Wow: Bomber in Yemen Al Qaeda airplane plot was CIA double agent

posted at 7:29 pm on May 8, 2012 by Allahpundit

ABC had this story this morning but they hadn’t quite nailed down the fact that the double agent who infiltrated AQ was in fact the “bomber” himself. It was strongly implied — ABC’s sources noted that the infiltrator had “control” of the bomb — but it falls to the L.A. Times to connect the last dot.

An enormous intel coup, needless to say:

Saudi Arabia’s intelligence agency, working closely with the CIA, used an informant to pose as a would-be suicide bomber. His job was to convince the Al Qaeda franchise in Yemen to give him a new kind of non-metallic bomb that the militants were designing to easily pass through airport security.

But the double agent instead arranged to deliver the explosive device to U.S. and other intelligence authorities waiting in another country, officials said Tuesday. The agent is now safely outside Yemen and is being debriefed…

The operation had an added benefit, however. It produced intelligence that helped U.S. authorities finally locate Fahd Mohammed Ahmed Quso, a top Al Qaeda operative in Yemen. Quso had been on the FBI’s most wanted list for his alleged involvement in the bombing of the guided missile destroyer USS Cole in a Yemeni port in 2000. The FBI had offered a $5-million bounty for information leading to his capture.

We already knew that Quso was connected to this plot somehow. I wonder, in fact, if the operation didn’t start out as a general sting on Al Qaeda in Yemen, aimed principally at finding and liquidating masterminds like Quso and bombmaker-in-chief Ibrahim al-Asiri, and develop organically into intercepting AQ’s latest and greatest bomb design. Looks that way per this new story from WaPo. Apparently, double agents have been on the inside for years:

A former senior U.S. intelligence official familiar with recent operations against AQAP said that the Saudi intelligence service has furnished a steady stream of intelligence to the CIA.

“They’ve had someone on the inside of [AQAP] for some time,” the former official said. The Saudi source has provided intelligence on previous plots, including the tip that enabled authorities to disrupt al-Qaeda’s attempt to mail parcels packed with explosives to addresses in Chicago in 2010

Of dozens of AQAP fighters with Saudi backgrounds “at least five or eight of them are under cover” working for the Saudi service at any point in time, said a Middle Eastern official. “The Saudis have always had a network” of sources in Yemen, the official said, “now they are expanding its objectives.”

WaPo says it’s “unlikely” that the double agent was tasked to be the bomber and that it was probably a lower-ranking jihadi who was designated for that job, but the NYT says the agent did in fact volunteer for the mission. The latter explanation makes more sense to me just because it would explain why they had to finally pull him from the country after years of intelligence help. Once he had the bomb and was scheduled to detonate, how could he go back to the cell? They expected him to end up dead or caught a la Abdulmutallab. This also explains the highly coincidental timing of Quso meeting justice from a Predator missile within days of the double agent intercepting AQ’s bomb. Two possibilities there. Either the agent had never met Quso before and finally came face to face with him to pick up the bomb, which meant he could finally relay Quso’s whereabouts to the CIA, or this guy has been in deep cover alongside Quso for years and only now, when he was exfiltrating the cell, was it finally safe to go after Quso without blowing the agent’s cover. Makes me wonder what other intelligence bonanzas we’ve gotten from him. Was he the one who gave us the coordinates on Awlaki?

Here’s John Brennan filling in ABC this morning on details of the plot. He told NBC that TSA security measures will change to adapt to the new bomb design, but he didn’t say how. One other ominous note, again from ABC: “Brennan also said he could not say whether there were other bombers still at large.” Exit question one: Er, isn’t AQ in Yemen simply going to start purging its Saudi members now? Paranoia will be sky high after this, which is not an altogether bad thing but reduces the chances of further intel scores. Exit question two: If there are “five to eight” Saudi double agents inside the group and they’re delivering intelligence windfalls as big as this one, how come we haven’t yet gotten the prize catch, the bombmaker Asiri? Has he gone so deep underground that he’s operating now a la Bin Laden and Zawahiri, exclusively via written messages and courier? To reduce his operational capacity that much is a minor victory in itself.

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Great…
Let’s yell this from the tallest mountain…
Smart power.
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Electrongod on May 8, 2012 at 7:32 PM

Is this really necessary to reveal? It means there will be a lot of people killed because they are suspected CIA agents.

Blake on May 8, 2012 at 7:32 PM

Kiester bombs.

Convicts been hiding contraband up there for years.

I’ll bet that they’re next.

aquaviva on May 8, 2012 at 7:35 PM

Ok let’s criticize Obama for this. Go!

cjw79 on May 8, 2012 at 7:35 PM

Is this really necessary to reveal? It means there will be a lot of people killed because they are suspected CIA agents.

Blake on May 8, 2012 at 7:32 PM

I think so. It will create consternation and suspicion within their ranks.

rubberneck on May 8, 2012 at 7:35 PM

It means there will be a lot of people killed because they are suspected CIA agents.

Blake on May 8, 2012 at 7:32 PM

Exactly. AQ will wonder who the other moles are and start to suspect everyone. And maybe eliminate some of their own, too.

