Bad news: Obama campaign starting to think they might lose

posted at 8:01 pm on May 24, 2012 by Allahpundit

It’s amazing what a few competitive polls can do to concentrate the mind.

Democrats had taken comfort for months in the Republican Party’s seeming inability to get behind Mitt Romney, Obama’s healthy lead in the polls, and equally healthy job growth. And for a few, fleeting, moments, Democrats thought the election might just be easy. But Republican division appears to have been merely an artifact of primary politics, and Mitt Romney has proved a consistent, if unglamorous campaigner…

“There was this sense maybe a month or two ago that Obama was really riding high — that he had gotten his base behind him and the economy was doing better and it had this Clinton vs. Bob Dole 1996 feeling — that he was going to cruise,” said one 2008 Obama aide who does not work for this year’s campaign. “And now it feels like it’s going to be really tough — a 2004 race.”

Indeed the campaign is shaping up to be a close-combat battle for one percent of swing voters in a few hundred precincts across three or four states…

Moreover, a campaign that two months ago seemed infallible has proven to be very capable of making mistakes. Obama’s aides were taken aback when Vice President Joe Biden publicly backed same sex marriage — and spent a week punishing him for speaking out in the press. Long preparation for attacks on Romney’s time at Bain Capital, aimed at changing the narrative, nevertheless left them flat-footed when Republicans (and even a few Democrats) counter-attacked. Romney, who stumbled into the Republican nomination, scored his first tactical victory of the general election and further shored up the Republican base in the process.

Were there really any Democrats who thought Republicans wouldn’t unite behind Romney? Conservatives have spent three years lamenting every move the White House makes; when given a choice between Obama and Not Obama, there was never a scintilla of doubt how enthusiastic they’d be for the latter. And Romney’s big selling point, of course, was electability, so there was also never much reason for Democrats to think they’d win easily among the center. Their only strong hands against Mitt were O’s likability advantage, which might move votes at the margins but likely won’t be decisive, and the hope/prayer that a crude class-warfare campaign might get traction among working-class voters. No dice so far. They still might win — Romney’s political track record suggests he needs a big spending advantage to make him competitive and that’s not happening this time — but this is a national election in a 50/50 age after a rough first term economically. Go figure that the polls might narrow.

Karl Rove says a Romney win is as easy as 3-2-1:

After this initial hurdle, Mr. Romney’s victory road starts with “3″—as in Indiana, North Carolina and Virginia, a trio of historically Republican states. In 2008, Mr. Obama won by narrow margins in Indiana (barely 1%) and North Carolina (0.32%)…

[I]f Mr. Romney can put these states’ combined 39 electoral votes back into the GOP column, the Electoral College vote would be 319 for Mr. Obama, 219 for Mr. Romney…

Next up is “2″—as in Florida and Ohio. They flipped from Republican in 2004 to Democratic in 2008. Both were close—a 2.8% margin for Mr. Obama in the former and 4.6% in the latter…

These two states have a combined 47 electoral votes. If Mr. Romney wins them, the Electoral College would stand at 272 for Mr. Obama, 266 for Mr. Romney.

If he wins those five then all he needs is any one of the following: New Hampshire, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Iowa, Colorado, New Mexico, or Nevada, the last of which has a famously large Mormon population and, as Rove notes, the nation’s highest unemployment rate. I think Romney can win there given his advantages; I think he can win Florida too given how close it was last time and how well he did in the primary this time. (The bombshell Quinnipiac poll yesterday was surprising but not that surprising.) I’m less sure about Virginia and Ohio and so is Romney, I’d bet, which is why Rob Portman is quickly becoming a heavy favorite to land on the ticket. With him as VP, not only do you get a boost in Ohio and the reassurance of a seasoned and uncontroversial pol at number two, but maybe you’ll get just enough extra interest from his neighbors in western Pennsylvania to make that state a bit more competitive too. I don’t think Romney will bother with PA unless the polls start to look shockingly good for him, and even then they probably won’t look shockingly good unless something dramatic happens nationally and he seems on his way to a landslide. But Portman probably helps a little there and a little could mean a lot.

As a cherry on top of O’s anxiety sundae, here’s the Democrat who’s running to replace Gabby Giffords in Arizona politely declining to say whom he’ll be voting for in November.


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I don’t see how we can gloat about something that hasn’t happened yet, O’s defeat, regardless of what the O campaign says to trick us, especially when polls, at least today, are decidedly in Obama’s favor: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/
In my opinion its not going well, and the economy might very well go very well for O, so Romney better stop saying the only issue of note is the economy.
This election is about the out of control federal govt. Not the economy. Romney must abandon the “Mr Nice Guy” plan. I ask, where do nice guys finish? Yes, Romney and his team better start attacking like a pack of piranhas, or finish last.
It is not a negative to be a negative campaigner. That’s a misconception. People don’t care at all about that. But it is a negative to be a goody two-shoes Mr Nice Guy that finishes last when we’ve put our trust in him to win. Go after O like hell is freezing over tomorrow. You don’t have to be honest or get it exactly right every time, just go after Obama, over and over again, keep saying the eyebrow raising things to put O in his place. Or lose.

anotherJoe on May 24, 2012 at 9:07 PM

Election or no, his term, and Biden’s, would end on 1/20/13. So we turn to the constitution, which, IIRC, puts the Speaker in line for succession.

Wethal on May 24, 2012 at 9:00 PM

Yes, until an election were held at any rate, or the House choose a President. Without an election neither Obama nor Biden can serve past the end of their current term.

