Romney: Why is Obama attacking capitalism?

posted at 12:01 pm on May 24, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

In other words, “Hey, let’s keep talking about Bain Capital!”  Mitt Romney proudly rolled out Bain’s investment history, in which their businesses succeeded in boosting profit and viability in 80% of the cases — keeping in mind that private-equity firms and especially Bain tend to focus on already-troubled firms.  Only 5% of their bets resulted in bankruptcy later, which is a rather remarkable record for a private-equity firm.  In attacking that kind of success, Romney argued on Fox News this morning, Barack Obama has resorted to nothing less than an attack on capitalism itself:

“With regards to Bain Capital, they just put a report out about their record, the Bain Capital guys did, they noted they’ve made about 350 investments since the beginning on the firm, and of those investments, about 80 percent grew their revenues. So I’m pretty confident that the overall record of the enterprise I helped begin is pretty solid,” Romney, the presumptive GOP presidential nominee, told Fox News.

In his comments, Romney was responding to three central criticisms forwarded by the Obama campaign this week: that Romney’s venture capital firm Bain Capital had exploited companies for the economic gain of executives, that Romney was advocating failed Bush-era economic policies, and that Romney had equated productivity with personal income to suggest Americans weren’t working hard enough.

The presumptive Republican nominee added that it “certainly sounds like” the president was attacking the free market system.

“There’s no question but that he’s attacking capitalism, in part I think because he doesn’t understand how the free economy works. He’s never had a job in the free economy, neither has Vice President Biden,” Romney said.

The best moment in this clip comes at the 20-second mark in the above clip, when Romney scoffs at Obama’s understanding of “productivity” in the economy.  Romney pronounces himself “amazed” at Obama’s ignorance on the topic after more than three years as President, and then patiently explains exactly what it means and why it matters.  It recalls Obama’s proclamation in 2009 about P/E ratios as “profits and earning ratios,” when in fact profits and earnings are the same thing, and P/E stands for price to earnings ratio, a measure of stock values.

Watch the full clip, though, because Fox and Friends also asks Romney about his pivot to education today:


Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney opened a new front on Wednesday in his fight against President Barack Obama, accusing him of presiding over a failing U.S. education system in the grip of union bosses who refuse to accept reforms.

In a rare diversion from his campaign focus on the weak economy, Romney laid out an education plan in a speech that represented his most overt appeal to date to Hispanic voters who have largely sided with the Democratic incumbent.

Although he trails Obama by a huge margin among Hispanics, Romney’s address to a Hispanic business group avoided mentioning a top priority for them: how to overhaul the country’s immigration system.

Romney said millions of American children are getting a “third-world education” and offered proposals that he said would reward teachers for their results instead of their seniority. And he would give parents greater choice of where to send their children to school and take other steps to reduce the influence of powerful teachers’ unions.

This is a smart strategy to use for Hispanic voters, many of whom have children locked into failing schools.  It offers a reason to consider the Republican Party and its national ticket while bolstering his standing among conservatives in the party.

Update: In answer to the question in the headline, Andrew Kaczynski produces a flier from an Obama appearance at a socialist rally in 1996, when Obama ran for the state legislature.


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hah, Calling Obama out as an economic ignoramus is actually quite clever.

rob verdi on May 24, 2012 at 12:03 PM

Easy – because Obummer HATES capitalism – he’s a socialist, if not a pure communist.

dentarthurdent on May 24, 2012 at 12:05 PM

“Always consider two factors before investing: The Risk and the Annual Expenses”

It appears Mitt has a great history of this…

Obama…
Not so much

Electrongod on May 24, 2012 at 12:05 PM

God help the GOP in November with this empty suit at the helm.

lostmotherland on May 24, 2012 at 12:05 PM

“There’s no question but that he’s attacking capitalism, in part I think because he doesn’t understand how the free economy works. He’s never had a job in the free economy, neither has Vice President Biden,” Romney said.

Ouch….

Even Julia has more experience…

Electrongod on May 24, 2012 at 12:06 PM

Why is Obama attacking capitalism? Because Obama is a Marxist…silly! and that’s what Marxist do.

Axion on May 24, 2012 at 12:06 PM

If capitalism were let run free there would be no Left to get in the way. (There would be plenty of whingers, but without power).

OldEnglish on May 24, 2012 at 12:07 PM

He’s attacking capitalism because he disagrees with capitalism.

Washington Nearsider on May 24, 2012 at 12:08 PM

Romney has just begun to slap around the incompetent community organizer. This is what mittbotts knew was possible during the primary– but only with Super Mitt “firing” away.

“Never worked a day” in the private sector….. very effective.

Not much pain in Bain for fraudbama to run on.

FlaMurph on May 24, 2012 at 12:08 PM

NOMITTNOBAMA 2012!

Pragmatic on May 24, 2012 at 12:09 PM

Romney is on his game way better then MCcain, He’s going to win this.

Did you see the anger in Obama’s eyes in his clipping. He’s getting unhinged

Conservative4ev on May 24, 2012 at 12:11 PM

Smart move by Romney going after the teacher’s unions and their role in the failing public education system. There is nothing to lose by doing it but potentially a lot to gain if the attack is done correctly.

