New Rasmussen poll in NC shows Obama’s same-sex marriage bounce

posted at 10:01 am on May 16, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Eight days ago, North Carolina voters added the previously existing statutory language defining marriage as between one man and one woman to their state constitution.  The very next day, Barack Obama — who won North Carolina by 0.3% in 2008 — endorsed the legalization of same-sex marriage.  A new Rasmussen poll shows the predictable consequences, which will likely end North Carolina’s status as a battleground state this cycle:

Mitt Romney has moved out to an eight-point lead over President Obama in North Carolina after the two men were virtually tied a month ago.

The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Voters in the Tar Heel State shows the putative Republican nominee earning 51% of the vote to Obama’s 43%. Two percent (2%) like some other candidate, and four percent (4%) are undecided.

That’s a big change from last month when Romney posted a narrow 46% to 44% lead over the president in Rasmussen Reports’ first survey of the race in North Carolina.  Democrats have signaled North Carolina’s importance as a key swing state by deciding to hold their national convention in Charlotte this summer.

Yes, that decision is certainly turning out well for Democrats in and out of the state, isn’t it?

Let’s take a look at the numbers inside the poll.  The D/R/I is pretty even at 36/35/30, probably a good electoral model; in 2008 it was 42/31/27, but obviously the turnout model is going to look different this time around.  Independents break narrowly for Romney, 49/45, but Romney also gets 18% of Democrats while losing only 6% of Republicans.  That 18% of Democrats looks awfully close to the 20.3% that voted “no preference” in last week’s primary rather than cast a vote for Obama, too, for a little independent corroboration of that number.

Romney leads among men 50/44, but does even better among women, 53/41.  That will send a shiver up spines at Team Obama.  Rasmussen uses three age demos, and Obama wins the youngest, but only 50/39, another red flag.  Romney wins wide majorities in the other two, including a whopping 68/30 split among seniors.

Rasmussen didn’t have a favorability question for Obama, but they did test for job approval.  Obama’s underwater at 46/54, slightly better at 49/51 among independents.  Romney’s favorability looks much better at 54/43.  In both cases, there is very little room for change, with almost no one undecided on these questions.  On the economy, 89% rate it fair or poor, with only 10% rating it good; 31% think it’s improving, but 41% think it’s getting worse, while 24% think it’s staying the same.  These are bad numbers for an incumbent President, especially one who just alienated more than 60% of voters the day after they went to the polls.

One more interesting note from the poll: voter-ID laws are remarkably popular, at 80/15.  Two-thirds of black voters support ID checks at the ballot box in North Carolina, a very surprising result given the usual claims that such laws are discriminatory.  Only 26% of likely voters believe that to be true, according to this poll, although black voters split almost equally on that question, 46/44.


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OWS — rampaging through NC streets when the DNC convention circus comes to town this summer.

AZCoyote on May 16, 2012 at 10:39 AM

That should work out well. It’s not as if North Carolinans have a ton of guns or anything.

CorporatePiggy on May 16, 2012 at 10:47 AM

You just wait until his second term! Gay marriage for all. For all who are gay. You know what I mean.

Paul-Cincy on May 16, 2012 at 10:41 AM

Except there ain’t gonna be no second term!

Trafalgar on May 16, 2012 at 10:47 AM

Now, how do we get Colorado?
bettycooper on May 16, 2012 at 10:27 AM

Nuke it from orbit…

TeresainFortWorth on May 16, 2012 at 10:47 AM

Just you wait. He’s not done inserting himself in the bios of former Presidents yet. He’s still got from Coolidge, on down, to complete. Once he’s done, people will surely see that Obama is The One.

Shiny_Tiara on May 16, 2012 at 10:48 AM

What work has he ever liked? Besides writing books about himself?

Paul-Cincy on May 16, 2012 at 10:43 AM

He didn’t even do THAT work by himself. They were ghostwritten, at least one of them by the domestic terrorist Bill Ayers.

wildcat72 on May 16, 2012 at 10:48 AM

You just wait until his second term! Gay marriage for all. For all who are gay. You know what I mean.

Paul-Cincy on May 16, 2012 at 10:41 AM

Except there ain’t gonna be no second term!

Trafalgar on May 16, 2012 at 10:47 AM

Illinois and California are more than welcome to secede from the union and take their debt with them and they can have Barry as their president if they want to…

wildcat72 on May 16, 2012 at 10:49 AM

He showed his money grubbing sleaze with the gay marriage issue.Every time gay marriage is up for a vote it is soundly defeated.Does he and his people not know this?

docflash on May 16, 2012 at 10:49 AM

I think Obama checked out of the job a while ago.

He likes the IDEA of being President, just not the work involved. Never really did, but it’s obvious now. No clue. Perpetual campaigner. Just like everything else in his life, which has all been handed to him.

ICanSeeNovFromMyHouse on May 16, 2012 at 10:38 AM

We was never committed to this gig. Aside from the campaigning, but that’s due to his narcissism. From day one, he outsourced every major piece of legislation to Pelosi and Reid. In Obama’s defense(and believe me, I’ll rarely use that phrase), he had that luxury since the Dems had huge majorities in both houses of Congress. But it also meant he had almost zero input into things like Porkulus or Obamacare aside from his signature.

