Run for the hills: Yet another study informs us of the imminent end of life as we know it

posted at 10:01 am on May 17, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

The end is nigh! Or so our esteemed environmental prophets are telling us… yet again.

Humans will need two Earths to support our lifestyles by 2030 because we are draining the world’s resources so quickly, a new report has warned.

Produced by the World Wildlife Fund, the Zoological Society of London, the Global Footprint Network and the European Space Agency, the 2012 Living Planet Report measures humans’ ecological footprint on the planet.

At the moment, the picture is bleak, according to Jim Leape, Director General of WWF International, with resources being drained 50 per cent faster than they can be replenished.

He said: “We’re all familiar with the stories of what we’re doing to Planet Earth, the ways in which we’re changing the climate, depleting the world’s fisheries, destroying the world’s forests. …

“The report tells us that we’re already using the earth’s resources 50 per cent faster than it can be replenished, and that, if we don’t change our ways, by 2030 we will need two planets to support us.”

Over the decades, doomsayers have predicted that the growing pace of human activity simply isn’t sustainable. Catastrophes ranging from war, famine, and even human extinction are just a few years ’round the corner, they insist, mainly stemming from a crisis in global energy supplies. They imagine that the finite supply of oil on earth and our increasing production means that we’re sucking the planet dry with alarming rapidity.

The greens are especially freaked out these days, as economic growth in the population-dense countries of China and India means more of their citizens are becoming wealthy enough to afford cars and electricity and other modern conveniences (quelle horreur!), adding to worldwide oil demand. Yet, we’ve sailed right past these supposed apocalyptic moments every time, with little fanfare.

The date of the predicted peak has moved over the years. It was once supposed to arrive by Thanksgiving 2005. Then the “unbridgeable supply demand gap” was expected “after 2007.” Then it was to arrive in 2011. Now “there is a significant risk of a peak before 2020.” …

The first was in the 1880s, when production was concentrated in Pennsylvania and it was said that no oil would be found west of the Mississippi. Then oil was found in Texas and Oklahoma. Similar fears emerged after the two world wars. And in the 1970s, it was said that the world was going to fall off the “oil mountain.” But since 1978, world oil output has increased by 30%.

Just in the years 2007 to 2009, for every barrel of oil produced in the world, 1.6 barrels of new reserves were added. And other developments—from more efficient cars and advances in batteries, to shale gas and wind power—have provided reasons for greater confidence in our energy resiliency. Yet the fear of peak oil maintains its powerful grip.

President Obama is partial to this sort of scaremongering rhetoric, too. A couple months back, when he was trotting out the energy-theme from his campaign-distractions wheelhouse, he was fond of iterating sentences along the line of: “After all, oil is a finite resource.  We consume more than 20 percent of the world’s oil, but have less than 2 percent of the world’s oil reserves.” …What the what? Anyone who knows anything about energy knows that this statement assumes proven reserves — but new discoveries and further technological/economic innovations are making more oil available for extraction all the time. Oil resources might be finite, but our proven reserves sure aren’t. For instance, just last week, the GAO announced that the Green River Formation in a few of our Western states is sitting atop oil supplies greater than the rest of the world’s current proven reserves, combined. So much for that “2 percent” nonsense.

And, by the way, what might be this new study suggest as the solution to this ostensible emergency?

Mr Leape stresses that the starting point for reducing our impact on the planet is to end our love affair with fossil fuels – “the energy technology of the 20th century” – and switch to renewable energy.

Mm hmm. Of course, I’m sure that his proposal is a completely dispassionate, not-at- all political exhortation, riiight?

Here’s the real deal: The earth has never been a better place in which to live. Yes, I said it. Worldwide, people live longer, consume more calories, earn more money, bury fewer children, and enjoy more modern conveniences than ever before — even though the world population has more than doubled in less than half a century. And thanks to ever-improving efficiency, innovation, and new technologies, life can continue to get better, and our demand for oil may even flatten out eventually. What’s with all the gloom and doom? If catastrophe really is on it’s way, it’ll be because nobody seems to be able to lock it up and get their fiscal house in order, not because we need a second planet earth.


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There are more trees in the US than there were when Jamestown was settled, thanks to Weyerhaeuser et al.

Some of the world’s most populous places are the wealthiest.

Akzed on May 17, 2012 at 11:04 AM

Ummm, How about we build a ship, and use it to strand them on an asteroid while we go exploring instead?

SWalker on May 17, 2012 at 10:33 AM

A good idea, but they might not go along with that plan. If we convince them we’ve got Star Trek type technology and they can cruise around the galaxy exploring new planets (and banging blue wymmins), then they’ll blast off voluntarily. Chances are they won’t realize they are incapable of returning until it’s too late.

Lost in Jersey on May 17, 2012 at 11:06 AM

If only we had never existed.

Big Orange on May 17, 2012 at 10:21 AM

I Gaia caused us to evolve because she is cold and wants someone to turn up the heat. T-rex and company was a total bust in that regard.

However, I appreciate that there are a lot of people who are very concerned about disaster befalling the planet. I suggest that we load the concerned citizens up and send them off in search of a new planet. One that us evil capitalists will not befoul. They can start fresh like the pilgrims in the New World, free to worship their new planet and live sustainably as they see fit.

Of course they will have to only use sustainable energy and green living to build their ship and its engines.

I predict it will only take 1,000 years or so for them to re-invent modern rocketry starting from windmills and waterwheels.

Lily on May 17, 2012 at 11:08 AM

Amazing isn’t it – how technology coupled with propagandized education has resurrected the old sandwich board with the idiot inside screaming that “the world is ending?”

Don L on May 17, 2012 at 11:10 AM

Libs are hunter gatherers. They hunt for problems they claim government can solve by gathering more taxes.

