Video: Abortion-supporting Veep scolds Ryan over violating Catholicism on budget

posted at 4:41 pm on May 8, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Paul Ryan had better check in with his parish priest for some penance assignments.  No less an expert in the exercise of Catholicism in public policy than Joe Biden has pronounced the House Budget Committee chair a heretic, or something.  Speaking today at a rabbinical assembly in Atlanta, Biden scolded Ryan for his budget, which Biden pronounced “contrary to the social doctrine you teach and the social doctrine my church teaches”:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vuttHFkrtS4

Few parts of Catholic doctrine are as misunderstood as the Catholic teachings on social justice, which is Biden’s reference here.  Tina Korbe wrote about this very topic in connection with the Ryan budget a month ago, when Ryan defended his budget approach in relation to his faith.  But even apart from Ryan’s defense — which as a fellow Catholic I find compelling — let’s take a look at Pastor Biden and his own adherence to Catholic doctrine related to public policy.  In 2008, when Biden joined Barack Obama on the ticket, NBC’s Tom Brokaw asked him about his support for abortion rights after Edward Cardinal Egan ripped pro-abortion politicians as unworthy leadership in a self-respecting democracy.  Brokaw asked how Biden would answer Obama if asked about when life begins:

BIDEN: I’d say, Look I know when it begins for me.  It’s a personally and private issue. For me as a Roman Catholic, I’m prepared to accept the teachings of my church.  But let me tell you, there are an awful lot of people of great confessional faiths — Protestants, Jews, Muslims, and others — who have a different view.  They believe in God as strongly as I do, intensely as religious as I am religious.  They believe in their faith and they believe in human life.  And they have differing views as to when life — I’m prepared as a matter of faith to accept that life begins at the moment of conception.  But that is my judgment. For me to impose that judgment on everyone else who is equally and maybe even more devout than I am,  seems to me isn’t appropriate in a pluralistic society. …

BROKAW:  But if you believe that life begins at conception, and you’ve also voted for abortion rights —

BIDEN: No, what I’ve voted against was curtailing the right, criminalizing abortion.  I voted against telling everyone else in the country that they had to accept my religiously based view that it’s a moment of conception.  …. How am I going to out and tell you or anyone else that you must insist upon my view that is based on a matter of faith?

So when it comes to protecting defenseless human life, Biden subordinates his faith to his politics, but when it comes to budgets in a time of huge deficits, Biden wants a religious proclamation from the House Budget Committee?  Er … riiiiiiiight.  That goes right in hand with the Obama administration telling Catholic hospitals, charities, and schools that they have to pay for contraception and sterilization because their work in the community isn’t really a practice of their religion.  And let’s not forget that Biden won’t even stand by his moral principles when it comes to challenging China on its horrendous one-child policy, in which abortions are not chosen but forced on women who violate that law:

What we ended up doing is setting up a system whereby we did cut by $1.2 trillion upfront, the deficit over the next 10 years. And we set up a group of senators that have to come up with another $1.2 to $1.7 trillion in savings or automatically there will be cuts that go into effect in January to get those savings. So the savings will be accomplished. But as I was talking to some of your leaders, you share a similar concern here in China. You have no safety net. Your policy has been one which I fully understand — I’m not second-guessing — of one child per family. The result being that you’re in a position where one wage earner will be taking care of four retired people. Not sustainable.

So hopefully we can act in a way on a problem that’s much less severe than yours, and maybe we can learn together from how we can do that.

I wrote about the incident in a column for The Week, reminding readers of more of the context of this cheerleading for forced abortions:

Culturally, the imposition of this policy has pushed China’s women to abort girls, as sons have the traditional duty of caring for elderly parents. This has created an ugly gender imbalance in Chinese society to the extent that some call it a “gendercide.” The report, completed by the Congressional Executive Committee on China (CECC), links that to skyrocketing suicide rates for Chinese women, which run “three to four times” higher than that of men in the rural areas where these policies get enforced most brutally.

