The Blaze: “Hustler” smears S.E. Cupp; Update: Planned Parenthood, Sandra Fluke denounce

posted at 1:23 pm on May 23, 2012 by Allahpundit

Follow the link to see what I mean. Pure degradation, and not the first time an “adult magazine” has taken special aim at conservative women. Playboy did it too with their “hate f***” piece in 2009, but that got pulled after the outcry threatened the mag’s reputation for being kinda sorta respectable. How do you shame “Hustler,” though?

Better question: Can she sue? My gut reaction was no, partly because “Hustler” has famously been down this constitutional road before and came out a big winner. But note the fine print in that decision:

This case presents us with a novel question involving First Amendment limitations upon a State’s authority to protect its citizens from the intentional infliction of emotional distress. We must decide whether a public figure may recover damages for emotional harm caused by the publication of an ad parody offensive to him, and doubtless gross and repugnant in the eyes of most. Respondent would have us find that a State’s interest in protecting public figures from emotional distress is sufficient to deny First Amendment protection to speech that is patently offensive and is intended to inflict emotional injury, even when that speech could not reasonably have been interpreted as stating actual facts about the public figure involved. This we decline to do…

We conclude that public figures and public officials may not recover for the tort of intentional infliction of emotional distress by reason of publications such as the one here at issue without showing in addition that the publication contains a false statement of fact which was made with “actual malice,” i. e., with knowledge that the statement was false or with reckless disregard as to whether or not it was true.

The image in the Falwell case was a caricature; no one could have mistaken it for reality. A photoshop is different. The question for the court would be whether the disclaimer that “Hustler” posted alongside the image of Cupp is enough to make clear that it’s a parody or whether, in the age of the Internet and Google Images, the image has to be considered in isolation. (In that case, would they be off the hook if they simply slapped a “Satire” label in the corner of the image itself? Probably.) A separate question is what claim(s) Cupp would assert and whether the legal standards for each would be materially different. Remember, the Falwell case wasn’t a defamation claim, it was a claim of intentional infliction of emotional distress, although the legal touchstone that a public figure needs to show “actual malice” is the same in both. Could Cupp show that “Hustler” had reckless disregard for the truth here notwithstanding the big disclaimer next to the photoshop? It’d be a heavy lift, but we might get to find out.

Here she is chatting with Beck about it this morning. Exit quotation from her statement to The Blaze: “The outrage of Sandra Fluke will not be matched on my side. It seems that feminism has devolved into an institution that has picked losers and winners and has decided that some women qualify for respect and other women do not.”

Update: This is starting to get some movement on the left now, with Planned Parenthood and Sandra Fluke tweeting their condemnations of “Hustler.”


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There are a lot of conservatives pundits out there. I don’t consider S. E. Cupp a prominent one but that’s always a subjective thing.

Dr. Tesla on May 23, 2012 at 4:25 PM

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Touche.

listens2glenn on May 23, 2012 at 4:29 PM

t8stlikchkn on May 23, 2012 at 4:26 PM

And you’ll have to prove what is in the pics.

mankai on May 23, 2012 at 4:30 PM

Armin Tamzarian on May 23, 2012 at 4:29 PM

So your position is that John Adams (noted anti-papist) was all for legalized abortion?

mankai on May 23, 2012 at 4:32 PM

Update: This is starting to get some movement on the left now, with Planned Parenthood and Sandra Fluke tweeting their condemnations of “Hustler.”

OK, well good for them on this.

rbj on May 23, 2012 at 4:33 PM

And you’ll have to prove what is in the pics.

mankai on May 23, 2012 at 4:30 PM

Dude. Seriously. You’re really starting to give off an angryed sort of vibe, obsessing over someone’s mother/wife for hours on end.

Just sayin’

MNHawk on May 23, 2012 at 4:33 PM

Madcon, it’s not always not satire/comedy. You want to creat a false choice b/c you have a bugg up your butt about me. But I’m not the reason why you aren’t posting in the Green Room no more. Wasn’t my decision.

Dr. Tesla on May 23, 2012 at 4:33 PM

Shameful of Hustler, but what do you expect from Hustler? Hardly shocking.

Nice to see PP and Fluke at least feign defending a conservative woman.

And lastly… MEEEEEOOOOOWWWW! I do enjoy S. E. Cupp. A gorgeous woman, an atheist who defends religious freedom, and a seemingly very intelligent conservative… my kinda woman. I very much enjoy reading her articles. :)

gravityman on May 23, 2012 at 4:34 PM

Earlier:

The Telsa guy is a troll. He was trolling me and a few others on a thread about bullying a while back (see example). I think he takes a contrarian position just to get attention.

TigerPaw on May 23, 2012 at 4:24 PM

Yep, confirmed by the troll himself (emphasis added by me):

I prefer posting on Mediaite b/c they don’t ban anybody and it’s mostly a bunch of liberals who I can tweak and that’s what make commenting fun, stirring the pot.

Dr. Tesla on May 23, 2012 at 3:58 PM

Why is this guy still permitted to post on Hot Air?

