Open thread: The Arkansas Democratic primary

posted at 7:56 pm on May 22, 2012 by Allahpundit

Tonight’s the big night. If you read this post last week, you already know why. The odds of O actually losing this race are somewhere south of one percent, I’d guess, but they’re not absolute zero. Remember, a poll taken in Arkansas’s Fourth Congressional District roughly 10 days ago had The One leading attorney John Wolfe by seven thin points with 17 percent still undecided. Greatest upset evah?

“I’ve raised less than $2000,” says Wolfe. “My biggest contribution was $50; my smallest was $0.44.” The money helped him drive his Ford Edge from his Nashville home over to Arkansas, and to pay for some penny apiece robo-calls. These supplemented the 3000 calls that Wolfe has made personally, “just talking to voters.”…

Two weeks ago, a convincted felon and frequent candidate named Keith Judd won 41 percent of the Democratic primary vote in West Virginia. He took seven counties away from the president. Reporters, conducting interviews at the polls, learned that voters were willing to support anyone who wasn’t Obama, no matter what he did. Vice President Biden even absolved these people.

The Judd comparison is extremely unflattering to Wolfe. He’s an upstanding citizen, and reasonable, with an “economic populist” policy agenda that could fit snugly on Dylan Ratigan’s MSNBC show. When I call Wolfe, he’s ready with a 10-minute monologue about the need to restore Glass Steagall, the unfairness of the bailouts, and the good that a transaction tax could do.

As usual, Jay Cost is thinking big picture:

The real reason [southerners] have bolted their ancestral political home has to do with the evolving shape of the Democratic party. Historically, it was a working class coalition of urban workers and rural farmers. That identity anchored the party really up through the 1960s. But then it began to develop a decidedly “New Left” ethos – turning decidedly leftward not only from cultural conservatism but also on middle class, quality of life issues (feminism, environmentalism, consumer rights, etc) that are of much more concern to “enlightened” liberals in the big cities than rural voters in Arkansas.

Think of it this way: Your average Obama voter on the Upper West Side might think the “SmartCar” is great, but a plumber working in Hot Springs would just laugh his you-know-what off if he saw a coworker drive up in one of those absurd vehicles. That’s a cultural/social/economic divide that our political parties mimic.

And so Southern whites in the Border South have found a home in the GOP. Again, not because of race but because there is a cultural and regional affinity to be found for these people in the Republican party. The GOP has long been home to rural people in places like Pennsylvania, Michigan, Nebraska – so is not a huge surprise that, when the center of gravity in the Democratic party moved into San Francisco and Hollywood, these voters would join an alliance with people in Altoona, Pennsylvania and Aberdeen, South Dakota.

Do note, this is an open primary so some untold number of Republicans may have showed up today and requested a Democratic ballot just to mess with Obama. I’m a little surprised, in fact, that there’s been no concerted effort a la “Operation Chaos” to make that happen, but maybe it’s for the best. If there had, Wolfe’s showing would be blamed on GOP mischief. As it is, that spin will be a bit harder.

The polls close at 8:30 ET. I’m expecting Obama to win by 15-20 points; if he underperforms and his margin ends up being in single digits, conservative media will enjoy a Muntz-ian “HA-ha” tomorrow the likes of which we’ve scarcely seen. Here’s the Secretary of State’s page so that you can follow the returns. While we wait, enjoy Joe Biden blaming America’s economic troubles on the damned tea party that elected a Republican House and, I guess, stopped them from wasting who knows how much on a new stimulus package.


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FWIW: Obama leads uncommitted in KY by 58% to 42% with 96% of precincts reporting; he beat the felon 60% to 40%. While we’re on the subject, he leads 58.73% to 41.27% against Wolfe in AK (with only 4% reporting). Cue Twilight Zone theme.

smellthecoffee on May 22, 2012 at 9:16 PM

These primaries with 35%-40% vote against Obama aren’t getting anything like that kind of coverage Buchanan got.