The one-child policy has created the need for massive government intervention into the most private of marital transactions, requiring women to have IUDs inserted and only removed with permission from the state. Children born “out of plan” get no “benefits” from the government, and their parents are barred from employment and have their papers seized. And “out of plan” doesn’t just refer to second pregnancies, as the report makes clear, but any pregnancy that occurs without express permission of the Chinese government.

Biden apparently didn’t read the recommendation of the CECC in confronting China over its murderous policies:

Urge Chinese officials to cease coercive methods of enforcing birth control quotas. Urge the Chinese government to dismantle coercive population controls and provide greater reproductive freedom and privacy for women.

Bear in mind that the CECC isn’t a panel dominated by conservatives. The Obama administration has five of its own representatives on the commission; five of the other eight members are Senate Democrats, led by liberal co-chair Sherrod Brown of Ohio. This policy recommendation maintains the credibility of the U.S., even for administrations that back abortion rights at home — when an administration bothers to listen to the counsel of its own advisers.

If anyone has less standing in American public life to lecture Paul Ryan or anyone else on social justice than Joe Biden, it’d be quite an accomplishment.


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Didn’t this fella recently endorse gay “marriage” too? Democrat Catholics… gotta love ‘em.

AbaddonsReign on May 8, 2012 at 4:45 PM

Can’t wait for a full summer of Biden goodness. ///

SMACKRUNNER on May 8, 2012 at 4:45 PM

Stop pickin’ on Joe. Damage him too much, and Obama will dump him for Hillary about convention time – just when he’ll need a real bounce in the polls.

notropis on May 8, 2012 at 4:46 PM

Wish the archbishop would grow some courage and excommunicate his ass.

search4truth on May 8, 2012 at 4:46 PM

Joe Biden also supports Gay marriage which is strictly verboten according to Catholic doctrine. Just sayin…

SWalker on May 8, 2012 at 4:47 PM

Romney’s secret weapon.

ronsfi on May 8, 2012 at 4:49 PM

Has the FDA every checked out those plugs? I mean the guy is suffering from some sort of chemical malfunction and it could be because of the plugs. Just saying, he should have them checked.

dirtseller on May 8, 2012 at 4:50 PM

Vomit.

Gus Bailey on May 8, 2012 at 4:50 PM

Joe Biden: a case in cafeteria Catholicism.

Stoic Patriot on May 8, 2012 at 4:51 PM

Stop pickin’ on Joe. Damage him too much, and Obama will dump him for Hillary about convention time – just when he’ll need a real bounce in the polls.

notropis on May 8, 2012 at 4:46 PM

The only bounce Hillary will ever give Obama will be of a physical nature.

squint on May 8, 2012 at 4:51 PM

I can’t believe the Dems let this guy run around loose without a muzzle on.

Bitter Clinger on May 8, 2012 at 4:52 PM

Catholics on both sides of the political aisle look funny when they try to scold the other side for violating the wills of the Catholic Church. While they may be very anti abortion and very anti gay marriage, they are also strongly against war and and very much a supporter of universal healthcare and social justice welfare programs.

Any Catholic who chooses either to be a rock ribbed conservative or a bleeding heart liberal is going to go against their church on a few things.

vegconservative on May 8, 2012 at 4:53 PM

If his example of leadership wasn’t so sad, he would be funny.

America can not afford four more years. You would think that someone in the democratic party with some brains and forethought would realize the party can’t afford four more years of Obama/Biden.

jazzuscounty on May 8, 2012 at 4:54 PM

…he has arteries to the brain blocked…and the press lets him prant his diversions.
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…it’s the ECONOMY stupid…!!!

KOOLAID2 on May 8, 2012 at 4:54 PM

Who’s worse. Biden the brainiac or John Edwards philanderer? And these people mocked Sarah Palin?

NickDeringer on May 8, 2012 at 4:55 PM

It’s amazing that the one and only “transparent” action this administration puts out is what a doofus Big F’n Deal Joe is and how they will just have to retire him for Ms. Pantsuit.

tru2tx on May 8, 2012 at 4:55 PM

Stand up, Joe. God luv ya!

walkingboss on May 8, 2012 at 4:56 PM

Ryan with budget, bad. Senate with no budget, good.

