Romney campaign eyeing Wisconsin if recall flops

posted at 10:01 am on May 22, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

If Wisconsin turns into the Left’s Waterloo two weeks from today, Mitt Romney’s campaign may take a fresh look at making it Barack Obama’s as well.  The Wall Street Journal analyzes the impact that a defeat in the Badger State will have on Democrats and the unions, and the new talk of Wisconsin being the kind of swing state that could decide this election:

From the start, some in the Democratic Party worried that a Wisconsin recall could drain needed resources, fire up the conservative base and ultimately make it more difficult for Mr. Obama to win the state. Mr. Obama carried Wisconsin by 14 percentage points in 2008, and Wisconsin hasn’t gone Republican in a presidential election since 1984. But last week’s Marquette poll showed Messrs. Obama and Romney tied at 46%.

A senior official with the Romney campaign said that if Mr. Walker survives, the campaign would take a fresh look at the state. “If opportunity hits, we will capitalize,” the official said.

“People are suddenly starting to talk about Wisconsin as a potential swing state, which was not the case even two weeks ago,” said William Galston, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution and a former policy adviser to President Bill Clinton.

Even this far before the recall vote takes place, insiders are trying to distance themselves from failure:

Top Democrats now say that when labor groups first raised the specter of a recall, the party’s officials urged their allies in Wisconsin to reconsider. “We told them it was a bad, bad, bad idea,” one Democratic official said.

A union official said both the Democratic National Committee and the Obama campaign expressed reservations. “I don’t know that anyone was enthusiastic about it over there,” the union official said.

Wisconsin will be exactly the kind of state that Obama will have difficulty carrying in this election.  Despite its track record for consecutive Democratic victories in presidential elections, Wisconsin has frequently been a close-run state.  John Kerry barely won the state with an 11,000-vote margin, less than half a percentage point in the 2004 election.  Wisconsin consists mainly of the blue-collar white voters that have become so disaffected with Democrats since Obama’s election in 2008.  The state flipped to Republicans for the first time in decades in the 2010 midterms, and the recall elections has fired up the conservative base enough in the state to beat the unions in two special elections this year.

Politico reports that it looks like Republicans will win the hat trick, too:

What seemed a few months ago like an unstoppable crusade to oust Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker now has the look of a marathon runner pulling up limp in the last mile.

Two weeks from Election Day, Democrats face the real prospect of defeat: The last three public polls of the race show the first-term Republican up between 4 and 9 points. Local Democrats are seething that the national party has been MIA from their recall effort. The state’s largest newspaper argued over the weekend that whatever Walker’s sins, he doesn’t deserve to be booted from office.

And with fewer than 5 percent of voters undecided, the chance of a significant shift in sentiment in the closing days appears slight, even as the campaigns prepare to launch their final advertising spree.

It’s gotten so bad that Democrats have all but stopped talking about the PEU reforms, as the latest budget numbers show Walker was right in pushing for them.  They’ve had to fall back on the usual griping about budget cuts, which as Reason TV points out, are fantasy:

Are public-sector workers overcompensated relative to their private-sector analogues? All signs point to yes. Are states and localities massively overextended due to salaries and benefits accorded public-sector workers? Again, all signs point to yes. Does that mean that states will start reeling in the amount of money they’re paying out now, not to mention the future? Not so much. Consider even Wisconsin, where’s Scott Walker’s two-year budget increases total spending by 3 percent.

A win here for Walker will further damage the credibility of Big Labor, and they have already spent their money on this rather than the general election in November.  Wisconsin would be ripe for a Republican win in the state that defined prairie populism for decades.


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Wouldn’t a recall win vault Walker to the top of the shortlist?

Jorge Bonilla on May 22, 2012 at 10:03 AM

money quote from team romney – “If opportunity hits, we will capitalize”

indeed.. and romney has a record to back up that axiom

gatorboy on May 22, 2012 at 10:04 AM

Badgers! We don’ need no steeking badgers!

SOMEBODY had to say it

NoFanofLibs on May 22, 2012 at 10:05 AM

Ed, please pardon the OT.. I won’t keep posting it, but we are missing a local girl, the sister of one of my acquaintances.. I know how the search for Michelle’s niece has been so wrenching.

Here is the video put together by the volunteers coordinating the search for 22-y.o. Mickey Shunick, a college student here in Lafayette, La. It’s a testament to the power of social media.

Please take a moment to watch. Mickey could be anywhere. Even someone at Hot Air could even see her if she’s being taken across state lines.

