Mother’s Day idea from Kirsten Gillibrand: Why not donate to a pro-choice group?

posted at 8:09 pm on May 11, 2012 by Allahpundit

This Mother’s Day, thank mom for the gift of life by helping to ensure that other kids don’t receive it.

Honestly, the only surprise is that she didn’t go the whole nine yards and make this a pitch for Planned Parenthood instead.

“This Mother’s Day, I can’t think of a better way to honor all the mothers in the country — past and present — than with a contribution to EMILY’s List,” Gillibrand writes. “They’re the ones working tirelessly to elect the pro-choice Democratic women who are making sure that our freedoms are protected for generations to come.”

“So, this year, join me in commemorating Mother’s Day with a contribution to EMILY’s List to help elect the Democratic women who will continue to secure our rights,” the senator continues. “On Mother’s Day, let’s get women involved and make sure they know who is truly fighting for them – the pro-choice Democratic women EMILY’s List is working each day to elect to office. Make this Mother’s Day extra special. Honor mothers around the country with a contribution to EMILY’s List.”

The fundraising appeal features a photo of the New York senator with her children — even though Emily’s List requires all candidates it supports to back taxpayer funding of abortions on children who could have been born to other mothers. Instead, Emily’s List supports denying millions of women like Gillibrand a Mother’s Day.

I’d been thinking it might be nice to take mom to an upscale restaurant on Sunday to celebrate, but no, on second thought, spending that money to help thin out the population of the next generation probably is better. Look at it this way: In years to come, the restaurants on Mother’s Day will be that much less crowded. Easier to book.

Gillibrand’s e-mail is one end of the spectrum on how to celebrate Mother’s Day this year. Here’s the other end. Exit quotation: “This isn’t how we breast-feed at home, it’s more of a cradling, nurturing situation.”

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“So, this year, join me in commemorating Mother’s Day with a contribution to EMILY’s List

Too late! Already sent flowers.

:P

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on May 11, 2012 at 8:12 PM

Wow. The Palin inspired, Schumer funded makeover has done wonders…..

Ben Hur on May 11, 2012 at 8:12 PM

They aren’t pro-choice because the neo-feminists who control the left refuse to allow women to make their own choices about who they will have sex with – and for what kind of compensation.

HondaV65 on May 11, 2012 at 8:12 PM

Yeah that makes lib sense. For mother’s day let’s get more babies killed.

Kjeil on May 11, 2012 at 8:13 PM

Is it too late for a late term abortion on Ms. Gillibrand ??

KenInIL on May 11, 2012 at 8:14 PM

Enough of this “pro-choice” garbage and soon there will be no mothers.

coldwarrior on May 11, 2012 at 8:14 PM

Wow, this is sick! In what twisted mind does it make sense to promote the killing of the unborn on mothers day? Just wow!

Valkyriepundit on May 11, 2012 at 8:14 PM

The best moms kill their kids?

Uh, ooooooookkaaayyy…

Stoic Patriot on May 11, 2012 at 8:14 PM

Nothing says Happy Mothers Day like sending money to those that work tirelessly to help mothers kill their own babies.

CW on May 11, 2012 at 8:14 PM

I’d been thinking it might be nice to take mom to an upscale restaurant on Sunday to celebrate, but no, on second thought, spending that money to help thin out the population of the next generation probably is better.

I’m guessing the kitties are going to run and hide after a certain mom calls her son tonight….

pookysgirl on May 11, 2012 at 8:14 PM

What better way for the anti-humans to celebrate mothers day than helping others kill more babies.

ray on May 11, 2012 at 8:15 PM

Too late, bought my Mom latest issue of Time. As a joke.

BHO Jonestown on May 11, 2012 at 8:15 PM

OR if you don’t agree with KG, donate to Lila Rose:

https://www.liveaction.org/donate

kooly on May 11, 2012 at 8:15 PM

How do people this brain-dead get elected to office?

Bitter Clinger on May 11, 2012 at 8:16 PM

Got me to LOL.

Paul-Cincy on May 11, 2012 at 8:18 PM

At the end Savanah cut the kid off, I think she was afraid he would say on camera that he wanted to feed right then and there.

txmomof6 on May 11, 2012 at 8:19 PM

Who is Emily–they didn’t kill her?

hillsoftx on May 11, 2012 at 8:20 PM

This fits in well with Romney’s Mother’s Day ad.