Mark1971 on May 22, 2012 at 9:09 PM

….quelle surprise! (That’s Frogian, ya know?)

The War Planner on May 22, 2012 at 9:16 PM

Try dis again….Meanwhile…………..

US President Obama to accept Democratic presidential nomination Sept 6

– @PoliticalTickerStory
Submitted May. 16, 2012, 9:33 a.m.

http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/2012-elections

canopfor on May 22, 2012 at 9:18 PM

..what if the DEMS had run an UNCOMMITTED FELON SERVING JAIL TIME against JugEarz? Maybe he would have won the KY and Ark primaries.

The War Planner on May 22, 2012 at 9:15 PM

Yep.

Resist We Much on May 22, 2012 at 9:19 PM

Obama is losing 62 counties in KY to nobody.

forest on May 22, 2012 at 9:23 PM

Kentucky

Barack OBAMA (DEM) 118,300
‘UNCOMMITTED’ 84,599

97.5% Counted.

Wow!

JPeterman on May 22, 2012 at 9:27 PM

Ron Paul is struggling to beat Santorum, who dropped out, in AR.

I laugh because its funny.

Spliff Menendez on May 22, 2012 at 9:31 PM

smellthecoffee on May 22, 2012 at 9:16 PM

An INCUMBENT President who won in a minor landslide just four years ago should not be upstaged by incarcerated federal felons. Yes, he will win the primaries but these are supposed to be pro-forma events that shouldn’t even be of interest. That they are not is fun and humiliating to Team Obama.

Happy Nomad on May 22, 2012 at 9:32 PM

smellthecoffee on May 22, 2012 at 9:16 PM

An INCUMBENT President who won in a minor landslide just four years ago should not be upstaged by incarcerated federal felons. Yes, he will win the primaries but these are supposed to be pro-forma events that shouldn’t even be of interest. That they are not is fun and humiliating to Team Obama.

Happy Nomad on May 22, 2012 at 9:32 PM

If This stuff was happening to a sitting republican President, I would be very very concerned and outright panic mode come November

Conservative4ev on May 22, 2012 at 9:34 PM

That is funny about Paul/Santorum in AR. Ky has coal, too.

Kissmygrits on May 22, 2012 at 9:37 PM

Don’t know if this has been brought up before, but I remember what a big deal it was with the media that Pat Buchanan got 37% of the vote in New Hampshire against Bush in 1992.

Mark1971 on May 22, 2012 at 9:09 PM

Apples and Oranges Mark. New Hampshire, along with Iowa are A-list events at the beginning of the process before the long slog. Kentucky and Arkansas? Not so much.

Happy Nomad on May 22, 2012 at 9:37 PM

Happy Nomad on May 22, 2012 at 9:32 PM
Conservative4ev on May 22, 2012 at 9:34 PM

NC, WV, KY and AR indicate softening Dem support for the One and cannot be ignored. It should absolutely be panic in Dem ranks.

However, I’m happy if they continue to whistle past the graveyard just like in 2010.

Missy on May 22, 2012 at 9:39 PM

If This stuff was happening to a sitting republican President, I would be very very concerned and outright panic mode come November

Conservative4ev on May 22, 2012 at 9:34 PM

Dems are clearly in panic mode now. Why do you think they came out in support of free condoms for sluts at Georgetown Law and sodomy as the new definition of marriage just days after a “swing state” voted it down in a rout?

Happy Nomad on May 22, 2012 at 9:40 PM

Happy Nomad on May 22, 2012 at 9:32 PM
Conservative4ev on May 22, 2012 at 9:34 PM

NC, WV, KY and AR indicate softening Dem support for the One and cannot be ignored. It should absolutely be panic in Dem ranks.

However, I’m happy if they continue to whistle past the graveyard just like in 2010.

