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posted at 9:25 pm on May 18, 2012 by Allahpundit

Calories, number of hours spent exercising, number of pounds to lose, those who are overweight now have a new number to worry about: a “fat” tax…

A tax of at least 20 percent placed on sugar-sweetened drinks could drop obesity rates by 3.5 percent and prevent 2,700 heart-related deaths each year, according to the study…

According to the study, some food industry groups say higher taxes could damage the industry and lead to job losses.

But some experts say that cost to jobs is not as risky as the economic cost if Americans remain obese. Obesity costs American businesses $70 billion in lost productivity, another statistic presented in the HBO documentary series.

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A whopping 96% of main entrees sold at top U.S. chain eateries exceed daily limits for calories, sodium, fat and saturated fat recommended by the U.S. Department of Agriculture, reports the 18-month study conducted by the Rand Corp. and funded by the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation.

“If you’re eating out tonight, your chances of finding an entree that’s truly healthy are painfully low,” says Helen Wu, assistant policy analyst at Rand who oversaw the study. It examined the nutritional content of 30,923 menu items from 245 restaurant brands across the USA. “The restaurant industry needs to make big changes to be part of the solution,” she says.

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“Economists generally agree that government intervention, including taxation, is justified when the market fails to provide the optimum amount of a good for society’s well-being,” writes Mytton. “[This] include[s] a failure to appreciate the true association between diet and disease, time inconsistency (preference for short-term gratification over long-term well-being), and not bearing the full health and social costs of consumption.”…

Other studies have shown people with lower incomes struggle more with weight gain. In the review, the authors argue a tax could greatly influence the eating habits of lower-income people. “There is some evidence that those who are poorer are more sensitive to price changes and so would experience greater dietary improvements,” writes Mytton.

But just how plausible is this fat tax? The authors note that the food industry argues taxes would be ineffective, unfair and would lead to job losses in the industry. But U.S. opinion polls show support for sugared beverage taxes ranges from 37% to 72%; people tend to be more in favor when the health benefits of fat taxes are emphasized. Previous studies show that a sharp tax hike on cigarettes in 2009 led to a significant decrease in U.S. smokers. The hope is that a fat tax could produce the same results.

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Make junk food harder to find. Redesign the layouts of grocery stores and cafeterias. Make good-for-you-foods easier to find and make sugar-sweetened beverages and fatty packaged pastries something you have to go on a treasure hunt for. Relegate obesity-promoting foods to bottom shelves and do not give them prime real estate…

Ban unhealthy portion size advertising. I think anything with the word “monster,” “jumbo,” “enormous,” “gut-buster,” or any such verbiage that describes huge portion sizes should not appear in advertising. I do think calorie, saturated fat, and sodium levels should be proudly displayed in all food and beverage advertisements. You want to promote a big gulp? Great. Also post what the cost of gastric bypass surgery is these days. You want to promote overeating on a food show? Great. Also post a Surgeon General’s warning that this type of behavior may also cause diabetes, contribute to heart disease, lead to erectile disorder…you get the idea…

Make federal funding of healthy communities a priority. The CDC gave 17 million dollars to the 2nd fattest city in America (Nashville) to improve city bike and walk ways among other projects to get citizens to move. They have also implemented exercise programs for their police and fire departments to help them get and stay in shape. Many communities do not have adequate sidewalks, ample lighting, or parks and recreational facilities to encourage their citizens to get moving. What wasn’t discussed was the cost of park district or health club memberships. Financial barriers need to be knocked down between those who want to be physically fit and the facilities that can help make that happen.

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Ice cream versus obesity is the key imponderable about the whole policy. I find there’s a striking contrast with the idea of a congestion-based road tax, as advanced by the Institute for Fiscal Studies this week. The case for the congestion tax is pretty unanswerable: every driver who joins rush-hour traffic is making it worse for every other driver. If we could all get together and agree to drive a bit less, we’d all be better off because when we did drive, our journeys would be quicker and less uncertain. But we can’t enforce that kind of agreement, hence the need for the tax.

It’s all the same: obesity is bad and traffic is bad. I’m not sure why you’re trying to make a distinction.

It’s not the same at all. Each driver causes a problem for others and she can’t be expected to take that into account. But an ice cream lover is causing a problem only for himself. It remains to be demonstrated that he would find an ice cream tax helpful.