Dead Hand Control on May 11, 2012 at 8:20 PM

“This Mother’s Day, I can’t think of a better way to honor all the mothers in the country — past and present (but not future) — than with a contribution to EMILY’s List,” Gillibrand writes. “They’re the ones working tirelessly to elect the pro-choice Democratic women who are making sure that our freedoms are protected many women never become mothers for generations never to come.”

Fixed

Bitter Clinger on May 11, 2012 at 8:21 PM

For all of the stick that Palin gets for being a dummy, have any of those ppl ever seen a Kristen Gillibrand interview? In a word: facepalm.. She can’t even handle the softballs. If we do lose this year, I hope to god they run Gillibrand in ’16.

Go RBNY on May 11, 2012 at 8:22 PM

This has to be an Onion story

The Notorious G.O.P on May 11, 2012 at 8:23 PM

But somehow, strangely, there is nothing to lampoon in this regime or the demokrat party for mainstream comedians.

jukin3 on May 11, 2012 at 8:23 PM

How can you reason with that kind of logic?

John the Libertarian on May 11, 2012 at 8:24 PM

The mental disease insanity is strong in this one…
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RalphyBoy on May 11, 2012 at 8:25 PM

We can only hope that their efforts here will accelerate the thinning of their herd in ways we cannot. They keep this up, some day they just might qualify for a Darwin Award.

stukinIL4now on May 11, 2012 at 8:25 PM

They really are that stupid.

Windsweeping on May 11, 2012 at 8:27 PM

The sad thing from a religion standpoint is that Kirsten Gillibrand claims to be a Roman Catholic.

She must be plugging her ears during each homily to avoid informing her conscience.

unclesmrgol on May 11, 2012 at 8:27 PM

It’s easy to be pro-choice when you’re not the one being killed.

davidk on May 11, 2012 at 8:28 PM

Nothing says “motherhood” like killing your child.

The_Jacobite on May 11, 2012 at 8:28 PM

Remember when MSM was marketing Gillibrand as a moderate?

forest on May 11, 2012 at 8:30 PM

Color me confused. Women who abort their babies aren’t mothers as they don’t have children.

parke on May 11, 2012 at 8:30 PM

Kirsten Gillibrand, Chose life your mother did.

Dr Evil on May 11, 2012 at 8:31 PM

And I think all of you should call her Senator sicko. She’s worked so hard for it, you know.

davidk on May 11, 2012 at 8:32 PM

Dear Mom,

On this Mother’s Day I donated to an abortion mill because I WISH I HAD NEVER BEEN BORN!

Love,

a liberal

malclave on May 11, 2012 at 8:33 PM

Is Emily Julia’s aborted sister?

phxconservative on May 11, 2012 at 8:33 PM

Since when do conservatives care what other people do in their own lives, as long as it’s legal and not infringing on their rights? Since about 1973, when what was traditional rugged individualism-based small government conservatism took a back seat to the modern-day religious social conservatism with the rise of the busybody evangelical who knew not only what was best for them, but what was best for you, as well. Repent, sinners! And the democrats have been smiling about that ever since.

keep the change on May 11, 2012 at 8:33 PM

…and to think this b*tch came in as a “blue dog”.

Jesus f**king Christ. I can’t believe she’s really that cold or callous. I think it just demonstrates that many pro-choice people really don’t understand what abortion is. It’s like a blind spot.

MadisonConservative on May 11, 2012 at 8:34 PM

…another daily diversion…just 178 more to go!
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…it’s the ECONOMY stupid…!!!

KOOLAID2 on May 11, 2012 at 8:35 PM

Pretty disappointed to see AP repeating tired old pro-life propaganda about “population thinning” and other nonsense. I thought he was a bit more reasonable than to thoughtlessly promote social “conservative” talking points.

Armin Tamzarian on May 11, 2012 at 8:38 PM

My son picked out a fun card this year for his Mom that said:

Front of card: “Good Moms let their kids lick the beaters.” *Open Card* “Great Moms turn the mixer off first.”

Turning to Gillibrand and Emily’s List, maybe their card should read:

“Good Moms let their kids lick the beaters … Great Mom’s kill them in them in the womb”.

TXUS on May 11, 2012 at 8:39 PM

Armin Tamzarian on May 11, 2012 at 8:38 PM

I knew you would avoid the premise of the post.

keep the change on May 11, 2012 at 8:33 PM

Wow any more straw and will need to put the fire department on notice.