Thanks,

cane_loader

cane_loader on May 22, 2012 at 10:05 AM

They should be eyeing Wisconsin regardless. It is one of the states that could flip, and Obama ain’t flipping any states into his column.

NotCoach on May 22, 2012 at 10:05 AM

Not just badgers.

swinia sutki on May 22, 2012 at 10:05 AM

Why wait? Road trip now

cmsinaz on May 22, 2012 at 10:06 AM

…the Romney campaign people are not John McCant’s!

KOOLAID2 on May 22, 2012 at 10:07 AM

Grab his throat and keep squeezing.

Zaggs on May 22, 2012 at 10:08 AM

…the Romney campaign people are not John McCant’s!

KOOLAID2 on May 22, 2012 at 10:07 AM

Then why the if?

idesign on May 22, 2012 at 10:09 AM

Wiscy’s already polling into the dead heat range.

If Walker wins in a walk, then this is not only a state which should be very winnable for Romney but also gives him the union issue to beat Obama over the head.

Considering how the White House was part of the initial organizing against Walker, when the Fleebaggers left for Illinois, this will NOT bode well for Obama’s chances in November.

teke184 on May 22, 2012 at 10:09 AM

yes, duh. wisconsin goes red. and so does PA. and election night is over by 10pm. we already know all this.

t8stlikchkn on May 22, 2012 at 10:10 AM

A senior official with the Romney campaign said that if Mr. Walker survives, the campaign would take a fresh look at the state.

Here’s a thought…instead of sitting on the sidelines and waiting to “take a fresh look”, how about helping the guy out.

dirtseller on May 22, 2012 at 10:11 AM

cane_loader on May 22, 2012 at 10:05 AM

…prayers for the family, and to find her.
…It’s not right that this keeps happening in todays…day and age!

KOOLAID2 on May 22, 2012 at 10:11 AM

When the recall fails, Big Labor will manage to point the finger at everyone but themselves.

Red Cloud on May 22, 2012 at 10:12 AM

Make no mistake; the blue wall has been cracked and I think Wisconsin could very well turn into a battle ground state. Considering the state is the fatherland (ahem) of progressivism in America, that would be ironic indeed.

Rixon on May 22, 2012 at 10:12 AM

I hope the folks in Wisconsin don’t become complacent. They need to get out and vote for Walker and send the dems home crying.

dogsoldier on May 22, 2012 at 10:12 AM

Here’s a thought…instead of sitting on the sidelines and waiting to “take a fresh look”, how about helping the guy out.

dirtseller on May 22, 2012 at 10:11 AM

No kidding…

Sounds just like McCain.

idesign on May 22, 2012 at 10:12 AM

Badgers! We don’ need no steeking badgers!

SOMEBODY had to say it

NoFanofLibs on May 22, 2012 at 10:05 AM

Oh ya!

tim c on May 22, 2012 at 10:13 AM

I hope the folks in Wisconsin don’t become complacent. They need to get out and vote for Walker and send the dems home crying.

dogsoldier on May 22, 2012 at 10:12 AM

I don’t think they will be complacent.

From everything I’m hearing, the “silent majority” is up in arms over the unions and Dems trying to subvert the results of the 2010 elections and will show up in huge numbers to tell them where to stick it.

teke184 on May 22, 2012 at 10:14 AM

Top Democrats now say that when labor groups first raised the specter of a recall, the party’s officials urged their allies in Wisconsin to reconsider. “We told them it was a bad, bad, bad idea,” one Democratic official said.

Funny that’s not the response I remember as Dems were cheering the bussed in mobs that trashed the statehouse.

Happy Nomad on May 22, 2012 at 10:15 AM

From everything I’m hearing, the “silent majority” is up in arms over the unions and Dems trying to subvert the results of the 2010 elections and will show up in huge numbers to tell them where to stick it.

teke184 on May 22, 2012 at 10:14 AM

I think that one reason Walker will prevail is that there is something fundamentally unfair and undemocratic about this recall. There isn’t really a reason for the recall other than Dems lost in 2010. It is not like the Gray Davis recall in California at all.

Happy Nomad on May 22, 2012 at 10:18 AM

Mittens may want to consider Michigan as well, and stay and fight there unlike McCain’s campaign did. RealClearPolitics has just moved Michigan to “Toss Up” from Bacracka’s column.