Kataklysmic on May 24, 2012 at 12:11 PM

Romney: Why is Obama attacking capitalism?

Because it’s right in character with a contentious, condescending, and petty POTUS?

Plus, it’s what any determined neo-bolshevik is indoctrinated to do.

locomotivebreath1901 on May 24, 2012 at 12:12 PM

..doncha just love Romney’s jocular tone and, dare I say it, his chortling over Obama’s ignorance of capitalism?

Say, this is going to be fun, innit?

The War Planner on May 24, 2012 at 12:12 PM

NOMITTNOBAMA 2012!

Pragmatic on May 24, 2012 at 12:09 PM

Tell us more about the other options you would recommend.

Kataklysmic on May 24, 2012 at 12:13 PM

God help the GOP in November with this empty suit at the helm.

lostmotherland on May 24, 2012 at 12:05 PM

God help our nation with the Anti-capitalist, Anti-American empty suit composite disaster currently occupying the White House.

cicerone on May 24, 2012 at 12:13 PM

God help the GOP in November with this empty suit at the helm.

lostmotherland on May 24, 2012 at 12:05 PM

Well, At Least I know Romney doesn’t hate this Country, which is a vote in my book

Conservative4ev on May 24, 2012 at 12:14 PM

The first bit reminds me of that virtual town hall where Obama couldn’t believe that a woman’s spouse was having a hard time finding a job as a software engineer. He practically berated her for lying. That ought to be brought the next time jug-ears claims that Romney is detached from ordinary Americans.

Happy Nomad on May 24, 2012 at 12:16 PM

Obama looked angry in that clip they showed. Nothing positive there, just outright demagoguery of his opponent and blaming everything-again-on Bush.

changer1701 on May 24, 2012 at 12:16 PM

Smart move by Romney going after the teacher’s unions and their role in the failing public education system. There is nothing to lose by doing it but potentially a lot to gain if the attack is done correctly.

Kataklysmic on May 24, 2012 at 12:11 PM

Especially when coupled with restoration of the voucher programs that the NEA and AFT hate.

Happy Nomad on May 24, 2012 at 12:17 PM

What comes thru so clearly is that Romney thinks knows Obama is a doofus.

Little Boomer on May 24, 2012 at 12:17 PM

God help the GOP in November with this empty suit at the helm.

lostmotherland on May 24, 2012 at 12:05 PM

Empty suit? I think you have the wrong candidate.

Romney is anything but an empty suit. I may not have wanted him but I’ll give him credit – he’s working very hard at proving me wrong for doubting him.

gophergirl on May 24, 2012 at 12:18 PM

God help the GOP in November with this empty suit at the helm.

lostmotherland on May 24, 2012 at 12:05 PM

Most people who came from the motherland OPPOSE socialism.

Washington Nearsider on May 24, 2012 at 12:19 PM

Obama doesn’t need to know about capitalism because to him it’s just an issue to cause friction between groups of people. He will never have a solution for improving the economy or anything because just like when he was a community orgainzer, once he got groups aggitated, he left.

moonsbreath on May 24, 2012 at 12:19 PM

Hmmm, University of Chicago, check, Democrat Socialists, check, Political Scientists, check. The trifecta of retardation.

MNHawk on May 24, 2012 at 12:20 PM

and that Romney had equated productivity with personal income to suggest Americans weren’t working hard enough.

This from the man, and I use that term lightly, who said America had gotten soft and lazy.

Flora Duh on May 24, 2012 at 12:21 PM

This attack on Bain has been such a loser for Obama that he has now pivoted to claiming” I’m not a big spender…..it’s Bush”…..
….you know….
…………..after the democratic lead House,Senate,and White House approved trillions in spending.

Baxter Greene on May 24, 2012 at 12:21 PM

I’m enjoying the fix he’s in. He’s doubled-down on his pledge to show Romney as a vampire capitalist. This was his team’s major playbook aim – to peg and define Romney early as heartless ‘raper’ of struggling businesses and their assets and not caring a fig about the employees. It’s not catching on and many ‘moderate’ Dems are appalled at the optics of it all.

Mittens just comes across as a nice guy. Give team Romney credit for hitting back often and hard. Team Obama, on the other hand, has nothing left in the quiver. If I’m not mistaken, Obama is looking more and more desparate after the primary snubs in Arkansas and Kentucky and West Virginia. Can’t wait for the optics when he conventions in North Carolina.

Bob in VA on May 24, 2012 at 12:23 PM

Obama looked angry in that clip they showed. Nothing positive there, just outright demagoguery of his opponent and blaming everything-again-on Bush.

changer1701 on May 24, 2012 at 12:16 PM

Yes, his narcissistic rage is becoming more evident with each new speech. It will only increase as time goes on, to the point where it can become downright dangerous.

