSven on May 25, 2012 at 12:47 PM

I believe my ancestors might have scalped E. Warren’s ancestors.

kenny on May 25, 2012 at 12:48 PM

They raise further questions about Warren’s statements that she was unaware Harvard was promoting her as Native American.

Just two weeks after the Globe editors said Warren “has no further questions to answer.” Change…

rcpjr on May 25, 2012 at 12:49 PM

Doesn’t say much for Harvard Law School. But, then again, the made our Doofus in Chief their first “Editor of Color” even though he couldn’t and didn’t write anything coherent that I can tell.

Celebrate Diversity.

AcidReflux on May 25, 2012 at 12:20 PM

Speaking of Obama, here’s an interesting read:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2012/05/25/obama_is_not_that_bright_114271.html

The author reports that a blogger named Doug Ross interviewed some of Obama’s fellow law professors at the University of Chicago. Ross reports that the other professors considered Obama lazy, unqualified, and on the bottom rung of the faculty in terms of intellectual ability.

AZCoyote on May 25, 2012 at 12:54 PM

No sexual inference here. Dreams of being undressed in public are thought to represent feelings of being exposed.

BobMbx on May 25, 2012 at 12:17 PM

Not the Army I remember. Try standing for hrs in company area naked in 103 Temp with someone in a high booth above with megaphone telling you about your mother.

kenny on May 25, 2012 at 12:58 PM

OK, liberals, I will tell you why this is a story and an important one.

Reading all of these news accounts so far, and knowing what I already knew about Elizabeth Warren, it’s clear that she was never actually qualified to be a full professor at Harvard Law School. It is likely that she used a period of protest about HLS’s lack of female and minority faculty, and lied about her heritage, in order to obtain a tenured position at HLS. Her “consumer advocacy” research and writing would never have seen the light of day had she been a law professor at Texas or some other lesser law school. She used the stature of HLS and the Harvard network to push her tendentious, thinly sourced, and highly political “research” into the mainstream of financial services policy discussions. Her idea for a Consumer Financial Protection Bureau was first published in Harvard magazine in 2007. It’s highly doubtful this stupid idea would have garnered any attention at all, much less become a reality in just three years, had it been published in the Rutgers Law Journal.

Had she not fraudulently obtained a tenured position at HLS, she would never have become known for anything, would never have been a resident of Massachusetts, would never have been part of the Obama Administration, and never been in a position to be a plausible candidate for the U.S. Senate.

She is a fraud, through and through. Her entire career arc is disgraceful. First she piggy-backed on her more famous and far more qualified husband, then she faked a minority status to get an affirmative-action appointment, then she parlayed that into undeserved fame as a consumer advocate. She should not only be thoroughly defeated in this Senate race, but she should be fired by Harvard and should never be on a law school faculty again.

rockmom on May 25, 2012 at 12:58 PM

PaleFacebook ?
Ham salad met iPad !
Thank you .

Lucano on May 25, 2012 at 1:02 PM

What we need to find, is a genuine minority that applied at the same time, and was rejected – the reason doesn’t matter.

That would be the icing on the cake.

Rebar on May 25, 2012 at 1:04 PM

Really? I don’t see the connection.

Akzed on May 25, 2012 at 12:21 PM

If you’re hiding something or feel unprepared or unqualified for something (a promotion, task leader, etc..), subconsciously you’ll be worried about being “discovered” and publicly humiliated.

For narcissists, these feelings can be overwhelming unless or until they convince themselves everyone else is wrong. Then it becomes pathological. Like Obama.

BobMbx on May 25, 2012 at 1:05 PM

Warren not only ‘gamed the system’, it appears that HARVARD colluded with her to rig the system to suit their own ends.