Wethal on May 8, 2012 at 7:36 PM

Ok let’s criticize Obama for this. Go!

cjw79 on May 8, 2012 at 7:35 PM

Whoops, looks like I was a little too late. Oh well, carry on.

cjw79 on May 8, 2012 at 7:36 PM

Apparently, the double agent has been on the inside for years:

Good grief. So let’s break things down. First we had a Russian spy getting cozy with one of Obama’s cabinet members. Then we have a complete breakdown with the secret service. Now we’ve got AQ double agents within the CIA. I feel so safe.

Weight of Glory on May 8, 2012 at 7:36 PM

Dear leader has single handedly foiled this plot. We must re elect him.

newportmike on May 8, 2012 at 7:36 PM

Is this really necessary to reveal? It means there will be a lot of people killed because they are suspected CIA agents.

Blake on May 8, 2012 at 7:32 PM

I have a feeling that terrorists don’t need to read American media to figure out intelligence agencies are actively infiltrating their ranks.

lester on May 8, 2012 at 7:37 PM

I refuse to believe that anyone is so dumb as to reveal this information if it were actually true.

So, instead, I’m going to infer that either the bomber wasn’t a CIA asset, or there aren’t really any Saudi intelligence agents infiltrating Yemeni AQ. Rather, it’s all a psy ops move to destabilize the enemy.

Or so I hope.

Nessuno on May 8, 2012 at 7:37 PM

cjw79 on May 8, 2012 at 7:35 PM

Dude. Back off. This is about the security of this nation. It’s bigger than Obama.

Weight of Glory on May 8, 2012 at 7:38 PM

Obama killing terrorists without starting trillion dollar wars. GOP goes on whining and whining.

lester on May 8, 2012 at 7:38 PM

Is this really necessary to reveal? It means there will be a lot of people killed because they are suspected CIA agents.

Blake on May 8, 2012 at 7:32 PM

..you ask this question with a straight face of the administration who order the military to take down the the head towel head and then has an orgiastic diarrhea jamboree beating its chest and spewing all of the intel the op revealed?

Somehow, subtlety is not part of the gene makeup of this crowd.

The War Planner on May 8, 2012 at 7:38 PM

Ok let’s criticize Obama for this. Go!

cjw79 on May 8, 2012 at 7:35 PM

It is his fault

Didn’t the dems blame Bush for outing that fake CIA agent Bimbo
Later it was revealed it was Novak

Conservative4ev on May 8, 2012 at 7:38 PM

Rather, it’s all a psy ops move to destabilize the enemy.

Or so I hope.

Nessuno on May 8, 2012 at 7:37 PM

I hope so too.

Weight of Glory on May 8, 2012 at 7:39 PM

Er, isn’t AQ in Yemen simply going to start purging its Saudi members now? Paranoia will be sky high after this, which is not an altogether bad thing but reduces the chances of further intel scores. Exit question two: If there are “five to eight” Saudi double agents inside the group

Unless, or course, there are NO other doubles, and some magnificent bastard just planted that seed to set off some internal jihadi self purging – sweet.

peski on May 8, 2012 at 7:40 PM

Wow. The trolls are out in force on this one.

Weight of Glory on May 8, 2012 at 7:40 PM

October 2011

Obama? Keep your pie hole shut, will ya? You’ve only got 6 more months. You’ve destroyed almost everything America holds dear. Don’t destroy our CIA, okay you smarmy bastige?

/Grrrr.

And good on ya, CIA!

Key West Reader on May 8, 2012 at 7:40 PM

Wow. The trolls are out in force on this one.

Weight of Glory on May 8, 2012 at 7:40 PM

You don’t like being called out on knee-jerk Obama bashing, no matter what the subject, strategy or result? Shocked.

cjw79 on May 8, 2012 at 7:42 PM

Ok let’s criticize Obama for this. Go!

cjw79 on May 8, 2012 at 7:35 PM

OK, here goes:

WHY IN THE HELL IS HE LEAKING THIS SHIT TO THE FUC*ING PRESS???!!! WHY IN THE HELL IS HE ALWAYS LEAKING THIS SHIT WHEN IT PUTS AMERICANS, OUR AGENTS, OUR MILITARY, AND ANYONE WHO IS HELPING US IN DANGER? WHY DOESN’T HE EVER SHUT THE FU*K UP??!! KEEPING YOUR BIG FAT MOUTH SHUT AT TIMES LIKE THIS IS WHAT PRESIDENT’S DO!! EXCEPT THIS PRESIDENT. HE TAKES VICTORY LAPS AND GETS PEOPLE KILLED.

How’s that?

Rational Thought on May 8, 2012 at 7:42 PM

If I don’t see the bomb, this never actually happened.

SouthernGent on May 8, 2012 at 7:42 PM

Obama killing terrorists without starting trillion dollar wars. GOP goes on whining and whining.

lester on May 8, 2012 at 7:38 PM

Just continuing the existing wars..

Electrongod on May 8, 2012 at 7:43 PM

Didn’t the dems blame Bush for outing that fake CIA agent Bimbo
Later it was revealed it was Novak

Conservative4ev on May 8, 2012 at 7:38 PM

and Scooter Libby was punished ?
and Richard Armitage was never even investigated, although he was the culprit ?
I wonder what that leaky dick is doing these days !

burrata on May 8, 2012 at 7:43 PM

I have a feeling that terrorists don’t need to read American media to figure out intelligence agencies are actively infiltrating their ranks.

molester on May 8, 2012 at 7:37 PM

Really? Because they sure didn’t figure this one out, you dumbass.