Flora Duh on May 24, 2012 at 12:25 PM

There’s no question but that he’s attacking capitalism, in part I think because he doesn’t understand how the free economy works. He’s never had a job in the free economy, neither has Vice President Biden

Romney is delivering blows to the gut and to the doofus in the corner with 1 arm tied behind his back.

ted c on May 24, 2012 at 12:25 PM

…the less people successful in a “capitalist system”….
……….the more they are dependent on a socialist system of government to subsidize their livelihood and be a guaranteed vote for democrats.

Baxter Greene on May 24, 2012 at 12:26 PM

NOMITTNOBAMA 2012!

Pragmatic on May 24, 2012 at 12:09 PM

Well, you’re certainly predictable…and dull.

Trafalgar on May 24, 2012 at 12:26 PM

Why is Obama attacking capitalism?

Yeah, when the government can just hand money over to companies like Solyndra who do so well with it.

Bitter Clinger on May 24, 2012 at 12:26 PM

God help the GOP in November with this empty suit at the helm.

lostmotherland on May 24, 2012 at 12:05 PM

Ditto that.

“….You see, this is my basic dilemma, and it’s no different from what many of you now share: Romney may well be all there is in 2012, but can we survive four more years of Obama? I’ve decided that for me, the answer doesn’t matter any longer, even though I think the answer is “yes.” Yes we can. Yes we will.
What I’ve decided we cannot survive is another four years of an “opposition party” that doesn’t oppose diddly. That’s right, I said it. I have come to view the GOP establishment as the political enemy I must defeat. I can’t defeat the statists by siding with their gentler , plodding version.
The constitutional republic will not be restored by going somewhat more slowly into that good night. I recognize that many view Romney as a stalling tactic of sorts, and as a way to buy a little time to shore up Congress, take back the Senate, and so on.
I say to you that if you shore it up with Boehner, Cantor, and their ilk, while capturing the Senate only to place it in the hands of Mitch McConnell, there’s no point, and you’re not even delaying the inevitable….”
…Mark America

Great, great read….
http://markamerica.com/2012/05/19/our-crisis/

tencole on May 24, 2012 at 12:26 PM

“Pragmatic” it is a delicious irony that someone with this name continues to trumpet NOMITTBAMA or Palin/West2012….I begin to suspect you are being ironic/sarcastic. No one could be this clueless.

JFKY on May 24, 2012 at 12:27 PM

The first bit reminds me of that virtual town hall where Obama couldn’t believe that a woman’s spouse was having a hard time finding a job as a software engineer.
Happy Nomad on May 24, 2012 at 12:16 PM

Obama never did manage to find the guy a job, did he? Another opportunity for a great ad. If he can’t find a job for JUST ONE PERSON, why believe him about turning around unemployment?

rlyle on May 24, 2012 at 12:28 PM

When the economy/jobs continue to be the main issue, by far, concerning the electorate, you have Romney on the one hand with actual, incredibly successful business experience and, on the other, Obama who had none at all and who hasn’t even learned on the job after three years.

This won’t be a walk in the park for Romney, but in the end Obama will lose in a landslide, taking the Dem Senate down the hole with him.

TXUS on May 24, 2012 at 12:28 PM

I am warming up to Romney more and morel

derecho on May 24, 2012 at 12:30 PM

I hope Mitt addresses crony capitalism. His statement about business and government becoming more friendly is not good or smart.

Build a wall Mitt, between the two.

rickyricardo on May 24, 2012 at 12:31 PM

Hmmmmm. Now why would a socialist attack capitalism, very good question, when you don’t want to call him a socialist …………. Come on Mitt, call it like you see it………….

angrymike on May 24, 2012 at 12:32 PM

This is a smart strategy to use for Hispanic voters, many of whom have children locked into failing schools.

Most of whom are also Catholic and many of which would LOVE to use vouchers for parachoial schools.

NoDonkey on May 24, 2012 at 12:33 PM

I am warming up to Romney more and morel

derecho on May 24, 2012 at 12:30 PM

That’s just what the gope was hoping for. *groan*

tencole on May 24, 2012 at 12:34 PM

Romney said millions of American children are getting a “third-world education” and offered proposals that he said would reward teachers for their results instead of their seniority.

I think Romney is beginning to fall in behind Scott Walker’s potential big win on Jun 5 and may be setting the stage for a WI visit. If Walker scores big, then Romney will have a huge stage set to go dance on the public education union graves, the fleebaggers shame, and the utter ridiculousness of the recall election. That’s my sense in why he’s pivoting toward’s education and I think what initially was a dark cloud over a Scott Walker administration may give nominee Romney some silver lining and very very strong headwinds into his own election. my 2 cent!

ted c on May 24, 2012 at 12:34 PM

God help the GOP in November with this empty suit at the helm.

lostmotherland on May 24, 2012 at 12:05 PM

…well…he’s better than the nazi socialist in office now.
Four (BO says 5) more years of JugEars…YOU may as well move back in time… to your motherland!

