Obama to finally back gay marriage today?

posted at 12:54 pm on May 9, 2012 by Allahpundit

An interview with ABC has been hastily arranged and The One’s senior advisors are suddenly dropping hints to reporters that his “evolution” might at last be complete. In particular, this wink-wink tweet from GQ/Atlantic journo Marc Ambinder sounds like more than idle speculation about what’ll happen with ABC today:

So do I think President Obama will endorse same-sex marriage today? Yes. Yes I do.

Then there’s this:

The White House, in an email update, says @PressSec won’t have a briefing today. Hmm.

Thanks to Biden’s “Meet the Press” comments, I think O’s now caught between irritating his base and irritating swing-state voters. Check out this lefty petition to move the Democratic national convention out of Charlotte in protest of the North Carolina marriage amendment passing last night. Or read this withering Onion goof on Obama’s endless embarrassing equivocation on gay marriage. Jon Stewart hit him on that last night too. That is to say, among liberals, Obama’s position has literally become a punchline. And no wonder: Turns out the leader of the party, who has to face a purple national electorate, is conveniently the only member of the liberal intelligentsia left who still claims to oppose gay marriage.

The more attention his cynical dithering on SSM gets, the bigger his headache in turning out his base and keeping the donations flowing. But of course, the bolder he is in endorsing gay marriage, the bigger his headache with a whole bunch of swing states that have voted to ban SSM. What’s an opportunistic incumbent to do? Looks like his strategy now is simply to get it over with ASAP and then let people forget about it over the next six months. Some key constituencies, like young voters, will cheer. Others, like black voters, might not be thrilled but given their overwhelming support for O the risk that he’ll lose many votes because of this is minimal. Meanwhile, Romney’s unlikely to make it an issue since it’d throw him off his core economic message. (See, e.g., Haley Barbour insisting yesterday that the gay-marriage chatter lately is a Democratic distraction.) Why would Team Mitt roll the dice on a “values” campaign in swing states when they’ve got a much more effective “are you better off than you were four years ago?” message ready to go?

The other consideration for O is that, thanks to media coverage this week, it’s no longer an open secret that he supports gay marriage. It’s not a secret at all: The press corps literally laughs at Carney when he denies it and, as noted, entertainers who are otherwise on his side are starting to make noise. If the media’s going to spend six months telling voters that Obama really does support gay marriage, his protestations to the contrary, then he might as well own up. Otherwise he gets the worst of both worlds, with swing voters convinced that he’s secretly in favor and his base depressed that he’s still trying to keep it secret. By coming clean now, he shows that he kinda sorta has the courage of his convictions — after 16 years of “evolution.”

Update: Lefty Michael Tomasky says this might be O’s best play politically now but it’s bad for the cause of forming bipartisan consensus on gay marriage in the longer term:

There are lots of conservatives in the establishment who support gay marriage–the David Brookses and Ted Olsons, my colleague David Frum, so many others. If Obama appears to those folks to be using support for same-sex marriage as an electoral ploy to help him defeat a candidate all of those people are (presumably) voting for, then they won’t applaud his decision. Politics will be in the way.

But if he does it post-election, next year sometime (this assumes that he wins, which is the risk), all these people will embrace the move, and same-sex marriage will enjoy broad bipartisan support among the intelligentsia.

I know that many of you are going to write, “who cares what David Brooks thinks?”, but you should care for two reasons. First of all, I mean Brooks and the other two I name above as stand-ins for dozens of Republicans and conservatives who wouldn’t be fighting him–and who would be opposing their own people in Congress. Second, when America looks and sees that there is genuine bipartisan support for something, people will be more likely to get behind the program.

No one thinks Obama’s endorsement of gay marriage is an electoral ploy, though. By universal acclaim, it’s his sincerely held belief. The electoral ploy was pretending that he was still “evolving” so as not to alienate working-class voters. And I’d be surprised if anyone he mentions fails to applaud Obama for this, the politics of it notwithstanding. In fact, it’ll be even stronger proof — since the applause will be coming in the middle of a bitter campaign — that there is in fact some support among Republicans for O’s position.


