Open thread: The Nebraska GOP Senate primary

posted at 8:29 pm on May 15, 2012 by Allahpundit

Wish we’d spent more time covering this given how interesting the race has become over the past week or so but here’s an eleventh-hour open thread for those who’ve been following it at other righty sites like Red State. Three candidates: Jon Bruning, the state AG and establishment favorite; Don Stenberg, the state treasurer and initial grassroots favorite; and Deb Fischer, a state senator who’s come on strong lately thanks to Bruning and Stenberg tearing each apart, a timely endorsement from Sarah Palin, and a bit of anti-Bruning Super PAC intervention on her behalf from TD Ameritrade founder Joe Ricketts. He’s not the only outsider chipping in for the anti-Bruning effort either:

Although he didn’t raise as much money as Bruning, Stenberg was able to remain competitive in the money race with the help of third-party groups. The anti-tax group Club for Growth and DeMint’s political committee, the Senate Conservatives Fund, spent more than $2.1 million in the race on Stenberg’s behalf.

However, the $722,000 spent by Club for Growth may have helped Fischer as well. The group spent their money on television advertisements that criticized Bruning on spending and tax issues, without mentioning their support for Stenberg.

It is clear that the money spent by Club for Growth took its toll on Bruning. Several voters, including Tim Michaelsen of Columbus, said they originally supported Bruning but now have their doubts based on the group’s television ads.

According to two new polls, it’s now a two-person race between Bruning and Fischer with Stenberg a distant third but still holding on to 16-18 percent of the vote. One of the mysteries tonight is whether the conservatives who are sticking by him will write him off as a sure loser and back Fischer in hopes of defeating Bruning or whether they’re willing to risk a Bruning victory by going down with the ship. The polls close at 9 p.m. ET but given the tightness of the race, don’t expect results for a few hours. The winner stands a very good chance of bumping off Bob Kerrey for Ben Nelson’s soon-to-be-vacant seat so, yes, this election does matter.

Here’s the Secretary of State’s election results page so that you can follow along. While we wait, via Breitbart.com, enjoy this endorsement of Palin’s hopey-changey critique of Obama from … Noam Chomsky?


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Fischer was on Lincoln TV a few minutes ago. She glossed over Palin’s support, which disappoints me, but to be fair, Gov. Orr deserves credit too. I was happy to cast my vote for Deb.

NebCon on May 15, 2012 at 11:37 PM

Good lord. Hell hath frozen over. Noam Chomsky praised Sarah Palin.

John the Libertarian on May 15, 2012 at 11:38 PM

I watched the one and only Republican debate and wasn’t impressed with Fischer. There is no dynamo personality and glamour that I saw in Fischer. No Sarah Palin/Kristi Noem/Nikki Haley type. Not that she’s not a perfectly attractive woman, just no flash. And I wasn’t impressed with her answers to the questions. Not that they were wrong, but Bruning was by far more polished and engaging.
But what I know about her, her politics, is impressive.
She’s solid. She’s a rancher’s wife from western Nebraska and as a rule those ranch folks are uber conservative because (interesting fact) ranchers are one of the few occupations that get almost NO government money. Sometimes they get a good deal on federal grazing land, but beyond that no farm subsidies, no nothing. It makes them have little regard for any government spending programs. And it makes it hard to get them in line because the government can’t bribe or threaten them.

I have high hopes for that mind set in DC

MAC1000 on May 15, 2012 at 11:38 PM

Flash Note to Deb Fischer:

Call Sarah Palin tonight and say THANK YOU and when are you going to come to Nebraska to stump for me in the general election?

Dack Thrombosis on May 15, 2012 at 11:38 PM

I sure hope Mitt mans up and asks Sarah for her endorsement and asks her to go out and make speeches for him. Part of the deal will have to be that when they are on the campaign trail, they are 1K miles away from each other. She would outdraw him and draw more attention to her than to him.

Mirimichi on May 15, 2012 at 11:35 PM

Don’t confuse what plays well in Nebraska for what will play well in Florida, Ohio, or Nevada. The last time a Democratic presidential candidate carried Nebraska was 1964.

amerpundit on May 15, 2012 at 11:38 PM

. She would outdraw him and draw more attention to her than to him.

Mirimichi on May 15, 2012 at 11:35 PM

Which is the main reason Mitt’s team is not reaching out to Palin. they know her pull and are afraid that Mitt will be upstaged by Palin like McCain was. So instead they try to rewrite the 2008 elections and bad mouth her.

sad really

unseen on May 15, 2012 at 11:38 PM

Tell us again mittwits why Mitt and his team is not reaching out to Gov Palin to help in defeating Obama?

That’s an easy one. Because those who are inclined to vote for Obama are not going to be swayed by Palin. Those who would be swayed by Sarah Palin are already voting for Romney.

There are very few “undecided” voters at this point for the Presidential spot in the ticket.

crosspatch on May 15, 2012 at 11:39 PM

NebCon on May 15, 2012 at 11:37 PM

They are all like that, aren’t they? At least she has no danger in embracing Palin in Nebraska or so I thought. Sigh.

promachus on May 15, 2012 at 11:39 PM

Fischer was on Lincoln TV a few minutes ago. She glossed over Palin’s support, which disappoints me, but to be fair, Gov. Orr deserves credit too. I was happy to cast my vote for Deb.

NebCon on May 15, 2012 at 11:37 PM

Kinda makes sense though since she gave props to Fortenberry’s endorsement. That’s their Congresscritter out there.

Dack Thrombosis on May 15, 2012 at 11:39 PM

There are no run-offs here.

Dack Thrombosis on May 15, 2012 at 11:34 PM

Thanks, and what will that mean in the general? Will she get a good turnout from the Bruning and Stenberg crowds? Don’t even know who the D nominee will be, last I heard Bob Kerry was thinking about it, but whomever it is, will she be able to carry the state?

