Newest citizen of Switzerland: Michele Bachmann

posted at 9:36 pm on May 8, 2012 by Allahpundit

Yes, really. Although, to be clear, I’m sure they’re talking about dual citizenship here.

If the tea party can take Indiana, why not Zurich?

Arthur Honegger, a reporter for Swiss public broadcaster Schweizer Fernsehen, told POLITICO the Swiss consulate in Chicago has confirmed that the former Republican presidential candidate became a citizen on March 19, 2012…

Marcus Bachmann, the congresswoman’s husband since 1978, reportedly was eligible for Swiss citizenship due to his parents’ nationality — but only registered it with the Swiss government on March 19. Once he did so, Michele automatically became a citizen, too, according to the Honegger.

Anyone know anything about this? Politico’s story appears to be the one and only article about it online right now. Could be that the Bachmanns simply have a soft spot for Switzerland — watch the vid and you’ll see her talk about some of her favorite locales — but it’s impossible not to think of tax implications given that (a) the federal tax code is set for major changes on January 1 when the Bush tax cuts lapse, (b) Bachmann’s a tax lawyer by trade so she’d be especially savvy about strategies to reduce one’s tax burden, and (c) this is, after all, Switzerland we’re talking about. The one flaw in my theory is that … Bachmann and her husband aren’t worth that much. And frankly, I’m not sure how much tax relief would actually be gained by maintaining dual citizenship.

Any theories?


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Hopefully, she will migrate to Switzerland after she loses her current seat in congress.

promachus on May 8, 2012 at 9:39 PM

good 4 her

Wade on May 8, 2012 at 9:39 PM

US taxes on worldwide income, so dual citizenship doesn’t help. The Bachmanns would have to drop off their US passports at State and renounce US citizenship first to even begin to avoid US income tax.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.

FerdtheMoonCat on May 8, 2012 at 9:40 PM

Hopefully, she will migrate to Switzerland after she loses her current seat in congress.

promachus on May 8, 2012 at 9:39 PM

Strong possibility this year. On the surface, the Dems are fielding a pretty good candidate.

strictnein on May 8, 2012 at 9:40 PM

No theories.

But, I’m laughing at the fact that 20% of the North Carolina Democrats voted “No Preference” on the ballot for President.

152,910 so far. Obama won the state by less than 14,000 votes in 2008.

HAAA HAAA HAAA!!!! **breath** HAAA HAAA HAAA HAAA!!!

LoganSix on May 8, 2012 at 9:41 PM

Why does dual citizenship have to be sinister?

Marcus on May 8, 2012 at 9:42 PM

Hopefully, she will migrate to Switzerland after she loses her current seat in congress.

promachus on May 8, 2012 at 9:39 PM

There is a better chance of your troll IQ getting into triple digits than there is of MB losing here seat in Congress.

Bruno Strozek on May 8, 2012 at 9:43 PM

Maybe he just really wanted it based upon his parents, and if it is then automatically conferred on his wife, then she doesn’t have to do anything for it. Sounds like they did it for their children who want dual citizenship.

rbj on May 8, 2012 at 9:44 PM

Any theories?

The Lefftwingnuts will probably say she will be the bag man to get all of Romney’s money out of the US before Obamageddon hits in November.

Not a really big deal, this dual-Swiss/US citizenship thing.

But, it can easily cost her any potential backing of a lot of those who thought she had some Western Conservative chops. If she is not re-elected in November, can’t think of too many better places to go to get out of the spotlight.

Here’s a thought, after things in Europe go all to sh*t as one Euro country after another descends into anarchy…Greece, France, Germany, the other usual other suspects…might be a smart move to toughen up borders, and having that Swiss citizenship will make it easier to get out to Gstaad when the time comes.

Me?

Have been mulling over that Liechtenstein possibility for decades, now.

Family ties. One of the last sane places in Europe.

coldwarrior on May 8, 2012 at 9:45 PM

I’m sure it’s come up before, but can you be a dual citizen and still be a member of Congress? I know you have to reside in the state you represent, but are there any citizenship requirements?

pookysgirl on May 8, 2012 at 9:45 PM

Easy explanation.. With the disasterous GOP primary, all hope is likely lost for the US. If you have a oppourtunity to obtain dual citizenship for yourself and family, take it.

I made sure my wife and kids got Norwegian passports, and I am glad I did.