And now that he no longer has the ability to ask Congress to rubber stamp everything since the GOP retook the House in 2010, he’s suddenly faced with the prospect of having to work with the opposing party to get anything of significance done. Since we’re dealing with a narcissistic Marxist who’s inherently lazy, that’s why virtually nothing is getting done legislatively. He’s instead relying on executive orders(some of which aren’t even legal).

This is why it’s preposterous to give the man 4 more years. The GOP will almost certainly still control the House and may retake the Senate. Does anyone seriously believe a lameduck Obama will have any inclination to sit down with Republicans and hammer out legislation to deal with the crises this nation faces? He can’t even get his own party to pass a budget for chrissakes!

Doughboy on May 16, 2012 at 10:49 AM

Again, the best way to preserve the liberal legacy, and avoid the post-Carter time in the wilderness, the Dems figure—is to find something other than 0bama’s failure on which to blame 0bama’s oncoming loss.

At least I hope that is what the calculation here is.

Sekhmet on May 16, 2012 at 10:50 AM

I wonder if Obama actually wants to lose but doesn’t want to appear that he wants to lose.

Why be around for a second term to deal with the consequences of his first?

He now has money, status, etc. – why put up with a second term which will only be worse than the first?

Josiah on May 16, 2012 at 10:51 AM

Anyone who voted for this clown in ’08 who has even a sliver of intelligence should be looking in the mirror and feel absolutely humiliated. What did you expect, really?

Forget the press and the inside-the-beltway a$$clowns – I said a sliver of intelligence…

ICanSeeNovFromMyHouse on May 16, 2012 at 10:53 AM

I hope the RNC is paying attention to Maryland. The Democrats just yesterday defined “the rich” as $100,000 for a single and $150,000 for a “married” couple. My husband and I are considering a divorce—which is very strange, since gays are clawing to keep their “right” here to get “married”. If you are married, you are penalized for being rich at $50,000. Oh, and that’s just the start of being part of the “1%” here….if your $150,000 a year bought you a 3-bed, 2-bath house which has gone down in value since anyone who can leave this place has left with their cash, the state is turning over the responsibility for paying the outrageous state-employee salaries and benefits to the counties. That 3 bedroom house will no longer be in your filthy rich budget when the county increases your property taxes.

No wonder all those people from Fairfax drive to Pax River every day.

Portia46 on May 16, 2012 at 10:45 AM

As an aside to this, I’ve always wondered why people even SEEK the government’s “blessing” on their marriages?

Marriage is a commitment made before God. As for dealing with the state, why do anything other than draw up some legal contracts such as a power of attorney and a will? Why should one need to agree to be married by the state? File your taxes as INDIVIDUALS.

When DID the state take over marriage in our history? Was this another part of the “progressive” revolution of the early 20th Century?

wildcat72 on May 16, 2012 at 10:53 AM

I wonder if Obama actually wants to lose but doesn’t want to appear that he wants to lose.

Why be around for a second term to deal with the consequences of his first?

He now has money, status, etc. – why put up with a second term which will only be worse than the first?

Josiah on May 16, 2012 at 10:51 AM

I seriously do not believe that is in the behavioral patterns of a malignant narcissist.

Turtle317 on May 16, 2012 at 10:54 AM

I wonder if Obama actually wants to lose but doesn’t want to appear that he wants to lose.

Why be around for a second term to deal with the consequences of his first?

He now has money, status, etc. – why put up with a second term which will only be worse than the first?

Josiah on May 16, 2012 at 10:51 AM

Make no mistake. He does NOT want to lose… Indeed, he can’t even conceive of losing. No true narcissist can. Losing the election would mean… REJECTION of Barry Hussein Soetoro himself.

His psyche can’t handle that without breaking.

wildcat72 on May 16, 2012 at 10:56 AM

Do you ditch your veep when he sabotages one of 4-5 battleground states for you? Old Crazy Joe, God love’em.

http://www.fiscalwars.wordpress.com

stout77 on May 16, 2012 at 10:58 AM

This is why it’s preposterous to give the man 4 more years. The GOP will almost certainly still control the House and may retake the Senate. Does anyone seriously believe a lameduck Obama will have any inclination to sit down with Republicans and hammer out legislation to deal with the crises this nation faces? He can’t even get his own party to pass a budget for chrissakes!

Doughboy on May 16, 2012 at 10:49 AM

______________________________________________

This.

The country won’t survive 4 more years of this crap. Nothing will get done, and we’ll simply continue our inertia and erosion as we head closer & closer to Europe.

ICanSeeNovFromMyHouse on May 16, 2012 at 10:58 AM

The country won’t survive 4 more years of this crap. Nothing will get done, and we’ll simply continue our inertia and erosion as we head closer & closer to Europe.

ICanSeeNovFromMyHouse on May 16, 2012 at 10:58 AM

…and here I thought the continent was drifting closer to Japan!

Turtle317 on May 16, 2012 at 11:00 AM

That should work out well. It’s not as if North Carolinans have a ton of guns or anything.

CorporatePiggy on May 16, 2012 at 10:47 AM

HEY!! Wait a minute there! We don’t have a TON of guns! Ya tree hugging lefty!