TigerPaw on May 23, 2012 at 4:35 PM

What does S.E. stand for? S.E. Cupp kind of sounds like a female porn star name. You got to admit it does.

Dr. Tesla on May 23, 2012 at 3:33 PM

You’re thinking of D.D.D. Cupp.

The Rogue Tomato on May 23, 2012 at 3:37 PM

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Good grief.

I trust the women in your lives, your mothers especially, are proud.
If you were my sons/daughters, I wouldn’t be.

OldChick on May 23, 2012 at 4:36 PM

My joke about S.E. Cupp pre-dates this Hustler story, I’m not bouncing off this specific story for the joke. I’ve always thought this from the first time I heard the name S.E. Cupp.

Dr. Tesla on May 23, 2012 at 4:36 PM

You want to creat a false choice b/c you have a bugg up your butt about me.

Dr. Tesla on May 23, 2012 at 4:33 PM

You’re challenging me to fistfights over the internet, but I’m the one who has the problem. Got it.

MadisonConservative on May 23, 2012 at 4:37 PM

MNHawk on May 23, 2012 at 4:33 PM

His position is that doing what Hustler did to S.E. is OK because it’s joke… while chastising those of us who are offended on her behalf… because he’s such an awesome Libertarian.

Just seeing if he really means it.

mankai on May 23, 2012 at 4:37 PM

So your position is that John Adams (noted anti-papist) was all for legalized abortion?

mankai on May 23, 2012 at 4:32 PM

My position is that they had no moral qualms whatsoever with abortion, like the rest of the non-Catholic Western world at the time, and did not see it as an issue that needed to be handled at the federal level at all.

Compare this to so-called “conservatives” today who want the federal government to step in and regulate an issue that the founding fathers never could have possibly imagined would ever be a matter of federal importance.

Armin Tamzarian on May 23, 2012 at 4:37 PM

You don’t know how to post pictures on the internet?

mankai on May 23, 2012 at 4:29 PM

no man. am i supposed to? so how do you do it? i dont want to keep you waiting. i found a picture. its after she got out of chemo, and her hair has grown back.

t8stlikchkn on May 23, 2012 at 4:37 PM

Why didn’t they push for its legalization in the Bill of Rights?

mankai on May 23, 2012 at 4:22 PM

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They probably didn’t anticipate the Catholic Church getting its hooks in the country’s society and legal system the way it has and therefore could never have imagined an organized movement to ban something that was seen as perfectly acceptable.

Armin Tamzarian on May 23, 2012 at 4:29 PM

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(EXPLETIVE).

The Founding Fathers were MUCH more puritanical if their beliefs than today’s Vatican.

I don’t doubt abortion was carried out in the 1700s, but it was RARE, and the participants shut up about it.

No Doctor of that day and time was overtly advertising abortion services.

listens2glenn on May 23, 2012 at 4:37 PM

My joke about S.E. Cupp pre-dates this Hustler story…

Dr. Tesla on May 23, 2012 at 4:36 PM

There are lies, there are bad lies, there are whoppers, and then there’s you, Dr. T.

Don’t ever change.

MadisonConservative on May 23, 2012 at 4:38 PM

Why is this guy still permitted to post on Hot Air?

TigerPaw on May 23, 2012 at 4:35 PM

You seem uptight. I say far worse things on a liberal website Mediaite and they don’t care and nobody calls for me to be banned.

You complain about bullies but bullying is what you are doing here.

Are you a Clemson grad? B/c I am, and I’ll be sad if they gave you a degree. :)

Dr. Tesla on May 23, 2012 at 4:38 PM

Just seeing if he really means it.

mankai on May 23, 2012 at 4:37 PM

yeah, i meant it. now you gotta send me directions and do your part. lets go.

t8stlikchkn on May 23, 2012 at 4:38 PM

I see Flynt’s getting exactly the reaction and attention he hoped for.

Crusty on May 23, 2012 at 4:24 PM

Pure PR gold. I guarantee you. Both Cupp and Beck will milk this for all it’s worth, as it’s PR gold for them, also.

MNHawk on May 23, 2012 at 4:38 PM

t8stlikchkn on May 23, 2012 at 4:37 PM

You lose… and you’re a hypocrite.

Now you can shut up and let the rest of us be offended on S.E.’s behalf.

mankai on May 23, 2012 at 4:39 PM

I can sincerely say that I didn’t think my joke about S.E Cupp’s name soundingn like a porn star name would get this much attention. What is the big deal?

Dr. Tesla on May 23, 2012 at 4:39 PM

if you tell me how to do it, i’ve never done that before. i will do it for you. if it makes you happy. send me instructions and you got it.

t8stlikchkn on May 23, 2012 at 4:26 PM

I think mankai has more than proved his point with you:

You obviously would not find it funny or a mere joke or harmless prank if a national publication photoshopped an image of a female loved one (your mom, an aunt, daughter, sister, whomever) and added obscene aspects to it.

Just concede this point, stop dancing around it, and move on already, please.