KW64 on May 17, 2012 at 11:11 AM

Oil resources might be finite, but our proven reserves sure aren’t.

This one sentence is dumb enough to disregard the entire post.

Yoosaion on May 17, 2012 at 11:13 AM

Oil resources might be finite, but our proven reserves sure aren’t.
This one sentence is dumb enough to disregard the entire post.

Yoosaion on May 17, 2012 at 11:13 AM

I suspect he meant our proven reserves are finite but the sky’s the limit on potential production.

KW64 on May 17, 2012 at 11:17 AM

Humans will need two Earths to support our lifestyles by 2030 because we are draining the world’s resources so quickly, a new report has warned.

True to form, the end of the world is just around the corner and when humanity reaches said corner, the end of the world moves to the next.

rukiddingme on May 17, 2012 at 11:17 AM

Ummm, How about we build a ship, and use it to strand them on an asteroid while we go exploring instead?

SWalker on May 17, 2012 at 10:33 AM

A good idea, but they might not go along with that plan. If we convince them we’ve got Star Trek type technology and they can cruise around the galaxy exploring new planets (and banging blue wymmins), then they’ll blast off voluntarily. Chances are they won’t realize they are incapable of returning until it’s too late.

Lost in Jersey on May 17, 2012 at 11:06 AM

Not to worry my friend, you have to be SMART to not go along with that plan, Liberals definitely are not smart. Besides, we’ll just tell them that the asteroid is made out of Unicorn poop, they’ll even pay us to take them there and drop them off…

SWalker on May 17, 2012 at 11:17 AM

Abortions for population control is a poor solution because, even if you ignore the moral concerns entirely, it would require a staggering amount of medical resources in terms of staff and supplies. Our system is already strained.

Also, until the welfare system is dismantled, we’ll be constantly fighting a losing battle because it literally pays more for irresponsible mothers to keep their kids & go on the dole.

MelonCollie on May 17, 2012 at 10:56 AM

I respect you, so don’t take it offensively if I say your first paragraph is silly. I have also said many a silly thing. The resource cost of abortion is small. The total revenue from abortion in the United States by my rough estimates is well under $1,000,000,000 or approximately how much the government spends in two hours.

I strongly agree with moving in the direction of dismantling the welfare state, at least to the extent of not encouraging irresponsible women to have kids. If the amount of welfare spending were Constitutionally mandated to be at most 1% of the federal budget, I think we could live with that–especially if there were an 18% limit on the size of government versus the GDP.

thuja on May 17, 2012 at 11:18 AM

The environmental movement is now even shutting down hydro-electric dams as fast as they can.

Of course this has nothing to do with the environment. It has everything to do with promoting world socialism. It’s a power and money grab. The promoters of these scares are trying to gain control of energy sources, businesses and our lives.

Environmentalists Win Fed Backing to Shut Down 4 Hydro-Electric Power Plants
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/04/26/green-vs-green-environmentalists-win-fed-backing-to-shut-down-hydro-power

Protesters Shut Down World’s Largest Hydro-Electric Dam Project
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2011/10/27/in-brazil-protestors-shut-down-worlds-largest-hydro-dam-project/

The man-made Global Warming SCAM is all about power and money. See what the REAL experts have to say in the videos below:

The Great Global Warming Swindle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ov0WwtPcALE

Global Warming Doomsday Called Off
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3309910462407994295#

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Axion on May 17, 2012 at 11:19 AM

dentarthurdent on May 17, 2012 at 11:02 AM

I’m not surprised that you’d be happy with a right-wing version of mass eugenics, and I agree that such a thing is entirely possible.

A better version of that idea would be to give the ship(s) you were trying to get rid of the coordinates of a black hole. Zero chance of coming back from THAT.

MelonCollie on May 17, 2012 at 11:20 AM

Oil resources might be finite, but our proven reserves sure aren’t.

So A is finite but a subset of A is infinite…

Anyway, the earth produces petroleum and methane. The atmospheres of some planets and moons contain methane, I don’t think dinosaur farts are the source.

Akzed on May 17, 2012 at 11:22 AM

dentarthurdent on May 17, 2012 at 11:02 AM

I’m not surprised that you’d be happy with a right-wing version of mass eugenics, and I agree that such a thing is entirely possible.

A better version of that idea would be to give the ship(s) you were trying to get rid of the coordinates of a black hole. Zero chance of coming back from THAT.

MelonCollie on May 17, 2012 at 11:20 AM

And waste a perfectly good ship like that?

SWalker on May 17, 2012 at 11:23 AM

And waste a perfectly good ship like that?

SWalker on May 17, 2012 at 11:23 AM

What’s one ship when it means getting rid of an entire section of society you don’t like, with absolutely no chance of survivors whatsoever?

MelonCollie on May 17, 2012 at 11:24 AM

Oil resources might be finite, but our proven reserves sure aren’t.

So A is finite but a subset of A is infinite…

Anyway, the earth produces petroleum and methane. The atmospheres of some planets and moons contain methane, I don’t think dinosaur farts are the source.

Akzed on May 17, 2012 at 11:22 AM

Titan has entire Oceans made of Liquid Methane (Yes, the Huygens Titan probe indisputably proved that), where did all that methane come from? That is what you call a genuine Inconvenient Truth.

SWalker on May 17, 2012 at 11:26 AM

What’s one ship when it means getting rid of an entire section of society you don’t like, with absolutely no chance of survivors whatsoever?

MelonCollie on May 17, 2012 at 11:24 AM

Hey, the Ship’s have genuine value, you don’t throw away valuable things.