It is probably closer to 10 tons….. more or less….. in each region.

LoganSix on May 16, 2012 at 11:01 AM

It is probably closer to 10 tons….. more or less….. in each region.

LoganSix on May 16, 2012 at 11:01 AM

Did you forget the weight of the ammunition? That’s another 10 tons give or take.

Turtle317 on May 16, 2012 at 11:03 AM

This Poll is Gay.

ToddPA on May 16, 2012 at 11:04 AM

I don’t believe this poll.

Romney may have a 2-3 points margin but nothing close to this.

Obama’s floor in NC is quite high. He’ll get 47% of the vote in the worst scenario.

joana on May 16, 2012 at 11:05 AM

Two-thirds of black voters support ID checks at the ballot box in North Carolina, a very surprising result given the usual claims that such laws are discriminatory. Only 26% of likely voters believe that to be true, according to this poll, although black voters split almost equally on that question, 46/44.

Obviously I’m reading this wrong because it says 46% of blacks believe ID checks are discriminatory but 66% want them anyway.

yhxqqsn on May 16, 2012 at 11:08 AM

looking like a sure bet for Mitt Romney? I. Am. Shocked.

libfreeordie on May 16, 2012 at 10:08 AM

Say, could you please record and post a link of you doing a “Leave Barack Alone!” video along the lines of that “Leave Britney Alone” vid? I think you could really do it justice.

We’d all enjoy that.

theCork on May 16, 2012 at 11:16 AM

heh! That kitty ain’t bouncin!!
aw

ted c on May 16, 2012 at 11:16 AM

With all the pandering to special interest groups like the queers, Obama is raking in tons of money, all of which certainly disappears, somewhere. Obama probably has a rainy day fund, you know, like Chairman Mao, Stalin, and Hitler had – just in case.

Will he waste all of his ill-gotten lucre on re-election spending, or will a significant portion go into his future projects, like vacation, living high on the hog, etc.

Obama is going to be the Adam Clayton Powell of presidents. I hope he puts that in his biography, too.

dockywocky on May 16, 2012 at 11:19 AM

Anyone else notice that as Obama’s poll numbers go down that so have the gas prices? Oil companies and gas stations getting confident that they wno’t have their taxes raised, perhaps, since Obama may indeed NOT get reelected? Kind of like how when McCain’s numbers skyrocketed the prices shot down. Then they went back up once Obama got elected.

DethMetalCookieMonst on May 16, 2012 at 11:21 AM

No wonder all those people from Fairfax drive to Pax River every day.

Portia46 on May 16, 2012 at 10:45 AM

Your state’s comptroller was on the radio yesterday pointing out that in the DC area making $100K (or $150K if married) is middle class and certainly not rich. There is no way I would live in Maryland when Virginia is so close. The difference between socialism and captialism isn’t more stark than these two states.

Happy Nomad on May 16, 2012 at 11:23 AM

I LOVE it! In a very non gay sort of way.

samazf on May 16, 2012 at 11:24 AM

As an aside to this, I’ve always wondered why people even SEEK the government’s “blessing” on their marriages?

Marriage is a commitment made before God. As for dealing with the state, why do anything other than draw up some legal contracts such as a power of attorney and a will? Why should one need to agree to be married by the state? File your taxes as INDIVIDUALS.

When DID the state take over marriage in our history? Was this another part of the “progressive” revolution of the early 20th Century?

wildcat72 on May 16, 2012 at 10:53 AM

Probably during the Protestant Reformation, when certain sects were denying the sacramental nature of marriage as understood by the Catholic Church. For example, if I’m not mistaken, the Calvin-influenced Pilgrims who settled in what’s now southeastern Massachusetts treated marriage as a civil matter.

Libraritarian on May 16, 2012 at 11:25 AM

Obama’s chances here in Colorado was killed by his Gay Marriage announcement. I am sure the same is the the case in many other states.

His re-election chances basically ended with his support of Gay Marriage.

Norwegian on May 16, 2012 at 11:26 AM

Just you wait. He’s not done inserting himself in the bios of former Presidents yet. He’s still got from Coolidge, on down, to complete. Once he’s done, people will surely see that Obama is The One.

Shiny_Tiara on May 16, 2012 at 10:48 AM

I can’t wait to see hou he relates himself to George Washington, a man who took up armed revolution against a heavy-handed inefficient government that pushed a government controlled economy called “merchantilism” where the government required the use of preferred producers and vendors. That really does not allow for a lot of common interest with Obama.

KW64 on May 16, 2012 at 11:28 AM

The reverse gender gap is interesting. I have no idea since I don’t interact with very many single women anymore; but I wonder if single women oppose gay marriage because it reduces their chance of getting a husband; or did the decline in votes from women come from married women?

KW64 on May 16, 2012 at 11:35 AM

Probably during the Protestant Reformation, when certain sects were denying the sacramental nature of marriage as understood by the Catholic Church. For example, if I’m not mistaken, the Calvin-influenced Pilgrims who settled in what’s now southeastern Massachusetts treated marriage as a civil matter.

Libraritarian on May 16, 2012 at 11:25 AM

I highly doubt that people were filling out paperwork at government offices seeking State permission for marriage in the 19th Century.