KOOLAID2 on May 24, 2012 at 12:34 PM

The first bit reminds me of that virtual town hall where Obama couldn’t believe that a woman’s spouse was having a hard time finding a job as a software engineer.
Happy Nomad on May 24, 2012 at 12:16 PM

Obama never did manage to find the guy a job, did he? Another opportunity for a great ad. If he can’t find a job for JUST ONE PERSON, why believe him about turning around unemployment?

rlyle on May 24, 2012 at 12:28 PM

Bammie saw ‘engineer’ so he sent the resume to his friends at Amtrak. That was the real problem.

slickwillie2001 on May 24, 2012 at 12:35 PM

Romney: Why is Obama attacking capitalism?

Because he’s a Venture Socialist.

redridinghood on May 24, 2012 at 12:36 PM

If I’m not mistaken, Obama is looking more and more desparate after the primary snubs in Arkansas and Kentucky and West Virginia.

Bob in VA on May 24, 2012 at 12:23 PM

You’ve got to admit losing 40% of the vote in three primaries to an unknown out-of-state lawyer, “anybody but,” and an incarcerated felon are not exactly ego boosters! But damned fun to watch!

Happy Nomad on May 24, 2012 at 12:38 PM

Romney: Why is Obama attacking capitalism?

Because he’s a Venture Socialist.

redridinghood on May 24, 2012 at 12:36 PM

Vampire Socialist

derecho on May 24, 2012 at 12:39 PM

Great, great read….
http://markamerica.com/2012/05/19/our-crisis/

tencole on May 24, 2012 at 12:26 PM

With all due respect, bunch of cr*p.

You (taking you agree with this chap) think another four years of Obama is just maybe some economic BS and maybe a bit more international isolation? It’s people like you who get so clouded by your ideals that you can’t see what’s really going on.

It isn’t just the above, but it’s a president who is willing to cut deals with the Russians for political expediency, who is willing to give people inside information and secrets *just so he can look better*. It’s a persuasive argument that your tax dollars have been supporting the Muslim Brotherhood and will continue to do so. He’s fully ready to walk away from Iran/Israel and let Iran fulfill their promise to destroy Israel.

And that’s just for starters on the international front. We won’t talk about Eastern Europe, the socialists in the EU, etc, etc, etc.

But yeah, Romney or one of the other suits in the GOP are just as harmful as the above.

I’ve been harping on this idea for the past while and while it seems too pedestrian for you “purity riders”, why not buy yourself another four years and use a GOP (Romney or whoever) win to get your ducks in a row for a VIABLE third party of clean GOP house?

Nah. That makes sense. It’s so much more romantic to think you’re rebels. Idiots.

kim roy on May 24, 2012 at 12:41 PM

*viable third party OR clean GOP house.

kim roy on May 24, 2012 at 12:42 PM

In answer to the question in the headline, Andrew Kaczynski produces a flier from an Obama appearance at a socialist rally in 1996, when Obama ran for the state legislature.

Ah yes, 1996 was when Obama was a member of the New Party.

Flora Duh on May 24, 2012 at 12:42 PM

God help the GOP in November with this empty suit at the helm.

lostmotherland on May 24, 2012 at 12:05 PM

Liberal projection at its finest. But please keep believing this to be so….

filetandrelease on May 24, 2012 at 12:43 PM

That’s just what the gope was hoping for. *groan*

Because the GOP must be defeated….Yeah got that….Sure we all oppose Democratic Socialism, but first we have to have a PURE opposition party to oppose it, so let’s spend several electoral cycles deciding who is or is not Conservative or is or is not conservative ENOUGH, have a few witch hunts and auto de fe’s and then we’ll get down to the business of governing America, or what’s left of it…but we’ll be “pure”. *WOW* Down that road lies the electoral relevance of the CPUSA, the Soc!alist Workers Party, the Green party, the International World Worker Party, the New Party and a host of ever so relevant leftist parties that are such a vibrant part of the US political landscape…oh wait.

JFKY on May 24, 2012 at 12:43 PM

Obama is facing a much more hostile media this time

libfreeordie on May 24, 2012 at 10:14 AM

Del Dolemonte on May 24, 2012 at 12:44 PM

God help the GOP in November with this empty suit at the helm.

lostmotherland on May 24, 2012 at 12:05 PM

Yea…we need a President who is still blaming Bush 4 years into his term because of such absolute failure of his domestic/foreign policies.

Keep those knee pads handy…your going to need them a lot over the next few months.

Baxter Greene on May 24, 2012 at 12:44 PM

O’bama is Toast.

lostmotherland on May 24, 2012 at 12:05 PM

Fixed.

Del Dolemonte on May 24, 2012 at 12:45 PM

I am warming up to Romney more and morel

derecho on May 24, 2012 at 12:30 PM

I agree. At least he is willing to take the fight to Obama. Unlike COB did last time.

Mirimichi on May 24, 2012 at 12:45 PM

Democrats must make this election a choice and not a referendum. Unfortunately for them they have presented a contrast they never intended to: serious, competent business executive vs. clueless street agitator.

stout77 on May 24, 2012 at 12:46 PM

It recalls Obama’s proclamation in 2009 about P/E ratios as “profits and earning ratios,” when in fact profits and earnings are the same thing, and P/E stands for price to earnings ratio, a measure of stock values.

