Are you ready for the alternative Newsweek Obama gay-marriage covers?

posted at 6:08 pm on May 15, 2012 by Allahpundit

I can’t decide which I like better: The one of the rainbow flag flying over the White House (victory!) or the one of the omnipotent American father holding up the two male cake toppers, a beatific glow around him, the whole cultural world literally in his hands. But where’s the one of him desperately trying to cover Biden’s mouth on “Meet the Press” before he inadvertently forced O to “courageously” profess the belief he’d been cowardly hiding for decades? Or how about one showing a group of wealthy gay Democratic bundlers, young voters, and assorted limousine liberals presenting him with one of those giant sweepstakes-placard checks for $100 million? Alas, that degree of realism about what really motivated this “evolution” falls to one of the country’s three or four conservative editorial cartoonists to grapple with. Or what about this one from American Weasel, which nicely illustrates the possibility that Obama miscalculated on this issue?

Speaking of which, via Mediaite, here’s Sharpton and Bashir trying to puzzle out how anyone can think Obama “evolved” for political advantage when Romney’s been the big winner poll-wise so far. Answer: The key words there are “so far.” Once Biden pushed this issue front and center, O faced the dilemma of keeping up the lie about his beliefs while the media carped ever more loudly about it or coming clean and facing a backlash among older voters, black Democrats, and socially conservative independents. Like I said last week, he probably reasoned that it was better to ‘fess up now, collect millions in donations from his newly excited base, and count on voters’ attention spans to make them forget all about this come November than to let it drag out and potentially blow up in his face at an inopportune moment later on. Romney’s not going to stray too far afield to talk about SSM lest it complicate his economic message so Obama’s betting that by election day it’ll be more or less a non-issue. My hunch is that he’s probably right about that, especially if something happens between Israel and Iran, but eyeball this new data from ABC showing a gap, including among independents, between the number who strongly oppose Obama’s new position and the number who strongly support it. No surprise there. But will it endure?


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The Republicans are making a mistake if they focus on turning this IRS issue into a presidency-ending scandal. It would be a wasted opportunity if they over-promise and under-deliver on the promise of a great scandal. There is a much larger point to be made on the expansiveness and intrusiveness of big government that this IRS scandal exemplifies. Moreover, by trying to attack this IRS activity as a criminal matter, it greatly raises the bar on the Republicans by placing the burden of proof on the accusers. It’s much better to keep this issue in the political realm, and use it to undermine and attack Obama’s claim that the government can be trusted with the increased power/role that he wants to create for it.

Yes, the criminal investigation should proceed on a parallel track, but it shouldn’t distract from advancing the political case apart from the more legalistic one. Later, if it becomes clear that a WINNING criminal case can be brought, or that these criminal case(s) reach high into the administration, the Republicans can push the criminal angle.

The fact that the Republicans may have known about this before the election and sat on it suggests to me that they may be making the mistake of focusing on the narrow criminal aspect of this issue, rather than fully exploiting the political dimension. There is a winning argument to be made about this IRS issue in the political realm if the Republicans are willing to make it.

ghostwriter on May 19, 2013 at 1:35 PM

If the law is now irrelevant and won’t be enforced then the America people will have to take the law into their own hands. If peaceful, civil political discourse is forbidden then it’s time to move beyond peaceful, civil discourse.

FloatingRock on May 19, 2013 at 1:04 PM

And if the law is now irrelevant, why pay taxes to feed the leviathan?

dominigan on May 19, 2013 at 1:36 PM

Irony

Schadenfreude on May 19, 2013 at 1:36 PM

How a woman can be as dumb and shrill as Eleanor and make so much money?

bw222 on May 19, 2013 at 1:36 PM

Unfortunately the WH only means that the law is irrelevant to them, not us. They are above the law.

FloatingRock on May 19, 2013 at 1:27 PM

Democrats believe they have the country over the barrel so to speak.

Their logic goes We as a country are too timid to impeach our Historical president…cause well as an Historical President we risk being prejudicial and petty if we hold this special person to the same laws every other President or Citizen is held to.

They want a female next…They hope that 16 successive years of this legal pretzeling will erase any cultural memory of binding law as it existed before the entrenchment of the new super class that eradicates the prior binding law of the land.

This is done simultaneously to building a super majority electorally and demographically as a means of permanent power.

Very old trick that one…

workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 1:38 PM

FloatingRock on May 19, 2013 at 1:30 PM

Just stop. When it comes to that immigration subject, the law has been irrelevant for many years.
Now the Constitution is no longer a living breathing document. It has a stake through its heart and is suspicious reading according to the IRS.

clnurnberg on May 19, 2013 at 1:38 PM

You hide something from Congress, you hide it from We the People and the several states.

When the Feral Government does something like that, it is acting no different than as if it were a foreign government. Come to think of it, most of what the the Feral Government does IS outside the bounds of the Constitution and is, therefore, a foreign government. We’ve been conquered little bitty bits at a time and now it is accelerating exponentially – to wit: Obamacare(The ACA).