TigerPaw on May 23, 2012 at 4:39 PM

Dude. Seriously. You’re really starting to give off an angryed sort of vibe, obsessing over someone’s mother/wife for hours on end.

Just sayin’

MNHawk on May 23, 2012 at 4:33 PM

yeah, tell me about it. but hey, he’s not a libertarian, and he gets offender by vile jokes. so lets help him out here. this may be therapeutic for him. and i am gonna leasrn how to put a picture on the internet. i have been wondering about that for years.

t8stlikchkn on May 23, 2012 at 4:40 PM

You complain about bullies but bullying is what you are doing here.

Dr. Tesla on May 23, 2012 at 4:38 PM

We can settle this like the high school kids do. You are nevver too old for a beatdown. I tell all my boys that.

Dr. Tesla on May 23, 2012 at 3:50 PM

Do you post crap like this for our amusement? As in…is this intentional? I can’t believe you’re this dense.

MadisonConservative on May 23, 2012 at 4:40 PM

Abortion only became illegal in the US in the late 1800′s. If Adams, Jefferson, Madison and Washington had anything against abortion they sure as hell kept it to themselves.

Armin Tamzarian on May 23, 2012 at 4:20 PM

Connecticut made it illegal in 1821. Other states followed suit.

Often, abortion was not illegal in the early part of pregnancy because, absent yet-to-be-invented ultrasounds, it was difficult to prove that the woman was pregnant, that the doctor knew that she was pregnant, and that she didn’t miscarry on her own.

Roxeanne de Luca on May 23, 2012 at 4:41 PM

Just concede this point, stop dancing around it, and move on already, please.

TigerPaw on May 23, 2012 at 4:39 PM

concede what point man? that i MUST be offended? or i hate women? or it was tasteless and vile and cant be funny? what is the point? he obsesses about my wifes picture. weirdly. i’ll humor him. maybe it will help him out.

t8stlikchkn on May 23, 2012 at 4:42 PM

So your position is that John Adams (noted anti-papist) was all for legalized abortion?

mankai on May 23, 2012 at 4:32 PM

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My position is that they had no moral qualms whatsoever with abortion, like the rest of the non-Catholic Western world at the time, and did not see it as an issue that needed to be handled at the federal level at all.

Armin Tamzarian on May 23, 2012 at 4:37 PM

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What I said in my preceding comment.

listens2glenn on May 23, 2012 at 4:37 PM

listens2glenn on May 23, 2012 at 4:42 PM

Dr. Tesla on May 23, 2012 at 4:38 PM

You’re a troll who I will no longer be responding to on this thread, because that is precisely what you want.

The rest of you are egging him on by responding to him in this thread and others.

He is annoying and an idiot; he is not witty, clever, or funny.

Perhaps if you guys stopped replying, he’d wither and die on the vine.

The moderators at Hot Air should have banned Tesla months ago. There’s nothing stopping them from doing so now.

TigerPaw on May 23, 2012 at 4:43 PM

t8stlikchkn on May 23, 2012 at 4:38 PM

Create an account at photobucket.

And what does it matter if she had chemo (you’re lying anyway, coward)… great Libertarians like you think that jokes are super cool no matter what, right?

Hey, why don’t YOU take the SE Cupp picture and photoshop it yourself? Then you can post it at photobucket just to prove what an awesome freethinker you are!

mankai on May 23, 2012 at 4:43 PM

I post things for my amusement. It interests me what gets people all riled up. It doesn’t take much. I can tweak people on the internet and it’s all harmless stuff. I do not think S. E. Cupp is a porn star, I do not think she is a slut, I do no thtink she is stupid, I only think her name sounds like a porn star name and at least one person here got that. I think part of the reason Huslter decided to go with her on the cover is partlyb/c her name is S.E. Cupp and it does kind of sound like a porn star name. I don’t think that was her intention, but that doesn’t make it less true. :)

Dr. Tesla on May 23, 2012 at 4:44 PM

Are we supposed to applaud Sandra Fluke and Planned Parenthood for condemning… Hustler? As if that places them somewhere in noble territory? As if doing so is courageous?

I bet they’d condemn Hitler and Satan if you pressed them too.

IronDioPriest on May 23, 2012 at 4:45 PM

TigerPaw on May 23, 2012 at 4:39 PM

Thanks.

I’m done.

mankai on May 23, 2012 at 4:45 PM

mankai on May 23, 2012 at 4:43 PM

yes she survived breast cancer in 2006. we passed the 5 year mark in november.

t8stlikchkn on May 23, 2012 at 4:45 PM

The moderators at Hot Air should have banned Tesla months ago.

TigerPaw on May 23, 2012 at 4:43 PM

Oh, he’ll be banned eventually. It took him roughly a half hour to show up before getting comments erased. He never stays for too long, because he always ends up going to far.