But he worked as a financial journalist! He met with Japanese financiers and German bond traders!

It’s interesting that the Obama team never points to his experience with Business International in response to Romney’s “he never held a job in the private sector” charge. Maybe because his account is a lie?

Like Warren’s Cherokee (non-)heritage, perhaps the electorate just doesn’t care. And I suppose Republicans aren’t immune to making or “embellishing” backgrounds. Still, just like a NYT correction always having a right-leaning push-back, it seems like Democrats are always more eager to print the legend about themselves than the truth.

bobs1196 on May 24, 2012 at 12:49 PM

I’m starting to warm up to this Mitt person.

Rush gave him his cue yesterday when he said Øbama was the first prez candidate from a major party to run against capitalism. Mitt picked the ball up and ran with it like a champ in the FNC appearance this morning.

As if this weren’t sweet enough, then he launches a major position on expanding school choice and reigning in the teachers’ unions.

Swoon, I’m almost OD’ed on satisfaction.

petefrt on May 24, 2012 at 12:50 PM

hah, Calling Obama out as an economic ignoramus is actually quite clever.

rob verdi on May 24, 2012 at 12:03 PM

I dunno… seems rather obvious, to me.

JohnGalt23 on May 24, 2012 at 12:50 PM

Why is Obama attacking capitalism? Because Obama is a Marxist…silly! and that’s what Marxist do.

Axion on May 24, 2012 at 12:06 PM

This.

Read “The Communist Manifesto”. It’s all there, it’s Obama’s playbook and he never ventures beyond it.

Marx’s interpretation of capitalism was fatally flawed, in exactly the same way Obama’s interpretation of capitalism is fatally flawed. They both interpret capitalism as the exploitation of the working class, and the rest of their world view springs directly and exclusively from that assumption.

ZenDraken on May 24, 2012 at 12:51 PM

Nah. That makes sense. It’s so much more romantic to think you’re rebels. Idiots.

kim roy on May 24, 2012 at 12:41 PM

If Romney becomes POTUS with Boehner and McConnell at the helm….this “idiot” will be first in line to tell you “I told you so”.

tencole on May 24, 2012 at 12:52 PM

Ridicule. It’s always on tap for Obama. He’s consistently clueless and a walking billboard for the lousy job our educators do at teaching the basic important skills and knowledge. He’s had the media covering for him time and time and time…and time again, but I suspect that free ride is about to end. I’d like to see the return of pop-up videos that highlight his ‘best/worst of’ gaffes with the real history/science/civics lessons so that parents can see what their children should be learning from this exercise in democracy. A glib tongue can take you only so far, but without true knowledge and understanding you will be revealed to the world as a SCOAMF.

CitizenEgg on May 24, 2012 at 12:52 PM

Why is Obama attacking capitalism?

Haters gonna hate.

CurtZHP on May 24, 2012 at 12:55 PM

God help the GOP in November with this empty suit at the helm.

lostmotherland on May 24, 2012 at 12:05 PM

.

Mika will be reduced to tears Nov. 7th … ala Judy Woodruff…..

why why why ???

FlaMurph on May 24, 2012 at 12:59 PM

Romney is anything but an empty suit. I may not have wanted him but I’ll give him credit – he’s working very hard at proving me wrong for doubting him.

gophergirl on May 24, 2012 at 12:18 PM

I’ll have to admit to being pleasantly surprised. Glad he’s staying on message for the most part and not getting involved in the “distractions” also.

O/T On one of the other threads last night, someone said Gov. Perry gave Gov. Brown in CA 3 things to do for the economy:-)

bluefox on May 24, 2012 at 1:00 PM

Romney: Why is Obama attacking capitalism?

Um, he told you in 2008:

“I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.”

- Senator Barack Obama, 14 October 2008

“From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.”

Resist We Much on May 24, 2012 at 1:03 PM

One of my concerns with Romney is that too many conservatives would sit this one out. With Obamas ineptness and Romneys strike fast and hard approach that particular concern is gone. At least for me.

Like others here has stateted, I too am starting to warm up to Romney. (was never my first choice)

filetandrelease on May 24, 2012 at 1:04 PM

Stumbling, bumbling and rambling, the Bamster seems to be unravelling.

petefrt on May 24, 2012 at 1:05 PM

stated

filetandrelease on May 24, 2012 at 1:05 PM

If Romney becomes POTUS with Boehner and McConnell at the helm….this “idiot” will be first in line to tell you “I told you so”.

And absolutely last in line to say “I was wrong.” Because nothing at this point can satisfy you. Even Palin and Ryan and DeMint wouldn’t be enough, because they would always be “betraying the cause’ or “selling out” or under the influence of the “establishment.” Because once you’ve become a “true” Revolutionary no human is ever good enough! Learn what real revolutionaries know, The Revolution is a Wh0re! It can never be satisfied or made pure or good enough…you and the revolution will always come up short of the Ideals…you can accept that and work hard, like a good Christ!an works hard, but always knowing that you will fail the ideals, like no Christ!an can ever do enough.

