New Wisconsin poll: Walker by six among likely voters, Romney tied with Obama at 46

posted at 4:01 pm on May 16, 2012 by Allahpundit

The last Marquette poll, which had Walker leading Barrett by one thin point, made me want to drink whiskey in the daytime. This one makes me want to drink champagne. Yesterday’s dKos/PPP poll had nearly identical numbers so it’s safe to say this really is the state of the race in Wisconsin at this moment.

I can’t believe I’m asking this, but are we headed for a Scott Walker landslide?

Republicans are more likely to say they are “absolutely certain” to vote on June 5, at 91 percent, than are Democrats and independents, both at 83 percent. In other areas of participation, Republicans also have an advantage. Sixty-two percent of Republicans say that they have tried to persuade someone to vote for or against a candidate, compared to 54 percent among Democrats and 48 percent among independents…

Another indication of Republican mobilization is a shift in the balance of Republican and Democratic partisanship over the past several months among all registered voters. In January there were two percentage points more Democrats than Republicans in the poll. That rose to eight points in February but has since declined to six points in March, three points in April and now just one point in May. When independents are asked if they feel closer to a party, the balance tips to a one-point Republican advantage in the May data. Such changes might be due to random variation from sample to sample, as the month-to-month changes are not large. However, polling by the Democratic polling firm, Public Policy Polling, finds a similar trend…

Collective bargaining continues to divide the electorate by single digits. Voters prefer to keep the current collective bargaining law rather than return to what it was prior to last year, by a 50-43 percentage point margin. Restoring collective bargaining is supported by 78 percent of Democrats and opposed by 81 percent of Republicans. Among independents, 53 percent want to keep the current law while 38 percent want to return to the previous law.

Last month Walker’s approval rating was 47/51. This month it’s 50/46. Some of that’s due to the good news on jobs in his first year in office and some of it’s surely due to Walker tapping his enormous war chest for the recall effort. But judging from that amazing split among indies on the collective bargaining law, Walker’s message that it’s been a net plus for the state has apparently penetrated. Back when the Madison protests were raging, I think big labor’s dream was to turn the Walker recall election into a referendum on public-employee unions. Then they got some unwelcome facts about the new law and clammed up about it, but it looks like they’re getting their referendum anyway. Hope they enjoy the results.

I don’t know what to make of that trend towards the GOP among the Wisconsin electorate generally, though. Two possibilities. One: Could be that the uptick in Republican identification is being driven partly by the presidential primaries that began in January and rolled on until April. Some of the anti-Obama rhetoric from Romney, Santorum, Gingrich et al. may have nudged fencesitters into the Republican column while O’s sat mostly silent on the sidelines. Two: Note that Democratic identification surged in February, shortly after Democrats announced they had the signatures needed to force a recall election. Maybe that woke up tepid Republicans and fencesitters to the possibility that Walker really might be removed and that labor would treat that as an epochal victory proving the righteousness of PEUs, resulting in a sustained pro-GOP backlash. Or, maybe this is all just the product of standard political forces at work. Walker’s spent a bunch of money to make his case and the national economy under The One continues to reek, so undecideds are reacting predictably. No wonder the DNC has apparently thrown in the towel.

All Romney needs to do now is figure out how to keep that GOP enthusiasm going and he can force O to spend a bunch of money on a state the Democrats never expected they’d need to protect. Speaking of which, Mitt’s favorable rating is now up to 40/44 from 33/46 in April, which was to be expected as hard feelings among Santorum and Gingrich fans after the bitter GOP primary start to soften. Obama will spend the next six months trying to knock it back down again. Quick, media — more stories about bullying that happened 50 years ago, stat.


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Must be the Catholic vote coming into play.

oldroy on May 16, 2012 at 4:04 PM

All your base are belong to us.