TXUS on May 15, 2012 at 11:39 PM

Senate Results
Republicans
Updated: 10:31 pm
****************

Jon Bruning 61,489
Sharyn Elander 1,140
Deb Fischer 69,018
Pat Flynn 4,749
Don Stenberg 31,966
Spencer Zimmerman 1,429

1,554 of 1,785 precincts reporting
==================================

Read more: http://journalstar.com/elections/results/#ixzz1v05UJuqf

canopfor on May 15, 2012 at 11:39 PM

Go Sarah. I don’t know why people continue to think the tea partiers are necessarily conservative. They’re just folks fed up with taxes, to whit their endorsements of the other two contenders. Anyhoo, as long as it’s someone meeting my 80% threshold, it’s all good.

AH_C on May 15, 2012 at 11:39 PM

Don’t confuse what plays well in Nebraska for what will play well in Florida, Ohio, or Nevada. The last time a Democratic presidential candidate carried Nebraska was 1964.

amerpundit on May 15, 2012 at 11:38 PM

don’t confuse what plays well in NY and NJ as what plays well in flyover country. Last I looked Mitt needs those states not Ny and NJ nor DC.

unseen on May 15, 2012 at 11:40 PM

Mrs. Palin needs to endorse Orrin Hatch’s opponent. I wish I could remember (and spell!) his name.

SouthernGent on May 15, 2012 at 11:21 PM

A businessman and former state senator, Dan Liljenquist, got just under 41 percent.

Schadenfreude on May 15, 2012 at 11:40 PM

Tea Party Express endorsed Bruning.

NoNails on May 15, 2012 at 11:30 PM

Most recent poll found Bruning leading with Tea Party vote by 3 percent. Tea Party Express backed Bruning, too.

amerpundit on May 15, 2012 at 11:34 PM

…and members always toe the line?…not in Michigan…is it different there?

KOOLAID2 on May 15, 2012 at 11:41 PM

. Those who would be swayed by Sarah Palin are already voting for Romney.

There are very few “undecided” voters at this point for the Presidential spot in the ticket.

crosspatch on May 15, 2012 at 11:39 PM

After 2012, you are going to find out how true that is.Don’t come complaining to us. We already warned you.

promachus on May 15, 2012 at 11:41 PM

Crap,where did the other hour go!!

Philip_Elliott tweeted:
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OMAHA, Neb. (AP) _ Neb. lawmaker Fischer wins GOP Senate nomination; will face ex-Sen. Kerrey in high-stakes race.

Submitted 25 mins ago from twitter.com/Philip_Elliott
http://www.breakingnews.com/
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canopfor on May 15, 2012 at 11:42 PM

unseen on May 15, 2012 at 11:40 PM

…good to see you!

KOOLAID2 on May 15, 2012 at 11:42 PM

Deb Fischer, a state senator for only a few years, beats the sitting Attorney General and the Secretary of State. Both who have run statewide before. Further, when Fischer sought out Gov. Palin’s & todd’s endorsement she was 16 points behind in the polls and early voting already had begun. Finally, she had no money.

With only the Palin backing, the backing of Cubs owner Ricketts and the endorsement of Fmr. Neb. Gove orr she won.

Simply amazing!

Danielvito on May 15, 2012 at 11:42 PM

don’t confuse what plays well in NY and NJ as what plays well in flyover country. Last I looked Mitt needs those states not Ny and NJ nor DC.

unseen on May 15, 2012 at 11:40 PM

He needs Florida, Ohio, Virginia, North Carolina, Nevada, New Mexico — states like that. States that won’t be swayed by Palin.

Because she helped swing a Republican primary in a red state doesn’t mean she plays well in purple states in the general.

People who will be swayed by Palin are already going to vote for Romney.

amerpundit on May 15, 2012 at 11:42 PM

Those who would be swayed by Sarah Palin are already voting for Romney.

There are very few “undecided” voters at this point for the Presidential spot in the ticket.

crosspatch on May 15, 2012 at 11:39 PM

Hate to break this too you but a very big group of those people will be sitting home come NOV instead of voting for liberal Mitt.

unseen on May 15, 2012 at 11:42 PM

Bruning supported Holder and STILL does. GOODBYE SCUMBAG.

jubalearly on May 15, 2012 at 11:43 PM

Which is the main reason Mitt’s team is not reaching out to Palin. they know her pull and are afraid that Mitt will be upstaged by Palin like McCain was. So instead they try to rewrite the 2008 elections and bad mouth her.

sad really

unseen on May 15, 2012 at 11:38 PM

What?

These Palin fanatics are completely crazy. I’ve never seen these degrees of paranoia. It’s like they live in a fictional world. They may be worse than Paulites, to be honest.

joana on May 15, 2012 at 11:43 PM

COMING SOON to a State near you………………..

Razor Sharp Mama Grizzly Bear Claws!!

canopfor on May 15, 2012 at 11:43 PM

joana on May 15, 2012 at 11:27 PM

Some tea partiers were backing Fischer. Anyway, the race as it unfolded became a choice between Bruning (establishment) or Not-Bruning (anti-establishment). So while Fischer isn’t a gold-plated tea party candidate she is benefiting from tea party sentiment among NE GOP primary voters.

From Fischer’s policy platform:

5. Audit the Federal Reserve. The Federal Reserve sets the monetary policy of the United States. This agency may be one of the most powerful federal agencies and it is one of the least accountable.

Clearly, she’s another Olympia Snowe. /sarc

Robert_Paulson on May 15, 2012 at 11:44 PM

I’m just thrilled that Stenberg isn’t going to be the nominee. All of the cheerleading from RedState.com notwithstanding, the guy is a reliable loser. His last losses brought us Chuck Hagel and Ben Nelson.

