Breaking: Noted gay-marriage supporter finally drops cynical charade

posted at 3:38 pm on May 9, 2012 by Allahpundit

Via Mediaite, 16 years after going on the record in support of gay marriage, The One finally decides it’s safe to reclaim his old position. (AmSpec’s James Antle tweets, “Obama may be the only person in America who supported gay marriage in 1996 but opposed it in 2011.”) His base will swoon over this, needless to say — expect the mother of all leg tingles on “Hardball” tonight — but even as someone who agrees with him, I can’t get past the pure opportunism of it. In fact, fellow gay-marriage supporter Andy Levy flags this NYT tweet in naked disgust:

Some Obama advisers were divided on decision to support same-sex marriage, but concluded his brand has been damaged enough by hedging.

That’s what it was all about: The brand, plus the political awkwardness created by Biden’s candor on “Meet the Press” this past Sunday. I used to ask whether anyone seriously believes O opposes gay marriage. Now I have to start asking whether anyone seriously believes O would have stopped feigning opposition if it was still a clear political winner for him to keep it up. His “courage” here, as in all things, is about his own reelection chances. If there’s anything for gay rights supporters to celebrate today, it’s the fact that popular opinion has shifted enough that even an opportunist as transparent as The One thinks it’s safe enough to take this position before a national election.

Note the fine print, though:

The president stressed that this is a personal position, and that he still supports the concept of states deciding the issue on their own. But he said he’s confident that more Americans will grow comfortable with gays and lesbians getting married, citing his own daughters’ comfort with the concept.

I don’t believe that for a moment either but that’s going to be his new compromise. Instead of “I support gay rights but oppose gay marriage” it’s now “I support gay marriage but oppose federal intervention.” Even so, if/when the Supreme Court finds a right to same-sex marriage in the Equal Protection Clause, rest assured that the statement from the White House that day will be nothing but celebratory. This position too is a charade.

As for the politics, Karl notes in the Greenroom that Team Hopenchange may now be shifting from a campaign aimed at winning back disaffected working-class swing voters to a campaign aimed mainly at maximizing turnout among their base:

What yesterday’s elections may have told Team Obama is that the bitter clingers out there are bitter enough to give 41% of the Democrat vote in West Virginia to a convicted felon and to ease a ban on same-sex marriage into the North Carolina constitution. They may have concluded that their energies are better spent targeting more socially liberal white college graduates in the suburbs of northern Virginia, Philadeplphia, Denver, etc. than wasting time on trying to persuade Rust Belt Jacksonians to pull the lever for Barack Obama again while (as Allahpundit suggests) considering discontent among socially conservative African-Americans an acceptable risk now. The establishment’s mockery of Obama’s unevolved position may have suggested to Team Obama that painting Mitt Romney as a right-wing extremist is made more difficult when the president shares Romney’s position on SSM.

For an extended list of pros versus cons, read Chris Cillizza. Romney reiterated today that there’ll be no “evolving” on his end so the contrast is there if Obama wants to draw it. Which, I think, he almost surely doesn’t: There’s too much uncertainty on both sides about how swing voters will react if it becomes a major issue in the campaign. Will they follow North Carolina’s and other states’ lead by voting against gay marriage and its proponent-in-chief? Or will they tune Romney out because he’s not talking about jobs and his economic program? Outside of LGBT fundraisers, I doubt you’ll hear O talk at length again about this issue before November. Exit quotation from GOProud’s Chris Barron: “It is time the left came to terms with the fact that this president will only be for same-sex marriage when he believes it is a political winner for him.”

Update: Some buzz on Twitter for this blink-and-you’ll-miss-it moment in O’s remarks: “when I think about those soldiers or airmen or marines or sailors who are out there fighting on my behalf…” His behalf?


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If the GOP thought it was going to help them, they would be celebrating it. Conservative media is angry and pissed off – which can only mean they know this was a good decision for the President.

inthemiddle on May 9, 2012 at 4:16 PM

Thanks for North Carolina!

Chuck Schick on May 9, 2012 at 4:17 PM

I wonder if the White House helped out with the questions that Robin Roberts asked..?

d1carter on May 9, 2012 at 4:17 PM

They don’t need to vote for Mittens. If Obama’s “evolution” depresses turnout among black voters even by a small fraction, it’ll destroy his reelection prospects.

Doughboy on May 9, 2012 at 3:58 PM

Someone gets it!

