Tom Coburn: Obama told me he’s willing to go a long way to reform entitlements in his second term

posted at 10:02 pm on May 15, 2012 by Allahpundit

He did once famously say, “After my election I have more flexibility.”

Second look at restoring fiscal sustainability by selling out everything your welfare-state base holds dear?

EK: It seems your view is that just as the market needs to have faith in your demographics and in the flexibility of your labor market and the competitiveness, it has to have faith in your political system’s capacity to deal with long and short-term threats. Do you see any reason for the market to have that faith right now?

TC: No. One of my biggest worries is what happens if Romney wins and Republicans control both chambers, do they have the courage to do what it takes to fix the country? It’s kind of their last chance. If they’re given the favor of control and they don’t act on it, why should you ever trust them again? You shouldn’t. It’ll be the death knell of the Republican Party. They controlled it all for four years under Bush and grew the government. They created a new entitlement with no revenue. Went against the very tenets of what they said they believe.

One of the reasons I wrote the book was to show a whole lot of people how many stupid things we do. I don’t really blame presidents too much. You gotta get appropriations. I say the problem is not that we don’t get along. We get along too well. Government is twice the size it was 10 years ago. The president can’t spend the money if we don’t appropriate it. So it’s not a president problem. It’s a congressional problem.

EK: On the other side of that hypothetical, let’s say Obama wins, but Republicans hold the House and maybe even take the Senate. How do they act in that hypothetical? Are they more or less willing to compromise with Obama?

TC: I don’t know. I’m not good at predicting that. If President Obama is president again, those problems are still there and we have to solve them. He knows that. We’ve had conversations where he’s told me he’ll go much further than anyone believes he’ll go to solve the entitlement problem if he can get the compromise. And I believe him. I believe he would.

Didn’t he tell us once before that he wanted entitlement reform done by the end of his first term? Why the hesitation, champ? You just earned yourself a giant line of credit with the left by siding with them on their favorite boutique issue. Cash in.


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Yes, we agree that Obama hasn’t been on an executive order rampage as suggested by right wing radio. His trajectory is no different than that of Bush.

We agree on no such thing. I never said anything about Bush. You said this:

Which recent President hasn’t often employed executive orders

bayam on May 15, 2012 at 10:58 PM

and then you posted his numbers in comparison to Bush, as though he had issued so many fewer. He hasn’t.

Furthermore, Obama promised not to use signing statements. He broke that promise. It doesn’t matter if Bush used signing statements. He didn’t promise not to use them. Obama did.

Resist We Much on May 15, 2012 at 11:58 PM

Tom Coburn is a fool!

Rio Linda Refugee on May 15, 2012 at 11:59 PM

o/t

is that ad Tammy Baldwin? or Elizabeth Warren?

Why do they always look alike?

At least Crazy Eyes has a distinguishing feature.

WryTrvllr on May 16, 2012 at 12:05 AM

The guy extended the Bush tax cuts, failed to nationalize or break up the banks when he had a chance, escalated Afghanistan and offs terrorists via drone and invokes national security like I order another beer on a Saturday night. He’s damn near a Republican.

urban elitist on May 15, 2012 at 10:35 PM

He has nothing to due with the extension of tax cuts or raises.
He has no authority to nationalize any private business without their approval.
More american troops have died in his 3.5 years than all of the previous years.
And he’s a flukeing Marxist.

Rio Linda Refugee on May 16, 2012 at 12:06 AM

The President’s word doesnt mean much and Coburn would be a fool to trust him.

Sacramento on May 16, 2012 at 12:06 AM

Coburn is perhaps more naive than McCain.

Does anyone remember Coburn being vocally adamant about government expenditures and leading a resistance? Neither do I.

onlineanalyst on May 16, 2012 at 12:11 AM

Inexcusable naivete. And dangerous.

AshleyTKing on May 16, 2012 at 12:12 AM

The President’s word doesnt mean much and Coburn would be a fool to trust him.

Sacramento on May 16, 2012 at 12:06 AM

Coburn has always been in the “Obama ia no threat to the country and I consider him to be a friend of mine” camp along with McCain.

Rio Linda Refugee on May 16, 2012 at 12:17 AM

Well Tom, that’s certainly good news. Too bad he’s a pathological liar and you’re a gullible dunce.