Keep in mind that in any event in which an election fails to produce a winner with 270 electoral votes, it falls to the House of Representatives to elect the President.

If the executive branch FAILED to even hold an election, it could be said that since NO ONE got 270 electoral votes the House of Representatives (which is and will almost certainly remain overwhelmingly conservative) would choose the next President.

wildcat72 on May 24, 2012 at 9:08 PM

Hillary the Conservative vs Mitt the liberal 2012
Like I said big surprises in DNC Convention.

Steveangell on May 24, 2012 at 9:10 PM

I’m hoping there are lots of Dems who publically say they support and like Obama but privately despise him as much as we do. Dems that realize how dangerous and destructive Obama is–not just to their party but to the country.
I still have faith that there are some decent Dems out there that will do the right thing and vote against Obama.

bailey24 on May 24, 2012 at 9:10 PM

Let’s please watch out. There is no doubt Pres. Clusterfark will lose the honest vote. But he is a shoe in for the enormous dead vote that will be emerging in 2012.

NOMOBO on May 24, 2012 at 9:05 PM

Won’t do them any good. They’d have to resort to stealing the election on an Iranian scale…

Barry Hussein Soetoro is going to lose WAY over the margin of `Rat vote fraud. To steal an election without causing a Civil War the `Rats have to be within 1%. It’s not going to be anywhere near that close.

wildcat72 on May 24, 2012 at 9:10 PM

I think Romney can take PA. Philly, no, but the rest of the state, you betcha.

Philly on May 24, 2012 at 9:11 PM

Let’s please watch out. There is no doubt Pres. Clusterfark will lose the honest vote. But he is a shoe in for the enormous dead vote that will be emerging in 2012.

NOMOBO on May 24, 2012 at 9:05 PM

it’s called a ground game, and Willard has A LOT of ground to make up. I wouldn’t bet on it except in states like Florida where the GOP is disenfranchising voters , as always.

DBear on May 24, 2012 at 9:12 PM

That is one possible tactic I’ve been fearing… Obama floods the streets with thugs ON ELECTION DAY as a means of scaring non Obama voters away from the polls.

Hint: if you are white, you will be considered a non Obama voter…

Frankly I don’t think even that would work. Barry will already win the rotting cesspool government cheese distribution center vote (the large cities), his foot soldiers won’t be able to muster a presence elsewhere. If he tried something like that in a place like KY or WV, well, remember, we “hicks” are armed…

I hear you, but I am not worried about the inner cities. Just like the “flash robs” use their phones and social media to show up at a place where there are lots of robbery targets, they will do the same thing on election day. And of course Eric Holder and the Justice Department will have already leaned on the local police and sheriff’s department to watch out for “racist behavior” (cough cough)or else there will be consequences.

And for the record, God I hate to sound like “one of those” types who often give conservatives a bad name, or part of the tin foil hat brigade who still embarrases us with talk of the Bildeburgers or the Illuminati, but I can’t help but see this possbility.

Teacher in Tejas on May 24, 2012 at 9:12 PM

If the executive branch FAILED to even hold an election, it could be said that since NO ONE got 270 electoral votes the House of Representatives (which is and will almost certainly remain overwhelmingly conservative) would choose the next President.

wildcat72 on May 24, 2012 at 9:08 PM

Why would you think Biden would care about the Constitution. If he refuses to move out of the White House and keeps Martial Law in effect what then.

We are experiencing how a Communist Regime takes over just like many other countries did in the past.

Steveangell on May 24, 2012 at 9:13 PM

And for the record, God I hate to sound like “one of those” types who often give conservatives a bad name, or part of the tin foil hat brigade who still embarrases us with talk of the Bildeburgers or the Illuminati, but I can’t help but see this possbility.

Teacher in Tejas on May 24, 2012 at 9:12 PM

It’s not out of line to at least be concerned about such things happening. Indeed, it’s PRUDENT.

We are talking about a President who has been ruling COMPLETELY outside the law for the entirety of this year. That has to open the possibility, even Plausibility we will go even further to hold on to power. It’s not as if he’s done anything to raise such suspicion, such as making recess appointments when Congress wasn’t in recess or anything…

wildcat72 on May 24, 2012 at 9:15 PM

DBear on May 24, 2012 at 9:12 PM

Thanks for that Daily Kos link–they’re the best for investigative reporting, that’s for sure!

spiritof61 on May 24, 2012 at 9:15 PM

Why would you think Biden would care about the Constitution. If he refuses to move out of the White House and keeps Martial Law in effect what then.

We are experiencing how a Communist Regime takes over just like many other countries did in the past.

Steveangell on May 24, 2012 at 9:13 PM

Martial Law would only work so long as the “martial” part supported him.

If Obama or Biden tried such a thing the military (ie: MARTIAL part of MARTIAL law) would most likely be their greatest enemy!

wildcat72 on May 24, 2012 at 9:16 PM

anotherJoe on May 24, 2012 at 9:07 PM

+1

From your keyboard to Team Romney’s ears. Find your state’s campaign rep working for Romney and send that person your comment to pass on to him.