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The polling firm PPP’s tweets tell the true tale that neither the so-called intelligentsia or social-squishes like Allah will admit. The polling that shows half of America is pro SSM is a ridiculous lie– as has been proven in vote after vote. The gay version of the Wilder effect is in full force to the tune of 25%.
Obama was smart to keep hedging. If he now reveals he was lying all along and is in fact an enthusiastic supporter of gay marriage it will cost him dearly at the polls.

AmeriCuda on May 9, 2012 at 1:30 PM

oldroy, while there are plenty of traditional ones, many Catholics don’t seem to care that much about church doctrine when it comes to voting. Look at the support that some of the big pro-abortion politicians get. If the killing of unborn children isn’t enough to make the light bulb go off, what possibly could be?

McDuck on May 9, 2012 at 1:30 PM

he kinda sorta has the courage of his convictions

This might be the funniest thing I’ve read all week. The only time he shows something resembling courage is when he thinks there’s no risk, or when he has no choice. This would fall into the latter category, since he’s being skewered across the political spectrum and ridicule is starting to leak into the non-political domain. When he was able to hide behind his ‘evolving’ BS he was fine with it.

OneFreeMan on May 9, 2012 at 1:31 PM

The more attention his cynical dithering on SSM gets, the bigger his headache in turning out his base and keeping the donations flowing.

Yep….

…….and it gives us “evolutions” like this:

When Obama was getting plenty of Wall St. money and was the exciting new kid on the block….his religion didn’t allow him to support gay marriage…

HOPEFULS DIFFER AS THEY DEBATE GAY MARRIAGE
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/01/us/politics/01marriage.html?em
By PATRICK HEALY
Published: October 31, 2008


Several gay friends and wealthy gay donors to Senator Barack Obama have asked him over the years why, as a matter of logic and fairness, he opposes same-sex marriage even though he has condemned old miscegenation laws that would have barred his black father from marrying his white mother.

The difference, Mr. Obama has told them, is religion.
As a Christian — he is a member of the United Church of Christ — Mr. Obama believes that marriage is a sacred union, a blessing from God, and one that is intended for a man and a woman exclusively,

Now that a lot of that money is not coming his way….he is now more dependent on the money from the gay community.


Obama Banking on Big Donations From Gay Community

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Gay-marriage-campaign-fundraising/2012/05/08/id/438368

Read more on Newsmax.com: Obama Banking on Big Donations From Gay Community
Important: Do You Support Pres. Obama’s Re-Election? Vote Here Now!

As President Barack Obama seeks to deal with the furor surrounding his vague view on gay marriage, he faces the complicating factor that his re-election campaign may be dependent on donations from the gay community.

The campaign is counting on those contributions to make up for money it is losing from other wealthy donors who previously supported the president but were soured by his performance in office, Politico reports.

Gay donors have given more than expected so far, as they were impressed by Obama’s firm stance in overturning the military’s “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy, the news service reports. The importance of gay donors is reflected in the makeup of the Obama campaign’s finance committee. It includes 15 gay men this year, compared to one in 2008, a source told Politico.

…we will be told bow noble and brave Obama was on TV tonight for having this “epiphany” on gay marriage….
……..then they will try and corner Romney on it and deflect from the fact that Obama came upon this “evolution” when he needed money and to tone down his left wing base…nothing more…nothing less.

It’s okay though….Obama knows God will cut him a break because he needs the money.

Baxter Greene on May 9, 2012 at 1:31 PM

I can hear Biden now…… “This President carries a very big stick, and he supports gay marriage.”

Yeah, that will get the Dems over the top.

Cody1991 on May 9, 2012 at 1:31 PM

Buttsy call.

2lbsTest on May 9, 2012 at 1:31 PM

He waited for NC to pass the anti-gay marriage law

portlandon on May 9, 2012 at 1:30 PM

Goodie! Here’s hoping he picks a big fight with NC (’cause he needs to win that state in Nov).

petefrt on May 9, 2012 at 1:33 PM

Buttsy call.

2lbsTest on May 9, 2012 at 1:31 PM

O_O

I laughed but I’m not proud of it.

Bishop on May 9, 2012 at 1:33 PM

youknowit, I agree. He won’t get my vote, but I will give him credit for dropping the act and doing the right if in fact that is what he is going to do.

McDuck on May 9, 2012 at 1:07 PM

Give him credit for being dragged to this point by the threat of widespread public ridicule over his pathetic ‘evolution’ dodge?