ClanDerson on May 16, 2012 at 12:19 AM

Coburn, too. We are not in good hands.

GaltBlvnAtty on May 16, 2012 at 12:25 AM

Dear Mr Coburn,
Please send me $3M.
I will give you some money back at a later date.

Thank you for your trust in a true American.

OccamsRazor on May 16, 2012 at 12:27 AM

Coburn’s main problem in his Senate career is his one-way “friendship” with Obama. I remember a townhall meeting in 2009 where he got a standing O but got booed after telling us how wonderful his friendship with Obama is. And how Obama is really not a radical. He is still duped.

Christian Conservative on May 16, 2012 at 12:35 AM

My respect for Tom Coburn has been slowly ebbing away the last couple of years, and now the last bit is gone. Do these congressmen live with their heads buried in the sand or what?

theaddora on May 16, 2012 at 12:38 AM

I’m sure it has already been said but “What does team totalitarian have on Coburn?”

Are his kids accounted for/

jukin3 on May 16, 2012 at 12:43 AM

Isn’t Dr. Coburn retiring?

Cindy Munford on May 16, 2012 at 12:51 AM

In a nutshell, Coburn is another useful idiot like that one who got voted out, Dick Lugar, who helped Obama to gain his foreign policy street cred. What a joke that was. Now, this other useful idiot wants the nation to believe that Obama’s words don’t carry an expiration date.When oh when will Republicans stop being idiots, asses, morons?

SilentWatcher on May 16, 2012 at 1:05 AM

Riiiiight… I would gladly pay you tomorrow for a hamburger today. Whatever you say whimpy.

Karmashock on May 16, 2012 at 1:05 AM

@theaddora on May 16, 2012 at 12:38 AM.

No, the live with their heads buried up their butts.

SilentWatcher on May 16, 2012 at 1:07 AM

“Obama told me he’s willing to go a long way to reform entitlements in his second term.”

Tom Coburn

.
A growing number of us are “willing to go a long way” to ABOLISH entitlements.

listens2glenn on May 16, 2012 at 1:21 AM

The guy extended the Bush tax cuts, failed to nationalize or break up the banks when he had a chance, escalated Afghanistan and offs terrorists via drone and invokes national security like I order another beer on a Saturday night. He’s damn near a Republican.
urban elitist on May 15, 2012 at 10:35 PM

No mention of Obamacare?

Chuck Schick on May 16, 2012 at 1:23 AM

Seriously Tom?

WisCon on May 16, 2012 at 1:49 AM

Dear Tom,

Perhaps you should sit down and have a heart to heart discussion with Richard Lugar and John Brunning.

Just a thought.

Sincerely

Jaydee_007.

jaydee_007 on May 16, 2012 at 3:00 AM

Coburn not cogent.

Sherman1864 on May 16, 2012 at 3:40 AM

Isn’t Dr. Coburn retiring? should retire.

Cindy Munford on May 16, 2012 at 12:51 AM

FIFY Cindy.

98ZJUSMC on May 16, 2012 at 3:52 AM

The guy extended the Bush tax cuts, failed to nationalize or break up the banks when he had a chance, escalated Afghanistan and offs terrorists via drone and invokes national security like I order another beer on a Saturday night. He’s damn near a Republican.

urban elitist on May 15, 2012 at 10:35 PM

I wasn’t aware that respect for private ownership and aherence to the Constitution was strictly a Republican trait….

…perhaps, I should have been.

You people let them mask slip every time you open your collective mouths. Without the blamestream media and the indoctrination factories, you clowns would be borderline non-existent.

98ZJUSMC on May 16, 2012 at 4:01 AM

No mention of Obamacare?

Chuck Schick on May 16, 2012 at 1:23 AM

The most right wing health care strategy in the developed world? Where most people still have private insurance, and he vast majority of health care professionals are in private practice and most facilities are in private hands?

Of you want leftist health care, you have to see the systems that the conservatives in Canada, Britain and Germany support.

urban elitist on May 16, 2012 at 4:36 AM

No mention of Obamacare?

Chuck Schick on May 16, 2012 at 1:23 AM

The most right wing health care strategy in the developed world?

urban elitist on May 16, 2012 at 4:36 AM

Nice application of the ‘Big Lie’ technique, maggot. Name me one, a single conservative, that voted for that crap-sandwich.