SWalker on May 17, 2012 at 11:27 AM

MelonCollie on May 17, 2012 at 11:20 AM

I think you missed my point about the Hitchhiker’s Guide story line – humans on earth descended from all those useless people the other planet wanted to get rid of. Democrats/libs provide evidence for that hypothesis on a routine basis. That also connects with my theory that libs/Dems are forcing us at full speed toward the future envisioned in “Idiocracy”.

dentarthurdent on May 17, 2012 at 11:33 AM

Titan has entire Oceans made of Liquid Methane (Yes, the Huygens Titan probe indisputably proved that), where did all that methane come from? That is what you call a genuine Inconvenient Truth.

SWalker on May 17, 2012 at 11:26 AM

Since methane is an evil greenhouse gas – obviously our SUVs caused it to take over that moon…..

dentarthurdent on May 17, 2012 at 11:35 AM

If we convince them we’ve got Star Trek type technology and they can cruise around the galaxy exploring new planets (and banging blue wymmins), then they’ll blast off voluntarily. Chances are they won’t realize they are incapable of returning until it’s too late.

Lost in Jersey on May 17, 2012 at 11:06 AM

This could easily go both ways. There was an old sci-fi book where a libertarian-minded group of space scientists managed to come up with a viable “family-sized colony ship”. Thus the exodus began: thousands of people giving the rigid digit to the society that had raised & shielded their ungrateful keisters, over every imaginable reason…

Only to get out in space and crash into an asteroid, get pulled into a planet’s gravitational field, land on places with acidic atmospheres and melt, fly straight into a black hole, etc. Chances of help: virtually none because there was no organized police force or rescue teams AT ALL.

Meanwhile, the society back home collapsed because the little Einsteins had deprived Earth of so many skilled & educated citizens in the space (haha) of a few decades. Book ended with a world government, formed out of desperation, was frantically trying to put together an interceptor force and track down the hidden ship factories.

MelonCollie on May 17, 2012 at 11:37 AM

I respect you, so don’t take it offensively if I say your first paragraph is silly. I have also said many a silly thing. The resource cost of abortion is small. The total revenue from abortion in the United States by my rough estimates is well under $1,000,000,000 or approximately how much the government spends in two hours.

thuja on May 17, 2012 at 11:18 AM

A total world population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.

Audubon magazine, interview with Ted Turner, 1996

Sounds like it’s going to get pricey. Seriously, while I understand your position that abortion should not be outlawed, if you don’t see it as horrifying, you’ve got to get a serious attitude adjustment.

MadisonConservative on May 17, 2012 at 11:40 AM

SWalker on May 17, 2012 at 11:26 AM

Have you read Sirens of Titan by Vonnegut?

Akzed on May 17, 2012 at 11:41 AM

That also connects with my theory that libs/Dems are forcing us at full speed toward the future envisioned in “Idiocracy”.

dentarthurdent on May 17, 2012 at 11:33 AM

Ridiculously overrated movie. Yes, yes…some people are lazy, some people are lazily ignorant…cute, but it’s become such a common punchline with elitist douchebags(usually liberal or Ronulan) that the movie is pathetically redundant now.

MadisonConservative on May 17, 2012 at 11:45 AM

“A total world population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.” Audubon magazine, interview with Ted Turner, 1996

You’d end up with isolated pockets of savages without trade, without the technology other tribes create, and therefore eventually with no technology. Yeah, Australian aboriginal culture is the ideal for humanity so long as Ted Turner is king. What an utter hose bag.

Akzed on May 17, 2012 at 11:45 AM

I think I remember this environmental armageddon talk in elementary school in the 70′s

uniclone on May 17, 2012 at 10:20 AM

Oh yes, 1970 and I was in 7th grade, Lake Erie was dead and wouldn’t recover for 10,000 years, by 2008 we would all have to wear space suits to go outside into the wasteland as our grandchildren asked “have you ever seen a tree”?

Wallythedog on May 17, 2012 at 11:47 AM

dentarthurdent on May 17, 2012 at 11:33 AM

Relax, MadCon didn’t realize it was a comedy. He thought it was a documentary.

Akzed on May 17, 2012 at 11:47 AM

I’m not surprised that you’d be happy with a right-wing version of mass eugenics, and I agree that such a thing is entirely possible.

A better version of that idea would be to give the ship(s) you were trying to get rid of the coordinates of a black hole. Zero chance of coming back from THAT.

MelonCollie on May 17, 2012 at 11:20 AM

Eugenics, Zero chance of coming back? Obviously you haven’t read the book and don’t get the point. They were not sent off to die. You don’t send off people in ships appointed with the finest hessian wall weave to DIE. They were sent off so they would quit bothering everyone else who was trying to get reasonable things done. They were sent off so they could to their phone sanitizing and their advertizing executive-ing in peace and leave everyone else alone. Which they did. And, according to the book, we are the decendents of those doughty travelers.

The victims of eugenicists have no decendents, that’s the whole point of it.

Lily on May 17, 2012 at 11:50 AM

SWalker on May 17, 2012 at 11:26 AM

Have you read Sirens of Titan by Vonnegut?

Akzed on May 17, 2012 at 11:41 AM

Meh, I never cared for Vonnegut…

SWalker on May 17, 2012 at 11:50 AM

We are all just specimens in a petri dish.

Unless we can figure out a way to travel faster than light (FTL),
humans won’t be traveling to distant planets. Instead, our genetic source code will be stored in machines, to be re-assembled and manufactured upon arrival.

MichaelGabriel on May 17, 2012 at 11:50 AM

“….if we don’t change our ways, by 2030 we will need two planets to support us.”

CAPITALISM….HO!!!!

We now have the PERFECT excuse to invest heavily in space exploration so that we can find other planets to harvest. Seek out new life and new civilizations…to harvest.

