Revealed: CIA foils airplane bomb plot by Al Qaeda in Yemen timed to coincide with OBL anniversary; Update: More bombers?

posted at 4:50 pm on May 7, 2012 by Allahpundit

The good news? Apparently our intel in Yemen is sharp enough that this guy was picked up before he’d even chosen a target.

The bad news? The bomb is a more sophisticated version of the underwear device worn by Abdulmutallab in his failed attempt on Christmas Day 2009. Which is to say, no one’s sure yet whether those fancy new TSA scanners would have picked this thing up had the bomber tried to board a plane in the U.S.

The FBI is examining the latest bomb to see whether it could have passed through airport security and brought down an airplane, officials said. They said the device did not contain metal, meaning it probably could have passed through an airport metal detector. But it was not clear whether new body scanners used in many airports would have detected it…

The operation unfolded even as the White House and Department of Homeland Security assured the American public that they knew of no al-Qaida plots against the U.S. around the anniversary of bin Laden’s death. The AP learned about the thwarted plot last week but agreed to White House and CIA requests not to publish it immediately because the sensitive intelligence operation was still under way. Once officials said those concerns were allayed, the AP decided to disclose the plot Monday despite requests from the Obama administration to wait for an official announcement Tuesday…

It’s not clear who built the bomb, but, because of its sophistication and its similarity to the Christmas bomb, authorities suspected it was the work of master bomb maker Ibrahim Hassan al-Asiri. Al-Asiri constructed the first underwear bomb and two others that al-Qaida built into printer cartridges and shipped to the U.S. on cargo planes in 2010.

Not the only recent U.S. intel coup in Yemen: Just last night, news broke that one of the plotters in the U.S.S. Cole bombing was hit with a missile while stepping out of his car in a southern part of the country. Ten days before that, WaPo reported that Obama had greenlit the use of “signature strikes” by CIA drones in Yemen for cases in which the target is a suspected jihadi but his identity isn’t known. I’m curious to hear more about how they nabbed the airplane plotter. Assuming any details are forthcoming, that’ll give us more of a clue about U.S. intel’s reach inside the country. Stand by for updates.

Update: Obama was briefed on the plot sometime in April. If you’re wondering why the White House didn’t mention it during Bin Laden week, follow the link up top and read the AP piece. The AP learned of it last week but kept quiet about it because the operation to grab the bomber was still under way. Only now was it safe to report.

Update: NRO’s Greg Pollowitz raises a good question on Twitter: Where’s the bomber now and how is he being interrogated?

Update: One question mark is the bomber. The other is the bombmaker:

It’s unclear who built the bomb, but the device does bear similarities to other explosive devices built by master bomb-maker Ibrahim al-Asiri. However, Asiri may not have been directly involved in this plot.

According to one official, there is “evidence that Asiri has passed along his bomb-making knowledge to others.” The official would not say whether Asiri or an apprentice were involved in this plot.

In an exclusive meeting, a senior U.S. intelligence official told NBC News that Asiri posed the single most dangerous threat to the United States.

According to the official, Asiri is the most capable of carrying out al-Qaida’s threat to launch a significant terrorist attack to kill Americans inside the United States.

Update: Things are starting to come together. Fahd Al-Quso, the U.S.S. Cole plotter liquidated in yesterday’s missile strike, had a hand in the foiled bomb plot:

Al-Quso had replaced Anwar al Awlaki as head of external operations for Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula.

He was continuing the terrorist group’s plans to take down an international airliner with an explosive — one foiled in recent days, government officials say…

U.S. government sources tell ABC News that Al-Quso and Asiri continued to plan for a similar terrorist attack, using a small IED that could be hidden on a person, with the same goal of bringing down an international airline…

The IED was on its way to the individual who would carry out the operation when it was intercepted by law enforcement forces.

I assume that Obama’s approval of “signature strikes” in Yemen was also made with this plot in mind, in order to give Petraeus a better shot at taking out al-Quso and/or Asiri, but we’ll have to wait for more details on that.

Update: Last time, AQ put all its chips on Abdulmutallab to take down a plane. This time, they might have diversified:

U.S. and European officials say that even though an al Qaeda bomber was stopped before he could board a plane for the U.S., the threat is far from over — there are believed to be several other would-be bombers with similar non-metallic devices that could get through most airport security screening…

“The FBI currently has possession of the IED and is conducting technical and forensics analysis on it,” said the FBI in a statement. “Initial exploitation indicates that the device is very similar to [bombs] that have been used previously by al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) in attempted terrorist attacks.” White House officials said President Obama was briefed on the plot in April by his counter-terror advisor, John Brennan.


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There have to be ever bombers with ever more sneaky devices otherwise there is no excuse to continue to abuse American citizens at airports.

clippermiami on May 7, 2012 at 8:44 PM

Key West Reader on May 7, 2012 at 8:42 PM

Are you now saying the US should negotiate with terrorists? I dont think so.

damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 8:47 PM

Imagine if GWB were killing up to a thousand “alleged” terrorists or more a year by remote control.

He couldn’t have in his day. The technologies and engineering involved were in their infancy in 2001 and have only advanced, matured, and gone into mass production in the past handful of years.

But imagine what Senator Obama be saying. And Pelosi. And Reid. And the NYT, CBSNBCABC, CNN, MSNBC, Chrissy Mathews, etc.

Imagine the media coverage. Imagine the protests.

Just imagine.

And we’re supposed to believe the MSM may be only a little, slightly, perhaps just a tiny bit biased?

farsighted on May 7, 2012 at 8:49 PM

Are you now saying the US should negotiate with terrorists? I dont think so.

damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 8:47 PM

Well, Well, your present-dunce has been doing it since 2009, much to the chagrin of your pals at NPR

Do you want the douche of the year award or what?

Key West Reader on May 7, 2012 at 8:50 PM

Could we slow down just a little on immigration/visas from those pesky countries that want to KILL us? This Religion of Peace crap is out of control.
Look at the hijinks they are pulling at the Gitmo proceedings.

arnold ziffel on May 7, 2012 at 8:50 PM

Culcha Vulcha?

Bring out the douche bag award. We have a winner:

Damian1967

Key West Reader on May 7, 2012 at 8:51 PM

I assume that Obama’s approval declaration that the war on terror is over there is no need for “signature strikes” in Yemen…or anywhere else for that matter!