You can’t because they didn’t. Right wing health care strategy? It’s a left wing curveball. Obamacare is doomed to failure in order to push single-payer. You can lie all you want about it, but no one here is buying your BS.

Phil-351 on May 16, 2012 at 5:56 AM

And I believe him.

Hey Tom, I have a great deal for you on a bridge near Brooklyn…

Good grief, will we never learn?

petefrt on May 16, 2012 at 6:04 AM

Well Tom, that’s certainly good news. Too bad he’s a pathological liar and you’re a gullible dunce.

ClanDerson on May 16, 2012 at 12:19 AM

+1

petefrt on May 16, 2012 at 6:07 AM

He should just go on TV in Oklahoma and say “I’m a gullible fool. Never elect me again.” Jeebus, I thought Lugar was bad…

swinia sutki on May 16, 2012 at 6:11 AM

come november, we’ll get a repeat of 2010, and the leftists will utilize the media in a such a way as to finally destroy the last vestiges of their credibility. as of now, they don’t see the landslide headed their way, but if they do, don’t be surprised at the lengths they will go to hold onto the reins of the wagon, be afraid!!!

tm11999 on May 16, 2012 at 6:15 AM

Oh my Lord. Tom Colburn has to go, he is turning into John McCain.

stenwin77 on May 16, 2012 at 6:15 AM

Too bad he’s a pathological liar and you’re a gullible dunce.

ClanDerson on May 16, 2012 at 12:19 AM

People as gullible and intellectually defenseless as Coburn should not be trusted with other people’s money and security. He’s an old fool.

Jaibones on May 16, 2012 at 6:33 AM

He was apparently too busy cutting the deficit in half during his first term to get entitelement reform completed. oh….wait.

mouell on May 16, 2012 at 6:49 AM

Politicians can go a long way by telling whoever they are talking to what they want to hear; even if it contradicts what they just told someone else as long as it never goes too public where each hears what the politician told the other e.g. “bitterly cling to their guns and bibles” and the open microphone with Medvedev. I am just waiting to hear what Obama told AARP about his “flexibility” with entitlements.

KW64 on May 16, 2012 at 6:51 AM

Tom Coburn: Obama told me he’s willing to go a long way to reform entitlements in his second term

sucker…

cmsinaz on May 16, 2012 at 6:52 AM

I had great trust in Coburn’s judgement . . . until now.

WannabeAnglican on May 16, 2012 at 6:55 AM

One of my biggest worriesfears is what happens if Romney wins and Republicans control both chambers, do they have the courage to do what it takes to fix the country? It’s kind of their last chance. If they’re given the favor of control and they don’t act on it, why should you ever trust them again? You shouldn’t. It’ll be the death knell of the Republican Party.

This is what it looks like when you live your life in fear. The Repubs have been the minority in their minds for so long that they are afraid to actually lead. Time for new leadership; Bold, not afraid to lead, charging into battle!

GrayDog on May 16, 2012 at 7:19 AM

You mean people who interact with Obama at a personal level have a different impression of him than those educated about Obama by Glenn Beck and Rush? Shocking! Rush knows everything!

bayam on May 15, 2012 at 11:14 PM

Only by degrees. Keep in mind that Obama’s ex informed us that he was kind of a cool, aloof guy back in the day, and more than a couple of the people who served with him in the Senate seemed to consider him something of a tool. Of course, the “people who interact with Obama at a personal level” seem to be dwindling rapidly, as he pretty much never meets with Republican congressmen, is meeting less and less with Democrat congressmen, and has only given like two press conferences his entire term.

What happened? Did Glenn Beck radio re-program history again? What about Boehner’s “grand bargain” with Obama to cut entitlement spending, did the thought police outlaw that memory?

The only reason that Obama and Boehner haven’t already cut spending is because Tea Party outrage forced Boehner to abandon the deal.

bayam on May 15, 2012 at 10:51 PM

Yes, imagine the outrage when they had agreed to a deal, only to have Obama come back later and try to effectively double the tax portion of the bargain. History clearly shows that if a Great Leader ™ alters the deal, the proper response is to pray he doesn’t alter it any further.

