Quotes of the day

posted at 10:44 pm on May 7, 2012 by Allahpundit

President Barack Obama’s ongoing evolution on the issue of same-sex marriage has ceased being only a topic of friction between him and the gay-rights community, becoming, in the dawn of the general election campaign, an early test of political character…

“What I think you are seeing now is the extent to which the White House miscalculated that they can continue to give a non-answer on what is one of the major issues of our day,” said Richard Socarides, a former aide to President Bill Clinton and senior White House adviser on gay rights. “You can evolve for a time, but they have stretched this out 18 months now.”…

“The question is, is there a risk?” said one prominent Democratic Party official. “It is not nationwide [polling] we are talking about. We are talking about Virginia, North Carolina and other swing states, and we are talking about, would Karl Rove and his team stoop to using horribly grotesque and hateful tactics … and would that peel off 10,000 votes?”

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“He won here by such a narrow margin that almost anything could make the difference’’ said longtime Democratic strategist Gary Pearce, who is based in Raleigh. “I don’t blame him for being cautious. The country is also evolving, and he doesn’t want to get there too early.”…

A big reason the issue is tricky for Obama is that two of the constituencies that were pivotal to his 2008 victory – young voters and African-Americans — are at odds. While gay-rights advocates frame marriage as a civil-rights issue, many churchgoing African-Americans approach it in a religious context. In North Carolina for example, an Elon University Poll in February found that only 35 percent of voters ages 18 to 34 support a constitutional ban on gay marriage. Among black voters, the percentage supporting the ban jumped to 46 percent…

“It’s a gamble,’’ said Mileah Kroner, Elon University assistant professor of political science. “On one hand, him coming out for gay marriage could infuse the base and get young people excited, which could be in his favor. Then again, it could turn off older people, who he didn’t do particularly well with in the last election. Same with black voters, who tend to be evangelical. It’s a political calculation.’’

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“The walk-back was one of the weakest moments for the administration on this issue,” said one LGBT activist. “[Biden] was crystal clear on what he was saying. People in the gay community know what’s going on, but the fact that they’re not doing a more masterful job of explaining this is a little upsetting…

Another prominent gay supporter — who attended a fundraiser featuring a who’s-who of gay donors for Obama in Florida last month — said that while the president’s refusal to express his support for gay marriage stings the community, “they know the alternative is frightening.”

Fred Sainz, the vice president of communications for the Human Rights Campaign, agreed with that premise, saying the differences between Romney and Obama are “stark and cold.”

“There’s not an alternative. We view this president as a friend,” Sainz said.

***

Some leading gay and progressive donors are so angry over President Obama’s refusal to sign an executive order barring same sex discrimination by federal contractors that they are refusing to give any more money to the pro-Obama super PAC, a top gay fundraiser’s office tells me. In some cases, I’m told, big donations are being withheld.

Jonathan Lewis, the gay philanthropist and leading Democratic fundraiser, is one of many gay advocates who has been working behind the scenes to pressure Obama to change his mind. When Obama decided against the executive order last month, arguing that he would pursue a legislative solution instead, advocates were furious — such a solution will never pass Congress, the executive order has been a priority for advocates for years, and the move smacked of a political cave to conservatives who will not support Obama no matter what he does.

Now these and other donors are beginning to withold money from Priorities USA, the main pro-Obama super PAC, out of dismay over the president’s decision.

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[O]n this issue, the president isn’t leading. He’s following. And the gap by which he trails others in his party grows broader and sadder…

But right now, Obama could stir up a lot of counterproductive noise and passion with an emphatic position in favor of marriage equality. And while it’s the job of advocates to focus on one issue and amass their armies on a single front, it’s the job of those who govern to promote an array of concerns and serve multiple constituencies. To do any good in office, you have to be in office…

He brags about this progress, and has a right to. But he shouldn’t expect those of us who support marriage equality to find the sound of that trumpeting so very musical. It’s a tentative, incremental bleat. And it’s especially unsatisfying from a president who’s such a moving, hopeful symbol of this country’s imperfect and incomplete journey toward full respect for all its citizens, no matter their gender, race, creed or sexual orientation.

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Reporters fired dozens of barbed questions and taunts. “Contorted position! . . . Why did you guys send out statements to clarify? . . . What does the word ‘evolving’ mean? . . . Is he not evolved?. . . I want you to dissect the evolution.” A fly buzzed around the lectern. Carney let out a sigh.

NPR’s Mara Liasson asked whether Obama was “too clever by half,” essentially telling voters: “I’m getting ready to change my mind.”

“His views,” Carney maintained, “are crystal clear.”