SouthernGent on May 22, 2012 at 10:18 AM

“We told them it was a bad, bad, bad idea,” one Democratic official said.

Weird. I didn’t hear that when the Dems ran away to avoid voting.

Own this, lefties. Own it.

Now excuse me, I have to go buy some pudding.

Washington Nearsider on May 22, 2012 at 10:19 AM

Wisconsin will be a landmark election…it will help foretell what is in the future.
Along with that is Arkansas primary today, if Wolfe is within single digits of Obama it will be a disaster for Obama. In fact anything under 20 points will be a signal of the coming election disaster for Obama.

right2bright on May 22, 2012 at 10:19 AM

Ed….oh…Ed….how could you write so many words about Wisconsin, defeat, Democrats and Scott Walker without using the word “Fleebagger”???

put that one in the mix for the next time, mmkay?///

ted c on May 22, 2012 at 10:19 AM

“People are suddenly starting to talk about Wisconsin as a potential swing state, which was not the case even two weeks ago,” said William Galston, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution and a former policy adviser to President Bill Clinton.

Not true, several commenters here (myself included) have been arguing for awhile now that if Walker won big, Romney was likely to flip Wisconsin (which means he wins the election).

yes, duh. wisconsin goes red. and so does PA. and election night is over by 10pm. we already know all this.

t8stlikchkn on May 22, 2012 at 10:10 AM

I am still skeptical about the GOP’s chances in PA.

Doomberg on May 22, 2012 at 10:19 AM

Two weeks still – ack!

Come on Walker

gophergirl on May 22, 2012 at 10:21 AM

cane_loader on May 22, 2012 at 10:05 AM

…prayers for the family, and to find her.
…It’s not right that this keeps happening in todays…day and age!

KOOLAID2 on May 22, 2012 at 10:11 AM

What makes it tough is that a traveling carnival is in town, and her route took her right by the trailers.

I’m getting ready for a long hot day in the boat, to search the Vermilion River.

cane_loader on May 22, 2012 at 10:22 AM

I am still skeptical about the GOP’s chances in PA.

Doomberg on May 22, 2012 at 10:19 AM

If it’s even close, then the Dems will have to put a LOT of money and effort into the Philly turnout.

If Obama loses Pennsylvania, there’s absolutely no way he wins.

teke184 on May 22, 2012 at 10:23 AM

By the way, the story is in the Daily Mail now. I’m sure we’ll all be hearing more about the case… especially if she doesn’t turn up soon. We have a serial killer loose down here who hasn’t been caught. Has killed 8 so far in the last few years :(

Or a drunk could have hit her and taken her and the bike away, out of fear.

cane_loader on May 22, 2012 at 10:23 AM

I am still skeptical about the GOP’s chances in PA.

Doomberg on May 22, 2012 at 10:19 AM

Skeptical, yes.

But when was the last time you really thought we could win at all? Reagan?

Washington Nearsider on May 22, 2012 at 10:24 AM

Funny that’s not the response I remember as Dems were cheering the bussed in mobs that trashed the statehouse.

Happy Nomad on May 22, 2012 at 10:15 AM

Will the mobs from Chi-town be bussed over the border to stuff ballot boxes on June 5?

Steve Z on May 22, 2012 at 10:24 AM

Mittens may want to consider Michigan as well, and stay and fight there unlike McCain’s campaign did. RealClearPolitics has just moved Michigan to “Toss Up” from Bacracka’s column.

SouthernGent on May 22, 2012 at 10:18 AM

I lived in Michigan for a while. I don’t buy it is a toss-up. Too many loyal union folk who leave their brain at home and vote a straight Dem ticket. I hope I’m wrong because if MI is really a toss-up this portends to be more of a landslide than a squeaker.

Happy Nomad on May 22, 2012 at 10:26 AM

See y’all later.

cane_loader on May 22, 2012 at 10:27 AM

If Obama loses Pennsylvania, there’s absolutely no way he wins.

teke184 on May 22, 2012 at 10:23 AM

Holder is already on the phone to Malik Shabazz so have no fear. /s

Rixon on May 22, 2012 at 10:27 AM

Governor Walker has a better chance to defeat the recall than Romney does in beating Obama. Romney should be in Wisconsin making sure the recall is defeated so he looks like the leader he is trying to project.

volsense on May 22, 2012 at 10:27 AM

Switching cause and effect here, I think. Walker’s re-election doesn’t make Wisconsin a swing-state and worthy of attention. Rather the fact that Wisconsin is a swing-state is why Walker will win the recall, and Romney should have been targeting there regardless.

Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania are all in play. Predetermining their status based on past elections is like assuming a coin will come up tails just because it did so the last five times. I could understand wanting proof before throwing money into Oregon or even New Jersey (though with a bit more of a shift, they’ll come into play as well) but there is no reason to yield tossup states just because GWB fell a couple thousand votes short here and there. This whole election is being fought on Obama’s once-held turf. Keep pressing forward.

Gingotts on May 22, 2012 at 10:28 AM

Skeptical, yes.

But when was the last time you really thought we could win at all? Reagan?

Washington Nearsider on May 22, 2012 at 10:24 AM

No, I’ve never thought the GOP could win it all. But I’m especially skeptical about PA as this is the state that sent Murtha back to Congress after he went out of his way to insult his constituents.

Doomberg on May 22, 2012 at 10:28 AM

Will the mobs from Chi-town be bussed over the border to stuff ballot boxes on June 5?

Steve Z on May 22, 2012 at 10:24 AM

When it comes to underhanded tactics, nothing is beneath the Dems.

Happy Nomad on May 22, 2012 at 10:28 AM

They weren’t looking at it before? That is stupid. How do you think Walker got elected in the first place? Why can’t the Republicans take a page from the Tea Party? Makes no sense. This year, even Maryland could be swung. Our brilliant overseerer has increased taxes to the point where the average citizen can no longer make it. Millionaires have fled, revenues cut drastically. Businesses are fleeing in droves. Illegal aliens have taken over entire neighborhoods. Montgomery County can’t even fill its pot holes, pay its school bills (@ $11,000 a head, the illegals they invited in are literally breaking them) or answer 911 calls.

Portia46 on May 22, 2012 at 10:30 AM

But I’m especially skeptical about PA as this is the state that sent Murtha back to Congress after he went out of his way to insult his constituents.

Doomberg on May 22, 2012 at 10:28 AM

I forgot about that. You’re right. There’s just no reaching some people.

Washington Nearsider on May 22, 2012 at 10:30 AM

Wisconsin should have its voter ID law in place by the fall. (After the futile court challenge is dismissed).

PA will also have a voter ID law in the fall, as well.

Wethal on May 22, 2012 at 10:30 AM

Preach it, Brother!

nukemhill on May 22, 2012 at 10:30 AM

But I’m especially skeptical about PA as this is the state that sent Murtha back to Congress after he went out of his way to insult his constituents.

Doomberg on May 22, 2012 at 10:28 AM

Incumbency is usually a powerful position (which is why Obama’s vulnerability has the Dems in panic mode). The Presidential election is a statewide referendum, not just a bunch of dolts in Johnstown who were happy with the amount of earmarks made its way to Murtha’s brother’s company.

Happy Nomad on May 22, 2012 at 10:32 AM

A win here for Walker will further damage the credibility of Big Labor, and they have already spent their money on this rather than the general election in November.

Romney would be wise to capitalize on a Walker win by dancing on the grave of the fleebaggers and PEUs on the grounds of the WI State Capitol bldg.

Schadenfreudalicious.

ted c on May 22, 2012 at 10:32 AM

But I’m especially skeptical about PA as this is the state that sent Murtha back to Congress after he went out of his way to insult his constituents.

Doomberg on May 22, 2012 at 10:28 AM
I forgot about that. You’re right. There’s just no reaching some people.

Washington Nearsider on May 22, 2012 at 10:30 AM

Ok, here we go again.

PA DID NOT SEND MURTHA TO CONGRESS. ONLY THE 13TH DISTRICT DID.

And that was because he poured so much pork into the depressed Johnstown area that the economy was dependent on his presence in Congress to keep the money coming.

(His district was merged with another one, because PA lost a seat in the 2010 census, by the way.)

Wethal on May 22, 2012 at 10:34 AM

c u cane

cmsinaz on May 22, 2012 at 10:34 AM

No, I’ve never thought the GOP could win it all. But I’m especially skeptical about PA as this is the state that sent Murtha back to Congress after he went out of his way to insult his constituents.

Doomberg on May 22, 2012 at 10:28 AM

The ares that made up the old 12th district will vote for Romney. The problem PA has in presidential elections is the heavily populated suburbs of Philly that used to be conservative are now voting Democrat.

forest on May 22, 2012 at 10:35 AM

Wethal on May 22, 2012 at 10:34 AM

You’re right, of course. I read Nomad’s post right after mine was written and remembered Murtha was a Rep.