Missy on May 22, 2012 at 9:39 PM

Amen Missy

Conservative4ev on May 22, 2012 at 9:41 PM

Pretty sure Axelfraud will have a sleepless night this evening taking his anti-nausea meds in advance of the amount of spinning tomorrow will need…

hillsoftx on May 22, 2012 at 9:46 PM

If This stuff was happening to a sitting republican President, I would be very very concerned and outright panic mode come November

Conservative4ev on May 22, 2012 at 9:34 PM

True. And if it was a Republican could you imagine the media stories about how weak the incumbent is? They would be epic. But this will probably not even rate a mention on most network news broadcasts.

JohnInCA on May 22, 2012 at 9:47 PM

Harlan County, KY, on the VA border. Uncommitted 74%; Obama 26%.

Flora Duh on May 22, 2012 at 8:10 PM

Now that is Justified!

jazzuscounty on May 22, 2012 at 9:48 PM

Still only 4 counties reporting, but Obama’s lead in AR is shrinking with every update.

John Wolfe (DEM) 35.70%
Barack Obama (DEM) 64.30%

http://results.enr.clarityelections.com/AR/39376/82784/en/summary.html

Missy on May 22, 2012 at 9:51 PM

However, I’m happy if they continue to whistle past the graveyard just like in 2010.

Missy on May 22, 2012 at 9:39 PM

Here’s the thing. They see the numbers. They understand the “Yes we can” and “I’ll never have to pay for gas again” euphoria of 2008 is not part of this election. Obama has to run on his record of a stagnant economy, record prolonged unemployment, massive debt, and (of course) “getting” OBL.

They know full well that they should not be losing one county let alone 10 to an incarcerated federal felon. They know that there should be no question of the outcome of closed primaries. Yet all that stuff is happening. And is scares the hell out of them.

Happy Nomad on May 22, 2012 at 9:51 PM

Is it worse for a sitting president to go 58/42 against an incarcerated felon, or go 58/42 completely unopposed?

forest on May 22, 2012 at 9:51 PM

Are we at the point where we clink yet? 7% ?

Bmore on May 22, 2012 at 8:25 PM

…you guys *clink*…I’m going to *chug*

KOOLAID2 on May 22, 2012 at 9:53 PM

They know full well that they should not be losing one county let alone 10 to an incarcerated federal felon. They know that there should be no question of the outcome of closed primaries. Yet all that stuff is happening. And is scares the hell out of them.

Happy Nomad on May 22, 2012 at 9:51 PM

I agree, the strategists are worried, and they are making mistakes. Soon enough the wheels will come off. But the Dem rank and file seem blissfully unaware, at least so far. The longer they stay that way, the better, I think.

Missy on May 22, 2012 at 9:55 PM

Is it worse for a sitting president to go 58/42 against an incarcerated felon, or go 58/42 completely unopposed?

forest on May 22, 2012 at 9:51 PM

That’s a hard one

Conservative4ev on May 22, 2012 at 9:55 PM

What is it about Arkansas that can report 1 county seconds after polls close and an hour and a half later, they have only 4 reporting?

crosspatch on May 22, 2012 at 9:55 PM

The dems are counting dead people because wolfe was beating him

Conservative4ev on May 22, 2012 at 9:56 PM

crosspatch on May 22, 2012 at 9:55 PM

Absentee voting

cozmo on May 22, 2012 at 9:57 PM

Is it worse for a sitting president to go 58/42 against an incarcerated felon, or go 58/42 completely unopposed?

forest on May 22, 2012 at 9:51 PM

I would say the latter. In the former case at least there is another person said sitting president would be losing too, even if they are in prison. In the latter, there isn’t a physical person, the president is losing in effect to the collective will of a dissatisfied voting public within his own party.

Shogun144 on May 22, 2012 at 9:57 PM

Pretty sure Axelfraud will have a sleepless night this evening taking his anti-nausea meds in advance of the amount of spinning tomorrow will need…

hillsoftx on May 22, 2012 at 9:46 PM

…is more of his hair going to fall out?
…if this keeps going the way I hope it’s going…his head should look like James Carville’s top by Labor Day!