PatriotGal2257 on May 24, 2012 at 9:17 PM

I am concerned the Obama campaign will ever admit defeat… especially on NO-vember 6th…

Khun Joe on May 24, 2012 at 9:18 PM

I’m hoping there are lots of Dems who publically say they support and like Obama but privately despise him as much as we do. Dems that realize how dangerous and destructive Obama is–not just to their party but to the country.
I still have faith that there are some decent Dems out there that will do the right thing and vote against Obama.

bailey24 on May 24, 2012 at 9:10 PM

There are. Look up the “Bradley Effect”. The voting booth is the only TRULY private poll there is. Look what’s happening all over the place when democrats get that opportunity… Look at KY, WV, and AR..

wildcat72 on May 24, 2012 at 9:19 PM

And remember, a lot of us fell for the “PUMA” nonsense in 2008 and thought millions of Hillary supporters would stay home or even vote for McCain. So it isn’t that hard to believe that Democrats were equally naive about Republicans closing ranks behind Romney.

rockmom on May 24, 2012 at 8:11 PM

rockmom, I believe there WERE millions of PUMAS who bailed on Dems in 2008. I was one of them. Not only did I vote for Palin/whatshisname, I worked my tail off for weeks to help get them elected. In the process I learned that Republicans were warm, caring people who welcomed a registered (at the time) Dem crossing over to help them. They were, in fact, far friendlier and less strident than the Dems I’d worked with for years. My Dem registration went in the trash.

For that alone I should probably thank the _resident.

Any other PUMAs here?

creeper on May 24, 2012 at 9:19 PM

I am concerned the Obama campaign will ever admit defeat… especially on NO-vember 6th…

Khun Joe on May 24, 2012 at 9:18 PM

If he doesn’t, the first act of President Romney would be to order him arrested and hauled out of the White House in irons…

wildcat72 on May 24, 2012 at 9:20 PM

it’s called a ground game, and Willard has A LOT of ground to make up. I wouldn’t bet on it except in states like Florida where the GOP is disenfranchising voters , as always.

DBear on May 24, 2012 at 9:12 PM

A Daily Kos link? Even your brainwashed niece would laugh at this sort of desperation.

Chuck Schick on May 24, 2012 at 9:22 PM

From Ohio:

Portman is unexciting, unappealing and a bankster supporter.

Can’t see him helping at all, even a little. And he has never given the impression that he understands our Federal constitution or the ideas behind it. There are much better choices for someone who might become CIC.

Falcon46 on May 24, 2012 at 9:22 PM

0 is so Done! Funny!

Bmore on May 24, 2012 at 9:23 PM

then has to defend Bain

With an 80% success rate?

Can Obama say the same with his “investments”?

Solyndras?

As Lanny Davis wrote:

“The ad featured several of them blaming Romney and Bain for the lost jobs, but it omitted several facts, such as:

Mitt Romney had left Bain Capital two years before bankruptcy had been declared.

The head of Bain at the time of the GS bankruptcy decision is now a major Obama fundraiser.

Bain invested another $100 million in plant modernization and four years later the company reportedly had reached more than $1 billion in revenues.

After the company went bankrupt in 2001, the president of the plant’s union didn’t blame Bain but rather, cheap foreign imports. “We can’t compete against the steel imports that are being sold under cost,” he said.

It’s difficult to argue, even if you are a partisan Obama supporter, as I am, that this ad is not at least somewhat misleading.”

Run against Bain. Please.

You’ve got Democrats getting off of their couches, getting in their cars, driving to polling stations, and voting for felons/uncommitted/unknown lawyers with no money.

There are only seven sitting presidents who have ever received less than 60 percent of the vote in any primary: Taft in ’12; Coolidge, ’24; Hoover, ’32; LBJ, ’68; Ford ’76; Carter, ’80; and Bush ’92. All of these presidents, with the exception of Coolidge, were not re-elected — and he eventually faced a substantial third-party challenge from one of his primary challengers.

You’ve got a problem and running against the private sector, capitalism, and the free market isn’t going to solve it.

Resist We Much on May 24, 2012 at 9:23 PM

Pic of the Day: President SCoaMF’s New Bestseller

http://predicthistunpredictpast.blogspot.com/2012/05/pic-of-day-president-scoamfs-new.html

Resist We Much on May 24, 2012 at 9:26 PM

Bad news: Obama campaign starting to think they might lose

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bump…

RalphyBoy on May 24, 2012 at 9:27 PM

U2denver on May 24, 2012 at 8:20 PM

Tell us, really, what is it that makes you burn with such enthusiasm to reelect this sociopathic punk to another term?
Because, I assure you, the passion we on the right have for getting out there and voting him the hell out trumps any astroturfed enthusiasm the left could possibly gin up for keeping this vile usurper in place.

Right Mover on May 24, 2012 at 9:27 PM

Come on people, It is only May. Don’t get over-confident. Just do all you can to make it happen. Talk to anyone you can, donate, get the word out anyway you can. Twitter is a great fighting tool. Use it.

Barred on May 24, 2012 at 9:29 PM

When they lose, The Obamas will graciously concede and wish the best to the country and its new President.

Or they will both shriek and wail so loudly that their howls of agony will echo throughout DC as they both sprout horns, fangs and devil tails. Mooch will rend an American flag into shreds. Obama will roll the Constitution into a giant doobie. They will then gallop on all fours from the White House grounds, gnashing their teeth and biting at each other and passersby. The gates of hell will open before them, and they will gallop through them as flames and thunderous noise echoes from the gates. A crowd of witnesses to this apocalyptic scene will briefly stare at each other dumbfoundedly then break out in huzzahs and raucous applause and rejoicing. A rainbow will arc over the White House- even if it is night time.

justltl on May 24, 2012 at 9:32 PM

I still don’t see any evidence that Republican voters are going to turn out en masse just on anti-Obama sentiment alone. And I don’t see that much of a huge difference in polling now…so…what?

ddrintn on May 24, 2012 at 9:33 PM

Romney/West 2012 Business and Ballocks(campaign slogan)

kenny on May 24, 2012 at 9:33 PM

If he wins those five

LOL…

ddrintn on May 24, 2012 at 9:35 PM

Mitt Romney is a lousy candidate but the election is all about Obama. Romney matters very little.