HuskerNate on May 15, 2012 at 11:45 PM

Didn’t read any comments yet… this has nothing to do with Palin and everything to do with Ricketts’ SuperPAC ads of the last few weeks, and as was mentioned, Bruning and Stenberg foolishly eating their own. We’ll see if a state senator from Valentine, in a county larger than Delaware, but with 10x as many cattle as people in it, can withstand the barrage of awful garbage coming her way thanks to Dems’ extreme interest in returning Benedict Nelson’s seat to old “I’m soooo glad to be back home in Nebraska Bob Kerrey. (I hope she can…)

Cornhusker on May 15, 2012 at 11:45 PM

Most recent poll found Bruning leading with Tea Party vote by 3 percent. Tea Party Express backed Bruning, too.

amerpundit on May 15, 2012 at 11:34 PM

Er, ‘the most recent poll’ was tonight.

socalcon on May 15, 2012 at 11:45 PM

Thanks, and what will that mean in the general? Will she get a good turnout from the Bruning and Stenberg crowds? Don’t even know who the D nominee will be, last I heard Bob Kerry was thinking about it, but whomever it is, will she be able to carry the state?

TXUS on May 15, 2012 at 11:39 PM

I can’t imagine any of the Bruning or Stenberg folks turning away from Fischer. The thing about Deb is that she ran a pretty clean race where she didn’t attack the other candidates. I think almost all of them will coalesce behind Deb.

Bobby Kerry didn’t just think about it, he ran for it and won the Dem primary tonight by a landslide. It’s Fischer and Kerry in the general. Give serious thought about donating a few bucks to Fischer.

I think Deb should hit Bobby on the fact that he hasn’t lived here for over a decade. Don’t outright call him a carpetbagger, but she should heavily insinuate it!

Dack Thrombosis on May 15, 2012 at 11:46 PM

Tea Party Express endorsed Bruning.

NoNails on May 15, 2012 at 11:30 PM

Most recent poll found Bruning leading with Tea Party vote by 3 percent. Tea Party Express backed Bruning, too.

amerpundit on May 15, 2012 at 11:34 PM

…and members always toe the line?…not in Michigan…is it different there?

KOOLAID2 on May 15, 2012 at 11:41 PM

Nobody cares about the Tea Party endorsements. Or for that matter, Palin endorsements, outside of her most fanatical followers. Most people don’t really care for endorsements.

Again, Fischer was the moderate in the race. It’s completely bizarre to see the ABRtards, “TruCon”, crazy heads here commemorating her victory. Actually I’m going to screencap this, it’ll be worth a few laughs in the next 6 years.

joana on May 15, 2012 at 11:46 PM

Hate to break this too you but a very big group of those people will be sitting home come NOV instead of voting for liberal Mitt.

unseen on May 15, 2012 at 11:42 PM

And all 12 of them will be sorely missed on election day.

amerpundit on May 15, 2012 at 11:46 PM

The Tea Party Express endorsed Bruning and Stenberg got the support of the local Tea Party.

joana on May 15, 2012 at 11:29 PM

Even so, I think Sarah Palin is more associated with the Tea Party. I don’t know much about Bruning or Stenberg but from what I’ve read. It would be interesting to know why the Tea Party Express & the local T.P. endorsed them instead of Fischer.

bluefox on May 15, 2012 at 11:47 PM

Dem. Peter DeFazio wins U.S. House Rep. race (Dist. 4)

- @Oregonian

Submitted 1 min ago
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canopfor on May 15, 2012 at 11:47 PM

Fake tea party groups. Diickwad Army’s Freedomworks went with Stenberg
Tea Pary Express along with Santorum chose hot-head Bruning
DeMint is the king maker HAHAHAHAHA!
Palin is still the most potent force in the Republican Party.
As for Fischer, she looks pretty conservative to me:

P100% Pro-Life Voting Record in Nebraska Unicameral
Signed AFP No Climate Tax Pledge
Signed Let Freedom Ring’s Cut, Cap and Balance Pledge
Supports a balanced budget amendment
Opposed debt-ceiling compromise deal
100% NFIB rating in Nebraska Unicameral
Opposes amnesty and benefits for illegal aliens
Signed ATR Taxpayer Protection Pledge
Opposes the bailouts
Supports the federal marriage amendment
Supports repealing Obamacare
Opposes earmarks
Opposes cap-and-trade
A+ NRA rating in Nebraska Unicameral

AmeriCuda on May 15, 2012 at 11:47 PM

Robert_Paulson on May 15, 2012 at 11:44 PM
</blockquote


Well, she is. I still donated to her: they’re still all pretty conservative
. Brunning radiates that used car salesman vibe, the kind of senator that will grandstand but not do anything productive in the senate. A John Thune type. Stenberg is too much of a loose cannon.

Fischer will probably be a backbencher but a solid one. Plus, we need more GOP women in the Hill.

joana on May 15, 2012 at 11:35 PM

Okay, what part of my post you didn’t understand? Please, be precise.

joana on May 15, 2012 at 11:47 PM

What?

These Palin fanatics are completely crazy. I’ve never seen these degrees of paranoia. It’s like they live in a fictional world. They may be worse than Paulites, to be honest.

joana on May 15, 2012 at 11:43 PM

We’re here, be clear, get used to it..:)

idesign on May 15, 2012 at 11:48 PM

Er, ‘the most recent poll’ was tonight.

socalcon on May 15, 2012 at 11:45 PM

Most recent poll with breakdowns of demographics. Tonight’s results from the entire party don’t indicate which way Tea Partiers specifically went. Unless I missed some exit polling.

amerpundit on May 15, 2012 at 11:48 PM

There are no run-offs here.

Dack Thrombosis on May 15, 2012 at 11:34 PM

Winner-take-all, Fischer goes against doofus Kerrey. Tea Parties both backed the frontrunner and he lost. Palin’s late endorsement tabs the winner.

Interesting. She’s solid on guns, abortion (not a purist, but strong), was a proponent of lower property taxes, but wasn’t calling for any specific state spending cuts — all according to an on-the-issues site.

Good luck, Senator.

Jaibones on May 15, 2012 at 11:48 PM

TXUS,

Fischer should roll in November. She has no skeletons, and no one here has forgotten what Nelson did. Deb owns the west, but she actually grew up here in Lincoln. She is a solid conservative. I was on board from the beginning.