The Feral Government was never meant to operate autonomously. It was meant to operate within the bounds of the Constitution.

Fire them all!

Woody

woodcdi on May 19, 2013 at 1:39 PM

How a woman can be as dumb and shrill as Eleanor and make so much money?

bw222 on May 19, 2013 at 1:36 PM

Only in America, today.

Schadenfreude on May 19, 2013 at 1:39 PM

FloatingRock on May 19, 2013 at 1:30 PM

Because soon the only Bill of Rights that will count is the economic bill of rights that obama wants. YOur money is their’s. They will decide what you keep.

clnurnberg on May 19, 2013 at 1:40 PM

To get the face and words of this ugly bat out of your mind, here
is the beautiful JJ :
http://www.therightscoop.com/judge-jeanine-pirro-rips-the-obama-administration-in-another-fantastic-monologue/

burrata on May 19, 2013 at 1:41 PM

If Obama gets away with this, he will go for broke.

clnurnberg on May 19, 2013 at 1:43 PM

I’m also not comfortable with the President didn’t know anything about it. It could go as far as “I don’t want to know what you did, just get it done” phase, but I can’t believe the President knew nothing. If he didn’t there should be a lot of heads rolling in the White House and in his administration.

bflat879 on May 19, 2013 at 1:27 PM

I don’t see how the president not knowing can be a mitigating factor. Either way you look at it, this issue is bad. Either the president knew about (and possibly encouraged) it, which could be an impeachable offense. Or it happened without his knowledge, which suggests another whole host of failures that reflect poorly on his governance, his agenda, and his vision for the country. I don’t think the argument that “Hey I may be incompetent, but I’m not a criminal,” is terribly persuasive with most voters. At some point, competence has to matter.

ghostwriter on May 19, 2013 at 1:44 PM

ghostwriter on May 19, 2013 at 1:44 PM

The third option is that he and Jarrett knew, and are successfully lying. The press will aid and abet with winking at the problem and going along with the charade. In the meantime, the IRS will continue to harass and Miller will merely be appointed elsewhereHis future is safe.

clnurnberg on May 19, 2013 at 1:47 PM

The fact that the Republicans may have known about this before the election and sat on it suggests to me that they may be making the mistake of focusing on the narrow criminal aspect of this issue, rather than fully exploiting the political dimension. There is a winning argument to be made about this IRS issue in the political realm if the Republicans are willing to make it.

ghostwriter on May 19, 2013 at 1:35 PM

Maybe…

It could also mean they are focused on building the legal case.

That takes time and care.

Tactically…you give your opponent enough rope and they hang themselves.

Strategically…The Public has to be behind you as the case(s) builds momentum.

Objectively…As Bad as all of these scandals are the one scandal that might actually achieve building public momentum is the IRS scandal because every American who Pays Taxes understands that & Those are the Americans who financially support the politicians…individually and corporately.

These simultaneous hearings demonstrate a pattern…and remember the LOV is playing catchup…as usual…

workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 1:47 PM

Democrats believe they have the country over the barrel so to speak.

Their logic goes We as a country are too timid to impeach our Historical president…cause well as an Historical President we risk being prejudicial and petty if we hold this special person to the same laws every other President or Citizen is held to.

They want a female next…They hope that 16 successive years of this legal pretzeling will erase any cultural memory of binding law as it existed before the entrenchment of the new super class that eradicates the prior binding law of the land.

This is done simultaneously to building a super majority electorally and demographically as a means of permanent power.

Very old trick that one…

workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 1:38 PM

It might be a mistake to impeach him. However, he (and his little buddies) can be discredited with these scandals that are coming out. People will stop caring about this frivolous historical-precedent crapola once they are given some solid concrete examples of what the bigger issues are.

ghostwriter on May 19, 2013 at 1:48 PM

“the law doesn’t matter”

It’s the “Chicago way”!

And since when have Barry and Company been interested in the law?

GarandFan on May 19, 2013 at 1:49 PM

One thing that is for sure – eric withholder doesn’t know anything.

ghostwriter on May 19, 2013 at 1:44 PM

http://www.buzzfeed.com/dorsey/eric-holder-just-doesnt-know

VegasRick on May 19, 2013 at 1:49 PM

If Obama gets away with this, he will go for broke.

clnurnberg on May 19, 2013 at 1:43 PM

Indeed.

workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 1:49 PM

How a woman can be as dumb and shrill as Eleanor and make so much money?

bw222 on May 19, 2013 at 1:36 PM

She’s a Democrat?