OneFreeMan on May 9, 2012 at 1:34 PM

Where’s our resident Mittbot/etch-a-sketch guy/gal?Talk about shaking something up and seeing what comes out. Obamas your man..

sandee on May 9, 2012 at 1:35 PM

This is his only option now. Please do it, Mr. President! A sitting POTUS in favor of gay marriage? FORWARD!

inthemiddle on May 9, 2012 at 1:27 PM

Your day is going to end poorly.

Jabberwock on May 9, 2012 at 1:35 PM

Thanks to Biden’s “Meet the Press” comments, I think O’s now caught between irritating his base and irritating swing-state voters.

Bingo!

petefrt on May 9, 2012 at 1:35 PM

Bye bye North Carolina.

What are the odd the convention will be moved?

Schadenfreude on May 9, 2012 at 1:35 PM

funny, dear leader evolves on gay marriage
mitt flip-flops on immigration

i wish the gop talking heads would point that out when asked by the lsm

cmsinaz on May 9, 2012 at 1:35 PM

Your day year is going to end poorly.

Jabberwock on May 9, 2012 at 1:35 PM

Schadenfreude on May 9, 2012 at 1:35 PM

First it was Van Jones:

http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/van-jones-even-gay-obama-wont-lose-black-vote/459131

then it was Joe Biden’s big schtick comment. Does this explain the composite girlfriend?

DanMan on May 9, 2012 at 1:36 PM

How will Chris Matthews react?

Schadenfreude on May 9, 2012 at 1:19 PM

With a tingle up another guys leg.

buckeyerich on May 9, 2012 at 1:37 PM

Schadenfreude on May 9, 2012 at 1:35 PM

nil methinks

too much invested already there

cmsinaz on May 9, 2012 at 1:37 PM

What are the odd the convention will be moved?

Schadenfreude on May 9, 2012 at 1:35 PM

Funny you should say that. I read almost immediately after the vote was called, a petition was online to do just that…

sandee on May 9, 2012 at 1:37 PM

The new convention site will be San Fran.

Let’s hope so.

fogw on May 9, 2012 at 1:37 PM

Romney and GOP: “are you better off than you were four years ago?”

DNC and Media: “oh look, a shiny!”

Flora Duh on May 9, 2012 at 1:37 PM

What are the odd the convention will be moved?

Schadenfreude on May 9, 2012 at 1:35 PM

Rush said there’s a Dem petition urging just that.

Pass the popcorn, pls.

petefrt on May 9, 2012 at 1:38 PM

Oh please do!!!!

DanaSmiles on May 9, 2012 at 1:39 PM

What are the odd the convention will be moved?

Schadenfreude on May 9, 2012 at 1:35 PM

At this late point about a snowball’s chance in Hell!!!!

logicman_1998 on May 9, 2012 at 1:40 PM

The notion that O’Bozo gets “the courage of his convictions” out of this is absurd. If anything this is going to magnify the mockery for his decades of lies and black pandering.

Jaibones on May 9, 2012 at 1:40 PM

Normally, single sex marriage stops evolution. This could help Obama go the way of the dodo.

WhatNot on May 9, 2012 at 1:40 PM

This is his only option now. Please do it, Mr. President! A sitting POTUS in favor of gay marriage capitulating on gay marriage for money and political gain? FORWARD! STATUS QUO!!

inthemiddle on May 9, 2012 at 1:27 PM

Baxter Greene on May 9, 2012 at 1:41 PM

How will Chris Matthews react?

Schadenfreude on May 9, 2012 at 1:19 PM
With a tingle up another guys leg.

buckeyerich on May 9, 2012 at 1:37 PM

That tingle is something else running down his leg…methinks something yellow!!!

logicman_1998 on May 9, 2012 at 1:41 PM

This is his only option now. Please do it, Mr. President! A sitting POTUS in favor of gay marriage? FORWARD!

inthemiddle on May 9, 2012 at 1:27 PM

So much for being in the middle.

MeatHeadinCA on May 9, 2012 at 1:41 PM

What are the odd the convention will be moved?