NebCon on May 15, 2012 at 11:48 PM

Even so, I think Sarah Palin is more associated with the Tea Party. I don’t know much about Bruning or Stenberg but from what I’ve read. It would be interesting to know why the Tea Party Express & the local T.P. endorsed them instead of Fischer.

bluefox on May 15, 2012 at 11:47 PM

Because they’re more conservative than Fischer. Especially Stenberg, who is the typical Tea Party insurgent candidate.

Fischer has a fairly moderate voting record for a Nebraska republican.

joana on May 15, 2012 at 11:48 PM

Don’t confuse what plays well in Nebraska for what will play well in Florida, Ohio, or Nevada. The last time a Democratic presidential candidate carried Nebraska was 1964.

amerpundit on May 15, 2012 at 11:38 PM

Oh, I’m not. Remember that campaign stop in FL in that retirement, golfing community, (sorry, forgot the name) that drew thousands of people? Ohio, I think John Kaisac (sp) would love to be on a stage with her. Nevada, remember Searchlight? Harry Reid’s hometown? Yeah, she will get the people out.

Mirimichi on May 15, 2012 at 11:49 PM

Just imagine the GOPe seething in their meltdown if Fischer pulls this out with Palin’s backing.

Every small to large incremental step to pull and keep the GOP to the rights counts.

We need to keep the gradual transformation of the GOP going.

It will take a long time but we are at least making a difference.

KirknBurker on May 15, 2012 at 11:49 PM

Don’t even know who the D nominee will be, last I heard Bob Kerry was thinking about it, but whomever it is, will she be able to carry the state?

TXUS on May 15, 2012 at 11:39 PM

He’s already running TV ads. He came back because he cares! There is probably still a clan of Kerry groupies, but, I suspect his ten year absence coupled with the yet unused barrels of tar and sacks of feathers inventoried for Ben, indicate his donk glitter will be tarnished.

a capella on May 15, 2012 at 11:49 PM

AmeriCuda on May 15, 2012 at 11:47 PM

Wow…solid.

Jaibones on May 15, 2012 at 11:50 PM

Weren’t the smart people saying that Palin would to be gone after like 15 minutes or something. What happened?

.

BoxHead1 on May 15, 2012 at 11:50 PM

He needs Florida, Ohio, Virginia, North Carolina, Nevada, New Mexico — states like that. States that won’t be swayed by Palin.

Because she helped swing a Republican primary in a red state doesn’t mean she plays well in purple states in the general.

People who will be swayed by Palin are already going to vote for Romney.
amerpundit on May 15, 2012 at 11:42 PM

Palin doesn’t play well in NC? VA? NV? NM? Talk to the NM gov who won her election with Palin’s strong endorsement in 2010. Oh yeah and talk to Congresswoman Ellmers from NC–2 who beat Ethridge thanks in large part to Palin’s endrosement and support and many others in those states you named that won in 2010 with Palin’s help. the only states Palin doesn’t play well in are deep blue states. And even in places like upstate NY and downtown Boston thousands showed up to see her give a speech.

As far as those that can be swayed already going to vote for Mitt. ROFL. Sure we all. That is the most idiotic thing I think I have heard tonight

unseen on May 15, 2012 at 11:50 PM

I don’t know Fischer from the man in the moon, but her position statements on her sire seem to be conservative. IDK. I’m just glad Bruning lost. The establishment will be beaten!!

jubalearly on May 15, 2012 at 11:50 PM

amerpundit on May 15, 2012 at 11:42 PM

Last I checked Palin also swayed elections in swing state of New Mexico for Martinez, For senate in New Hampshire, For attorney Geneneral in Florida, for Lt. Gov. in Wisconsin etc…

Danielvito on May 15, 2012 at 11:50 PM

Didn’t read any comments yet…and as was mentioned,…

Cornhusker on May 15, 2012 at 11:45 PM

Sure…

Gohawgs on May 15, 2012 at 11:51 PM

unseen on May 15, 2012 at 11:50 PM

Don’t forget what Mrs. Palin did for 2 in South Carolina: Nikki Haley and Tim Scott. Despite media reports to the contrary, Nikki Haley is doing just fine. Tim Scott is my representative, and I couldn’t be more proud.

SouthernGent on May 15, 2012 at 11:55 PM

GOVERNOR SARAH AND TODD PALIN ENDORSE DEB FISCHER FOR U.S. SENATE
By Aaron

GOVERNOR SARAH AND TODD PALIN ENDORSE DEB FISCHER FOR U.S. SENATE

Lincoln, NE – Today, Senator Deb Fischer, a Republican candidate for U.S. Senate in Nebraska, announced that she has been endorsed by former Alaska Governor and Vice Presidential Candidate Sarah Palin and her husband Todd Palin.

“I’m incredibly honored to receive the endorsement of Governor Sarah Palin and Todd Palin. I greatly admire their willingness to stand on conservative principle and their resolve in standing up to the political establishment,” said Senator Deb Fischer.

“Our campaign is grassroots powered and focused on conservative policy solutions that will change the course of this nation. I’m a wife, mother, rancher, small business owner, and citizen legislator, not a career politician. To change Washington, we need to send a different type of person there. That’s why I’m running for U.S. Senate.”

At the onset of the campaign, Deb Fischer shared her story, her passion and and beliefs with Governor Palin and requested her support. Below is part of Senator Fischer’s note:

I am writing to you as both a fan of your strong, conservative principles and as a fellow female Republican. I have watched your career with respect as you take on tough issues, all while raising a family and serving your great state. Your career has inspired me and so many other female politicians who believe principles should be above politics.

Yesterday, Governor Palin responded with the following note:

Deb – thank you for your note. We have been watching your race closely. Your efforts remind us of those our family put forth for Sarah’s races here in Alaska. Winning over voters through personal interactions is the way to go. People are tired of outside interests spending millions of dollars in political attack ads. We’re glad to see your grassroots efforts paying off!

We admire your conservative principles and know that you will not go to Washington to amass great wealth or power. You will go to Washington to serve the people of Nebraska, protect our Constitution and work for common sense solutions to help restore America. We are happy to support you and have asked SarahPAC to send a financial contribution to your campaign.