In most of the country there weren’t government offices…

wildcat72 on May 16, 2012 at 11:36 AM

PPP has Obama up 1 in NC in a new poll (RVs).

These two polls suggest Romney has a 5 points lead or something close to that.

joana on May 16, 2012 at 11:38 AM

I can’t wait to see hou he relates himself to George Washington, a man who took up armed revolution against a heavy-handed inefficient government that pushed a government controlled economy called “merchantilism” where the government required the use of preferred producers and vendors. That really does not allow for a lot of common interest with Obama.

KW64 on May 16, 2012 at 11:28 AM

That’s easy, if you just try to occupy the mind of The One for a minute. You might want to sit down for that one, you could get dizzy.

“Washington enjoyed less than three years of retirement at Mount Vernon, for he died of a throat infection December 14, 1799. For months the Nation mourned him. A bereft Nation will mourn the greatness of President Obama as well, when he deigns to leave the office“.

OneFreeMan on May 16, 2012 at 11:43 AM

OWS — rampaging through NC streets when the DNC convention circus comes to town this summer. – AZCoyote on May 16, 2012 at 10:39 AM

You are right. That will be the last straw. North Carolina will be going for Romney.

SC.Charlie on May 16, 2012 at 11:45 AM

DethMetalCookieMonst on May 16, 2012 at 11:21 AM

Ironically, Obama may benefit from the increased optimism shown by capitalists in response to Romney’s decent polling numbers and chance he will win. Sort of a convoluted Hope and Change, if you will.

a capella on May 16, 2012 at 11:48 AM

A bereft Nation will mourn the greatness of President Obama as well, when he deigns to leave the office“.

OneFreeMan on May 16, 2012 at 11:43 AM

Well, I suppose if you consider a 24 hour round the clock street party “mourning” you could conclude that.

KW64 on May 16, 2012 at 11:49 AM

I wanna see some numbers for VA and OH.

Rational Thought on May 16, 2012 at 10:10 AM

Me, too. I’ve been confident for months that there was no way Obama would hold NC. OH, VA, and FL are the ball game. If they start to break for Romney it’s over.

I think the MSM has been delaying polling b/c the news is bad for Obama, but now that the dam is beginning to break they may be thinking they might as well go for it.

Missy on May 16, 2012 at 11:49 AM

On my daily run through kos yesterday they had their latest electoral map still showing NC in the Obama corner with his number up by over 4%. They also are counting on Pa and Ohio as solid blue.

DanMan on May 16, 2012 at 11:50 AM

His re-election chances basically ended with his support of Gay Marriage.

Norwegian on May 16, 2012 at 11:26 AM

..your keyboard to God’s monitor and all that!

:-D

The War Planner on May 16, 2012 at 11:51 AM

Portia46 on May 16, 2012 at 10:45 AM

Great post and sadly true….I am shocked how fast the bloody Dims here are catching up with their European counter-parts, amazing the coordination of message and all…this is exactly the same debate they have in France right now (and we are talking national debate there) and probably reason why most of the imbecilic, socialist average french voted for that airhead, Hollande. He and his idiotic party is proposing exactly the same thing, define rich (as in individual) anybody making 100,000 Euros and more, and around 150,000 if it’s a family, those with more children (4 and up) get a bit of a pass there because of their aggressive demographic policies in their struggle to preserve the white race :-), hard to keep up with the Maghrebis though……the shocking part is that most people are OK with the proposed figures, my sister is a cardiovascular surgeon there and she makes about exactly that much to put her into the ‘rich’ category as a single person, and she’s gotpatients who told her to her face that they think it’s ok to tax individuals who make 100,000 euros a year more than they are currently taxed (mind you they are already taxed way more there than they are here, but the redistribution frenzy is coming to America too, not to worry:(..she just couldn’t believe her years when a lil old lady on whom she was supposed to do a by- pass operation indirectly was telling her that she makes too much, the irony of it all being that some of her patients that end up in her surgery never worke
d a single dsy in their life, while she gets tied up in sometimes 8-hour long surgeries to save theirsorry lives…but that’s the entitlement mentality and looks Ike nobody is spared…what is most shocking is that a lot of my sister’s colleague, doctors and surgeons who make probably more than she does voted for that bloody socialist and when my sister tried to reason with them and asked them why, most of them didn’t have a good argument, it’s some sort of a stupid tradition there that if you are ‘intellectual, you vote left or some idiotic thing like this…it boggles the mind, and it seems that America has gotten into the exact mindset….is there any place to run…

bloody lives…..

jimver on May 16, 2012 at 11:51 AM

NC was always going to go red. 08 was a fluke. The result of everything going the Dems way.

therightwinger on May 16, 2012 at 11:51 AM

I highly doubt that people were filling out paperwork at government offices seeking State permission for marriage in the 19th Century.

In most of the country there weren’t government offices…

wildcat72 on May 16, 2012 at 11:36 AM

You can doubt what you want, all you want. The fact of the matter is that local governments were recording these marriages … in the *17th* Century. It’s a big boon to genealogists tracing family roots in Massachusetts.

The filing of paperwork to seek permission from the government, as you put it, is only a natural extension of seeing marriage as properly belonging to the sphere of government, and not religion – which is the key part of the problem, as you’ve rightly pointed out.