Because of his lack of support among white voters, there is little chance that Obama will earn more than 50% of the popular vote.

Here is my prediction:

Obama 48.5%

Romney 46.5%

3rd party 5.0%

Obama wins like Bush 43 won in 2004 over Kerry, something like 286 electoral votes to 252, although it could be as close as 272 EV to 266 EV.

technopeasant on May 24, 2012 at 9:35 PM

If Obama or Biden tried such a thing the military (ie: MARTIAL part of MARTIAL law) would most likely be their greatest enemy!

wildcat72 on May 24, 2012 at 9:16 PM

Sorry to burst your bubble but my Brother in Law is a Col will most likely be a General within two years and works with many Generals in DC in some very newsworthy situations. All of the Generals he works with are very liberal Democrats. They hate Republicans. They all feel the ends justifies the means. They would just go along.

Now the troops themselves would rebel which is why Biden would have to highly limit the internet as well to keep everyone uninformed. No AM radio and no Internet because some enemy was using it for their means is what I would suppose would be the excuse.

Steveangell on May 24, 2012 at 9:36 PM

I still don’t see any evidence that Republican voters are going to turn out en masse just on anti-Obama sentiment alone.

ddrintn on May 24, 2012 at 9:33 PM

Were you asleep doing November of 2010?

I am a libertarian, live in a deep blue state, and would crawl over broken glass to vote for a chia pet in November to get rid of Obama.

Resist We Much on May 24, 2012 at 9:36 PM

I am a libertarian, live in a deep blue state, and would crawl over broken glass to vote for a chia pet in November to get rid of Obama.

Resist We Much on May 24, 2012 at 9:36 PM

Isn’t Biden a Chia pet?
**shudder**

justltl on May 24, 2012 at 9:40 PM

Were you asleep doing November of 2010?

I am a libertarian, live in a deep blue state, and would crawl over broken glass to vote for a chia pet in November to get rid of Obama.

Resist We Much on May 24, 2012 at 9:36 PM

No.

But we sure as Hades were not voting for people like Mitt.

Mitt also did to the Catholics what Obama is doing. If you think these GOD loving people will vote for either you have no idea what belief in GOD is.

GOD and GOD alone can save us at this point. Pray and he will but it is highly unlikely he will use Mitt and he will not use Satan (Obama) for sure.

Steveangell on May 24, 2012 at 9:42 PM

Sorry to burst your bubble but my Brother in Law is a Col will most likely be a General within two years and works with many Generals in DC in some very newsworthy situations. All of the Generals he works with are very liberal Democrats. They hate Republicans. They all feel the ends justifies the means. They would just go along.

Now the troops themselves would rebel which is why Biden would have to highly limit the internet as well to keep everyone uninformed. No AM radio and no Internet because some enemy was using it for their means is what I would suppose would be the excuse.

Steveangell on May 24, 2012 at 9:36 PM

There are more privates and sergeants than there are generals.

And, frankly, I can’t believe that anywhere near a majority of the officer corps are libs.

The Internet interprets censorship as damage and routes around it.

Who the heck would Biden USE to seize all the radio stations, with the military mostly not with him? Your typical obese donut-addicted city cop? How will that get you control of an AM station in the country?

Keep in mind that especially if a lot of stations were taken off the air it would only INCREASE the reach of the stations left… You could cover the entire continental USA with TWO 50,000 watt AM stations at night…

wildcat72 on May 24, 2012 at 9:42 PM

If the executive branch FAILED to even hold an election, it could be said that since NO ONE got 270 electoral votes the House of Representatives (which is and will almost certainly remain overwhelmingly conservative) would choose the next President.

wildcat72 on May 24, 2012 at 9:08 PM

I did not know that. Imagi ol’ jugears trying that an getting his azz beat anyhow.

katy the mean old lady on May 24, 2012 at 9:42 PM

justltl on May 24, 2012 at 9:32 PM

Even from hell he would poll 85-90% among blacks and gays.

spiritof61 on May 24, 2012 at 9:43 PM

You know.. after he loses I don’t see him going off into the sunset. I see him going off to China or anywhere else who will have him with a suitcase of secrets.

JellyToast on May 24, 2012 at 9:43 PM

I did not know that. Imagi ol’ jugears trying that an getting his azz beat anyhow.

katy the mean old lady on May 24, 2012 at 9:42 PM

To be sure, it’d go to SCOTUS, but I can’t see SCOTUS allowing a NEGLIGENT executive who failed to even HOLD an election to remain in power past the end of their term even long enough to actually hold an election.

The President would be the Speaker of the House until an election was actually held most likely.

wildcat72 on May 24, 2012 at 9:47 PM

Five more months to go…

… and a long hot summer right in the middle of it.

Seven Percent Solution on May 24, 2012 at 9:48 PM

Keep in mind that especially if a lot of stations were taken off the air it would only INCREASE the reach of the stations left… You could cover the entire continental USA with TWO 50,000 watt AM stations at night…

wildcat72 on May 24, 2012 at 9:42 PM

Not for long we have bombs designed for those.