Chuck Schick on May 8, 2012 at 7:44 PM

Obama killing terrorists without starting trillion dollar wars. GOP goes on whining and whining.

(MO)lester on May 8, 2012 at 7:38 PM

..have no problem with the takedown ops and the drones, you mega-tool, I do have problems with the chest-beating, football-spiking, and cover-blowing aspect. Just like the rest of the folks here with common sense.

Part of winning is NOT letting your enemy know what you know and who’s working for you.

The War Planner on May 8, 2012 at 7:44 PM

You don’t like being called out on knee-jerk Obama bashing, no matter what the subject, strategy or result? Shocked.

cjw79 on May 8, 2012 at 7:42 PM

If you are able to read, you’ll note that you were the first poster to make it political (shocked!). So you’re the “knee…jerk”

Weight of Glory on May 8, 2012 at 7:44 PM

1. WHY IN THE HELL IS HE LEAKING THIS SHIT TO THE FUC*ING PRESS???!!!

2. WHY IN THE HELL IS HE ALWAYS LEAKING THIS SHIT

3. WHEN IT PUTS AMERICANS, OUR AGENTS, OUR MILITARY, AND ANYONE WHO IS HELPING US IN DANGER? WHY DOESN’T HE EVER SHUT THE FU*K UP??!!

4. KEEPING YOUR BIG FAT MOUTH SHUT AT TIMES LIKE THIS IS WHAT PRESIDENT’S DO!! EXCEPT THIS PRESIDENT.

5.HE TAKES VICTORY LAPS AND GETS PEOPLE KILLED.

How’s that?

Rational Thought on May 8, 2012 at 7:42 PM

C-. For your convenience, I numbered the misstatements, assumptions without evidence and nonsensical rants in your post. It turned out to be everything :(

cjw79 on May 8, 2012 at 7:45 PM

Is this really necessary to reveal? It means there will be a lot of people killed because they are suspected CIA agents.

Blake on May 8, 2012 at 7:32 PM

Quite. Mainly non-CIA agents.

Mitchell Heisman on May 8, 2012 at 7:46 PM

Ok let’s criticize Obama for this. Go!

cjw79 on May 8, 2012 at 7:35 PM

As with the bin Laden hit, Obama and his gang couldn’t resist blabbing about it as soon as possible.

The “we got bin Laden and his laptop” spike of the football tipped off anyone who might be endangered by the info to get out and run to ground. The CIA wanted to keep it quiet so they could use the intelligence, but Obama couldn’t resist the amateurish response.

As with this blabbing, there should have been time to carefully withdraw the other moles to safety. Now they may have a target on their backs becaus AQ will suspect anyone.

Wethal on May 8, 2012 at 7:46 PM

Next up – Eric Holder threatens to prosecute CIA agent for inflicting A.Q. with Post Traumatic Failed Plot Syndrome.

Buy Danish on May 8, 2012 at 7:47 PM

Shocked.

cjw79 on May 8, 2012 at 7:42 PM

Your Preezy need to quit bein’ sleezy…

He’s not going to be re-elected. Outing International Intelligence agreements and covert op’s is like putting a bullseye on our nation.

Tell him to stuff some pie in that hole, crawl under a rock and disappear.

Six. More. Months. God help us.

Key West Reader on May 8, 2012 at 7:47 PM

How’s that?

Rational Thought on May 8, 2012 at 7:42 PM

Excellent! Above your usual flawless efforts! Delivered fervently with your usual passion!

..now, there’s just a smidge of spittle on the right corner of your mouth there.

;-)

The War Planner on May 8, 2012 at 7:47 PM

If you are able to read, you’ll note that you were the first poster to make it political (shocked!). So you’re the “knee…jerk”

Weight of Glory on May 8, 2012 at 7:44 PM

No, I missed it by two posts. They slid in under the radar while I was typing that first one. I think they were both blaming Obama for the fact that this information came out, and automatically assuming that it would be bad for our efforts in the Middle East, even though there are already some reasons on this post as to why that isn’t necessarily the case.

cjw79 on May 8, 2012 at 7:47 PM

1. WHY IN THE HELL IS HE LEAKING THIS SHIT TO THE FUC*ING PRESS???!!!

2. WHY IN THE HELL IS HE ALWAYS LEAKING THIS SHIT

3. WHEN IT PUTS AMERICANS, OUR AGENTS, OUR MILITARY, AND ANYONE WHO IS HELPING US IN DANGER? WHY DOESN’T HE EVER SHUT THE FU*K UP??!!

4. KEEPING YOUR BIG FAT MOUTH SHUT AT TIMES LIKE THIS IS WHAT PRESIDENT’S DO!! EXCEPT THIS PRESIDENT.

5.HE TAKES VICTORY LAPS AND GETS PEOPLE KILLED.

How’s that?

Rational Thought on May 8, 2012 at 7:42 PM

Dude, relax. This is a chess match and Petraeus is running it.

Mitchell Heisman on May 8, 2012 at 7:48 PM

Quite. Mainly non-CIA agents.