Emperor Norton on May 16, 2012 at 4:04 PM

All Romney needs to do now is figure out how to keep that GOP enthusiasm going

Tell them “If Obama gets re-elected, he’ll try to bring back public employee collective bargaining by fiat thanks to the the National Labor Relations Board.”

teke184 on May 16, 2012 at 4:04 PM

All Romney needs to do now is figure out how to keep that GOP enthusiasm going

Yeah, picking Portman as his VP will really do it /sarc

Norwegian on May 16, 2012 at 4:06 PM

It’s fun to read the increasingly depressed commenters on the DKos threads.

aunursa on May 16, 2012 at 4:06 PM

I can’t wait to see Special Ed’s head explode June 5th. I will be spending the evening is Lower Slob-ovia (MessNBC).

Marcus on May 16, 2012 at 4:06 PM

Democrats need to burn more lawn signs….yeah, that’s the ticket…

PatriotRider on May 16, 2012 at 4:06 PM

I can’t believe I’m asking this, but are we headed for a Scott Walker landslide?

Only if all of us get out to vote.

Steve Eggleston on May 16, 2012 at 4:08 PM

All Romney needs to do now is figure out how to keep that GOP enthusiasm going and he can force O to spend a bunch of money on a state the Democrats never expected they’d need to protect.

Well he’s got the Obama card which he can play every single minute of every day til November 6. I suppose he could also pick Paul Ryan as his VP, but I honestly don’t think he’ll make a difference in the polls.

Truthfully, Romney just needs to keep doing what he’s doing. He’s been a far better general election candidate than a primary one.

Doughboy on May 16, 2012 at 4:09 PM

Man, I wish GrowFins was back. Remember how crazy she went when the PEU reforms passed?

Good Solid B-Plus on May 16, 2012 at 4:09 PM

I give the MSM a couple of more months before they realize that VA, NC, and MO aren’t the battle grounds… it’s PA, WI, CO, NM, and.. gasp! MN.

Narrow path to victory my left nut.

Red Cloud on May 16, 2012 at 4:09 PM

But judging from that amazing split among indies on the collective bargaining law, Walker’s message that it’s been a net plus for the state has apparently penetrated

good for Scott Walker. If he’s getting results, then the message is getting out and hopefully this recall shenanigans will help him further his mandate in Wisconsin if he wins big.

ted c on May 16, 2012 at 4:10 PM

Walker’s great new ad.

Don’t get complacent now, folks. It ain’t over till it’s over.

You can donate here.

amerpundit on May 16, 2012 at 4:10 PM

If I had to guess, I would say that Romney is doing well in WI because the the general citizenry has woken up and is fired up by the recall election. I consider the recall to be, at least symbolically, a pre-referendum on O’s administration, considering how well the Walker reforms are doing, a barometer on how much enthusiasm there is to stand up against O or just to stand by and let him slide into a second term.

Scopper on May 16, 2012 at 4:11 PM

PPP is BS. They just polled NC with a 48 dem 34 gop split. That’s all you need to know.

rik on May 16, 2012 at 4:12 PM

I can’t believe I’m asking this, but are we headed for a Scott Walker landslide?

What happened to the Eeyore we all know?

matthew26 on May 16, 2012 at 4:12 PM

OMG, WI in play? Say it ain’t so

gatorboy on May 16, 2012 at 4:13 PM

Heh

Humpbot on standby

cmsinaz on May 16, 2012 at 4:13 PM

Allah,

From ground zero, I think you’re right that it has been a wakeup call but more importantly, over the last few months, continued news of how well his reforms are actually working despite all the yelling from the left is really making people notice. In addition, Walker ads have been coming out fast and furius since the primary and they’re good.

All Wisconsinites have to do is look at IL to realize our fate if Walker loses.

WisRich on May 16, 2012 at 4:13 PM

Gimini-Crickets!

If a Wisnconsite wants to see what the alternative model looks like, they can peer across the border at Illinois or see the national news in California and they will see chaos.

Scott Walker in a landslide is a definite possibility.

Deafdog on May 16, 2012 at 4:14 PM

The One continues to reek, so undecideds are reacting predictably. No wonder the DNC has apparently thrown in the towel.

wasn’t all of the effort from the left coming from the unions? Did they learn their lesson from the Blanche Lincoln $10million debacle in Arkansas and learn to read the writing on the wall a few million dollars earlier than they have in the past?

Scott Walker will emerge from this emboldened and stronger. Unions won’t.

Aw

ted c on May 16, 2012 at 4:14 PM

I can’t believe I’m asking this, but are we headed for a Scott Walker landslide?