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Twinkies and Coke are only half the problem; making them expensive might deter customers, but it won’t make vegetables cheap. It also won’t make it easier for people in food deserts to access fresh food, and it won’t teach people how to make healthy meals. And what’s really horrifying is that, for people who can literally barely afford to feed their families junk food from the 99-cent store, raising prices on even bad-for-you foods would mean that they basically don’t get to eat enough. So not only would they be malnourished; they’d literally be starving.

There are plenty of other logistical issues, like how we would define “unhealthy” foods, and how difficult it would be to implement. But what’s most frustrating to me about the whole idea of a ‘fat tax’ is that it completely overlooks the fact that those foods are cheap to begin with because of food subsidies.

If you’re not familiar with food subsidies, the basic concept is that the government gives money to certain agricultural industries in order to supplement their income, thereby influencing the cost and supply of certain commodities. In the U.S., the meat and dairy industries get huge boosts from the government, as do corn farmers—which is part of why things like Twinkies, Coke, and cheeseburgers are so damn cheap.

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bazil9
Yes bazil9, it was me on the ski. ; )

Bmore on May 18, 2012 at 11:48 PM

I think this White House has been taking a dump on us every night. And day.

4Grace on May 18, 2012 at 11:39 PM

+ 100..That is a definite nominee for thread winner!!..:)

Dire Straits on May 18, 2012 at 11:49 PM

I don’t eat out to diet – I eat out to pig out!

Govt, mind your own damn business!

OldEnglish on May 18, 2012 at 11:47 PM

That is another excellent nominee for thread winner!..:)

Dire Straits on May 18, 2012 at 11:50 PM

+ 100..That is a definite nominee for thread winner!!..:)

Dire Straits on May 18, 2012 at 11:49 PM

Seconded

22044 on May 18, 2012 at 11:51 PM

Dire Straits QOTD song. A little OT.

Bmore on May 18, 2012 at 11:53 PM

Boy…
France has some learnin’ to do with their new President….

Electrongod on May 18, 2012 at 11:53 PM

Electrongod, I think they will continue to be French.

Bmore on May 18, 2012 at 11:54 PM

This is due a repeat from last night..RIP Donna Summer..:)

Dire Straits on May 18, 2012 at 11:55 PM

Electrongod, I think they will continue to be French.

Bmore on May 18, 2012 at 11:54 PM

History….Huh?

I think you’re right..

Electrongod on May 18, 2012 at 11:55 PM

This is due a repeat from last night..RIP Donna Summer..:)

Dire Straits on May 18, 2012 at 11:55 PM

I downloaded all these songs yesterday…
I haven’t heard them for around 20 years…..
She was great…

But…….this is HA…

So pardon me…

Uppereastside is Bad Girl…

Electrongod on May 18, 2012 at 11:58 PM

So what is tonight’s off topic discussion about?

I think we should stop letting the Chinese loan us money until they buy some of our cheese.

SparkPlug on May 18, 2012 at 11:59 PM

Electrongod, I’m afraid the best we can hope for is that history will repeat.

Bmore on May 18, 2012 at 11:59 PM

Well screw that. I was going on a diet…

But now I’m going to fill my garage with Regular Cola and Little Debbie concentrated sugar snacks.. Lets see, I can fill the guest room and the back half of the den with potato chips.

Not sure where to store the fried pork rinds unless I pitch a tent though

LegendHasIt on May 19, 2012 at 12:00 AM

Electrongod, I’m afraid the best we can hope for is that history will repeat.

Bmore on May 18, 2012 at 11:59 PM

Whoa….

Damn straight of ya…

Luv the guitar..

Electrongod on May 19, 2012 at 12:00 AM

Electrongod, I think they will continue to be French.

Bmore on May 18, 2012 at 11:54 PM

ROFL

4Grace on May 19, 2012 at 12:01 AM

I think we should stop letting the Chinese loan us money until they buy some of our cheese.

SparkPlug on May 18, 2012 at 11:59 PM

Don’t hold your breath.

Logus on May 19, 2012 at 12:03 AM

Uppereastside is Bad Girl…

Electrongod on May 18, 2012 at 11:58 PM

roflmao!..:)

Dire Straits on May 19, 2012 at 12:04 AM

d1carter on May 18, 2012 at 11:58 PM

Serious question..Why does this suprise you??!!??..:)

Dire Straits on May 19, 2012 at 12:06 AM

Donna Summer was not a member of the Four Seasons. Neither was Edgar Winter.

SparkPlug on May 19, 2012 at 12:07 AM

Sugar Mountain

lynncgb on May 19, 2012 at 12:09 AM

Bmore on May 18, 2012 at 11:53 PM

Good one..We are in Moving Pictures..:)

Dire Straits on May 19, 2012 at 12:09 AM

Sugar Mountain

lynncgb on May 19, 2012 at 12:09 AM

Ah, GREAT song for QOTD.