And there will be an effect. Considering how the media is going to be trumpeting this out their asses for months to come, the black community WILL hear about this, one way or another Likewise, they will be talking about it, and it will color their cultural perception of him. Homosexuality isn’t just frowned upon within black culture; it’s reviled. This will hurt him in that demographic.

Obama is basically presuming he’ll have their vote in November no matter what he does, and this will be perceived by the black community as Obama throwing them under the bus for gay support. I’m guessing his handlers have concluded that the net loss in black votes will be smaller than the net gain in votes among a newly-energized base and the gay constituency, Which makes this ploy even more cynical than the lying he’s been doing for the past decade.

mintycrys on May 9, 2012 at 4:18 PM

President “Present” votes Present once again.

Enough to appease his big Gay Money donors, but not enough to piss off the 61% of African American Baptists that voted for this amendment. Plus it gets him in TV where he can spend the time talking about himself.

GadsdenRattlers on May 9, 2012 at 4:18 PM

If the GOP thought it was going to help them, they would be celebrating it. Conservative media is angry and pissed off – which can only mean they know this was a good decision for the President.

inthemiddle on May 9, 2012 at 4:16 PM

You are quite deluded if you think this is the position to put Obama over the top.

Bitter Clinger on May 9, 2012 at 4:18 PM

Wow…Fox News is praising this decision. You can tell by the reaction this is irritating the heck out of the GOP because they know it’s a net-gain for the President. Talk about getting the negative news off the front pages!

inthemiddle on May 9, 2012 at 4:11 PM

Just pretend that gay marriage passes everywhere it comes to a vote and you can keep telling yourself this.

Lily on May 9, 2012 at 4:18 PM

Yes, blacks will now only support him by 99.9% instead. If you think this will drive them to Mormon Mitt, you’re dreaming! FORWARD ’12.

inthemiddle on May 9, 2012 at 3:57 PM

I’ve seen you throw around the term bigot and racist a few times today alone.

Now, you post something like this.

The irony of that statement is astounding – they way you lump 99.9% of black people together as if they think with one hive mind and will be guaranteed to vote the same way, the use of Mormon which, in this context, is an implication that black people wouldn’t vote for a Mormon the reduction of groups and people to simple labels…..

You’re right though, it’s the people that disagree with you that are the bigots. Not you with your labels and your generalizations. You’re just fine.

JadeNYU on May 9, 2012 at 4:18 PM

You can tell by the reaction this is irritating the heck out of the GOP because they know it’s a net-gain for the President. Talk about getting the negative news off the front pages!

inthemiddle on May 9, 2012 at 4:11 PM

Straw meet man.

hillsoftx on May 9, 2012 at 4:18 PM

So since the majority of blacks and Hispanics oppose gay marriage I will now call everyone racist who says the voters against gay marriage are ignorant bigots.

Why do they call blacks and Hispanics ignorant? That is racist.

The Notorious G.O.P on May 9, 2012 at 4:18 PM

AP writes: but even as someone who agrees with him

Holy beta-male, Bruce Wayne. AllahPundit supports gay marriage. Johnny Carson impersonation: “I did not know that”. That Obama’s new policy position has caused AP to reveal somesuch so personal about himself … should make us all understand how really important this moment is.

I don’t support redefining the word “marriage” in this way. Same sex love is of a different type and nature from opposite sex love. Hence the word “sex”. There’s pretend sex, and real sex. Marriage. “For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh”. No, I’m not a Bible thumper. Isn’t the difference just obvious? Religion or not? Is 10000 years of tradition full of s***, to all be discarded?

Paul-Cincy on May 9, 2012 at 4:19 PM

Ooh, ooh!

I’m hoping that Obama uses his nomination acceptance speech to blast the bigotry, intolerance, and hate of his host state, which voted 60-40 to ban even the most loosely defined same-sex union.

That’ll be just precious.

KingGold on May 9, 2012 at 4:13 PM

I’d put money on the Dems moving the convention to VA after the events of the last few days. They are going to lose NC and they know it now. VA is must win and with the recent ultrasound law there, the war on women demagoguery opportunities are robust.

Kataklysmic on May 9, 2012 at 4:19 PM

This decision is a measure of political weakness, not strength. Obama wanted it both ways (sorry for the pun) and the gays refused to write checks to his re-election until he acted.

1. This hurts Obama with Hispanics, Catholics, and blue collar white voters. For Catholics, it may be the final straw.

2. This doesn’t hurt him with blacks as a percentage of the vote (99%), but the total vote may be reduced – less enthusiasm (along with the economy).