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Via Mediaite.

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“His critics in the LGBT rights movement can also learn a thing or two about tolerance and patience. Lesson number one, can start with asking themselves the question: Are you holding the president to a tougher standard because deep down inside you don’t really trust him? And if the answer to that question is yes, perhaps the next question you should ask yourself is why?

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I look forward to the day when I no longer see that smirking picture of King Obama.

JPeterman on May 7, 2012 at 10:46 PM

It will be a sad day for Allahpundit

The Notorious G.O.P on May 7, 2012 at 11:34 PM

Bmore on May 7, 2012 at 11:31 PM

Last day of high school is Friday and he graduates a little over a week later. I’m clearing out what’s going to be his room and were working out few rules(kind of an informal lease agreement) for our soon-to-be college student.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 7, 2012 at 11:34 PM

How does the prez feel about relationships between his straw men and straw women (like Julia)?

AltTuning on May 7, 2012 at 11:35 PM

Carbon_Footprint and Towash’s favorite song?


Hello It’s Me – Todd Rundgren

the new aesthetic on May 7, 2012 at 11:35 PM

Are you holding the president to a tougher standard because deep down inside you don’t really trust him? And if the answer to that question is yes, perhaps the next question you should ask yourself is why?”

Wow. Live by identity politics, die by identity politics. Racist gays, eh? Mmm-kay. Good luck with that. And while you’re at it, why don’t you shout it from the rooftops? Of San Francisco. I’ll bring the popcorn.

smellthecoffee on May 7, 2012 at 11:35 PM

No kidding. I can’t figure out why AP always uses either that one or one of the the Mussolini poses that just make me want to reach out and slap….
Oh wait. That is why he uses them

LegendHasIt on May 7, 2012 at 11:26 PM

I just don’t understand why no one will use this picture.

JPeterman on May 7, 2012 at 11:37 PM

the new aesthetic on May 7, 2012 at 11:35 PM

great eyebrows

jaime on May 7, 2012 at 11:38 PM

Hello It’s Me – Todd Rundgren

the new aesthetic on May 7, 2012 at 11:35 PM

Very sentimental of y’all. So many good tunes came from Todd.

Bmore on May 7, 2012 at 11:38 PM

the new aesthetic on May 7, 2012 at 11:35 PM

This is MY theme song.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 7, 2012 at 11:40 PM

JPeterman on May 7, 2012 at 11:37 PM

LoLz..:)

Dire Straits on May 7, 2012 at 11:40 PM

all day Todd

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlbxLLP7_Mo

galtani on May 7, 2012 at 11:43 PM

Howdy folks.
What’s happenin’?

Hello, Bmore. Back to the ol’ homestead?

RedCrow on May 7, 2012 at 11:44 PM

Of the top of my head this one comes to mind. Its not very current and many people don’t care for it. I do.

Bmore on May 7, 2012 at 11:31 PM

Hope you are back from your trip or at least can post more. And I like “Changes”—sometimes. We need a big change in Nov.

arnold ziffel on May 7, 2012 at 11:45 PM

arnold ziffel on May 7, 2012 at 11:45 PM

Spawn and one cousin-of-Spawn will be doin’ their part.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 7, 2012 at 11:46 PM

Sometimes I don’t know what to feel. But I know this place feels like home. And y’all feel like family. Glad to be home and that feels good. ; )

Bmore on May 7, 2012 at 11:46 PM

Oops.
I thought you said, “all day Tom.”

RedCrow on May 7, 2012 at 11:47 PM

uhh….uhh…uh..uh…

-Axelrod

rubberneck on May 7, 2012 at 11:48 PM

Send you email to Ed at Hot Gas if you think Carbon_Footprint should be able to post again.

the new aesthetic on May 7, 2012 at 11:49 PM

Dana Milbank

Must not have received his copy of the playbook. : )

Bmore on May 7, 2012 at 11:49 PM

How does the prez feel about relationships between his straw men and straw women

AltTuning on May 7, 2012 at 11:35 PM

heh

katy on May 7, 2012 at 11:49 PM

Video 1, This dude Piers Morgan is gay. Axlerod is a homophobe.

Bmore on May 7, 2012 at 11:50 PM

Are you holding the president to a tougher standard because deep down inside you don’t really trust him? And if the answer to that question is yes, perhaps the next question you should ask yourself is why?”

He lies, hates me and my butt hurts.

arnold ziffel on May 7, 2012 at 11:50 PM

the new aesthetic will do just fine.

