Obama to finally back gay marriage today?

posted at 12:54 pm on May 9, 2012 by Allahpundit

An interview with ABC has been hastily arranged and The One’s senior advisors are suddenly dropping hints to reporters that his “evolution” might at last be complete. In particular, this wink-wink tweet from GQ/Atlantic journo Marc Ambinder sounds like more than idle speculation about what’ll happen with ABC today:

So do I think President Obama will endorse same-sex marriage today? Yes. Yes I do.

Then there’s this:

The White House, in an email update, says @PressSec won’t have a briefing today. Hmm.

Thanks to Biden’s “Meet the Press” comments, I think O’s now caught between irritating his base and irritating swing-state voters. Check out this lefty petition to move the Democratic national convention out of Charlotte in protest of the North Carolina marriage amendment passing last night. Or read this withering Onion goof on Obama’s endless embarrassing equivocation on gay marriage. Jon Stewart hit him on that last night too. That is to say, among liberals, Obama’s position has literally become a punchline. And no wonder: Turns out the leader of the party, who has to face a purple national electorate, is conveniently the only member of the liberal intelligentsia left who still claims to oppose gay marriage.

The more attention his cynical dithering on SSM gets, the bigger his headache in turning out his base and keeping the donations flowing. But of course, the bolder he is in endorsing gay marriage, the bigger his headache with a whole bunch of swing states that have voted to ban SSM. What’s an opportunistic incumbent to do? Looks like his strategy now is simply to get it over with ASAP and then let people forget about it over the next six months. Some key constituencies, like young voters, will cheer. Others, like black voters, might not be thrilled but given their overwhelming support for O the risk that he’ll lose many votes because of this is minimal. Meanwhile, Romney’s unlikely to make it an issue since it’d throw him off his core economic message. (See, e.g., Haley Barbour insisting yesterday that the gay-marriage chatter lately is a Democratic distraction.) Why would Team Mitt roll the dice on a “values” campaign in swing states when they’ve got a much more effective “are you better off than you were four years ago?” message ready to go?

The other consideration for O is that, thanks to media coverage this week, it’s no longer an open secret that he supports gay marriage. It’s not a secret at all: The press corps literally laughs at Carney when he denies it and, as noted, entertainers who are otherwise on his side are starting to make noise. If the media’s going to spend six months telling voters that Obama really does support gay marriage, his protestations to the contrary, then he might as well own up. Otherwise he gets the worst of both worlds, with swing voters convinced that he’s secretly in favor and his base depressed that he’s still trying to keep it secret. By coming clean now, he shows that he kinda sorta has the courage of his convictions — after 16 years of “evolution.”

Update: Lefty Michael Tomasky says this might be O’s best play politically now but it’s bad for the cause of forming bipartisan consensus on gay marriage in the longer term:

There are lots of conservatives in the establishment who support gay marriage–the David Brookses and Ted Olsons, my colleague David Frum, so many others. If Obama appears to those folks to be using support for same-sex marriage as an electoral ploy to help him defeat a candidate all of those people are (presumably) voting for, then they won’t applaud his decision. Politics will be in the way.

But if he does it post-election, next year sometime (this assumes that he wins, which is the risk), all these people will embrace the move, and same-sex marriage will enjoy broad bipartisan support among the intelligentsia.

I know that many of you are going to write, “who cares what David Brooks thinks?”, but you should care for two reasons. First of all, I mean Brooks and the other two I name above as stand-ins for dozens of Republicans and conservatives who wouldn’t be fighting him–and who would be opposing their own people in Congress. Second, when America looks and sees that there is genuine bipartisan support for something, people will be more likely to get behind the program.

No one thinks Obama’s endorsement of gay marriage is an electoral ploy, though. By universal acclaim, it’s his sincerely held belief. The electoral ploy was pretending that he was still “evolving” so as not to alienate working-class voters. And I’d be surprised if anyone he mentions fails to applaud Obama for this, the politics of it notwithstanding. In fact, it’ll be even stronger proof — since the applause will be coming in the middle of a bitter campaign — that there is in fact some support among Republicans for O’s position.