Brain’s not operating at full capacity this morning.

Washington Nearsider on May 22, 2012 at 10:35 AM

Dems have been turning out in huge numbers in early voting, which started yesterday. They’re focusing on turnout rather than TV ads, and it looks to be working. WI GOP’ers must not be complacent. Walker is as capable of renting vans and getting people to the polls as the Barret people are, and why he’s not doing it is a mystery to me.

gumbyandpokey on May 22, 2012 at 10:35 AM

No, I’ve never thought the GOP could win it all. But I’m especially skeptical about PA as this is the state that sent Murtha back to Congress after he went out of his way to insult his constituents.

Doomberg on May 22, 2012 at 10:28 AM

Meanwhile all of PA told Snarlin’ Arlen to shove off and sent Pat Toomey to the Senate in his place.

Gingotts on May 22, 2012 at 10:36 AM

Romney campaign eyeing Wisconsin if recall flops

Well, well, well….welcome to the party pal….it’s about time Mitt and gope show up.
Typical Mitt….wait till everything’s all said and done and then show up for the celebration.
Daaaang….I loathe Mitt and the gope.

tencole on May 22, 2012 at 10:37 AM

Here’s how Wisconsin has voted in all U.S. House races over the past decade for some perspective:

1998: +7.1% Republican
2000: +4.9% Republican, Bush loses by 0.2%

2002: +13.0% Republican
2004: +0.4% Republican, Bush loses by 11.2%

2006: +1.8% Republican
2008: +3.9% Democrat, McCain loses by 13.9%

2010: +10.6% Republican
2012: ????

steebo77 on May 22, 2012 at 10:38 AM

Here’s a thought…instead of sitting on the sidelines and waiting to “take a fresh look”, how about helping the guy out.

dirtseller on May 22, 2012 at 10:11 AM

Romney cannot go if Walker does NOT want him. Politics are a little more complicated than they seem from the sidelines.

Elizabetty on May 22, 2012 at 10:40 AM

Dems have been turning out in huge numbers in early voting, which started yesterday. They’re focusing on turnout rather than TV ads, and it looks to be working.

Umm, *what* early voting? You mean by absentee? Because that’s the only “early” voting that’s allowed in WI and it started yesterday.

Vancomycin on May 22, 2012 at 10:44 AM

Top Democrats now say that when labor groups first raised the specter of a recall, the party’s officials urged their allies in Wisconsin to reconsider. “We told them it was a bad, bad, bad idea,” one Democratic official said.

A union official said both the Democratic National Committee and the Obama campaign expressed reservations. “I don’t know that anyone was enthusiastic about it over there,” the union official said.

Yeeeah, riiiight.

For months, I’ve been getting emails from Democrat organizations salivating over a Walker recall. Maybe some Democrats questioned this strategy. But a lot of them have simply loved it . . . until now apparently.

WannabeAnglican on May 22, 2012 at 10:46 AM

Top Democrats now say that when labor groups first raised the sphincter of a recall

FTFY

TallDave on May 22, 2012 at 10:48 AM

Can’t wait for election night coverage.

Walker is IN?

Walker is IN?!?!

Lily on May 22, 2012 at 10:51 AM

Does anyone (outside of the NYC/DC Corridor) think that a state who elected both a Republican Governor and Senator in 2010 will go for Obama in 2012???

The denial is strong inside the Beltway…

phreshone on May 22, 2012 at 10:52 AM

Shaping up quite nicely for NO-vember… it has all the rumblings of an avalanche…

Khun Joe on May 22, 2012 at 10:58 AM

…and they have already spent their money on this rather than the general election in November.

An important feature of the Wisconsin battle. The proggies are burning through money in the fight against Walker, money that would otherwise go to little Bammie. Probably 40% or so of those union members do not support democratics, and as they burn through that money and demand more of their members, that number will climb.

slickwillie2001 on May 22, 2012 at 10:59 AM

If it’s even close, then the Dems will have to put a LOT of money and effort into the Philly turnout

Correct. And Romney is exactly the right GOP candidate who will appeal to married women in the Philly suburbs… non-threatening, reassuring, focused on economic issues.

matthew8787 on May 22, 2012 at 11:02 AM

But I’m especially skeptical about PA as this is the state that sent Murtha back to Congress after he went out of his way to insult his constituents.