KOOLAID2 on May 22, 2012 at 9:57 PM

What is it about Arkansas that can report 1 county seconds after polls close and an hour and a half later, they have only 4 reporting?

crosspatch on May 22, 2012 at 9:55 PM

I wondered that too. If you look at the Counties Reporting tab, there are several that have partially reported, but only 4 have completely reported.

Missy on May 22, 2012 at 9:57 PM

and the good that a transaction tax could do.

Sigh, more language spin. Its a sales tax. Or is he promoting a tax for even used items.

oryguncon on May 22, 2012 at 9:58 PM

Obama has lost a county in Arkansas to Wolfe.

amerpundit on May 22, 2012 at 10:01 PM

Is it worse for a sitting president to go 58/42 against an incarcerated felon, or go 58/42 completely unopposed?

forest on May 22, 2012 at 9:51 PM

The felon, as one would be convicted and the other should be….

hillsoftx on May 22, 2012 at 10:03 PM

If O is doing this bad against a felon, Wolfe, and no one, I bet Hillary is kicking herself for not taking him on.

Russ86 on May 22, 2012 at 10:03 PM

Obama loses Jackson County 56-43%.

amerpundit on May 22, 2012 at 10:03 PM

I keep refreshing the page and still at 5 counties. Is that the same as holding their breathe until Obama wins??

marnes on May 22, 2012 at 10:05 PM

Wolfe in AR is getting >50% of recently reporting votes. The difference in absolute votes (not just percentage) is declining. Wolfe is now under 8000 votes difference and narrowing.

crosspatch on May 22, 2012 at 10:05 PM

Well, no sooner I say that than Obama is up over 9K

crosspatch on May 22, 2012 at 10:06 PM

Huh? Results just went backwards from 5 counties back to 4.

crosspatch on May 22, 2012 at 10:07 PM

Weird – Saline County had previously been shown as completely reported (green). Now it is back to yellow and a different county is newly green.

And Obama’s lead shrinks again:

John Wolfe (DEM) 37.58%
Barack Obama (DEM) 62.42%

Missy on May 22, 2012 at 10:07 PM

It looks like the counties that supported the One tended to have the lousiest turnout in KY.

forest on May 22, 2012 at 10:11 PM

Joe Biden all by himself is reason enough to vote against Obama. When he isn’t making an ass of himself, he’s lying.

flataffect on May 22, 2012 at 10:11 PM

Sarah Palin endorses Orrin Hatch in Utah over Dan Liljenquist.

amerpundit on May 22, 2012 at 10:11 PM

Obama now up by 11K votes.

crosspatch on May 22, 2012 at 10:12 PM

Weird – Saline County had previously been shown as completely reported (green). Now it is back to yellow and a different county is newly green.

Missy on May 22, 2012 at 10:07 PM

Much as we would like to think otherwise, vote counting is like sausage making. It isn’t pretty.

Happy Nomad on May 22, 2012 at 10:12 PM

Bill Clinton has to find a way to pull this out for the Ringer Candidate. Christ, he was Governor there for almost three terms, you’d think the old hound dog could figure out how to fix a Presidential Primary in his own party for Wolfe!

Come on, Bubba! Kick the Amateur’s Ass!

victor82 on May 22, 2012 at 10:13 PM

Sarah Palin endorses Orrin Hatch in Utah over Dan Liljenquist.

amerpundit on May 22, 2012 at 10:11 PM

Well, she did tell the tea party to lay off him in 2011:

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/palin-tells-tea-party-lay-off-orrin-hatch-165829376.html

crosspatch on May 22, 2012 at 10:14 PM

Much as we would like to think otherwise, vote counting is like sausage making. It isn’t pretty.

Happy Nomad on May 22, 2012 at 10:12 PM

Yeah. As long as they get it right, I don’t mind hiccups.

I have this weird feeling Arkansas is going to turn out to be even more of a goat than NC when this is all over. Especially since, home of the Clintons, etc.