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He was against it before he was for it and vice-versa, like he was/is on anything else.

Schadenfreude on May 9, 2012 at 12:55 PM

Obama is teh ghey.

wildcat72 on May 9, 2012 at 12:56 PM

Present!!!!!

/ BHO

antipc on May 9, 2012 at 12:56 PM

Obama’s coming out on the subject of gay marriage?

So many double entendres, so little time.

teke184 on May 9, 2012 at 12:56 PM

What time is it?

Weight of Glory on May 9, 2012 at 12:57 PM

He has to. Cats outta the bag.
Get it over with and start justifying on the campaign trail.
Hope it calms down by October.

Jabberwock on May 9, 2012 at 12:57 PM

Pitching and catching on the same issue. Way to go, Emperor God-King Obama I!!1!

Jeddite on May 9, 2012 at 12:58 PM

Even blue state Minnesota bans gay marriage, PBHO is going to lop off his own head if he decides to…uh…come out and support it.

Bishop on May 9, 2012 at 12:58 PM

Even blue state Minnesota bans gay marriage, PBHO is going to lop off his own head if he decides to…uh…come out and support it.

Bishop on May 9, 2012 at 12:58 PM

There has been speculation that Obama’s facade on gay marriage is coverup for the fact that he switch hits.

wildcat72 on May 9, 2012 at 12:59 PM

If Obama makes a public endorsement of gay marriage, he stands to lose a big swath of his much-beholden base…Blacks and Hispanics.

The reply from most gays across America is and will remain, “It’s still the economy, stupid!!!”

coldwarrior on May 9, 2012 at 1:00 PM

Gay money has not replaced Wall Street money, it has joined it, both 1%rs, financing Obama, with Soros.

He goes to LA tomorrow, to rake in big gay dough.

Schadenfreude on May 9, 2012 at 1:00 PM

Well, Barry has got to talk about something, doesn’t he? We certainly cannot talk about our slowing economy or the European train wreck, now can we?

Punchenko on May 9, 2012 at 1:00 PM

A Hail Mary pass in the first quarter?

Desperation time.

PattyJ on May 9, 2012 at 1:01 PM

This gay republican supports Obama’s position — if he “comes out” in support for equality today. Still won’t be voting for him though.

youknowit on May 9, 2012 at 1:01 PM

“Leaning Forward” is the best slogan for the lefties, in all regards.

Schadenfreude on May 9, 2012 at 1:01 PM

There are lots of conservatives in the establishment who support gay marriage

Oh yeah. Legions. Hordes. A veritable cornucopia. A plethora.

Redefining marriage? This is a big loser for Obama. It will wake people up.

Paul-Cincy on May 9, 2012 at 1:01 PM

Gutsy!

a capella on May 9, 2012 at 1:02 PM

He goes to LA tomorrow, to rake in big gay dough.

Schadenfreude on May 9, 2012 at 1:00 PM

This is what is motivating the outing.

derecho on May 9, 2012 at 1:02 PM

If he does endorse it, expect the humpbot to be dusted off today.

Schadenfreude on May 9, 2012 at 1:02 PM

Gay money has not replaced Wall Street money, it has joined it, both 1%rs, financing Obama, with Soros.

He goes to LA tomorrow, to rake in big gay dough.

Schadenfreude on May 9, 2012 at 1:00 PM

Dirty, glittery money!

Punchenko on May 9, 2012 at 1:02 PM

Anderson Cooper was pretty rough on the Obama economy last week.
Obama wants him off his back. ( some sarc)

Jabberwock on May 9, 2012 at 1:02 PM

I expect Obama will say he believes in traditional marriage, as a personal matter, but he is not against same-sex marriage. As president he will not advance the cause, letting the current processes (re: court challenges) play out.

AverageJoe on May 9, 2012 at 1:02 PM

This is what is motivating the outing.

derecho on May 9, 2012 at 1:02 PM

Not really, this adds to the number one driver, his nature.