Fixed it!

But…but…I thought there never was a war on terror, that the “war on terror” was all just an evil plot by Bush-hitler and his evil henchman Darth Cheney to get oil or…or to take away our freedoms…or…or to steal an election…or…or to…ah hell…I hate channeling leftards!

Seriously, I’ll bet they’re waterboarding the perp right now…I’d love for that info to get out and watch the lefty heads esplode!

P.S. Where the hell are the Code Pinkos with all this war and assasination is going on…seriously their silence since Obama has been in office is absolute proof they’re partisan hack hypocrites to the bone! When they do come back from under their rocks to protest any military action under a repub president their silence during the Obama administration needs to be pointed out at every opportunity as they have left no doubt they are partisan hypocrites and should therefore be hung by their own petard!!

Liberty or Death on May 7, 2012 at 8:55 PM

but didn’t dear leader say the war on terror is over…he spiked the ball plenty of times already

cmsinaz on May 7, 2012 at 8:59 PM

farsighted on May 7, 2012 at 8:49 PM

amen brother

cmsinaz on May 7, 2012 at 9:00 PM

Culcha Vulcha?

Bring out the douche bag award. We have a winner:

Damian1967

Key West Reader on May 7, 2012 at 8:51 PM

Party on without me, dudette! You know ya girl’s a lover not a fighter! Really digging it when you whip out a sweet bag of ninja-strength “funny”, though. Knew you had it in ya!

:P

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on May 7, 2012 at 9:02 PM

Liberty or Death on May 7, 2012 at 8:55 PM

Mission Accomplished

damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 9:04 PM

Where’s all those anti-war protesters that called GW a war mongering baby killer?

sandee on May 7, 2012 at 5:02 PM

EXACTLY!! See my earlier post!

Liberty or Death on May 7, 2012 at 9:06 PM

I don’t think we fully appreciate how dangerous it is for the legacy media to be so far in the tank with the current administration…

d1carter on May 7, 2012 at 9:10 PM

Mission Accomplished

damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 9:04 PM

I’m not sure if you’re being sarcastic or that you really believe Obama is why the “mission is accomplished” and that the war on terror really is over…if you’re being sarcastic toward Obama then that’s funny, but if you believe Obama “accomplished the mission” then you are naive!

Liberty or Death on May 7, 2012 at 9:16 PM

well this is totally unexpected since the prez told us last week that the war on terror was over.

i guess terror didn’t get that memo.

DrW on May 7, 2012 at 9:19 PM

Liberty or Death on May 7, 2012 at 9:16 PM

No, it was Bush with the Mission Accomplished Banner.

damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 9:23 PM

strong brave Obama…anybody have any cocnut shells to simulate horses?

DanMan on May 7, 2012 at 5:04 PM

Heh, love me some Monty Python!

Liberty or Death on May 7, 2012 at 9:23 PM

DrW on May 7, 2012 at 9:19 PM

Where did Obama say the war on terror was over?

I can not find any quote of him in fact saying this, another right wing lie?

damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 9:25 PM

There is a 70 year old Jewish man being held hostage on pain of death
Key West Reader on May 7, 2012 at 8:44 PM

What does his religion have to do with anything?! It’s not the first time AQ kidnapped an American. Are you saying that Jews Americans are somehow more important than the rest of Americans.
We do not negotiate with terrorist. Taliban is much more different situation and you know it.

Salahuddin on May 7, 2012 at 9:25 PM

Yeah, imagine if he had said that;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrW4fOGIMVY

narciso on May 7, 2012 at 9:27 PM

Mission Accomplished

damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 9:04 PM

I’m not sure if you’re being sarcastic or that you really believe Obama is why the “mission is accomplished” and that the war on terror really is over…if you’re being sarcastic toward Obama then that’s funny, but if you believe Obama “accomplished the mission” then you are naive!

Liberty or Death on May 7, 2012 at 9:16 PM

He really does believe it. You can’t fault him, though. He’s been basement dwelling since mid 2009 eating cheeto’s and drinking sprite. Once a week he gets called upstairs to fill out his online application for continued unemployment, renewal of food card benefits and reaffirms his allegiance to the socialist party. And, he hands in his laundry to his mom.

….

Key West Reader on May 7, 2012 at 9:27 PM

It was probably Power, or Koh, possibly, McDonough and Rhodes;

http://www.lowellsun.com/editorials/ci_20494730/war-terror-is-over

narciso on May 7, 2012 at 9:29 PM

Key West Reader on May 7, 2012 at 9:27 PM

Funny guy you are.

I have NEVER taken any government pay outs. I own 2 companies and have alomst 100 people working for me.

And I have donated to Republicans and Democrats alike, it all depends on who best fits my beliefs.

So go blow your smoke somewhere else rather than assuming you know who or what I am.

damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 9:30 PM

Salahuddin on May 7, 2012 at 9:25 PM

Its called Race Baiting

damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 9:31 PM

narciso on May 7, 2012 at 9:29 PM

Thats far from Obama saying it, as implied in other posts. So let me get this straight, Obama did NOT say it?

So another lie by the right as suspected.

damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 9:33 PM

What does his religion have to do with anything?! It’s not the first time AQ kidnapped an American. Are you saying that Jews Americans are somehow more important than the rest of Americans.
We do not negotiate with terrorist. Taliban is much more different situation and you know it.

Salahuddin on May 7, 2012 at 9:25 PM

I’m glad you brought this up. Obama began his mission back in 2009 negotiating with terrorists.

And, in case you forgot recent days: There is this: . Shameful.

And, so you will never forget what happened? There is this:

Get Smart.

Key West Reader on May 7, 2012 at 9:34 PM

Key West Reader on May 7, 2012 at 9:34 PM

There is a big difference, working with the Taliban (As Bush did as well) is not the same as giving in to demands of terrorists.

This is Negotiations with a group of people that can not be wiped out, and all of them are not terrorists.

And BTW, Bush negotiated with the Taliban as well.

damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 9:38 PM

In his new book, the first Homeland Security chief, Tom Ridge, accuses top aides to President George W. Bush of pressing him to raise the terror alert level to influence the 2004 presidential election.