Missy on May 22, 2012 at 10:14 PM

Wolfe has won three counties in Arkansas so far.

amerpundit on May 22, 2012 at 10:15 PM

Ok, I see what must be happening. They must have more than one server and when you connect to the election results at clarityelections.com you get bounced between them and they aren’t in sync. That must be why it keeps bouncing between 4 and 5 counties.

crosspatch on May 22, 2012 at 10:15 PM

Sarah Palin endorses Orrin Hatch in Utah over Dan Liljenquist.

amerpundit on May 22, 2012 at 10:11 PM

Good for Palin!

She endorsed Hatch back earlier in the cycle and if she had bailed in him now, it would have come back to haunt her.

Yes, I know Liljenquist is a Movement Con, but Hatch has been there for EVERY judge we’ve needed since Scalia, so don’t everyone start bitching about what Palin has done at once now!

Good on ya, Sarah!

victor82 on May 22, 2012 at 10:16 PM

My native Kentucky is providing the shock tonight… UNCOMMITTED is a serious `Rat primary opponent to Emperor Hussein LOL!

wildcat72 on May 22, 2012 at 10:17 PM

What is it about Arkansas that can report 1 county seconds after polls close and an hour and a half later, they have only 4 reporting?

crosspatch on May 22, 2012 at 9:55 PM

It is true in any race. I live in an extremely left-of-center district. They don’t need much of a return to predict the outcome.

Happy Nomad on May 22, 2012 at 10:17 PM

And… Hypenated-Name loses GOP primary in District 4…

http://www.wlky.com/news/politics/Massie-Adkins-to-square-off-in-4th-District/-/9365900/13660300/-/5ldedq/-/index.html

Hypenated-Name means she won’t take your NAME but will take your MONEY in the divorce…

wildcat72 on May 22, 2012 at 10:18 PM

Wolfe has won three counties in Arkansas so far.

amerpundit on May 22, 2012 at 10:15 PM

Really? Hard to understand how a guy who will not get any delegates wins over the guy who said the seas would recede by his very election! ;D

Happy Nomad on May 22, 2012 at 10:19 PM

My native Kentucky is providing the shock tonight… UNCOMMITTED is a serious `Rat primary opponent to Emperor Hussein LOL!

wildcat72 on May 22, 2012 at 10:17 PM

It isn’t going to matter. Obama didn’t win KY in 2008 and knows he won’t win it in 2012. He can safely ignore this result. Same with WV and AR. What will matter is results in a state he won in 2008.

crosspatch on May 22, 2012 at 10:19 PM

Sarah Palin endorses Orrin Hatch in Utah over Dan Liljenquist.

amerpundit on May 22, 2012 at 10:11 PM

Wrong choice, Ms. Palin.

jazzuscounty on May 22, 2012 at 10:19 PM

Looks like most of the returns are from the most densely populated counties in Arkansas. It’s probably going to get pretty interesting.

forest on May 22, 2012 at 10:20 PM

That must be why it keeps bouncing between 4 and 5 counties.

crosspatch on May 22, 2012 at 10:15 PM

Mine is showing 6.67% counties.

JPeterman on May 22, 2012 at 10:21 PM

It isn’t going to matter. Obama didn’t win KY in 2008 and knows he won’t win it in 2012. He can safely ignore this result. Same with WV and AR. What will matter is results in a state he won in 2008.

crosspatch on May 22, 2012 at 10:19 PM

The results in KY, WV, and AR indicate his weakness with working class people though. It will carry through to other states.

wildcat72 on May 22, 2012 at 10:22 PM

My native Kentucky is providing the shock tonight… UNCOMMITTED is a serious `Rat primary opponent to Emperor Hussein LOL!

wildcat72 on May 22, 2012 at 10:17 PM

Don’t forget what happened in 2008 when the Democratic Rules Committee counted the Michigan “uncommitted” votes and gave them to Obama. He was not even on the ballot!! Then they also took delegates from Hillary in Florida and awarded them to Obama.

bluefox on May 22, 2012 at 10:22 PM

It isn’t going to matter. Obama didn’t win KY in 2008 and knows he won’t win it in 2012. He can safely ignore this result. Same with WV and AR. What will matter is results in a state he won in 2008.

crosspatch on May 22, 2012 at 10:19 PM

jazzuscounty on May 22, 2012 at 10:23 PM

And those results are in Democrat primaries.