Both Reagan and Bush 41 came to agreements to trade “revenue increases” now for spending cuts later. Worked out real great for fiscal restraint both times. /s

The Schaef on May 16, 2012 at 7:22 AM

We’ve had conversations where he’s told me he’ll go much further than anyone believes he’ll go to solve the entitlement problem if he can get the compromise. And I believe him. I believe he would.

We’re in deep sh*t. Coburn is a bobblehead.

jan3 on May 16, 2012 at 7:31 AM

TC: No. One of my biggest worries is what happens if Romney wins and Republicans control both chambers, do they have the courage to do what it takes to fix the country?

First thought: go screw yourself Tommy. What exactly have you done or proposed? Oh, that’s right. Nothing feasible.

Second thought: If Republicans get a majority and the twin clowns of Boehner and McConnell get control and don’t do anything, the following election they will lose that majority and it won’t come back. Ever. Until someone responsible, reliable, truthful, smart, savvy, with some stones that doesn’t cry when seeing pictures of small puppies and picking up the tab for the President’s free-lunch is in a position to be Speaker or the Republican Senate leader.

Marcus Traianus on May 16, 2012 at 7:40 AM

Apparently Tom Coburn is not a Star Wars fan, “It’s a trap!”.

roy_batty on May 16, 2012 at 7:52 AM

Nice application of the ‘Big Lie’ technique, maggot. Name me one, a single conservative, that voted for that crap-sandwich.

You can’t because they didn’t. Right wing health care strategy? It’s a left wing curveball. Obamacare is doomed to failure in order to push single-payer. You can lie all you want about it, but no one here is buying your BS.

Phil-351 on May 16, 2012 at 5:56 AM

On any practical spectrum of possible health care strategies, Obamacare is decidedly centrist. It is very similar to Nixon’s proposal in the 1960s, and the mandate is drawn from a Heritage Foundation recommendation. It is more conservative than the plans currently favored by the right-leaning voters and lkeaders in Germany, Canada and the UK.

Oh, and with the “Big Lie” comment, you’ve invoked Godwin’s Law you lose, thanks for playing.

PS: “maggot?” You been watching those boot camp movies on late night cable? I’ve never actually heard that word used as an epithet by anyone not parodying those tough old drill sergeants.

urban elitist on May 16, 2012 at 7:53 AM

he most right wing health care strategy in the developed world? Where most people still have private insurance, and he vast majority of health care professionals are in private practice and most facilities are in private hands?

Of you want leftist health care, you have to see the systems that the conservatives in Canada, Britain and Germany support.

urban elitist on May 16, 2012 at 4:36 AM

I love the flailing leftists. The argument now is “hey conservatives, Obama is really a moderate”. Again I ask, as I always do, when you have to always lie to even try to argue for your side, how is it you can believe you are right? Don’t you ever get tire of having to constantly lie?

- Obamacare
- stealing from shareholders to give to the unions for the car companies while nationalizing car companies
- spending like an idiotic, drunken, drug addled sailor
- wants to raise taxes at every turn, but is stymied
- wants cap and trade
- supports every leftist America-hating regime in the world but betrays allies left and right
- supports every left-wing social policy (gay marriage, abortion on demand)
- hates religious freedom (HHS mandate)
- wants to take away the rights of employers to provide employees any information before a union election (NLRB ambush election rules)
- operates in secret (least transparent administration ever)
- crony capitalism (Solyndra, et al)
- enemies list where people who donate to political opponents are “outed” on his website
- uses the gov’t to try and create crisis to take away freedoms (Fast and Furious)
- does everything in his power to keep America from developing its own energy (aside from delusional crony capitalism “solar energy projects”)
- bypasses constitutional authority and democratic laws whenever possible (illegal “recess appointments”, multiple unaccountable new “czars”, using regulation to try and achieve what he can’t through legislative process)

This guy is the farthest left-wing ideologue ever to sit in the white house. His upbringing was Marxist (from his admitted Marxist mentor to his Bill Ayers connection).

to claim he is not left-wing defies all reality. It is delusional. And, the funniest thing is, Obama does everything the left accused Bush of (that Bush never actually did). If the left had one iota of principal, leftists would never vote for Obama again. Of course, we all know the left has no principals whatsoever, so you will. Again, doesn’t it bother you to lie about absolutely everything? Don’t you realize that when you have to lie just to try and make an argument for your guy/policies, it means you are not correct? That there is something wrong with your ideology if you must always lie to support it?