We are the UFO monsters that we have been waiting for!
Take up the mantle of human achievement!

connertown on May 17, 2012 at 11:51 AM

Relax, MadCon didn’t realize it was a comedy. He thought it was a documentary.

Akzed on May 17, 2012 at 11:47 AM

He wasn’t responding to me in that post.

MadisonConservative on May 17, 2012 at 11:51 AM

“….if we don’t change our ways, by 2030 we will need two planets to support us.”

CAPITALISM….HO!!!!

We now have the PERFECT excuse to invest heavily in space exploration so that we can find other planets to harvest. Seek out new life and new civilizations…to harvest.

We are the UFO monsters that we have been waiting for!
Take up the mantle of human achievement!

connertown on May 17, 2012 at 11:51 AM

Hmmm, can we leave the anal probing part of being the Alien Monsters out? Cause I’m good with the rest of it…

SWalker on May 17, 2012 at 11:54 AM

They were sent off so they could to their phone sanitizing and their advertizing executive-ing in peace and leave everyone else alone. Which they did. And, according to the book, we are the decendents of those doughty travelers.

Lily on May 17, 2012 at 11:50 AM

As an avid HHGttG fan, I must point out that you’re omitting an extremely relevant detail in the story.

Those superior people who got rid of all the “chattel”? Wiped out by a disease contracted from an unexpectedly dirty telephone. Too bad they sent off all the telephone sanitizers. Adams’ underlying point was that while some segments of the workforce are mercilessly mocked, they are nonetheless vital to civilized society. Forsake them at your peril.

Again, this elitist attitude about the “masses” is nothing more than a latent psychopathic wish that you didn’t have to share the planet with so many people, so that you could have more resources to yourself. It’s f**king disturbing, and is significantly more frightening than global warming fearmongering. Why? Because we’ve seen the widespread damage that pro-eugenics mindsets can wreak. If it comes back, with our technological advances…the body count could blow our minds.

MadisonConservative on May 17, 2012 at 11:56 AM

I’m thinking of a new company to build space arks. The IPO ought to pull in enough for me to buy some cheap vacated California beach property.

Don L on May 17, 2012 at 11:57 AM

The 1970′s all over again..

One disaster apocalypse movie after another.. the books Population bomb.. the coming Ice Age.. Nuclear War and planetary extinction.. rats taking over.. then all the great apes.. you name it..

some freak of nature wrote about it.

I hated the 70′s.

Between the enviro nutjobs.. the survivalist cranks.. the left wing peaceniks begging/demanding we surrender to the Soviets to spare sweet mother Gia from nuclear war.

They all faded away during the Reagan years.. now that times suck again because of the worlds monsters running amuck.. and another brain dead left wing democrat in the White House.. the end of the world sells again.

Avatar is the liberal mindset.. all the planet is at peace with itself.. till we evil humans arrive to muck it up.. and of course the bad guys are modeled perfectly after the US military.

We need another Red Dawn to shake up the defeatist gloom sayers..

Some enterprising young genius builds his own faster than light drive.. and we colonize the outer planets moons for resources.. and let all the disgruntled whiners who think man is the problem.. build their own ships and go bye bye.. only to find out.. colonizing a wilderness planet is HARD WORK.. and they can afford to support a welfare class when it’s everybody works or nobody eats..

Ten years of reality checking leads them to reconcile with Earth.. since maybe they were right after all.. and liberal thinking isn’t much of a survival aid.

mark81150 on May 17, 2012 at 11:58 AM

Produced by the World Wildlife Fund, the Zoological Society of London, the Global Footprint Network and the European Space Agency

Nuff said.

IrishEyes on May 17, 2012 at 11:58 AM

Is Erika Johnson really still blogging here after that despicable “Farewell, Newt” post in April? Has Hot Air no shame?

joe_doufu on May 17, 2012 at 12:02 PM

mark81150 on May 17, 2012 at 11:58 AM

I agree, but you forgot one of the worst parts of the 70s: Disco.

H.E. Pennypacker on May 17, 2012 at 12:02 PM

Yes, the end is nigh – there is simply no hope, so, I think that all liberals should commit suicide, and SOON – it’s the best thing for everyone – it’s just the right thing to do.

Pork-Chop on May 17, 2012 at 12:02 PM

joe_doufu on May 17, 2012 at 12:02 PM

Says the guy who considered Newt Gingrich the “last conservative in the race”. LOL. Move along, troll.

MadisonConservative on May 17, 2012 at 12:04 PM

Ten years of reality checking leads them to reconcile with Earth.. since maybe they were right after all.. and liberal thinking isn’t much of a survival aid.

mark81150 on May 17, 2012 at 11:58 AM

ROTFLMAO… Oh please stop… you are killing me…. Ten years after we drop them off, they will have either been all eaten by the local fauna, or eaten themselves…

SWalker on May 17, 2012 at 12:06 PM

Give a man a fish feed him for a day, teach a man to farm fish feed him and his neighbors decades.

Dr Evil on May 17, 2012 at 10:13 AM

Nice going Dr Evil. Now all those trout I chase are going to have to buy mandated Obamacare plans too…groan.

Maybe we could save the planet by reducing trout populations? What kind of free government contraceptives do trout use?

Don L on May 17, 2012 at 12:07 PM

the Science that called Wolf!

BL@KBIRD on May 17, 2012 at 12:08 PM

Give a man a fish feed him for a day, teach a man to farm fish feed him and his neighbors decades.

Dr Evil on May 17, 2012 at 10:13 AM

Nice going Dr Evil. Now all those trout I chase are going to have to buy mandated Obamacare plans too…groan.

Maybe we could save the planet by reducing trout populations? What kind of free government contraceptives do trout use?