Mitchell Heisman on May 8, 2012 at 7:46 PM

EXACTLY.

cjw79 on May 8, 2012 at 7:48 PM

C-. For your convenience, I numbered the misstatements, assumptions without evidence and nonsensical rants in your post. It turned out to be everything :(

cjw79 on May 8, 2012 at 7:45 PM

Typical liberal teacher: agree with me or you’re gettin’ a C-, even when you’re right and I’m wrong. In fact, especially when you’re right and I’m wrong.

Rational Thought on May 8, 2012 at 7:48 PM

Keeping your friends close and your enemies closer ?

Bmore on May 8, 2012 at 7:49 PM

disgrace that we know this. disgrace that they’re trumpeting it. this administration is an absolte clusterfark.

sbvft contributor on May 8, 2012 at 7:50 PM

Of course we have to reveal all this intelligence information. It’s important that the public knows everything.

After all, Barry’s re-election is at stake.

PrIorItIes ya know.

GarandFan on May 8, 2012 at 7:50 PM

cjw79 on May 8, 2012 at 7:47 PM

Huh? Try this:

“I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I’m not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.”

The War Planner on May 8, 2012 at 7:50 PM

As with the bin Laden hit, Obama and his gang couldn’t resist blabbing about it as soon as possible.

The “we got bin Laden and his laptop” spike of the football tipped off anyone who might be endangered by the info to get out and run to ground. The CIA wanted to keep it quiet so they could use the intelligence, but Obama couldn’t resist the amateurish response.

As with this blabbing, there should have been time to carefully withdraw the other moles to safety. Now they may have a target on their backs becaus AQ will suspect anyone.

Wethal on May 8, 2012 at 7:46 PM

Since you obviously wouldn’t just blatantly make up the apparent nonsense in the bolded sentence, could you please provide a link demonstrating what you just said? I can’t seem to find one. Thanks!

cjw79 on May 8, 2012 at 7:51 PM

Good grief. So let’s break things down. First we had a Russian spy getting cozy with one of Obama’s cabinet members. Then we have a complete breakdown with the secret service. Now we’ve got AQ double agents within the CIA. I feel so safe.

Weight of Glory on May 8, 2012 at 7:36 PM

The double agents were working for us against Al Qaeda. Why would that make you feel less safe?

Jazzman on May 8, 2012 at 7:52 PM

Dude, relax. This is a chess match and Petraeus is running it.

Mitchell Heisman on May 8, 2012 at 7:48 PM

I’m thinking Patraeus is probably putting on a pair of ass kicking boots right about now.

…….. Watch. Biden will go under the bus for this.

Key West Reader on May 8, 2012 at 7:53 PM

He told NBC that TSA security measures will change to adapt to the new bomb design, but he didn’t say how.

What do you mean “he didn’t say how”? How can the enemy devise the right countermeasures if they don’t know what measures are being taken?

—–

/sarc off

That was a pretty stupid comment. Of course they won’t tell what all of the new security measures are going to be.

RoadRunner on May 8, 2012 at 7:53 PM

Rational Thought on May 8, 2012 at 7:42 PM

Don’t feed the trolls.

pedestrian on May 8, 2012 at 7:53 PM

No, I missed it by two posts. They slid in under the radar while I was typing that first one.

cjw79 on May 8, 2012 at 7:47 PM

Again, you’re reading comprehension nets you an F. You had your little premature proclamation that’d we’d blame Obama, when nobody did. They simply questioned the sense of revealing this bit of info. That “leak” was not assigned to Obama or anyone in his administration in any of the posts prior to yours. Tell you what. Why don’t you leave this thread and come back when a favorable Obama poll comes out. Then you can rub it in our nasty rethugican faces. And it’ll feel so good for you.

Weight of Glory on May 8, 2012 at 7:53 PM

Ok let’s criticize Obama for this. Go!

cjw79 on May 8, 2012 at 7:35 PM

OK, here goes:

WHY IN THE HELL IS HE LEAKING THIS SHIT TO THE FUC*ING PRESS???!!! WHY IN THE HELL IS HE ALWAYS LEAKING THIS SHIT WHEN IT PUTS AMERICANS, OUR AGENTS, OUR MILITARY, AND ANYONE WHO IS HELPING US IN DANGER? WHY DOESN’T HE EVER SHUT THE FU*K UP??!! KEEPING YOUR BIG FAT MOUTH SHUT AT TIMES LIKE THIS IS WHAT PRESIDENT’S DO!! EXCEPT THIS PRESIDENT. HE TAKES VICTORY LAPS AND GETS PEOPLE KILLED.

How’s that?

Rational Thought on May 8, 2012 at 7:42 PM

Thank you! Although I don’t use the F word, I couldn’t have said it better myself. My feelings exactly.

Especially the part about others who help us. I don’t know why any country would help us at this point. He hangs them out to dry or disrespects them or worse, like this.

If we are lucky to get rid of Obama, Romney will have alot of damage control to do with our allies.

Elisa on May 8, 2012 at 7:54 PM

If I don’t see the bomb, this never actually happened.

SouthernGent on May 8, 2012 at 7:42 PM

Move to Yemen. We don’t want their bombs on our planes.

lester on May 8, 2012 at 7:54 PM

I really hope it’s a psy-op being played on Obama, and the CIA knew they could count on him to leak it.