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2009/08/ridge_accuses_b.html

damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 8:39 PM

That seems a hell of a lot different than what you posted here…to wit:

Kind of like when Bush was spiking the terror alert level around his re-election time.

damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 8:00 PM

So which is it?

BlaxPac on May 7, 2012 at 9:39 PM

The George W. Bush administration, like all of its predecessors, swore never to negotiate with terrorists. But it did undertake an extraordinary, and extraordinarily secret, outreach effort to open a line of communication with Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda’s senior leadership. It was an attempt to replicate how the United States tried to sustain a dialogue with the Soviet Union, even during the darkest days of the Cold War, when White House and Kremlin leaders described in private and in public a set of acceptable behaviors — and described with equal clarity the swift, vicious, even nuclear punishment for gross violations.

In the months after the Sept. 11 attacks, Bush’s national security staff, working through the intelligence agencies, made several attempts to get a private message to bin Laden and his inner circle. The messages were sent through business associates of the bin Laden family’s vast financial empire as well as through some of the al Qaeda leader’s closest relatives, a number of whom were receptive to opening a secret dialogue to restrain and contain their terrorist kinsman, whom they viewed as a blot on their name. (To be sure, other relatives were openly hostile to the American entreaties.)

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/09/06/7_things_you_didn_t_know_about_the_war_on_terror?page=0,1

Guess that was all ok though?

damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 9:39 PM

BlaxPac on May 7, 2012 at 9:39 PM

Same as all you people saying Obama said the war on terror was over, when in fact he never said it himself.

Hate it when it comes back to bite you in the ass, you bet ya

damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 9:40 PM

No, it was Bush with the Mission Accomplished Banner.

damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 9:23 PM

Well lets put this old and tired meme to bed once and for all shall we…

First: Bush did not ask for the banner, nor did he specify what would be written on the banner, nor did he place that banner on the aircraft carrier.

Second: The context of the “mission accomplished” banner was at that time in regard to the completion of the initial phase of the war plan which was to dominate the sky, the land and to take out Saddam’s command and control…it was not that the war on terror had been won and therefore the mission was accomplished.

Third and most important: Ever since 9-11 Bush had said and continued to say throughout his presidency that the war on terror would be a war that would take generations, it would go on for a long time…that’s why the war on terror is referred to as THE LONG WAR!!

So please damian, come up with something new instead of that old and buster BS lefty meme!

Liberty or Death on May 7, 2012 at 9:41 PM

He really does believe it. You can’t fault him, though. He’s been basement dwelling since mid 2009 eating cheeto’s and drinking sprite. Once a week he gets called upstairs to fill out his online application for continued unemployment, renewal of food card benefits and reaffirms his allegiance to the socialist party. And, he hands in his laundry to his mom.

.
Key West Reader on May 7, 2012 at 9:27 PM

Oh, so he/she/it is an OWSer!! That explains alot…

Liberty or Death on May 7, 2012 at 9:44 PM

Liberty or Death on May 7, 2012 at 9:41 PM

Do you make this stuff up as you go? The Banner Came from the White House!

The administration “said that the Navy called for it, and that was a fabrication because they then later acknowledged that it was the White House who created the banner,”

And again you make things up, the White House said the banner was for the ship’s mission accomplished in trying to spin it:

Asked if Bush had disavowed the idea that the mission was accomplished at that time, McClellan said: “The mission for the sailors and crew on board the ship was accomplished. There are some continuing objectives we have on the security front, on the reconstruction front, on the political front.”

Try learning before posting things you do not research on.

damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 9:46 PM

The banner was the backdrop aboard the USS Lincoln during Bush’s televised speech May 1, 2003, to proclaim the end of major combat in Iraq. It caused controversy in the months that followed when violence in Iraq spiraled.

The banner now sits in storage and will become part of the library’s collection. A decision on how or whether to display the red-white-and-blue banner hasn’t been made, said Alan Lowe, director of the George W. Bush Presidential Library and Museum.

Oh yeah, he had nothing to do with that banner… And also he said major military was done in Iraq… LOL Far from it.

Spin so much you must be dizzy

damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 9:47 PM

A spokesman for Bush, David Sherzer, declined to comment, referring questions about the banner to Lowe. In an interview this month with NBC’s Matt Lauer, Bush said about displaying the banner, “No question it was a mistake.”

You are wrong, face it!

damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 9:49 PM

Same as all you people saying Obama said the war on terror was over, when in fact he never said it himself.
 
damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 9:40 PM

 
Flag on the play: OBL rule. All or none.
 

Hate it when it comes back to bite you in the ass, you bet ya

rogerb on May 7, 2012 at 9:51 PM

Bush! Bush! Bush! It’s Bush’s Fault! Bush did it too! Bush! Bush! Bush!

BDS — there is no known cure.

farsighted on May 7, 2012 at 9:51 PM

Key West Reader on May 7, 2012 at 9:34 PM

Your first link to the 5 Iranian officials, NRO calling them terrorist does not make them terrorist. Iran’s Revolutionary Guard are not considered terrorist, even by the US government.
Again Taliban is much different than AQ and more complicated, if you can’t differentiate between the two than I can’t help you.
Your last link is irrelevant, cause we never negotiated with the people who attacked us on 911.

Salahuddin on May 7, 2012 at 9:51 PM

I am forever cursed.

Every time I see a picture of OBL, one word comes to mind:

“Bert”

BobMbx on May 7, 2012 at 9:52 PM

The Long War (also named the Thirteen or Fifteen Years’ War) took place from 1591 or 1593 to 1606 and was a border conflict between the Habsburg Monarchy and the Ottoman Empire over Balkan territories

damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 9:54 PM

to proclaim the end of major combat in Iraq

damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 9:47 PM

You obviously didn’t read #3 in my post…like I said taken in context the banner was stating that the initial war plan (e.g., end of major combat) had been completed, therefore mission accomplished. The banner did not refer to the overall war on terror as being “mission accomplished”…so thanks for proving my point!