Schadenfreude on May 9, 2012 at 1:35 PM

I’d love for them to move it to Richmond. VA is polling in favor of the Dems by significant numbers. If Obama wins VA, game over.

inthemiddle on May 9, 2012 at 1:41 PM

What are the odd the convention will be moved?

Schadenfreude on May 9, 2012 at 1:35 PM

Bring it to Houston! The libs will love the sunshiney climate we have in August…

DanMan on May 9, 2012 at 1:42 PM

@jaketapper flashback, december 2010 > http://t.co/zfrSeZUZ

Flora Duh on May 9, 2012 at 1:45 PM

I don’t see them moving the convention. Even putting aside the practical problems with the idea (having to find a new venue on short notice, extra expense, etc.), it would be an incredibly dumb move from a political POV.

McDuck on May 9, 2012 at 1:45 PM

What are the odd the convention will be moved?

Schadenfreude on May 9, 2012 at 1:35 PM

Probably nil at this point. Don’t forget they were bringing out of state unions to run it, if the convention is moved not only some of the money they have already spent on the prep work will be gone, but now they to spend more on top of that in another state and with another union. That is, if the union lready signed up for NC event will somehow not want entire payment no matter what.

Then there is a BofA tie in, I am sure theres is some monetary incentive there and if the event is moved what happens to that BofA “donation” (read: shakedown).

For libs its all about money.

riddick on May 9, 2012 at 1:47 PM

Obowma’s Teh Ghey…

… Who knew?

Seven Percent Solution on May 9, 2012 at 1:47 PM

I hope not. The more things Obama comes out in favor of, the more things Romney will take credit for.

J.E. Dyer on May 9, 2012 at 1:48 PM

He already backed it years ago.

Akzed on May 9, 2012 at 1:49 PM

This is his only option now. Please do it, Mr. President! A sitting POTUS in favor of gay marriage? FORWARD!

inthemiddle on May 9, 2012 at 1:27 PM

So much for being in the middle.

MeatHeadinCA on May 9, 2012 at 1:41 PM

I think her handle refers to this.

Kataklysmic on May 9, 2012 at 1:49 PM

I hope not. The more things Obama comes out in favor of, the more things Romney will take credit for. J.E. Dyer on May 9, 2012 at 1:48 PM

It’s a sign of the end times.

Akzed on May 9, 2012 at 1:49 PM

it would be an incredi bly dumb move from a political POV.

McDuck on May 9, 2012 at 1:45 PM

We’re talking Democrats, ya know.

Jabberwock on May 9, 2012 at 1:50 PM

It’s okay though….Obama knows God will cut him a break because he needs the money.

Baxter Greene on May 9, 2012 at 1:31 PM

The only God Obama sees is the one in the mirror.

If Obama gets a second term, I wonder if he’ll stop “evolving” and just declare himself a God, like the Caesars used to do.

Gladtobehere on May 9, 2012 at 1:51 PM

I’d love for them to move it to Richmond. VA is polling in favor of the Dems by significant numbers. If Obama wins VA, game over.

inthemiddle on May 9, 2012 at 1:41 PM

That’s funny…
democrats were saying the same thing about NC until this morning.

Virgina RCP average

RCP Average 3/13 – 5/2 – 47.5 44.3 Obama +3.2

…3.2 is “significant numbers”?????….
This doesn’t even take into account the over sampling from 6 to 12 points for democrats in the majority of these polls.

Rassmussen has Romney up in Virgina by +1…..

Only a liberal would see this as “significant”…..

Baxter Greene on May 9, 2012 at 1:51 PM

I hope not. The more things Obama comes out in favor of, the more things Romney will take credit for.

J.E. Dyer on May 9, 2012 at 1:48 PM

Heh!!

Bitter Clinger on May 9, 2012 at 1:52 PM

If Obama gets a second term, I wonder if he’ll stop “evolving” and just declare himself a God, like the Caesars used to do.

Gladtobehere on May 9, 2012 at 1:51 PM

Imagine the Xerxes character from 300 crossed with Urkel. Tell me if ANYONE will take that “God” seriously.

teke184 on May 9, 2012 at 1:52 PM

The only God Obama sees is the one in the mirror.

Gladtobehere on May 9, 2012 at 1:51 PM

Heh!!

………so true.

Baxter Greene on May 9, 2012 at 1:53 PM

What’s Mohammad going to have to say about that?