Don L on May 17, 2012 at 12:07 PM

Well, where I live they come in a wide variety of flavors… Skunk cheese, flies, and worms seem to be the most popular…

SWalker on May 17, 2012 at 12:09 PM

Run for the hills: Yet another study informs us of the imminent end of life as we know it
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posted at 10:01 am on May 17, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

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Bottom line:

“Americans must drastically cut back on their industry, commerce, and standard of living IF we are to save the earth as we know it from total environmental destruction.”

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This message brought to you by Maurice Strong, and Agenda 21.

’nuff said.

listens2glenn on May 17, 2012 at 12:11 PM

Yup ignore the massive decreases in bio-divesity. Ignore the shrinking fresh water supply. Ignore the massive declines in forestry around the world. Ignore the growing cancer rates linked to chemicals used to manufacture our food. Ignore the wars being waged in Central Africa to fuel our monstrous need for precious minerals and diamonds. Ignore it all!

libfreeordie on May 17, 2012 at 10:06 AM

Livestupidanddie seems to have gone off to live the cave man life.
He/she truly loves his/her mother Gaia.
I’m sure now that livestupidanddie understands that the Earth is going to die here soon, he/she has thrown away their computer, shucked all of their worldly possessions, & gone off to live in the wilderness.
Thank you for your sacrifice enviro-troll.
We’re right behind you.

Badger40 on May 17, 2012 at 12:11 PM

Again, this elitist attitude about the “masses” is nothing more than a latent psychopathic wish that you didn’t have to share the planet with so many people, so that you could have more resources to yourself. It’s f**king disturbing, and is significantly more frightening than global warming fearmongering. Why? Because we’ve seen the widespread damage that pro-eugenics mindsets can wreak. If it comes back, with our technological advances…the body count could blow our minds.

MadisonConservative on May 17, 2012 at 11:56 AM

That is a scarey premise.. and one that keeps coming up in the enviromenatists fear mongering. Too many people..

Too many people should be the most frightening three words any one can utter. All it takes is enough money and technology and as you said.. we can imagine the body count.. their fringe already supports China’s forced abortion polices.. what next?

The minute you accept the idea there are too many humans walking around.. the leap to reducing that number by immoral means isn’t great. Because people will refuse to not have children.. they just will. The only way man can touch the future is by having children.. the only way we can get around mortality.. if we can’t live to see the next millennia.. our progeny carrying our genes can.. the only kind of immortality the common man can achieve.

Couple that with research into stopping the aging process..

and you have a possible self chosen elite class which sees common humans as a burden on their own objectives..

We can’t allow eugenics thinking to gain acceptance or the future you fear could be very real.

mark81150 on May 17, 2012 at 12:12 PM

“He who defies Great Spirit Gitchi Manitou’ will see the earth torn asunder and destroyed” –an old Cherokee prophecy by Elizabeth Warren.

MaiDee on May 17, 2012 at 12:15 PM

SWalker on May 17, 2012 at 12:06 PM

probably.. but it’s fiction.. liberals would never agree to go.. menial labor is what they pay their underlings for.. and the poor liberals just want a check..

mark81150 on May 17, 2012 at 12:15 PM

Scientific studies prove that the frequency of dire “Global Crisis” reporting is directly proportional to cash required from YOU, and YOUR Tax Dollars, by the suspect reporting entities.

BigSven on May 17, 2012 at 12:16 PM

At the moment, the picture is bleak, according to Jim Leape, Director General of WWF International, with resources being drained 50 per cent faster than they can be replenished.

Steroids make you stupid.

moo on May 17, 2012 at 12:19 PM

SWalker on May 17, 2012 at 12:06 PM

probably.. but it’s fiction.. liberals would never agree to go.. menial labor is what they pay their underlings for.. and the poor liberals just want a check..

mark81150 on May 17, 2012 at 12:15 PM

No worries, we’ll just tell them that the planet is covered with money tree’s, all they have to do is walk out their front door and pick the free money right off the money tree’s…

SWalker on May 17, 2012 at 12:19 PM

SWalker on May 17, 2012 at 12:06 PM

probably.. but it’s fiction.. liberals would never agree to go.. menial labor is what they pay their underlings for.. and the poor liberals just want a check..

mark81150 on May 17, 2012 at 12:15 PM

No worries, we’ll just tell them that the planet is covered with money tree’s, all they have to do is walk out their front door and pick the free money right off the money tree’s…

SWalker on May 17, 2012 at 12:19 PM

Oh, and we’ll also tell them that the money tree’s always grow right next to the iPhone/iPad tree’s…

SWalker on May 17, 2012 at 12:21 PM

libfreeordie,

Remember it’s down the lane and not across the road.

Make it count!

jukin3 on May 17, 2012 at 12:21 PM

The minute you accept the idea there are too many humans walking around.. the leap to reducing that number by immoral means isn’t great.

mark81150 on May 17, 2012 at 12:12 PM

BINGO, and the majority of rabid environmentalists have already made that leap, as have far too many self-described “intellectuals” who revere science(read: climate science) as gospel, and assume those who challenge technocratic dogma are uneducated plebians. News flash, you narcissistic f**ktards: our skepticism is a hedge against a resurrection of global eugenic groupthink. Your snide dismissals and claims of intellectual affirmation bring that resurrection ever nearer.

MadisonConservative on May 17, 2012 at 12:26 PM

Well, OK. I hate being really cold or really hot or really hungry, and since we’re all going to be extinct anyway, I vote for going extinct in comfort.

Portia46 on May 17, 2012 at 12:29 PM

“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed — and hence clamorous to be led to safety — by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.” – H. L. Mencken
“The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false face for the urge to rule it.” –H. L. Mencken

anotherJoe on May 17, 2012 at 12:38 PM

Guess AGW on its own doesn’t cut it anymore, so the greens have to provide more hysteria.