Del Dolemonte on May 19, 2013 at 1:51 PM

One thing that is for sure – eric withholder doesn’t know anything.

ghostwriter on May 19, 2013 at 1:44 PM

http://www.buzzfeed.com/dorsey/eric-holder-just-doesnt-know

VegasRick on May 19, 2013 at 1:49 PM

Oh, and you can’t know what he doesn’t know

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2013/05/16/eric-holder-just-doesnt-know-n1598543

VegasRick on May 19, 2013 at 1:52 PM

Some of these Obama tail-wagging guard dogs need to re-visit their veterinarian and get another series of shots–truth serum for starters. While they’re there a good spraying for lice and ticks would also help!

Don L on May 19, 2013 at 1:52 PM

Maybe…

It could also mean they are focused on building the legal case.

That’s my point. The legal case is a blind alley–screwing around with it is largely a waste of time. It’s much more important to win elections than prosecutions. Pursuing the legal case raises the burden of proof, and it places the burden of proof on the accusers. This approach is not likely bear much fruit. It’s much better to focus on the political track, and put the burden of proof the Obama Administration.

ghostwriter on May 19, 2013 at 1:53 PM

While they’re there a good spraying for lice and ticks would also help!

Don L on May 19, 2013 at 1:52 PM

Worms.

VegasRick on May 19, 2013 at 1:53 PM

Soon obama will send more troops somewhere, anywhere, just get them out of the way. Big Sis has more than enough ammunition, now and people are suspecting the truth. It cannot be tolerated much longer.

clnurnberg on May 19, 2013 at 1:54 PM

Try hiding stuff or lying to the IRS and see if they think it’s illegal.

tru2tx on May 19, 2013 at 1:55 PM

All I know is there is really nothing I can do about this. I feel nothing but despair for the country.

He was hiding the words “Al Qaeda” for reasons that have nothing to do with reelection. Fort Hood was waaaaay before 2012.

Maybe I will learn Russian.

clnurnberg on May 19, 2013 at 1:57 PM

If Obama gets away with this, he will go for broke.

clnurnberg on May 19, 2013 at 1:43 PM

And the land who brung/kept this thug deserves it, in full.

Schadenfreude on May 19, 2013 at 1:58 PM

Democrats believe they have the country over the barrel so to speak.

Their logic goes We as a country are too timid to impeach our Historical president…cause well as an Historical President we risk being prejudicial and petty if we hold this special person to the same laws every other President or Citizen is held to.

They want a female next…They hope that 16 successive years of this legal pretzeling will erase any cultural memory of binding law as it existed before the entrenchment of the new super class that eradicates the prior binding law of the land.

This is done simultaneously to building a super majority electorally and demographically as a means of permanent power.

Very old trick that one…

workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 1:38 PM

It might be a mistake to impeach him. However, he (and his little buddies) can be discredited with these scandals that are coming out. People will stop caring about this frivolous historical-precedent crapola once they are given some solid concrete examples of what the bigger issues are.

ghostwriter on May 19, 2013 at 1:48 PM

It’s early yet.

To hold Obama or any elected official above the law out of fear of riots…or because one citizen is assigned a special status over another has reprecussions that last.

It essentially invalidates our sense of American Justice….Our American Conscience….Who we are individually and collectively with the history and the promise that binds us together as a nation.

It is grave indeed.

workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 1:58 PM

CLIFT: — to find a crime and to find a crime that leads to the Oval Office, which is what Republicans are trying desperately to do.

Hey, remember when Eleanor Clift had this to say about the Abu Ghraib scandal?

I think what we have now is the “bad apple” theory versus the “they told me from high to do it.” And if you can constrain it to seven rogue soldiers, it’s a much more containable scandal. But there is no reasonable person that will believe that these young people acted on their own. And the climate was set from the very top saying we don’t have to abide by Geneva, the rules have changed after 9/11. And specific rules of engagement were established at the Pentagon and by the administration. So, yes, the chain goes way up.

Apparently, the President is responsible for the actions of his subordinates when you’re talking about the night shift of reservist MPs at a prison outside of Baghdad, but not when you’re talking about some civil service drones in Cleveland. Because Baghdad is a lot closer to the Oval Office than Cleveland is, of course. And Iraqi detainees have more rights than American citizens.

Bizarro World.

Hayabusa on May 19, 2013 at 2:00 PM

H/t VegasRick

Schadenfreude on May 19, 2013 at 2:00 PM

it’s disturbing to constantly hear these people say the same things. seems like on Friday, the new talking point was that the IG was appointed by bush. so now they all have to parrot that.

is clift supposed to be pretending that she’s unbiased and maybe you know, not recite the wh talking points??

jetch on May 19, 2013 at 2:01 PM

Limbaugh said it’s time to panic yet?
I suspect that will be next, maybe he’ll go Depardieu and head to Moscow?

clnurnberg on May 19, 2013 at 2:02 PM

Maybe…

It could also mean they are focused on building the legal case.

That’s my point. The legal case is a blind alley–screwing around with it is largely a waste of time. It’s much more important to win elections than prosecutions. Pursuing the legal case raises the burden of proof, and it places the burden of proof on the accusers. This approach is not likely bear much fruit. It’s much better to focus on the political track, and put the burden of proof the Obama Administration.

ghostwriter on May 19, 2013 at 1:53 PM

This approach is not likely bear much fruit.