Axion on May 9, 2012 at 1:54 PM

Sign the petition! Triagulate the DNC, nutroots, and North Carolina. The longer this controversy remains, the better for the GOP.

Lou Budvis on May 9, 2012 at 1:54 PM

This is his only option now. Please do it, Mr. President! A sitting POTUS in favor of gay marriage? FORWARD!

inthemiddle on May 9, 2012 at 1:27 PM

I agree. Etch that sketch, ASAP Barry.

And thanks for handing back North Carolina a little early!

Chuck Schick on May 9, 2012 at 1:55 PM

Romney reiterated his opposition to same-sex marriage in an interview in Fort Lupton, Colo. Wednesday, but declined to comment on Obama’s evolving position on gay marriage.

When reporters asked him following a campaign event in the Denver area for his views on the president and his administration’s positions on same-sex marriage, Romney would not comment other than to say, “Not on the ropeline.”

Earlier Wednesday, in an interview with local Fox affiliate KDVR-TV, Romney said he favors some rights accorded by civil unions but not marriage. Asked about a state civil unions measure failing in the Colorado state legislature on Tuesday, Romney noted that similar issues were raised in Massachusetts during his term as governor.

“I indicated my view, which is I do not favor marriage between people of the same gender, and I do not favor civil unions if they are identical to marriage other than by name,” Romney told KDVR-TV. “My view is the domestic partnership benefits, hospital visitation rights, and the like are appropriate but that the others are not.” Source

Flora Duh on May 9, 2012 at 1:56 PM

VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN: “Now is the time to heed the timeless advice from Teddy Roosevelt: ‘Speak softly and carry a big stick.’”

“I promise you, the president has a big stick.”

I guess this would be the Obama Administration’s second appeal to gay voters.

RBMN on May 9, 2012 at 1:56 PM

El Rushbo just B-slapped a caller over this SSM issue!!..:)

Dire Straits on May 9, 2012 at 1:56 PM

I hope he does. More votes for Romney.

But he won’t. He is Muslim, they would never support gay anything.

stenwin77 on May 9, 2012 at 1:56 PM

The economy isn’t enough for Romney. The original “it’s the economy, stupid” candidacy of Clinton made a strong point of distinguishing itself from Bush in being more hawkish on Bosnia. (In the event, of course, Clinton’s hand had to be forced by Dole, but that’s another matter.) Clinton may have needed a foreign policy talking point to demonstrate he was up to the task, but Romney too will need more than “I’ll do the opposite of the other guy.”

In terms of enthusiasm, gay marriage might not be bad for Republicans, ie, there are more swing voters who find the idea bizarre and completely exceptional in the course of human history (unlike infanticide, which has been widely practiced) than there are who feel it’s an essential part of a gay person’s human rights.

bobs1196 on May 9, 2012 at 1:56 PM

Bye bye North Carolina.

What are the odd the convention will be moved?

Schadenfreude on May 9, 2012 at 1:35 PM

Everyone should sign that petition to get the DNC convetion moved out of NC.

Saul Alinsky just served up a hanging curve ball:

Make the enemy live up to their own book of rules.

Heh.

Bruno Strozek on May 9, 2012 at 1:56 PM

TIME OUT, while the President consults his Etch-A-Sketch to see how his position has evolved.

RSbrewer on May 9, 2012 at 1:58 PM

The only God Obama sees is the one in the mirror.

Gladtobehere on May 9, 2012 at 1:51 PM

Heh!!

………so true.

Baxter Greene on May 9, 2012 at 1:53 PM

+ 100..Hear!!..Hear!!..:)

Dire Straits on May 9, 2012 at 1:59 PM

On ABC “If I were gay, I’d look like me” — Obama

Schadenfreude on May 9, 2012 at 1:27 PM

OMFG! +1000

Dark Star on May 9, 2012 at 1:30 PM

You used the F in this thread…

Schadenfreude on May 9, 2012 at 1:59 PM

None of this was a mistake

Go back months ago, when Barry first came out against the NC amendment even being on the ballot.

Move to Dan Savage on a TV show promotional tour dressed as a Anti-Bullying campaign.

Head to Biden, who gets asked on Meet The Freakin Press, which is has been the house o’ handjobs for Barry since ’07, and they were the ones to press Biden? Please.