WannabeAnglican on May 22, 2012 at 10:23 PM

The results in KY, WV, and AR indicate his weakness with working class people though. It will carry through to other states.

wildcat72 on May 22, 2012 at 10:22 PM

Considering the primaries are nearly over, has there been a result like this in any state that he carried in 2008?

The only one I can think of is North Carolina where some 20% went with “none of the above”.

crosspatch on May 22, 2012 at 10:24 PM

The results in KY, WV, and AR indicate his weakness with working class people though. It will carry through to other states.

wildcat72 on May 22, 2012 at 10:22 PM

Plus, the optics are teh awesome!

IrishEi on May 22, 2012 at 10:25 PM

Hypenated-Name means she won’t take your NAME but will take your MONEY in the divorce…

wildcat72 on May 22, 2012 at 10:18 PM

OK, that was funny.

4Grace on May 22, 2012 at 10:25 PM

It isn’t going to matter. Obama didn’t win KY in 2008 and knows he won’t win it in 2012. He can safely ignore this result. Same with WV and AR. What will matter is results in a state he won in 2008.

crosspatch on May 22, 2012 at 10:19 PM

jazzuscounty on May 22, 2012 at 10:23 PM

Note to self: hit the right key!

It still looks bad, really bad, and I must admit, it gives me great joy to see those kinds of results. At least I know some Americans are awake and ready to take back our country.

jazzuscounty on May 22, 2012 at 10:26 PM

It isn’t going to matter. Obama didn’t win KY in 2008 and knows he won’t win it in 2012. He can safely ignore this result. Same with WV and AR. What will matter is results in a state he won in 2008.

crosspatch on May 22, 2012 at 10:19 PM

Yes, it will matter in that it indicates depressed Dem support across the board.

Also there is the matter of coattails. Some of these red states have important Senate and House races.

Missy on May 22, 2012 at 10:27 PM

WTF, now the main page reports 2 counties out of 75 reporting.

crosspatch on May 22, 2012 at 10:27 PM

Don’t forget what happened in 2008 when the Democratic Rules Committee counted the Michigan “uncommitted” votes and gave them to Obama. He was not even on the ballot!! Then they also took delegates from Hillary in Florida and awarded them to Obama.

bluefox on May 22, 2012 at 10:22 PM

Holy cow, really? Do you have a link for that, please?

herm2416 on May 22, 2012 at 10:28 PM

The Kentucky primaries are CLOSED PRIMARIES. Meaning I had almost nothing to vote for this morning except to choose Massie in District 4 vs Hyphenated-name.

So it is REGISTERED DEMOCRATS who are choosing UNCOMMITTED over Obama..

wildcat72 on May 22, 2012 at 10:28 PM

Wrong choice, Ms. Palin.

jazzuscounty on May 22, 2012 at 10:19 PM

He’s going to win..:)

idesign on May 22, 2012 at 10:28 PM

crosspatch on May 22, 2012 at 10:14 PM

she got orrins mind right. time for mitt.

renalin on May 22, 2012 at 10:28 PM

Now it is down to only 2 counties completely reported. But Wolfe continues to gain.

Ah well, I will look forward to checking in tomorrow morning…

Missy on May 22, 2012 at 10:29 PM

WTF, now the main page reports 2 counties out of 75 reporting.

crosspatch on May 22, 2012 at 10:27 PM

Check it now, CP…7 counties and it’s narrowing! :-)

IrishEi on May 22, 2012 at 10:29 PM

I think Obama and the Administration is just fine with Wolfe getting votes and also the person in prison too. Think about it..
They know every vote that Wolfe and any other Democratic opponent receives won’t hurt Obama at all; after all they can’t win. Also keep in mind that very few States have closed primaries anymore.