I disagree…I watched Watergate as a teenager.

workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 2:02 PM

workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 2:02 PM

Me too. Nixon was St Michael the Archangel next to Obama.

clnurnberg on May 19, 2013 at 2:04 PM

It’s early yet.

To hold Obama or any elected official above the law out of fear of riots…or because one citizen is assigned a special status over another has reprecussions that last.

It essentially invalidates our sense of American Justice….Our American Conscience….Who we are individually and collectively with the history and the promise that binds us together as a nation.

It is grave indeed.

workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 1:58 PM

No, I wouldn’t draw that conclusion. Impeachment of a president is fundamentally a political act. The only thing that matters in pursuing impeachment is the likelihood of success in removing the officeholder from office. If enough Democrats appear willing to stand with Obama, then impeachment will fail, because the Dems willy simply confuse the issue, creating some rationale on which to justify an acquittal. This has very little to do with Obama’s skin color, and it has everything to do with politics.

ghostwriter on May 19, 2013 at 2:05 PM

H/t VegasRick

Schadenfreude on May 19, 2013 at 2:00 PM

eric withholder doesn’t know anything.

VegasRick on May 19, 2013 at 2:06 PM

So we are depending on turncoat dems to save the republic?
There is no hope.

clnurnberg on May 19, 2013 at 2:07 PM

this is the dividends of the cultural hegemony of the Left over the last decades.

obviously these very same hyper-partisan pundits and press would be screaming hyena had this happened to Boooooosh…

but now they have this desultory chin rubbing navel gazing attitude…well, it depends on what the meaning of is is

so we’ll see. IF the public cares enuf about the county…IF they are willing to rick their government cheese…well, then maybe we’ll have a good outcome

else, this will the the New Normal

r keller on May 19, 2013 at 2:07 PM

This approach is not likely bear much fruit.

I disagree…I watched Watergate as a teenager.

workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 2:02 PM

Three points:

1. Nixon was a Republican.

2. Republicans weren’t discredited by Watergate, winning three of the four presidential elections.

3. Impeachment makes the issue about Obma, and not liberalism/progressivism writ large. The former would be a relatively minor victory, and the latter would be a game changer. I dislike Obama, but I hate socialism.

ghostwriter on May 19, 2013 at 2:10 PM

workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 2:02 PM

Me too. Nixon was St Michael the Archangel next to Obama.

clnurnberg on May 19, 2013 at 2:04 PM

Nixon does seem a little quaint in comparison…just a drunk paranoiac?

My point is that Watergate made me a political skeptic…not a cynic.

Politics matters to most people when it hits home…When it’s personal.

The IRS abuse of Power…becomes very personal to most Taxpayers…Just like the AP scandal became personal to most journolists.

Because we care we have seen the pattern of corruption in repeated scandals…lies and policy.

We can hope that change occurs in the ignorant LIV.

workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 2:11 PM

So we are depending on turncoat dems to save the republic?
There is no hope.

clnurnberg on May 19, 2013 at 2:07 PM

Only if you think that impeaching Obama is the only way to save the republic. It isn’t necessary or sufficient to save the republic. Obama isn’t the problem; the ascendency of the folks that put him in office is the problem.

ghostwriter on May 19, 2013 at 2:12 PM

EDIT:

2. Republicans weren’t discredited by Watergate, winning three of the next four presidential elections.

ghostwriter on May 19, 2013 at 2:13 PM

I dislike Obama, but I hate socialism.

ghostwriter on May 19, 2013 at 2:10 PM

obamba is socialism brother.

VegasRick on May 19, 2013 at 2:13 PM

But Eleanor,

IF Obama et al have nothing to hide, what’s the problem?

Really, right? That’s what we get told all the time.

ProfShadow on May 19, 2013 at 2:14 PM

The fact that the Republicans may have known about this before the election and sat on it suggests to me that they may be making the mistake of focusing on the narrow criminal aspect of this issue, rather than fully exploiting the political dimension. There is a winning argument to be made about this IRS issue in the political realm if the Republicans are willing to make it.

ghostwriter on May 19, 2013 at 1:35 PM

The thing to keep in mind is that the GOP establishment and their cronies rely on IRS corruption as much as the Democrats. That’s why you won’t ever hear them call to abolish the IRS, (the only solution), and replace it with a fairer tax regime, (which already exist in several successful states), that doesn’t rely on the IRS.

FloatingRock on May 19, 2013 at 2:14 PM

What’s happened to David Gregory? He’s looking very thin lately.

slickwillie2001 on May 19, 2013 at 12:48 PM

Judicial Watch filed suit on behalf of Legal Insurrection for FOIA on why Gregory wasn’t prosecuted for breaking the law…

workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 1:11 PM

Ooops, that’s Eleanor Clift; sorry.

slickwillie2001 on May 19, 2013 at 2:17 PM

That’s why you won’t ever hear them call to abolish the IRS, (the only solution), and replace it with a fairer tax regime, (which already exist in several successful states), that doesn’t rely on the IRS.