I’m dittoing cmsinaz. This would be humpbots worthy, IMO.

ted c on May 16, 2012 at 4:15 PM

I love how Walker has co-opted the “Forward” slogan in his ads. Not only from Obama but also from Feingold who used that for his campaign in 2010.

That’s rich right there. Walker’s got style.

letoile du nord on May 16, 2012 at 4:15 PM

All Romney needs to do now is figure out how to keep that GOP enthusiasm going and he can force O to spend a bunch of money on a state the Democrats never expected they’d need to protect.

He needs to convince them that the race is closer than it really is then. right?

ted c on May 16, 2012 at 4:16 PM

I suspect the DNC pulling out of Wisconsin has more to do with Dear Leader Hussein’s own fundraising woes and his demands that ALL resources go to “Teh Won” than them giving up.

Obama believes that even if they lose Wisconsin, if he wins “his last election” what Walker is doing won’t matter anyway, he’ll just wipe it away by Imperial Diktat.

wildcat72 on May 16, 2012 at 4:16 PM

Hopefully these great trends will continue.

dogsoldier on May 16, 2012 at 4:17 PM

Must be the Catholic vote coming into play.

oldroy on May 16, 2012 at 4:04 PM

I think that could be a factor in certain parts of the state. I grew up in the Appleton area, which is heavily Catholic.

Mr. D on May 16, 2012 at 4:17 PM

While we’re focusing on Walker, let’s not lose focus on lieutenant governor Rebecca Kleefisch. Her race against firefighter union head Mahlon Mitchell is far more tenuous. While she’s up 47-41 among likely voters, those who aren’t paying as much attention knock it down to 42-40 when all registered voters are asked.

Besides, if Mitchell wins, he’s just one kangaroo court from the governor’s office.

If you could spare some change for Kleefisch’s campaign, the people of Wisconsin would appreciate it.

Steve Eggleston on May 16, 2012 at 4:17 PM

Walker’s great new ad.

amerpundit on May 16, 2012 at 4:10 PM

Agreed.

WisRich on May 16, 2012 at 4:18 PM

I suspect the DNC pulling out of Wisconsin has more to do with Dear Leader Hussein’s own fundraising woes and his demands that ALL resources go to “Teh Won” than them giving up.

It’s a little of column A, a little of column B.

They don’t think the recall will succeed and, on top of that, every dollar they spend on it is a dollar that Barry can’t use to prop up his own campaign.

teke184 on May 16, 2012 at 4:18 PM

We need teh humbot. Like one a day for a number of days equal to the margin Walker wins by.

letoile du nord on May 16, 2012 at 4:18 PM

made me want to drink whiskey in the daytime

…more than usual, at least.

Zombie on May 16, 2012 at 4:18 PM

Just a simple glance at the number of votes that Walker received in the primary and the total votes for all of the Democrats “should” lead one to prepare for the June humpbot.

HarryStar on May 16, 2012 at 4:21 PM

The current electoral map:

Obama 221, Romney 206, Toss Ups 111

steebo77 on May 16, 2012 at 4:21 PM

If you could spare some change for Kleefisch’s campaign, the people of Wisconsin would appreciate it.

Steve Eggleston on May 16, 2012 at 4:17 PM

good tip. thx for the headsup

ted c on May 16, 2012 at 4:22 PM

Romney tied with Obama at 46

…so how does JugEars get down into the 30′s in these polls? Rape someone in front of the voter…stab their children…eat their dog…and skin their cat at the same time, while they are watching…as they are taking the poll? Would he be in the high 30′s then?….Geez!

KOOLAID2 on May 16, 2012 at 4:22 PM

Walker has been consistently ahead all along. I think the Unions have infuriated regular people with their subversion of democracy. Results you disagree with happen (see, e.g., Obama, Barack Hussein), but to not be able to wait 4 years, and try to subvert the voice of the people, cannot possibly endear you to the people.