NC Amendment passes.

Barry comes out – and will blame North Carolina.

Watch.

So by blaming NC, and still holding his convention there, he’s going to position himself as the leader taking the progressive fight to the heart of southern, conservative, bigotry.

This is how he shames and tampers black, anti-gay marriage voters who might stay home in November.

Gay money helps cover convention costs, along with union money…

…and the “Labor” fight will be his next big fear & loathing move, come Scott Walker’s re-election.

Truth is, Barry doesn’t want a second-term where he has to govern in the middle.

Barry wants to win on an open, progressive platform, act like its not, and then pull a W the first two years of his second term, and “spend his capital”.

budfox on May 9, 2012 at 1:59 PM

I think her handle refers to this.

Kataklysmic on May 9, 2012 at 1:49 PM

Is that what it is? I thought she was in the middle of a coma.

As for the Dim convention, I suggest they move it to Phoenix. We all know how much Obama loves Arizona, and Phoenix is so pleasant in the summertime . . . .

AZCoyote on May 9, 2012 at 1:59 PM

You used the F in this thread…

Schadenfreude on May 9, 2012 at 1:59 PM

Fluke??!!??..:)

Dire Straits on May 9, 2012 at 2:00 PM

First Walker wins, then Lugar goes down, now Obama is about to support SSM? Is Christmas coming early?

Everyone knows that he doesn’t believe in it (I firmly think he’s a traditionalist), but what will he gain politically?

Midwestprincesse on May 9, 2012 at 2:01 PM

Quick, someone hand Bam and Biden a towel. Barack has made up his mind.

jan3 on May 9, 2012 at 2:02 PM

Obama to finally back gay marriage today?

Wrong title – s/b

Obama finally comes out

Schadenfreude on May 9, 2012 at 2:03 PM

I expect Obama will say he believes in traditional marriage, as a personal matter, but he is not against same-sex marriage. As president he will not advance the cause, letting the current processes (re: court challenges) play out.

AverageJoe on May 9, 2012 at 1:02 PM

As convoluted as that sounds, I think you’ve nailed it.

Paul-Cincy on May 9, 2012 at 1:05 PM

I think Joe nails it exactly because it sounds so convoluted. Obama is going to try to be as evasive as possible on this while still ginning up the base. It will be fun to see all the pundits who this morning where proclaiming loudly that Obama is POTUS & needs to lead on this issue by coming out in support of SSM now!!!!! meekly eat their peas after his non-answer answer.

Dark Star on May 9, 2012 at 2:04 PM

(I firmly think he’s a traditionalist

Midwestprincesse on May 9, 2012 at 2:01 PM

…and the moon is made of blue cheese.

Schadenfreude on May 9, 2012 at 2:05 PM

Everyone knows that he doesn’t believe in it (I firmly think he’s a traditionalist), but what will he gain politically?

Midwestprincesse on May 9, 2012 at 2:01 PM

Even if you just limit it to Hollywood, the campaign donor money available for this is huge. It will make up for some of the Wall Street money that disappeared.

RBMN on May 9, 2012 at 2:05 PM

Romney’s finally gonna get an inside track with Latinos!

El_Terrible on May 9, 2012 at 2:07 PM

I hope he does. More votes for Romney.

But he won’t. He is Muslim, they would never support gay anything.

stenwin77 on May 9, 2012 at 1:56 PM

1. The pretzeling Mitt will take on topic is already schadenfreudig to watch.

2. How come no one talks about the risks of losing the muzzie constituency?

Schadenfreude on May 9, 2012 at 2:07 PM

It’s the late 1700s ………….

Madison: “Should we include a provision for men marrying other men?”

Jefferson: “WTF?” “Marriage is a state matter, and should be left to the states. it is not a Federal matter, and hence should be left out of the Constitution entirely.”

fogw on May 9, 2012 at 1:22 PM

FIFY

gravityman on May 9, 2012 at 2:07 PM

How many people will likely change their vote over an issue like this? To those people for whom gay rights/marriage is their “dealbreaker” issue, they’re already voting Democrat. They may be mildly annoyed at Obama for not showing outright support, but there is no doubt what box they are checking in November.