Norwegian on May 8, 2012 at 9:46 PM

Hopefully, she will migrate to Switzerland after she loses her current seat in congress.

promachus on May 8, 2012 at 9:39 PM

So they can elect another Franken!!!!! Can’t..stop…LAUGHING (at you)

WryTrvllr on May 8, 2012 at 9:47 PM

Bruno Strozek on May 8, 2012 at 9:43 PM

Indeed! Even after the 5 judge panel that rejiggered the district moved it out from around her house, (Yes, that really means she doesn’t live in the district she’s running to represent!!) she’ll still win it easily.

Lew on May 8, 2012 at 9:48 PM

Had she won the primary, would this have disqualified her from serving as President?

El Dillo on May 8, 2012 at 9:48 PM

LoganSix……..

I saw that. Unfrickinbelieveable.

Long haired country boy on May 8, 2012 at 9:50 PM

Abraham Lincoln had citizenship conferred upon him by the Republic of San Marino. Lincoln thought very highly of that particular honor.

coldwarrior on May 8, 2012 at 9:50 PM

Had she won the primary, would this have disqualified her from serving as President?

El Dillo on May 8, 2012 at 9:48 PM

Had she not dropped out, her husband most likely wouldn’t have done this.

MeatHeadinCA on May 8, 2012 at 9:50 PM

Maybe he just really wanted it based upon his parents, and if it is then automatically conferred on his wife, then she doesn’t have to do anything for it. Sounds like they did it for their children who want dual citizenship.

rbj on May 8, 2012 at 9:44 PM

This is what I’m thinking.

Bitter Clinger on May 8, 2012 at 9:51 PM

dual citizenships are a royal pain in the bottom when it comes to taxation.

US Citizens need to pay whereever whatever and on top some others give you the same headache, resulting in double filings, extra audits and what have you.

Now, what everyone forgets is that Bachmann worked for the IRS so she must have figured it out how to reduce the pain

and may be this is just her exit strategy if Romney fails.

huntingmoose on May 8, 2012 at 9:52 PM

Had she won the primary, would this have disqualified her from serving as President?

El Dillo on May 8, 2012 at 9:48 PM

No. She’s still a natural-born American citizen. She’s not renouncing her American citizenship.

Bitter Clinger on May 8, 2012 at 9:52 PM

Well – if Ogabe is reelected – we’re screwed but conservatives will come out of that in a strong position to pick up the pieces.

If Willard is elected – we’re screwed and conservatives will be sentenced to several generations of political exile.

Maybe Michelle is predicting a win for Willard?

Anyway – I thought Barney Frank and the other Socialists (with no doubt some Republican help) closed all the exit doors for rich people to move their money abroad.

HondaV65 on May 8, 2012 at 9:52 PM

Sounds like they did it for their children who want dual citizenship.

despite all salient thoughts, yeah, 99% likely the reason since it will allow them to work overthere.

huntingmoose on May 8, 2012 at 9:53 PM

This is still America, right?

They can claim whatever citizenship they like…Those here illegally from South of the border do it all the time…

Why does dual citizenship have to be sinister?

Marcus on May 8, 2012 at 9:42 PM

Indeed. All depends on who is “reporting” the news and how they want it to look. If it were a lib, they would celebrate their multiculturalism and understanding of family, roots, blah, blah.

Sounds to me like she didn’t have to do anything, and it was “granted” to her just for existing and being married to one who can claim dual-citizenship.

Bottom line – who the hell cares and why am I commenting here?

To quote many a great HA commenter: conservatives need to stay on topic. To that end, I would just like to say – Obama ate a dog.

Hueydriver on May 8, 2012 at 9:53 PM

Had she won the primary, would this have disqualified her from serving as President?

El Dillo on May 8, 2012 at 9:48 PM

Had she not dropped out, her husband most likely wouldn’t have done this.

MeatHeadinCA on May 8, 2012 at 9:50 PM

And this is why reading is fundamental: I hadn’t noticed the date.

El Dillo on May 8, 2012 at 9:54 PM

shoot, do you blame her?! Plan B baby!

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on May 8, 2012 at 9:55 PM

yo….where is Sarah???!!!

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on May 8, 2012 at 9:55 PM

Just wait for cries if she tries to run for the WH again.

Not only did she have Swiss bank accounts, she got citizenship to hid the money even more. The spin will be, as Swiss citizens have better ability to hid money in Swiss banks accounts over just US citizens.

tjexcite on May 8, 2012 at 9:56 PM

Maybe she’s a huge fan of Roger Federer.

SouthernGent on May 8, 2012 at 9:56 PM

“… in Italy for 30 years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder, and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the Renaissance. In Switzerland they had brotherly love – they had 500 years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock.”

HEH.