CW on May 11, 2012 at 8:41 PM

I think it just demonstrates that many pro-choice people really don’t understand what abortion is. It’s like a blind spot.

MadisonConservative on May 11, 2012 at 8:34 PM

Yeah, they get caught up in the “choice” part of the issue and forget we’re talking about choosing whether to keep a living human being or kill a living human being.

Bitter Clinger on May 11, 2012 at 8:44 PM

Senator Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) is up for re-election this year.

Republican/Conservative Candidate Wendy Long is running against Senator Gillibrand.

You can learn more about Wendy Long at her campaign website:

http://www.wendylongfornewyork.com/why_i_m_running

I think there are a couple of other candidates running against Senator Gillibrand too.

Can somebody from New York please give us all an update on the status of the NY Senate race?

It is time to vote Kirsten Gillibrand OUT OF OFFICE!

wren on May 11, 2012 at 8:44 PM

Pretty disappointed to see AP repeating tired old pro-life propaganda about “population thinning” and other nonsense. I thought he was a bit more reasonable than to thoughtlessly promote social “conservative” talking points.

Armin Tamzarian on May 11, 2012 at 8:38 PM

Yes, because it’s only cool to promote social “liberal” talking points vis-a-vis gay marriage.

Bitter Clinger on May 11, 2012 at 8:45 PM

How can you reason with that kind of logic?

John the Libertarian on May 11, 2012 at 8:24 PM

Gillibrand make a rational suggestion, so you can’t really argue against it. You can mouth kind silly, irrelevant objections to it, but you aren’t going to convince anyone but the pro-life faithful.

thuja on May 11, 2012 at 8:46 PM

Kirsten Gillibrand claims to be a Catholic. Unfortunately, like Kathleen Sebelius, she’s a “Nancy Pelosi Catholic.”

bw222 on May 11, 2012 at 8:46 PM

Since when do conservatives care what other people do in their own lives, as long as it’s legal and not infringing on their rights? Since about 1973, when what was traditional rugged individualism-based small government conservatism took a back seat to the modern-day religious social conservatism with the rise of the busybody evangelical who knew not only what was best for them, but what was best for you, as well. Repent, sinners! And the democrats have been smiling about that ever since.

keep the change on May 11, 2012 at 8:33 PM

Since when do conservatives defend constitutional “rights” made up out of thin air by liberal judges?

Valkyriepundit on May 11, 2012 at 8:46 PM

Since when do conservatives care what other people do in their own lives, as long as it’s legal and not infringing on their rights?
keep the change on May 11, 2012 at 8:33 PM

Since some people think that “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness” means what it says it means.

2L8 on May 11, 2012 at 8:47 PM

Senator Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) is up for re-election this year.

Republican/Conservative Candidate Wendy Long is running against Senator Gillibrand.

You can learn more about Wendy Long at her campaign website:

http://www.wendylongfornewyork.com/why_i_m_running

I think there are a couple of other candidates running against Senator Gillibrand too.

Can somebody from New York please give us all an update on the status of the NY Senate race?

It is time to vote Kirsten Gillibrand OUT OF OFFICE!

wren on May 11, 2012 at 8:44 PM

A conservative Republican has about has much chance winning a state-wide race in New York as I do to beat Michael Jordan in a game of one-on-one.

Bitter Clinger on May 11, 2012 at 8:48 PM

But, Kirsten’s high cheekbones have got me thinking that this squaw is ready for the reservation, heh, heh, heh …

TXUS on May 11, 2012 at 8:48 PM

Since when do conservatives care what other people do in their own lives, as long as it’s legal and not infringing on their rights?
keep the change on May 11, 2012 at 8:33 PM

“Legal” – Conservatives don’t think that abortion should be legal, that’s the whole point. Abortion kills a living human being, which is why conservatives want to change the law to make it illegal. I assume you’re against Obamacare, but that’s entirely legal as well. Under your analysis you should be perfectly fine with it now.

“Infringing on their rights” – If a law was passed allowing wife-beating that wouldn’t infringe on MY rights, but I would be against that, as would you. Abortion infringes on the right to life of unborn children, just like wife-beating infringes on the right of women not to be assaulted by their husbands.

updog on May 11, 2012 at 8:48 PM

I think it just demonstrates that many pro-choice people really don’t understand what abortion is. It’s like a blind spot.