Harvard is one of the academic bastions of Progressive thought. How many lectures have we been regaled with from their tenured faculty about ‘economic justice’, ‘social justice’, ‘environmental justice’, ‘equality’, ‘fairness’ and ‘racism’? For that institution to have willfully calculated the use of the affirmative action programs ( which, by NOT following federal guidelines for what determines Native American heritage, they did) to selectively cultivate someone like Warren, is the epitome of hypocrisy, its as cynical as it gets, and it exposes a mindset and institutional culture that views the affirmative action program NOT as a tool to help those who’ve been separated from the mainstream American culture and who have suffered by that separation, but as a tool to garner federal funding for the institution, promote those whom THEY CHOOSE, whom the hiring committee’s believe are ideologically in tune with the institution, with no regard for those who’ve been truly disadvantaged.

Given Harvard’s position as a leader and promulgator of progressive ideals and of the progressive academic community, this cynical abuse of the affirmative action programs exposes the existence a larger and far more widespread problem within academia. The question becomes how many more Elizabeth Warrens are now holding positions across the nation at colleges and universities to which they were never entitled, and what can be done about this systemic abuse?

This is why I’ve always been in favor of hiring strictly on merit. The candidate with the best overall qualifications and who has out performed the competition should get the job. True dignity and self respect are born in achievements one has earned as an individual, not preferential treatment based on race, ethnicity, sexual orientation, or gender, creed or religion. As long as we enforce a ban on discrimination based on those factors, we should also enforce a ban on preference ( which IS discrimination) based on those factors.

We need to do away with selective discrimination. That’s what affirmative action programs are at BEST, and they’ve obviously now become a tool for self promotion at the individual level with a ruthless disregard for those for whom these programs were designed, and a tool for garnering federal funding at the institutional level, again with a callous regard for whom these programs were designed.

thatsafactjack on May 25, 2012 at 1:06 PM

Maybe, she should buy a truck.?.

Fallon on May 25, 2012 at 1:07 PM

Elizabeth Warren has created a whole new chapter in the story of “Democrats Will Say Anything To Fool You”.

Only in Warren’s case, I am wondering if she really knows what she’s saying whenever she’s saying anything. There’s room to consider here that she actually is out of touch completely with reality.

Has anyone asked her to draw a picture of a clock on a sheet of paper and then fold it in half? If so, what was her result?

Lourdes on May 25, 2012 at 1:09 PM

Not the Army I remember. Try standing for hrs in company area naked in 103 Temp with someone in a high booth above with megaphone telling you about your mother.

kenny on May 25, 2012 at 12:58 PM

Is that a dream or a fun time in boot camp? For those that have never been to boot camp, the differences can be subtle or non-existent.

BobMbx on May 25, 2012 at 1:10 PM

Harvard University reported in federally mandated diversity statistics

This is the worst part of all. That our feral government pushes this cr@p is insane and asinine. Harvard is certainly guilty of being the low-life slugs they obviously are, but this feral mandate for “diversity statistics” ought to outrage people even more. It should be exactly the OPPOSITE – any organization taking federal funds should not be looking at skin-counts in any way and certainly should not be forced by the feral government to do so, compile and report on it.

This is CRAZY.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 25, 2012 at 1:14 PM

BobMbx on May 25, 2012 at 1:10 PM

True story. It was fine. Best antidote to narcissism is Total Humiliation. From that one learns humility; the thing that all humans should seek.

kenny on May 25, 2012 at 1:15 PM

“How likely would it have been that Warren had no knowledge of it?”

Then let us bring up the issue of competency to be a United States Senator…

Seven Percent Solution on May 25, 2012 at 1:15 PM

rockmom on May 25, 2012 at 12:58 PM

Your narrative also applies quite appropriately to a certain candidate at the top of the ticket this year I’d say. Good job rockmom.

DanMan on May 25, 2012 at 1:17 PM

Too funny how the MSM dis-likes powerful women like Carly Fiorina and Meg Whittman but love bug eyed dolts like Nancy Pilosi and Warren. Gee, I wonder if it’s because of their politics?