Bmore on May 7, 2012 at 11:51 PM

Towash on May 7, 2012 at 10:47 PM

Toad the Wet Sprocket. Don’t try that at home folks. What a strange band name. The lead singer owes a bit of a debt to Paul Simon in terms of vocal stylings, imho, and to Sinead O’Connor in using annoying facial tics to seem profound and artistic. Nice song, though, if you just listen to it.

smellthecoffee on May 7, 2012 at 11:51 PM

I just don’t understand why no one will use this picture.
JPeterman on May 7, 2012 at 11:37 PM

They don’t wish to suggest that he may be the Lord of the FLies

LegendHasIt on May 7, 2012 at 11:51 PM

Piers Morgan is a gay Catholic.

Bmore on May 7, 2012 at 11:52 PM

Gays give Axlerod indigestion.

Bmore on May 7, 2012 at 11:53 PM

bMORE thank you

the new aesthetic on May 7, 2012 at 11:53 PM

Glad to be home and that feels good. ; )

Bmore on May 7, 2012 at 11:46 PM

Well, I can tell you on the QT that there was quite the panic when the folks didn’t know where you were (thanks to Dire’s poor reading skills.)

Glad you survived the trip (if you are, indeed, home).

RedCrow on May 7, 2012 at 11:53 PM

Send you email to Ed at Hot Gas if you think Carbon_Footprint should be able to post again.

the new aesthetic on May 7, 2012 at 11:49 PM

Jeez Edith, a thirty day suspension should be plenty. Let’s mutiny, hold hostages or poop on somewhere.

arnold ziffel on May 7, 2012 at 11:54 PM

RedCrow on May 7, 2012 at 11:53 PM

RedCrow, I was able to get some reading in, it was just expensive to post, time and $ wise. ; )

Bmore on May 7, 2012 at 11:56 PM

him coming out for gay marriage could infuse the base and get young people excited, which could be in his favor.

His “base” must be idiots if this would “infuse” them. Anyone with half a brain has known he is pro-gay marriage and always has been, but has just been too politically chicken to admit it. “Infuse the base” — sheesh!

KS Rex on May 7, 2012 at 11:57 PM

arnold ziffel on May 7, 2012 at 11:50 PM

Rain..Nothing but Rain..:)

Dire Straits on May 7, 2012 at 11:57 PM

Send you email to Ed at Hot Gas if you think Carbon_Footprint should be able to post again.

the new aesthetic on May 7, 2012 at 11:49 PM

What was the topic that got him banned?

RedCrow on May 7, 2012 at 11:57 PM

[O]n this issue, the president isn’t leading. He’s following.

Yeah, he is. From behind!

Archivarix on May 7, 2012 at 11:59 PM

I just don’t understand why no one will use this picture.

JPeterman on May 7, 2012 at 11:37 PM

Mr. Peterman, that one is very good, except the one AllahP runs goes right to the heart of what a nasty, soulless punk he is.

arnold ziffel on May 7, 2012 at 11:59 PM

the new aesthetic on May 7, 2012 at 11:49 PM

On it!

annoyinglittletwerp on May 8, 2012 at 12:00 AM

Rain..Nothing but Rain..:)

Dire Straits on May 7, 2012 at 11:57 PM

I’m wise to your tricks. I ain’t had that much wine yet. No funny to see my brothers thrown in the truck.

arnold ziffel on May 8, 2012 at 12:01 AM

Yeah, he is. From behind!
Archivarix on May 7, 2012 at 11:59 PM

Only Larry Sinclair, Reggie Love and his college roomies know that for sure.

LegendHasIt on May 8, 2012 at 12:01 AM

Dire Straits on May 7, 2012 at 11:57 PM

Raise.

RedCrow on May 8, 2012 at 12:04 AM

DEFLECTION

cmsinaz on May 8, 2012 at 12:06 AM

But I know this place feels like home. And y’all feel like family. Glad to be home and that feels good. ; )

Bmore on May 7, 2012 at 11:46 PM

Well I got one for you, big fella.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hW4kswTH_0

arnold ziffel on May 8, 2012 at 12:06 AM

65 Love Affair.

JPeterman on May 8, 2012 at 12:07 AM

JPeterman on May 8, 2012 at 12:07 AM

good tune

cmsinaz on May 8, 2012 at 12:08 AM

I just don’t understand why no one will use this picture.

JPeterman on May 7, 2012 at 11:37 PM

Not sure if you’re still around, but…

Someone else (or it coulda been you) mentioned the Mussolini shots, ya know, with his chin way up in the air…?

How can it be that only the right sees anything wrong with those?

If any righty did that I’d probably dislike him/her solely on principle. (“Oh, everybody…look at the annointed one over there with his chin up and his eyes closed. Who’s that Napolean?”)