MadisonConservative on May 11, 2012 at 8:34 PM

Pro-choicers aren’t stupid. We all know that abortion is the killing of a member of the species Homo sapien that has the potential to become a human being. We just don’t see any moral objection to such killing.

thuja on May 11, 2012 at 8:49 PM

Apparently Gillibrand has gotten stuck on stupid.

pianomomma on May 11, 2012 at 8:49 PM

The guise of women’s health is the mucous covering the atrocity.

ChooseLife on May 11, 2012 at 8:49 PM

Kirsten Gillibrand claims to be a Catholic. Unfortunately, like Kathleen Sebelius, she’s a “Nancy Pelosi Catholic.”

bw222 on May 11, 2012 at 8:46 PM

It’s not the Middle Ages anymore. Catholics no longer have to obey like sheep the Church’s religious hierarchy.

thuja on May 11, 2012 at 8:51 PM

Pro-choicers aren’t stupid. We all know that abortion is the killing of a member of the species Homo sapien that has the potential to become a human being. We just don’t see any moral objection to such killing.

thuja on May 11, 2012 at 8:49 PM

So would you have moral objection to any killing of a Homo sapien, or do yo just not have any moral objection to killing just the innocent defenseless ones?

2L8 on May 11, 2012 at 8:52 PM

thuja on May 11, 2012 at 8:51 PM

Slow day at Kos?

bw222 on May 11, 2012 at 8:54 PM

Pro-choicers aren’t stupid. We all know that abortion is the killing of a member of the species Homo sapien that has the potential to become a human being. We just don’t see any moral objection to such killing.

thuja on May 11, 2012 at 8:49 PM

Thank you for providing everyone with a perfect demonstration of how evil you and people who think like you are. Sorry, but there’s no other word for it. Someone who thinks that killing babies carries no moral implications is either evil or misinformed. You’re apparently not misinformed.

updog on May 11, 2012 at 8:54 PM

Pro-choicers aren’t stupid. We all know that abortion is the killing of a member of the species Homo sapien that has the potential to become a human being. We just don’t see any moral objection to such killing.

thuja on May 11, 2012 at 8:49 PM

I assume you would find “moral objection” to killing a new-born baby. So the key for you is that it’s ok as long as the baby hasn’t passed through the birth canal yet.

Bitter Clinger on May 11, 2012 at 8:54 PM

I assume you would find “moral objection” to killing a new-born baby.

Bitter Clinger on May 11, 2012 at 8:54 PM

Me thinks you assume too much!

Valkyriepundit on May 11, 2012 at 8:56 PM

Kirsten Gillibrand claims to be a Catholic. Unfortunately, like Kathleen Sebelius, she’s a “Nancy Pelosi Catholic.”

bw222 on May 11, 2012 at 8:46 PM

It’s not the Middle Ages anymore. Catholics no longer have to obey like sheep the Church’s religious hierarchy.

thuja on May 11, 2012 at 8:51 PM

Well the point is she shouldn’t claim to be Catholic.

We just don’t see any moral objection to such killing.

thuja on May 11, 2012 at 8:49 PM

You’re lost. To think you know it is killing humans and you have no objection actually make you lower than the average pro-choicer. So enough with the WE b.s..

CW on May 11, 2012 at 8:58 PM

A contribution to pro-choicers on Mother’s Day? I’m afraid my irony meter only goes to eleven. It broke.

AnonymousDrivel on May 11, 2012 at 8:58 PM

Since when do conservatives care what other people do in their own lives, as long as it’s legal and not infringing on their rights? Since about 1973, when what was traditional rugged individualism-based small government conservatism took a back seat to the modern-day religious social conservatism with the rise of the busybody evangelical who knew not only what was best for them, but what was best for you, as well. Repent, sinners! And the democrats have been smiling about that ever since.

keep the change on May 11, 2012 at 8:33 PM

getalife

davidk on May 11, 2012 at 8:58 PM

Me thinks you assume too much!

Valkyriepundit on May 11, 2012 at 8:56 PM

Perhaps you’re right. But I’ll bet this same wonderful individual is dead-set against the death penalty for convicted murderers.

Bitter Clinger on May 11, 2012 at 8:58 PM

I see this has come up yet again. I just don’t get it. Isn’t the whole point of aborting a baby to insure not becoming a Mom. I mean you can’t be a Mom and abort your baby, right? Or am I just missing the obvious on this one.