Libraritarian on May 16, 2012 at 11:51 AM

…Does anyone seriously believe a lameduck Obama will have any inclination to sit down with Republicans and hammer out legislation to deal with the crises this nation faces? He can’t even get his own party to pass a budget for chrissakes!

Doughboy on May 16, 2012 at 10:49 AM

..indeed! In order to manufacture a legacy commensurate with his mighty ego, he will then contrive to block and stall anything sent his way. This will shore things up for the Democrats who will label Congress as “do-nothing” and hope they can get their new champion elected in 2016.

The War Planner on May 16, 2012 at 11:56 AM

back-wood-gay-bashing-gun-clinging-religion-blinded-dumb-toothless-palin-worshiping-voters.

gatorboy on May 16, 2012 at 10:13 AM

back-wood suburban-gay-bashing marriage = 1 man + 1 woman-gun-clinging-religion-blinded-dumb smart-toothless gold-crown-having-palin-worshiping appreciating-voter…and damn proud of it!

mapper on May 16, 2012 at 11:57 AM

The reverse gender gap is interesting. I have no idea since I don’t interact with very many single women anymore; but I wonder if single women oppose gay marriage because it reduces their chance of getting a husband; or did the decline in votes from women come from married women?

The reverse gender gap has little to do with the gay marriage issue.

Romney has continually demonstrated that he polls far better with women relative to other GOP presidential candidates; and especially with senior women.

Another reason why the Dems did not want to run against Romney. He cuts into the Democratic gender gap without losing any support from men.

matthew8787 on May 16, 2012 at 12:00 PM

I think bounce in the title needs to be “bounce.” I initially thought Obama’s numbers had gone UP. :)

bobs1196 on May 16, 2012 at 10:44 AM

I think the cat gave it away in the picture, though….

Turtle317 on May 16, 2012 at 10:47 AM

Ah, how unobservant of me. Next time, I look at the image before questioning Ed’s headline-writing skills.

bobs1196 on May 16, 2012 at 12:00 PM

I think Obama checked out of the job a while ago.

He likes the IDEA of being President, just not the work involved. Never really did, but it’s obvious now. No clue. Perpetual campaigner. Just like everything else in his life, which has all been handed to him.

He’ll get his azz handed to him in November, and his gargantuan ego may suffer, but he’s got a lifetime on the lecture circuit & some real money to look forward to – what does he care, really?

Just an historic embarrassment that will set back the opportunities for far more qualified blacks in the future for decades. Nice work.

ICanSeeNovFromMyHouse on May 16, 2012 at 10:38 AM

I believe the above to be true to the very letter.

This is exactly how it’ll play out in the end.

NapaConservative on May 16, 2012 at 12:03 PM

I wonder if Obama actually wants to lose but doesn’t want to appear that he wants to lose.

Why be around for a second term to deal with the consequences of his first?

He now has money, status, etc. – why put up with a second term which will only be worse than the first?

Josiah on May 16, 2012 at 10:51 AM

Obama needs his narcissistic supply to be stoked constantly. He is self-absorbed without being self-aware. Defeat would knock him for a loop — he was crushed when he lost his first election to Bobby Rush. I think he really believes that he’s a good (maybe even great) president and he expects to win. I also think he has no interest (never has) in the job itself — only in the stature of the office and the deference and attention it affords him.

He would have more “flexibility” in his second term, since he would have nothing to lose. Re-election would validate and reinforce his grand opinion of himself, and preserve Michelle’s admiration of him (such as it is).

With him, money isn’t as valuable as adulation.

cheeflo on May 16, 2012 at 12:08 PM

Just a quick question –

Ed Morrissey supports gay marriage…right?
As does Allahpundit?

verbaluce on May 16, 2012 at 12:10 PM

Can you mooks keep this up to November? All the bile and vitriol. The distorting and flipping. I think the answer may be yes.

But even you echo chamber nutjobs know that unless you can put together two threads in a row that are about how great Romney is (not including ones that say he’s great because he mocked Barry) come the big dance you will be sadder sacks of shinola than you are now.

tommyhawk on May 16, 2012 at 10:20 AM

I wasn’t familiar with the pejortive, “mook”. So, I looked it up. How odd that you don’t think that word reaches the threshhold of “vile and vitriol”? It’s also rather strange that we of the nutjob class are both rednecks and rich frat boys and apparently all at the same time. Like Obama’s girlfriend. A composite nutjob mook?

Like Obama, are you going through school in a haze? Come to think on it, since Obama DID attend one of the most prestigious mook schools in the country for high school, he’d qualify as a card-carrying mook…drunk, drugged and feeling very sorry for himself.

Portia46 on May 16, 2012 at 12:10 PM

With a name like BHO, it’s going to be difficult to get elected. Snort.

Philly on May 16, 2012 at 12:10 PM

His re-election chances basically ended with his support of Gay Marriage.

Norwegian on May 16, 2012 at 11:26 AM

Ironic that the only thing this man has ever done that could remotely be called “courageous” was probably no more than a gross miscalculation.

But it does provide a remarkable tool by which to evaluate the analytical skills of the analytical set. Anybody who fails to see this blunder/pander for what it is might not lose their paycheck but has their credibility shrunk to 0.

rwenger43 on May 16, 2012 at 12:13 PM

Sounds like Baraka needs a new evolution to take place…fast!!