Any questions?

cajun carrot on May 8, 2012 at 4:57 PM

Perdue — and Obama Biden wants to have it both ways, and as Chuck Todd Ed Morrisey implies, that’s nothing less than sheer incoherence.

Just doing my part in going green around here…recycling quotes to fit the scenario.

DanMan on May 8, 2012 at 4:58 PM

Democrat = Duplicity

Fallon on May 8, 2012 at 4:58 PM

Joe Biden also supports Gay marriage which is strictly verboten according to Catholic doctrine. Just sayin…

SWalker on May 8, 2012 at 4:47 PM

I used to read, whenever Biden’s name was mentioned, how he rode the train everyday “just like a real workin’ man,” and, of course, how he claims he “prays the Rosary every day”, too.

Biden’s one of those people who uses the trinkets, doodads, ceremony and drama of what he thinks “being Catholic” provides to him (notice his self interest and the material world), and, he takes advantage of all of that material show to draw attention to himself, to inflate his ego, to bolster himself, like a new suit or a big, red car: “look at meeee.”

Which isn’t what being Catholic is about but people like Biden — and John Kerry, and Nancy Pelosi, and Kathleen Sebelius, and more than a few liberal females who are in religious orders and “Catholics for Choice” (my God!) and…these are people who use the appearances of the Church but who, when questioned specifically, actually dislike what the Church holds dearest and believes in.

Biden’s a wayward soul. It’s really a challenge to pray for people such as him, but I still try.

Lourdes on May 8, 2012 at 4:58 PM

If anyone has less standing in American public life to lecture Paul Ryan or anyone else on social justice than Joe Biden, it’d be quite an accomplishment.

Sebelius and Pelosi could give him a run for his money.

msmveritas on May 8, 2012 at 4:59 PM

Biden is a CINO, Catholic in Name Only. We’ve seen alot of them over the past couple of months here in North Carolina over the Constitutional amendment defining marriage between one man and woman. The two Catholic Bishops have walked a fine line, vocally supporting the amendment but stopping short of requiring the parishes from engaging an aggressive campaign to support the effort. The worst offenders are the religious orders, Franciscans and Jesuits, who due to the shortage of diocesan priests over the last 20 years, have taken over some of the big and unfortunately more liberal Catholic parishes. The Bishops has little leverage with them at this point, but they are taking names and waiting…

The outcry from CINO’s over the last week after both Bishops sent out a simple post card to every Catholic asking them to support the amendment was profoundly disappointing but predictable. Biden, Pelosi and issues like protection of marriage have highlighted the widening chasm between orthodox Catholics and those clinging to the Vatican II heresies.

A civil war has broken out in the Catholic Church and it will get worse and won’t be over until the CINO’s are driven out.

ironmarshal on May 8, 2012 at 5:00 PM

Anybody else catch SloJoe’s weird response to that NBC Gregory guy asking if he was a lock on the ticket last Sunday morning?

DanMan on May 8, 2012 at 5:00 PM

See Ryan is a Republican Catholic. He’s expected to actually believe in and follow his faith. Biden is a Democrat Catholic. He only pays lip service to his faith.

AverageJoe on May 8, 2012 at 5:00 PM

Wish the archbishop would grow some courage and excommunicate his ass.

search4truth on May 8, 2012 at 4:46 PM

Yes, yes, please! In fact, I would love for the Pope to announce that all Catholics who support abortion are excommunicated. The only trouble is that most American Catholics don’t pay any attention to the freakish pronouncements of the Pope.

thuja on May 8, 2012 at 5:01 PM

Joe is only getting warmed up…..too bad the old dinosaur media won’t report on his thousands of gaffes…each of which is 10x worse than potato/potatoe……

SDarchitect on May 8, 2012 at 5:01 PM

“contrary to the social doctrine you teach and the social doctrine my church teaches”

It was my understanding that the social doctrine his church teaches is that giving is voluntary. Last I looked, he gave hardly anything to charity.