Bmore on May 11, 2012 at 8:59 PM

Thanks for not aborting me, mom. I gave to pro-choice!

EliTheBean on May 11, 2012 at 8:59 PM

Pro-choice is a euphemism for murder.

davidk on May 11, 2012 at 9:00 PM

Thank you for providing everyone with a perfect demonstration of how evil you and people who think like you are.

updog on May 11, 2012 at 8:54 PM

John Wayne Gacy seemed to have little regard for human life. I am not sure if these fools compare but to kill you have to think like thuja.

Laters

CW on May 11, 2012 at 9:01 PM

Pro-choicers Nazis aren’t stupid. We all know that abortion genocide is the killing of a member of the species Homo sapien that has the potential to become a human being. We just don’t see any moral objection to such killing.

thuja on May 11, 2012 at 8:49 PM

Congratulations. That’s practically word for word the same rationale used for the “final solution”. Adolph would be proud.

HotAirian on May 11, 2012 at 9:04 PM

Pro-choicers aren’t stupid. We all know that abortion is the killing of a member of the species Homo sapien that has the potential to become a human being. We just don’t see any moral objection to such killing.

thuja on May 11, 2012 at 8:49 PM

This is terrible if true. It is also indefensible and philosophically flawed. You might want to rethink your position. It is untenable and without standing.

Bmore on May 11, 2012 at 9:05 PM

I assume you would find “moral objection” to killing a new-born baby. So the key for you is that it’s ok as long as the baby hasn’t passed through the birth canal yet.

Bitter Clinger on May 11, 2012 at 8:54 PM

I don’t think this deadline is the right way to look at this issue. Instead, I suggest there is obligation to kill as early as possible. Nine months is an irresponsibly long time.

thuja on May 11, 2012 at 9:07 PM

Congratulations. That’s practically word for word the same rationale used for the “final solution”. Adolph would be proud.

HotAirian on May 11, 2012 at 9:04 PM

Normally I’m not a fan of Hitler references in political discussion. However, abortion is the one modern-day issue that compares. When you have tens of millions of American babies slaughtered since 1973 the only word you can use to describe it is holocaust.

updog on May 11, 2012 at 9:07 PM

I don’t think this deadline is the right way to look at this issue. Instead, I suggest there is obligation to kill as early as possible. Nine months is an irresponsibly long time.

thuja on May 11, 2012 at 9:07 PM

Great idea! Let’s get the legislature involved in deciding whether a human being has the right to be treated like a human being – it worked so well during slavery!

updog on May 11, 2012 at 9:09 PM

As a mother to five, one deceased, I wish that KG’s mother would have taken a coat hanger to her own v*g…

skeeterbite on May 11, 2012 at 9:09 PM

This is terrible if true. It is also indefensible and philosophically flawed. You might want to rethink your position. It is untenable and without standing.

Bmore on May 11, 2012 at 9:05 PM

If my position is so flawed, I’m sure it will be easy for you to tell me the flaws. And if you can’t, you should rethink your position.

thuja on May 11, 2012 at 9:10 PM

At best, she’s a ghoul; at worst, she’s a c*nt.

BuckeyeSam on May 11, 2012 at 9:12 PM

Contrast: http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2012/05/11/happy-birthday-bella/

Should be promoted.

davidk on May 11, 2012 at 9:16 PM

thuja on May 11, 2012 at 9:10 PM

I will not lead you, nor force you to drink. You have not done the critical thinking necessary to see your assertion out to its natural conclusion. You are lazy like water if this is the case. It appears that it is. There is no denying the flaw in your thought process and assertion. Start over and think it through honestly and more in depth. Very disappointing.

Bmore on May 11, 2012 at 9:18 PM

thuja = troll

Don’t feed the trolls…

Ace ODale on May 11, 2012 at 9:21 PM

Pro-choicers aren’t stupid. We all know that abortion is the killing of a member of the species Homo sapien that has the potential to become a human being. We just don’t see any moral objection to such killing.

thuja on May 11, 2012 at 8:49 PM

I guess you could say the same thing about killing liberals.

malclave on May 11, 2012 at 9:23 PM

…and to think this b*tch came in as a “blue dog”.