SMACKRUNNER on May 8, 2012 at 7:54 PM

Obama killing terrorists without starting trillion dollar wars. GOP goes on whining and whining.

(MO)[Absolutely disgusting of you to ad hominem him falsely as a child molester, of all things, because he posts alternative political and strategic viewpoints]lester on May 8, 2012 at 7:38 PM

..have no problem with the takedown ops and the drones, you mega-tool, I do have problems with the chest-beating, football-spiking, and cover-blowing aspect. Just like the rest of the folks here with common sense.

Part of winning is NOT letting your enemy know what you know and who’s working for you f—ing with your enemy’s heads.

The War Planner on May 8, 2012 at 7:44 PM

Mitchell Heisman on May 8, 2012 at 7:54 PM

I can’t seem to find one. Thanks!

cjw79 on May 8, 2012 at 7:51 PM

Wait. We have to post a link? For you to have a shred of common sense?

Doof.

Key West Reader on May 8, 2012 at 7:54 PM

All the aspirin factories in Bill, the hunk, Obama’s closet will do wonders in November. OZ is. OZ lives. OZ forever!

Limerick on May 8, 2012 at 7:55 PM

Really? Because they sure didn’t figure this one out, you dumbass.

Chuck Schick on May 8, 2012 at 7:44 PM

Yeah, you’re absolutely right. Al-Qaeda considered CIA their friend before this incident. Now with all the reports they’re gonna start doubting the friendship.

lester on May 8, 2012 at 7:56 PM

When personal attacks start, I know I’ve won the argument. They actually make me happy so keep them coming.

lester on May 8, 2012 at 7:57 PM

Again, you’re reading comprehension nets you an F. You had your little premature proclamation that’d we’d blame Obama, when nobody did. They simply questioned the sense of revealing this bit of info. That “leak” was not assigned to Obama or anyone in his administration in any of the posts prior to yours. Tell you what. Why don’t you leave this thread and come back when a favorable Obama poll comes out. Then you can rub it in our nasty rethugican faces. And it’ll feel so good for you.

Weight of Glory on May 8, 2012 at 7:53 PM

Who do you suppose these two patriots were referring to?

Great…
Let’s yell this from the tallest mountain…
Smart power.
/

Electrongod on May 8, 2012 at 7:32 PM

Is this really necessary to reveal? It means there will be a lot of people killed because they are suspected CIA agents.

Blake on May 8, 2012 at 7:32 PM

Also, I don’t trumpet polls. I accept them. I don’t like the fact that Romney is up in Gallup and Rasmussen, but it’s early. Just like it’s early for the Battleground polls that show Obama ahead in tipping piont states. Data is not a bad thing that evil puppeteers in the media use to try to manipulate your fragile mind, as much as you like to think so.

cjw79 on May 8, 2012 at 7:57 PM

To: All CIA undercover operatives

Run. The Obama administration most likely has blown your cover. If they haven’t yet, they will. Run. Hide. Stay low.

That is all.

fogw on May 8, 2012 at 7:58 PM

imho this is way too much detail. I know there’s a certain game in playing with the minds of the enemy…and if the deep intel people are ok then that’s for the good

but, their minds would be played by the simple display of the bomb…with not a word spoken, except…gottcha

and, for you trolls, barry always plays loose with the CIA. The whole unit that was killed in AF…with the section chief.

he loves to have his buds in the war room…

I guess it is just cool

r keller on May 8, 2012 at 7:58 PM

Part of winning is NOT letting your enemy know what you know and who’s working for you.

The War Planner on May 8, 2012 at 7:44 PM

No, your real problem is you can’t call him weak when he’s taking out terrorists every other day.

lester on May 8, 2012 at 7:59 PM

Wait. We have to post a link? For you to have a shred of common sense?

Doof.

Key West Reader on May 8, 2012 at 7:54 PM

oooooh, okay. So you just know that that’s true, reality be damned? The smarter posters here are probably shaking their head at that statement.

cjw79 on May 8, 2012 at 7:59 PM

Part of winning is NOT letting your enemy know what you know and who’s working for you f—ing with your enemy’s heads.

The War Planner on May 8, 2012 at 7:44 PM

Mitchell Heisman on May 8, 2012 at 7:54 PM

..agreed. But the less said, the better. Besides, can one clearly make the case that this post-Osama takedown diarrhea orgy was anything but chest-beating and football spiking?

The War Planner on May 8, 2012 at 7:59 PM

oh, and i forgot his toying with the idea of prosecuting CIA in waterboarding.. Nice guy…building morale 24/7

r keller on May 8, 2012 at 8:00 PM

Thank you! Although I don’t use the F word, I couldn’t have said it better myself. My feelings exactly.

Especially the part about others who help us. I don’t know why any country would help us at this point. He hangs them out to dry or disrespects them or worse, like this.

If we are lucky to get rid of Obama, Romney will have alot of damage control to do with our allies.

Elisa on May 8, 2012 at 7:54 PM

It has not occurred to you that our intelligence agencies may tell the odd fib if it causes our enemy to keep tripping over their richards?

cjw79 on May 8, 2012 at 7:48 PM

I’m not too worried about the general flip-out on the right over this. One, they could be right (certainly hope not, but it’s possible, you must admit). Two, they probably are wrong in this case, and the more they flip out, the more Al Qaida in Yemen buy it, the worse life becomes for unpopular Al Qaida recruits, particularly Saudis.