3. This ends the fantasy of carrying NC, and the convention is now scripted to be a disaster, surrounded by SC and Tennessee.

4. This also hurts Obama in Pennsylvania, New Mexico, Michigan, Nevada, and possibly Iowa as well.

The real absurdity: NBC News (not NBC) broke into regular programming this afternoon to announce this “breath-taking” decision (I was getting an oil change at the dealership).

matthew8787 on May 9, 2012 at 4:19 PM

I want the POTUS to be as honest as he can with the American people…for a change. Let the chips fall where they may.

d1carter on May 9, 2012 at 4:19 PM

The LSM has already defined it as “evolving” not flip flopping declension..:)
Dire Straits on May 9, 2012 at 4:16 PM

Cleombrotus on May 9, 2012 at 4:20 PM

If the GOP thought it was going to help them, they would be celebrating it. Conservative media is angry and pissed off – which can only mean they know this was a good decision for the President.

inthemiddle on May 9, 2012 at 4:16 PM

Still spinning.

derecho on May 9, 2012 at 4:20 PM

Likewise, the Dems are fired up and ready to go now. A new fire has been lit and we won’t let Mitt take us back to the Stone Ages.

inthemiddle on May 9, 2012 at 4:13 PM

So this is the issue to fire your side up? Jobs, economy, meh. Gay marriage, winning!!

Bitter Clinger on May 9, 2012 at 4:20 PM

Fine. This creates the unambiguous distinction we need to drive this wedge into independents and even some afro-Americans that oppose gay marriage.

Banner ad: a GIF graphic (animation) shows the gay blade Obama dancing. Disturbing for many. Headline is something about the “New Morality” or something. The negative visual is what we are looking for. What the banner ad links to is not so important; perhaps link to a collection of linked articles, and of course to a solicitation for a donation (have a small print $ solicitation on the banner ad as well [say that a few $$ goes a long long way with banner ads].

This could be a self-sustaining campaign as it is extremely cheap to run these ads, but at some level they will find a strong niche of effectiveness.

Then run other banner ads. Such as a series of ads headlined Radicals at the Helm. All someone needs is about a grand to start this campaign, and with the proper approach, it could gain the donations to be self-sustaining, and indeed to expand to saturation levels. Someone go to it, I implore.

There is no reason for some everyday Joe not to do this banner campaign now, or no reason for connected conservative pros not to do this. None. The nation’s future is at stake. I can’t do it though. So you do it.

anotherJoe on May 9, 2012 at 4:20 PM

Barry will expect a same-sex bounce. Might not be what he imagines.

BHO Jonestown on May 9, 2012 at 4:20 PM

Yes, blacks will now only support him by 99.9% instead. If you think this will drive them to Mormon Mitt, you’re dreaming! FORWARD ’12.

inthemiddle on May 9, 2012 at 3:57 PM

Nice one, bigot!

Chuck Schick on May 9, 2012 at 4:21 PM

As a voter in NC, I can say that today has been very hard. People on both sides have chosen to use hate instead of faith. Fear instead of Logic.. (and I voted for the amendment.) This is just another thing he couldn’t pull over people’s eye anymore.

mbquinn on May 9, 2012 at 4:21 PM

Does this mean that my friends and relations who’ve been unemployed for three years will at last be able to find jobs?

theCork on May 9, 2012 at 4:21 PM

Which makes this ploy even more cynical than the lying he’s been doing for the past decade.

mintycrys on May 9, 2012 at 4:18 PM

OTOH, maybe he was just waiting for his daughter to become old enough to tell him she was okay with it.

Lily on May 9, 2012 at 4:21 PM

The President of the United States has endorsed gay marriage! It took some time, but it happened. A day for the history books – a great step FORWARD for us bigots.

inthemiddle on May 9, 2012 at 3:55 PM

No charge.

CurtZHP on May 9, 2012 at 4:21 PM

Cleombrotus on May 9, 2012 at 4:20 PM

lolz..That is a new one!!..:)

Dire Straits on May 9, 2012 at 4:21 PM

And there will be an effect. Considering how the media is going to be trumpeting this out their asses for months to come, the black community WILL hear about this, one way or another Likewise, they will be talking about it, and it will color their cultural perception of him. Homosexuality isn’t just frowned upon within black culture; it’s reviled. This will hurt him in that demographic.