But you’re not gonna do that are you? You’re just gonna harp, moan and complain and seek to remove the impure and actually accomplish NOTHING, but you will have the moral satisfaction of knowing you are right…sad. You are like the Pharisees, Sadducees, or Scribes who lamented that Jesus cured the Blind Man on the Sabbath…the good done, is ignored and only some ideal is trumpeted demonstrating a “failure.”

JFKY on May 24, 2012 at 1:07 PM

NOPRAGMATIC2012!

John the Libertarian on May 24, 2012 at 1:08 PM

i really hope he continues his arguments on education. i also hope he appeals to the common sense of hispanics, so that if they have any, they realize that illegals are taking away opportunities from *them*. minorities, including blacks and hispanics are the real losers, when our government opens up our borders and allows the illegals to stay.

the illegals not only destroy the neighborhoods that the hispanics and blacks are living in, they also take a large portion of the public services and welfare, leaving less for the truly needy.

so there’s barely enough for you, and you want to allow more people to use it??? common sense, people!

jetch on May 24, 2012 at 1:11 PM

Um…I think it’s because Obama is basically a secret Communist. Everything else is just a ruse. The mentor dude in Hawaii really filled him up with hate.

Hummer53 on May 24, 2012 at 1:13 PM

It’s a wise thing to go after the unions instead of the teachers or the budget. I have said this for a long time. The unions are what are driving up the cost of education so high. If you clip them, you clip costs. You clip costs, you can cut expenditures naturally. And you do it without giving the liberals MITT ROMNEY HATES EDUCATION ammunition to scream with.

I have said it time and time again. Conservatives have got to work on their messaging more than their ideas. The ideas work. But talking about shutting down the Department of Education is silly, because liberals naturally will resist that. So why not take away pieces of it till it’s no longer needed, and it goes into the night not with a bang but a whimper? Liberals, whatever else you say about them, sincerely believe in the Department of Education.

Think about this: Constitutionally, and according to the Federalist Papers, the USA should not have a standing army. We should farm out national defense to the states (as per the 2nd Amendment), and leave it at that. Would you go for that? I know I wouldn’t. Yet in the cold light of the Constitution, it’s the correct thing to do. So I’ll admit that on issues important to me (like national defense), I’m willing to stretch the Constitution a bit, maybe even to rewrite it. Liberals are basically spoiled little kids who are ruled by their emotions. We need to use those emotions to win the argument, but use slyness to win the war.

JoseQuinones on May 24, 2012 at 1:21 PM

Theres a common grievence between the Occupy Movement and Tea Party: cronyism.

Mitt need to grab that issue and run with it. Nothing would be more constructive than a candidate who promotes free markets and competition while addressing the corrupt relationship between the regulators and the regulated.

rickyricardo on May 24, 2012 at 1:22 PM

Um…I think it’s because Obama is basically a secret Communist. Everything else is just a ruse. The mentor dude in Hawaii really filled him up with hate.

Hummer53 on May 24, 2012 at 1:13 PM

That’s got to be the worst kept secret ever.

dentarthurdent on May 24, 2012 at 1:22 PM

And absolutely last in line to say “I was wrong.”
JFKY on May 24, 2012 at 1:07 PM

You’re sooo wrong…..no one will be more surprised than me if Mitt actually goes through with anything he “pledges”. I will be very happy to say “I was wrong”….how about you?

but you will have the moral satisfaction of knowing you are right…
JFKY on May 24, 2012 at 1:07 PM

I will not sit down, shut up and like what the gope is doing, you can and that’s your prerogative….but the end result is yes, I will be glad to be able to sleep well at night.

tencole on May 24, 2012 at 1:23 PM

Why is Obama attacking capitalism?

Because it’s freaking May! He isn’t going to use his real ammunition until the campaigns actually start, and even then he’ll wait until at least August to start seriously attacking Mitt. No one, besides people like us, is paying attention right now.

How is Mitt going to deal with a 1000 ads showing him say one thing, then say the opposite, on every single major issue of the past 2 decades? Because Obama doesn’t have to lie to paint Mitt as a flip-flopper, he doesn’t even have to distort or exaggerate or take out of context, because Romney really has taken every side of every issue. Bain and the dog thing, all of this stuff right now is irrelevant. It’s just a way to feed the press some scandal or other, to keep the media happy. At some point Romney is going to be forced to explain his record as Governor and it won’t be a pretty sight.

Buckshot Bill on May 24, 2012 at 1:27 PM

the USA should not have a standing army. We should farm out national defense to the states (as per the 2nd Amendment), and leave it at that.

Your overall point is excellent, but to pick a nit:

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;
To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

There is nothing there that forbids a Standing Army, nor demands it. We MUST maintain a Navy, we MAY maintain an Army…to include a Standing One. You are not rewriting the US Constitution when you support a Standing Army, merely exercising an option granted.