As for spinning…the only spinning I can imagine is your head…it’s spinning from all the BS lefty talking points you espouse because it’s all you know and you have no critical thinking abilities on your own…so when someone throws logic and truth your way your poor lefty head just spins and spins…

Liberty or Death on May 7, 2012 at 9:56 PM

The Long War (also named the Thirteen or Fifteen Years’ War) took place from 1591 or 1593 to 1606 and was a border conflict between the Habsburg Monarchy and the Ottoman Empire over Balkan territories

damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 9:54 PM

The current war on terror is also called THE LONG WAR…but thanks for the history lesson!

Liberty or Death on May 7, 2012 at 9:58 PM

Same as all you people saying Obama said the war on terror was over, when in fact he never said it himself.

All you people? Who’s “You People”?

Hate it when it comes back to bite you in the ass, you bet ya

damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 9:40 PM

I sure would…IF you can ever find a post that says I wrote just that, by all means, repost it!

BlaxPac on May 7, 2012 at 9:59 PM

Liberty or Death on May 7, 2012 at 9:56 PM

I already provided information that in fact the banner came from the White House, and at first they lied about it. Then backed up and admitted it came from them.

The Long War was not given to the War on Terror.

So points one and two alone are lies on your behalf. You just think people do not read and investigate things on their own, and take others word for it.

They later said it was for the mission of major combat, that was not until AFTER they got nailed with their pants down they spun it.

Why can’t you just admit it, even Bush that crook admitted it.

damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 10:00 PM

Liberty or Death on May 7, 2012 at 9:58 PM

No it is not:

The War on Terror (also known as the Global War on Terror or the War on Terrorism) is a term commonly applied to an international military campaign led by the United States and the United Kingdom with the support of other NATO as well as non-NATO countries. Originally, the campaign was waged against al-Qaeda and other militant organizations with the purpose of eliminating them.[1]

Where is the long war in that?

Try googleing it, only ONE link comes up with that, it is another right wing fantasy.

damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 10:02 PM

Liberty or Death on May 7, 2012 at 9:58 PM

Instead of posting talking points from the right, try and do some research on your own, you will be amazed at how wrong the right is, and how they spin everything to meet their political agenda.

damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 10:04 PM

We do not negotiate with terrorist. Taliban is much more different situation and you know it.

Salahuddin on May 7, 2012 at 9:25 PM

So Obama’s regime is negotiating with the taliban because they are not terrorists ?

burrata on May 7, 2012 at 10:07 PM

Try learning before posting things you do not research on.

damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 9:46 PM

Once again, and I’ll try to use little words so you’ll understand…when taken in context the “mission accomplished” banner referred to the end of the initial war plan/phase which was to control the skies and the ground thus ending the “major combat” phase of the war…just as you yourself posted in your comment here:

to proclaim the end of major combat in Iraq

damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 9:47 PM

Bottom line is the banner never referred to the end of the war on terror and you know it!

As for the banner coming from the whitehouse, do you believe that every banner coming from the whitehouse has to be approved by the prez first? Show me proof it was Bush that came up with the slogan, that it was Bush’s idea that the banner should be used, or that the banner in question referred to the overall war on terror as being “mission accomplished.”

Liberty or Death on May 7, 2012 at 10:09 PM

burrata on May 7, 2012 at 10:07 PM

They are not all terrorists. According to the State department, the Taliban are not classified as terrorists.

damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 10:09 PM

In 2007, the Bush administration released a Taliban leader named Mullah Zakir to Afghan custody. Unlike these five, he was assessed by our military as only “medium risk” of returning to the fight. They were wrong. Today, Zakir is leading Taliban forces fighting U.S. Marines in Helmand province, and according to former intelligence officials I spoke with, he has provided the Taliban with an exponential increase in combat prowess.

SO it was ok for Bush to help the “Terrorists”?

damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 10:12 PM

Liberty or Death on May 7, 2012 at 10:09 PM

Give me a break, the buck stops with the President, it is HIS staff. Of course he can not approve everything, but his staff hat he is in direct control of does.

Bush said:

Admiral Kelly, Captain Card, officers and sailors of the USS Abraham Lincoln, my fellow Americans: Major combat operations in Iraq have ended. In the Battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed. And now our coalition is engaged in securing and reconstructing that country.

He did not say one phase or anything like that in his speech, spin it all you want, they didnt say it was for anything less until after the crap hit the fan.

And you know it! Admit it. I just posted what he said. YOU ARE WRONG.

damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 10:15 PM

Try googleing it, only ONE link comes up with that, it is another right wing fantasy.
 
damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 10:02 PM

 
Yikes. I don’t care about the phrase. I won’t argue about it. But this is getting bizarre.
 
Let me google “long war” for you:
 
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=%22long+war%22
 
It’s the second result. The one that says “War on Terror.” You don’t even have to click into it. It says it right there on the Google results page. If you do click you’ll see the footnotes.
 
Even more bizarre, you would’ve had to scroll past it when you googled long+war for your 9:54pm wikipedia copy and paste post:
 

The Long War (also named the Thirteen or Fifteen Years’ War) took place from 1591 or 1593 to 1606 and was a border conflict between the Habsburg Monarchy and the Ottoman Empire over Balkan territories
 
damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 9:54 PM

 
Wow.

rogerb on May 7, 2012 at 10:19 PM

Try googleing it, only ONE link comes up with that, it is another right wing fantasy.

damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 10:02 PM

Actually if you look at the history of our conflicts with Islam dating back to the Barbary Pirates I would consider the war on terror as THE LONG WAR and I am by no means the only one that refers to the war on terror as THE LONG WAR.

So what you are saying is because those of you on the left don’t refer to the war on terror as the long war means everyone else can’t refer to it as the long war? Oh, that’s right, now I understand…those on the left don’t believe there is a war on terror…it’s just another right wing fantasy…my bad!

Instead of posting talking points from the right, try and do some research on your own, you will be amazed at how wrong the right is, and how they spin everything to meet their political agenda.

damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 10:04 PM

LMAO…really…you’re going to go there? Sorry damian, the left are the spin masters…we on the right cannot hold a candle to the left when it comes to spin…you lefties are the true spin artists…always have been and always will be! The only spn those of us on the right use is to spin lefties back to reality and the truth…something which the left can’t handle!

Liberty or Death on May 7, 2012 at 10:20 PM

rogerb on May 7, 2012 at 10:19 PM

A web site called the long war journal is not meaning that the war on terror is the long war.