4Grace on May 19, 2012 at 12:10 AM

Not sure where to store the fried pork rinds unless I pitch a tent though

LegendHasIt on May 19, 2012 at 12:00 AM

They used to make microwavable pork rinds.

RickB on May 19, 2012 at 12:10 AM

LegendHasIt on May 19, 2012 at 12:00 AM

Go for it!!..:)

Dire Straits on May 19, 2012 at 12:11 AM

Dire Straits on May 19, 2012 at 12:06 AM

Serious answer, I didn’t realize Tommy was a Lizard boy…LOL.

d1carter on May 19, 2012 at 12:11 AM

Sad. RIP Donna Summer.

It will be a sad day when Pink Floyd dies. I hope he gets regular check ups and watches his cholesterol.

SparkPlug on May 19, 2012 at 12:13 AM

Dire Straits on May 19, 2012 at 12:06 AM

Aren’t Ed and Tommy big buddies..?

d1carter on May 19, 2012 at 12:13 AM

Back in the day..

I worked in France…
The local Bastille was a restaurant..
Oversized Hamster balls transported you to the restaurant on the unreachable mountain side..

What’s my point?

Absolutely nothing…

Just…

Good night Dire, 4grace, and the one with all numbers…:)

22044

Electrongod on May 19, 2012 at 12:13 AM

lynncgb on May 19, 2012 at 12:09 AM

Or you could go this way wanting. Sorry about the short skip ad.

Bmore on May 19, 2012 at 12:14 AM

That this could even be debated in the a so-called free society is frightening.

Tyranny, plain and simple.

This is what comes of surrendering your heath care to government control.

You eventually surrender all else.

Hawkins1701 on May 19, 2012 at 12:14 AM

Goodnight Bmore…..

Electrongod on May 19, 2012 at 12:16 AM

Goodnight, Electrongod. :)

4Grace on May 19, 2012 at 12:16 AM

Has Dr. Telsa been around lately?

SparkPlug on May 19, 2012 at 12:16 AM

Good Night Electrongod, If you ever get back to France near Nancy, be sure to check out the Excelsior.

Bmore on May 19, 2012 at 12:17 AM

But now I’m going to fill my garage with Regular Cola and Little Debbie concentrated sugar snacks..

LegendHasIt on May 19, 2012 at 12:00 AM

Bad idea. I did something like that years ago. Had a couple Little Debbie snacks in my desk from a lunch I didn’t finish. They sat there for a number of months. One day I was looking for a snack and remembered them. One bite and found out that they had molded on the inside. Mold does not taste like a nice sugary snack. Mold does not taste good. At.all.

AZfederalist on May 19, 2012 at 12:17 AM

Bmore on May 19, 2012 at 12:14 AM

:)

4Grace on May 19, 2012 at 12:18 AM

Good Night Electrongod, If you ever get back to France near Nancy, be sure to check out the Excelsior.

Bmore on May 19, 2012 at 12:17 AM

Signing off…Seriously…
But you and I need to talk…….
Just compare notes….
Cool place that is…

Electrongod on May 19, 2012 at 12:19 AM

Has Dr. Telsa been around lately?

SparkPlug on May 19, 2012 at 12:16 AM

I haven’t noticed him lately. I saw him in some headlines, oh geez, at least a couple of weeks ago?

4Grace on May 19, 2012 at 12:19 AM

Absolutely because the federal government has been soooo successful with the war on drugs,war on crime,war on poverty,education,mortgages.

sonnyspats1 on May 19, 2012 at 12:21 AM

Serious answer, I didn’t realize Tommy was a Lizard boy…LOL.

d1carter on May 19, 2012 at 12:11 AM

Tommy is a huge Liberal!!..:)

Dire Straits on May 19, 2012 at 12:21 AM

AZfederalist on May 19, 2012 at 12:17 AM

LOL, that is sooo gross. Now I’ll have to eat some sugary chocolatey snack just to get that out of my mind. :)

4Grace on May 19, 2012 at 12:22 AM

Aren’t Ed and Tommy big buddies..?

d1carter on May 19, 2012 at 12:13 AM

Yes they are friends..:)

Dire Straits on May 19, 2012 at 12:23 AM

So what is tonight’s off topic discussion about?

I think we should stop letting the Chinese loan us money until they buy some of our cheese.