Doomberg on May 22, 2012 at 10:28 AM

Take a look at a map of Murtha’s district. It’s one of the most gerrymandered districts in the nation. It was created that way precisely so he wouldn’t have to face a competitive election. It’s why his District Director held the seat in the special after Murtha died and again in the 2010 general election.

dczombie on May 22, 2012 at 11:09 AM

Funny that’s not the response I remember as Dems were cheering the bussed in mobs that trashed the statehouse.

Happy Nomad on May 22, 2012 at 10:15 AM

Your memory is just fine Happy. And that is what I want to see in ads-this is the REAL example of yes we can! The story here is that even with all the $$$ and effort, with all stops removed, the people have spoken loud and clear. This will be a very sweet victory indeed.

JusDreamin on May 22, 2012 at 11:10 AM

If it’s even close, then the Dems will have to put a LOT of money and effort into the Philly turnout

What do you need money and effort for when you have club-wielding Black Panthers?

CurtZHP on May 22, 2012 at 11:11 AM

(His district was merged with another one, because PA lost a seat in the 2010 census, by the way.)

Wethal on May 22, 2012 at 10:34 AM

No offense Wethal but it was not Murtha’s district, it was the district that Murtha represented in the US Congress. I know I’m nit picking but, for some reason, it has become a peeve of mine when things are represented as if political positions are some sort of fiefdom that is the personal property of the incumbent. It totally changes the supposed relationship between the politician and the constituency when the starting premise is that it is the politician’s seat/district/whatever. I want politicians that understand just exactly who they work for. Not that Murtha cared much in 2010.

I’m just angry that this corrupt Marine-trashing Abscam-unindicted co-conspirator is going to have a ship named after him. We’ve plenty of American heroes to choose from without having to honor such a vile individual.

Happy Nomad on May 22, 2012 at 11:17 AM

Romney cannot go if Walker does NOT want him. Politics are a little more complicated than they seem from the sidelines.

Elizabetty on May 22, 2012 at 10:40 AM

And where have we heard that Walker doesn’t want him to come?

dirtseller on May 22, 2012 at 11:21 AM

The story here is that even with all the $$$ and effort, with all stops removed, the people have spoken loud and clear. This will be a very sweet victory indeed.

JusDreamin on May 22, 2012 at 11:10 AM

The part of the story that is most awesome to me is that Dems and the unions that support them have poured so much money into this project with so little ROI. Here’s hoping that things turn out the way it is trending (that Dems are skulking away is a good sign!)

Maybe Walker should hand out brightly colored tees to all his supporters and hold a victory rally in the Statehouse!

Happy Nomad on May 22, 2012 at 11:23 AM

don’t put walker in the “win” column yet…the left is “up to something”…a bright blue public employee neighbor let it slip at a party on Saturday in the context of the primary election and she said something about not voting for “strategic reasons”…then shut-up when pressed.

teejk on May 22, 2012 at 11:33 AM

don’t put walker in the “win” column yet…the left is “up to something”…a bright blue public employee neighbor let it slip at a party on Saturday in the context of the primary election and she said something about not voting for “strategic reasons”…then shut-up when pressed.

teejk on May 22, 2012 at 11:33 AM

Republicans need to have one person at every single polling place in the state with one of those counters amusement parks use to keep track of the number of people entering a ride. Republicans need a person following ballots from place of entry to place of counting. No lost cars with a trunk full of ballots. Republicans need to remember that Al Franken is a US Senator and how he got to be one. Strategic reasons only work if Republicans think the poll doesn’t need them out to vote. Actual stealing and cheating are what Wisconsin Dems are really really good at.

Portia46 on May 22, 2012 at 11:39 AM

Obligatory:

“..Badgers? We ain’t got no badgers; we don’t need no badgers; I don’t have to show you no steenking badgers!”

(With apologies to Weird Al.)

The War Planner on May 22, 2012 at 11:49 AM

WI is just another one of the “Lean Obama” states where his polling is below 50%. Remember, if he is below 50% he is losing: the undecides may not be sure of Romney, but they are sure they don’t want Obama.

Tater Salad on May 22, 2012 at 11:55 AM

Note to self:

If the use of foulmouthed hobos singing asinine folk songs is part of the identity and motivational effort of a political “side”.

That is NOT the side to be on.

heldmyw on May 22, 2012 at 12:35 PM

The more money spent by unions in WI, is one less dollar they have in the fall nationally.

It also acts as non -governmental stimulus dollars in the local economy. So the Union spending is making Gov Walker look even better.