Schadenfreude on May 9, 2012 at 1:03 PM

This gay republican supports Obama’s position — if he “comes out” in support for equality today. Still won’t be voting for him though.

youknowit on May 9, 2012 at 1:01 PM

You are a real patriot, sir. :-)

Punchenko on May 9, 2012 at 1:03 PM

If he does come out in favor before the election, I will be pleasantly surprised. That would make two whole things he’s done that I like. (Obviously giving the OK to the OBL kill is the other.)

McDuck on May 9, 2012 at 1:04 PM

Obama. On the down low. So cool.

DanMan on May 9, 2012 at 1:04 PM

The lengths this president and his party will go to avoid discussing their atrocious record and economic amateurism is astonishing to watch…

Common Sense Floridian on May 9, 2012 at 1:04 PM

This will only help him with the gay and youth constituencies – both of whom vote (D) overwhelmingly anyway.

It will hurt him with middle-America.

I think this is a net loss for Obama, and clearly so does he.

Thank you, Joe Biden?

Washington Nearsider on May 9, 2012 at 1:04 PM

…no guts!
…no glory!

KOOLAID2 on May 9, 2012 at 1:04 PM

If Obama makes a public endorsement of gay marriage, he stands to lose a big swath of his much-beholden base…Blacks and Hispanics.coldwarrior on May 9, 2012 at 1:00 PM

Blacks, no. Hispanics,…maybe. They support him for different reasons.

a capella on May 9, 2012 at 1:05 PM

I have always been not opposed to allowing the prohibition of not being in a loving non-homosexual civil marriage. It has never not been my intent to always not suppport neither gay marriage nor traditional marriage. Are we now clear?

- Obama’s evolved position statement

Weight of Glory on May 9, 2012 at 1:05 PM

I expect Obama will say he believes in traditional marriage, as a personal matter, but he is not against same-sex marriage. As president he will not advance the cause, letting the current processes (re: court challenges) play out.

AverageJoe on May 9, 2012 at 1:02 PM

As convoluted as that sounds, I think you’ve nailed it.

Paul-Cincy on May 9, 2012 at 1:05 PM

If Obama makes a public endorsement of gay marriage, he stands to lose a big swath of his much-beholden base…Blacks and Hispanics.

The reply from most gays across America is and will remain, “It’s still the economy, stupid!!!”

coldwarrior on May 9, 2012 at 1:00 PM

That’s wishful thinking, unfortunately. Barack could sodomize a ________ (take your pick) in public and they’d still vote for him.

SouthernGent on May 9, 2012 at 1:05 PM

Closets are for clothes, Barry.

ratherbskiing on May 9, 2012 at 1:06 PM

If Obama makes a public endorsement of gay marriage, he stands to lose a big swath of his much-beholden base…Blacks and Hispanics.

The reply from most gays across America is and will remain, “It’s still the economy, stupid!!!”

coldwarrior on May 9, 2012 at 1:00 PM

S/b “non-white-Hispanics”, don’t forget. Plus, you left out the white hicks from everywhere, whom he needs desperately to win.

Schadenfreude on May 9, 2012 at 1:06 PM

He is backed up against the ropes at this point throwing punches aimlessly…..

Rohall1215 on May 9, 2012 at 1:06 PM

youknowit, I agree. He won’t get my vote, but I will give him credit for dropping the act and doing the right if in fact that is what he is going to do.

McDuck on May 9, 2012 at 1:07 PM

That’s wishful thinking, unfortunately. Barack could sodomize a ________ (take your pick) in public and they’d still vote for him.

SouthernGent on May 9, 2012 at 1:05 PM

Only the blacks would…not the Latinos and definitely not the white rubes, from the left to the right.