MadisonConservative on May 23, 2012 at 4:46 PM

concede what point man? that i MUST be offended? or i hate women? or it was tasteless and vile and cant be funny? what is the point? he obsesses about my wifes picture. weirdly. i’ll humor him. maybe it will help him out.

t8stlikchkn on May 23, 2012 at 4:42 PM

That you are wrong and hypocrite: if Hustler printed a photoshopped image of your (insert name of female loved one here) sucking on a male’s genitalia as they did with S E Cupp, you would not find it funny or a joke, nor would you be defending the magazine.

I made this point quite clearly in my last post, and that you’re acting obtuse about it now tells me you are either
1. very, very stupid or
2. a troll too, like the other guy in the thread.

TigerPaw on May 23, 2012 at 4:46 PM

Look, I’ve been in trouble with Ed and Allah before. I can be an adult about it and if they have a problem with me, all they got to do is ask and I won’t post on here. I don’t see what the problem is, I’m justI a guy having some fun on the internet. Nobody will get hurt. I’m very good natured and I think I’m pretty funny on here but other people are super serioues about stuff.

Dr. Tesla on May 23, 2012 at 4:46 PM

concede what point man? that i MUST be offended? or i hate women? or it was tasteless and vile and cant be funny? what is the point? he obsesses about my wifes picture. weirdly. i’ll humor him. maybe it will help him out.

t8stlikchkn on May 23, 2012 at 4:42 PM

Okay, Greasy Troll. One more just because I think it needs to be said in general:

This isn’t a joke. It wasn’t meant to be funny in any shape, way or form. There is no intent towards humor, parody or whatnot.

The intent of this was to demean and diminish this woman because she is saying words that they do not like. They want to show her that this is her only “purpose” and all is she is good for.

There is no good humor, no genuine affection or even perceived affection in this. This is the equivalent of the left’s “hate scr*w” and a show of dominance and force.

Sorry you don’t and simply can’t understand that.

kim roy on May 23, 2012 at 4:47 PM

t8stlikchkn on May 23, 2012 at 4:45 PM

So what? A joke’s a joke, right?

That’s your standard, not mine.

Hypocrite. You try to evoke sympathy while offering none for S.E. or for her loved ones and while mocking those of us who are offended on her behalf.

mankai on May 23, 2012 at 4:49 PM

Do you post crap like this for our amusement? As in…is this intentional? I can’t believe you’re this dense.

MadisonConservative on May 23, 2012 at 4:40 PM

Send Ed or Allah an email, he’s a pain in the arse and his “schtick” got old a long time ago…

Tim Zank on May 23, 2012 at 4:50 PM

Are we supposed to applaud Sandra Fluke and Planned Parenthood for condemning… Hustler? As if that places them somewhere in noble territory? As if doing so is courageous?

I bet they’d condemn Hitler and Satan if you pressed them too.

IronDioPriest on May 23, 2012 at 4:45 PM

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Well, Hitler anyway.

I doubt they believe in Satan.

listens2glenn on May 23, 2012 at 4:51 PM

It’s called parody and Falwell lost that case already.

You might have heard about it.

Moesart on May 23, 2012 at 1:31 PM

True, Falwell lost, but that image was obviously parody and not intended to portray a false image. I’m not so sure about this juvenile, disgusting display. What do you suppose the left would say if, oh I don’t know, a picture of Michele Obama with a big ole d*ck in her mouth was published with the question “What would Michele look like with a d*ck in her mouth?” Do you suppose she would sit back and laugh it off as S.E. Cupp is doing with much more class and grace? I doubt it.

Larry Flynt isn’t worthy to grace the bottoms of my shoes he is that low. What an azzhole.

totherightofthem on May 23, 2012 at 4:51 PM

I think the problem is they used to run MadCon’s stuff and nobody is more vulgar and crass then Mad Con. So there is the “double standard” thing, or in this case, a kind of free pass for Mad Con for his f bombs and other comments, while people want to string me up for making a harmless joke about the name S. E. Cupp. I laugh when I see the name. It’s not personall to Miss S. E. Cupp as I know very little about her. She would laugh too, I think.

Dr. Tesla on May 23, 2012 at 4:53 PM

Send Ed or Allah an email, he’s a pain in the arse and his “schtick” got old a long time ago…

Tim Zank on May 23, 2012 at 4:50 PM

I e-mailed Ed about it awhile back, but that guy is still on here, trolling away, and he’s already admitted he’s trolling in the last 3 or 4 posts he’s made on this thread: he finds it amusing to act like a juvenile on these threads and hack people off. He’s admitted that trolling and intentionally creating discord is his purpose and intent.

TigerPaw on May 23, 2012 at 4:54 PM

Send Ed or Allah an email, he’s a pain in the arse and his “schtick” got old a long time ago…

Tim Zank on May 23, 2012 at 4:50 PM

Did quite a while ago. Like I said, be patient. He can’t go for very long before he steps over the line again.

MadisonConservative on May 23, 2012 at 4:54 PM

Flora Duh on May 23, 2012 at 3:55 PM

…well…he did show awesome restraint on all the geh threads!…Usually sirens would go off at that word…and he ‘alone’ was good for a 500 comment thread!

KOOLAID2 on May 23, 2012 at 4:56 PM

What if they’d photoshop such a picture with Michelle Obama, with that in her mouth, because it might not be “fattening”?