Obama has cared less about the Constitution and no one has done anything what so ever about it. Recess Appointment making new laws as we speak Illegally. CZARS rulling almost every Agency Illegally. Every Government office campainging for Obama illegally. On and On and On. Those boneheads in DC do nothing. Holder and every one else ignores Congress and Congress just turns the other cheek.

We have a Dictator right now. No one is doing anything about it. Oh wait we nominated a Democrat as the GOP Nominee.

How do people not understand nominating a Democrat means there is no Republican Party. Just like the USSR single party.

Steveangell on May 24, 2012 at 9:49 PM

Law Professor Obama will go back to his old occupation after election defeat. Lecturing the illiterate, illiterately.

kenny on May 24, 2012 at 9:49 PM

Were you asleep doing November of 2010?

I am a libertarian, live in a deep blue state, and would crawl over broken glass to vote for a chia pet in November to get rid of Obama.

Resist We Much on May 24, 2012 at 9:36 PM

Have you been asleep SINCE November 2010? This isn’t 2010 anymore. The TP energy that was there then won’t be there in November. If sooooooo many people were sooooooo fired up to crawl over broken glass and barbed wire to vote AGAINST Obama, Romney would be cruising with at least a 10-point lead in just about every national poll. Needless to say, he isn’t.

ddrintn on May 24, 2012 at 9:54 PM

Not for long we have bombs designed for those.
Steveangell on May 24, 2012 at 9:49 PM

It’s possible to run an AM transmitter on a generator or batteries and use an improvised antenna of copper wire… or even make the station completely mobile.

You wouldn’t be able to broadcast with 50,000 watts, but like I said, the more AM stations go off the air the further the remaining ones would reach at night. On a clear frequency 5,000 watts would be enough to reach A LOT of the United States.

(note: I’ve played with AM transmitters, even own a 50 watt low power one). Hint: that little transmitter can broadcast for hundreds of miles at night with a decent antenna…

Again, who is going to fly the planes to DROP the bombs on a radio station opposing a communist coup?

wildcat72 on May 24, 2012 at 9:55 PM

Can you feel they’re desperation ? They have no poker face. The trolls are very telling. Funny!

Bmore on May 24, 2012 at 9:56 PM

Obama wins like Bush 43 won in 2004 over Kerry, something like 286 electoral votes to 252, although it could be as close as 272 EV to 266 EV.

technopeasant on May 24, 2012 at 9:35 PM

I don’t think it will be that close. I think it will be similar to 2008. I think Obama gets over 300 EVs and a 9-point advantage in the popular vote, something on the order of 53-44-3.

ddrintn on May 24, 2012 at 9:57 PM

I don’t think it will be a slam dunk, but it is doable. Don’t screw it up, Mitt.

Time to get out there with your message. I know Zero and his flunkies have made it easy for you thus far, but you will need to tell us your plan for saving this country in a plain, simple, and effective way. Otherwise, Zero will give away free stuff and raise our taxes, and he could actually win.

Philly on May 24, 2012 at 9:57 PM

f Obama or Biden tried such a thing the military (ie: MARTIAL part of MARTIAL law) would most likely be their greatest enemy!

wildcat72 on May 24, 2012 at 9:16 PM

Just like they were to Hoover when he told them to shut down the Hoovervilles.

I wouldn’t bet the mortgage on your thinking.

chemman on May 24, 2012 at 9:57 PM

What the hell is a Troll? Keep seeing that here.

kenny on May 24, 2012 at 9:59 PM

Can you feel they’re desperation ? They have no poker face. The trolls are very telling. Funny!

Bmore on May 24, 2012 at 9:56 PM

How do you know stuff like this isn’t a head fake to alarm the Dem base? I don’t sense some huge national surge for Romney, any more than there was a couple of months ago. It seems fairly static right now, even with Romney pretty much cruising under the radar.

ddrintn on May 24, 2012 at 10:00 PM

I wouldn’t bet on it except in states like Florida where the GOP is disenfranchising voters , as always.

DBear on May 24, 2012 at 9:12 PM

Ahem

Marist swing-state polls show Romney gaining on Obama

Quinnipiac FL poll puts Romney up by 6, 47/41

Flora Duh on May 24, 2012 at 10:01 PM

What the hell is a Troll? Keep seeing that here.

kenny on May 24, 2012 at 9:59 PM

Anyone who thinks Romney’s not going to kick Obama’s ass.

ddrintn on May 24, 2012 at 10:02 PM

Oh, yeah. They’re gonna lose. That’s a given.

minnesoter on May 24, 2012 at 10:03 PM

wildcat72 on May 24, 2012 at 9:42 PM

Since the 60′s Officer’s needed to have a college degree. Universities are not bastions of conservative thought. Sorry, but the majority of Officers I knew (Air Force Officer Corp.) were liberals.

chemman on May 24, 2012 at 10:03 PM

Some think Obama will need a stronger black turnout in North Carolina, Virginia, Ohio, Florida, and Pennsylvania than he got in 2008 in order to win those states. He’s not going to get that.