Hummer53 on May 25, 2012 at 1:18 PM

I am not sure which of these three is more disgusting: (1) The fact that Elizabeth Warren greatly exaggerated (or completely fabricated) her “native american ancestry” to make herself an Afirmative Action hire or (2) The fact that Harvard Law School eagerly took such non-existent documentation as “proof” of her “woman of color” status, for the purposes of making its faculty look more “diverse”, or (3) the fact that you can get hiring preferences based upon your “racial origin”.

How can liberals claim that they are against racism when they not only practice it, but force others to practice it? What the he!! happened to “not the color of their skin but the content of their character”?

SubmarineDoc on May 25, 2012 at 1:18 PM

thatsafactjack on May 25, 2012 at 1:06 PM

Of course, this SHOULD be a major scandal in academia. But it won’t be. The affirmative-action racket has been going on too long, it has infected even the hiring of University presidents and Law School deans.

Anyone think a man with Drew Faust’s resume would have been named President of Harvard? I happen to like her but I thought she was grossly underqualified, especially given Harvard’s serious financial and academic problems when she was hired.

The current President of UPenn is another hack liberal female.

It’s gotten to the point where I don’t trust the qualifications or abilities of any woman who is appointed head of a major university or graduate school. It’s all window-dressing.

rockmom on May 25, 2012 at 1:19 PM

Follow Elizabeth Warren on PaleFacebook.

raccoonradio on May 25, 2012 at 12:05 PM

Pretty dang funny.

1st, this isn’t going away if the Globe ran a story now. That’s great for Brown because he doesn’t look like the “bully” with the story getting a few more days of life.

2nd, the bottom line is if she’s reduced to telling a reporter that her claim to Native American ancestry is her Mom or Grandmother telling her, her status at Harvard is bogus.

(And it actual documents come to light about her getting in a school on claiming that status…)

Did it ever get determined one way or the other if she did.

hawkdriver on May 25, 2012 at 1:22 PM

Harvard will throw her under the bus shortly to save it’s reputation.

RedSoxNation on May 25, 2012 at 12:30 PM

Reputation?

They are responsible for Barack Obama.

In order of preference, I hope my children go to:

1) Clown college
2) Barber college
3) Harvard College

NoDonkey on May 25, 2012 at 1:22 PM

racoonradio wins it!!

ted c on May 25, 2012 at 1:23 PM

Not the Army I remember. Try standing for hrs in company area naked in 103 Temp with someone in a high booth above with megaphone telling you about your mother.

kenny on May 25, 2012 at 12:58 PM

Sounds like a compound near Camp MacKall.

hawkdriver on May 25, 2012 at 1:25 PM

Hey…

…has anyone read the book reviews at Amazon for Pow Wow Chow?

There have been several recent additions.

trapeze on May 25, 2012 at 1:28 PM

Harvard was once a seat of learning. Now a site of liberal squirming.

kenny on May 25, 2012 at 1:28 PM

There is nobody in this country who got rich on his own — nobody.

– Elizabeth Warren

Liz, can you spell “projection”?

beancounter on May 25, 2012 at 1:28 PM

Oh, and let’s not forget that other beneficiary of Harvard affirmative action, now known as Justice Kagan. She was grossly unqualified to be Dean of Harvard Law School, but that was the main qualification used to appoint her Solicitor General and then justify putting her on the Supreme Court. I do think she is very smart, and by all accounts she was a good professor of law, but many great professors never even become municipal court judges, much less Supreme Court justices.

rockmom on May 25, 2012 at 1:29 PM

Sounds like a compound near Camp MacKall.

hawkdriver on May 25, 2012 at 1:25 PM

Ft Leonard Wood

kenny on May 25, 2012 at 1:29 PM

…that woman is such a dingbat…she might just go for a car ride with a campaign worker… drive off a bridge…and swim to shore by herself…just to change the subject!

KOOLAID2 on May 25, 2012 at 12:22 PM

Maybe she should start out with just having an affair with a women. Being the first openly bisexual or lesbian Senator might work in Massachusetts. Hey, it didn’t stop Barney Frank. Why not Elizabeth Warren?