What is more interesting is that Obama might be done in Wisconsin. A tie now means a loss in 6 months, espeically if Walker is re-elected. At this rate, California and NY might be swing states in November, and the current swing states might all be comfortably in the Romney column come November.

milcus on May 16, 2012 at 4:23 PM

Local news is fast and furious:

Distric X: put all teachers on individual contracts. That means Ms. “I’ll teach your kids to write good” is on her way out (not fast enough…but it’s progress).

District N: just revamped their benefits and found the money to give teachers an 18% raise while saving a million dollars.

Distict O: Laid off the lowest performing teachers and gave all other teachers a longer work day, plus $15-20K more in their paychecks.

District Y: Found a way, with teacher input, to add more classes by going to a more creative schedule. That’s more time for labs, longer classes, & more AP classes.

My neighbor is an MPS teacher. She was SHOCKED when I told her that our former district spent 12K, (4-8K less than MPS) and paid significantly higher salaries, with smaller class sizes and vastly superior outcomes.

It’s been a tightrope with my teacher friends – but they’re starting to realize that they got fleeced by WEAC too. It wasn’t just the taxpayers and the kids.

Daisy_WI on May 16, 2012 at 4:24 PM

If you could spare some change for Kleefisch’s campaign, the people of Wisconsin would appreciate it.

Steve Eggleston on May 16, 2012 at 4:17 PM

Done.

JPeterman on May 16, 2012 at 4:24 PM

Man, I wish GrowFins was back. Remember how crazy she went when the PEU reforms passed?

Good Solid B-Plus on May 16, 2012 at 4:09 PM

Yeah and I wonder if they had open registration too soon. They’ve had time to weed out all the new crazies before the going gets good.

Lily on May 16, 2012 at 4:25 PM

Great news! I have to admit that I’ve been seeing more and more Walker signs lately. My rabid lib neighbors have been unusually quiet lately too.

I’m a bit concerned about complacency. If too many positive polls keep coming out for the next couple of weeks it MAY cause some to sit home thinking their votes won’t be needed.

It is vital that this be a blowout win for Walker. If it is close the D’s will likely find more votes for Barrett stashed away somewhere in a trunk or closet. They’re really good at that kind of thing. Not sure how true this is, but I had heard that the voting machines were built by, and calibrated by, the SEIU. If that’s true, that could explain the sudden appearance of “lost” Dem votes that show up every time there is a close election.

One more thought: why do college students get to vote in the state they are going to college in? In my mind they should be voting absentee in their home states – not in the state where they are not a real “resident”, but just a temporary visitor. Why doesn’t someone make it a law that the only college students that can vote are those who have that address as their permanent address and they are not paying taxes in a different state?

PackerFan4Life on May 16, 2012 at 4:26 PM

The current electoral map:

Obama 221, Romney 206, Toss Ups 111

steebo77 on May 16, 2012 at 4:21 PM

Aside from CA, NY, MA, and IL, there are not too many safe Obama states. That is astonishing for an incumbent.

This will force him to stop spending money in states like VA, OH, FL to try to hold onto states like OR, NJ, etc..

Obma is really in deep, deep trouble. And considering the polling for many of those states is either old, conducted by PPP or other liberal groups and/or over-samples democrats, badly, and Romney might be at 300 electoral votes already.

milcus on May 16, 2012 at 4:26 PM

At this rate, California and NY might be swing states in November, and the current swing states might all be comfortably in the Romney column come November.

milcus on May 16, 2012 at 4:23 PM

dude. really? do ya think? Im asking because I think that seems a bit of a stretch but I get the drift.

ted c on May 16, 2012 at 4:27 PM

District N: just revamped their benefits and found the money to give teachers an 18% raise while saving a million dollars.

Distict O: Laid off the lowest performing teachers and gave all other teachers a longer work day, plus $15-20K more in their paychecks.

Daisy_WI on May 16, 2012 at 4:24 PM

wow. that is just brutal for the dems isn’t it?

ted c on May 16, 2012 at 4:29 PM

District N: just revamped their benefits and found the money to give teachers an 18% raise while saving a million dollars.

Distict O: Laid off the lowest performing teachers and gave all other teachers a longer work day, plus $15-20K more in their paychecks.