FloatingRock on May 19, 2013 at 2:14 PM

2 names.
Rand Paul
Ted Cruz

VegasRick on May 19, 2013 at 2:18 PM

If the American people want to get rid of the fascist IRS they’re going to have to force the ruling class to comply.

FloatingRock on May 19, 2013 at 2:18 PM

obamba is socialism brother.

VegasRick on May 19, 2013 at 2:13 PM

No, he isn’t. If we were to successfully impeach and remove Obama from office, the socialists will disown him, and try again with somebody else.

ghostwriter on May 19, 2013 at 2:19 PM

2 names.
Rand Paul
Ted Cruz

VegasRick on May 19, 2013 at 2:18 PM

I hope that they and Mike Lee will lead the charge. I’m impatient that they haven’t already but maybe the time isn’t ripe yet.

FloatingRock on May 19, 2013 at 2:19 PM

It all rolls up to the top. Who could forget this?

“In other words: “Congress may pass laws, but I decide which of its laws are constitutional and which I can simply choose to ignore.”

CrimsonFisted on May 19, 2013 at 2:19 PM

So my prediction..Obama mouths a few platitudes, the press goes wild. The abuses continue, he runs for a third term and the law i truly irrelevant.
Krauthammer called him lawless early on. He was right and the game is over.

clnurnberg on May 19, 2013 at 2:19 PM

So my prediction..Obama mouths a few platitudes, the press goes wild. The abuses continue, he runs for a third term and the law i truly irrelevant.
Krauthammer called him lawless early on. He was right and the game is over.

clnurnberg on May 19, 2013 at 2:19 PM

Obama is effectively getting castrated. The Republicans will keep the House in 2014, keeping Obama in check. Obama likely will probably finish his second term, but his approval ratings will be in the low 30s when he leaves office (assuming the Republicans don’t do him the favor of impeaching him).

ghostwriter on May 19, 2013 at 2:23 PM

No, he isn’t. If we were to successfully impeach and remove Obama from office, the socialists will disown him, and try again with somebody else.

ghostwriter on May 19, 2013 at 2:19 PM

No doubt impeaching barky will not solve the problem but he is a BIG part of the cabal.

VegasRick on May 19, 2013 at 2:25 PM

Go see Drudge, but refresh. The picture is perfect for the child of Lenin and Mussolini.

Schadenfreude on May 19, 2013 at 2:26 PM

Krauthammer called him lawless early on. He was right and the game is over.

clnurnberg on May 19, 2013 at 2:19 PM

It ain’t over. And thank God for the 2A.

VegasRick on May 19, 2013 at 2:27 PM

I’m very worried that the “established” GOP who are happy with the status quo AND the extreme right who are still hollering about Obama’s birth certificate are going to blow a golden opportunity. Now is the time to convince some bright Democrats (c’mon there have to be SOME) that government is too big, too power hungry and loaded with Socialists.

Nana on May 19, 2013 at 2:29 PM

Go see Drudge, but refresh. The picture is perfect for the child of Lenin and Mussolini.

Schadenfreude on May 19, 2013 at 2:26 PM

Isn’t whorehouse the school indoctrination institution the racist sodomite used to indoctrinate at?

tom daschle concerned on May 19, 2013 at 2:31 PM

Headlines in this Sunday’s Portland (Me.)Press Herald:

Above the fold:

“Oversight of Maine restaurants diminishes, just as complaints rise”

Turnpike toll hike appears to pay off”

Below the fold:

“Recent attack underscores Riverview safety concern”

“Man presumed dead in house fire”

Nothing to see here, folks.

Cleombrotus on May 19, 2013 at 2:31 PM

No doubt impeaching barky will not solve the problem but he is a BIG part of the cabal.

VegasRick on May 19, 2013 at 2:25 PM

Yeah, he is…today. Tomorrow, who knows? Once he stops being useful to them, he’ll be back on the outside looking in. I might be underestimating him, but I don’t think that Obama is all that special, aside from the office he now occupies.

ghostwriter on May 19, 2013 at 2:31 PM

I’m very worried that the “established” GOP who are happy with the status quo AND the extreme right who are still hollering about Obama’s birth certificate are going to blow a golden opportunity. Now is the time to convince some bright Democrats (c’mon there have to be SOME) that government is too big, too power hungry and loaded with Socialists.

Nana on May 19, 2013 at 2:29 PM

Yes!

ghostwriter on May 19, 2013 at 2:32 PM

Where are all the scumbag, gubmint sucking loser trolls today?