Sue on May 8, 2012 at 5:02 PM

Biden, shut up. You are no more a Catholic than Obama is, and we ALL know what he is…..

chai on May 8, 2012 at 5:02 PM

…While they may be very anti abortion and very anti gay marriage, they are also strongly against war and and very much a supporter of universal healthcare and social justice welfare programs…

vegconservative on May 8, 2012 at 4:53 PM

One of the evils the Left has wrought is in selling the corrupted version of “social justice” that the Catholic Church DOESN’T promote and maintain.

The Church DOES promote and maintain “social justice” but NOT in the political sense that the Left today claims that is (which is Marxism). The Left has corrupted the concept to mean Marxism when that ISN’T what the original concept means in the context it’s held by the Church.

That’s just one thing among the list of many things the Left has corrupted, violated, from among Catholic theology, in order to push Leftwing/Marxist dogma.

Lourdes on May 8, 2012 at 5:03 PM

Mark Levin may be seriously on to something when he states his belief that Biden may have early onset dementia on some mental disability. If that is true, i feel sorry for him. If it is not, then he is possibly the least intelligent person ever to hold the office of V.P.

My only question is….Is Biden more a victim of stupidity or arrogance, and what does that say about the people who elected him to the Senate term after term?

The founders are spinning…..

alecj on May 8, 2012 at 5:03 PM

Correction: “Abortion supporting AND oxymoronic “same-sex marriage” supporting Veep . . .”

eMatters on May 8, 2012 at 5:04 PM

Biden, shut up. You are no more a Catholic than Obama is, and we ALL know what he is…..

chai on May 8, 2012 at 5:02 PM

Yeah, that about says it all…

Lourdes on May 8, 2012 at 5:04 PM

I’m sorry… I cant look at Biden and not think of “…Why are you people clapping? Thick concrete is up my behind! PIKACHU!”

AverageJoe on May 8, 2012 at 5:04 PM

Mark Levin may be seriously on to something when he states his belief that Biden may have early onset dementia on some mental disability. If that is true, i feel sorry for him. If it is not, then he is possibly the least intelligent person ever to hold the office of V.P.

My only question is….Is Biden more a victim of stupidity or arrogance, and what does that say about the people who elected him to the Senate term after term?

The founders are spinning…..

alecj on May 8, 2012 at 5:03 PM

I wouldn’t say dementia but I definitely think that the guy is below some kind of intelligence line.

joey24007 on May 8, 2012 at 5:05 PM

Hey Catholic church, it is time to start excommunicating these baby killers from your midst…hint: you lack credibility when they spout this barf…….if you are worried about staying attached to the federal teat….drop the government like a pair of dirty underwear…look where it has gotten you…we need to, as a church quit making people victims by using the phrase social justice….the only justice we deserve as sinners is the price that Christ paid on the tree……the church needs to help the needy….look no further than the hood and see what the federal daddy has done to the family….whatever happened to a hand up not a handout………..stop looking to big daddy in Washington and look to the eternal Father….liberalism perverts everything it touches, even Christianity………..

crosshugger on May 8, 2012 at 5:06 PM

Joe Biden: Is he hypocritical and stupid? Or stupid and hypocritical? You decide…

cicerone on May 8, 2012 at 5:06 PM

Lourdes on May 8, 2012 at 4:58 PM

Sadly every denomination of every religion has people like that in it, they use religion as a platform for social networking to enrich themselves and make themselves look better than those around them. It’s a problem as old as humanity itself. It’s a shame in the last 7 or 8 thousand years nobody has managed to find a way to cure this behavior.

SWalker on May 8, 2012 at 5:06 PM

Biden, DWS, and Nanzi are my favs…sometimes Harry.

d1carter on May 8, 2012 at 5:06 PM

How about Joe Biden increases his charitable giving?

Schadenfreude on May 8, 2012 at 5:07 PM

It’s not about Catholicism. It’s about getting rid of charity so we’re all dependent on the state.