If that was the case, google would have thousands of references to it, which it does not. Admit your wrong, stop lieing.

damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 10:21 PM

Liberty or Death on May 7, 2012 at 10:20 PM

You must be dizzy

damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 10:22 PM

He did not say one phase or anything like that in his speech, spin it all you want, they didnt say it was for anything less until after the crap hit the fan.

And you know it! Admit it. I just posted what he said. YOU ARE WRONG.

damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 10:15 PM

I will admit no such thing. My father served in the military for 27 years, he was in the latter part of WWII, Korea and then Vietnam. Major combat operations refers to just that, major combat operations as lined out by the generals as to what goals they want to achieve in a major combat operation…as for the “crap hitting the fan” you speak of was an insurgency and not major combat operations as outlined in the initial phase of the Iraq invasion…therefore you are not comparing the same thing…the FACT of the matter and what we were discussing was the context of the “mission accomplished” banner…it was referring to major combat mission outlined in the initial Iraq invasion plan.

It’s the second result. The one that says “War on Terror.” You don’t even have to click into it. It says it right there on the Google results page. If you do click you’ll see the footnotes.

Even more bizarre, you would’ve had to scroll past it when you googled long+war for your 9:54pm wikipedia copy and paste post:

The Long War (also named the Thirteen or Fifteen Years’ War) took place from 1591 or 1593 to 1606 and was a border conflict between the Habsburg Monarchy and the Ottoman Empire over Balkan territories

damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 9:54 PM

Wow.

rogerb on May 7, 2012 at 10:19 PM

damian just doesn’t get it does he…wow is right…thanks rogerb!

Liberty or Death on May 7, 2012 at 10:31 PM

Liberty or Death on May 7, 2012 at 10:31 PM

You are dense, My Father was in the Navy and he saw it for what it was at the time of the speech, nothing but a publicity stunt.

AND HE IS A REPUBLICAN!

You just can’t admit it was wrong, and pre-mature! Plain and SImple!

BUSH EVEN ADMITTED IT, and you can not!

damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 10:42 PM

A web site called the long war journal is not meaning that the war on terror is the long war.

If that was the case, google would have thousands of references to it, which it does not. Admit your wrong, stop lieing.

damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 10:21 PM

Ok, well with a quick google search I found other sites that refer to the war on terror as “THE LONG WAR.” See, it’s not just me or a single website that refers to the war on terror as “THE LONG WAR!”

http://www.thenation.com/article/160313/bin-laden-dead-will-long-war-terror-live

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/rethinking-the-long-war-on-terrorism/2011/06/24/AGxSTejH_story.html

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2020625

http://www2.starexponent.com/news/2012/feb/28/inadvertent-turning-point-long-war-against-terror-ar-1721482/

http://www.stratfor.com/weekly/afghanistan-and-long-war

Ok, now that I have refuted your “THE LONG WAR” is a right wing fantasy lets get back to the original topic and that is the lefts spinning the “mission accomplished” banner…you still haven’t proven to me it was what the left claims…a declaration by Bush that the war on terror was over…try and stay focused and not change the subject because you are losing the debate!

Liberty or Death on May 7, 2012 at 10:50 PM

The Long War Journal

I guess they need to rename it or something. Something along the lines of ignoring inane meaningless useless criticism.

farsighted on May 7, 2012 at 10:50 PM

I guess they need to rename it or something. Something along the lines of ignoring inane meaningless useless criticism.

farsighted on May 7, 2012 at 10:50 PM

That and I found at least five sites that refer to “THE LONG WAR”

I posted another comment with the links but I don’t see it, perhaps it went to moderation, but here are the links again…just for damian’s edification!

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2020625

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/rethinking-the-long-war-on-terrorism/2011/06/24/AGxSTejH_story.html

http://www.thenation.com/article/160313/bin-laden-dead-will-long-war-terror-live

http://www2.starexponent.com/news/2012/feb/28/inadvertent-turning-point-long-war-against-terror-ar-1721482/

http://www.stratfor.com/weekly/afghanistan-and-long-war

Liberty or Death on May 7, 2012 at 10:57 PM

I guess they need to rename it or something. Something along the lines of ignoring inane meaningless useless criticism.

farsighted on May 7, 2012 at 10:50 PM

Hehe…good one. I guess with all the links I listed damian took his ball and went home…

Liberty or Death on May 7, 2012 at 11:00 PM

Where’s the bomber now and how is he being interrogated?

Future headline: “Abbott Labs profits up 15% on sales of Ensure

eeyore on May 7, 2012 at 11:01 PM

Major combat operations in Iraq have ended. In the Battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed. And now our coalition is engaged in securing and reconstructing that country.

damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 10:15 PM

And what about that statement was incorrect?

malclave on May 7, 2012 at 11:11 PM

Future headline: “Abbott Labs profits up 15% on sales of Ensure“

eeyore on May 7, 2012 at 11:01 PM

LOL…good one!

Liberty or Death on May 7, 2012 at 11:11 PM

Revealed: CIA foils airplane bomb plot by Al Qaeda in Yemen timed to coincide with OBL anniversary

Perhaps the CIA is trying to make the case for more funding here, but this must be a false story. Recent history shows us that if this were true, Obama would be taking credit for it somehow.

RJL on May 7, 2012 at 11:12 PM

And what about that statement was incorrect?

malclave on May 7, 2012 at 11:11 PM

You’re absolutely right malclave…nothing incorrect in that statement…in fact it’s such a correct statement that it proved the point I was trying to make to damian about the “mission accomplished” banner…much to damian’s chagrin I’m sure!

Liberty or Death on May 7, 2012 at 11:15 PM

W, hismelf said it would be a long war, and it wasn’t just limited to AQ, and Osama Bin Laden, the war goes back as far as 1979;

http://www.blackfive.net/main/2012/05/ctc-whitewashing-iranal-qaeda-connections.html

narciso on May 7, 2012 at 11:36 PM

@damien1972: Unbelievable. I haven’t seen this much pure fail around here in a long, long time.
 

It’s the second result. The one that says “War on Terror.” You don’t even have to click into it. It says it right there on the Google results page. If you do click you’ll see the footnotes.
 