It’s kind of pretty in a delightfully ‘evil’ way, almost like a great math equation.

Mitchell Heisman on May 8, 2012 at 8:01 PM

Has Obama taken all the credit yet?

farsighted on May 8, 2012 at 8:01 PM

Move to Yemen. We don’t want their bombs on our planes.

lester on May 8, 2012 at 7:54 PM

Don’t play coy with me. You know what I meant.

SouthernGent on May 8, 2012 at 8:02 PM

Whoever disclosed this should be prosecuted. We don’t have to know everything and the Administration just took out another one of the tools we have to use in this fight. Obama’s desire to take credit for everything is really beginning to get on my nerves.

Can anyone imagine FDR, Truman, JFK, or LBJ disclosing the fact that a CIA operative had managed to infiltrate the Soviet Union, got close to the leaders, and disclosed enough information so that the terrorists could determine exactly who the agent was?

I bet you can’t. The Obama administration would have disclosed the existence of Fat Man and Little Boy.

Resist We Much on May 8, 2012 at 8:02 PM

Who do you suppose these two patriots were referring to?
cjw79 on May 8, 2012 at 7:57 PM

You’re good at assuming. From the story:

The revelation, first reported by The Los Angeles Times

Officials say the informant was working for the CIA and Saudi Arabian intelligence

The officials spoke on condition of anonymity

I didn’t see Obama’s name there. But you assumed that the criticism would be against Obama. You’re reactionary.

Weight of Glory on May 8, 2012 at 8:03 PM

Remember Bush’s speech after 9/11 when he said there would be victories in the war on terror that we will never hear about?

Back when we has a mature adult statesman (flaws and all) instead of this egotistical, thin skinned, narcissistic manchild with alot of baggage and a huge chip on his shoulder who dislikes this country and its constitution so much he wants to “fundamentally change this country.”

He sure has tried. Heaven help us if he gets reelected. He even admits to being free after reelection to do what he wants.

I thank the Bush administration and all the Democrats and Republicans who laid the groundwork for this coup and all our brave men and women who defend us.

I thank Obama for not messing it up entirely. I blame him for taking credit and publicizing this to the world.

Elisa on May 8, 2012 at 8:05 PM

Since you obviously wouldn’t just blatantly make up the apparent nonsense in the bolded sentence, could you please provide a link demonstrating what you just said? I can’t seem to find one. Thanks!

cjw79 on May 8, 2012 at 7:51

Let’s see. I count at least two fallices in your statement. Can anyone find some more?

Wethal on May 8, 2012 at 8:05 PM

PRESIDENT’S DO!! EXCEPT THIS PRESIDENT. HE TAKES VICTORY LAPS AND GETS PEOPLE KILLED.

How’s that?

Rational Thought on May 8, 2012 at 7:42 PM

…it’s the only agency in his government doing anything right…so what else is he going to do?

KOOLAID2 on May 8, 2012 at 8:05 PM

As a professional…

Why in God’s name is this stuff being broadcast and printed all over the globe?

Spiking the ball…again…is going to get a hell of a lot of folks killed one of these days, and not the one’s down range of a Hellfire.

This is the stuff that some scholar might uncover 20, maybe 30, years down the road after docs are declassed….but less than a week after the event?

Pretty f-in stupid.

No. Pretty f-in criminal.

coldwarrior on May 8, 2012 at 8:06 PM

No, your real problem is you can’t call him weak when he’s taking out terrorists every other day.

lester on May 8, 2012 at 7:59 PM

I’m no fan of Obama (worked tirelessly against him in 2008, to the detriment of my relationship, even), but I never doubted his ruthlessness.

I still think he’s a lying, out-of-his-depth snake who cavorted with anti-American domestic terrorists and whose better-written autobiography chock-a-block with marine terms was almost certainly written by one … but then, that rather reinforces my point in italics above.

Mitchell Heisman on May 8, 2012 at 8:06 PM

Okay this is cool and all that we intercepted this bomber and blew up the other guy but someone clearly did not get the memo about the war on terror being over.

trapeze on May 8, 2012 at 8:07 PM

Is this really necessary to reveal?

Blake on May 8, 2012 at 7:32 PM

No. But there are extenuating circumstances. Obama is up for reelection in November.

Notice we still know nothing about the major terrorist plots that were uncovered and foiled in the years immediately following 9/11. That info is still top top secret. Obama’s admin will not declassify any of it.

But plots foiled in the last week? We get to know all about them. My guess is we’ll hear about more between now and November.

At least people get to see some of what the CIA and our intelligence agencies have been doing the past 11 years.

farsighted on May 8, 2012 at 8:07 PM

Yeah, you’re absolutely right. Al-Qaeda considered CIA their friend before this incident. Now with all the reports they’re gonna start doubting the friendship.

molester on May 8, 2012 at 7:56 PM

Dude, stop posting. This isn’t for you.

Chuck Schick on May 8, 2012 at 8:07 PM

I didn’t see Obama’s name there. But you assumed that the criticism would be against Obama. You’re reactionary.