Schadenfreude on May 23, 2012 at 1:45 PM

Got to it before me. ;)

totherightofthem on May 23, 2012 at 4:56 PM

So what? A joke’s a joke, right?

That’s your standard, not mine.

Hypocrite. You try to evoke sympathy while offering none for S.E. or for her loved ones and while mocking those of us who are offended on her behalf.

mankai on May 23, 2012 at 4:49 PM

its cool man. i have an account setup now. i am sorry you are offended. i wasnt that offended. but i shouldnt have said anything. the account is setup. what do you need now. i wasnt being hypocritical. i really wasnt offended. and i really didnt understand the outrageous outrage. i dont hate women. and i dont mistreat women. if you think i do becuase i was not offended all i can tell you is that you are wrong. you can call me a liar if you want to. but i am not. again. sorry you were so upset. i saw the picture as a tasteless vile joke. but didnt take offense. and would have smirked if they had replaced se cupps face with hillarys, attacked the member to bill, and had her bite down. since she figurartively has been doing that for years. i saw humor there. i surely didnt mean to cause you harm and get you riled up. it was very weird to me that pople were all whacked about this. i really didnt see it. thats about it.

t8stlikchkn on May 23, 2012 at 4:57 PM

I feel like I’m getting bullied like that kid in NC. Yet they want to suspend me. :)

Well, this is probably not going to end well for me. The mob almost always wins on the internet playground. :)

Dr. Tesla on May 23, 2012 at 4:58 PM

Dr. Tesla on May 23, 2012 at 4:53 PM

I don’t make jokes like that. When a woman is slandered in such a way, I find it appalling. You find it to be an occasion to ponder whether the slander fits, through “jokes”.

Meanwhile, I swear. Whoopty f**king doo. I never cease to be amazed at people who will bawl their eyes out over a “curse word”, but blithely joke about a porn magazine sleazily defacing a woman’s image because they disagree with her political views.

MadisonConservative on May 23, 2012 at 4:58 PM

I feel like I’m getting bullied…

Dr. Tesla on May 23, 2012 at 4:58 PM

We can settle this like the high school kids do. You are nevver too old for a beatdown. I tell all my boys that.

Dr. Tesla on May 23, 2012 at 3:50 PM

MadisonConservative on May 23, 2012 at 4:59 PM

Nobody’s falsely accused me of bringing up gay marriage or other gay stuff. I guess some people have evolved in their lynch mob tactics. :)

Dr. Tesla on May 23, 2012 at 4:59 PM

I e-mailed Ed about it awhile back, but that guy is still on here, trolling away, and he’s already admitted he’s trolling in the last 3 or 4 posts he’s made on this thread: he finds it amusing to act like a juvenile on these threads and hack people off. He’s admitted that trolling and intentionally creating discord is his purpose and intent.

TigerPaw on May 23, 2012 at 4:54 PM

libfreeordie admitted the same in another thread. I guess that’s not enough for Ed or Allah.

MadisonConservative on May 23, 2012 at 5:00 PM

Madcon,

How is challenging you to a fight behind the walmart in Madison bullying you. Yo don’t seem to like me so I figured you would go for this to resolve our differences.

Dr. Tesla on May 23, 2012 at 5:00 PM

Madcon,

I remember you attacking Miss Tina Korbe quite a bit. I actually was ganged up by the typical lynch mobbers on here for defending Miss Tina Korbe and poking fun of some bimbo who was henpecking Miss Tina Korbe. Doesn’t seem like the other 2 guys at Hotair would hate me for saying positive things about one of the three who write here.

Dr. Tesla on May 23, 2012 at 5:03 PM

I remember you attacking Miss Tina Korbe quite a bit.

Dr. Tesla on May 23, 2012 at 5:03 PM

No, you don’t. I criticized her writing quality. I never attacked her or criticized her personally.

MadisonConservative on May 23, 2012 at 5:05 PM

I think Tina was the best writer on here. She’s younger than me and sometimes seemed a little hazy on stuff that happened in the 1990s but I think her writing skills got the job done. If you want fluffy writing there is always Peggy Noonan. :)

Dr. Tesla on May 23, 2012 at 5:07 PM

Armin – Christians across the denominations (and Jews) were pro-life from way, way back. That there weren’t laws on the books about it, and that it may not have been a particularly prominent issue, doesn’t men there wasn’t a doctrinal position against it.

krome on May 23, 2012 at 5:07 PM

We can settle this like the high school kids do. You are nevver too old for a beatdown. I tell all my boys that.

Dr. Tesla on May 23, 2012 at 3:50 PM

Will Ed or Allah please ban this person?

John the Libertarian on May 23, 2012 at 5:09 PM

Ref: Update.

Courage on a scale of 1 to 10 by PP and SF jumped from -10 to -9.

BKeyser on May 23, 2012 at 5:10 PM

Hustler is crap. The photoshopped photo is crap. Larry Flint is crap. I happen to like S E Cupp. I am not biased in this instance however. This stuff happens all the time, just google Palin and hit images. Does S E Cupp deserve this because of her philosophical viewpoint. No. But then deserve has nothing to do with it.