John the Libertarian on May 8, 2012 at 5:07 PM

I’m prepared as a matter of faith to accept that life begins at the moment of conception. But that is my judgment. For me to impose that judgment on everyone else who is equally and maybe even more devout than I am, seems to me isn’t appropriate in a pluralistic society. …

I wonder if he’d apply that to slavery as well, that he thinks blacks are equal to whites, but if someone else views them as inferior and enslaving them is part of their religion, that he wouldn’t impose his judgement on that guy.

rbj on May 8, 2012 at 5:08 PM

Lourdes on May 8, 2012 at 4:58 PM

Sadly every denomination of every religion has people like that in it, they use religion as a platform for social networking to enrich themselves and make themselves look better than those around them…

SWalker on May 8, 2012 at 5:06 PM

Yes, agreed, and, yes, it’s a problem throughout humanity.

Lourdes on May 8, 2012 at 5:09 PM

Joe Biden: Is he hypocritical and stupid? Or stupid and hypocritical? You decide…

cicerone on May 8, 2012 at 5:06 PM

I vote for his being stupicritical…

SWalker on May 8, 2012 at 5:09 PM

Biden scolded Ryan for his budget, which Biden pronounced “contrary to the social doctrine you teach and the social doctrine my church teaches”

I’m no longer a practicing Catholic, but last I knew, none of the churches that I attended preached the kind of social doctrine that 0bama and Biden practice.

Making things up as they go along. Again.

UltimateBob on May 8, 2012 at 5:09 PM

Joe Biden: Making idiots of the world feel better about themselves every time he opens his friggin’ piehole.

AubieJon on May 8, 2012 at 5:09 PM

All politicians upon taking their oath of office by definition of that oath must become atheists. There religions beliefs can and should shape their moral beliefs but by their oath have no place in their political decisions. Biden by his own definitions betrays his religion and beliefs sole for the sake of the Democratic Socialist Party Elite.

November 2012 will come only once in our life time. “VOTE WISELY MY FRIENDS”

jpcpt03 on May 8, 2012 at 5:11 PM

Stop pickin’ on Joe. Damage him too much, and Obama will dump him for Hillary about convention time – just when he’ll need a real bounce in the polls.

notropis on May 8, 2012 at 4:46 PM

Good point. A co-worker of mine refers to Joe Biden as Joe Burden.

Let’s make sure Slow Joe really is a burden to the 0bama campaign this year. Let him keep talking. To paraphrase Churchill, when your enemy is committing suicide, just stay out of their way.

UltimateBob on May 8, 2012 at 5:13 PM

Lourdes on May 8, 2012 at 4:58 PM

Sadly every denomination of every religion has people like that in it, they use religion as a platform for social networking to enrich themselves and make themselves look better than those around them…

SWalker on May 8, 2012 at 5:06 PM

Yes, agreed, and, yes, it’s a problem throughout humanity.

Lourdes on May 8, 2012 at 5:09 PM

BUT, in the case of Joe Biden, as also Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry, Kathleen Sebelius, Dick Durbin, Sue Collins, etc., these are people in very high profile positions of supposed leadership who actively influence and instruct people (and mislead them in doing so) about their supposed faith (Catholicism). So they also bear a greater burden — in fact, a greater sin — for being irresponsible as to what they do in light of what their alleged associations are.

When people such as these make public statements and worse, create and engage in legislation, that affects our entire nation if not world, and they are people functioning under a corrupt if not intentional state to deceive others, then their sin is, indeed, greater and the evil they do and allow to occur much worse than others.

It’s amusing and “mere problem” up to a point but after that, persons such as these become agents o’ evil, the old devil in the pew.

Lourdes on May 8, 2012 at 5:13 PM

Even though I knew this before, I will never again be able to look at Biden without remembering OBL’s observation about Biden:

“He’s utterly unprepared to become President.”

You can tell how much this wounded Biden because only two days ago, he was rebutting the opinion of a man, who has been dead for a year.

Resist We Much on May 8, 2012 at 5:14 PM

Interview with Cardinal Dolan this past week in our (Milwaukee) Catholic newspaper – Catholic Herald – showed his support for Paul Ryan’s budget and the Catholic Church’s social teachings. You can find it here:

http://www.chnonline.org/news/local/11223-cardinal-dolan-meets-local-media.html

butterflylady on May 8, 2012 at 5:14 PM

Biden is a babbling fool who says what his obvious master, Obama, dictates for him to try to say unless his total ignorance gets in the way like it usually does. Biden is perfect for a narcissist,like Obama, to stand beside and absorb all the undivided attention from the adoring masses. If the truth is known, Obama wouldn’t let Biden lick his boots.

volsense on May 8, 2012 at 5:18 PM

Jesus didn’t speak in favor of government-sponsored compassion. In fact, in saying “don’t let your left hand know what your right hand is doing”, to not make a show of your charitable giving, he seems to be talking against it.