Weight of Glory on May 8, 2012 at 8:03 PM

I’m talking about on this site, not in the newspaper. Did you see Rational [sic] Thought’s diatribe? Other posters referring to such individuals as Oblama, Obooba, Obumbler, or maybe other various witticisms (it’s hard to keep track)? Obama will get the lion’s share of blame for this.

And might I add, assigning BLAME for pulling off a masterful intelligence coup, then letting them know about it, which messes with their heads, possibly leading to paranoia and internal purges, is rich.

cjw79 on May 8, 2012 at 8:08 PM

I would think the title Double Agent is off. One would think that a double agent knows they are working the the US and also working for ALQ with oneself being the only one that gets ahead. Double cross both sides. As I read it which might be wrong was the bomber was working for someone who was CIA but did not say they where CIA but just another ALQ cell. And infiltrated that way.

tjexcite on May 8, 2012 at 8:09 PM

Moreover, the president does not seem to have addressed at all the possibility of seizing material with intelligence value—which may explain his disclosure immediately following the event not only that bin Laden was killed, but also that a valuable trove of intelligence had been seized, including even the location of al Qaeda safe-houses. That disclosure infuriated the intelligence community because it squandered the opportunity to exploit the intelligence that was the subject of the boast.

Former Attorney General Michael Murkasy in the Wall Street Journal this week on Obama’s boasting and blabbing.

Wethal on May 8, 2012 at 8:10 PM

cjw79 on May 8, 2012 at 7:42 PM

…. So you’re the “knee…jerk”

Weight of Glory on May 8, 2012 at 7:44 PM

…oh!…it’s not a knee being jerked with that one!

KOOLAID2 on May 8, 2012 at 8:10 PM

I thank Obama for not messing it up entirely. I blame him for taking credit and publicizing this to the world.

Elisa on May 8, 2012 at 8:05 PM

cc: Weight of Glory

cjw79 on May 8, 2012 at 8:10 PM

Ok let’s criticize Obama for this. Go!

cjw79 on May 8, 2012 at 7:35 PM

No need.

In fact I AM GOING TO THANK PRESIDENT OBAMA!!

THANK YOU PRESIDENT OBAMA FOR CONTINUING THE SECURITY MEASURES YOUR PREDECESSOR IMPLEMENTED!! THEY HAVE KEPT US SAFE!!

Wait, were not those the ones he and the Liberals criticized President Bush over for starting?
Why yes, they were.

Vindication’s a b*tch ain’t it!

Bubba Redneck on May 8, 2012 at 8:10 PM

No, your real problem is you can’t call him weak when he’s taking out terrorists every other day.

lester on May 8, 2012 at 7:59 PM

..perhaps not, but I can call him a hyper-political, military-hating, indecisive SCOAMF pr!ck who has run two almost-run wars into the ground and has dithered on virtually every strategic decision he has had to make during his presidency. For starters, try the Gulf Oil Spill, meeting with general McChrystal, the troop request in the ‘Stan, his running out of town on the debt crisis last year leaving Reid and Boehner holding the bag, jerking off with the XL pipeline decision..

..naw, mate, the guy’s an utterly incompetent executive and sucks at his job. Why would we believe that he would change his stripes now?

The War Planner on May 8, 2012 at 8:11 PM

I would think the title Double Agent is off. One would think that a double agent knows they are working the the US and also working for ALQ with oneself being the only one that gets ahead. Double cross both sides. As I read it which might be wrong was the bomber was working for someone who was CIA but did not say they where CIA but just another ALQ cell. And infiltrated that way.

tjexcite on May 8, 2012 at 8:09 PM

That occurred to me too. Not so much “double agent,” as… “agent.” And I heard the agent volunteered to be the bomber.

cjw79 on May 8, 2012 at 8:12 PM

And might I add, assigning BLAME for pulling off a masterful intelligence coup, then letting them know about it, which messes with their heads, possibly leading to paranoia and internal purges, is rich.

cjw79 on May 8, 2012 at 8:08 PM

The War on Terror is over….
No need to have operatives inside Al-Quada anymore…
So lets tell them how they were fooled…
We can all have a big laugh afterward…

Electrongod on May 8, 2012 at 8:13 PM

In fact I AM GOING TO THANK PRESIDENT OBAMA!!

THANK YOU PRESIDENT OBAMA FOR CONTINUING THE SECURITY MEASURES YOUR PREDECESSOR IMPLEMENTED!! THEY HAVE KEPT US SAFE!!

Wait, were not those the ones he and the Liberals criticized President Bush over for starting?
Why yes, they were.

Vindication’s a b*tch ain’t it!

Bubba Redneck on May 8, 2012 at 8:10 PM

See everyone? Obama kept us safe and he should be thanked. That wasn’t so hard.

cjw79 on May 8, 2012 at 8:14 PM

And when does Joe Biden weigh in and identify the intelligence team that was in charge of this? You know, like his identification of Seal Team Six…

Maybe a “Stand up, Chuck!”?

Wethal on May 8, 2012 at 8:16 PM

See everyone? Obama kept us safe and he should be thanked. That wasn’t so hard.

cjw79 on May 8, 2012 at 8:14 PM

What, by not shutting down the CIA?