Christian Conservative on May 17, 2012 at 12:40 PM

The World Wildlife Fund has TV ads to get money to save tigers. Then they use that money to foster leftist utopia causes.

Christian Conservative on May 17, 2012 at 12:42 PM

Ref: Within the Huffington Post story: the “Jim Leape Living Plantary Report”: video clip

This ‘video clip’ is classic douchebaggery …

Not often do we see so much douchebaggery crammed into a 1:17 min “crisis clip”….Great job eco-scammers !! :D

BigSven on May 17, 2012 at 12:45 PM

Everytime I bump into one of these Enviro doomsday nuts, I tell them, with a big smile on my face, resource depletion is not a problem for me as I have guns.
Worst case event I can take what I need from others or make them work to make/grow what I need.
They quickly leave me alone.

LincolntheHun on May 17, 2012 at 12:48 PM

Yup ignore the massive decreases in bio-divesity. Ignore the shrinking fresh water supply. Ignore the massive declines in forestry around the world. Ignore the growing cancer rates linked to chemicals used to manufacture our food. Ignore the wars being waged in Central Africa to fuel our monstrous need for precious minerals and diamonds. Ignore it all!

libfreeordie on May 17, 2012 at 10:06 AM

That sounds like a plan!!

Especially since what you wrote is a lie…from start to finish.

Solaratov on May 17, 2012 at 12:51 PM

libfreeordie on May 17, 2012 at 10:06 AM

Behold a product of the golden age of makin’ s*** up.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on May 17, 2012 at 1:04 PM

MadisonConservative on May 17, 2012 at 11:45 AM

I have to say you’re sounding a bit elitest yourself.
I don’t know about overrated as the movie was never rated very highly anyway – but I think it’s fairly funny in a very crude and stupid way, and points quite well at the direction liberal policies are likely to take us.

dentarthurdent on May 17, 2012 at 1:05 PM

Solaratov on May 17, 2012 at 12:51 PM

Would you believe??: libfreeordie on May 17, 2012 at 10:06 AM

…if before each of “Libs” lies he precedes with:

–Scientific studies show..(LIE)
–government reports say.. (LIE)
–World Wildlife scientists report that..(LIE)
–White Lab-coated University Eco-PhD’s swear that..(LIE)

Would YOU believe him then ? Hhahahaha
Sorry Lefties…YOUR SCAM IS OVER !!!

BigSven on May 17, 2012 at 1:09 PM

I agree, but you forgot one of the worst parts of the 70s: Disco.

H.E. Pennypacker on May 17, 2012 at 12:02 PM

Donna Summers died at age 63 today.

upinak on May 17, 2012 at 1:17 PM

…if before each of “Libs” lies he precedes with:

–Scientific studies show..(LIE)
–government reports say.. (LIE)

You are inspiring. It’s about time someone stood up to those idiotic scientists and government types. Joe the Plumber is all the science I need in my life.

bayam on May 17, 2012 at 1:18 PM

Well, OK. I hate being really cold or really hot or really hungry, and since we’re all going to be extinct anyway, I vote for going extinct in comfort.

Portia46 on May 17, 2012 at 12:29 PM

Exactly.

I’m going to to spend the next 20 years fretting about the other 7 billion people on the planet getting their act together?
Yea, right.

Live it up. Enjoy the ride.

MichaelGabriel on May 17, 2012 at 1:20 PM

Humans will need two Earths to support our lifestyles by 2030 because we are draining the world’s resources so quickly, a new report has warned.

And yet… instead of exploring new sources of energy and resources on other planets, NASA is busy trying to make Muslims feel better about themselves.

crazy_legs on May 17, 2012 at 1:20 PM

You are inspiring. It’s about time someone stood up to those idiotic scientists and government types. Joe the Plumber is all the science I need in my life.

bayam on May 17, 2012 at 1:18 PM

Panicmongers to the left of me, denialist ostriches to the right…

Small wonder that REAL science isn’t making much progress these days.

MelonCollie on May 17, 2012 at 1:21 PM

Because we’ve seen the widespread damage that pro-eugenics mindsets can wreak. If it comes back, with our technological advances…the body count could blow our minds.

MadisonConservative on May 17, 2012 at 11:56 AM

IF it comes back? Why do you presume it ever left? Follow me here.

We have aborted roughly 50 MILLION children in this country alone.

Approximately 40% of them were black children (and the black women those abortions were performed on are roughly 6% of the population).

There are about 40 million black people in this country.

Which means we have murdered about 20 million black children in a country that only has 40 million total black people.

Eugenics would be the nicest term to attach to this massacre. And given that the founder of planned parenthood had this exact outcome in mind when she founded it, I think it’s safe to say she got her wish.

If we had done this to the black population in any other country on the planet, this would rightly be called a genocide.

IF it comes back??? Eugenics is alive and well in modern America sir.

runawayyyy on May 17, 2012 at 1:21 PM

You are inspiring. It’s about time someone stood up to those idiotic scientists and government types. Joe the Plumber is all the science I need in my life.

bayam on May 17, 2012 at 1:18 PM

You prove every day right here, on your own, that you understand very little.

So stfu and let the adults talk, you pathetic wannabe stalinist.

tom daschle concerned on May 17, 2012 at 1:24 PM

upinak on May 17, 2012 at 1:17 PM

Saw that right after I posted. She works hard for the money no longer. RIP.

H.E. Pennypacker on May 17, 2012 at 1:26 PM

This is an obviously irrelevant study because the world is going to end well before 2030 if AlGore is to be believed. He said, in 2006, that we only had 10 years left.