Apparently not.

Monkeytoe on May 16, 2012 at 8:01 AM

Hmmmm…Coburn regurgitates exactly why America is in deep trouble… People with heads full of goo running the country…

aposematic on May 16, 2012 at 8:01 AM

PS: “maggot?”

urban elitist on May 16, 2012 at 7:53 AM

Yeah, I think maggot is about right. Sod off, kook fringe.

Jaibones on May 16, 2012 at 8:01 AM

On any practical spectrum of possible health care strategies, Obamacare is decidedly centrist. It is very similar to Nixon’s proposal in the 1960s, and the mandate is drawn from a Heritage Foundation recommendation. It is more conservative than the plans currently favored by the right-leaning voters and lkeaders in Germany, Canada and the UK.

urban elitist on May 16, 2012 at 7:53 AM

Yes, in the 60′s Nixon supported something “similar”. that does not make it centrist by today’s standards. Nixon was not a conservative, nobody ever claimed he was a conservative. He was actually pretty liberal. The Heritage Foundation considered the idea and supported it for a short while but then rejected it.

Because your ideological opponents consider something and reject it as being asinine, or because someone who was on the other team at one time thought it might be a good idea, does not transform something magically into being “centrist” or “moderate” or “conservative”.

Obamacare is a left-wing abomination. It has – as admitted to by its architect – one purpose. To destroy the insurance industry and lead to single payer. The architect of the legislation admitted as much. So your denial is meaningless. And, as I pointed out above, as you do nothing but lie, it makes little difference what you say, as we know you are lying when you say it.

Obama is an ignorant, far-left, hack partisan, incompetent, dishonest failure. He is likely the worst president in 100 years, if not longer. He has failed at every turn and is about the most childish and clueless person who ever held the office. His petulance and dishonesty are staggering. In other words, a typical leftist.

Monkeytoe on May 16, 2012 at 8:06 AM

Didn’t he tell us once before that he wanted entitlement reform done by the end of his first term? Why the hesitation, champ?

Didn’t he tell us once before that he wanted entitlement reform done by the end of his first term? Why the hesitation, champ?Chump?

FIFU

He’s my senator and I have defended him stoutly in the past. But no more. I guess this will be his last term.

Old Country Boy on May 16, 2012 at 8:17 AM

He needs to go.

wi farmgirl on May 16, 2012 at 8:21 AM

No one should feel safe to make statements like that. Hell Nooooo.

wi farmgirl on May 16, 2012 at 8:22 AM

Tom Coburn is starting to sound like a battered spouse….

TeresainFortWorth on May 16, 2012 at 8:29 AM

Well of course TC believes him, after all BHO has never ever told an untruth before. You doubters just won’t admit that the pres would not tell someone something just to get reelected — how about that LGBT fiasco?

Pardonme on May 16, 2012 at 8:42 AM

Good thing he and Inhofe say they’re retiring at the end of their respective terms, otherwise I’d primary either one if no other conservative will. These guys have become more disappointing with the passing years since 2006.

AH_C on May 16, 2012 at 8:44 AM

Well Tom, that’s certainly good news. Too bad he’s a pathological liar and you’re a gullible dunce.

ClanDerson on May 16, 2012 at 12:19 AM

I agree. Where has this guy’s brain been for the last four years?

We need to start vetting the wisdom and real intelligence of our elected officials. WOW What a dumb remark.

dogsoldier on May 16, 2012 at 8:44 AM

Obama also told the American people that he would cut the deficit in half in his first term and unemployment would not go above 8%. The problem is Obama lies.

jeffn21 on May 16, 2012 at 9:11 AM

wtf is a tom coburn
and is he really that easy to snow?

losarkos on May 16, 2012 at 9:12 AM

Tom, you need to quit closing down the DC bars.

Kissmygrits on May 16, 2012 at 9:27 AM

Obama told me he’s willing to go a long way to reform entitlements in his second term

Yeah, and I’m willing to flap my arms and fly to the moon.