Good luck next Tuesday – the Palins are in your corner.

http://www.debfischer2012.com/

canopfor on May 15, 2012 at 11:56 PM

HuskerNate on May 15, 2012 at 11:45 PM

Amen, brother. Stenberg is the Roland Burris of Neb. He runs for everything.

NebCon on May 15, 2012 at 11:57 PM

joana on May 15, 2012 at 11:48 PM

Romneycare needs someone to take his dog for a care ride, I nominate you. Remember to put it on top of the car, drive 65 MPH for 12 hours!

Danielvito on May 15, 2012 at 11:57 PM

What Palin is doing is working the downticket races regardless of what the Romney Campaign decides to do or not do. She knows the Romney people despise her, influenced as they are by the people who worked in the Bush White House, so she’s not waiting around for a phone call from Team Seamus.

This makes two in a row. Mourdock was a rout, and he thanked Palin. Fischer thanked Palin too but is quickly pivoting to her race against Bob Kerry, who is going to run as a Centrist, Clinton Democrat. This will be a tough race for her, but she can do it. People are exhausted by the Democrats in power, and they are ready for a turnover to the Republicans, and I think Palin senses that.

What I also think is that Palin knows that America wants a return to Reagan and what he stood for without a full turnover to Paul’s radicalism. The Pauls are refreshing for the Party, as they force the Conservative Movement to address First Principles like Gold, currency devaluation and the Constitution, but will ultimately be absorbed by the Party. In the end, when you do politics, you have to compromise. That’s why Sarah’s out there working for these Reagan people like Teddy Cruz and Richard Mourdock. They are Reagan Wing people who can win running as principled, but pragmatic, conservatives. The Paultards still have way too much of Lenin banging the rails of the caboose at Finland Station for too many peoples’ tastes.

In the end, she won’t have to genuflect to Team Rombot. Her game is to get the Leader’s gavel into Mitch McConnell’s hand. Romney should be shrewd enough to see that that should be part of his game, too. At some point, I think he’ll see that as well, and cut out all the sniping at Palin.

victor82 on May 15, 2012 at 11:58 PM

Last I checked Palin also swayed elections in swing state of New Mexico for Martinez, For senate in New Hampshire, For attorney Geneneral in Florida, for Lt. Gov. in Wisconsin etc…

Danielvito on May 15, 2012 at 11:50 PM

In Republican primaries.

Palin doesn’t play well in NC? VA? NV? NM?

In a general election to win over Independents? No.

Talk to the NM gov who won her election with Palin’s strong endorsement in 2010.

Again, Republican primary. Oh yeah and talk to Congresswoman Ellmers from NC–2 who beat Ethridge thanks in large part to Palin’s endrosement

And the fact he voted for ObamaCare. And he was caught assaulting a reporter. And yet he still lost by less than 1,500 votes.

and support and many others in those states you named that won in 2010 with Palin’s help. the only states Palin doesn’t play well in are deep blue states. And even in places like upstate NY and downtown Boston thousands showed up to see her give a speech.

And? They’re heavily outnumbered by the hundreds of thousands who will vote for Obama. That tells me she plays well with the relatively few number of Republicans in that area — not that she’s going to swing Independents.

As far as those that can be swayed already going to vote for Mitt. ROFL. Sure we all. That is the most idiotic thing I think I have heard tonight

unseen on May 15, 2012 at 11:50 PM

Whatever. There’s a little too much delusion in here. Same delusion witnessed when we were told Fred Thompson was going to wing the GOP primary, Palin would drag McCain to victory in November, and Sharron Angle totally had the election won.

amerpundit on May 15, 2012 at 11:58 PM

Deb’s Record
Deb Fischer – Conservative Record
*********************************

Deb Fischer – Agriculture Record
*********************************

http://www.debfischer2012.com/debs-record/

canopfor on May 15, 2012 at 11:58 PM

CUDA

Metro on May 15, 2012 at 11:59 PM

Fischer has a fairly moderate voting record for a Nebraska republican.

joana on May 15, 2012 at 11:48 PM

She is liked because she is steady, trustworthy, and has a good record. People out here aren’t going to just automatically check the box for the most conservative candidate. She earned this.

a capella on May 16, 2012 at 12:00 AM

And all 12 of them will be sorely missed on election day.

amerpundit on May 15, 2012 at 11:46 PM

oh you mean that 35% of the NC gop who bothered to show up (turnout was only 35% of eligible voters) who didn’t vote for Mitt even with him being the only one left on the ballot on primary day. Didn’t know 12 people =35% of the NC gop primary voters. yeah mitt doesn’t need my vote he has this in the bag.

unseen on May 16, 2012 at 12:00 AM

I swear, sometimes I feel like I’m living a Monty Python movie and the Black Knight is telling me it’s just a flesh wound. I think I gotta take a break for a while.

amerpundit on May 16, 2012 at 12:00 AM

All right, who let Jailbreak back in?

victor82 on May 16, 2012 at 12:00 AM

amerpundit on May 15, 2012 at 11:42 PM

Last I checked Palin also swayed elections in swing state of New Mexico for Martinez, For senate in New Hampshire, For attorney Geneneral in Florida, for Lt. Gov. in Wisconsin etc…

Danielvito on May 15, 2012 at 11:50 PM

No, she might sway GOP primaries. Not elections in swing states.

It’s amazing so many people here can’t tell the difference.

And frankly, Palin is unimportant in most of those races. I mean, she endorsed Fischer when she was gaining momentum and on her way up. Palin does this frequently.

Those who want her to endorse Hatch opponent: hope for a couple of polls showing Liljenquist gaining ground – very close or already ahead. Otherwise, Palin will never endorse.

joana on May 16, 2012 at 12:01 AM

Fischer was on Lincoln TV a few minutes ago. She glossed over Palin’s support, which disappoints me, but to be fair, Gov. Orr deserves credit too. I was happy to cast my vote for Deb.