Daisy_WI on May 16, 2012 at 4:24 PM

wow. that is just brutal for the dems isn’t it?

ted c on May 16, 2012 at 4:29 PM

Yeah, if this started breaking out EVERYWHERE we might actually end up with the next generation (gasp!) being PROPERLY EDUCATED instead of being turned into socialist drones!

wildcat72 on May 16, 2012 at 4:33 PM

dude. really? do ya think? Im asking because I think that seems a bit of a stretch but I get the drift.

ted c on May 16, 2012 at 4:27 PM

For CA, no. That was hyperbole, and will never go Republican again (which will be a mortal lock if Democrats are ever allowed to amnesty the “11 million” illegals)

As for NY, while I dont think Romney can win because NYC is too full of Obama voters, the rest of the state is fairly Republican. And while a conservative can never have success in the state, a moderate might be able to in a wave election. However, it is really, really unlikely that Romney will win NY because of the composition of the people in NYC, and the sheer amount of them.

milcus on May 16, 2012 at 4:33 PM

The current electoral map:

Obama 221, Romney 206, Toss Ups 111

steebo77 on May 16, 2012 at 4:21 PM

That looks right, although there’s nothing but upside for Romney. He’s gonna win NC, Virginia, Ohio, and Florida, and then all he has to do is pick off New Hampshire, Iowa, or New Mexico(or Nevada if it’s not too far gone).

If he’s doing well enough to compete in places like Wisconsin, then forget about it. The election will be over before the Left Coast is done voting.

Doughboy on May 16, 2012 at 4:34 PM

And more good news…

President Obama’s budget suffered a second embarrassing defeat Wednesday, when senators voted 99-0 to reject it.

Flash…over at Drudge…

PatriotRider on May 16, 2012 at 4:34 PM

Speaking of brutal
OT/ Obama budget
meet flames.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/may/16/obama-budget-defeated-99-0-senate/

MontanaMmmm on May 16, 2012 at 4:35 PM

dude. really? do ya think? Im asking because I think that seems a bit of a stretch but I get the drift.

ted c on May 16, 2012 at 4:27 PM

I think he may be right. At this point I’m not sure The Won will carry Illinois. People everywhere are disenchanted with Obama.

Oldnuke on May 16, 2012 at 4:35 PM

99-0…I wonder who the 1 abstention was…probably McCain..

PatriotRider on May 16, 2012 at 4:36 PM

PatriotRider on May 16, 2012 at 4:34 PM

beat me to it. :)

MontanaMmmm on May 16, 2012 at 4:36 PM

This just keeps getting better and better!!! New Jersey will turn Red!!! I guarantee it!!

Natebo on May 16, 2012 at 4:37 PM

Yawn! another poll

gerrym51 on May 16, 2012 at 4:37 PM

At this rate, California and NY might be swing states in November, and the current swing states might all be comfortably in the Romney column come November.

milcus on May 16, 2012 at 4:23 PM

dude. really? do ya think? Im asking because I think that seems a bit of a stretch but I get the drift.

ted c on May 16, 2012 at 4:27 PM

While I doubt that happens, it really isn’t NECESSARY for it to happen, just for Hussein’s hold on states like that to be in doubt to force him to RETREAT from actual swing states to defend his position!

At the rate his fundraising is declining whilst his campaign organization is burning cash he won’t be able to do that.

If Romney could get New York and California to within SINGLE DIGITS, TONS of other blue states will be within the margin of error that he’ll have to pull completely out of places like North Carolina and even Ohio and Florida to keep from losing them.

This is not impossible…

Indeed, I think we are seeing Obama’s re-elect position right now at the strongest it’s going to be going forward. There literally is nothing that is going to happen between now and November that favors him.

wildcat72 on May 16, 2012 at 4:37 PM

99-0…I wonder who the 1 abstention was…probably McCain..

PatriotRider on May 16, 2012 at 4:36 PM

Probably Mark Kirk (R-IL), whom I believe to be recovering from a stroke.

teke184 on May 16, 2012 at 4:37 PM

99-0…I wonder who the 1 abstention was…probably McCain..

PatriotRider on May 16, 2012 at 4:36 PM

Obama voting “present”. Oh, that’s right… he’s moved up to doing that in the white house. Must be someone who has been taking “vote present” lessons from him then…

PackerFan4Life on May 16, 2012 at 4:37 PM

99-0…I wonder who the 1 abstention was…probably McCain..