Akzed on May 16, 2012 at 9:38 AM

Well I don’t believe him. And I think the American people have the right to see how and what he (Obama)would do before we re elect him. How stupid. Obama has already outspent Bush, Coburn didn’t mention what the Dems have done in their 4 years in control of congress, did he? They spent, and spent and spent. We have paid for Solyndra to fail and for buddies of the President to walk away unscathed. We have pain for the banks, the auto industry, the public employee pension funds, erectile disfunction studies,a 5.9 million program at the Chicago Med Center, turtle crossings and now they promise they are going to fix it? I don’t believe a damn word of it. Obama will go further but it will be in tax hikes. And what sort of growth will we get from a second term? Obama won’t drill he won’t frack he won’t build a pipeline. He has been the most unfriendly President ever to business unless of course its something green that cannot possibly work. I would like to slap this Coburn.

magicbeans on May 16, 2012 at 9:40 AM

Has anyone ever told Tom Coburn that talk is cheap?

Hey Tom grow up.

Dr Evil on May 16, 2012 at 9:49 AM

If President Obama is president again, those problems are still there and we have to solve them. He knows that. We’ve had conversations where he’s told me he’ll go much further than anyone believes he’ll go to solve the entitlement problem if he can get the compromise. And I believe him. I believe he would.

I don’t believe him. I don’t believe anything Obama says. You shouldn’t believe him either, Senator.

Dear Senator Coburn–if you think entitlement reform would be harder under Romney than under Obama, do you have the votes to override a veto? Who would be most likely to veto entitlement reform out of Congress: Romney or Obama?

Steve Z on May 16, 2012 at 9:56 AM

Maybe I’m reading this differently?

We’ve had conversations where he’s told me he’ll go much further than anyone believes he’ll go to solve the entitlement problem if he can get the compromise. And I believe him. I believe he would.

Something like three bucks of spending cuts for a dollar in tax hikes or whatever? Wasn’t that the ‘deal’ last time? Maybe he’ll go to a whole four or five bucks of cuts per extra dollar of revenue this time – most of those cuts being down the road, I’m sure. Pretty sure that is – or ought to be – a nonstarter in negotiations, though, so I dunno how bad this has to be.

Frankly I’m inclined to agree with Coburn – Obama would love to be able to cut the deficit on his terms – everybody in the country wants that, after all, and he would love to have a notch like that on his belt. (Understandably so; it’d definitely cement his place in history on a positive note.)

Aquarian on May 16, 2012 at 10:03 AM

Well Tom, that’s certainly good news. Too bad he’s a pathological liar and you’re a gullible dunce.

ClanDerson on May 16, 2012 at 12:19 AM

+100

theaddora on May 16, 2012 at 10:03 AM

Coburn is extremely foolish and naive if he think Obama is telling the truth on reforming entitlements. Isn’t he the same guy who said Pelosi is a “nice lady”? He is a Lugar sound-alik and needs to be primaried next time he comes up for reelection.

conservativemusician on May 16, 2012 at 10:07 AM

This is the same man who called Nancy Pelosi a nice woman.

Do I trust Tom Coburn’s judgement when it comes to his opinion of his political opponents? NO

What has Tom Coburn ever accomplished besides giving Democrats political cover?

Dr Evil on May 16, 2012 at 10:07 AM

When will this obama tool be challenged by a REAL conservative. Never forget this one thing about DC politicians:

No matter what they do to the country, they will always be taken care of by the taxpayers. Always and forever they will live like kings and queens on our hard earned income. Always.

Vote them all out and start over every election until we have new blood with term limits and less benefits for them to profit from.

uber-con on May 16, 2012 at 10:12 AM

It seems every Republican who goes to DC suffers the same symptoms — aside from a few (shout out to my other ex-Senator James Inhofe). Bury your head in the sand, reach across the aisle and get along.
Notice that no Democrat suffers from that disease.

Christian Conservative on May 16, 2012 at 10:21 AM

Bush looked into Putin’s eyes and saw his soul, then captured his heart

Good luck Tom. Hope you have better luck than Bush did with Obama.

iamsaved on May 16, 2012 at 10:42 AM

Coburn also thinks pelosi is a nice woman. Time for tom to go.

peacenprosperity on May 16, 2012 at 11:00 AM

TC: I don’t know. I’m not good at predicting that. If President Obama is president again, those problems are still there and we have to solve them. He knows that. We’ve had conversations where he’s told me he’ll go much further than anyone believes he’ll go to solve the entitlement problem if he can get the compromise. And I believe him. I believe he would.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice …

Well Tom, that’s certainly good news. Too bad he’s a pathological liar and you’re a gullible dunce.