SparkPlug on May 18, 2012 at 11:59 PM

We could just as easily give them the cheese, then let them loan us the money, but never pay them back.

That’s effectively the same thing. Plus we’re already doing two of those three anyway.

RINO in Name Only on May 19, 2012 at 12:23 AM

4Grace on May 19, 2012 at 12:19 AM

Thanks. I haven’t been following the action much.

SparkPlug on May 19, 2012 at 12:24 AM

Electrongod, anytime friend. Sleep Well.

Bmore on May 19, 2012 at 12:26 AM

SparkPlug on May 19, 2012 at 12:13 AM

That was mean man!..:)

Dire Straits on May 19, 2012 at 12:26 AM

RINO in Name Only on May 19, 2012 at 12:23 AM

Ya know that’s absolutely true. We need to borrow more money from them to pay back the money they already lent us.

SparkPlug on May 19, 2012 at 12:27 AM

Not a dime more in taxes.

Let the gov’t cut the lard from all their bennies, spending, crookery, cheating, waste, parties, mind-readers, conferences and etc.

Michelle Obama, you go first, hon. Eleonor Roosevelt is NOT proud of you.

Schadenfreude on May 19, 2012 at 12:27 AM

Thanks. I haven’t been following the action much.

SparkPlug on May 19, 2012 at 12:24 AM

I’ve missed a bit myself, so that is just my observation. Perhaps someone else has seen him. :)

BTW, I’m in need of a Tech Tip of the Day, please!

4Grace on May 19, 2012 at 12:29 AM

4Grace on May 19, 2012 at 12:18 AM

FYI..Check out the number count!!..:):)

Dire Straits on May 19, 2012 at 12:29 AM

Of course if its hard rock candy you’re looking for.

Bmore on May 19, 2012 at 12:31 AM

Hows this idea……. welfare cannot be used on fatty or sugary foods or drinks……. most ppl who work hard for a living are not very overweight …….. Oh forgot that would upset their base……

angrymike on May 19, 2012 at 12:31 AM

Schadenfreude, had to be in the city today. The moochers were out in force. My blood was boiling. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bmore on May 19, 2012 at 12:33 AM

FYI..Check out the number count!!..:):)

Dire Straits on May 19, 2012 at 12:29 AM

Amazing. 500 million or bust!!

4Grace on May 19, 2012 at 12:34 AM

Of course if its hard rock candy you’re looking for.

Bmore on May 19, 2012 at 12:31 AM

I wondered if someone was going to play that! Good job, B.

4Grace on May 19, 2012 at 12:35 AM

If you didn’t know it was Friday night you could figure it out just from this thread.

Carry on!

Bob's Kid on May 19, 2012 at 12:35 AM

Sparkplug @ 12:14 pm
Pink Floyd is two different ppl, ones name is pink the other is Floyd, wow how did you miss that?

angrymike on May 19, 2012 at 12:36 AM

Bmore on May 19, 2012 at 12:33 AM

My sincere condolences!

Schadenfreude on May 19, 2012 at 12:36 AM

Or, there is always classic sugar.

Bmore on May 19, 2012 at 12:37 AM

Schadenfreude on May 19, 2012 at 12:36 AM

Thanks, I’m doing my best to unwind. It was just brutal. Absolutely despicable.

Bmore on May 19, 2012 at 12:39 AM

OK, having a senior moment here, so forgive me if this was already played. :)

4Grace on May 19, 2012 at 12:41 AM

Hows everyone in H/A land tonight?
4Grace
your rib getting any better?

angrymike on May 19, 2012 at 12:41 AM

4Grace on May 19, 2012 at 12:34 AM

Do you remember this band?..:)

Dire Straits on May 19, 2012 at 12:43 AM

Or maybe you’re looking for something sweet and spicy.

Bmore on May 19, 2012 at 12:44 AM

Hows everyone in H/A land tonight?
4Grace
your rib getting any better?

angrymike on May 19, 2012 at 12:41 AM

Hey there, mike! Slowly, but surely I’m on the mend. I’m too mean to keep down for long. ;)

How are you doing on this fine Friday?

4Grace on May 19, 2012 at 12:44 AM

BTW, I’m in need of a Tech Tip of the Day, please!

4Grace on May 19, 2012 at 12:29 AM

Well my streak of tech tips was interrupted due to a major giltch. A giant slab of cheese lasagna slid off my plate and onto my keyboard.

Today’s Tech Tip:

How to clean cheese lasagna off your keyboard.