Gladtobehere on May 25, 2012 at 1:29 PM

Not the Army I remember. Try standing for hrs in company area naked in 103 Temp with someone in a high booth above with megaphone telling you about your mother.

kenny on May 25, 2012 at 12:58 PM

And I remember at Navy Officers Indoctrination School at Newport Rhode Island, when the sunday buffet at the O-club ran out of lobster bisque . . .

NoDonkey on May 25, 2012 at 1:31 PM

rockmom on May 25, 2012 at 1:29 PM

And Kagan perjured herself at her confirmation hearings – which the Senate GOP should have blocked for all sorts of other reasons, as they should have blocked the utterly offensive nomination of the empathetic, wise Latina … but they were too scared to.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 25, 2012 at 1:32 PM

Ft Leonard Wood

kenny on May 25, 2012 at 1:29 PM

Ah.

hawkdriver on May 25, 2012 at 1:33 PM

(And it actual documents come to light about her getting in a school on claiming that status…)

Did it ever get determined one way or the other if she did.

hawkdriver on May 25, 2012 at 1:22 PM

Read the whole Breitbart story, it’s obvious she told Harvard she was Native American from the start, it’s more than likely how she got her initial one-year adjunct appointment and almost certainly why she got the tenured faculty position.

rockmom on May 25, 2012 at 1:33 PM

And I remember at Navy Officers Indoctrination School at Newport Rhode Island, when the sunday buffet at the O-club ran out of lobster bisque . . .

NoDonkey on May 25, 2012 at 1:31 PM

No kidding. Life really sucks.

kenny on May 25, 2012 at 1:35 PM

rockmom on May 25, 2012 at 1:33 PM

I wasn’t clear. An early question was if she had actually been accepted to school under a minority preference. Has that ever been established.

hawkdriver on May 25, 2012 at 1:35 PM

Elizabeth Warren likely made that claim while teaching at Harvard

Some enterprising New Media reporter might scour her class lists and find someone who saved the notebook in which he jotted a line to the effect that she crowed about it in class: “Professor Warren mentions her Cherokee ethnicity yet again and then breaks into a medley of Mark Lindsay’s ‘Indian Reservation’ and The Cowsills’ ‘Indian Lake’”

curved space on May 25, 2012 at 1:37 PM

NoDonkey on May 25, 2012 at 1:31 PM

No kidding. Life really sucks.

kenny on May 25, 2012 at 1:35 PM

I know, right? I remember going from being SGT (E5) to being treated like a PVT for a year at Ft. Rucker. There wasn’t any bisque in LA I don’t think.

hawkdriver on May 25, 2012 at 1:38 PM

Recently when asked if she were a “Native American” Warren deliberately sidestepped the question, by default, doubling down on her claim. Not that it will make any differences in MaryJochusetts.

MaiDee on May 25, 2012 at 1:40 PM

I wasn’t clear. An early question was if she had actually been accepted to school under a minority preference. Has that ever been established.

hawkdriver on May 25, 2012 at 1:35 PM

I don’t believe so, she went to a garden-variety college and Rutgers Law School. She didn’t need affirmative action to get into those. Nobody is suggesting she isn’t smart enough to get a law degree or even teach law, just that she wasn’t top-tier law school material. She is the only graduate of Rutgers Law to ever get a tenured appointment at any Ivy League law school. Go take a look at the HLS website and see where their faculty hail from. One of these things is not like the other.

That’s what actually makes this so bad. She discovered her supposed Native American ancestry only when she realized it would help her advance her career. Sort of like Barack Obama inventing his “Kenyan birth” to help him sell his book about race in America.

rockmom on May 25, 2012 at 1:41 PM

rockmom on May 25, 2012 at 1:41 PM

Thanks Rockmom.

hawkdriver on May 25, 2012 at 1:43 PM

Some enterprising New Media reporter might scour her class lists and find someone who saved the notebook in which he jotted a line to the effect that she crowed about it in class: “Professor Warren mentions her Cherokee ethnicity yet again and then breaks into a medley of Mark Lindsay’s ‘Indian Reservation’ and The Cowsills’ ‘Indian Lake’”

curved space on May 25, 2012 at 1:37 PM

It’s already been established by New Media that she has never participated in any activities or events of the Harvard Native American students group. So I doubt she ever mentioned it in class.