PatriotRider on May 16, 2012 at 4:36 PM

Kirk. He’s recovering from a stroke.

amerpundit on May 16, 2012 at 4:38 PM

MontanaMmmm on May 16, 2012 at 4:36 PM

By mere seconds…. :)

PatriotRider on May 16, 2012 at 4:38 PM

Kirk. He’s recovering from a stroke.

amerpundit on May 16, 2012 at 4:38 PM

OK…that’s legit…

PatriotRider on May 16, 2012 at 4:39 PM

99-0…I wonder who the 1 abstention was…probably McCain..

PatriotRider on May 16, 2012 at 4:36 PM

More likely Coburn. Its’ SS LUV !!

rik on May 16, 2012 at 4:40 PM

Democrats obviously need something NEW and SHINY to distract the voters. Maybe a FREE car with each volt? Er….vote?

GarandFan on May 16, 2012 at 4:41 PM

Lions and Packers and Bears, oh my.

RSbrewer on May 16, 2012 at 4:41 PM

PatriotRider on May 16, 2012 at 4:36 PM

is the guy from Illinois that had the stroke a senator?

DanMan on May 16, 2012 at 4:42 PM

Just keep hitting them with the facts. They can’t compete.

Zaggs on May 16, 2012 at 4:42 PM

is the guy from Illinois that had the stroke a senator?

DanMan on May 16, 2012 at 4:42 PM

Yes.

JPeterman on May 16, 2012 at 4:42 PM

They must really be getting sick and tired of politics in Wisconsin by now.

Dr. ZhivBlago on May 16, 2012 at 4:44 PM

As I’ve been saying for some time, Presidential polls in the spring are almost meaningless. Too far til November, too much can happen, independents not paying attention, blah blah blah.

But if Teh Won is polling even with Romney in the state whose motto is “Forward!”, it cannot be spun as a positive for 0bama.

Even if Soetoro wins Wisconsin, and he probably will, close polls there mean he will have to spend money and time there that he would rather spend in more traditional battleground states like Florida and Ohio.

MidniteRambler on May 16, 2012 at 4:44 PM

They must really be getting sick and tired of politics in Wisconsin by now.

Dr. ZhivBlago on May 16, 2012 at 4:44 PM

Ever see “Groundhog Day”? Wisconsin is living in the “elections that never end”…. I, for one, will be really glad when Thanksgiving Day comes because that will mean they will ALL BE OVER finally… God willing….

PackerFan4Life on May 16, 2012 at 4:47 PM

“… made me want to drink whiskey in the daytime.”

*clink*

:)

Seven Percent Solution on May 16, 2012 at 4:47 PM

Fire up the humpbot!

Mr. Prodigy on May 16, 2012 at 4:51 PM

DO NOT GET COMPLACENT! VOTE IF YOU ARE IN WISCONSIN!

SouthernGent on May 16, 2012 at 4:58 PM

Fleabaggers hardest hit.

Buttercup on May 16, 2012 at 4:59 PM

Fleabaggers hardest hit.

Buttercup on May 16, 2012 at 4:59 PM

If you are referring to our D congressmen who fled into Illinois to avoid standing up for their beliefs, shouldn’t it be “fleebaggers”?
Ah, no matter how it’s spelled it’s a word that will live in infamy in Wisconsin.

PackerFan4Life on May 16, 2012 at 5:01 PM

I love how Walker has co-opted the “Forward” slogan in his ads. Not only from Obama but also from Feingold who used that for his campaign in 2010.

That’s rich right there. Walker’s got style.

letoile du nord on May 16, 2012 at 4:15 PM

The motto on the Wisconsin coat of arms is “Forward”, and it has been since it was adopted in 1881. Obama is the one who co-opted Forward to sell his backward policies.

WhatNot on May 16, 2012 at 5:03 PM

Allah:

Your forays into optimism are becoming increasingly distressing.

Please remember that just because the sky is not currently falling that doesn’t mean it won’t, and most likely it will.

The GOP candidate in every race, every where, needs to campaign as the mutt.