Yeah, good thing he didn’t. Kudos Obamao.

bernverdnardo1 on May 8, 2012 at 8:17 PM

I would think the title Double Agent is off. One would think that a double agent knows they are working the the US and also working for ALQ with oneself being the only one that gets ahead. Double cross both sides. As I read it which might be wrong was the bomber was working for someone who was CIA but did not say they where CIA but just another ALQ cell. And infiltrated that way.

tjexcite on May 8, 2012 at 8:09 PM

According to the wiki, a double agent is not double crossing both sides, just one side. It’s still dubious that he is a real double agent by that definition either however, since he was not supposedly trying to penetrate another intelligence agency on behalf of AQ, but rather just blow up a plane.

pedestrian on May 8, 2012 at 8:20 PM

I’m talking about on this site, not in the newspaper. Did you see Rational [sic] Thought’s diatribe? Other posters referring to such individuals as Oblama, Obooba, Obumbler, or maybe other various witticisms (it’s hard to keep track)? Obama will get the lion’s share of blame for this.

cjw79 on May 8, 2012 at 8:08 PM

You know how it takes a few weeks after the first of the year to stop writing the old year on your cheques?

Well, I bet that it took you a year to stop writing Bushitler every time that you referred to 43.

Colour me unconcerned about how people refer to Obama.

I didn’t vote for Bush, but find it hysterical to see Libs whining about Obama being called names like “Oblama” and “Obumbler.” Next thing we know you are going to pick up your toys and run home to Mummy because we say that he got caught picking boogers out of his nose on camera.

Resist We Much on May 8, 2012 at 8:21 PM

Wow, whoda thunk it 3 years ago, you’d have two liberal fanboy lickspittles: Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Jerkoff

cjw79 on May 8, 2012 at 8:14 PM
lester on May 8, 2012 at 7:59 PM

…Touting the warrior skills of President Peace Prize.

BigWyo on May 8, 2012 at 8:22 PM

See everyone? Obama Admiral McRaven kept us safe and he should be thanked.

Thanks, Admiral. Did Obama’s legal team draft another CYA memo so you would make the actual decision and take the blame if something went wrong?

Wethal on May 8, 2012 at 8:23 PM

Why in the HELL is this being publicly revealed?

sandspur on May 8, 2012 at 8:23 PM

Yeah, good thing he didn’t. Kudos Obamao.

bernverdnardo1 on May 8, 2012 at 8:17 PM

GUTSY CALL!!!!

BigWyo on May 8, 2012 at 8:24 PM

Why in God’s name is this stuff being broadcast and printed all over the globe?

coldwarrior on May 8, 2012 at 8:06 PM

The Bush admin never talked about foiled plots, not even in the months leading up to the 2004 election.

However it appears Dear Leader’s regime thinks we need to start hearing all about these things in the months leading up to his re-election bid.

It gets worse. Imagine what the MSM outlets will be doing (for the admin) to try get this information before their competitors. And you can bet Foxnews will probably not get any tips and leaks.

farsighted on May 8, 2012 at 8:25 PM

What, by not shutting down the CIA?

Yeah, good thing he didn’t. Kudos Obamao.

bernverdnardo1 on May 8, 2012 at 8:17 PM

Obama’s got, at a minimum, one of the worst cabinets in history, but he did appoint Petraeus to head CIA, and before him, Panetta did a credible job.

Credit where credit is due: Obama knew he has no background for these matters so he appointed people who did. It’s where Obama thinks he knows something, like law and justice and economics and “fairness”, that’s he’s been a complete mess.

Mitchell Heisman on May 8, 2012 at 8:25 PM

Let’s see if I have this straight: Transparency is necessary for national security/intelligence issues, but not for things like Fast N Furious, TSA complaints, and whatever investigation/non-investigation is happening on Corzine/MF Global.

Glad to see the administration has its transparency priorities in order.
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Bitter Clinger on May 8, 2012 at 8:27 PM

I would think the title Double Agent is off. One would think that a double agent knows they are working the the US and also working for ALQ with oneself being the only one that gets ahead. Double cross both sides. As I read it which might be wrong was the bomber was working for someone who was CIA but did not say they where CIA but just another ALQ cell. And infiltrated that way.

tjexcite on May 8, 2012 at 8:09 PM

According to the wiki, a double agent is not double crossing both sides, just one side. It’s still dubious that he is a real double agent by that definition either however, since he was not supposedly trying to penetrate another intelligence agency on behalf of AQ, but rather just blow up a plane.

pedestrian on May 8, 2012 at 8:20 PM

Looked there too, but the title double agent might be MSM speak as they can not get into what really happened. For him to be a double agent he would have to known his contacts are CIA and was working for both CIA and ALQ at the same time. He most likely thought the info he gave/got to/from his contact was just another ALQ cell.

tjexcite on May 8, 2012 at 8:28 PM

Petraeus and Obama have got to go!

Pork-Chop on May 8, 2012 at 8:28 PM

“..has run two almost-run almost-won wars into the ground and..”

The War Planner on May 8, 2012 at 8:11 PM

/
..correction.

The War Planner on May 8, 2012 at 8:30 PM

Good!! Now Al-Qaida will paranoid as fluck! Not knowing who to trust and if that person got a finger on a drone trigger ( metaphorically) = less plots !!!

Get a grip guys!!

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on May 8, 2012 at 8:33 PM

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