It ain’t gonna help him with the Arab vote in Michigan, either, which is an important voting bloc.

matthew8787 on May 9, 2012 at 4:22 PM

He’s just adding more offenses that he’s gonna have to answer for on that Day.

Cleombrotus on May 9, 2012 at 4:22 PM

The timing is most interesting to me, given last night’s vote. It sounds essentially as if he’s going on TV to say “I will not win North Carolina. I’m not even trying.”

Gingotts on May 9, 2012 at 4:22 PM

Better latent than never…

Obama: “Ole!”

I don’t know what took him so long; gays and lesbians should have to suffer through failed marriages and divorce like everyone else.

ghostwalker1 on May 9, 2012 at 4:22 PM

Wow…Fox News is praising this decision. You can tell by the reaction this is irritating the heck out of the GOP because they know it’s a net-gain for the President. Talk about getting the negative news off the front pages!

inthemiddle on May 9, 2012 at 4:11 PM

Did you see what happened in North Carolina last night? Gay marriage got trounced in that state. And that’s not some meaningless state that he can just concede like the Dakotas or Idaho. While it’s not essential to him winning reelection, it sure wouldn’t hurt to hold onto it and he all but handed it to Romney with this move. Mittens doesn’t even have to campaign there anymore.

Doughboy on May 9, 2012 at 4:23 PM

Well I’ll give old jug-ears credit. He manages to be on the wrong side of every issue. So he’s got that going for him.

HumpBot Salvation on May 9, 2012 at 4:23 PM

Now that gay money has been secured , Hussein needs cartel money .
Next up …a fatwa for amnesty of all illegals, both inside and outside of USA

burrata on May 9, 2012 at 4:23 PM

I find it creepy he would invoke his daughter on such an issue.

Bitter Clinger on May 9, 2012 at 4:15 PM

I find it appropriate.

One of the things that played hard against Jimmah in ’80, painting him as a lightweight, was him claiming in a debate that he consulted daughter Amy about nuclear war

teke184 on May 9, 2012 at 4:23 PM

Which makes this ploy even more cynical than the lying he’s been doing for the past decade.

mintycrys on May 9, 2012 at 4:18 PM

OTOH, maybe he was just waiting for his daughter to become old enough to tell him she was okay with it.

Lily on May 9, 2012 at 4:21 PM

*snicker*

mintycrys on May 9, 2012 at 4:23 PM

This means that “I” can marry “ME” and “We” can live happily ever after…… I am so important says The One.

Iron Butterfly on May 9, 2012 at 4:24 PM

I have heard many say that gays being married has no affect on my life or family. Maybe not now, but wait for the day that you will be hauled to court because you didn’t hire a prospective applicant for your church or synagogue because the gay lifestyle violates your churches or synagogue’s scriptural principles. That is what is coming.

Rest assured this not just about two people of the same sex getting “married”.

fbcmusicman on May 9, 2012 at 4:24 PM

The fact that some people are gay should not bother anyone, this is how they chose to live their life. But the minute same sex marriage is brought up, then this is entirely a different issue. If marriage is to include same sex couples, then we are all the same, which begs the question, are we all the same?

DDay on May 9, 2012 at 4:24 PM

Likewise, the Dems are fired up and ready to go now. A new fire has been lit and we won’t let Mitt take us back to the Stone Ages.

inthemiddle on May 9, 2012 at 4:13 PM

So this is the issue to fire your side up? Jobs, economy, meh. Gay marriage, winning!!

Bitter Clinger on May 9, 2012 at 4:20 PM

Social issues are NEVER important UNLESS they are progressive social issues…

melle1228 on May 9, 2012 at 4:25 PM

Whatever you think about this, it has to be obvious to everyone that Obama has officially abandoned any effort to paint himself as a moderate and is going full-on progressive in this campaign.

rockmom on May 9, 2012 at 4:25 PM

The hilarious thing is, Obama says same sex marriage is a state’s rights issue. I didn’t know he knew the states had rights.

tbrickert on May 9, 2012 at 4:25 PM

I have a different take. Biden didn’t box Obama in-he was merely the front man to cushion the blow (no pun intended) for a decision that Barry had already decided to make. By doing this early he hopes to force Romney to make a stand (I hope Romney remains firm-again no pun intended)-hoping that his stand will cement him with white liberals and also hope that this will be “old news” for the more socially conservative blacks and Hispanics on election day.

MaiDee on May 9, 2012 at 4:26 PM

I don’t doubt this will help Obama with his base, but he’s trading votes in California and New York for votes in Iowa and Ohio.
Making the blue states slightly bluer is not how you win the White House.