Rancher on May 24, 2012 at 10:04 PM

Anyone who thinks Romney’s not going to kick Obama’s ass.

ddrintn on May 24, 2012 at 10:02 PM

Succintly said

kenny on May 24, 2012 at 10:04 PM

The Obama Press will release poll after poll that assures the drones that he has a chance. But how could he? I mean, on how many fronts does he need to make an ass of himself before the dinosaurs understand?

minnesoter on May 24, 2012 at 10:06 PM

Since the 60′s Officer’s needed to have a college degree. Universities are not bastions of conservative thought. Sorry, but the majority of Officers I knew (Air Force Officer Corp.) were liberals.

chemman on May 24, 2012 at 10:03 PM

I have family in the military. They still promote NCO’s to officers via OCS training programs.

True, they end up with what is a college degree, but they don’t exactly get the Berkley indoctrination.

wildcat72 on May 24, 2012 at 10:07 PM

Don’t stress, Obots. Barry’s gonna win huge. He’s doing so well, with the economy and saving women from themselves, that it is going to be a landslide. His numbers are so huge, you don’t even have to wake up to go to the poll on November 7th. It is in the BAG!

Now just go on back to your bongs, and don’t worry about a thing.

Laura in Maryland on May 24, 2012 at 10:08 PM

Again, who is going to fly the planes to DROP the bombs on a radio station opposing a communist coup?

wildcat72 on May 24, 2012 at 9:55 PM

I will bet you believe in GOD.

Well so do I. Obama will not win but Mitt is NOT the answer.

GOD is the only answer. GOD will save us this year. GOD will save America from Obama and the rest of the satanist (left).

But my word.

Why is is that GOD can not be mentioned even here on a right wing site?

Steveangell on May 24, 2012 at 10:09 PM

I wouldn’t bet on it except in states like Florida where the GOP is disenfranchising voters , as always.

DBear on May 24, 2012 at 9:12 PM

Flora Duh on May 24, 2012 at 10:01 PM

It looks like I misunderstood what you were saying at first, but yes, let’s talk about disenfranchised voters in FL.

As many as 53,000 dead people and 182,000 non-U.S. citizens may be registered to vote in Florida

Now why do I have a feeling the majority of them are registered Democrats?

Flora Duh on May 24, 2012 at 10:11 PM

Why is is that GOD can not be mentioned even here on a right wing site?

Steveangell on May 24, 2012 at 10:09 PM

I have faith in our military.

I can’t see them EVER siding with a dictatorial regime seeking to extend itself beyond elections by bombing the American People within our own borders.

Look, even Obama knows this. Why do you think he wanted a “civilian” defense CORPSE that is “as well funded” as the military?

Obama may think the military fights “on his behalf” but they don’t. They aren’t his personal army.

wildcat72 on May 24, 2012 at 10:12 PM

What the hell is a Troll? Keep seeing that here.

kenny on May 24, 2012 at 9:59 PM

In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forums … Source

Flora Duh on May 24, 2012 at 10:13 PM

Have I said this today?…. Landslide!

faraway on May 24, 2012 at 10:13 PM

And Romney’s big selling point, of course, was electability, so there was also never much reason for Democrats to think they’d win easily among the center.

Romney’s big selling point is competency borne of intelligence and industry. Throw in his values, humility and decency and you have the makings of a great President.

Basilsbest on May 24, 2012 at 10:14 PM

Obama’s doing so bad, even Rick Perry would be ahead of him by now.

faraway on May 24, 2012 at 10:15 PM

Law Professor Obama will go back to his old occupation after election defeat. Lecturing the illiterate, illiterately.

kenny on May 24, 2012 at 9:49 PM

LOLz kenny.

ted c on May 24, 2012 at 10:16 PM

Carter had his post-Nixon cardigan sweater. Obama has his post-Bush golfing polo. …

minnesoter on May 24, 2012 at 10:16 PM

What the hell is a Troll? Keep seeing that here.
 
kenny on May 24, 2012 at 9:59 PM

 
Here’s a random grab. It’s surprisingly in-depth and well written:
 
http://communitiesonline.homestead.com/dealingwithtrolls.html

rogerb on May 24, 2012 at 10:17 PM

True, they end up with what is a college degree, but they don’t exactly get the Berkley indoctrination.

wildcat72 on May 24, 2012 at 10:07 PM

Not then possibly.

But my brother in law saw how the conservatives were weeded out mostly. He made sure that his conservatives he rated rated poorly as did his liberal friends. This is a new thing in the Military started by GW Bush.

As I have been saying this is a well laid out plan. GW Bush was a big part of it as he was free in his second term. I am not saying these people conspire with each other. No not at all they just listen to Satan he is the one with the plan. He deceives every single one of us just some more than others. This is a fight of GOD vs Satan. We demean it by calling it Right vs Left.

Obama is Satanic just as bad as Hitler in my opinion. An Anti-Christ like many others before them the Popes throughout the Dark Ages for example. But he is far to stupid to be the Anti-Christ people think of from the bible. Not successful enough either.

Steveangell on May 24, 2012 at 10:18 PM

“0bama will win re-election easily because Romney is a flip-flopping ultra-conservative Mormon moderate religious fanatic and cold-hearted businessman, and 0bama slow jams the news. 0bama is teh coolest.”

That, in a nutshell, is what progressive commentors on various left-wing sites say on the topic of the 2012 election.

When the economy is discussed, they fall back on “it’s all Bush’s fault”.

Basically, the left has nothing but their own delusions to offer as reasons why 0bama will win this fall. Problem is, there might be enough deluded voters out there to make that work.