NebCon on May 15, 2012 at 11:37 PM

I’m sure she wouldn’t have overlooked Palin on purpose, since she contacted Palin herself and requested her support.

bluefox on May 16, 2012 at 12:01 AM

AmeriCuda on May 15, 2012 at 11:47 PM

Good job on that. Yeah, I did more research after Sarah endorsed and decided to vote for Deb. I was leaning towards Stenberg because I thought he did such a good job as Attorney General in the 1990s. But he’s run for so many offices since then that I was reluctant to pull the trigger. I’m glad Palin endorsed and I did the research. I think she’ll do a good job.

Dack Thrombosis on May 16, 2012 at 12:01 AM

oh you mean that 35% of the NC gop who bothered to show up (turnout was only 35% of eligible voters) who didn’t vote for Mitt even with him being the only one left on the ballot on primary day. Didn’t know 12 people =35% of the NC gop primary voters. yeah mitt doesn’t need my vote he has this in the bag.

unseen on May 16, 2012 at 12:00 AM

Wow, when a primary no longer mattered people acted like it didn’t matter. That totally ruins my hypothesis that when we get to an election that matters people will act like it matters.

Yeah, I’m definitely gonna take take that break now.

amerpundit on May 16, 2012 at 12:02 AM

Sharron Angle totally had the election won.

amerpundit on May 15, 2012 at 11:58 PM

Wasn’t Sharron ANgle endorsed by Romney? He should take the blame for that one no since Palin never endorsed her.

promachus on May 16, 2012 at 12:04 AM

What Palin is doing is working the downticket races regardless of what the Romney Campaign decides to do or not do. She knows the Romney people despise her, influenced as they are by the people who worked in the Bush White House, so she’s not waiting around for a phone call from Team Seamus.

This makes two in a row. Mourdock was a rout, and he thanked Palin. Fischer thanked Palin too but is quickly pivoting to her race against Bob Kerry, who is going to run as a Centrist, Clinton Democrat. This will be a tough race for her, but she can do it. People are exhausted by the Democrats in power, and they are ready for a turnover to the Republicans, and I think Palin senses that.

What I also think is that Palin knows that America wants a return to Reagan and what he stood for without a full turnover to Paul’s radicalism. The Pauls are refreshing for the Party, as they force the Conservative Movement to address First Principles like Gold, currency devaluation and the Constitution, but will ultimately be absorbed by the Party. In the end, when you do politics, you have to compromise. That’s why Sarah’s out there working for these Reagan people like Teddy Cruz and Richard Mourdock. They are Reagan Wing people who can win running as principled, but pragmatic, conservatives. The Paultards still have way too much of Lenin banging the rails of the caboose at Finland Station for too many peoples’ tastes.

In the end, she won’t have to genuflect to Team Rombot. Her game is to get the Leader’s gavel into Mitch McConnell’s hand. Romney should be shrewd enough to see that that should be part of his game, too. At some point, I think he’ll see that as well, and cut out all the sniping at Palin.

victor82 on May 15, 2012 at 11:58 PM

The crazy: living in a world where Romney is “sniping at Palin”.

Has Romney or his campaign even mentioned Palin?

These twats need medical care.

joana on May 16, 2012 at 12:05 AM

The Tea Party Express endorsed Bruning and Stenberg got the support of the local Tea Party.

joana on May 15, 2012 at 11:29 PM

And most Stenberg supporters stated that Fischer is more conservative than Bruning. TPE endorsed before Fischer had even entered. The jumped the gun on their endorsement do a desire to remove Nelson, who had not announced he was retiring at the time. Fischer was, overall, considered more conservative than Bruning, though less so than Stenberg.

topdawg on May 16, 2012 at 12:05 AM

I can’t imagine any of the Bruning or Stenberg folks turning away from Fischer. The thing about Deb is that she ran a pretty clean race where she didn’t attack the other candidates. I think almost all of them will coalesce behind Deb.

Bobby Kerry didn’t just think about it, he ran for it and won the Dem primary tonight by a landslide. It’s Fischer and Kerry in the general. Give serious thought about donating a few bucks to Fischer.

I think Deb should hit Bobby on the fact that he hasn’t lived here for over a decade. Don’t outright call him a carpetbagger, but she should heavily insinuate it!

Dack Thrombosis on May 15, 2012 at 11:46 PM

While Bob Kerry is one of the few Dems I’d return a call from, given his real heroism in real war, I will be sending more than a few bucks to her, since God love him, he’ll vote with the Dems at least 80% of the time, and country to me right now is far more important than old acquaintances.

TXUS on May 16, 2012 at 12:05 AM

amerpundit on May 16, 2012 at 12:02 AM

If so, why is Romney getting less votes than Mccain in the same states?

promachus on May 16, 2012 at 12:06 AM

He’s already running TV ads. He came back because he cares! There is probably still a clan of Kerry groupies, but, I suspect his ten year absence coupled with the yet unused barrels of tar and sacks of feathers inventoried for Ben, indicate his donk glitter will be tarnished.

a capella on May 15, 2012 at 11:49 PM

You’re seeing the same TV ads I’m seeing! He’s a Vietnam vet! He cares! Blah, blah, blah! Yeah, I’m proud of him for serving in Vietnam and the injury he suffered, but HE HASN’T LIVED HERE FOR TEN YEARS! You should actually, you know, live in the state you want to represent in Congress.

Right, Dick Lugar?

Dack Thrombosis on May 16, 2012 at 12:06 AM

“Palin is irrelevant” used to be the hater refrain.
Now it’s “Palin is relevant everywhere but NY,NJ and DC”. The haters are mellowing with age.

BoxHead1 on May 16, 2012 at 12:06 AM

Last I checked Palin also swayed elections in swing state of New Mexico for Martinez, For senate in New Hampshire, For attorney Geneneral in Florida, for Lt. Gov. in Wisconsin etc…

Danielvito on May 15, 2012 at 11:50 PM

In Republican primaries.

amerpundit on May 15, 2012 at 11:58 PM

You must be working for Karl Rove, All the candidates I mentioned above backed by Palin in swing state won the primaries AND THE GENERAL ELECTIONS.