It’s clear that Obama raising this issue means the economy is going in the sh!tter and they need a new distraction to talk about.

BradTank on May 9, 2012 at 4:26 PM

Dire Straits on May 9, 2012 at 4:21 PM

Actually, not a laughing matter. These are the kinds of things a culture in its death throes deals in. Cultures are never static; they’re either ascending or in decline.

The nancy boys actually think they’re going to benefit personally from this. That’s how distorted their perspective has become.

Cleombrotus on May 9, 2012 at 4:26 PM

This is simply a political maneuver. After the shellacking last night in NC Obama realizes he is losing his base. He has to try and rally them somehow. He can’t do it on anything he has done so this is what it comes down to. Which is fine by me. It’s not like the gay community and supporters of gay marriage were going to vote Romey anyway. All this does is alienate some Obama voters. So basically this is a net gain for the GOP.

There is a reason he never came out with this before. He knew he would lose some support. He does it now because he needs something to try and rally his troops.

The Notorious G.O.P on May 9, 2012 at 4:27 PM

Ha, ha, ha. Transparently desperate president almost gets beat in the NC primary by Federal Inmate No. 11593-051 — and suddenly he’s all in with gay marriage! And he invokes his daughters again! What a cynical, pathetic, desperate little man he is. The Incredible Shrinking Barack. Ha, ha. ha.

Rational Thought on May 9, 2012 at 4:27 PM

If the GOP thought it was going to help them, they would be celebrating it. Conservative media is angry and pissed off – which can only mean they know this was a good decision for the President.

inthemiddle on May 9, 2012 at 4:16 PM

Your love, today

The president stressed that this is a personal position, and that he still supports the concept of states deciding the issue on their own.

Schadenfreude on May 9, 2012 at 4:28 PM

I don’t doubt this will help Obama with his base, but he’s trading votes in California and New York for votes in Iowa and Ohio.
Making the blue states slightly bluer is not how you win the White House.

It’s clear that Obama raising this issue means the economy is going in the sh!tter and they need a new distraction to talk about.

BradTank on May 9, 2012 at 4:26 PM

BINGO!

The Notorious G.O.P on May 9, 2012 at 4:28 PM

This was an easy decision for BHO. He always supports the well heeled Leftist elites. Many of his
most wealthy bundlers are extremist homosexual activists. Black turnout will be diminished on the margins. The $$$ pours in from the “oppressed” homosexual elites.Easy call for the always cynical BHO.

kingsmill on May 9, 2012 at 4:29 PM

inthemiddle reminds me a lot of liberal4life. Lots of spin and one-liners, little content. Why can’t more of the liberals who post here be like libfreeordie? I don’t agree with most of what that one says, but at least actual discussion takes place.

McDuck on May 9, 2012 at 4:29 PM

There is a reason he never came out with this before. He knew he would lose some support. He does it now because he needs something to try and rally his troops.
 
The Notorious G.O.P on May 9, 2012 at 4:27 PM

 
I’m only slightly kidding when I say:
 
He needed to be black in 2008…

rogerb on May 9, 2012 at 4:29 PM

IIRC, wasn’t there something

marybel on May 9, 2012 at 4:30 PM

The president stressed that this is a personal position, and that he still supports the concept of states deciding the issue on their own.

Schadenfreude on May 9, 2012 at 4:28 PM

Still evolving – Tingles will like that.

derecho on May 9, 2012 at 4:30 PM

The hilarious thing is, Obama says same sex marriage is a state’s rights issue. I didn’t know he knew the states had rights.

tbrickert on May 9, 2012 at 4:25 PM

In his mind, states have rights only when it is most convenient for him.

Bitter Clinger on May 9, 2012 at 4:30 PM

By doing this early he hopes to force Romney to make a stand (I hope Romney remains firm-again no pun intended)

MaiDee on May 9, 2012 at 4:26 PM

The battle line is on civil unions. I’m not sure about civil unions. Mitt is against them. I’m vaguely for them. But I don’t know all the consequences. If Mitt is against them, that might be hard to defend.

No doubt the “civil unions” issue will play out in all its gay splendor in the next 6 months.

Paul-Cincy on May 9, 2012 at 4:31 PM

are we all the same?

DDay on May 9, 2012 at 4:24 PM

Only is a socialistic society. In theory, anyway.

Some animals more equal than others, no?