Paul-Cincy on May 8, 2012 at 5:24 PM

We are +$16 TRILLION Dollars in debt and it rises every day…

… and the Democrat controlled Senate has not passed a budget in over three years!!!

We are +$16 TRILLION Dollars in debt and it rises every day…

… and the Democrat controlled Senate has not passed a budget in over three years!!!

We are +$16 TRILLION Dollars in debt and it rises every day…

… and the Democrat controlled Senate has not passed a budget in over three years!!!

Too bad this isn’t an election year…

Seven Percent Solution on May 8, 2012 at 5:24 PM

Didn’t this fella recently endorse gay “marriage” too? Democrat Catholics… gotta love ‘em.

AbaddonsReign on May 8, 2012 at 4:45 PM

From the Catholics I know I’d estimate that at least half are CINOs (Catholic In Name Only). The percentage skews higher if they are registered Democrats.

Annar on May 8, 2012 at 5:24 PM

Amendment 1 is up for vote today in North Carolina. A joint letter from both Raleigh and Charlotte’s bishops was read at Mass on Sunday. County sherrif department was asked to be present at all services. I figure some threat was made. Liberals are a fine, fine bunch, aren’t they?

The NC bishops have been very engaged since the HHS mandate fiasco began. They and the priests I know didn’t backed down on Amendment 1 either.

DrStock on May 8, 2012 at 5:25 PM

My goodness, I actually wasted five minutes reading about this moron. Off to confession.

mkenorthshore on May 8, 2012 at 5:26 PM

There is a certain kind of person, some of them Catholic, that thinks that if you promote all the right kind of causes and feel the right kinds of feeling toward the poor and disadvantaged then you are right with God. You don’t need to actually go out and, you know, feed the hungry, cloth the naked, give drink to the thirsty, and visit the imprisioned. They think that if you pay your taxes and push for government services for those people on the fringe that you never encounter in your daily life if you can help it, you’re golden. These are the very same people who promote abortion in “tough cases” and look down on pro-lifers because they “only care about people before they are born”.

But Jesus did not tell his apostles to go out and fund a government program. He did not say “If a man asks for your shirt, take him to the Department of Human Services and help him apply for aid.” The Good Samaritan did not enroll the beating and robbery victim he came across in a Victim’s Assistance program. No. We are expected to help them ourselves, with our own money, and our own time.

Certainly, we want government to have something for those who are in desperate need, but, cutting the rate of growth on entitlement spending is definitely NOT the same as throwing the disadvantaged out on the streets to starve and pushing Granny off a cliff.

Lily on May 8, 2012 at 5:32 PM

Hey Biden,
do you know that Van Jones is NOT the Pope ?
Now, how about you re-evaluate your ” faith” ?

burrata on May 8, 2012 at 5:40 PM

Biden commenting on someone else’s fidelity to Church teaching would sound like a story from The Onion. Unfortunately, many Democratic Catholic politicians seem to take the dictates of their political party much more seriously than they do the teachings of their Church.

Biden, Pelosi and other cafeteria Catholics in DC should learn to respectfully listen to ALL of the things that their bishops say, and not just to the small parts that provide proof texts to their own social and proclivities.

Audacious Aardvark on May 8, 2012 at 5:44 PM

It’s a personally and private issue. For me as a Roman Catholic, I’m prepared to accept the teachings of my church. – Greasy Joe Biden

Wow…incapable of speaking in complete sentences and completely insane. Nice work in two sentences, Greasy Joe.

Jaibones on May 8, 2012 at 5:47 PM

Biden is a babbling fool who says what his obvious master, Obama, dictates for him….

volsense on May 8, 2012 at 5:18 PM

And 0bama, in turn, does and says whatever his master, Valerie Jarrett, tells him to.