ClanDerson on May 16, 2012 at 12:19 AM

talkingpoints on May 16, 2012 at 11:21 AM

Coburn is a nice guy! He’s just a politician first and would rather get re-electerd than to do something that might risk his exalted position. You know, like 99% of the current ‘murder of crows”? Trust none of them, but do not think them naive or stupid. Just self-centered, narcissistic, conscienceless sources of danger to America under the Constitution.

dahni on May 16, 2012 at 12:10 PM

Tom, do not believe a word from Obama. Look at how many promises he made and broke already.

Amazingoly on May 16, 2012 at 12:37 PM

Coburn, “one of the most conservative members of the Senate”. What a joke. Coburn is another Orrin Hatch.

vilebody on May 16, 2012 at 12:44 PM

Um, does Coburn not remember Lucy holding the football?

Mohonri on May 15, 2012 at 10:03 PM

PERFECT first post!!!!

RedLizard64 on May 16, 2012 at 1:59 PM

All the more reason that an reasoned forceful argument and subsequent move to repeal the 17th amendment should begin now. The local corruption that was once easy is no longer so in the age of the internet…just ask Sarah Palin about what she was able to combat locally. We need to return as much as possible to original intent of the Constitution.

RedLizard64 on May 16, 2012 at 2:04 PM

Damn! He just got re-elected in 2010, so we can’t primary him. Still a foolish statement to make even if it costs him nothing. It’s irritating me more and more, lately, when these RINOs sneak in to a new term.

Tomolena1 on May 16, 2012 at 3:38 PM

Are Tom Coburn and Elizabeth Warren siblings? They seem to have the same regards for the truth.

volsense on May 16, 2012 at 4:04 PM

I understand that often big changes can occur with divided government since, technically, both sides have to kind of agree on the big changes, but at this stage I don’t see a reason for Obama to do whatever Coburn seem to think Obama is saying that he would be willing to do.

I really don’t.

I am really pessimistic that this (i.e. entitlement reform, given Obama got reelected) would actually occur, though I wouldn’t mind be pleasantly surprised if Obama did actually do it. [Not holding my breath though].

Russ808 on May 16, 2012 at 4:28 PM

Tom – see McCain’s posting re : campaign finance bi-partisanship and you can piggyback on that. No sense on going out there all by yourself.

Fuquay Steve on May 16, 2012 at 4:46 PM

TC: No. One of my biggest worries is what happens if Romney wins and Republicans control both chambers, do they have the courage to do what it takes to fix the country?

As a person who gets to choose whether to vote for Coburn, I’ll ask him if he’s got the courage to make the Republicans do what it takes to fix the country. Or will he be stupid and accept Obama’s word that Obama will do something about it and then do nothing but spend more. All of Obama’s promises come with an expiration date, except for raising your taxes.

TulsAmerican on May 16, 2012 at 6:56 PM

Obama ate dogs, grasshoppers, and snakes in order to take on their characteristics. So, he is now a rattlesnake!! Most Oklahomans know better than trusting a Rattlesnake!! Wake up Senator and reread the parable of the frog and the scorpion!! You are getting ready to be bitten or stung!!

Marco on May 16, 2012 at 9:03 PM

One of my biggest worries is what happens if Romney wins and Republicans control both chambers, do they have the courage to do what it takes to fix the country?

If President Obama is president again, those problems are still there and we have to solve them. He knows that. We’ve had conversations where he’s told me he’ll go much further than anyone believes he’ll go to solve the entitlement problem if he can get the compromise. And I believe him. I believe he would.

I went back and reread the excerpt and the light went on. coburn is essentially endorsing obama. Period. Period. He needs to be marginalized until his reelection comes up and then he needs to be primaried out. He is declaring that he trusts the fascist president more than he trusts the presumptive republican candidate. Why aren’t more “conservative” pundits up in arms about this? This should have set off all kinds of alarms and should be the main story at Fox until coburn resigns.

peacenprosperity on May 17, 2012 at 9:30 AM

there’s a sucker born every minute

chacker on May 20, 2012 at 11:49 AM

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