Bmore on May 23, 2012 at 5:11 PM

If only SE Cupp had Van Jones on her side he’d organize an assault on Hustler and go after their advertisers via the Color of Change or some such group, and Media Matters would be pushing this strategy far and wide.

Buy Danish on May 23, 2012 at 5:12 PM

MadCon, are you one of Robert Stacy McCain’s friends on here who thought he was overlooked for the writing gig that Tina got? RSM opined it was only b/c she was female with a face for Fox News but there seems some jealousy in that. I do think that kind of criticism is why she left, or part of it.

Dr. Tesla on May 23, 2012 at 5:12 PM

I tell all my boys that.

Dr. Tesla on May 23, 2012 at 3:50 PM

He’s got kids? WTF?

I thought he was ten.

hillbillyjim on May 23, 2012 at 5:13 PM

Nobody’s falsely accused me of bringing up gay marriage or other gay stuff. I guess some people have evolved in their lynch mob tactics. :)

Dr. Tesla on May 23, 2012 at 4:59 PM

….YOU LIE…!!!

KOOLAID2 on May 23, 2012 at 5:13 PM

How do you get offended by Hustler magazine? It’s one thing if a some what respectable magazine does something questionable but when a questionable magazine with a history of doing questionable things does something questionable. Getting overly upset about it seems over the edge.

And Dr. Telsa

I thought the name joke was funny, simply because I thought the same thing.

I think all of you in outrage over that joke need to lighten up. Take the street you grew up on and your last name and VIOLA! you now have your own special adult name haha.

Politricks on May 23, 2012 at 5:14 PM

He’s got kids? WTF?

I thought he was ten.

hillbillyjim on May 23, 2012 at 5:13 PM

…noooooo!…the boys that tie him to the bed…

KOOLAID2 on May 23, 2012 at 5:14 PM

Will Ed or Allah please ban this person?

John the Libertarian on May 23, 2012 at 5:09 PMWill Ed or Allah p

Am I the only perso on here who thinks it’s funny that two self described Liberterians on here, Madcon and John the LIBERTARIAN always call for me to be banned? I think you are missing the point of liberterianism.

Ban me for what exactly? Making fun of high school kids who meet up behind walmart to fight each other after school? B/c that’s all that was. :)

Dr. Tesla on May 23, 2012 at 5:15 PM

We can settle this like the high school kids do. You are nevver too old for a beatdown. I tell all my boys that.

Dr. Tesla on May 23, 2012 at 3:50 PM

Will Ed or Allah please ban this person?

John the Libertarian on May 23, 2012 at 5:09 PM

You and I both know that ain’t enough anymore. It is parsed just so.

Bmore on May 23, 2012 at 5:15 PM

Here’s my question:

If Hustler had done the EXACT SAME THING with Michelle Obama in place of S.E. Cupp, what would the reaction have been from the MSM and the left-wing blogosphere?

Yeah, that’s what I thought.

clayj on May 23, 2012 at 5:15 PM

And Dr. Telsa

I thought the name joke was funny, simply because I thought the same thing.

I think all of you in outrage over that joke need to lighten up. Take the street you grew up on and your last name and VIOLA! you now have your own special adult name haha.

Politricks on May 23, 2012 at 5:14 PM

See, at least one person on the internet gets me and my little joke. Vindication.

Dr. Tesla on May 23, 2012 at 5:16 PM

Politricks on May 23, 2012 at 5:14 PM

be carefule man. if you arent prpperly offended:
1 – you hate women
2 – you are a liar (i dont know how that happened)
3 – your a hypocrite
4 – you need to find some picurters of your wife fast, cause theres one dude around here who gets REALLY weird about it
5 – if you DONT know how to post pictures on the internet, you will learn something today.

t8stlikchkn on May 23, 2012 at 5:17 PM

I think all of you in outrage over that joke need to lighten up. Take the street you grew up on and your last name and VIOLA! you now have your own special adult name haha.

Politricks on May 23, 2012 at 5:14 PM

grow a conscience.. then imagine somebody did this to your daughter……. haha..

If you really cannot understand why this was not funny and the act of a scumbag.. there isn’t much hope you’ll ever care much about another human being. That empathy thing seems beyond your ability to grasp.

mark81150 on May 23, 2012 at 5:20 PM

Show me where I have personally attacked S. E. Cupp. I have stated numerous times I know litle about her other than her name, which I find kind of unique for stated reason, and the fact a lot of conservatives think she’s a hottie. Since the name is supposed to be gender non-specific, I’m not sure you can say it’s sexist or whatever if I say the name sounds like a porn star name. I wasn’t bouncing off the Hustler thing, there hasn’t been a post about S.E.Cupp before that I saw so I never had a chance to say this before.

Dr. Tesla on May 23, 2012 at 5:20 PM

See, at least one person on the internet gets me and my little joke. Vindication.