Schadenfreude on May 9, 2012 at 1:07 PM

I just wonder how many people will even pay attention.

earlgrey133 on May 9, 2012 at 1:07 PM

Schadenfreude on May 9, 2012 at 1:02 PM

REPRODUCTIVE-MINDED ROBOT!
REPRODUCTIVE-MINDED ROBOT!
*swiped from Sekhmet*

annoyinglittletwerp on May 9, 2012 at 1:08 PM

Closets are for clothes, Barry.

ratherbskiing on May 9, 2012 at 1:06 PM

… and Christmas presents.

Punchenko on May 9, 2012 at 1:08 PM

Thanks to Biden’s “Meet the Press” comments

“Why the $%#*& did I keep Biden on the ticket?”
/PBHO

Bitter Clinger on May 9, 2012 at 1:08 PM

“Let me be clear. As I’ve always said, I fully support the non-supporting of gay marriage within a supporting framework of supportive non-supporting. Oh..I also eat dog. Thank you and good night.”

-PBHO

Bishop on May 9, 2012 at 1:09 PM

People lie to pollsters. Nov. will be a bloodbath.

Schadenfreude on May 9, 2012 at 1:09 PM

I hope he comes out today with a (ahem) full throated endorsement of gay marriage. Let the hemmoraging of Latino voters commence!

Kataklysmic on May 9, 2012 at 1:09 PM

Rendell telling the Boy in the High Chair to “man up” probably left a mark.

MNHawk on May 9, 2012 at 1:09 PM

Well, “leaning forward” is just another way of saying “bend over!”.

Valkyriepundit on May 9, 2012 at 1:09 PM

Anything to take attention off the economy.

midgeorgian on May 9, 2012 at 1:10 PM

I have always been not opposed to allowing the prohibition of not being in a loving non-homosexual civil marriage. It has never not been my intent to always not suppport neither gay marriage nor traditional marriage. Are we now clear?
- Obama’s evolved position statement

Weight of Glory on May 9, 2012 at 1:05 PM

Crystal
/////

Bitter Clinger on May 9, 2012 at 1:10 PM

Ballsy.

fogw on May 9, 2012 at 1:12 PM

McDuck on May 9, 2012 at 1:07 PM

It’s hard to believe that he will unequivocally endorse SSM; however, if he doesn’t — and continues the charade — that will piss off his base and gay voters. I hope he does though, just in general, for the nation and equality.

youknowit on May 9, 2012 at 1:12 PM

What time is it?

Weight of Glory on May 9, 2012 at 12:57 PM

I was thinking the same thing. Working overtime today, AP?

Bitter Clinger on May 9, 2012 at 1:13 PM

I can’t wait for Mitt’s take. It’ll be fun to watch Obama and Mitt pretzel themselves over this, while the land is near a Niagara cliff economically and otherwise.

Schadenfreude on May 9, 2012 at 1:13 PM

Dem turnout in NC was 300K+ more than GOP and Amendment 1 passed by a landslide. Spin that, Barack.

Pablo on May 9, 2012 at 1:13 PM

He goes to LA tomorrow, to rake in big

gay dough

.

Schadenfreude on May 9, 2012 at 1:00 PM

Is that like Regular Playdough, but with Glitter in it?

portlandon on May 9, 2012 at 1:13 PM

What time is it?

Weight of Glory on May 9, 2012 at 12:57 PM

I was thinking the same thing. Working overtime today, AP?

Bitter Clinger on May 9, 2012 at 1:13 PM

He’s oiling the humpbot for later.

Schadenfreude on May 9, 2012 at 1:13 PM

Forward…sort of…maybe…

PatriotRider on May 9, 2012 at 1:14 PM

It really comes off as desperation to run out there on the day after the NC vote and when he loses 10 WV counties to an inmate in a primary where only Dems are voting.

Happy Nomad on May 9, 2012 at 1:15 PM

He’s playing Rope-a-Dope against himself…

PatriotRider on May 9, 2012 at 1:15 PM

Fox/Meghan Kelley and Ed Henry were having a good time with the “evolution” just now.

JPeterman on May 9, 2012 at 1:15 PM

while the land is near a Niagara cliff economically and otherwise.