Seriously: besides cuckoo clocks they have chocolate. And banks. And a devolved polity. And a gun in every home. And low crime.

reliapundit on May 8, 2012 at 9:57 PM

US taxes on worldwide income, so dual citizenship doesn’t help. The Bachmanns would have to drop off their US passports at State and renounce US citizenship first to even begin to avoid US income tax.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.

FerdtheMoonCat on May 8, 2012 at 9:40 PM

If Obama is reelected, many wealthy people are going to renounce their citizenship. The only good thing in the end will be less illegals wanting to come to the United States.

thuja on May 8, 2012 at 9:57 PM

Hopefully, she will migrate to Switzerland after she loses her current seat in congress.

promachus on May 8, 2012 at 9:39 PM

Obvious troll is obvious.

Red Cloud on May 8, 2012 at 9:57 PM

Maybe she’s a huge fan of Roger Federer.

SouthernGent on May 8, 2012 at 9:56 PM

I think she’s a Krokus fan.

Mark1971 on May 8, 2012 at 9:58 PM

Hopefully, she will migrate to Switzerland after she loses her current seat in congress. promachus on May 8, 2012 at 9:39 PM

There is a better chance of your troll IQ getting into triple digits than there is of MB losing here seat in Congress. Bruno Strozek on May 8, 2012 at 9:43 PM

Good one. I’d be interested to know what Bachmann did to hurt Promachus’ feelings. Other than run for the Presidency which of course is reason 73 why Palin didn’t run.

Basilsbest on May 8, 2012 at 9:58 PM

She is on a house hunting mission for Lugar.

hillsoftx on May 8, 2012 at 9:59 PM

Ummmm…ahhhhh…ummmm…Nope. I got nothin’.

Rational Thought on May 8, 2012 at 10:00 PM

Good one. I’d be interested to know what Bachmann did to hurt Promachus’ feelings. Other than run for the Presidency which of course is reason 73 why Palin didn’t run.

Basilsbest on May 8, 2012 at 9:58 PM

self explanatory

WryTrvllr on May 8, 2012 at 10:00 PM

Not only did she have Swiss bank accounts, she got citizenship to hid the money even more. The spin will be, as Swiss citizens have better ability to hid money in Swiss banks accounts over just US citizens.

tjexcite on May 8, 2012 at 9:56 PM

“Vanna, can I have an “E” please”…

hillsoftx on May 8, 2012 at 10:00 PM

1. Nothing to be gained from a fiscal viewpoint. As a non-resident, Bachmann’s husband won’t be paying any taxes to the confederation with the possible exception of certain withholding taxes if he has income derived from Swiss sources.

2. Michelle Bachmann didn’t automatically become a Swiss citizen. Spouses of Swiss citizens can apply for naturalization after being married for 6 years – which I believe it’s the Bachmann’s case – but it’s not “automatic”; merely a simplified process.

joana on May 8, 2012 at 10:01 PM

Maybe she just digs Switzerland. It is lovely after all. She doesn’t strike me as one who will run from a fight should that occur.

Bmore on May 8, 2012 at 10:02 PM

Is it the possibility to highlight that Obama has dual citizenship ?

William Amos on May 8, 2012 at 10:07 PM

Oh Horrors!!! Michele Bachmann has a Swiss bank account!

The Democrats will attack her so much she’ll look like Swiss cheese.

Steve Z on May 8, 2012 at 10:12 PM

I’m not a bit surprised. I always though she has Swiss cheek bones.

Mason on May 8, 2012 at 10:19 PM

Any theories?

Even easier to defend than Alaska.

Cleombrotus on May 8, 2012 at 10:21 PM

Probably did it for the discount on Riccola.

coldwarrior on May 8, 2012 at 10:21 PM

Easy explanation.. With the disasterous GOP primary, all hope is likely lost for the US. If you have a oppourtunity to obtain dual citizenship for yourself and family, take it.

I made sure my wife and kids got Norwegian passports, and I am glad I did.

Norwegian on May 8, 2012 at 9:46 PM

Don’t be the kind of person who leaves California and then brings all the things that destroyed California with them. Make sure your kids aren’t like that either.

David Blue on May 8, 2012 at 10:26 PM

She will use her citizenship to get out when Obama closes the borders. Einstein was able to flee Germany to America when the Socialists took power, so she is thinking ahead.

Remember, they always build a wall.

Bulletchaser on May 8, 2012 at 10:27 PM

I loathe Bachmann. That said, what’s the big deal?

The Marxist-in-chief has dual citizenship and so does Rahm Emanuel.

And frankly so do I.

If I have to live in socialism I’d rather be eating and drinking wine in Italy instead of putting up with the food police here.