VegasRick on May 19, 2013 at 2:38 PM

If it was a crime, it wasn’t much of a crime…

If laws were broken, they weren’t important laws…

If the president lied, other presidents have lied…

The incompetent-in-chief has a buffering of kneepads to slow the bleeding, but the hemorrhaging will continue Eleanor.

profitsbeard on May 19, 2013 at 2:38 PM

It might be a mistake to impeach him. However, he (and his little buddies) can be discredited with these scandals that are coming out. People will stop caring about this frivolous historical-precedent crapola once they are given some solid concrete examples of what the bigger issues are.

ghostwriter on May 19, 2013 at 1:48 PM

I happen to believe the same thing, trying to impeach him would be a monumental waste of time (we know Senate will never let this happen) totally unproductive and a clear overreach. Keep the IRS, Benghazi and AP scandals front page and shed light on all aspects and angles pertaining to them. You’re right that once people get to know the details of all these scandals and the workings of the institutions that are supposedly there to upheld the law,, as well as the details of the corruption, crass incompetence, attempts at cover up and blatant intimidation (especially in the IRS case that they relate the most to) that this government has become synonymous with, the wool will start unravelling and eventually coming off their eyes.. A lot of people in this country are dumb and uninformed unfortunately, some are simply immoral and dependent on their freebies, but even the dumbest and most immoral ones understand IRS and what they can do to you and yours if left unchecked or if used to advance political goals. Nobody is that dumb or that immoral.

jimver on May 19, 2013 at 2:40 PM

Guess what, Clift. Y’all think you have Calvin and Bomqueesha voting five times each for any old Democrat you run for the Oval Office. You are seriously thinking the 0bama Coalition will work for any old Democrat, the old white ones included. So you think you are going to survive this by declaring it irrelevant. Keep thinking that, seriously.

2012 was won because a lot of vote fraud can be hidden in with an actual high turnout in Democrat-machine-held urban precincts. Enough to overwhelm a comparably high turnout from suburban and rural precincts. Let’s see you pull that out for a candidate lighter than a paper bag.

On top of that, the biggest damage to your lads came when you systematically demonstrated that conservatives were not crazy when we said you’d come for our guns and churches. Now you had to admit the very agency you were intending to enforce Obamacare is made up of folks who admitted to politically targeting conservatives. You can’t dismiss us as loonies anymore.

We are coming. We want blood, we want careers ruined, we want your price in rubles back during the Cold War, and like the Romans of old, we will make you a gift of a knife. You should know what to do with it.

Sekhmet on May 19, 2013 at 2:48 PM

Des are trying to reassure IRS employees they won’t lose their jobs. We must help these employees understand they may keep their job after they serve their sentence in jail. Answers will surely be forthcoming when this becomes apparent to them.

Herb on May 19, 2013 at 2:48 PM

I saw Eleanor’s picture the other day….
It was illustrating the definition of Moron!

Another Drew on May 19, 2013 at 2:50 PM

How a woman can be as dumb and shrill as Eleanor and make so much money?

She’s a Feminista!

Another Drew on May 19, 2013 at 2:53 PM

Eleanor Clift never had a brain in her head. She must have used the Barbara Walters method of advancement in journalism. Hey, if they would shtoop Baba Wawa, why not Clift (before she became a dessicated old crone some 30 years ago, of course, since which they’ve kept her around waiting for her to die. And waiting, and waiting . . .)?

They certainly have never needed to ASK Clift what her opinion was on ANY subject. Just take whatever talking points the DNC is passing around, that’s her opinion. Earnest and heartfelt, in every case, just as if the stupid whore had thought of them herself.

Adjoran on May 19, 2013 at 2:55 PM

Ratings? It’s PBS. Do they care about ratings? Used to watch it in the day. Can’t now. If it were on CNN it would have been canceled years ago.

rickv404 on May 19, 2013 at 12:58 PM

It is? It used to be on NBC and later, CBS.

22044 on May 19, 2013 at 2:56 PM

It might be a mistake to impeach him. However, he (and his little buddies) can be discredited with these scandals that are coming out. People will stop caring about this frivolous historical-precedent crapola once they are given some solid concrete examples of what the bigger issues are.

ghostwriter on May 19, 2013 at 1:48 PM

I happen to believe the same thing, trying to impeach him would be a monumental waste of time (we know Senate will never let this happen) totally unproductive and a clear overreach. Keep the IRS, Benghazi and AP scandals front page and shed light on all aspects and angles pertaining to them. You’re right that once people get to know the details of all these scandals and the workings of the institutions that are supposedly there to upheld the law,, as well as the details of the corruption, crass incompetence, attempts at cover up and blatant intimidation (especially in the IRS case that they relate the most to) that this government has become synonymous with, the wool will start unravelling and eventually coming off their eyes.. A lot of people in this country are dumb and uninformed unfortunately, some are simply immoral and dependent on their freebies, but even the dumbest and most immoral ones understand IRS and what they can do to you and yours if left unchecked or if used to advance political goals. Nobody is that dumb or that immoral.

jimver on May 19, 2013 at 2:40 PM

Either we are a Nation who abides the Rule of Law…or we are not.