Obama has nothing to lose by “coming out” on this issue. Gay Marriage is pretty black and white — you either support it or you don’t. If liberals want to make this into their distraction issue, I say go right ahead. I’m more concerned over the impact of the faux war on women, because issues of health are a lot more “grey” and easier to manipulate emotionally.

Personally, I’m pro-gay marriage. But I won’t be voting for Obama over it, because what use is it for people of all sexual orientations to be able to establish [legal] family units if nobody has the money, jobs, and freedom to take care of their families as they see fit?

Violina23 on May 9, 2012 at 2:09 PM

Gallup Romney +3 Rasmussen Romney +5

Rusty Allen on May 9, 2012 at 2:09 PM

$5 says he’s calling around for a church to announce it in.

rogerb on May 9, 2012 at 2:09 PM

Setting up the gay community to take the blame for Obama’s loss in November. We’re racist AND homophobic, don’t ya know.

monalisa on May 9, 2012 at 2:09 PM

Clinton was the first Black President.

Obama will be the first Gay President?

faraway on May 9, 2012 at 2:10 PM

but what will he gain politically?

Midwestprincesse on May 9, 2012 at 2:01 PM

Maybe $$$. Not one vote.
If anytning, he will lose some votes.

Jabberwock on May 9, 2012 at 2:10 PM

He endorses gay marriage and this gives him the impetus to move the convention out of NC, where the wheels were coming off anyway.

CycloneCDB on May 9, 2012 at 2:11 PM

Buzzfeed shows doc that in 1996 Obama said he supported gay marriage…so he really was for it before he was against it..

http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/an-obama-gay-marriage-timeline

crazywater on May 9, 2012 at 2:16 PM

I’m not sure why everyone keeps thinking his refusal to support same-sex marriage is a political ploy.

I would imagine with his Islamic upbringing it is quite offensive to his sensibilities.

I think it’s just the opposite. I think he personally is against it and the political ploy is making everyone think he’s “evolving”.

ButterflyDragon on May 9, 2012 at 2:18 PM

Whatever is said, he and Mooch will be eating burgers and fries, while telling us to eat arugula and blocking food stamp recipients from buying potatoes.

so-notbuyingit on May 9, 2012 at 2:20 PM

1. The pretzeling Mitt will take on topic is already schadenfreudig to watch.

2. How come no one talks about the risks of losing the muzzie constituency?

Schadenfreude on May 9, 2012 at 2:07 PM

They’ll see this as another Obama attempt to destabilize America. He might even get more Muslim money.

Gladtobehere on May 9, 2012 at 2:21 PM

Sure, he gains money, but I still think he’s a traditionalist in terms of marriage between one man and one woman. He’s done everything else at a fair pace and for his base. Nothing was shocking.

Midwestprincesse on May 9, 2012 at 2:21 PM

I dedicate this to President Barack H. 0bama.

This is what’s going on inside his head.

Best Pearl Jam video ever.

Watch for his guest appearance at 2:00.

“It’s EVOLUTION, BABYYYY!”

cane_loader on May 9, 2012 at 2:23 PM

Please Obama, please, come out of the closet. Romney is the luckiest person in Presidential politics. This is a gift to Romney and signals that Obama is in serious trouble with his base. Does he defend marriage and keep blacks or does he come out against marriage maintaining gay and lesbian fundraising and lose 15-20% black American vote.

Obama’s brain;

For it, against it, for it, against it, or maybe both.

Checkmate!

Please, hold your applause

jjnco73 on May 9, 2012 at 2:23 PM

Move the convention? Awww…they already picked barbecue sauce.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/05/08/3224936/dnc-chooses-official-barbecue.html

rubberneck on May 9, 2012 at 2:24 PM

Buzzfeed shows doc that in 1996 Obama said he supported gay marriage…so he really was for it before he was against it..

http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/an-obama-gay-marriage-timeline

crazywater on May 9, 2012 at 2:16 PM

I feel the same way about Romney’s position on gay marriage. It’s hard to figure out between Obama and Romney which is the bigger liar.

Note: I’m voting in November for Romney to get rid of Obama. Better half an Obama than the full Obama up-you-know-where.

Gladtobehere on May 9, 2012 at 2:24 PM

Others, like black voters, might not be thrilled but given their overwhelming support for O the risk that he’ll lose many votes because of this is minimal.