MidniteRambler on May 24, 2012 at 10:19 PM

Oops. I defer to Flora Duh in my lateness.

rogerb on May 24, 2012 at 10:20 PM

The President would be the Speaker of the House until an election was actually held most likely.

wildcat72 on May 24, 2012 at 9:47 PM

We can change the locks, rescue the dog, and frisk the pair of them?

katy the mean old lady on May 24, 2012 at 10:22 PM

Not then possibly.

But my brother in law saw how the conservatives were weeded out mostly. He made sure that his conservatives he rated rated poorly as did his liberal friends. This is a new thing in the Military started by GW Bush.
As I have been saying this is a well laid out plan. GW Bush was a big part of it as he was free in his second term. I am not saying these people conspire with each other. No not at all they just listen to Satan he is the one with the plan. He deceives every single one of us just some more than others. This is a fight of GOD vs Satan. We demean it by calling it Right vs Left.

Obama is Satanic just as bad as Hitler in my opinion. An Anti-Christ like many others before them the Popes throughout the Dark Ages for example. But he is far to stupid to be the Anti-Christ people think of from the bible. Not successful enough either.

Steveangell on May 24, 2012 at 10:18 PM

Wow. What color is the sky in your little slice of this world?

ManWithNoParty on May 24, 2012 at 10:24 PM

Romney’s big selling point is competency borne of intelligence and industry. Throw in his values, humility and decency and you have the makings of a great President.

Basilsbest on May 24, 2012 at 10:14 PM

Still hustling a slot in the Romney administration I see. Stay away from Cartagena.

kenny on May 24, 2012 at 10:25 PM

True, they end up with what is a college degree, but they don’t exactly get the Berkley indoctrination.

wildcat72 on May 24, 2012 at 10:07 PM

Thank you.

I will bookmark that.

Far too often people here have called me that simply because they disagree with me.

Fact is many threads I do not comment on because others have said what I feel better than I could anyway.

Unfortunately this year few people have actually looked at what Ronmey did in Mass as Gov. and the fact he moved from a Conservative state (Utah) to Mass to run there having not lived there for three years even having to use a bogus address of a house neither he or any member of his family ever lived in (investment property). The real Mitt is a diehard Democrat to the left of almost all other Democrats.

Steveangell on May 24, 2012 at 10:25 PM

The Obama Press will release poll after poll that assures the drones that he has a chance. But how could he? I mean, on how many fronts does he need to make an ass of himself before the dinosaurs understand?

minnesoter on May 24, 2012 at 10:06 PM

Can’t wait for election night, when ABCCBSNBCCNN… scolds the country for denying Obama a second term.

Jurisprudence on May 24, 2012 at 10:26 PM

Wow. What color is the sky in your little slice of this world?

ManWithNoParty on May 24, 2012 at 10:24 PM

Now I know who stole Fat Alice’s treasured weed stash.

katy the mean old lady on May 24, 2012 at 10:27 PM

Oops. I defer to Flora Duh in my lateness.

rogerb on May 24, 2012 at 10:20 PM

No need to take any of it seriously. It is what it is. right?

kenny on May 24, 2012 at 10:29 PM

Be ware the lame duck POTUS, my children. We better be ready to clean up a big mess if One-bama loses.

NickDeringer on May 24, 2012 at 8:06 PM

We’d better be ready to arrest him if he starts issuing unconsitutional edicts.

Nowhere in the Constitution does it say that the president is authorized to hold a “lose-your-lease” party and trash the place on the way out.

cane_loader on May 24, 2012 at 10:30 PM

Since the 60′s Officer’s needed to have a college degree. Universities are not bastions of conservative thought. Sorry, but the majority of Officers I knew (Air Force Officer Corp.) were liberals.

chemman on May 24, 2012 at 10:03 PM

That’s interesting chemman. My military experience extends back through the 60s. I know a lot of officer types and senior NCOs, mostly Navy and Marine. They are almost all rabidly conservative. Had breakfast with about 20 of my old retired friends not long ago. Most of us have a military background. Nobody at the table would even consider voting for Obama in November.

Oldnuke on May 24, 2012 at 10:30 PM

No need to take any of it seriously. It is what it is. right?
 
kenny on May 24, 2012 at 10:29 PM

 
Yeah, we’re all friends here. I still try to not look like I’m one-upping or (worse to me) not reading other posters’ submissions.

rogerb on May 24, 2012 at 10:33 PM

I think that Obama is doomed to lose because “Hope and Change” has turned out, after four years, to be “Angst and Socialism.”

minnesoter on May 24, 2012 at 10:34 PM

Have you been asleep SINCE November 2010? This isn’t 2010 anymore. The TP energy that was there then won’t be there in November.

Oh, yes, it will. Republicans already have a double-digit lead in the enthusiasm gap.

If sooooooo many people were sooooooo fired up to crawl over broken glass and barbed wire to vote AGAINST Obama, Romney would be cruising with at least a 10-point lead in just about every national poll. Needless to say, he isn’t.

Actually, I disagree. I would be shocked if Romney or any challenger was posting a 10 point lead on an incumbent POTUS this soon after a primary. Carter had a 6 point advantage in October before Reagan beat him by 10. Bush I led Clinton by 19 going into the Summer.

The majority of Americans are not political junkies like we are. They do not start paying attention until the Labour Day and the conventions.

As for the polls, be sure to pay attention to whether they are registered voters or likely voters. LVs give you a more accurate picture. Once Labour Day comes around, all major polls switch to LVs.

I’ve been doing a lot of research and look at data sets on polls going back to 1952. Obama is not nearly as strong as many believe. He has a big time problem with white, blue-collar union workers, especially in Appalachia and the Midwest.