Jayrae on May 8, 2012 at 10:30 PM

The Swiss Franc would be a wise thing to have invested in, if as many predict the US dollar goes down the toilet.

Rebar on May 8, 2012 at 10:36 PM

Next up Santy changes to Bolivian citizenship…

Bradky on May 8, 2012 at 10:39 PM

Obvious troll is obvious.

Red Cloud on May 8, 2012 at 9:57 PM

…what slime does promucus troll for?

KOOLAID2 on May 8, 2012 at 10:42 PM

Not much to be gained by it…. Living as an American expat can be very difficult. We are really some of the least free people on the planet. Uncle Same wants to know where you are and what you are doing. It demands you declare how much money you’ve made and after a small amount, will insist on getting it’s cut.

Probably the worst though is we are made fun of by Brits and Australians etc…..laughing as they make sure we check in with our government….”home of the brave and land of the free”

Its hard to even get a bank account these days….Americans need not apply..

Go away, American millionaires.

That’s what some of the world’s largest wealth-management firms are saying ahead of Washington’s implementation of the Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act, known as Fatca, which seeks to prevent tax evasion by Americans with offshore accounts. HSBC Holdings Plc (HSBA), Deutsche Bank AG, Bank of Singapore Ltd. and DBS Group Holdings Ltd. (DBS) all say they have turned away business.

Bank of Singapore, which managed $32 billion at the end of 2011, is the private banking arm of Southeast Asia’s second-largest lender, Oversea-Chinese Banking Corp.

“I don’t open U.S. accounts, period,” said Su Shan Tan, head of private banking at Singapore-based DBS, Southeast Asia’s largest lender, who described regulatory attitudes toward U.S. clients as “Draconian.”

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-05-08/u-s-millionaires-told-go-away-as-tax-evasion-rule-looms.html

Rahmulus on May 8, 2012 at 10:42 PM

Ol crazy eyes needs a separate citizenship for each eye … that’s why she idd this

Bradky on May 8, 2012 at 10:44 PM

The one flaw in my theory is that … Bachmann and her husband aren’t worth that much.

…yet. She might have flopped as a candidate, but perhaps she’s hoping that a future book and/or speaking tour might be the next sensation among her natural constituency.

calbear on May 8, 2012 at 10:58 PM

You probably get a discount on ski passes. Maybe.

Actually that’s doubtful. The swiss don’t do discounts on anything for anyone. Ever.

CorporatePiggy on May 8, 2012 at 11:12 PM

I’m sure it’s come up before, but can you be a dual citizen and still be a member of Congress? I know you have to reside in the state you represent, but are there any citizenship requirements?

pookysgirl on May 8, 2012 at 9:45 PM

Richard Lugar has not resided in Indiana for 30 years, so residence is not a requirement for Senator or Representative, but maybe by state law in some states.

Dasher on May 8, 2012 at 11:23 PM

Is she allowed to hold office anymore?

Dante on May 8, 2012 at 11:34 PM

Idiots. The obvious answer is that the Bachmanns have funds on deposit in Swiss banks and the activation of their citizenship is being undertaken now to invoke protections against divulgence of that information to the IRS that wouldn’t otherwise be afforded to ‘foreigners’.

rayra on May 9, 2012 at 12:01 AM

Is it the possibility to highlight that Obama has dual citizenship ?

William Amos on May 8, 2012 at 10:07 PM

According the a birther website who’s quoting World Nut Daily? Yes, that’s pretty solid.

lester on May 9, 2012 at 12:36 AM

shoot, do you blame her?! Plan B baby!

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on May 8, 2012 at 9:55 PM

I don’t think babies result from Plan B.

unclesmrgol on May 9, 2012 at 12:37 AM

This nation was idiotic to allow dual-nationalities. It has proven a disaster. But once allowed, of course any one would given the direction of the nation to a Greece like end.

pat on May 9, 2012 at 12:55 AM

The Bachmann’s are no dummies.

A safe haven for the impending economic collapse.

The Ugly American on May 9, 2012 at 12:57 AM

A Republican “bright, shiny object”? The Dem’s will spend valuable weeks and months talking about this, organizing her recall election, shooting anti-Swiss slogans in the streets…

What’s next? Rick Perry climbs over the fence into Mexico? Herman Cain becomes a greeter for the new “9-9-9″ Casino in Vegas? Mitch Daniels announces he’s going through “gender reassignment surgery”? Mitt Romney opens an offshore bank account?

Oh wait. Scratch that last one.

MTF on May 9, 2012 at 1:03 AM

I just want to point out that Obama eats dog’s. That is all.