Ltlgeneral64 on May 16, 2012 at 12:14 PM

What work has he ever liked? Besides writing books about himself?

Paul-Cincy on May 16, 2012 at 10:43 AM

did he write them or were they ghost written for him

conservative tarheel on May 16, 2012 at 12:17 PM

its a good thing that the DNC convention ain’t in NC this year…...oh wait!

try the BBQ

ted c on May 16, 2012 at 12:23 PM

It is probably closer to 10 tons….. more or less….. in each region.

LoganSix on May 16, 2012 at 11:01 AM

REGION …. I was thinking TOWN ….. living here in NENC ….
everyone has 4-5 … serious folks got lots more ….

plus lots more ammo then the 10 tons ya all were talking about …
10 tons is what grannies and widow folks got for egg stealing dogs
and revenuers ….:D

conservative tarheel on May 16, 2012 at 12:24 PM

Bitter Clingers

MeatHeadinCA on May 16, 2012 at 12:25 PM

Did this poll take into account the dead vote?

MeatHeadinCA on May 16, 2012 at 12:25 PM

Just a quick question –

Ed Morrissey supports gay marriage…right?
As does Allahpundit?

verbaluce on May 16, 2012 at 12:10 PM

Ed is more nuanced. He wants the state out of the marriage business altogether, only being involved to enforce contracts.

NotCoach on May 16, 2012 at 12:29 PM

Too bad we can’t take a vote today. I’m not looking forward to September and October. This election is going to insane.

Book on May 16, 2012 at 12:35 PM

That really does not allow for a lot of common interest with Obama.

KW64 on May 16, 2012 at 11:28 AM

George Washington was the first white male to lead this nation under the US Constitution, Obama is the first black man to do the same. That makes Obama just like George Washington, right?

Happy Nomad on May 16, 2012 at 12:37 PM

I’m not looking forward to September and October. This election is going to insane.

Book on May 16, 2012 at 12:35 PM

Tell me about it. I live in a “battleground” state and already the ads and robocalls have begun.

Happy Nomad on May 16, 2012 at 12:38 PM

Obama is going to be the Adam Clayton Powell of presidents. I hope he puts that in his biography, too.

dockywocky on May 16, 2012 at 11:19 AM

Keep the Faith, Baby!

Del Dolemonte on May 16, 2012 at 12:40 PM

His re-election chances basically ended with his support of Gay Marriage.

Norwegian on May 16, 2012 at 11:26 AM

I don’t believe it. It may be a reason for some people to decide to vote for Romney or stay home BUT, with rampant unemployment, out-of-control government and spending, and all the other problems we have….. I simply don’t think gay marriage is the dealbreaker for Obama supporters.

Happy Nomad on May 16, 2012 at 12:44 PM

George Washington was the first white male to lead this nation under the US Constitution, Obama is the first black man to do the same. That makes Obama just like George Washington, right?

Happy Nomad on May 16, 2012 at 12:37 PM

Actually Obama is only slightly more black than George Zimmerman.

wildcat72 on May 16, 2012 at 12:45 PM

Let’s see, not being able to get married in a state I’m never gonna live in or Obama screwing himself out of an important state in the election? Yep. I’m officially not annoyed about Amendment One anymore.

Cyhort on May 16, 2012 at 12:47 PM

So is HotAir suggesting you should deny minorities rights if it is politically expedient?

GOP: “Lets bring back slavery if it ensures the South stays red for the next election cycle!!!”

inthemiddle on May 16, 2012 at 12:52 PM

His re-election chances basically ended with his support of Gay Marriage.

Norwegian on May 16, 2012 at 11:26 AM

Keep dreaming. No one is going to not vote for him based on SSM. It was a wash. Those who were going to vote for him still are; those who weren’t are still not going to.

Stop trying to villify gays as some toxic election demographic. Your bigotry is showing.

inthemiddle on May 16, 2012 at 12:53 PM

Public Policy Polling says Bacracka still leads in North Carolin with their new poll.

PPP’s newest poll of the Presidential race in North Carolina finds Barack Obama leading Mitt Romney 48-47.
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Obama maintains strong advantages with several key groups that should ensure North Carolina remains closely contested right on through the fall. He’s up 53-43 with women, reflective of the GOP’s struggles with that voter group everywhere. He has a 55-35 advantage with young voters, showing little slippage from our polling in 2008 with them. And he’s polling at 87% with African Americans and more importantly we continue to see high levels of enthusiasm from black voters, making it likely that they’ll again comprise 23% of the electorate as they did in 2008.

SouthernGent on May 16, 2012 at 12:54 PM

PPP has Obama up 1 in NC in a new poll (RVs).

These two polls suggest Romney has a 5 points lead or something close to that.

joana on May 16, 2012 at 11:38 AM

Interestingly, despite the differing final results, both polls are telling the same story. Over the past month, Obama declined from +5 to +1 in PPP, and from -2 to -8 in Ras.

bobs1196 on May 16, 2012 at 12:55 PM

Just an historic embarrassment that will set back the opportunities for far more qualified blacks in the future for decades. Nice work.