Thank you Union leadership.

barnone on May 22, 2012 at 12:50 PM

Considering how the White House was part of the initial organizing against Walker, when the Fleebaggers left for Illinois, this will NOT bode well for Obama’s chances in November.

teke184 on May 22, 2012 at 10:09 AM

Exactly. I think many realize Obama’s financial and union aid was unappreciated by Wisconsin taxpayers. But yes I do think it will be a dead heat. Please everyone get out the vote.

wi farmgirl on May 22, 2012 at 12:51 PM

Here’s a thought…instead of sitting on the sidelines and waiting to “take a fresh look”, how about helping the guy out.

dirtseller on May 22, 2012 at 10:11 AM

That could backfire before the recall election. Let us take care of that, then step in and hit the ground running for Mitt. The recall is state business.

wi farmgirl on May 22, 2012 at 12:54 PM

Dems have been turning out in huge numbers in early voting, which started yesterday. They’re focusing on turnout rather than TV ads, and it looks to be working. WI GOP’ers must not be complacent. Walker is as capable of renting vans and getting people to the polls as the Barret people are, and why he’s not doing it is a mystery to me.

gumbyandpokey on May 22, 2012 at 10:35 AM

Why haven’t the GOP focused on this alone is a big mistake. They have the money, use it!

wi farmgirl on May 22, 2012 at 1:04 PM

don’t put walker in the “win” column yet…the left is “up to something”…a bright blue public employee neighbor let it slip at a party on Saturday in the context of the primary election and she said something about not voting for “strategic reasons”…then shut-up when pressed.

teejk on May 22, 2012 at 11:33 AM

As in what? ballots in a trunk? Not sure what this means.

wi farmgirl on May 22, 2012 at 1:11 PM

Considering the state is the fatherland (ahem) of progressivism in America, that would be ironic indeed.

Rixon on May 22, 2012 at 10:12 AM

Hopefully progessivism will die in the place of its birth and we will have a chance to save the 21st century.

Odysseus on May 22, 2012 at 1:15 PM

Umm, *what* early voting? You mean by absentee? Because that’s the only “early” voting that’s allowed in WI and it started yesterday.

Vancomycin on May 22, 2012 at 10:44 AM

Eyore is a paid Dem operative. I really don’t “get” how we can lose PA what with Obama’s attack on the coal industry. The wonder is how he won it in the first place. We just came back from a weekend in Southern PA—those people have lot in common with the folks in Western MD and they do NOT like Obama.

Portia46 on May 22, 2012 at 1:31 PM

As in what? ballots in a trunk? Not sure what this means.

wi farmgirl on May 22, 2012 at 1:11 PM

Maybe suggesting that public employees stayed home purposefully for the primary so that it looked like they were disinterested.

Remember the hoopla over how many more Republicans than Democrats showed up to vote in the Wisc primary for this recall?

What I am getting from the comment is that there are plenty of fired up union members who didn’t vote in the primary in order to lay an “over-confidence” trap for the Republicans, thus making many Rep voters think they could stay home because Walker has it in the bag.

Greyledge Gal on May 22, 2012 at 1:41 PM

Had the recently-passed voter ID law been in place, I can almost guarantee you Bush would have won the state both times.

There’s a lot of “soft fraud” from all the college kids that aren’t really residents of the state.

BradTank on May 22, 2012 at 1:44 PM

Scott Walker.
Paul Ryan.
Ron Johnson.
Reince Priebus.
Paul Clement.

Wisconsin has produced tons of awesome GOP’ers in the last few years, I think their GOP-Star-per-capita is higher than any other state. Florida might come close though, with Allen West, Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush, etc.

vegconservative on May 22, 2012 at 1:54 PM

Greyledge Gal on May 22, 2012 at 1:41 PM

That’s the only thing I could think of also…lay in the weeds.

There must have been some official notice from the “mother ship” and I hope there are a few moles that have relayed the message.

But it is more reason than ever that ALL Walker supporters vote. If the “black helicopters” prove to not exist, then it will only increase the margin of victory.

teejk on May 22, 2012 at 2:04 PM

BradTank on May 22, 2012 at 1:44 PM

Who knows whether voter fraud exists or not?

In the recent primary, I did notice that since I had voted in the supreme court election last spring, my name was on the voter roles. This time the woman asked for my ID and I informed her that I didn’t have to give her one (then laughed and gave it to her anyway but I think I passed a “message”). The point is that anybody could have voted for me and nobody would know unless I showed up later.