Dr. Tesla on May 23, 2012 at 5:16 PM

Your “little joke”, although not funny to me, was not reprehensible or overly offensive in the way as is the photoshopped pic of Ms. Cupp.

It is your patently, purposefully offensive behavior afterward that offends most, unless I misunderstand the HA commentariat.

hillbillyjim on May 23, 2012 at 5:22 PM

Actually, NOW will probably reluctantly (and quietly) denounce this. How could they not.

blink on May 23, 2012 at 1:42 PM

Maybe in the same way they were unable to condemn Clinton? Remember, they admitted he was a dog, but he was their dog, so they gave him a break by remaining silent.

I do realize times are different now, and see that S.E. has already gotten some support on this from the Left – I mentioned what I did about Clinton because I can’t help that I enjoy reminding Leftists of their hypocrisy any time I see the opportunity! :)

Bizarro No. 1 on May 23, 2012 at 5:23 PM

I dont know, I feel kind of sad when I see conservatives and liberterians trying to control speech and bully people over harmless statements. I guess I’m more of a libertine.

Dr. Tesla on May 23, 2012 at 5:26 PM

I don’t think NOW or Fluke had any problem condemning the Hustler thing. It’s low hanging fruit that buys them a phony sort of credibliy on “women issues”. I think S. E. Cupp is kind of playing into their hands a bit by bringing up Rush and the Fluke stuff.

Dr. Tesla on May 23, 2012 at 5:27 PM

I’m not much outraged.. just depressed that someone could be so degraded in public like this.. and the really sad part.. is we have enough resident beavis and buttheads here to chuckle like morons about it.

har har..

I bet you people laugh like hyenas at a funeral too.

Nobody demands you be outraged.. but don’t smirk about it and expect a parade.

Put yourself in her fathers place and imagine how funny that it would be.

we don’t need to lighten up.. up need to grow some common decency.

mark81150 on May 23, 2012 at 5:28 PM

I can sincerely say that I didn’t think my joke about S.E Cupp’s name soundingn like a porn star name would get this much attention. What is the big deal?
———————————
imo, her name is not relevant to the ridicule Hustler chose to subject her and her family to.
S.E.Cupp has a mother that is no doubt horrified that her daughter’s name has allowed people, like you, to deem her worthy of ridicule, because YOU think that name sounds like a “porn star” … I wouldn’t know, as porn star names are not my expertise.

In real life, if your actual name was suggested as a “reason” for smearing/mocking/belittling, would your mother be amused?

OldChick on May 23, 2012 at 5:30 PM

S.E Cupp has basically said what Hustler did to her by putting her on the cover is the same thing as what Rush did with his Fluke commentary. I don’t see an equivalence there. I think she’s eager to play that card to show some kind of doulbe standard but I don’t think Rush was sexist in his comments. Chalk it up to bias I guess.

Dr. Tesla on May 23, 2012 at 5:30 PM

Moreover, nobody does a funnier or more dead on impersonation of Larry Flynt than El Rushbo.

Dr. Tesla on May 23, 2012 at 5:31 PM

Um…how do you shame anybody on the left?

I don’t think it’s possible.

kbTexan on May 23, 2012 at 1:44 PM

Oh, there is a way – some of them are shamed when called “Uncle Tom”, or “traitor” for doing something outrageous like defending Bain/capitalism from 0bamessiah’s attacks.

Bizarro No. 1 on May 23, 2012 at 5:32 PM

I wouldn’t call my joke about the name S. E. Cupp to be ridicule of S. E. Cupp. I think you want to see it that way regardless so what can I do.

Dr. Tesla on May 23, 2012 at 5:33 PM

Let me try it this way, if there was a conservative political pundit named Dirk Diggler, you wouldn’t make jokes about the name, even if you agreed with Dirk Diggler on politics? You probably would make jokes abou the jokes. I rest my case.

Dr. Tesla on May 23, 2012 at 5:34 PM

The conservatives commenting over on Mediaite love me. It’s weird how hated I am on this ostensibly conservative website as nobody is more conservative than me.

Dr. Tesla on May 23, 2012 at 5:36 PM

I can imagine what Dr Tesla would do with a woman who was named Bertha Butt

logicman_1998 on May 23, 2012 at 5:37 PM

Update: This is starting to get some movement on the left now, with Planned Parenthood and Sandra Fluke tweeting their condemnations of “Hustler.”

I wish I could believe they are genuine. Considering the demagoguery they both practice I don’t buy it for a second.

Yakko77 on May 23, 2012 at 5:38 PM

i dont see it as an attack on women.

t8stlikchkn on May 23, 2012 at 3:12 PM

Well, there you’re wrong. Leftist Beta Male Politics When Owned 101: Go straight to the sex fantasies done in the most demeaning ways. It’s what Hustler does. It’s what Maher does. It’s what zillions of detractors of Malkin does.

MNHawk on May 23, 2012 at 3:24 PM

I agree with t8stlikchkn on this – I see it more as an attack on Conservatives than women per se, using the tawdry sexuality you mentioned as the vehicle to deliver the message in this case.