ICanSeeNovFromMyHouse on May 16, 2012 at 10:38 AM

Yeah, because after the disastrous Bush regime no white man will ever be President again!!

Please stop with the dramatics, queen.

inthemiddle on May 16, 2012 at 12:55 PM

So is HotAir suggesting you should deny minorities rights if it is politically expedient?

Homos already have the exact same rights as hetrosexuals do.

tommyboy on May 16, 2012 at 1:04 PM

But even you echo chamber nutjobs
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tommyhawk on May 16, 2012 at 10:20 AM

Your Mommy is calling you..

Daily Kos Elections Morning Digest:

Wouldn’t want you to have to hear anymore dissenting opinion.. might cause your widdle empty head to explode..

choad..

mark81150 on May 16, 2012 at 1:12 PM

Obama truly is the “great uniter.” He has people like me, who can’t stand Romney, to vote for simply because a second four-year term for Obama is too awful to contemplate.

bw222 on May 16, 2012 at 1:12 PM

PPP’s newest poll of the Presidential race in North Carolina finds Barack Obama leading Mitt Romney 48-47.

Why would anyone in his/her right mind believe a PPP/Daily Kos/Democratic Party poll?

bw222 on May 16, 2012 at 1:16 PM

So is HotAir suggesting you should deny minorities rights if it is politically expedient?

GOP: “Lets bring back slavery if it ensures the South stays red for the next election cycle!!!”

inthemiddle on May 16, 2012 at 12:52 PM

The irony is pretty thick you telling us we’d support slavery.. since the democrat party is the slave holders party of the Confederacy..

Still maintains a plantation mentality.. since conservative blacks ethnics and women routinely get racist and mysognist slurs thrown at them by your party.. just for voting outside the cage you left wingers have built for them.. Just check to se how many death threats good card carrying liberals send to Palin.. or Thomas.. or Sowell.

Your lack of knowledge of your own party’s racist past is stunning..

as is your lack of manners.

mark81150 on May 16, 2012 at 1:19 PM

inthemiddle on May 16, 2012 at 12:52 PM

You poor thing.

Here is a hug.

tom daschle concerned on May 16, 2012 at 1:20 PM

Poor, poor kitty, looks like the stonys and the brews caught up to her. Wonder what kitty will do with its next life?

Bmore on May 16, 2012 at 1:28 PM

No one is going to not vote for him based on SSM.

inthemiddle on May 16, 2012 at 12:53 PM

No one is a pretty big number. I’m willing to bet that there are SOME single issue voters will vote against Obama because of his position and that some voters will vote for him for the very same reason.

Happy Nomad on May 16, 2012 at 1:28 PM

So is HotAir suggesting you should deny minorities rights if it is politically expedient?
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inthemiddle on May 16, 2012 at 12:52 PM

So sexual orientation is grounds for minority status? Gays usually are among the wealthiest people in the US.. gee we should all be so badly treated..

you need a thicker skin..

Explain please why is it.. when the left attacks some conservative.. they routinely do so by calling them a “f*g”?.. A common attack the left loves to use.. but if the left thinks as you do.. being gay is perfectly normal.. why do your friends use it as a slur?

Breitbart laughed at your kind for doing that.. and he was right.. The hypocrisy of the left is astonishing.. and highly selective.. you love every kind of skin tone and religion.. except.. when you don’t.

Like Christians.. whom you often attack.

and the lefts love of homophobic/racist/misogynist smears…

Marriage is a religious covenant… and not subject to left wing trends. You don’t like that.. have government stop getting involved. But until you can rewrite the Bible.. we 60% will keep our definition.. you can use civil unions.

mark81150 on May 16, 2012 at 1:31 PM

Stop trying to villify gays as some toxic election demographic. Your bigotry is showing.

inthemiddle on May 16, 2012 at 12:53 PM

Please stop with the dramatics, queen.

inthemiddle on May 16, 2012 at 12:55 PM

You’re…not very self-aware, are you?

DrAllecon on May 16, 2012 at 1:34 PM

No one is going to not vote for him based on SSM.

inthemiddle on May 16, 2012 at 12:53 PM

No one is a pretty big number. I’m willing to bet that there are SOME single issue voters will vote against Obama because of his position and that some voters will vote for him for the very same reason.

Happy Nomad on May 16, 2012 at 1:28 PM

Agreed Nomad..

Saw that post this morning in the Headlines.. Urban black callers in NY incensed at Obama for his SSM speech.. they’ll not admit it much in public.. but he has just put the card on his house of cards.. there is no telling just how many Blacks have had enough.. of no jobs.. of his shameless pandering while ignoring them.

Obama has alienated quite a few people again.. some surely for the last time.

mark81150 on May 16, 2012 at 1:37 PM

Heard on the radio 67% say Obama did it as a pure political pander..

so much for his secular Messiah image.

Will they stop putting Halos on all his pictures now?

mark81150 on May 16, 2012 at 1:40 PM

Now, how do we get Colorado?

bettycooper on May 16, 2012 at 10:27 AM

Nuke it from orbit…

TeresainFortWorth on May 16, 2012 at 10:47 AM

…It’s the only way to be sure…

Haiku Guy on May 16, 2012 at 1:55 PM

No one is a pretty big number. I’m willing to bet that there are SOME single issue voters will vote against Obama because of his position and that some voters will vote for him for the very same reason.