The optimism I am seeing here is very distressing.

Take nothing for granted anywhere, anytime.

Bruno Strozek on May 16, 2012 at 5:04 PM

The last Marquette poll, which had Walker leading Barrett by one thin point, made me want to drink whiskey in the daytime.

Don’t knock it till you try it.

msupertas on May 16, 2012 at 5:05 PM

Ready the Humpbot!

Libraritarian on May 16, 2012 at 5:06 PM

PackerFan4Life on May 16, 2012 at 5:01 PM

Yes Flee not Flea although they probably have fleas too. They are a dirty bunch.

Buttercup on May 16, 2012 at 5:12 PM

Packerfan – according to the Supreme Court, students may vote in either their parent’s home state or the state in which they attend college, but not both.

Of course, if you vote in a state, that means you have changed your residency to that state. While it doesn’t get you in-state tuition, it can get you a tax bill.

Daisy_WI on May 16, 2012 at 5:14 PM

Oops, forgot this – Wisconsin’s income tax is double that of Illinois (a painful lesson learned), so Illinois students might want to think twice about calling themselves a resident of this state.

Daisy_WI on May 16, 2012 at 5:15 PM

I can’t believe I’m asking this, but are we headed for a Scott Walker landslide?

I can’t believe I’m asking this, but are we headed for a national landslide like eighty years ago?

burt on May 16, 2012 at 5:19 PM

The current electoral map:

Obama 221, Romney 206, Toss Ups 111

steebo77 on May 16, 2012 at 4:21 PM

Somebody commented on PPP in NC, their electoral map at Kos from yesterday has Obama at 303 and Romney at 226 with only Co. having a toss-up with its 9 votes.

DanMan on May 16, 2012 at 5:20 PM

Indeed, I think we are seeing Obama’s re-elect position right now at the strongest it’s going to be going forward. There literally is nothing that is going to happen between now and November that favors him.

wildcat72 on May 16, 2012 at 4:37 PM

well, he could whack bin laden….oh wait.

ted c on May 16, 2012 at 5:23 PM

What is more interesting is that Obama might be done in Wisconsin. A tie now means a loss in 6 months, espeically if Walker is re-elected. At this rate, California and NY might be swing states in November, and the current swing states might all be comfortably in the Romney column come November.

milcus on May 16, 2012 at 4:23 PM

That’s how I look at it. If Obama is falling behind in in WI where he won by 14%, there is no way he can hold enough states to win. He is done.

I expect outright panic soon in Dem ranks if the swing state polling continues in this direction.

Missy on May 16, 2012 at 5:27 PM

Packerfan – according to the Supreme Court, students may vote in either their parent’s home state or the state in which they attend college, but not both.

Of course, if you vote in a state, that means you have changed your residency to that state. While it doesn’t get you in-state tuition, it can get you a tax bill.

Daisy_WI on May 16, 2012 at 5:14 PM

So… the question comes up whether these kids are paying taxes here in Wisconsin or not. I would be willing to bet that the majority of them are voting in both states; rather doubt they are paying taxes in both. In fact, it wouldn’t totally surprise me if they didn’t tell their home state they were paying WI taxes and telling WI they were paying taxes in their home state, thereby avoiding them both. Seriously, who is checking to make sure that they are voting ONLY in the one state? And that the state they are voting in is the state they are obligated to be paying taxes into? I have a feeling this is a HUGE hole. Repub Congresspeople… take note. This is a hole that would net the states more money- and more honest votes- if it were closed somehow.

PackerFan4Life on May 16, 2012 at 5:30 PM

They must really be getting sick and tired of politics in Wisconsin by now.

Dr. ZhivBlago on May 16, 2012 at 4:44 PM

Probably not the politics but definitely the politicians.

I think part of this is Walker’s performance, part the fact the Dems managed to nominate a dud, part voters who understand that this recall election is undemocratic and an underhanded tactic by public sector unions that thought they could parlay the threat of recall into reinstitution of collective bargaining (suckers!)

As an outside observer I’m angry at all the money I see wasted in having to hold a special election for no reason other than the fact that Democrats lost the last one.

