I would venture to say that the answer depends mightily on what one defines as “child”. I tend to have my cutoff at the heartbeat detection. Do you really see a one-week fetus as “child” because an old bearded man in the clouds said so?

Archivarix on May 23, 2012 at 1:33 PM

I heard my baby’s heartbeat at 33 days after conception.

However, I do see a one-week fetus as a child because of the separate DNA.

Not your fault ol boy !!

Libturd trolls like brainfree are like sharks sniffing for that drop of proverbial “off-topic” blood to consume and eventually take the whole thread down the toilet with their stupidity and grade school-like tantrums !

Doctors in Beed, India are reportedly feeding aborted girls to dogs to hide evidence they are doing sex-selection abortions.

Food for Thought: Would pro-abortion Obama eat dog raised on aborted Indian girls?

war on women

When the anti-abortion movement can back up their polls with some real change, or better yet a serious movement to repeal Roe, then I’ll get excited.

Millions of those mothers are speaking out and convincing other people that abortion is fatal to babies and often harmful (and sometimes fatal) to mothers.

The “rape and incest exception” is supported by some people who consider themselves pro-life. But isn’t the unborn child of a rapist or incestuous parent as innocent, and as deserving of care, as every other unborn child?

Ethel Waters was conceived when her mother was raped at knifepoint. Ethel had problems in her life, as do we all, but she was a fine singer and actress, and much loved by many people. We never know what the future holds for anyone, but every child deserves a chance.

Besides, a 2000 survey by Dr. David Reardon found that out of 192 women who had become pregnant through rape or incest, more than 90 percent of those who had aborted their babies said that they would discourage other mothers from doing so. Ninety-four percent (94%) of the rape victims and 100% of the incest victims told Reardon that abortion was NOT a good option for women in their situations.
Raping a woman is a terrible injustice, but so is sentencing her baby to death. Doing violence to the baby will not undo the violence done to mother.

The baby is not the mother’s attacker, but is, in fact, a second victim, who should not be executed for the father’s crime. Rapists are spared the death penalty, so why should their babies be executed?

What would your reaction be if your mother told you that you had been conceived through rape (or incest)? Would you say, “I should have been killed–my life isn’t worth living”?

Or would you say, “Thanks, Mom, for giving me a chance–thanks for letting me live”?

Hey.. who has seen the new “life” commercial put out by the Catholic Church! Freaking awesome!

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=D9vQt6IXXaM&hd

JellyToast on May 23, 2012 at 6:10 PM

Agree with you and wi farmgirl, that was awesome. Totally and obviously anti-Obama without even mentioning his name. Sweet! What has the pro-death-pro-Obama crowd got to match it?

I for one would like to see just one State do it anyway and let the momentum build from there.

AH_C on May 23, 2012 at 9:24 PM

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I’ll second that motion.

Unfortunately, in this case that doesn’t mean the motion is carried.
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Likewise, put abortion to a referendum and you’ll see how people will really feel about it. That hasn’t happened yet because people feel like it is a moot issue due to RvW etc, but if it were on the ballot, the pro-lifers would overwhelm the pro-abortionists. I for one would like to see just one State do it anyway and let the momentum build from there.

Hey.. who has seen the new “life” commercial put out by the Catholic Church! Freaking awesome!

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=D9vQt6IXXaM&hd

JellyToast on May 23, 2012 at 6:10 PM

That was awesome.

Good news. Pro-life educational efforts through the years are making a difference.

WannabeAnglican on May 23, 2012 at 11:37 AM

+ 100..Hear!..Hear!..:)

Some might consider this to be a public service and the best way to secure liberty to ourselves and to our posterity?

The first law of politics: When your opponent is self destructing, don’t interupt!

Naw, I love their kids more than they love their own kids.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1566501/

“For Greater Glory” opens in theaters on June 1. Save a spot for it on your calendar now!

Hey.. who has seen the new “life” commercial put out by the Catholic Church! Freaking awesome!

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=D9vQt6IXXaM&hd

JellyToast on May 23, 2012 at 6:10 PM

Awesome ad, Jelly Toast!

Combine it with the awesome movie, For Greater Glory, which I saw at an advance screening last night, and every Catholic voter in America will know why they need to fight hard during this election season.

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=D9vQt6IXXaM&hd

Abortion commercial scene from the movie “Swing Vote”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ_U0QJ3dx0

The visual impact of the disappearing children in the ad is not easily forgotten.

You may also want to watch the whole “Swing Vote” movie (which is very good!) with pro-choice friends/relatives as a less obvious way of exposing them to the abortion commercial scene.

So anybody who is age 39 or younger is fortunate to have been born.

And as these people learn about the abortion issue they will realize it is their generation that is missing so many aborted classmates, friends-who-might-have-been, brothers, sisters, cousins etc.

Anybody who was born in 1973 or later will find it much easier to relate to the unborn child’s perspective.

As each year goes by, more and more people will have a very personal reason to be pro-life.

I think Trayvon was probably a thug looking for no good

Logus on May 23, 2012 at 2:02 PM

Your basis for this is……

libfreeordie on May 23, 2012 at 2:04 PM

It could be that honky honky Hispanic that Saint Trayvon was trying to kill while on suspension out shopping for Skittles for Zim having dat mo-fo’ing Neighborhood Watch intrude on his turf. Just ask Saint Trayvon’s parent’s marketing agency and the Justice Brothers for details. I’m sure they can dream up something brain-free would swallow.