Happy Nomad on May 16, 2012 at 1:28 PM

I think almost all of the single-issue SSM voters were already going to vote for Obama. Not many would have voted for Romney, if that is their single issue.

However, there are going to be at least a few voters who may have supported Obama for other reasons who will turn against him over this.

That is why this makes no political sense. Any movement that results will necessarily be movement away from Obama.

Haiku Guy on May 16, 2012 at 1:59 PM

Stop trying to villify gays as some toxic election demographic. Your bigotry is showing.

inthemiddle on May 16, 2012 at 12:53 PM

Please stop with the dramatics, queen.

inthemiddle on May 16, 2012 at 12:55 PM

You’re…not very self-aware, are you?

DrAllecon on May 16, 2012 at 1:34 PM

Ok, that’s funny… but not surprising. He’s a liberal; so anti-gay slurs, bigotry, homophobia, racism, sexism… yeah their rule is:
“It is only ok when I do it”

I’ve never understood why they think that rules makes sense; but it’s very common to find a liberal who thinks their anti-gay slurs, or racism, or bigotry, or whatever is ok because they’re liberal.

gekkobear on May 16, 2012 at 2:10 PM

PPP’s new poll has Obama up 1. Rasmussen’s wildly out of wack cross tabs are starting to show.

libfreeordie on May 16, 2012 at 2:15 PM

…”and that’s what I like about the south“…

The Ugly American on May 16, 2012 at 2:17 PM

OWS — rampaging through NC streets when the DNC convention circus comes to town this summer.

AZCoyote on May 16, 2012 at 10:39 AM

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That should work out well. It’s not as if North Carolinans have a ton of guns or anything.

CorporatePiggy on May 16, 2012 at 10:47 AM
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HEY!! Wait a minute there! We don’t have a TON of guns! Ya tree hugging lefty!

It is probably closer to 10 tons….. more or less….. in each region.

LoganSix on May 16, 2012 at 11:01 AM

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It is probably closer to 10 tons….. more or less….. in each region.

LoganSix on May 16, 2012 at 11:01 AM
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Did you forget the weight of the ammunition? That’s another 10 tons give or take.

Turtle317 on May 16, 2012 at 11:03 AM

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REGION …. I was thinking TOWN ….. living here in NENC ….
everyone has 4-5 … serious folks got lots more ….

plus lots more ammo then the 10 tons ya all were talking about …
10 tons is what grannies and widow folks got for egg stealing dogs
and revenuers ….:D

conservative tarheel on May 16, 2012 at 12:24 PM

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HOLY BALLS, just listen ya’ll. You make it sound like there’s gonna’ be a WAR.

North Carolina is the epicenter of the NASCAR world.

What could possibly go wrong? : )

listens2glenn on May 16, 2012 at 2:29 PM

I’ve never understood why they think that rules makes sense; but it’s very common to find a liberal who thinks their anti-gay slurs, or racism, or bigotry, or whatever is ok because they’re liberal.

gekkobear on May 16, 2012 at 2:10 PM

Liberals know that conservatives are wired to play by the moral rules of our society and that we have the mindset of winning without stepping outside the lines. Most conservatives have Christian beliefs and will turn the other cheek and not strike back with the same disregard for ethics that the libs have. We see this every day and it starts to frustrate many conservatives that we’re fighting with our hands tied behind our backs because we don’t want to stoop to the liberal level (see Boehner for instance). Libs exploit this advantage to the fullest, and they will always exploit it until we finally speak up or start using their own tactics against them.

Come to think of it, it mimics the tactics that the coward terrorists all around the world use.

NapaConservative on May 16, 2012 at 2:35 PM

Obama has alienated quite a few people again.. some surely for the last time.

mark81150 on May 16, 2012 at 1:37 PM

I think this is pretty uncharted ground for Obama. He’s never really had to worry about who he alienated because he was in a safe seat while in the state legislature and in recent years has a record of running for a higher office before he ever had to run on his accomplishments. Coming out for SSM was a political calculation but I’m not sure his campaign has accurately guaged the damage among certain groups who would otherwise be loyal supporters.

Happy Nomad on May 16, 2012 at 2:35 PM

That is why this makes no political sense. Any movement that results will necessarily be movement away from Obama.

Haiku Guy on May 16, 2012 at 1:59 PM

Except that he was getting a lot of pressure from gay activists.

Happy Nomad on May 16, 2012 at 2:37 PM

I thought Obama was a lock until his Gay Marriage pronouncement.

Now I’m not sure how Obama does this. This must have been the dumbest political move of all time. It’s all lose and no gain.

Clinton might be right that Obama is an amateur. If you think about it, if Mcain had gone after Wright and if he didn’t freak out after the crisis, we probably would have won that election. Maybe Axelrod is more lucky then smart.

BoxHead1 on May 16, 2012 at 2:39 PM

Except that he was getting a lot of pressure from gay activists that they were not going to open their check books for him unless he threw them a bone.

Happy Nomad on May 16, 2012 at 2:37 PM

I expanded a little on it.

NapaConservative on May 16, 2012 at 2:40 PM

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