RedCrow on May 8, 2012 at 12:09 AM

Would y’all like to see what I wrote-sans my real name of course.
Good song, JP!

annoyinglittletwerp on May 8, 2012 at 12:09 AM

would Karl Rove and his team stoop to using horribly grotesque and hateful tactics … and would that peel off 10,000 votes?”

They only whine because the Rs beat them to the punch.

kim roy on May 8, 2012 at 12:10 AM

perhaps the next question you should ask yourself is why?”

ye ole race card once again…

buckle up folks…

cmsinaz on May 8, 2012 at 12:10 AM

JPeterman on May 8, 2012 at 12:07 AM

Lol.
I remember that one from riding in the back of my parents’ car as a kid. (Good Lord–I know the words!)

RedCrow on May 8, 2012 at 12:11 AM

annoyinglittletwerp on May 8, 2012 at 12:09 AM

If it will give me any inkling as to why he got chopped…

RedCrow on May 8, 2012 at 12:12 AM

arnold ziffel on May 8, 2012 at 12:01 AM

LoLz..:)

Dire Straits on May 8, 2012 at 12:12 AM

and THIS WEEKS Shiny Object from the Media whoredogs and the Re-Elect machine is……

Gay Marriage.

See the Occupy thingy kinda screwed with their message for this week so they trotted out the War on Gays theme.

Any guesses for next week?

PappyD61 on May 8, 2012 at 12:13 AM

Redcrow: I don’t know why he got chopped-but I just wrote an ‘interesting’ letter to Ed/AP in his defense.
Classic. Twerp.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 8, 2012 at 12:14 AM

Right Here Right Now.

They played this tune non-stop in Eastern Europe when it came out.

JPeterman on May 8, 2012 at 12:14 AM

Classic. Twerp.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 8, 2012 at 12:14 AM

Well…?
Lol.
Give us a juicy bit.

RedCrow on May 8, 2012 at 12:16 AM

PappyD61 on May 8, 2012 at 12:13 AM

mitt supporters and treason

cmsinaz on May 8, 2012 at 12:18 AM

PappyD61 on May 8, 2012 at 12:13 AM

gitmo trials..

cmsinaz on May 8, 2012 at 12:19 AM

RedCrow:

Gentlemen,
I am one of many that is requesting the return of carbon footprint.
We miss his rapier wit and conservative insight.
It seems incomprehensible to some of us that c.f. gets the hammer while ronbot trash like floating rock are allowed to continue on.
While I understand that image is important-political correctness should be allowed no foothold in a conservative blog.
Thank you,
******* ***********
*ALT*

annoyinglittletwerp on May 8, 2012 at 12:21 AM

JPeterman on May 8, 2012 at 12:14 AM

On my mp3.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 8, 2012 at 12:22 AM

Dire Straits QOTD song. Go West. Pretty gay. I had already used Frankie goes to Hollywood and the Reverend Horton Heat. This song is knew to me. It sucks.

Bmore on May 8, 2012 at 12:22 AM

Bmore on May 8, 2012 at 12:22 AM
New.
*runs*

annoyinglittletwerp on May 8, 2012 at 12:24 AM

annoyinglittletwerp on May 8, 2012 at 12:21 AM

Lol.

I know you dislike him–he’s no favorite of mine, either–but there’s WAY worse here than Float.

(Aside: Float was on a thread the other day. I was lurking, not commenting. He pulled the Ron Paul stuff in ONE comment. No one responded. He went away. Was kinda funny.)

Anyhow, I’d still like to know how he got the boot. Terrorist lawyer thread?

RedCrow on May 8, 2012 at 12:25 AM

Bmore on May 8, 2012 at 12:22 AM

heh

go with erasure next time…

cmsinaz on May 8, 2012 at 12:26 AM

annoyinglittletwerp on May 8, 2012 at 12:24 AM

how did little alt’s graduation go?

cmsinaz on May 8, 2012 at 12:26 AM

Uh-when was towash banned?

annoyinglittletwerp on May 7, 2012 at 11:06 PM

Minutes ago for writing: Liberals gonna Lib.

the new aesthetic on May 7, 2012 at 11:10 PM

If I won’t get someone else in trouble, what’s so bad about that? I don’t understand why that would be bannable.

kim roy on May 8, 2012 at 12:27 AM

Was gonna post a live one of this–tons–but they’re all over 10min. Alas.

I’ll dedicate it to Jay Carney. Enjoy.