However…every vote that any Democratic opponent receives is a vote that Romney would not receive. That is why you don’t hear a peep out of Obama or the Administration, Alexrod, etc about this.

Just my thots on this.

bluefox on May 22, 2012 at 10:30 PM

jazzuscounty on May 22, 2012 at 10:26 PM

Agree. This, to me, is basically a poll stating 40% of Dems are not happy with him. Just hoping they stay home or vote anyone else in Nov.

Russ86 on May 22, 2012 at 10:30 PM

Holy cow, really? Do you have a link for that, please?

herm2416 on May 22, 2012 at 10:28 PM

The 2008 primary was so dirty it wasn’t funny. Ballots for people other than Obama thrown away, people’s announced choices being ignored and counted for Obama, etc.

Try the documentary “We will not be silenced”.

crosspatch on May 22, 2012 at 10:30 PM

of course Sarah couldn’t support lilenquistwhatever. he worked for……BAIN hahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

renalin on May 22, 2012 at 10:30 PM

Now it is down to only 2 counties completely reported. But Wolfe continues to gain.

Ah well, I will look forward to checking in tomorrow morning…

Missy on May 22, 2012 at 10:29 PM

Counties Completely Reported: 7 of 75
Counties Percent Reported: 9.33 %

John Wolfe (DEM)
40.23% 25,343
Barack Obama (DEM)
59.77% 37,645
62,988

JPeterman on May 22, 2012 at 10:31 PM

It isn’t going to matter. Obama didn’t win KY in 2008 and knows he won’t win it in 2012. He can safely ignore this result. Same with WV and AR. What will matter is results in a state he won in 2008.

crosspatch on May 22, 2012 at 10:19 PM

It absolutely matters for popcorn futures…

hillsoftx on May 22, 2012 at 10:32 PM

It isn’t going to matter. Obama didn’t win KY in 2008 and knows he won’t win it in 2012. He can safely ignore this result. Same with WV and AR. What will matter is results in a state he won in 2008.

crosspatch on May 22, 2012 at 10:19 PM

It absolutely matters for popcorn futures…

hillsoftx on May 22, 2012 at 10:32 PM

It matters.

2008 was the only election since the Civil War that Kentucky didn’t go to the winner…

wildcat72 on May 22, 2012 at 10:33 PM

bluefox on May 22, 2012 at 10:22 PM

Holy cow, really? Do you have a link for that, please?

herm2416 on May 22, 2012 at 10:28 PM

I’m sure I do, but it may be on one of my other PC’s since I’m on my newest Laptop at the moment. I watched the entire thing live in May (the 29th I think) in 2008. They did that so Obama would have enough delegates to become the Nominee instead of Clinton. Will look for the info.

bluefox on May 22, 2012 at 10:34 PM

@ herm2416

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/Byl

bluefox on May 22, 2012 at 10:37 PM

If Kentucky had open primaries, UNCOMMITTED would have DEFEATED him in the `Rat primary with the addition of Republican crossovers…

wildcat72 on May 22, 2012 at 10:38 PM

2008 was the only election since the Civil War that Kentucky didn’t go to the winner…

wildcat72 on May 22, 2012 at 10:33 PM

Wow. Never knew that. You never hear Kentucky spoken of as a bellwether.

Mark1971 on May 22, 2012 at 10:39 PM

So, screw Biden & Hillary. Obama should have this UNCOMMITTED as his VP running mate. LOL

4Grace on May 22, 2012 at 10:40 PM

Well if my local ABC affiliate has the right numbers, Barry has been DENIED by 16 counties in Arkansas where votes are completely in or close to it (Bradley, Cleburne, Cross, Fulton, Grant, Independence, Izard, Jackson, Lincoln, Nevada, Perry, Pike, Prairie, Scott, Stone, Yell).