Jabberwock on May 9, 2012 at 4:31 PM

I guess this really means that Hillary will replace Biden. Au naturale.
txmomof6 on May 9, 2012 at 3:52 PM

Not to get too off topic, but…

…can you imagine how unkempt it’s getting…?

Seven Percent Solution on May 9, 2012 at 4:32 PM

Evidently Barry believes that Blacks will still rally to him, despite his “evolving” change of heart about gay “marriage”.

Another example of “He may be a crook, but he’s OUR crook!”

GarandFan on May 9, 2012 at 4:32 PM

I don’t doubt this will help Obama with his base, but he’s trading votes in California and New York for votes in Iowa and Ohio.
……..

BradTank on May 9, 2012 at 4:26 PM

CA voted with an overwhelming majority, TWICE,
against gay marriage, funny isn’t it Obama ?

burrata on May 9, 2012 at 4:32 PM

It’s clear that Obama raising this issue means the economy is going in the sh!tter and they need a new distraction to talk about.

BradTank on May 9, 2012 at 4:26 PM

Dead right. And how tone-deaf will running on gay marriage be while the economy continues to crumble?

He lost North Carolina when he opened his mouth, only to jam his foot in today. What other states he won in 2008 will go with it?

Chuck Schick on May 9, 2012 at 4:33 PM

Mitt says he has the same view on this issue he has had for the last 10 minutes…///

d1carter on May 9, 2012 at 4:33 PM

Whatever you think about this, it has to be obvious to everyone that Obama has officially abandoned any effort to paint himself as a moderate and is going full-on progressive in this campaign.

rockmom on May 9, 2012 at 4:25 PM

Obama, unplugged. His attitude is, screw it. Like Hillary eschewing makeup and hairdo.

Paul-Cincy on May 9, 2012 at 4:33 PM

I am all for homosexual marriages–why should heterosexuals be the only ones miserable for 30 years?

hillsoftx on May 9, 2012 at 4:33 PM

CA voted with an overwhelming majority, TWICE,
against gay marriage, funny isn’t it Obama ?

burrata on May 9, 2012 at 4:32 PM

Those darn ignorant and bigoted blacks and Hispanics.

The Notorious G.O.P on May 9, 2012 at 4:33 PM

This might be the most pathetic issue for the most pathetic nitwit in our political universe right now. What a gutless nitwit Obama is.

I’m glad this nutless fruitcake belongs to the Dems.

Jaibones on May 9, 2012 at 4:34 PM

I might be wrong. I really might.

But I don’t think this helps him much.

A five-year-old could count the number of people who:

a) vote gay marriage
b) weren’t already fervent Obama backers
c) didn’t already assume he was just lying for political gain

This is a financial evolution, not an ethical one. He needs to shake loose more Hollywood money.

I would not be surprised at all to find this was a quid pro quo with some major donor or group of donors.

JEM on May 9, 2012 at 4:35 PM

Romney responds on FNC atm.
Points out the states’ right, and his support of man/woman viewpoint.
When asked if he considered this an Obama flip/flop, he left it to the press to figure that out.
I think Romney’s being VERY smart lately, when he says: “if this/that is actually true, then….”
Preemptive trap-springing, there.

pambi on May 9, 2012 at 4:35 PM

Things must be looking really bad for this POTUS to be so honest…

d1carter on May 9, 2012 at 4:36 PM

Likewise, the Dems are fired up and ready to go now. A new fire has been lit and we won’t let Mitt take us back to the Stone Ages.

inthemiddle on May 9, 2012 at 4:13 PM

Then why didn’t Obama use this to fire them up in 2010, when Dems could have used some firing up to hold on to the House? Think this will help them keep the Senate now? Maybe Manchin (D-WV) will come “out” for Obama now… and all the Dem incumbents Senators up for re-election. This is going to be fun. Romney may not go there, but you better believe the state candidates will. Which is where gay marriage initiatives always lose.

de rigueur on May 9, 2012 at 4:36 PM

Some buzz on Twitter for this blink-and-you’ll-miss-it moment in O’s remarks: “when I think about those soldiers or airmen or marines or sailors who are out there fighting on my behalf…” His behalf?

Whoa whoa whoa. My husband is not fighting for Obama’s ego, he’s fighting for America. There’s a difference!

pookysgirl on May 9, 2012 at 4:37 PM

Likewise, the Dems are fired up and ready to go now. A new fire has been lit and we won’t let Mitt take us back to the Stone Ages.

inthemiddle on May 9, 2012 at 4:13 PM

Fine–you run on gay marriage, and Romney will run on the economic and political disaster that has characterized four years under Obama: increasing debt more than all previous presidents combines, highest average number of months unemployed ever recorded, doubling of gas prices, the fiasco of obamacare, etc, etc, etc.