UltimateBob on May 8, 2012 at 5:47 PM

He got an ovation of 10 seconds or for this statement? Rabbis are not showing any wisdom here.

ExpressoBold on May 8, 2012 at 5:47 PM

Oh, man. Bwokaw then nails him to the wall and asks “if you believe that life begins at conception, and then support abortion rights…?”

Biden is retarded.

Jaibones on May 8, 2012 at 5:49 PM

Jesus said teach a man to fish, and to provide for widows.

That’s the general gist of it: those who can, should contribute. Those who truly cannot, should be provided for.

I’m so sick of truly unfaithful people calling out others on their faith. As was Jesus…remember what Jesus said to the pharisees and saducees.

JustTruth101 on May 8, 2012 at 5:57 PM

Sometimes, stupid enemies are the most dangerous.

Pork-Chop on May 8, 2012 at 6:01 PM

Video: Abortion-supporting Veep scolds Ryan over violating Catholicism on budget

Hold on there Ed, you need to update that headline.
Video: Abortion-supporting/ Same Sex marriage proponent Veep scolds Ryan over violating Catholicism on budget.

Last time I checked the Catholic Church wasn’t on board as in not down with same sex marriage. Something about the sanctity of marriage or something.

Dr Evil on May 8, 2012 at 6:17 PM

I’d feel sorry for the man but after the sorrow I feel for my country, there’s none left.

Cleombrotus on May 8, 2012 at 6:19 PM

I think the root of the problem is imagining that your vote is of some intrinsic value, as if casting it for redistributionist schemes is a charitable action, when the truth is that you are merely stealing from the productive.

Count to 10 on May 8, 2012 at 6:19 PM

Biden lecturing someone else on their faith?

Hahahahahahaha!!! The only thing you can say about Biden’s “faith” is that it’s FLEXIBLE.

GarandFan on May 8, 2012 at 6:24 PM

Biden, the guy that only give pennies to charities lecturing someone about caring for others. What a joke.

RonDelDon on May 8, 2012 at 6:41 PM

Wow. Just wow. This man is delusional.

But of course his political power is more important then saving little black female babies from being ripped from the sanctuary of the womb. All while calling his political opponent racist warriors against women.

Gatekeeper on May 8, 2012 at 6:48 PM

Guess Where A Foetus Is Counted As A Full Human Being? The Obama White House

Resist We Much on May 8, 2012 at 4:54 PM

The Obama WH is a parody of itself:

Pro-abortion White House requires preborn babies be registered before visiting

It may be above President Obama’s pay grade to know if preborn babies are human, but the White House Visitors Office knows.

This morning its director, Ellie Schafer (pictured above with President Obama) issued a memo to Congressional offices instructing that preborn babies must be registered along with their mothers before visiting the White House.

Shafer also breached pro-abortion protocol by calling the baby, well, a baby: “We have received a number of calls regarding how to enter security information for a baby that has not yet been born,” wrote Shafer. “Crazy as it may sound, you MUST include the baby in the overall count of guests in the tour.”

Ironic that for the purposes of the security and safety of the presidential household and staff the White House acknowledges preborn babies, while on the other hand President Obama devotes an inordinate amount of energy and the peoples’ money trying to thwart the security and safety of those same babies.

Douglas Johnson, National Right to Life legislative director, noted in a press release about the WH memo: “Notably, the newsletter provides no guidance on what the staff should do if an unborn baby is first registered for security purposes, but then aborted.”

INC on May 8, 2012 at 6:55 PM

INC on May 8, 2012 at 6:55 PM

If a woman plans to have an abortion when she leaves the White House tour, does the Obama administration still mandate that the foetus be counted as a human being before embarking on the tour?

I can’t wait to hear the Progs answer that question because the entire abortion debate turns not on science, but on the subjective determination and desire of the pregnant woman. It will be like reading Chief Justice Taney’s opinion for the majority in Dred Scott.