Schadenfreude on May 9, 2012 at 1:13 PM

What the hell do you think forward means?

Happy Nomad on May 9, 2012 at 1:16 PM

The tide is turning the same way on the economy, jobs and etc., stupid.

Schadenfreude on May 9, 2012 at 1:17 PM

I should care what Brooks says? Uhmmm…I haven’t read an opinion of his in years….or Frum as well. I can’t take serious writers who are captivated by the Vegas act in the White House. I mean, Brooks loves the crease in Obama’s pants, which will make him a great president. What an ass.

rubberneck on May 9, 2012 at 1:18 PM

What the hell do you think forward means?

Happy Nomad on May 9, 2012 at 1:16 PM

Talk about telepathy – I answered you while you were typing.

Schadenfreude on May 9, 2012 at 1:19 PM

Dem turnout in NC was 300K+ more than GOP and Amendment 1 passed by a landslide. Spin that, Barack.

Pablo on May 9, 2012 at 1:13 PM

ouch!

DanMan on May 9, 2012 at 1:19 PM

For ward? It should be For nothing .. The man has absolutely no credibility…

sandee on May 9, 2012 at 1:19 PM

How will Chris Matthews react?

Schadenfreude on May 9, 2012 at 1:19 PM

It really comes off as desperation to run out there on the day after the NC vote and when he loses 10 WV counties to an inmate in a primary where only Dems are voting.

Happy Nomad on May 9, 2012 at 1:15 PM

Heh. Yeah, it’s the most transparent thing he’s ever done.

a capella on May 9, 2012 at 1:19 PM

Anybody got some firm evidence of how Catholic and especially Catholic minorities are going to view this? Will this finally trip a light bulb in Catholic voters heads?

oldroy on May 9, 2012 at 1:20 PM

By Friday PBHO will be claiming that he is 1/32 gay on his mother’s side, and that you can tell so by his great-great grandfather’s high and prominent….uhhh….

Bishop on May 9, 2012 at 1:20 PM

Yeah, he’ll be lauded and praised like never before for this “evolution”. Nothing but a bunch of bs, and he might get some backlash in certain swing states. Pretty sure he can say goodbye to winning NC this time, anyway.

changer1701 on May 9, 2012 at 1:21 PM

And how about the Jewish vote?

oldroy on May 9, 2012 at 1:21 PM

It’s the late 1700s ………….

Madison: “Should we include a provision for men marrying other men?”

Jefferson: “WTF?”

fogw on May 9, 2012 at 1:22 PM

This gay pandering cycle is almost complete.

Pork-Chop on May 9, 2012 at 1:22 PM

that there is in fact some support among Republicans for O’s position.

There is more support among Democrats for tradition marriage than there are among Republicans for gay marriage.

ninjapirate on May 9, 2012 at 1:22 PM

How will Chris Matthews react?

Schadenfreude on May 9, 2012 at 1:19 PM

Are you kidding? All his legs will be tingling.

Bitter Clinger on May 9, 2012 at 1:23 PM

Whoa. What if he pulled a Victor/Victoria on us?

Greek Fire on May 9, 2012 at 1:23 PM

Same sex marriage?

Thats above my pay grade.

BobMbx on May 9, 2012 at 1:24 PM

SCOAMF is a homo and it’s about time to come on out of the closet.

jukin3 on May 9, 2012 at 1:24 PM

Oh, so Robin Roberts of ABC Good Morning America will be the one interviewing Obama and asking him the dreaded question about SSM. I expect her to fawn over his clarifying answer and explain how gutsey it is for him to stand on the side of “progress”. Anyone wonder why Ms. Roberts was chosen instead of say a white male like the other friendly anchor Stephanopoulos?

AverageJoe on May 9, 2012 at 1:24 PM

Obama needs money. He’s finally probing gay assets for campaign cash.

RBMN on May 9, 2012 at 1:24 PM

It’s all about the gay wampum.

The Rogue Tomato on May 9, 2012 at 1:25 PM

Whoa. What if he pulled a Victor/Victoria on us?