If in the investigation of any of these scandals the evidence points to a breach of the law…Congress must act on it.

” Impeachment – A process that is used to charge, try, and remove public officials for misconduct while in office.

Impeachment is a fundamental constitutional power belonging to Congress.

This safeguard against corruption can be initiated against federal officeholders from the lowest cabinet member, all the way up to the president and the chief justice of the U.S. Supreme Court. Besides providing the authority for impeachment, the U.S. Constitution details the methods to be used. The two-stage process begins in the House of Representatives with a public inquiry into allegations. It culminates, if necessary, with a trial in the Senate. State constitutions model impeachment processes for state officials on this approach. At both the federal and state levels, impeachment is rare: From the passage of the Constitution to the mid-1990s, only 50 impeachment proceedings were initiated, and only a third of these went as far as a trial in the Senate.

The reluctance of lawmakers to use this power is a measure of its gravity; it is generally only invoked by evidence of criminality or substantial abuse of power…

Impeachment, the constitutional method for removing presidents, judges, and other federal officers who commit “Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors,” requires a majority vote by the House of Representatives, and then conviction by a two-thirds vote in the Senate…”

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/impeachment

workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 3:00 PM

Now is the time to convince some bright Democrats (c’mon there have to be SOME) that government is too big, too power hungry and loaded with Socialists.

Nana

Good luck with that. After we’re done locating that mythical creature, maybe we can focus on finding bigfoot.

Now for a newsflash…. much if not most of the republican party hasn’t even been convinced that government is too big and too power hungry, nor do they care that it’s loaded with socialists, because many of those socialists include themselves. Heck,they’re hellbent now on handing the country over to 30 million new socialists, so why would anyone believe they’re concerned one bit about the socialists already in charge?

And for anyone fantasizing about impeachment, expect to be disappointed. There is no way this republican party will ever impeach the first black president.`Even if it is confirmed beyond any doubt that Obama was behind all 3 scandals, it ain’t gonna happen, so you may as well wake up. Unless Obama rapes a kid or murders a woman, he won’t be going anywhere.

xblade on May 19, 2013 at 3:00 PM

but the hemorrhaging will continue Eleanor.

profitsbeard on May 19, 2013 at 2:38 PM

There’s no tourniquet strong enough for this thuggish gang.

Schadenfreude on May 19, 2013 at 3:02 PM

There’s no tourniquet strong enough for this thuggish gang.

Schadenfreude on May 19, 2013 at 3:02 PM

Amputation is the only way.

VegasRick on May 19, 2013 at 3:05 PM

Three points:

1. Nixon was a Republican.

2. Republicans weren’t discredited by Watergate, winning three of the four presidential elections.

3. Impeachment makes the issue about Obma, and not liberalism/progressivism writ large. The former would be a relatively minor victory, and the latter would be a game changer. I dislike Obama, but I hate socialism.

ghostwriter on May 19, 2013 at 2:10 PM

It’s early yet.

If Congress has evidence any public official broke the law…they should use their powers to impeach that official.

Otherwise the Law has no Teeth…

workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 3:06 PM

If in the investigation of any of these scandals the evidence points to a breach of the law…Congress must act on it.

Umm… Where precisely does it say that Congress “must” act in the Constitution? My reading of the Constitution is pretty vague on the point of “high crimes and misdemeanors,” which gives Congress considerable discretion on how to pursue such a case.

ghostwriter on May 19, 2013 at 3:11 PM

Only one question. Is it the syphilis or the senility?

jukin3 on May 19, 2013 at 3:21 PM

Liar of the world

Schadenfreude on May 19, 2013 at 3:21 PM

Or, to paraphrase another great American, “I said it was all wrong after I said it was alright.”

IndieDogg on May 19, 2013 at 3:23 PM

the same people who would cry foul if this occurred under a gop president and calling for impeachment would be fine and dandy to them then…

cmsinaz on May 19, 2013 at 3:24 PM

There’s no tourniquet strong enough for this thuggish gang.

Schadenfreude on May 19, 2013 at 3:02 PM

Amputation is the only way.

VegasRick on May 19, 2013 at 3:05 PM

There’s likely a Holderectomy in the offing.

profitsbeard on May 19, 2013 at 3:26 PM

Eleanor Clift so blindingly defends Obama no matter what that she does not see the bigger picture.

I am thinking Republicans in Congress are keeping kind of quiet on this because they are thinking, “Wow – Just imagine when we get back in power all the things we can do now that Obama and the Democrats set the precedent and they get away with it!”

Big, powerful government is bad which ever party does it.

albill on May 19, 2013 at 3:26 PM

Names and addresses….
It’s time to print the names and addresses of every friggin Pol and Bureaucrat.
Then we can do drive-bys and maybe some enterprising Patriot can start up a bus ride that does what the Hollywood rides do.
“This is Scumbag of the IRS Millers house; paid for by money stolen from you”.
We can throw bags of dog poop on their property (literally), just like they do to us (figuratively).
Names and addresses.
III/0317

dirtengineer on May 19, 2013 at 3:26 PM

and is a regular feature on The McLaughlin Group.