Maybe old Blanche Lincoln can call him up and offer her condolences. There’s little in this state that’s less popular than Obamacare. Well, maybe gay marriage is, but … uh, whoops!

NoLeftTurn on May 22, 2012 at 10:41 PM

So, screw Biden & Hillary. Obama should have this UNCOMMITTED as his VP running mate. LOL

4Grace on May 22, 2012 at 10:40 PM

Now that’s funny, LOL

bluefox on May 22, 2012 at 10:42 PM

One thing I thought was odd. I live in a neighborhood what is mostly Chinese, Indian, and white. But mostly people from China and India. There are three or four black families in the area. The polling place in 2008 was completely staffed by black poll workers I had never seen before. To make it more interesting, they moved my polling place out of my precinct into a neighboring one and moved theirs to ours. Weird. When I went to my usual polling place, I was informed that my precinct wasn’t voting there this year, then one of the poll workers took me over to the map and showed me where my polling place was this year. That person got chewed out for helping me, apparently I was just to be turned away without assistance. My correct polling place was also staffed with black poll workers I didn’t know except for two older white folks (one man, one woman, both white hair, probably at least in their 70′s).

Extrapolating from exit polling, Obama had something like 98% support among black Americans. I am willing to bet that both polling places were stacked with Obama supporters.

Demographic of the local elementary school says 0% African American. Demographic of the middle school says 2% African American. Where did those poll workers come from? And I haven’t seen them since. Elections since then have gone back to being staffed by the usual contingent of older Chinese and White folks and my polling place is back where it belongs.

Now also consider that Obama owns the DNC. He moved the whole operation from Washington DC to Chicago.

Nobody can run against Obama and win. The party apparatus has been completely taken over by Obama supporters and they will not allow anyone else to challenge him.

crosspatch on May 22, 2012 at 10:42 PM

Wow. Never knew that. You never hear Kentucky spoken of as a bellwether.

Mark1971 on May 22, 2012 at 10:39 PM

http://www.270towin.com/states/Kentucky

That only shows back to 1972, but you can see over the last 40 years, 2008 was THE ONLY TIME Kentucky has gone to the loser in a Presidential Election.

wildcat72 on May 22, 2012 at 10:43 PM

News flash, Barry Barack Hussein Obama Sotero changes his name to Uncommitted.

Russ86 on May 22, 2012 at 10:45 PM

Obama and Jesus have a lot in common. They both have halos and both have the middle initial H. How many more signs do you need, for crying out loud?

crosspatch on May 22, 2012 at 10:46 PM

49% in AR, Obama at 60%.

99% in KY, Obama at 58%

36% in AR-4, Tom Cotton up with 54%

topdawg on May 22, 2012 at 10:48 PM

Good on ya, Sarah!

victor82 on May 22, 2012 at 10:16 PM

I agree. Sarah said on Greta tonight that Hatch is committed to getting a balanced budget amendment thru the Senate. Also, he is next in line for a position but can’t remember at the moment what it is!! Maybe someone else knows, sorry. All I know it is important:-)

bluefox on May 22, 2012 at 10:49 PM

Obama should have this UNCOMMITTED as his VP running mate.

4Grace on May 22, 2012 at 10:40 PM

I thought that was Biden’s role. Seriously a self-important Senator from an insignificant state. How much closer can you get to uncommitted than that?

Happy Nomad on May 22, 2012 at 10:52 PM

What is it about Arkansas that can report 1 county seconds after polls close and an hour and a half later, they have only 4 reporting?

crosspatch on May 22, 2012 at 9:55 PM

Probably “Early” voting totals…

Gohawgs on May 22, 2012 at 10:53 PM

I looked over the data.. Kentucky has voted for the winner in nearly every election since 1924, with three exceptions: 1952, 1960, and 2008.

Kentucky was also the only “Western” state that got to vote for George Washington, in 1792.

wildcat72 on May 22, 2012 at 10:54 PM

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