Even more bizarre, you would’ve had to scroll past it when you googled long+war for your 9:54pm wikipedia copy and paste post:
 
rogerb on May 7, 2012 at 10:19 PM

 
A web site called the long war journal is not meaning that the war on terror is the long war.
 
If that was the case, google would have thousands of references to it, which it does not. Admit your wrong, stop lieing.
 
damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 10:21 PM

 
Setting aside that “the long war journal” site is the first (1st) result, not the second (2nd) result, let’s just go with it. Because it keeps getting funnier.
 

The War on Terror (also known as the Global War on Terror or the War on Terrorism) is a term commonly applied to an international military campaign led by the United States and the United Kingdom with the support of other NATO as well as non-NATO countries. Originally, the campaign was waged against al-Qaeda and other militant organizations with the purpose of eliminating them.[1]
 
Where is the long war in that?
 
Try googleing it, only ONE link comes up with that, it is another right wing fantasy.
 
damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 10:02 PM

 
You copied and pasted from wikipedia. All of that in italics is your uncredited grab.
 
You copied and pasted from the very link that proves (since you’re trusting wikipedia already) that “The Long War” is one of its names.
 
Go down about six paragraphs from where you copied those words.
 
***Hint***: Look for the words “The Long War” underneath the text you copied at 10:02pm. It will be under “Terminology”, and it will look like this:
 
“The Long War”
 
It’s possible that it’s also spelled:
 
“The Long War”
 

Try googleing it, only ONE link comes up with that, it is another right wing fantasy.

 
That is absolutely hilarious. And from the link you chose to cite. You are awesome. Ever heard of a petard? No googling, btw. Heck, I bet only ONE link comes up. Ha, nah, just kidding.
 
I’ve got to admit, though, you made my night. Good for you. That level of internet awesomeness is fairly rare around here. Usually the folks just flee and let the thread die when they can’t touch bottom anymore. Good for you. Seriously. I’m rarely impressed around here these days, and you definitely made an impression. Good for you for whatever that was. Besides funny, I mean.
 

I own 2 companies and have alomst 100 people working for me.
 
damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 9:30 PM

 
Wow. 100 people, huh?

rogerb on May 7, 2012 at 11:55 PM

Usually the folks just flee and let the thread die when they can’t touch bottom anymore. Good for you.
 
rogerb on May 7, 2012 at 11:55 PM

 
Whoopsies.
 

damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 10:42 PM

 
Looks like I spoke too soon.

rogerb on May 7, 2012 at 11:59 PM

More Americans died under Bush than any other president in History.

Fact.

And there was Never a Damian1966 idiot.

damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 6:11 PM

You are an idiot.

1812
Civil War.
Mexican-American
World War I
World War II
Korean
Vietnam

ALL with more deaths.

You are an idiot.

cane_loader on May 8, 2012 at 12:20 AM

More Americans died under Bush than any other president in History.
Fact.
And there was Never a Damian1966 idiot.
damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 6:11 PM

hey liar, more active duty military died under 8 years of bj Clinton than the first ten years of the iraq war.

now jog off moron.

tom daschle concerned on May 8, 2012 at 12:27 AM

I can not find any quote of him in fact saying this, another right wing lie?

damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 9:25 PM

he just had his lackeys say it for him, plausible deniability and all.
Don’t forget that his favorite movie is the Godfather. He insulates himself quite well.

Rio Linda Refugee on May 8, 2012 at 12:28 AM

More Americans died under Bush than any other president in History.

Fact.

And there was Never a Damian1966 idiot.

damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 6:11 PM

I see that you are still fighting mental health, however you don’t seem to be making any progress. But bless your heart you are trying.

Rio Linda Refugee on May 8, 2012 at 12:30 AM

cane_loader on May 8, 2012 at 12:20 AM

Heh, awesome! I wonder if our resident know-it-all damian realizes more people died in automobile accidents in the US in one year than all of the US soldiers that died in the entire Vietnam war.

Not to minimize the loss of one brave American soldier the fact is in almost 11 years of “The long war” (that would be the war on terror damian) we have lost significantly less US soldiers than we did in the entire Vietnam war…damian just doesn’t like facts that don’t support his partisan ideology…and damian says I spin the facts…one again it is the left that are the spin masters!

Liberty or Death on May 8, 2012 at 12:41 AM

rogerb on May 7, 2012 at 11:55 PM

Nice comment rogerb, you’d think damian would be tired of the truth smack downs he’s been getting on this thread…a smack down the likes I haven’t seen in a while…he/she must be made by Timex…he/she takes a licking but keeps on digging!

Liberty or Death on May 8, 2012 at 12:47 AM

I’m exhausted.

2Tru2Tru on May 8, 2012 at 12:57 AM

I own 2 companies and have alomst 100 people working for me.

damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 9:30 PM

Yeah, I read about you in Psychiatry Today. One company trades in ladybugs and the other in butterflies. Those almost one-hundred people are wandering the grounds for you waving nets you made out of your own hair because you can’t get out of the straitjacket to collect the insects yourself which you have convinced them will allow you all to fly away over the walls.

cane_loader on May 8, 2012 at 3:06 AM

Well Mr. Obama which is it?

Last Week: No credible threat of terrorism with the looming victory party Obama was throwing to highlight his work with SEAL Team Six or something. Senior State Dept. Official declared the war on terrorism is over (make no mistake this was a planned leak).

This Week: CIA uncovers a bomb plot (which was known last week too) and Hillary Clinton declares that terrorism is still a credible threat.

So, which is it? I think the administration is mixing politics in reality.

The reality is that terrorism is still very much a threat and America has enemies in this world.

The politics is the theme that super tough Obama (a combination of Chuck Norris, Arnold Schwarzenegger, and Sylvester Stallone) high-lined into Pakistan as the leader of SEAL Team Six and personally gave the kill shot that “got” OBL thus making the world super safe and the sole reason why we should give him a second term.

Happy Nomad on May 8, 2012 at 7:08 AM

I can’t help wondering if these reports are little more than another distraction for the campaign of the Emperor Zero. Good work stopping the bomber. If there are more get them too.

dogsoldier on May 8, 2012 at 10:29 AM

The politics is the theme that super tough Obama (a combination of Chuck Norris, Arnold Schwarzenegger, and Sylvester Stallone) high-lined into Pakistan as the leader of SEAL Team Six and personally gave the kill shot that “got” OBL thus making the world super safe and the sole reason why we should give him a second term.