1. Buy tickets to NY Rangers vs Montreal Canadians hockey game.
2. Get front row seats and bring your keyboard.
3. During half time the Zamboni (it’s Italian too) will come out.
4. That’s your cue to throw your keyboard in front of it.
5. That wonderful invention that smoothes out the ice will melt off all the cheese residue and tomato sauce resorting your keyboard to a fresh zesty state.

BTW I know hockey games don’t have half times. They have periods.

SparkPlug on May 19, 2012 at 12:45 AM

Do you remember this band?..:)

Dire Straits on May 19, 2012 at 12:43 AM

Yes! I have forgotten about so many of the 80s groups. I tend to remember/play more 70s stuff. It is so much fun when you and some others jog my memory. :)

4Grace on May 19, 2012 at 12:48 AM

angrymike on May 19, 2012 at 12:36 AM

Facepalm. I am really embarrassed for not knowing that piece of rock trivia. Are you a geologist?

SparkPlug on May 19, 2012 at 12:50 AM

4Grace
I’m very tired, o/t is kickin my butt…….. I work 2 weeks on o/t one off, so I’ll be myself again by Sunday. I do hope your feeling better…….;-)

angrymike on May 19, 2012 at 12:51 AM

“If you’re eating out tonight, your chances of finding an entree that’s truly healthy are painfully low,” says Helen Wu, assistant policy analyst at Rand who oversaw the study. It examined the nutritional content of 30,923 menu items from 245 restaurant brands across the USA. “The restaurant industry needs to make big changes to be part of the solution,” she says.

If you think you’ve got great ideas on how a restaurant should be one BUY ONE AND RUN IT INSTEAD OF DECIDING YOU’RE A FASCIST WHO CAN CONTROL HOW OTHER PEOPLE MANAGE THEIR PROPERTY.

Any questions?

“Economists generally agree that government intervention, including taxation, is justified when the market fails to provide the optimum amount of a good for society’s well-being,” writes Mytton

Economists generally agree that creeping fascism and limiting freedom and good things that we should always do. The government is really good and much smarter than people…

Which is simply proving economists might be stupider than politicians, and are certainly stupider than the general public.

Make junk food harder to find. Redesign the layouts of grocery stores and cafeterias. Make good-for-you-foods easier to find and make sugar-sweetened beverages and fatty packaged pastries something you have to go on a treasure hunt for.

Take choices away from people, force them to do what you want; limit their options, restrict their freedoms. You know, we have to enslave them and control them for their own good.

Just like we had to enslave the blacks because they weren’t smart enough to take care of themselves… or so the slave owners claimed.

Freedom cannot be allowed. But we mean our slaves well… we’re really what is best for them… said the slave owners in the past as well.

Nice collection of articles by fascists looking to control and enslave the populace… because the people are just not smart enough to take care of themselves without the kind slave master controlling them.

*BARF*

gekkobear on May 19, 2012 at 12:51 AM

Maybe you like dreamy sex while you drink and eat.

Bmore on May 19, 2012 at 12:52 AM

SparkPlug on May 19, 2012 at 12:45 AM

ROFLMAO. That’s what I needed!

4Grace on May 19, 2012 at 12:53 AM

Donna Summer was not a member of the Four Seasons. Neither was Edgar Winter.

SparkPlug on May 19, 2012 at 12:07 AM

No, but Frankie Valli was and I think this classic fits in nicely with the thread topic.

Flora Duh on May 19, 2012 at 12:54 AM

Sparkplug
no I just study music like Obama edits papers……..

angrymike on May 19, 2012 at 12:55 AM

4Grace
I’m very tired, o/t is kickin my butt…….. I work 2 weeks on o/t one off, so I’ll be myself again by Sunday. I do hope your feeling better…….;-)

angrymike on May 19, 2012 at 12:51 AM

Dang, that’s a rough schedule. And yet, you still make time to come here and visit with the HA gang.
You’re a giver, mike. ;)

4Grace on May 19, 2012 at 12:55 AM

4Grace, and he’s really not all that angry. ; )

Bmore on May 19, 2012 at 12:57 AM

4Grace on May 19, 2012 at 12:48 AM

Good deal!..:)

Dire Straits on May 19, 2012 at 12:57 AM

Flora Duh, schweet! ; )

Bmore on May 19, 2012 at 12:58 AM

Flora duh
wait one minute ……… the four seasons are spring, summer, fall and winter, I see no Frankie in that……;)-

angrymike on May 19, 2012 at 12:58 AM

Maybe you like dreamy sex while you drink and eat.