Jesus f**king Christ. I can’t believe she’s really that cold or callous. I think it just demonstrates that many pro-choice people really don’t understand what abortion is. It’s like a blind spot.

MadisonConservative on May 11, 2012 at 8:34 PM

Here’s one of the all-time classics (Warning:NSFHB):

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/18/magazine/18LIVES.html?pagewanted=all

ebrown2 on May 11, 2012 at 9:26 PM

thuja = troll

Don’t feed the trolls…

Ace ODale on May 11, 2012 at 9:21 PM

Even so, what he says is not outside mainstream liberal thought, unfortunately.

updog on May 11, 2012 at 9:31 PM

Pro-choicers aren’t stupid. We all know that abortion is the killing of a member of the species Homo sapien that has the potential to become a human being. We just don’t see any moral objection to such killing.

thuja on May 11, 2012 at 8:49 PM

Hmm. A member of the species Homo Sapien [sic]. But only with the potential to become a human being.

There’s quite a bit of pretzel going on in that statement.

unclesmrgol on May 11, 2012 at 9:33 PM

I don’t think this deadline is the right way to look at this issue. Instead, I suggest there is obligation to kill as early as possible. Nine months is an irresponsibly long time.

thuja on May 11, 2012 at 9:07 PM

Ah, yes, get it early. ‘Cause it’s only a fetus then (the pro-choicers dehumanized rationalization). So what’s the magic moment when this “clump of cells” becomes a human being and it no longer is cool to kill it?

Bitter Clinger on May 11, 2012 at 9:34 PM

Here’s one of the all-time classics (Warning:NSFHB):

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/18/magazine/18LIVES.html?pagewanted=all

ebrown2 on May 11, 2012 at 9:26 PM

Oh my.

Jvette on May 11, 2012 at 9:35 PM

I will not lead you, nor force you to drink. You have not done the critical thinking necessary to see your assertion out to its natural conclusion. You are lazy like water if this is the case. It appears that it is. There is no denying the flaw in your thought process and assertion. Start over and think it through honestly and more in depth. Very disappointing.

Bmore on May 11, 2012 at 9:18 PM

Wow, I have rarely read a more arrogant and self-delusional statement than yours. Let me point out that I at least understand where this pro-life business comes from. I can see that pro-life people are sincere and don’t mean to make a worse world by it. You should at least have the decency to see where pro-choice and pro-abortion come from.

thuja on May 11, 2012 at 9:38 PM

Ah, yes, get it early. ‘Cause it’s only a fetus then (the pro-choicers dehumanized rationalization). So what’s the magic moment when this “clump of cells” becomes a human being and it no longer is cool to kill it?

Bitter Clinger on May 11, 2012 at 9:34 PM

There is something called reading comprehension. I fear you are unfamiliar with the concept. Anyway, if I’m suggesting looking at an issue another way, it’s not particular relevant to bring up the magic moment. It would make sense to say why my other way of looking at the topic is irrelevant.

thuja on May 11, 2012 at 9:44 PM

Uh, Earth to Kirsten:

If you don’t carry the kid to term, you’re not a ‘mom’

Reaganite Republican on May 11, 2012 at 9:47 PM

There is something called reading comprehension. I fear you are unfamiliar with the concept. Anyway, if I’m suggesting looking at an issue another way, it’s not particular relevant to bring up the magic moment. It would make sense to say why my other way of looking at the topic is irrelevant.

thuja on May 11, 2012 at 9:44 PM

My reading comprehension is just fine. You said “Instead, I suggest there is obligation to kill as early as possible.” I’m asking at what point is it too late to kill.

What other way is there to look at this anyway?

Bitter Clinger on May 11, 2012 at 9:48 PM

Nothing says “motherhood” like killing your child.

The_Jacobite on May 11, 2012 at 8:28 P

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Nothing says “motherhood” like the abolition of it.

listens2glenn on May 11, 2012 at 9:53 PM

MadisonConservative on May 11, 2012 at 8:34 PM

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Pro-choicers aren’t stupid. We all know that abortion is the killing of a member of the species Homo sapien that has the potential to become a human being. We just don’t see any moral objection to such killing.

thuja on May 11, 2012 at 8:49 PM

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Thank you for your honesty.

listens2glenn on May 11, 2012 at 9:57 PM

thuja on May 11, 2012 at 9:38 PM

Disappointing, not you, me having thought more highly of you. That is gone. You are lazy like water. I will not bother you again.