Happy Nomad on May 8, 2012 at 7:08 AM

Yeah it sure does seem that the releases of these bits of information are politically orchestrated to keep the economy and the job situation out of the headlines.

But, it isn’t going to work. The misery of the economy is like the pain of a cavity in ones back tooth. The pain is acute and relentless.

dogsoldier on May 8, 2012 at 10:33 AM

a little off topic but don’t you think obama and osama make perfect “mad magazine” chracters?

losarkos on May 8, 2012 at 11:17 AM

t has been proven that “enhanced” techniques has also supplied bad intel and lies to stop the torture.

This is why I am not too sure about it, also we have tortured people that were not guilty of anything, and were not terrorists either.

That makes it highly suspect.

damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 5:56 PM

A little proof, damien…or you’re still just mouthing the party line (and lying like a cheap rug).

Solaratov on May 8, 2012 at 12:07 PM

More Americans died under Bush than any other president in History.

Fact.

And there was Never a Damian1966 idiot.

damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 6:11 PM

FACT: More than TWICE AS MANY Americans have died in Afghanistan under obama’s rule than did while Bush was president. AND IN HALF THE TIME!

ps: so, there’s only the damian1967 idiot? Small favors.

Solaratov on May 8, 2012 at 12:15 PM

It has yet to be proven that any of the torture has produced anything valueable.

damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 6:38 PM

It has yet to be proven that you have any idea of what you’re talking about.
IOW: You’re a liar. Or stupid. Or both. Take your pick.

Solaratov on May 8, 2012 at 12:21 PM

The state department does NOT list the Taliban as terrorist. This war is NOT against the Taliban.

Fox news reported,
Biden Does It Again: ‘The Taliban Is Not Our Enemy’
http://nation.foxnews.com/joe-biden/2011/12/20/biden-does-it-again-taliban-not-our-enemy

The Daily Mail reported,
‘The Taliban are not an enemy of the U.S. and should not be talked about in such terms, Joe Biden has claimed.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2076564/Taliban-enemy-says-Joe-Biden-US-negotiate-deal-end-Afghanistan-war.html

In an interview with Newsweek, Mr Biden warned against labelling the Taliban as an enemy.
He said:
‘That’s critical. There is not a single statement that the president has ever made in any of our policy assertions that the Taliban is our enemy because it threatens U.S. interests.’

Mr Biden’s comments came just before senior U.S. officials prepared to negotiate a peace deal with Taliban militants.

So when the last and current administration officials say the war is not about defeating the Taliban are you guys just going to continue to ignore them?

The Taliban tried to hand Bin Laden over to the U.S. dozens of times before and after 9/11. According to recently declassified U.S. State Department documents, and many government officials such as the CIA station chief in Pakistan at the time of 9/11, Robert Grenier, as well as several MSM news stories, The Taliban had killed Bin Laden’s body Guards and arrested Bin Laden before 9/11. http://ipsnews.net/Africa/nota.asp?idnews=50300

They even offered to pay for the U.S. to conduct a missile strike on the prisoner location of Bin laden before 9/11.

In 1999, the Taliban sent a group of 10 officers to replace Bin Laden’s own bodyguards, touching off an exchange of gunfire, according to a New York Times story of Mar. 4, 1999. Three days later, bodyguards working for Taliban intelligence and the Foreign Affairs Ministry personnel took control of Bin Laden’s compound near Kandahar and took away his satellite telephone, according to the U.S. and Taliban sources cited by the Times. http://www.nytimes.com/1999/03/04/world/terror-suspect-said-to-anger-afghan-hosts.html

Taliban official Abdul Hakeem Mujahid, who was then in the Taliban Embassy in Pakistan, confirmed that the 10 Taliban bodyguards had been provided to bin Laden to “supervise him and observe that he will not contact any foreigner or use any communication system in Afghanistan,” according to the Times story. The Taliban was working with the U.S. so they would take Bin Laden off their hands.

Taliban Foreign Minister Wakil Ahmed Muttawakil says in the meeting, “You can have him whenever the Americans are ready. Name us a country and we will extradite him.” Robert Grenier, the CIA station chief in Pakistan at the time of 9/11, confirmed that such proposals had been made to US officials. But a “political decision” was made by US officials not to continue the negotiations.

About 20 more meetings on giving up Bin Laden took place up until 9/11, all fruitless. [Washington Post, 10/29/2001]

CIA station Chief Robert Grenier, said about the meetings; “They were saying, ‘Do something to help us give him up.’… I have no doubts they wanted to get rid of him. He was a pain in the neck.” The Taliban also proposed to hold bin Laden, who was at this time a prisoner, in one location long enough for the US to locate and kill him. The Taliban became so frustrated that they even offered to pay for the missile strike on Bin Laden. However, this offer was also refused by US officials. [Intelligence Newsletter, 4/19/2001] http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=rahmatullah_hashimi

The pressure on bin Laden by the Taliban in 1999 up to 9/11 also extended to threats to eliminate al Qaeda’s training camps in Afghanistan. An e-mail from two leading Arab jihadists in Afghanistan to Bin Laden in July 1999, later found on a laptop previously belonging to al Qaeda in and purchased by the Wall Street Journal, referred to “problems between you and the Leader of the Faithful (Mullah Omar) ” as a “crisis”.

The e-mail, published in an article by Alan Cullison in the September 2004 issue of The Atlantic, said, “Talk about closing down the camps has spread.” The message even suggested that the al Qaeda jihadists feared the Taliban regime could go so far as to “kick them out” of Afghanistan. http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2004/09/inside-al-qaeda-rsquo-s-hard-drive/3428/

After having Bin Laden arrested and his bodyguards killed, Mullah Omar, the Taliban leader, entered a phone conversation between a State Department official and one of his aides. The Taliban leader said he was “open to dialogue” with the United States and according to the State Department cable reporting the conversation. Mullah Omar, the Taliban leader, asked the U.S. for help in eliminating his Bin laden problem and even gave the coordinates to the U.S. for a missile strike. The Taliban had even offered to pay for the missile strike. http://www.villagevoice.com/2001-06-12/news/the-accidental-operative/1/

All the above was BEFORE 9/11!