JFKY on May 24, 2012 at 1:29 PM

0bama is not a far left ideologue, just ask him.

jukin3 on May 24, 2012 at 1:32 PM

How is Mitt going to deal with a 1000 ads showing him say one thing, then say the opposite, on every single major issue of the past 2 decades? Because Obama doesn’t have to lie to paint Mitt as a flip-flopper, he doesn’t even have to distort or exaggerate or take out of context, because Romney really has taken every side of every issue. Bain and the dog thing, all of this stuff right now is irrelevant. It’s just a way to feed the press some scandal or other, to keep the media happy. At some point Romney is going to be forced to explain his record as Governor and it won’t be a pretty sight.

Buckshot Bill on May 24, 2012 at 1:27 PM

This!

I remember a time…not too long ago…when the majority of us here felt this way.
What happened?

tencole on May 24, 2012 at 1:32 PM

Romney: Why is Obama attacking capitalism?

Because he’s a Venture Socialist.

redridinghood on May 24, 2012 at 12:36 PM
Vampire Socialist

derecho on May 24, 2012 at 12:39 PM

LOL…what could the tweeter-verse do with this question? AND skyrocketing electric bills due to arrive in 2015.

Portia46 on May 24, 2012 at 1:39 PM

I remember a time…not too long ago…when the majority of us here felt this way.
What happened?

Uh the guy you DESPISE became the nominee…because the other candidates sucked far worse….you can talk about “establishment conspiracies” but the truth is…Perry, Bachmann, Cain, Santorum didn’t get enough VOTES! Why because they weren’t very good or weren’t ready for prime time! So you Mitt-Haters can stay home, vote Johnson, or Paul or US Constitution Party but the next POTUS is either going to be Romney or Obama and I know which one I prefer….

As to “flip-flopping/evolving” I think Obama has stood on both sides of most issues, TOO! So what’s he gonna say? So that leaves the economy and Obama’s accomplishments…and on that front I feel more and more confident that Romney can and will prevail.

JFKY on May 24, 2012 at 1:43 PM

Buckshot Bill on May 24, 2012 at 1:27 PM

Based on your presumption and I believe it to be valid, then I would say the candidates are on equal footing. Lets just hope America likes the capitalist best.

DDay on May 24, 2012 at 1:43 PM

Buckshot Bill on May 24, 2012 at 1:27 PM

This!

I remember a time…not too long ago…when the majority of us here felt this way.
What happened?

tencole on May 24, 2012 at 1:32 PM

This is why I get so tire of the GOP always, always nominating these liberal Rinos: at some point they always expect the conservatives to carry their water for them, to defend their terrible records and pretend that we actually agree with every stupid thing they’ve said and done.

Romney spent two years forming a regional Cap and Trade scam program and then did a 180 and dropped his support just as it was initiating, right as he decided to start running for President. There isn’t anyway to spin that as anything other than flip-flopping on an issue for purely political purposes. You can’t defend that, trying to do so only hurts your credibility.

When you attach the GOP to people like Romney it only makes things harder for people down ticket. We’re going to have months of good conservative candidates for the House and Senate forced to explain and defend each time that Mitten’s took a poll and suddenly had an epiphany on gun control or abortion or healthcare mandates.

How do you run for the Senate as a conservative, and look voters in the eye as you shill for Romney? How do you claim he’ll repeal Obamacare with a straight face? How do you pretend that Boehner/McConnell are somehow going to keep Mitt’s feet to the fire? How can you lie to voters like that and still call yourself a conservative?

Buckshot Bill on May 24, 2012 at 1:44 PM

I remember a time…not too long ago…when the majority of us here felt this way.
What happened?

tencole on May 24, 2012 at 1:32 PM

Nobody wanted Romney during the primaries, myself included. At that time we were comparing Mitt against the other Republican contenders and most of the time he wasn’t that attractive in comparison. However, when compared to Obama, I think he looks pretty damn good. I don’t know about you, but my hopes for getting a real reformer in there were dashed when Palin declined to run. I had many months to deal with that disappointment before Mitt became the presumptive nominee.

Tencole, I have always liked you and I understand and agree with many of your criticism of Romney. But to me this election is nothing less than a choice between Socialism or Capitalism for the future economic path of this country.

Kataklysmic on May 24, 2012 at 1:47 PM

Tencole, I have always liked you and I understand and agree with many of your criticism of Romney. But to me this election is nothing less than a choice between Socialism or Capitalism for the future economic path of this country.

Kataklysmic on May 24, 2012 at 1:47 PM

At the risk of pissing people off, I say that Romney isn’t a capitalist. He’s a guy that worked at a company and made a lot of money. So does Buffet, and thousand other liberals.

Romney still believes and argues that the government has the right to force you to buy goods and services against your will. Capitalism requires choice and the freedom to make your own without government intimidation.

At best Romney’s a form of corporatist, but he isn’t a capitalist. Maybe that’s better than a socialist, maybe it’s really the same thing in the end. I don’t know.

But whatever it is, it isn’t a reason to vote FOR Romney. And I think in the end it isn’t going to be enough to beat Obama.

Buckshot Bill on May 24, 2012 at 1:57 PM

I like Romney’s response.