Danielvito on May 16, 2012 at 12:07 AM

Isn’t it funny how every time one of Palin’s candidates wins an election, people show up to try and convince conservatives how unimportant Palin was to the actual outcome of the race?

They did this all through 2010. Watching these Rombot hacks go through this same ritual is like watching Wyle E. Coyote build a trap for the Roadrunner with a box full of dynamite.

You just know how it’s going to end.

victor82 on May 16, 2012 at 12:07 AM

Wasn’t Sharron ANgle endorsed by Romney? He should take the blame for that one no since Palin never endorsed her.

promachus on May 16, 2012 at 12:04 AM

Hmm, both Palin and Romney endorsed Angle for the general:
http://www.alan.com/2010/08/17/sarah-palin-endorses-sharron-angle/

Oh, and if Palin had endorsed Angle in the general, I’m sure Angle would have won the nomination because of Palin endorsement. Even though she won without it. But we all know the only reason Fischer won was because of Palin endorsement, right?

joana on May 16, 2012 at 12:07 AM

amerpundit on May 16, 2012 at 12:02 AM

If Palin couldn’t drag Mccain across who will drag Rmoney across the finish line? Given that Rmoney is getting less votes than Mccain.

promachus on May 16, 2012 at 12:07 AM

While Bob Kerry is one of the few Dems I’d return a call from, given his real heroism in real war, I will be sending more than a few bucks to her, since God love him, he’ll vote with the Dems at least 80% of the time, and country to me right now is far more important than old acquaintances.

TXUS on May 16, 2012 at 12:05 AM

From your name, I’m assuming you live in Texas? Are you supporting Cruz? Should I send $20 to Cruz if you send $20 to Fischer?

(It’s only $20 because I’m poor due to Barry)

Dack Thrombosis on May 16, 2012 at 12:07 AM

Palin would drag McCain to victory in November, and Sharron Angle totally had the election won.

amerpundit on May 15, 2012 at 11:58 PM

She would have, but the COB (Cranky Old Bastard) suspended his campaign and went to D.C. when TARP was being tossed out there as the fix for the economy. That is when the poll numbers changed and couldn’t get them back.

Mirimichi on May 16, 2012 at 12:07 AM

Nobody cares about the Tea Party endorsements. Or for that matter, Palin endorsements, outside of her most fanatical followers. Most people don’t really care for endorsements.

Again, Fischer was the moderate in the race. It’s completely bizarre to see the ABRtards, “TruCon”, crazy heads here commemorating her victory. Actually I’m going to screencap this, it’ll be worth a few laughs in the next 6 years.

joana on May 15, 2012 at 11:46 PM

Why all the name calling? I have not read all the comments but it seems you wanted someone else in the race besides Fischer because she was a moderate or because she was endorsed by Palin? Wouldn’t that make you a ABDtard? Seems to me there is no need to keep antagonizing if your ultimate goal is to beat Obama in November like we all should be working for!

bluemarlin on May 16, 2012 at 12:08 AM

Danielvito on May 16, 2012 at 12:07 AM

Some like Ellmers won without any backing from RNC. Purely on Palin endorsement.

promachus on May 16, 2012 at 12:09 AM

In Republican primaries.

yeah because they didn’t go on and win the general /

And the fact he voted for ObamaCare. And he was caught assaulting a reporter. And yet he still lost by less than 1,500 votes.

NC-2 has been in dem hands since time began. Without Palin’s help it still would be. downplay it how you wish it doesn’t change the fact the the GOp carried that district without any help watsoever by the DC gop party who thought it was a safe dem seat and would invest any time nor money in the race.

And? They’re heavily outnumbered by the hundreds of thousands who will vote for Obama. That tells me she plays well with the relatively few number of Republicans in that area — not that she’s going to swing Independents.

funny but the crowd in boston on a weekday afternoon for Palin was bigger than the crowd Obama, Frank, and the dem MASS gov brought out on a weekend.

and if the GOp has any chance in NY, PA, OH they will need Reagan dems to cross over. not independents.

Palin would drag McCain to victory in November, and Sharron Angle totally had the election won.

amerpundit on May 15, 2012 at 11:58 PM

McCain lost the race the day he supported TARP and suspended his campaign.

unseen on May 16, 2012 at 12:09 AM

joana on May 16, 2012 at 12:01 AM

Want to know how powerful Palin is, one statement from her that she’s not voting for Romneycare and leaving the presidential pick blank and your leftist won’t get 40% of the vote.

Danielvito on May 16, 2012 at 12:09 AM

We’re here, be clear, get used to it..:)

idesign on May 15, 2012 at 11:48 PM

tencole on May 16, 2012 at 12:09 AM

Hate to break this too you but a very big group of those people will be sitting home come NOV instead of voting for liberal Mitt.

unseen on May 15, 2012 at 11:42 PM

topdawg on May 16, 2012 at 12:10 AM

Yep

topdawg on May 16, 2012 at 12:10 AM

TXUS,

Fischer should roll in November. She has no skeletons, and no one here has forgotten what Nelson did. Deb owns the west, but she actually grew up here in Lincoln. She is a solid conservative. I was on board from the beginning.

NebCon on May 15, 2012 at 11:48 PM

Didn’t know of her Lincoln roots, that’s great news, will help mitigate the somewhat liberal bent there. What does she look like in Omaha?

TXUS on May 16, 2012 at 12:11 AM

SarahNet Radio
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This week on The Palin Update with Kevin Scholla:
Sunday, 13 May 2012 08:03
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Fresh off a successful RINO hunt in Indiana, Sarah Palin flexes her endorsement muscles once again. After helping Richard Mourdock topple Obama’s favorite Republican in the Hoosier State, Governor Palin hopes to give a boost to two other U.S. Senate hopefuls, Nebraska’s Deb Fischer and Ted Cruz of Texas! Fischer is Kevin’s special guest today. She talks about the Palin endorsement impact and her GOP race. Also, Governor Palin delivers the keynote speech at the annual SALT conference in Las Vegas. Listen Now!
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http://www.sarahnet.net/sarahnet-radio/6712-scholla-fischer.html

canopfor on May 16, 2012 at 12:11 AM

Nobody cares about the Tea Party endorsements. Or for that matter, Palin endorsements, outside of her most fanatical followers. Most people don’t really care for endorsements.