.
I’m sure you meant fixture, like plumbing fixture or door handle, something inanimate and unfeeling as well as somewhat brassy but common and mass-produced.

ExpressoBold on May 19, 2013 at 3:34 PM

Obama is effectively getting castrated. The Republicans will keep the House in 2014, keeping Obama in check. Obama likely will probably finish his second term, but his approval ratings will be in the low 30s when he leaves office (assuming the Republicans don’t do him the favor of impeaching him).

ghostwriter on May 19, 2013 at 2:23 PM

Unfortunately Obama is only a symptom of the problem, which is that DC is run by unpatriotic, anti-American, multi-national cronies that profit from the destruction of Americas legacy.

FloatingRock on May 19, 2013 at 3:49 PM

There’s no tourniquet strong enough for this thuggish gang.
Schadenfreude on May 19, 2013 at 3:02 PM

Amputation is the only way.

VegasRick on May 19, 2013 at 3:05 PM

There’s likely a Holderectomy in the offing.

profitsbeard on May 19, 2013 at 3:26 PM

Patient desperately needs a truthfusion.

Kenosha Kid on May 19, 2013 at 3:54 PM

From Schaden’s 3:21 link

Obama: “As An African American You Have To Work Twice As Hard As Anyone Else If You Want To Get By”

How the hell would he know?

Surely not through personal experience.

LegendHasIt on May 19, 2013 at 3:56 PM

Obama: “As An African American You Have To Work Twice As Hard As Anyone Else If You Want To Get By”

How the hell would he know?

Surely not through personal experience.

LegendHasIt on May 19, 2013 at 3:56 PM

He read it in a back issue of Essence given to him by Rev. Wright.

profitsbeard on May 19, 2013 at 4:41 PM

Obama: “As An African American You Have To Work Twice As Hard As Anyone Else If You Want To Get By”

How the hell would he know?

Surely not through personal experience.

LegendHasIt on May 19, 2013 at 3:56 PM

He read it in a back issue of Essence given to him by Rev. Wright.

profitsbeard on May 19, 2013 at 4:41 PM

The truth is, because of Affirmative Action, he has been able to work half as much as a White person in the same career path, and get by.

slickwillie2001 on May 19, 2013 at 4:46 PM

Obama is effectively getting castrated. The Republicans will keep the House in 2014, keeping Obama in check. Obama likely will probably finish his second term, but his approval ratings will be in the low 30s when he leaves office (assuming the Republicans don’t do him the favor of impeaching him).

ghostwriter on May 19, 2013 at 2:23 PM

Nobody keeps him in check now…Do they?

workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 4:46 PM

“I don’t know that hiding something from Congress is illegal”

If you lie to do it, it is.

albill on May 19, 2013 at 4:49 PM

Jazz- WHY are you even HERE?

With this post, you have altered my previous opiinion of you:

You are one of Our Nation’s Leading IDIOTS!!

Go over to Daily Kos – where your incredibly flawed and incoherent structure of cognitive logic can find a fellowship.

williamg on May 19, 2013 at 4:55 PM

The only rating that will be lower than Obama’s at the end of his term, will be the one for the media.

Used-car salesmen rejoice!

Another Drew on May 19, 2013 at 4:59 PM

She always has that glazed-eye look that says, “Nothing you say will get through because I am superior”

Cleombrotus on May 19, 2013 at 5:01 PM

Nobody keeps him in check now…Do they?

workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 4:46 PM

Right–It’s just like when Pelosi was Speaker.

ghostwriter on May 19, 2013 at 5:03 PM

But she shares the same spirit as Angrier Mitchell.

Cleombrotus on May 19, 2013 at 5:03 PM

5th amendment to not incriminated oneself only has to issued only if they ask. If they don’t ask one can say you have a right not to tell. Unless they want to be whistle blowers and tell whoever will listen. That is also what an investigation is for. To ask everything and you have to either answer of plead the 5th. Nothing stifles an investigation of everything than calling it a witch hunt with nothing there there.

tjexcite on May 19, 2013 at 5:24 PM

CLIFT: — to find a crime and to find a crime that leads to the Oval Office, which is what Republicans are trying desperately to do.

If that’s their focus, and I think it is, then they are wrong. The correct argument is to attack big government and say this is the left, how do you like it, America? The GOP doesn’t want to do that because they like their big government nearly as much as the Democrats. They will attempt to make this about Obama and his administration.

DFCtomm on May 19, 2013 at 5:35 PM

Breaking the law is not illegal.
Illegal aliens are not illegal.

Four legs good. Two legs bad.

SparkPlug on May 19, 2013 at 5:51 PM

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