Like it or not, he is the nominee. We need to stand behind
him in order to defeat Obama or this country WILL be socialist.

Amjean on May 24, 2012 at 1:58 PM

God help the GOP in November with this empty suit at the helm.

lostmotherland on May 24, 2012 at 12:05 PM

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Because the alternative is what, so much more appealing?

ICanSeeNovFromMyHouse on May 24, 2012 at 2:00 PM

New Declaration: I will not longer convert every thread about Romney into a thread ON Romney…You Mitt-Haters, we get it…he’s not a Conservative, he flip-flops, he’s not for you…OK. We’re down with that. From here on I’d like to talk about the issue not the candidate, because:
1) He is “my” candidate, for better or worse; and
2) He is NOT Tencole/Pragmatic/Buckshot Bills
And no meeting of the minds can be reached on that. It is POINTLESS for you to discuss why Romney sucks, we get it, he sucks, you don’t like him…but he’s the GOP candidate, sorry if he’s not YOUR candidate, but he’s the GOP’s…so we can talk about his stance(s) or Obama, but it is pointless and futile to rehash the 2012 Primary Season. It’s done and YOU LOST…not sure if “we” won, but it is assured YOU LOST. I will not rehash your bitter defeat.

JFKY on May 24, 2012 at 2:00 PM

Obama’s attacks on Bain are backfiring because, ever since the earliest days of his presidency, there’s been a disconnect between the fawing coverage that he’s gotten from the mainstream media, and the skepticism that his policies generated from the business media. Heck, the inspiration for the Tea Party movement was on air comments made by Rick Santelli on a cable business show. Others, like Jim Cramer and Maria Bartoromo (who both fit the fiscally Conservative/socially Liberal mold) have expressed the same skepticism.

Lots of people watch these shows and they also read financial blogs and magazines. College kids and Hollywood limousine Liberals may buy into his “Capitalists are vultures” schtick, but most people who follow the markets are pissed that the community organizer who felt like a “spy behind enemy lines” during his one private sector job, didn’t turn out to be the fiscal Centrist that he sold himself to be. And they’re not going to buy this line of attack.

ardenenoch on May 24, 2012 at 2:01 PM

Buckshot Bill on May 24, 2012 at 1:57 PM

You and I have had our debates about Romney before. I understand where you are coming from. I’m not here to defend his record. This is yet another lesser of evils election just like every election since ’88. Romney is no prize. However just keep in mind that the alternative is someone who supported Zelaya in Honduras and whose idol is FDR. I’ll let you decide for youself if those two facts deserve any pondering.

Kataklysmic on May 24, 2012 at 2:03 PM

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Obama looked angry in that clip they showed. Nothing positive there, just outright demagoguery of his opponent and blaming everything-again-on Bush.

changer1701 on May 24, 2012 at 12:16 PM

Yes, his narcissistic rage is becoming more evident with each new speech. It will only increase as time goes on, to the point where it can become downright dangerous.

Flora Duh on May 24, 2012 at 12:25 PM

It’s that NARCISSISTIC RAGE that I fear…no telling what kind of stupid and unlawful stuff he’ll start pulling when he knows for sure he won’t win reeclection….

Ltlgeneral64 on May 24, 2012 at 2:04 PM

News Flash

Obama had written that Julia has a degree in economics and will be under consideration for VP. Joe Biden heard the news while driving but has not been able to figure out how to unlock the car door so that he may comment.

Reality Checker on May 24, 2012 at 2:04 PM

Nah. That makes sense. It’s so much more romantic to think you’re rebels. Idiots.

kim roy on May 24, 2012 at 12:41 PM

If Romney becomes POTUS with Boehner and McConnell at the helm….this “idiot” will be first in line to tell you “I told you so”.

tencole on May 24, 2012 at 12:52 PM

You think I’m **HAPPY** with Romney??? I’m a Palinista and I’m pragmatic and I look upon this as an opportunity to fight another day.

It frightens the crud out of me what another four years of Obama will do internationally, never mind economically. I’ll worry about bread lines when the Middle East isn’t blowing itself and us up. Romney and the status quo are the least of my problems.

If you were the least bit realistic you’d understand what I’m saying.

kim roy on May 24, 2012 at 2:04 PM

JFKY on May 24, 2012 at 2:00 PM

We did discuss the issue. Obama is attacking capitalism, because it’s too early in the general election season to attack Romney’s real weaknesses. That’s the end of the discussion at this point. If this was September and not May, Obama would be hammering Romney the same way Bush hammered Kerry.

Buckshot Bill on May 24, 2012 at 2:04 PM

Let’s see if I have this straight — Gov Romney used to work for a firm that specialized in turning around failing businesses using private funds and succeeded 8 out 10 times. Pres Obama has sunk billions of taxpayer funds into dozens of pet projects and rewards to political favorites and has failed EVERY time. And voters are supposed to believe leaving Obama in charge is the best option for the overall well being of the national economy?!?

Ooo look! A shiny thing!!!

RobertE on May 24, 2012 at 2:06 PM

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