…Actually I’m going to screencap this, it’ll be worth a few laughs in the next 6 years.

joana on May 15, 2012 at 11:46 PM

And frankly, Palin is unimportant in most of those races. I mean, she endorsed Fischer when she was gaining momentum and on her way up. Palin does this frequently.

joana on May 16, 2012 at 12:01 AM

Screencap this:

State Sen. Deb Fischer rode a wave of rural support to capture an upset victory for the Republican nomination for the Senate over her better-known opponents, Attorney General Jon Bruning and State Treasurer Don Stenberg.

Fischer’s momentum was obvious in the last week as she picked up support from former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, 1st District Rep. Jeff Fortenberry and a significant infusion of cash.

Fischer called herself an underdog in her race against two statewide office holders, Attorney General Jon Bruning and Treasurer Don Stenberg. But a flurry of late spending and endorsements injected some uncertainty into the race, which was closely watched because it represents one of the GOP’s best chances of winning a seat.

Although Fischer had long been seen as a likely also-ran, every day she has seemed to bring in another endorsement. Last week it was 2008 vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin and Nebraska U.S. Rep. Jeff Fortenberry. On Monday it was former presidential candidate Herman Cain.

Flora Duh on May 16, 2012 at 12:12 AM

Hate to break this too you but a very big group of those people will be sitting home come NOV instead of voting for liberal Mitt.

unseen on May 15, 2012 at 11:42 PM

As big as the group that had the earthquake in Iowa?

alchemist19 on May 16, 2012 at 12:12 AM

joana on May 16, 2012 at 12:07 AM

Been taking my time to read your comments. Jesus H. Christ, woman, you are a comic. Alan Colmes? That is your source? Wow! Cochi loco.

HerneTheHunter on May 16, 2012 at 12:13 AM

If so, why is Romney getting less votes than Mccain in the same states?

promachus on May 16, 2012 at 12:06 AM

Hell I voted for McCain in the primary back in 08 I couldn’t vote for Mitt in the primary even with him the only one left in the race.

Mitt couldn’t get a 90% result in a communist country.

unseen on May 16, 2012 at 12:13 AM

Nobody cares about the Tea Party endorsements. Or for that matter, Palin endorsements, outside of her most fanatical followers. Most people don’t really care for endorsements.

Again, Fischer was the moderate in the race. It’s completely bizarre to see the ABRtards, “TruCon”, crazy heads here commemorating her victory. Actually I’m going to screencap this, it’ll be worth a few laughs in the next 6 years.

joana on May 15, 2012 at 11:46 PM

The Establishment Republicans and the Democrats certainly care about the Tea Party and Sarah Palin. Did you screencap the 2010 historic Republican victories led by Sarah Palin and the Tea Party?

The Republican Party should have been thanking the TP and Palin for their victories instead of acting like they won on their own.

bluefox on May 16, 2012 at 12:14 AM

As big as the group that had the earthquake in Iowa?

alchemist19 on May 16, 2012 at 12:12 AM

how many votes did Bush win FL and OH by again in 2000?

unseen on May 16, 2012 at 12:15 AM

and Sharron Angle totally had the election won.

amerpundit on May 15, 2012 at 11:58 PM

Kind of hard to win when 15% of you establishment wimps decide to vote for Reid.

topdawg on May 16, 2012 at 12:15 AM

bluefox on May 16, 2012 at 12:01 AM

The 10/11 reporter point-blank asked her what the big name endorsements meant to her, and Fischer said it was nice but what really mattered was the Nebraskans like Orr and Fortenberry who endorsed her. That’s true to a certain extent, but I thought it odd not to credit Palin’s support on air when Fischer specifically requested it.

Hopefully, that’s not how she really feels. I don’t want to over-credit Palin’s endorsement, because Nebraskans usually don’t give a rat’s rear end what outsiders think of anything but the football team, but Palin’s endorsement did help. The timing of it was especially good. I think that’s when people started to say outloud, “Hey, she really could win this.”

NebCon on May 16, 2012 at 12:16 AM

I sent money to Fischer because she got Palin’s endorsement, and I’ll be voting for Romney in November.

GaltBlvnAtty on May 16, 2012 at 12:16 AM

And frankly, Palin is unimportant in most of those races. I mean, she endorsed Fischer when she was gaining momentum and on her way up. Palin does this frequently.

Those who want her to endorse Hatch opponent: hope for a couple of polls showing Liljenquist gaining ground – very close or already ahead. Otherwise, Palin will never endorse.

joana on May 16, 2012 at 12:01 AM

Please, you are pathetic. Nikki Haley was in fourth place, FOURTH PLACE, when Palin endorsed. Fischer was in 3rd place.

topdawg on May 16, 2012 at 12:17 AM

I think too many people are over-estimating Palin’s endorsement and under-estimating Jim Demint’s support.

Spliff Menendez on May 16, 2012 at 12:19 AM

“Palin is irrelevant” used to be the hater refrain.
Now it’s “Palin is relevant everywhere but NY,NJ and DC”. The haters are mellowing with age.

BoxHead1 on May 16, 2012 at 12:06 AM

The one I like is the “Candidate X was surging anyway” meme. Quite popular these days. Get ready for more of it if Palin backs more winners.

“She waited too long” is a good one too.

Dongemaharu on May 16, 2012 at 12:20 AM

Kind of hard to win when 15% of you establishment wimps decide to vote for Reid.

topdawg on May 16, 2012 at 12:15 AM

they would rather have a talkingpoint then a senate seat. Also I love how they all forget to mention how hard it is to beat a sitting majority leader of the Senate who has the full power of the purse to pay his friends like the unions to GOTV with bills and promises..

unseen on May 16, 2012 at 12:20 AM

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