Take a look at the bluebook questions that I ask at the bottom of my post, And, Now, For A Word About Abortion From…Johnny Rotten & Sid Vicious of The Sex Pistols.

I love screwing with the heads of Progs and trapping them in a corner.

Resist We Much on May 8, 2012 at 7:10 PM

Both Biden (and too many bishops) fail to understand the prime moral social principle of subsidiarity which calls for social issues to be handled at the lowest possible social level -not the highest. The bishops’ push for universal healthcare (socialized medicine)violates that moral principle profoundly.
Just about everything the left does violates it -for it is beyond clear now that they insist upon giving all authority to the central government (Caesar)including our very consciences (which didn’t seem to bother too many on the left and the right. (Perhaps it is because losing an atrophied conscience is no big deal to so many in our morally corrupt masses?)
I’m hoping that this election doesn’t find the USCCB again funding more political left organizations, such as the millions they gave to ACORN (that helped in no small part to get the biggest pro-culture of death president in history elected.)
A message for both Biden and those social/political tinkering bishops, might well be to return your concerns to salvation.

Don L on May 8, 2012 at 7:24 PM

Biden, Pelosi and other cafeteria Catholics in DC should learn to respectfully listen to ALL of the things that their bishops say, and not just to the small parts that provide proof texts to their own social and proclivities.

Audacious Aardvark on May 8, 2012 at 5:44 PM

Respectful? These people don’t have a respectful bone in their bodies. They have been tuning out the tenets of Catholicism for their own convenience and self-aggrandizement since they’ve been in office and most likely before that.

Catholicism means nothing more to them except as a way to increase their own standing with certain voter blocs, and they know it.

PatriotGal2257 on May 8, 2012 at 7:25 PM

Biden’s only relation to Catholic faith is his use of it as a cloak of vote-getting. About the only time he attends is Ash Wednesday. On that day every year, he finds some way to be on TV with ashes on his forehead.

theCork on May 8, 2012 at 8:09 PM

If anyone has less standing in American public life to lecture Paul Ryan or anyone else on social justice than Joe Biden, it’d be quite an accomplishment.

Agree with msmveritas, believe Speaker Pelosi might have accomplished it!

WhyNot on May 8, 2012 at 8:27 PM

Funny thing about the Democrat approach is in their version of Social Justice, people are taught to rely on the state vice be self-reliant. When the majority of these programs were passed, their intention was to advance Social Justice by providing a safety net so the elderly wouldn’t end up destitute and those that fell on hard times would be helped up by the community. Unfortunately, Government involvement makes the receipt of aid an entitlement vice a benefit from a neighbor or church/charity group until you’re back on your feet.
The democrat belief, as shown by VP Biden, is that government charity (handouts) replaces the need for personal charity. However, Jesus’ teachings were focused on how people should interact with other people at the individual level, not through reliance on Rome. Rome, or in this case, Washington does not advance individual salvation–it may help the poor get through the day if administered properly–but the volume of homelessness would make that seem unlikely as well. True Social Justice would be a balance between individuals/groups and government to de-entitlement the assistance and get back to short term aid to get individuals on their feet so they can return to contributing to society on an individual, and group, basis.
And political leaders should get out of the business of interpreting Catholicism or any faith for the public–that’s the clergy’s mission!

WhyNot on May 8, 2012 at 8:51 PM

Joe Biden is manifestly not Catholic. He was excommunicated latae sententiae years ago for heresy. A public official cannot support abortion and remain in communion with the Church. Period. And all you “Catholics” who vote for pro-aborts like Biden, Obama, Nanzi Pelosi: you’ve committed a mortal sin. Hope you confessed that before you took communion.

WarEagle01 on May 8, 2012 at 9:33 PM

I am a regular, church-going Catholic who attends mass mostly to keep the wife happy. I am very pro-life but otherwise as a Catholic I suck (the kind Ed looks down his nose at). Still, it’s hard to imagine a Biden level of suckage. I gotta believe Satan is keeping an extra large pineapple reserved for Biden when that POS shows up (soon, please).

Extrafishy on May 9, 2012 at 5:51 AM

Bernie Madoff

Resist We Much on June 1, 2012 at 1:24 PM