rockmom on May 25, 2012 at 1:44 PM

There wasn’t any bisque in LA I don’t think

I will tell you what. No bisque, no Warrior, at least the French would say. By the way, where are the much ballyhooded French Foreign Legion. Back to marrying the likes of John Kerry?

kenny on May 25, 2012 at 1:44 PM

My favorite fact in both of these articles is that it took Warren’s poor husband 11 years to get appointed to the HLS faculty, despite his far superior academic and faculty credentials and research. At one time he was a rock star in legal academia, yet because he was a white male Harvard wasn’t interested. Lizzy only got her job at UPenn because they wanted him so badly and he insisted that they hire her. That was part of her “golden ticket” that got her to Harvard, but it wasn’t enough given that they surely knew the circumstances of her hiring at UPenn.

rockmom on May 25, 2012 at 1:48 PM

Speaking of Obama, here’s an interesting read:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2012/05/25/obama_is_not_that_bright_114271.html

The author reports that a blogger named Doug Ross interviewed some of Obama’s fellow law professors at the University of Chicago. Ross reports that the other professors considered Obama lazy, unqualified, and on the bottom rung of the faculty in terms of intellectual ability.

AZCoyote on May 25, 2012 at 12:54 PM

Interesting read.

Even more interesting are the angry O’bama Fluffers responding in the Comments:

“Pat” checks in:

Wow, what an amazing display of petty, pathetic journalism. The entire article is based on weak assumptions, innuendo, conjecture, hersay, conjecture, more conjecture. This article would have never gone past the efitor’s desk 20 years ago, when people wrote articles with honest inquiry and incredulousness based on solid facts and logical inferences. This piece of crap is so conspicuously partisan and dishonest. How can you call yourself a real writer? Can we have any honest discussions based on legitimate hypothesis? Any of you who buy into this should realize how dumb the writer thinks you are, you are being manipulated.

Immediate response?

Loved you on Saturday Night Live! It’s Pat..

Mr. Kelly has just proven that he’s in the same class with another brilliant conservative “journalist” – Sean Hannity!

This is the most pathetic drivel I have ever read but from what I’ve seen that’s par for the course for this “news” paper. Just admit it, you old white guys, it’s the inferiority thing isn’t it? You can’t stand the fact that he is a decent guy who people like and you will do any despicable thing you can to tear him down.

What a joke you are.

Del Dolemonte on May 25, 2012 at 1:49 PM

Indeed, the Lore is an Ass.

spiritof61 on May 25, 2012 at 1:50 PM

As I sit back and watch this story continue to unfold, I can’t help but to think that it’s time to revolt against all these programs that supposedly give preference to those that have somehow been disadvantaged.

Now as a white male in my mid 60s, I’ve watched this sideshow (and been victimized by the inherent discrimination – or is that reverse discrimination) for more than forty years.

Perhaps it’s time that we all choose one of the disadvantaged groups whenever we fill out any application, and encourage our children and grandchildren to do the same.

Can you imagine the college admission office’s dilemma when every applicant is one minority or another?

mike in NV on May 25, 2012 at 1:50 PM

Maybe, she should buy a truck.?.

Fallon on May 25, 2012 at 1:07 PM

With her native tact it would be a Jeep Cherokee.

spiritof61 on May 25, 2012 at 1:57 PM

It’s already been established by New Media that she has never participated in any activities or events of the Harvard Native American students group. So I doubt she ever mentioned it in class.

rockmom on May 25, 2012 at 1:44 PM

Possibly not, but the fantasy of finding such a notebook page was heap plenty big enough set-up for a joke with Boomer cultural references to white bread pop groups singing songs about Indians.

Cheers.

curved space on May 25, 2012 at 1:57 PM

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