September 16, 2001: Taliban Said to Agree to All US Demands

A meeting takes place between Taliban and US government representatives in the city of Quetta, Pakistan. Afghan-American businessman Kabir Mohabbat serves as a middleman. Mohabbat explains that the Taliban offered to hand over bin Laden, extradite foreign members of al-Qaeda who are wanted in their home countries, and shut down bin Laden’s bases and camps. However, some days later he is told the US position has changed and the Taliban must surrender or be killed. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2004-06-05/taliban-told-us-it-would-give-up-osama-report/1987480

Later in the month, the Taliban again agrees to hand over bin Laden unconditionally, but the US replies that “the train had moved.” [CBS News, 9/25/2001 http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-500164_162-312836.html

"President George Bush rejected as "non-negotiable" an offer by the Taliban to discuss turning over Osama bin Laden" [Guardian 10/2001] http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/oct/14/afghanistan.terrorism5

JustTheFacts on May 8, 2012 at 12:29 PM

Are you now saying the US should negotiate with terrorists? I dont think so.

damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 8:47 PM

Then, why is pResident Pull-Ups negotiating with the taliban? Even going so far as to pay for their office space in Kuwait?
YOUR pResident is letting you down, damian1967idiot.

Solaratov on May 8, 2012 at 12:32 PM

Funny guy you are.

I have NEVER taken any government pay outs. I own 2 companies and have alomst 100 people working for me.

And I have donated to Republicans and Democrats alike, it all depends on who best fits my beliefs.

So go blow your smoke somewhere else rather than assuming you know who or what I am.

damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 9:30 PM

You keep making up those fantasies, damian1967idiot…and your mommy won’t bring you down a HotPocket at snack time.
IOW: Nobody believes you.

Solaratov on May 8, 2012 at 12:45 PM

Liberty or Death on May 7, 2012 at 10:09 PM

Your comments are embarrassing. The “Mission Accomplishment” moment was the largest, most orchestrated political photo-op of all time!! If you do not think every camera angle, and minute detail wasn’t planned out, you have got to be the most brain-washed person in the world. Thousands of Americans died in Iraq after Bush spiked the football that day. It may have been Bush’s signature moment of incompetence. Please have the intellectual honesty to understand what happened that day. Rewriting history so your brain can live in a simple black and white world is not the right way to go through life.

ZippyZ on May 8, 2012 at 12:54 PM

Oh yeah, he had nothing to do with that banner… And also he said major military was done in Iraq… LOL Far from it.

Spin so much you must be dizzy

damian1967 on May 7, 2012 at 9:47 PM

Only a leftist/democRAT would find it LOL funny that combat intensified and more American troops were killed.
But then, dead Americans don’t bother your sort, do they? Not as long as they serve to advance your narrative.

Solaratov on May 8, 2012 at 12:59 PM

Well well:

In a stunning intelligence coup, a dangerous al Qaeda bomb cell in Yemen was successfully infiltrated by an inside source who secretly worked for the CIA and several other intelligence agencies, authorities revealed to ABC News.

No Enhanced Interogations used here.

damian1967 on May 8, 2012 at 1:28 PM

Solaratov on May 8, 2012 at 12:59 PM

Dont even try to spin this as I do not care about American lives, thats BS.

I think every life is valueable, and I respect the men and women in our troops more than you could possibly imagine.

I was trashing what Bush said, not the lives that were lost.

How dare you even try to project / spin my intentions and the way I feel.

damian1967 on May 8, 2012 at 1:31 PM

Solaratov on May 8, 2012 at 12:32 PM

But it was OK when Bush released taliban members that went back on the field and fought and killed Americans?

It was ok when Bush negotiated with Al Queda?

Ok, HYPOCRITE

damian1967 on May 8, 2012 at 1:33 PM

So, you do – evidently – find it LOL funny that combat intensified in Iraq and Americans were killed.
Well, as long as it makes you leftists happy and advances your agenda, it’s all good, isn’t it.

Solaratov on May 8, 2012 at 1:34 PM

damian1967 on May 8, 2012 at 1:33 PM

Provide proof that Bush megotiated with al Queda, damian1967idiot.

Solaratov on May 8, 2012 at 1:35 PM

Solaratov on May 8, 2012 at 1:35 PM

The George W. Bush administration, like all of its predecessors, swore never to negotiate with terrorists. But it did undertake an extraordinary, and extraordinarily secret, outreach effort to open a line of communication with Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda’s senior leadership. It was an attempt to replicate how the United States tried to sustain a dialogue with the Soviet Union, even during the darkest days of the Cold War, when White House and Kremlin leaders described in private and in public a set of acceptable behaviors — and described with equal clarity the swift, vicious, even nuclear punishment for gross violations.

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/09/06/7_things_you_didn_t_know_about_the_war_on_terror?page=0,1

damian1967 on May 8, 2012 at 1:39 PM

The Bush Junta has admitted that it will negotiate with Iraqi insurgents. This has caused some issues of language in an attempt to justify the new line. After all, Bush argued back in 2002 that “no nation can negotiate with terrorists. For there is no way to make peace with those whose only goal is death.”

http://www.anarkismo.net/newswire.php?story_id=828

damian1967 on May 8, 2012 at 1:44 PM

How dare you even try to project / spin my intentions and the way I feel.

damian1967 on May 8, 2012 at 1:31 PM

I dare because you have shown that you are an anti-American, leftist liar, who will support anyone or anything on the left that promises you a lifetime of free “stuff”.
I dare because you have shown – beyond a doubt – that American lives lost are nothing more than a way for you and your ilk to keep score and play a “one-up, gotcha game” whenever possible.
I dare because you take every opportunity to denigrate Americans, American military personnel, and American values.
I dare because you have shown yourself to be nothing more than a festering pustule from the dregs of American society who is as dedicated as your master to the destruction of everything that represents the American Way of Life.
I dare because I don’t like you or what you represent; and I don’t like the way that you take every opportunity to plant your lips firmly between the butt-cheeks of you idol and savior, obama.
I dare, because – frankly – you disgust me.

Solaratov on May 8, 2012 at 1:45 PM

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