Oldnuke on May 17, 2012 at 1:33 PM

I have to say you’re sounding a bit elitest yourself.

dentarthurdent on May 17, 2012 at 1:05 PM

Oh, okay. Now if you question the elitist belief that the vast majority of people are stupid and worthless plebian scum…it actually makes YOU the elitist! Topsy-turvy world, folks!

MadisonConservative on May 17, 2012 at 1:39 PM

Panicmongers to the left of me, denialist ostriches to the right…

Small wonder that REAL science isn’t making much progress these days.

MelonCollie on May 17, 2012 at 1:21 PM

It’s making incredible, unprecedented progress as big data and related computing technology converge across all scientific discipliences. But you wouldn’t know that from reading this blog.

bayam on May 17, 2012 at 1:40 PM

It’s making incredible, unprecedented progress as big data and related computing technology converge across all scientific discipliences. But you wouldn’t know that from reading this blog.

bayam on May 17, 2012 at 1:40 PM

technology (for your phone) is not the same as a hard core science.. such as chemistry.

Keep trying.

upinak on May 17, 2012 at 1:44 PM

It’s making incredible, unprecedented progress as big data and related computing technology converge across all scientific discipliences. But you wouldn’t know that from reading this blog.

bayam on May 17, 2012 at 1:40 PM

Hide the decline, brother!

MadisonConservative on May 17, 2012 at 1:45 PM

MadisonConservative on May 17, 2012 at 11:56 AM

No offense, but I was SHOCKED to find you claim to be an avid HHGttG fan seeing as you seemed to be very high strung and humor impaired.

I didn’t bring up the HHGttG story line, however, it seemed to me that it wasn’t mentioned in a eugenic sort of way but as a humorous way to say, “Hey, you don’t like how humans have evolved to be masters of the planet here, find your own planet and do what you want there. In fact, we will build you a ship tastefully decorated with the hessian wall weave you love, and wish you God-Speed.”

Lily on May 17, 2012 at 1:48 PM

That’s silly. Everyone knows the world is going to end in 2012. The Mayans said so.

bitsy on May 17, 2012 at 1:50 PM

Oh, okay. Now if you question the elitist belief that the vast majority of people are stupid and worthless plebian scum…it actually makes YOU the elitist! Topsy-turvy world, folks!

MadisonConservative on May 17, 2012 at 1:39 PM

Pay attention to what’s happening around you. How many people now prefer to live on gov handouts? How many people buy into the lib/Dem race-baiting? How many people believe the AGW fraud? How many people continue to vote Dem, believing the lies they’re told? And which side of this equation is reproducing the most? And you think we don’t have a problem?

dentarthurdent on May 17, 2012 at 1:57 PM

Yup ignore … bio-divesity… fresh water supply. …forestry around the world….cancer rates …chemicals…food. …precious minerals and diamonds. Ignore it all!
 
libfreeordie on May 17, 2012 at 10:06 AM

 
Did this concern stem from environmental engineers, farmers, etc., or from advocacy groups with conspicuous coffee mugs and bumper stickers and constant mailings for perpetual donations?
 

Obama 2012!!!/

rogerb on May 17, 2012 at 2:03 PM

No offense, but I was SHOCKED to find you claim to be an avid HHGttG fan seeing as you seemed to be very high strung and humor impaired.

Lily on May 17, 2012 at 1:48 PM

No offense, but you don’t really read anything I write if you consider me to be humor impaired.

MadisonConservative on May 17, 2012 at 2:07 PM

dentarthurdent on May 17, 2012 at 1:57 PM

If we’re as bad as Idiocracy and the elitist anti-majority views claim, then our species is already doomed, so why worry?

MadisonConservative on May 17, 2012 at 2:08 PM

Some enterprising young genius builds his own faster than light drive.. and we colonize the outer planets moons for resources.. and let all the disgruntled whiners who think man is the problem.. build their own ships and go bye bye.. only to find out.. colonizing a wilderness planet is HARD WORK.. and they can afford to support a welfare class when it’s everybody works or nobody eats..

Ten years of reality checking leads them to reconcile with Earth.. since maybe they were right after all.. and liberal thinking isn’t much of a survival aid.

mark81150 on May 17, 2012 at 11:58 AM

Moon is a Harsh Mistress.

Liberals/criminals never survived in that book, because if they got too meddlesome, they had an “accident” with their suits or some other strange difficulty which turned them into useful fertilizer. No Welfare, because there are too many jobs that need to be done, even standing watch, to have someone just lie about sucking up heat, light, power, atmo, etc. Just as in a frontier world, you have to justify yourself to survive.

The USA is one of the few places where we support millions on Welfare, yet hire illegals to pick tomatoes and fix our roofs and the idea of forcing Welfare takers to earn their keep or to use forced birth control is either a violation of their “civil rights” or hateful “Eugenics”.

We are literally so rich we have the “luxury” of tolerating liberals.

Bulletchaser on May 17, 2012 at 2:28 PM

If we’re as bad as Idiocracy and the elitist anti-majority views claim, then our species is already doomed, so why worry?

MadisonConservative on May 17, 2012 at 2:08 PM

If you would read what I actually say, you would understand that I said “lib/Dem policies are taking us in that direction”. I never said we’re there a;ready – but we sure are heading that way. Read the news any day and look at the PC crap going on all the time. It’s pretty easy to see the evidence.

dentarthurdent on May 17, 2012 at 2:29 PM

I didn’t bring up the HHGttG story line, however, it seemed to me that it wasn’t mentioned in a eugenic sort of way but as a humorous way to say, “Hey, you don’t like how humans have evolved to be masters of the planet here, find your own planet and do what you want there. In fact, we will build you a ship tastefully decorated with the hessian wall weave you love, and wish you God-Speed.”