Bmore on May 11, 2012 at 9:58 PM

Oh, Bye.

Bmore on May 11, 2012 at 9:59 PM

My reading comprehension is just fine. You said “Instead, I suggest there is obligation to kill as early as possible.” I’m asking at what point is it too late to kill.

What other way is there to look at this anyway?

Bitter Clinger on May 11, 2012 at 9:48 PM

I look at this issue in terms of responsibility. It is the height of irresponsibility for teenage girls to be having babies. I would argue the Judeo-Christian moral codes were intended to prevent that more than all this other silliness that the religious right has invented. I sincerely believe that I am going back to the intent of the Torah. If some abortion is ok, then doesn’t it make to limit abortion by a rule about responsibility and not a rule about some imaginary line. Obviously, the Torah does impose actual infanticide, and that seems fine to me for a society. On the other hand, many Asian cultures used infanticide extensively to keep their population stable. Jews have never attempted to impose their values on foreign cultures. We can’t condemn medieval China or Japan for extensive practice of infanticide. In fact, we would have told the Aztecs, hey dudes, infanticide is way cooler than drinking the blood from a human heart.

thuja on May 11, 2012 at 10:01 PM

Irony is a dish best served cold, and Emily has flash frozen this turkey.

Sorta like getting a Hanukkah card from Magda Goebbels.

spiritof61 on May 11, 2012 at 10:04 PM

Oh, and don’t feed Thuja. Eventually it goes away.

spiritof61 on May 11, 2012 at 10:05 PM

bw222 on May 11, 2012 at 8:46 PM

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It’s not the Middle Ages anymore. Catholics no longer have to obey like sheep the Church’s religious hierarchy.

thuja on May 11, 2012 at 8:51 PM

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The Vatican is NOT the top of the Church hierarchy.

The One who IS the top would like to have a word with you about that. But He’s a gentleman, and will only talk if you’ll listen.

listens2glenn on May 11, 2012 at 10:06 PM

It is the height of irresponsibility for teenage girls to be having babies. I would argue the Judeo-Christian moral codes were intended to prevent that more than all this other silliness that the religious right has invented.

thuja on May 11, 2012 at 10:01 PM

You don’t know squat.

Mary, the mother of Jesus, was no older than sixteen and possibly younger.

davidk on May 11, 2012 at 10:06 PM

Originally known in the House for conservative and centrist liberal views, since her appointment to the Senate, Gillibrand has been seen more as a progressive or Liberal Democrat. In both cases, her viewpoints were significantly defined by her constituency (a heavily Republican congressional district versus a largely liberal US state). In the House, Gillibrand was an opponent of strict gun control, against amnesty for illegal immigrants, and she voted twice against the 2008 bailout of the US financial system. In the Senate she focused on support of gay rights, authored legislation to crack down on illegal guns and gun traffickers, scaled back her former support of gun rights, and changed her views on immigration through support of the DREAM Act; she is best known for successfully championing both the repeal of Don’t ask, don’t tell and the adoption of the James Zadroga 9/11 Health and Compensation Act.
Gillibrand currently resides in Brunswick with her husband, Jonathan Gillibrand, a venture capitalist and British national, and their two sons, Theodore and Henry.

Another duplicitous pos liberal.

Wiki also says

A member of a politically active family, Kirsten Elizabeth Rutnik was born on December 9, 1966, the daughter of Polly Edwina (née Noonan) and Douglas Paul Rutnik. Her father is an attorney and lobbyist and is known for his close ties to Republicans Alfonse D’Amato (former United States senator) and George Pataki (former governor), although he himself is a registered Democrat.[1] Gillibrand’s mother is a retired attorney. The couple opened a law firm and practiced together until they divorced when Gillibrand was 22 years old.[2] Gillibrand has an older brother, Doug Rutnik, and a younger sister, Erin Rutnik Tschantret.[3][4] Her maternal grandmother was Dorothea “Polly” Noonan, founder of the Albany Democratic Women’s Club and a leader in Albany Mayor Erastus Corning’s powerful political machine, which lasted for more than 40 years.[1][3][Note 1] Her ancestry includes Austrian, German, and Irish.[5]

FLconservative on May 11, 2012 at 10:09 PM

Just when you think that this country has sunk pretty low, you read what this evil wench has to say.

crosshugger on May 11, 2012 at 10:09 PM

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