That appears to be trick #1 one in Milwaukee/Madison…initial registration gets you on “the list” and there is no proven mechanism to get you off the list that I know of…no cross-checking against tax return filing status, obituaries, etc. It wouldn’t matter here because we have about 75 people voting in any given election and everybody knows too much about their neighbors but larger cities with multiple wards seem ripe for fraud.

Voter ID won’t solve everything (I can already see some flaws and I’m only average IQ). But it would help.

teejk on May 22, 2012 at 2:27 PM

What I am getting from the comment is that there are plenty of fired up union members who didn’t vote in the primary in order to lay an “over-confidence” trap for the Republicans, thus making many Rep voters think they could stay home because Walker has it in the bag.

Greyledge Gal on May 22, 2012 at 1:41 PM

Well then they will be surprised how many repubs voted for a dem in the primary too. Everyone I heard talking about it were Dems, and they all voted. So I guess we will see the truth in 2 weeks. I have noticed many more Barrett signs in town this past week. They are getting fired up here.

wi farmgirl on May 22, 2012 at 2:42 PM

Wisconsin has produced tons of awesome GOP’ers in the last few years, I think their GOP-Star-per-capita is higher than any other state. Florida might come close though, with Allen West, Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush, etc.

vegconservative on May 22, 2012 at 1:54 PM

Out of pure frustration prolly. It is frustrating being a conservative in a progressively blue state.

wi farmgirl on May 22, 2012 at 2:45 PM

Wouldn’t a recall win vault Walker to the top of the shortlist?

Jorge Bonilla on May 22, 2012 at 10:03 AM

I’m sorry… that honor has been reserved for Gov John Kasich, R-OH.

But perhaps I’ve said too much…

JohnGalt23 on May 22, 2012 at 3:03 PM

wi farmgirl on May 22, 2012 at 2:42 PM

That open primary thing we have here does make it hard to measure true support although I doubt many Walker supporters voted on the Dem side so as to influence that side…that outcome was pretty much known before the election (DCD (Dane County Disease) seems to be like CWD in deer…nobody wants it in their area).

So I wouldn’t count on a huge number of Dem votes switching to Walker…rather, drive every Walker supporter you know to the polls.

The people you are not sure of or know will vote Barrett, assure them you’ll give them a ride on June 6 and hope they don’t notice.

teejk on May 22, 2012 at 3:05 PM

I’m very curious how this goes…seems Wisc voters have agreed that local Republicans have the right mindset to better their state. Question is, do they believe Romney possesses that same mindset or do they think he’s closer to Bush who lost it both times. If Walker wins in a landslide I think Romney can take Wisc if he focuses on the same things Walker did (reduce deficit, create jobs).

But you know Dems are scared, it’s why they’ve been pushing stories about how they might flip some states, like my state of Arizona. Maybe they’re hoping to get the Rep party to spend more money in a state they don’t want to.

nextgen_repub on May 22, 2012 at 3:14 PM

And for those of you who are into electoral maps – check the one at RealClearPolitics. They have WI(10) in the Toss Up category and guess who just joined them? MI (16).

Psych!

sdbatboy on May 22, 2012 at 4:08 PM

Michigan has 15 electoral votes, we lost a seat in the 2010 census.

Mittens may want to consider Michigan as well, and stay and fight there unlike McCain’s campaign did. RealClearPolitics has just moved Michigan to “Toss Up” from Bacracka’s column.

SouthernGent on May 22, 2012 at 10:18 AM

I lived in Michigan for a while. I don’t buy it is a toss-up. Too many loyal union folk who leave their brain at home and vote a straight Dem ticket. I hope I’m wrong because if MI is really a toss-up this portends to be more of a landslide than a squeaker.

Happy Nomad on May 22, 2012 at 10:26 AM

Michigan went very red in 2010 at the state level. We have 68% of the legislative Senate, and just about 55% of the House. With redistricting, I expect the House to go more Red at the State and Federal level from here. The Dems lost the seat the state lost in redistricting. And they are pitting to lousy libs together in the primary. It will be a good thing when one of the 2 will be defeated in August. The libs are mostly the east side of the state now. And the population demographics have shifted enough where they don’t dominate the state anymore.

Romney could win here. Let’s see if he knows how to run an effective campaign against Obama compared to how he did the scorched earth against conservative in the primary.

karenhasfreedom on May 22, 2012 at 8:26 PM