Bmore on May 19, 2012 at 12:52 AM

Love King Crimson!

4Grace on May 19, 2012 at 12:59 AM

*BARF*

gekkobear on May 19, 2012 at 12:51 AM

Be careful. I think there’s a tax on that, too.

4Grace on May 19, 2012 at 1:00 AM

Bmore on May 19, 2012 at 12:52 AM

Maybe you will get a letter!!..:)

Dire Straits on May 19, 2012 at 1:00 AM

Had a couple Little Debbie snacks in my desk from a lunch I didn’t finish. They sat there for a number of months. One day I was looking for a snack and remembered them. One bite and found out that they had molded on the inside. Mold does not taste like a nice sugary snack. Mold does not taste good. At.all.

AZfederalist on May 19, 2012 at 12:17 AM

Had a professor in the seventies who had a thing about students eating too much junk food.
His rationale was that the shelf-life of most goodies like Twinkies was so artificially elongated as to remove any possible nutritional value.
And “if mold won’t grow on it, neither will you.”

Didn’t stop anyone from eating the Twinkes, so far as I know.

AesopFan on May 19, 2012 at 1:00 AM

Bmore, 4Grace
Your to kind…..;-) ……but now I am off to lala land, good night all the great ppl of h/a, I’m out…..;)

angrymike on May 19, 2012 at 1:01 AM

4Grace, and he’s really not all that angry. ; )

Bmore on May 19, 2012 at 12:57 AM

Not at all. It’s all a front to scare off trolls. :)

4Grace on May 19, 2012 at 1:02 AM

But what’s most frustrating to me about the whole idea of a ‘fat tax’ is that it completely overlooks the fact that those foods are cheap to begin with because of food subsidies.

Not the only government shell game, but one of the least rational.

AesopFan on May 19, 2012 at 1:02 AM

Flora Duh on May 19, 2012 at 12:54 AM

Good one.

4Grace on May 19, 2012 at 1:04 AM

Had a professor in the seventies who had a thing about students eating too much junk food.
His rationale was that the shelf-life of most goodies like Twinkies was so artificially elongated as to remove any possible nutritional value.
And “if mold won’t grow on it, neither will you.”

Didn’t stop anyone from eating the Twinkes, so far as I know.

AesopFan on May 19, 2012 at 1:00 AM

Wow, really? Twinkies don’t have any nutritional value? That’s pretty deep and insightful. I can see why he got tenure.

RINO in Name Only on May 19, 2012 at 1:05 AM

4Grace, angymike is one of the very good ones. ; )

Bmore on May 19, 2012 at 1:05 AM

Maybe you will get a letter!!..:)

Dire Straits on May 19, 2012 at 1:00 AM

Another oldie, but funky! :)

4Grace on May 19, 2012 at 1:06 AM

Goodnight, angrymike. Rest up!

4Grace on May 19, 2012 at 1:07 AM

angrymike on May 19, 2012 at 1:01 AM

Goodnight Mike.

If anybody needs me, I’ll be at YouTube watching a documentary of Woodrow Wilson. Why I decided to start watching an almost 3 hour documentary at 1 a.m. is a mystery, even to me. lol

Flora Duh on May 19, 2012 at 1:08 AM

Maybe you will get a letter!!..:)

Dire Straits on May 19, 2012 at 1:00 AM

Or an email if I load the ultimate Democrat theme song by G.G. Allin. I think I’ll avoid the ban hammer and pass. ; ) The letter was great! Love the bass riff.

Bmore on May 19, 2012 at 1:09 AM

4Grace, angymike is one of the very good ones. ; )

Bmore on May 19, 2012 at 1:05 AM

Though I’ve had less interaction than you, I’m in total agreement. He’s obviously a loyal chap, too. I notice that he regularly checks in on DHC.

4Grace on May 19, 2012 at 1:10 AM

Good Night Flora, Pleasant Dreams . ; )

Bmore on May 19, 2012 at 1:10 AM

Of more benefit to the public would be a fat-head tax.

socalcon on May 19, 2012 at 1:11 AM

Bmore
I’ll tell ya one thing if this country is stupid enough to reelect Bari your gonna see angry like never before …………;-) good night…..

angrymike on May 19, 2012 at 1:11 AM

4Grace on May 19, 2012 at 1:10 AM

Yep.

Bmore on May 19, 2012 at 1:11 AM

angrymike on May 19, 2012 at 1:11 AM

You won’t be alone friend. : )

Bmore on May 19, 2012 at 1:12 AM

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