STL_Vet on May 9, 2012 at 4:38 PM

I’m sure that, somewhere, Larry Sinclair is breathing a sigh of relief.

realitycheck on May 9, 2012 at 4:38 PM

I’m glad this nutless fruitcake belongs to the Dems.

Jaibones on May 9, 2012 at 4:34 PM

nutless fruticake. THREADWINNER!!!!!

GhoulAid on May 9, 2012 at 4:38 PM

Rational Thought on May 9, 2012 at 4:27 PM

it was in WV not NC that the inmate was on the ballot ….

conservative tarheel on May 9, 2012 at 4:38 PM

The president stressed that this is a personal position, and that he still supports the concept of states deciding the issue on their own.

Are gays going to be so forgiving on this point? In 1959, if a President said he approved of equality for blacks but that this was just a personal position and it should be left to the states to decide on their own, would he be hailed as being at the forefront of a new era in race relations?

bobs1196 on May 9, 2012 at 4:38 PM

Blue gummed, flop eared mother fcuker is toast, I hope.

Long haired country boy on May 9, 2012 at 4:39 PM

Paul-Cincy on May 9, 2012 at 4:19 PM

AP has mentioned from time to time that he supports this revisionist and redefinition of marriage.

This is a redefinition. It’s not an inclusion of behavior, it’s a destruction of an institution that has always been defined between a man and a woman.

Civil unions, if passed, would soon, if not immediately, become a matter of controversy, as the term would be beaten like a drum as discriminatory with the simultaneous demand to use the word marriage. IMO we’re basically talking semantics, and the next step would be to change the semantics.

Civil unions are also giving legal recognition to a sexual relationship. Marriage is the only sexual relationship exclusively recognized by government and given legal support and protection. There’s a reason for this because marriage is the fundamental building block of a stable society.

INC on May 9, 2012 at 4:40 PM

No one has mentioned how his fellow Muslims will take this.

The Notorious G.O.P on May 9, 2012 at 4:41 PM

He certainly realized after yesterday that he has to shore up his base. He realizes he is in deep trouple – this was an act of desperation. When you lose 41% in West Virgina to a current convict – you know things are not going to be like 2008. Not only that, Wisconsin clearly showed the intensity of republican voters to make him unemployed, (like he has done for countless millions), in November. Only fair to return the favor.

mouell on May 9, 2012 at 4:41 PM

Whoa whoa whoa. My husband is not fighting for Obama’s ego, he’s fighting for America. There’s a difference!

pookysgirl on May 9, 2012 at 4:37 PM

Please let your husband know that we know what he is fighting for even if his self absorbed, piece of sh!t, sucker of c0ck, tyranny loving boss doesn’t.

NotCoach on May 9, 2012 at 4:41 PM

Those darn ignorant and bigoted blacks and Hispanics.

The Notorious G.O.P on May 9, 2012 at 4:33 PM

Obama can buy hispanics with amnesty , any time of the day, inspite of him running guns for mexican drug cartels and laundering their money .
Just like blacks vote for Dems, inspite of Dems being the party of KKK because freebies are more important to this herd of voters .
It’s all about freebies and these 2 herds are cheap to buy .

burrata on May 9, 2012 at 4:41 PM

IIRC, I read something a day or two ago about some super rich gay donors who are so unhappy with Obama’s ‘slow-mo evolution’ that they are refusing to donate to the campaign. While they will of course vote for O (where else are they going?), they are closing their checkbooks until and unless The One speaks out. So, he did.

Follow the money. Elections for Obama are about the money. And himself.

marybel on May 9, 2012 at 4:42 PM

Whoa whoa whoa. My husband is not fighting for Obama’s ego, he’s fighting for America. There’s a difference!

pookysgirl on May 9, 2012 at 4:37 PM

not according to the Iwon …. we all work on His behalf …
being the anointed one and all….

conservative tarheel on May 9, 2012 at 4:42 PM

How will he tap dance to finesse this decision to certain Dem constituencies who oppose gay marriage and civil unions? I’m sure he’ll think of another lie, no problem.

Philly on May 9, 2012 at 4:42 PM

This is a financial evolution, not an ethical one. He needs to shake loose more Hollywood money.