Lily on May 17, 2012 at 1:48 PM

I did bring up the HHGttG story line – and I agree with you that MadCon seems to be lacking in the sense of humor department and how I’m trying to use it. There’s a reason I picked the screen name I have.

dentarthurdent on May 17, 2012 at 2:35 PM

They need to quit smokin dope before getting into their group brainstorming sessions on how to seel their BS to the werld.

2 earths?

44Magnum on May 17, 2012 at 2:37 PM

seel=sell

44Magnum on May 17, 2012 at 2:37 PM

I did bring up the HHGttG story line – and I agree with you that MadCon seems to be lacking in the sense of humor department and how I’m trying to use it. There’s a reason I picked the screen name I have.

dentarthurdent on May 17, 2012 at 2:35 PM

This is awesome progression. From “If you don’t like Idiocracy and its elitist outlook, then you are an elitist” to “If I cite a HHGttG plot point to back up my argument, I’m being humorous…but if you cite a directly related plot point to back up your argument, you’re lacking in the sense of humor department”.

You seem to be taking your cues from the Jon Stewart playbook “Clown Nose On, Clown Nose Off – The Art of Using Humor and Acting Pissy When Your Opponent Does The Same”. And wow…you picked a screen name based on a character/line from a sci-fi humor story. I used to use the pseudonym Zaphod Beeblebrox and list Megadodo Publications as my business name. Do I get a free Pangalactic Gargle Blaster and bonus chuckles in the National Registry of Side-splitting Fellows for that?

I criticized a movie you liked and I didn’t, and you turned it into a reflection on me. Very droll. The fact of the matter is its premise was pedantic and could well be applied by conservatives, liberals, libertarians, and pretty much anyone who considers themselves to be more “enlightened” or “aware” than the rest of the people around them. Such an outlook doesn’t impress anyone of substance. You’re talking to someone who walked around Madison, Wisconsin for years openly carrying a firearm. You don’t need to tear down anyone who isn’t wowed by yet another Mike Judge cult film.

MadisonConservative on May 17, 2012 at 3:02 PM

Hmmm, can we leave the anal probing part of being the Alien Monsters out? Cause I’m good with the rest of it…

SWalker on May 17, 2012 at 11:54 AM

Do aliens have anuses?

Squiggy on May 17, 2012 at 3:10 PM

Small wonder that REAL science isn’t making much progress these days.

MelonCollie on May 17, 2012 at 1:21 PM

I previously decided to only get my science from people named after fruit and dumb animals.

Hard to believe how little science I can get now. What is wrong with you people?

Squiggy on May 17, 2012 at 3:14 PM

I previously decided to only get my science from people named after fruit and dumb animals.

Hard to believe how little science I can get now. What is wrong with you people?

Squiggy on May 17, 2012 at 3:14 PM

What a coincidence! I previously only regarded scientific criticism from 8th-grade dropouts whose family trees didn’t fork. What ever shall I do now?

MelonCollie on May 17, 2012 at 3:18 PM

We are were literally so rich we have thought we had the “luxury” of tolerating liberals.

Bulletchaser on May 17, 2012 at 2:28 PM

FIFY.

Squiggy on May 17, 2012 at 3:34 PM

What a coincidence! I previously only regarded scientific criticism from 8th-grade dropouts whose family trees didn’t fork. What ever shall I do now?

MelonCollie on May 17, 2012 at 3:18 PM

Eighth grade dropout? Assume a lot of things, don’t you? Did you pull that one from the same orifice you guys pull your “theories”?

Assuming (instead of researching)is the leftist way of life.

Squiggy on May 17, 2012 at 3:43 PM

I criticized a movie you liked and I didn’t, and you turned it into a reflection on me. Very droll. The fact of the matter is its premise was pedantic and could well be applied by conservatives, liberals, libertarians, and pretty much anyone who considers themselves to be more “enlightened” or “aware” than the rest of the people around them. Such an outlook doesn’t impress anyone of substance. You’re talking to someone who walked around Madison, Wisconsin for years openly carrying a firearm. You don’t need to tear down anyone who isn’t wowed by yet another Mike Judge cult film.

MadisonConservative on May 17, 2012 at 3:02 PM

No – you used my reference to a cheap movie to make an invalid and judgemental attack on me personally, and you’re own wording came of as elitest and snobbish. Here it is again if you forgot what you said:

Ridiculously overrated movie. Yes, yes…some people are lazy, some people are lazily ignorant…cute, but it’s become such a common punchline with elitist douchebags(usually liberal or Ronulan) that the movie is pathetically redundant now.

MadisonConservative on May 17, 2012 at 11:45 AM

If you’re going to act like a lib and attack people personally you might at least try not sounding so elitest yourself. You don’t have a clue about me or my background, so maybe you shouldn’t make such big assumptions either just to make yourself feel more elite.

dentarthurdent on May 17, 2012 at 3:47 PM

If you’re going to act like a lib and attack people personally you might at least try not sounding so elitest yourself. You don’t have a clue about me or my background, so maybe you shouldn’t make such big assumptions either just to make yourself feel more elite.

dentarthurdent on May 17, 2012 at 3:47 PM

Attack people personally? Where in the quoted portion were you directly referred to? I referred to an extremely negative and elitist attitude held by elitist douchebags. If you consider yourself an elitist douchebag, then pal, you’re the one with the problem, not me. So far, you’re the one engaging in personal attacks.

MadisonConservative on May 17, 2012 at 3:54 PM

Hmmm, can we leave the anal probing part of being the Alien Monsters out? Cause I’m good with the rest of it…

SWalker on May 17, 2012 at 11:54 AM

Do aliens have anuses?

Squiggy on May 17, 2012 at 3:10 PM

I don’t know, but according to all the UFO literature they do seem to enjoy probing them…

SWalker on May 17, 2012 at 3:59 PM

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