Their racism won’t allow them to vote otherwise (generalizing, of course). In Chicago, when Harold Washington ran for mayor, I mentioned his conviction on tax evasion and resulting jail time and also having had his law license suspended for other offences years before the election to a black associate of mine and his reply was “He’s not the best candidate for sure but he’s the only one that’s black”. That pretty much sums it up…

Big John on May 9, 2012 at 2:27 PM

You know, if Obama does say that he supports same-sex marriage, this would be an historic event. It might be the first time he ever publicly told the truth.

The Rogue Tomato on May 9, 2012 at 2:28 PM

Can’t imagine anything changing anyone’s mind about this guy at this late date.

He’s that polarizing.

Cleombrotus on May 9, 2012 at 2:28 PM

I bet someone’s leg is tingling.

Little Boomer on May 9, 2012 at 2:29 PM

I don’t see how Obama threads this needle, he’s screwed either way.

It’s nice to see a Social issue blow up badly in Democrats’ faces instead of ours.

My advice to Republicans: Shut the hell up about it and let Democrats destroy themselves with it. Making it a main campaign theme will only unite the Left.

BradTank on May 9, 2012 at 2:30 PM

Obama to finally back himself into a corner over gay marriage today?

iurockhead on May 9, 2012 at 2:30 PM

Clinton was the first Black President.

Obama will be the first Gay President?

faraway on May 9, 2012 at 2:10 PM

The first Gay Black President. Obama continues being unprecedented. Maybe in a second term he’ll get a sex-change too!

Gladtobehere on May 9, 2012 at 2:31 PM

Note: I’m voting in November for Romney to get rid of Obama. Better half an Obama than the full Obama up-you-know-where.

Gladtobehere on May 9, 2012 at 2:24 PM

I don’t think Romney, or anyone else not in the socialist camp for that matter, will actively try to destroy America’s financial and world standings like Obama appears to be doing. Therefore Romney is no “half Obama”…

Big John on May 9, 2012 at 2:32 PM

So the poll numbers are so bad, our Dear Leader is finally going to get off the dime and make a decision?

Or was the decision made by someone else?

And here Barry thought he’d get all the way to the elections by voting PRESENT!

GarandFan on May 9, 2012 at 2:33 PM

Allah, you must feel blessed. The stories about this election practically write themselves.

Gladtobehere on May 9, 2012 at 2:34 PM

Can’t imagine anything changing anyone’s mind about this guy at this late date.

Cleombrotus on May 9, 2012 at 2:28 PM

I can’t see what it does for him. Even if he comes out in full-throated support of legitimizing sodomite relationships, how many people are single issue voters on gay marriage?

Happy Nomad on May 9, 2012 at 2:36 PM

The first Gay Black President. Obama continues being unprecedented. Maybe in a second term he’ll get a sex-change too!

Gladtobehere on May 9, 2012 at 2:31 PM

There’s a pre-op in that household but I’m not sure it is Barry.

teke184 on May 9, 2012 at 2:36 PM

I don’t think Romney, or anyone else not in the socialist camp for that matter, will actively try to destroy America’s financial and world standings like Obama appears to be doing. Therefore Romney is no “half Obama”…

Big John on May 9, 2012 at 2:32 PM

Big John, are you familiar with Mittens record in Massachusetts? If not, when you have time read The Romney Scorecard: RINO. While I don’t agree with all of the conclusions, the basic facts of Romney’s record speak for themselves.

Gladtobehere on May 9, 2012 at 2:40 PM

He already backed it years ago.

Akzed on May 9, 2012 at 1:49 PM

GREAT link! Nice job!

herm2416 on May 9, 2012 at 2:41 PM

The difference, Mr. Obama has told them, is religion.
As a Christian — he is a member of the United Church of Christ — Mr. Obama believes that marriage is a sacred union, a blessing from God, and one that is intended for a man and a woman exclusively,

The United Church of Christ is one of the most liberal mainstream denominations in America. They long ago accepted gay clergy, and are currently on the forefront of churches promoting SSM. Trinity UCC Church must have walked a fine line accepting the UCC pro-gay push while being a “congregation which is Unashamedly Black”.

AverageJoe on May 9, 2012 at 2:43 PM

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