You think he will go wobbly on pedophiles next, then?

so-notbuyingit on May 9, 2012 at 4:42 PM

Chris Cillizza failed to mention latinos in his cons. I guess he doesn’t even want to broach that.

rubberneck on May 9, 2012 at 4:42 PM

Whoa whoa whoa. My husband is not fighting for Obama’s ego, he’s fighting for America. There’s a difference!

pookysgirl on May 9, 2012 at 4:37 PM

Not according to Bite Me. Right after he was tapped as VP, he introduced him as Barack America at a rally.

Doughboy on May 9, 2012 at 4:43 PM

Follow the money. Elections for Obama are about the money. And himself.

marybel on May 9, 2012 at 4:42 PM

I read something similar, and I agree.

INC on May 9, 2012 at 4:43 PM

Ha! A Tweet from “Gay Patriot”:

Let’s see… first Obama co-opted all of Bush’s policies in War on Terror, now he co-opts Dick Cheney’s position on gay marriage. Progress!

And from Melissa Clouthier:

NC Gay Community to Obama: Where the f*ck were you yesterday?

And Jim Geraghty:

The Barack Obama of Wednesday denounces the Barack Obama of Monday as a closed-minded bigot.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

My president is a shameless fool!

Rational Thought on May 9, 2012 at 4:43 PM

Blacks for the most part oppose gay marriage. Most will still vote for him any, but a small amount will be turned off by this will stay home. The votes he will lose will hurt him in North Carolina and Virginia.

midgeorgian on May 9, 2012 at 4:44 PM

he agrees with cheney (states rights), i bet that will burn up tingles and the lsm…
nevermind that 32 states have said NO

cmsinaz on May 9, 2012 at 4:44 PM

Obama supports gay marriage even though 70% of blacks oppose it, he’s deporting 400,000 illegals a year, twice what Bush deported…but it’s Republicans who need to reach out to minorities.

Crusty on May 9, 2012 at 4:44 PM

Dire Straits on May 9, 2012 at 4:16 PM

flip flop only for the gop

:)

cmsinaz on May 9, 2012 at 4:45 PM

The next Gallup and Rassmusen polls should be interesting

The Notorious G.O.P on May 9, 2012 at 4:46 PM

You think he will go wobbly on pedophiles next, then?

so-notbuyingit on May 9, 2012 at 4:42 PM

why not? he’s practiced beastiality.

GhoulAid on May 9, 2012 at 4:47 PM

I don’t think this clown even wants to win anymore.

If not for the perks.

He’s tired, you know?

ICanSeeNovFromMyHouse on May 9, 2012 at 4:48 PM

Looks like Obama finally joined 21st century and embraced the same position as that evil Dick Cheney character when it comes to gay marriage. This will not cost him one vote though when it comes to the black and Hispanic communities. They don’t vote based on issues, they vote based on skin color and Obama knows this. Most of the free loaders aren’t going to care about the presidents position on gay rights as long as the welfare checks keep showing up too.

I think this will cost him big time with women and the white working class though

1984 in real life on May 9, 2012 at 4:48 PM

Civil unions are also giving legal recognition to a sexual relationship. Marriage is the only sexual relationship exclusively recognized by government and given legal support and protection. There’s a reason for this because marriage is the fundamental building block of a stable society.

INC on May 9, 2012 at 4:40 PM

Thanks for the reply. Interesting. I still have to work on my own position on this. But I’m firm on supporting DOMA, that “marriage” is between a man and a woman.

Paul-Cincy on May 9, 2012 at 4:49 PM

pookysgirl on May 9, 2012 at 4:37 PM

please tell your husband that a retired sailor thanks him for his service
and my wife and I both thank you for YOUR sacrifice

same goes for all other active duty / reservist here …

conservative tarheel on May 9, 2012 at 4:50 PM

Call me cynical, but I don’t believe for a minute that Biden boxed the POTUS into this announcement…

d1carter on May 9, 2012 at 4:50 PM

Obama in agreement with Cheney !!! ???
My, how the worm turns.
Can’t wait to see the press address that one.
Big laughing going on here

Jabberwock on May 9, 2012 at 4:50 PM

I’m curious to see how black pastors will react to this, although I don’t know how much the media will let us know about those who are ordinary people. We’ll see how the famous hedge their bets. I’d also like to know what will be said in many churches this Sunday—especially in the South and in North Carolina.

INC on May 9, 2012 at 4:51 PM

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