Bizarro No. 1 on May 23, 2012 at 5:40 PM

Dr. Tesla on May 23, 2012 at 5:36 PM

Reduced to talking to yourself, huh?

cicerone on May 23, 2012 at 5:40 PM

Reduced to talking to yourself, huh?

cicerone on May 23, 2012 at 5:40 PM

Studies show that talking to oneself is a sign of genius. Google it.

We had a flash mob in here, they all seemed to leave at once. I guess it’s supper time so not a bad idea. You take care.

Dr. Tesla on May 23, 2012 at 5:43 PM

I can imagine what Dr Tesla would do with a woman who was named Bertha Butt

logicman_1998 on May 23, 2012 at 5:37 PM

Well Bertha Butt doesnt need anybody to do anything with it. My S.E. Cupp joke was kind of a Seinfield type of joke. Everybody liked Seinfield right.

Dr. Tesla on May 23, 2012 at 5:45 PM

and i’m suppose to believe that fluke and planned parenthood altruistically and genuinely care about women because they stoop once and awhile to defend those women whom they usually consider indefensible- conservative, religious and party line strays from the special interest wimmin’s plantation?

there’s nothing consistent about their stated positions nor about when they opt to yank their heads up from being plugged into each others butts- or up the backside of their left wing largely male masters. if they were truly committed to rights and freedoms for women they would respect women who choose options in life that differ from their own- but they don’t. when they defend a conservative woman they are always suspect.

in only one place could i find any mention of fluke’s despicable manipulation and use of women who have been raped-all for political reasons having not much to do with the crime of rape. the usual leftist spew- rule and gain obedience through fear mongering. while testifying before congress , fluke claimed that women had to pay for rape kits- an outright lie deployed for a selfish political purpose. no representative of any organization involved in rape crisis opted to correct her.

http://crimevictimsmediareport.com/?p=4854

they could care less about victims of rape or bulling (because this hustler filth is bullying at heart. i thought the left conceived of bullying as the most evil of acts in all of history?) particularly if the aggrieved have political opinions with which they differ. it’s all for political show. the left has no integrity whatsoever in these matters- and neither do those who opt to, for whatever reason, use this as an excuse to demean a woman for their own chuckles. it makes you sound like an ignorant buffoon not the hail-fellow-well-met you think you are.

mittens on May 23, 2012 at 5:46 PM

S.E Cupp has basically said what Hustler did to her by putting her on the cover is the same thing as what Rush did with his Fluke commentary….

Dr. Tesla on May 23, 2012 at 5:30 PM

In what universe?

This moral equivalence bullshit is just that — bullshit.

hillbillyjim on May 23, 2012 at 5:47 PM

I can imagine what Dr Tesla would do with a woman who was named Bertha Butt

logicman_1998 on May 23, 2012 at 5:37 PM
Well Bertha Butt doesnt need anybody to do anything with it. My S.E. Cupp joke was kind of a Seinfield type of joke. Everybody liked Seinfield right.

Dr. Tesla on May 23, 2012 at 5:45 PM

Actually I never saw Seinfield…I was attending college at night in those years and saw very little network television. Although I have heard a great deal about Seinfield…I perfer the comedy of the Marx Brothers

logicman_1998 on May 23, 2012 at 5:47 PM

Since Chelsea Clinton has become a member of the media, how would these folks like to see same picture done of her?

Cindy Munford on May 23, 2012 at 2:50 PM

Excellent, excellent point, one that even Leftists couldn’t deny. Not that it would cause them to be less hypocritical about it, though – that’s just how they roll! :)

Bizarro No. 1 on May 23, 2012 at 5:48 PM

Vindicated?

GOOD FR!@$%^&CKEN GRIEF.

YOU are vindicated?

I thought this story/thread was about a young woman named S.E. Cupp being smeared by Hustler …. not about you.

OldChick on May 23, 2012 at 5:49 PM

Let me try it this way, if there was a conservative political pundit named Dirk Diggler, you wouldn’t make jokes about the name, even if you agreed with Dirk Diggler on politics? You probably would make jokes abou the jokes. I rest my case.

Dr. Tesla on May 23, 2012 at 5:34 PM

The jury’s back in record time.

On the first count:

Guilty as charged of reckless stupid in the first degree.

On the second count:

Guilty as charged of trolling (badly) in the second degree.

hillbillyjim on May 23, 2012 at 5:52 PM

Dr. Tesla…

so the guys at mediate love you. Do you post inane post after inane post at the rate that you do here? I was going to copy and post the times of each of your posts on this thread but I have a life and I don’t have that hour to waste.

CW on May 23, 2012 at 5:52 PM

Studies show that talking to oneself is a sign of genius. Google it.

We had a flash mob in here, they all seemed to leave at once. I guess it’s supper time so not a bad idea. You take care.

Dr. Tesla on May 23, 2012 at 5:43 PM

Talking to yourself is okay…Having arguments with yourself is much worse…However….when you have arguments with yourself and lose…that is very bad.

logicman_1998 on May 23, 2012 at 5:53 PM

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