Greek Fire on May 9, 2012 at 1:23 PM

Barackette Obama?

Bitter Clinger on May 9, 2012 at 1:25 PM

By Friday PBHO will be claiming that he is 1/32 gay on his mother’s side

Bishop on May 9, 2012 at 1:20 PM

Nah, he’ll say that if he had a son who was gay, he would look like him.

But we already know this.

Cody1991 on May 9, 2012 at 1:26 PM

This gay pandering cycle is almost complete.

Pork-Chop on May 9, 2012 at 1:22 PM

No real men left.

We are all gay now.

Starnesville proceeds to near completion.

Rome took 400 years to go under.

The U.S. will take 40, and the beg. was a while ago.

Schadenfreude on May 9, 2012 at 1:26 PM

I am ready for the mostly white liberal elites democrats to start attacking the blacks and Hispanics, the majority of which oppose gay marriage, for their strong cultural and religious beliefs. This should be interesting for these groups to feel the hate which comes from the mostly white liberal elites.

DVPTexFla on May 9, 2012 at 1:27 PM

On ABC “If I were gay, I’d look like me” — Obama

Schadenfreude on May 9, 2012 at 1:27 PM

This is his only option now. Please do it, Mr. President! A sitting POTUS in favor of gay marriage? FORWARD!

inthemiddle on May 9, 2012 at 1:27 PM

I trust the Obama-Reggie Love nuptials will be announced shortly thereafter.

And in the steam tray at the wedding reception:Rigatoni with Mastiff meatballs.

Obama eats dogs.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on May 9, 2012 at 1:27 PM

RBMN.. I see what you did there…

sandee on May 9, 2012 at 1:28 PM

This will be played out as another great display of O’s courage–forced into action after the clear display of power of the small-minded right in NC last night.

Nevermind Pablo’s point at 1:13

johnny alpha on May 9, 2012 at 1:28 PM

Anything to keep this election not about the economy.

MeatHeadinCA on May 9, 2012 at 1:28 PM

Well, the other distractions the Obama camp has come up with (War on Women, Seamusgate, etc)haven’t worked. This seems to be a card he can play to gin up the base (which has been less than enthusiastic for Obama so far) & take the focus off of the economy and make the GE about those “redneck bigots in the GOP” (never mind that it was the predominately AA counties that voted overwhelmingly for Amend. 1 in NC).

Dark Star on May 9, 2012 at 1:29 PM

Oh his wordsmiths are working overtime today,don’t you know. They will have to SUPER SIZE the teleprompter font to make sure Stammerer-In-Chief gets it right.

hillsoftx on May 9, 2012 at 1:29 PM

FORWARD!
inthemiddle on May 9, 2012 at 1:27 PM

Yeah,muddle, nothing says advancing the human race like state-sanctioned penile-fecal matter sex.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on May 9, 2012 at 1:30 PM

Second, when America looks and sees that there is genuine bipartisan support for something, people will be more likely to get behind the program.

What the heck? How is having Brooks and Frum on board evidence of “genuine bipartisan support”?

Rocks on May 9, 2012 at 1:30 PM

On ABC “If I were gay, I’d look like me” — Obama

Schadenfreude on May 9, 2012 at 1:27 PM

OMFG! +1000

Dark Star on May 9, 2012 at 1:30 PM

I am ready for the mostly white liberal elites democrats to start attacking the blacks and Hispanics, the majority of which oppose gay marriage, for their strong cultural and religious beliefs.

DVPTexFla on May 9, 2012 at 1:27 PM

Oh…don’t for their hatred for the Jews on this one too.

oldroy on May 9, 2012 at 1:30 PM

He waited for NC to pass the anti-gay marriage law, in order to use it as a reason to “come out” on his support of Gay Marriage.

Who didn’t see this coming?

portlandon on May 9, 2012 at 1:30 PM

Obama to finally back gay marriage today?

Oh yes! Do it. Do it. Do it.

petefrt on May 9, 2012 at 1:30 PM

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