I don’t make predictions on elections, especially this far out, but anyone who believes that this race is over is delusional.

Resist We Much on May 24, 2012 at 10:34 PM

Can you feel they’re desperation ? They have no poker face. The trolls are very telling. Funny!

Bmore on May 24, 2012 at 9:56 PM

“Eric, don’t call my bluff… “ – Obowma

Seven Percent Solution on May 24, 2012 at 10:39 PM

When they lose, The Obamas will graciously concede and wish the best to the country and its new President.

Or they will both shriek and wail so loudly that their howls of agony will echo throughout DC as they both sprout horns, fangs and devil tails. Mooch will rend an American flag into shreds. Obama will roll the Constitution into a giant doobie. They will then gallop on all fours from the White House grounds, gnashing their teeth and biting at each other and passersby. The gates of hell will open before them, and they will gallop through them as flames and thunderous noise echoes from the gates. A crowd of witnesses to this apocalyptic scene will briefly stare at each other dumbfoundedly then break out in huzzahs and raucous applause and rejoicing. A rainbow will arc over the White House- even if it is night time.

justltl on May 24, 2012 at 9:32 PM

OK dude, I hereby bestow upon you the “Fear and Loathing” award for best imitation of Hunter S. Thompson.

Did you nick that, or did you write it?

That’s the closest approximation to HST I have seen since his passing!

cane_loader on May 24, 2012 at 10:40 PM

Can’t wait for election night, when ABCCBSNBCCNN… scolds the country for denying Obama a second term.

Jurisprudence on May 24, 2012 at 10:26 PM

Yeah, me too, even as their media businesses slide into insolvency.

After Obama leaves office for the 1% lecture circuit, his champions in the press will feel the cold.

minnesoter on May 24, 2012 at 10:43 PM

Obama’s campaign has definitive fissures. Finally under pressures those cracks are starting to show. This will be about substance. Obama has none concerning the economy. Still after being president for 3 1/2 years.

Stay on message.

rubberneck on May 24, 2012 at 10:43 PM

Obama’s doing so bad, even Rick Steve Perry would be ahead of him by now.

faraway on May 24, 2012 at 10:15 PM

FIFY

Laura in Maryland on May 24, 2012 at 10:43 PM

No. But we sure as Hades were not voting for people like Mitt.
Steveangell on May 24, 2012 at 9:42 PM

I sure as hell was. I was voting for a restraining order. I was voting and sending money to anyone that could stop the Prog steamroller that disregarded the opinion of the majority of Americans. Time was of the essence.

Mitt also did to the Catholics what Obama is doing. If you think these GOD loving people will vote for either you have no idea what belief in GOD is.

So Catholics are going to vote for the guy who is pro-abortion, pro-SSM, and pro-making Catholic institution provide birth control, abortifacients and sterilisations to their employees and students???

An April poll from Pew reported that Obama’s approval among non-Hispanic Catholics dropped from 45% in March to 37% in April, while Catholic support for Romney rose from 51% to 57%.

GOD and GOD alone can save us at this point. Pray and he will but it is highly unlikely he will use Mitt and he will not use Satan (Obama) for sure.

I’m an atheist, but I support your right to pray as you wish.

Resist We Much on May 24, 2012 at 10:45 PM

Bad news: Obama campaign starting to think they might lose

it is a feature .. not a bug ….

conservative tarheel on May 24, 2012 at 10:46 PM

Why is is that GOD can not be mentioned even here on a right wing site?
Steveangell on May 24, 2012 at 10:09 PM

Because, Steve, even the Right only looks at things from a human point of view.

Cleombrotus on May 24, 2012 at 10:47 PM

It’s so bad even sleazy Eric Holder is threatening that he will have the Panthers beat anyone senseless who doesn’t write in Mickey Mouse on his latest trainload of fake ballots.

viking01 on May 24, 2012 at 10:48 PM

I’m an atheist, but I support your right to pray as you wish.

Resist We Much on May 24, 2012 at 10:45 PM

The sin of Pride little girl The worst of all.

kenny on May 24, 2012 at 10:50 PM

“Bad news,” Allah?

Anything unfavorable to that empty suit piece-of-garbage phony messiah that the loony left adores is GREAT NEWS.

MisterElephant on May 24, 2012 at 10:52 PM

Now I know who stole Fat Alice’s treasured weed stash.

katy the mean old lady on May 24, 2012 at 10:27 PM

LOL!

ManWithNoParty on May 24, 2012 at 10:54 PM

Team Obie could be desperately trying to rally the troops but I think his campaign is in serious trouble!..:)

PS..Team Romney has run an excellent campaign so far!..:)

Dire Straits on May 24, 2012 at 10:54 PM

The sin of Pride little girl The worst of all.

kenny on May 24, 2012 at 10:50 PM

I support and will defend your right to pray and practise your faith, too.

Sorry that you can’t return the favour of honouring my own decisions and choices as I do those that you make. Such is life.

Resist We Much on May 24, 2012 at 10:56 PM

Obama’s campaign has definitive fissures. Finally under pressures those cracks are starting to show. This will be about substance. Obama has none concerning the economy. Still after being president for 3 1/2 years.

Stay on message.

rubberneck on May 24, 2012 at 10:43 PM

Yes, this is right. Obama has no record to run on. All he has is his phony grin and his hip speak. And Moochelle.

minnesoter on May 24, 2012 at 10:56 PM

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