MTF on May 9, 2012 at 1:06 AM

Arthur Honegger, a reporter for Swiss public broadcaster Schweizer Fernsehen…

Wonder if he’s related to Arthur Honegger, the 20th-century Swiss composer.

Olo_Burrows on May 9, 2012 at 3:26 AM

Well – if Ogabe is reelected – we’re screwed but conservatives will come out of that in a strong position to pick up the pieces….

HondaV65 on May 8, 2012 at 9:52 PM

What pieces? Surely you jest?

Don L on May 9, 2012 at 5:32 AM

Why does dual citizenship have to be sinister?

Marcus on May 8, 2012 at 9:42 PM

When it involves conservative Republicans… That Michelle is a woman is a bonus…

The LSM War on the Right continues apace…

Khun Joe on May 9, 2012 at 6:55 AM

coldwarrior on May 8, 2012 at 9:45 PM

That’s what I was thinking too. If Thuggo gets his second term, the Bachmanns won’t be the only ones looking for a safe haven.

petefrt on May 9, 2012 at 7:02 AM

Im working on my Mexican citizenship to take advantage of the bennies.

rickyricardo on May 9, 2012 at 7:29 AM

It could just be a matter of, “Hey look, we could get dual citizenship if we wanted too, well why not?”

I would if I could, I’m currently looking at possibly getting dual citizenship in Ireland (family ties, with possible future temporary residence in the next year or so).

Even if you never make use of it, it seems like a practical thing to do if you can swing it.

Although at this rate Europe looks like it will fall before the U.S. even if the Chicago mobster gets re-elected. New Zealand/Australia look like they’re worth investigating.

Blacksoda on May 9, 2012 at 9:10 AM

Obama has dual citizenship: USA and Indonesia…maybe even Kenya.

albill on May 9, 2012 at 9:30 AM

Why does dual citizenship have to be sinister?

Marcus on May 8, 2012 at 9:42 PM

It’s not sinister. But, it also shouldn’t exist. The oath that newly minted citizens take has them abjuring all allegiance to any foreign sovereign. If you want to be an American, great! If you want to be Swiss, go be Swiss; I’ll hold the door for you. But, don’t try to have it both ways.

GWB on May 9, 2012 at 9:51 AM

Good for them. Switzerland is pristine.

But, it is super expensive. One crepe in Geneva is about 17 dollars. You could probably eat 3 or 4 for lunch. Great place to lose weight? Although that’s never been MB’s problem. I have no idea why they benefit. Maybe she’s just getting ready for the coming economic collapse. Maybe BHO is inevitable? Romney was.

balkanmom on May 9, 2012 at 9:58 AM

Not only did she have Swiss bank accounts, she got citizenship to hid the money even more. The spin will be, as Swiss citizens have better ability to hid money in Swiss banks accounts over just US citizens.

tjexcite on May 8, 2012 at 9:56 PM

“Vanna, can I have an “E” please”…

hillsoftx on May 8, 2012 at 10:00 PM

“I have no respect for a man who can spell a word only one way.”~~Mark Twain

timberline on May 9, 2012 at 11:33 AM

What I’m about to say, I say as someone who loves this country. If I was eligible for citizenship elsewhere and, more particularly, a passport, due to ancestry I would sign up immediately. Unfortunately, I am typical American mutt, although I am 1/32 Cherokee which, as we’ve recently found, is worth nothing. This country is heading for a cliff both financially and politically. Having a “safe” haven to flee to will be of immeasurable advantage when the moment comes. Think you won’t need that? The IRS now has the power to void your passport and keep you in the country against your will if you have delinquent taxes. This is the start of what will probably be a series of capital controls designed to keep you and, more importantly, your assets, within US jurisdiction. There are numerous online communities devoted to internationalizing our lives just for this purpose.

Hucklebuck on May 9, 2012 at 11:40 AM

For civil servants at least, the regs/laws allow us to have dual citizenship as long as there is no oath of allegiance to the other country. I have a friend whose husband is Irish, and she got dual citizenship after checking to see what the rule was. Not sure if it’s applicable to constitutional, elected officials or not.

321mdl on May 9, 2012 at 11:41 AM

I take her at her word, her children were interested in their heritage and her husband qualified because it’s his heritage too.

I looked into the same thing for my mom for Italy, and my dad for Ireland, but we don’t qualify. Once you get more than a generation away from crossing the pond, you generally don’t qualify.

It’s a fun thing to do, and having a non-US passport can also make you safer while traveling overseas.

From a patriotic standpoint, I regret that we changed the law. Immigrants used to have to swear fealty to the US and renounce any other previous loyalties, it’s a conflict of interest not to.

Common Sense on May 9, 2012 at 6:54 PM