Happy Nomad on May 16, 2012 at 5:30 PM

Come’on Wisconsin- Ripon is one of the several places that claim to be the birthplace of the GOP. Send a message to the commies in Madison and bring the state back to the party where it belongs.

Happy Nomad on May 16, 2012 at 5:32 PM

Come’on Wisconsin- Ripon is one of the several places that claim to be the birthplace of the GOP. Send a message to the commies in Madison and bring the state back to the party where it belongs.

Happy Nomad on May 16, 2012 at 5:32 PM

Anybody happen to know Ripon’s voting record? I don’t.

Start at “home” guys… make sure Ripon is voting R; and then the county is voting R; then the state; then the country.

PackerFan4Life on May 16, 2012 at 5:33 PM

You can drive from Oshkosh to Green Bay on US 41 and come across 4 Walker billboards (and no Barrett ones). IMO, you can’t go anywhere in the Fox Valley or Manitowoc without seeing at least 4 Walker signs. You can’t watch TV without seeing effective Walker ads. When I voted in the primary, it was more crowded than in 2008 or 2010. Northeast WI is activated and, along with the Milwaukee suburbs, will deliver this election. Hopefully for Romney too.

xuyee on May 16, 2012 at 5:39 PM

Packerfan – there’s a pretty easy way to close it. Voter ID – not a school id either – but a driver’s license or a non-driver id.

I think if they claim to live in WI, that they have to file paperwork w/ WI, even if they “pay” in MN.

Daisy_WI on May 16, 2012 at 5:41 PM

In the Civil War the Wisconsin “black hats” were well known to be hard fighters. The confederates didn’t want to hear that the force they were going against were the feared black hats, later known as the Iron Brigade. Wisconsin has led the way before… it is again leading the way. I am not ashamed to be a Cheesehead, born in Wisconsin and living in Wisconsin my whole life. I have to admit I’m ashamed of the like of Feingold; but proud of Scott Walker and proud of Paul Ryan. We are a different breed in Wisconsin. Must be something in that cheese, LOL. Scott Walker for VEEP!

PackerFan4Life on May 16, 2012 at 5:44 PM

Yowza. If as many Democrats in WI have switched to GOP to make these samples accurate then is curtains for the Democrats nation-wide in November. Corporatism and austerity yay, apparently. We’ll see how it works (hint, it won’t).

libfreeordie on May 16, 2012 at 5:48 PM

Packerfan – there’s a pretty easy way to close it. Voter ID – not a school id either – but a driver’s license or a non-driver id.

I think if they claim to live in WI, that they have to file paperwork w/ WI, even if they “pay” in MN.

Daisy_WI on May 16, 2012 at 5:41 PM

It didn’t sound like that in what I was reading today; how activists were storming the Madison campus today handing out absentee ballots for the students to bring home. http://www.wisconsinreporter.com/left-wing-activists-launch-last-ditch-student-voter-registration-effort-in-madison If they can just hand out absentee ballots, then they didn’t seem to have any other kinds of paperwork to fill out… ???

PackerFan4Life on May 16, 2012 at 5:49 PM

Wisconsin Black Hats

PackerFan4Life on May 16, 2012 at 5:55 PM

Too bad angryed went full retard in the Haircutgate thread. He should have saved his final meltdown for this.

Chuck Schick on May 16, 2012 at 6:02 PM

The cracks in the swing states are beginning to form. Que the attacks on Bain as their last ditch hope.

rubberneck on May 16, 2012 at 6:05 PM

I live in Southeast Wisconsin: we are sick of elections. We are sick of blatantly biased local media. We are sick and tired of the tantrum. We will come out and vote in droves for Scott Walker. Also, I need to give a shout out to the conservative talk radio hosts in Milwaukee…they fire everyone up and keep our spirits high. I really think Romney can win this state. People are really engaged, my only fear is that the passion will wain and election fatigue will set it. Hopefully not.

ineedahobby on May 16, 2012 at 6:11 PM

I don’t know what to make of that trend towards the GOP among the Wisconsin electorate generally, though.

Could it possibly be that the TRUTH resonates??? Nah…no polls to back that up…convince me what to think!

winston on May 16, 2012 at 6:14 PM

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