RedCrow on May 8, 2012 at 12:27 AM

RedCrow on May 8, 2012 at 12:25 AM

He pulled that in the “Julia” QOTD thread last week, if you ignore it, it goes away. The nutball who posted that he thought “Breitbart had died of aids” is far worse.

JPeterman on May 8, 2012 at 12:28 AM

RedCrow on May 8, 2012 at 12:25 AM

Over in the Paul headline thread Dante was questioning golem_by_the_hudson’s citizenship.
typical ronbot BS.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 8, 2012 at 12:29 AM

how did little alt’s graduation go?

cmsinaz on May 8, 2012 at 12:26 AM

Not yet.
Next weekend.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 8, 2012 at 12:30 AM

RedCrow on May 8, 2012 at 12:25 AM

I was making a point.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 8, 2012 at 12:30 AM

annoyinglittletwerp on May 8, 2012 at 12:30 AM

gotcha…

cmsinaz on May 8, 2012 at 12:30 AM

BTW Guys and girls,

Anyone watch “The Five” today?

Greg Gutfeld was wearing a bow-tie today!

JPeterman on May 8, 2012 at 12:31 AM

JPeterman on May 8, 2012 at 12:31 AM

nice

cmsinaz on May 8, 2012 at 12:32 AM

Anyhow, I’d still like to know how he got the boot. Terrorist lawyer thread?

RedCrow on May 8, 2012 at 12:25 AM

The night the Norks launched their not ever ready missile he–CF on another thread used a rap song, the lyrics incl the a form of the n word. Way over react by the bosses, but that’ their call.

arnold ziffel on May 8, 2012 at 12:32 AM

heh

go with erasure next time…

cmsinaz on May 8, 2012 at 12:26 AM

Absolutely, what was I thinking? Must be rusty after the time away. Thanks kindly. ; )

Bmore on May 8, 2012 at 12:32 AM

Bmore on May 8, 2012 at 12:22 AM

The Pet Shop Boys..Mid 80′s memories!!..Try this out..:)

Dire Straits on May 8, 2012 at 12:32 AM

JPeterman on May 8, 2012 at 12:28 AM
annoyinglittletwerp on May 8, 2012 at 12:29 AM

LOL.
So many times, I want to post, “Don’t reply to that guy!! Ignore him!! Don’t do it!!!!!”

Of course, I don’t post that because it’s as bad as replying personally. And, almost always I end up disappointed. (“Ohhhhhh! Oh, no. That’s unfortunate.”)

I know it’s hard, but they wouldn’t hang out if no one gave them any. (Might even question their sanity, or their computer–which would be a huge plus, IMO.)

RedCrow on May 8, 2012 at 12:33 AM

Dire Straits on May 8, 2012 at 12:32 AM

Hey DS-
linked to peter gabriel- good tune by the way :)

go with domino dancing for the pet shop boys

cmsinaz on May 8, 2012 at 12:33 AM

arnold ziffel on May 8, 2012 at 12:32 AM

Ah–thanks.

(Weird thing to get banned for. I wonder if that’s in the spec.)

RedCrow on May 8, 2012 at 12:36 AM

This is a song about the 1%, and as soon as I heard it, I got into the Grateful Dead and reggae and never looked back.

John the Libertarian on May 8, 2012 at 12:37 AM

John the Libertarian on May 8, 2012 at 12:37 AM

one of my favorite DM tunes…

cmsinaz on May 8, 2012 at 12:39 AM

John the Libertarian on May 8, 2012 at 12:37 AM

saw them in the early 90s

cmsinaz on May 8, 2012 at 12:41 AM

The Pet Shop Boys..Mid 80′s memories!!..Try this out..:)

Dire Straits on May 8, 2012 at 12:32 AM

Good one! I should have gone with this. I’m rusty.

Bmore on May 8, 2012 at 12:41 AM

John the Libertarian on May 8, 2012 at 12:37 AM

My brother the dopehead naderite used to be a Deadhead. He saw the GD when they played @ what was then-known as the Tweeter Center.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 8, 2012 at 12:42 AM

ALT
Can I speak yet????…..;(

angrymike on May 8, 2012 at 12:42 AM

Say, guys…What if carbon footprint was a black person?

If I remember correctly, they’re allowed to say that verboten word when they like. Hmmm. (They should give him another chance, really.)

Probably some “term” or “condition” that forbids linking to “offensive material”. (I’m too lazy at the moment to check.)

RedCrow on May 8, 2012 at 12:43 AM

cmsinaz on May 8, 2012 at 12:33 AM

I hear you..Good to see you!!..:)

PS..Sometimes I feel we are living in this land!!..:)

Dire Straits on May 8, 2012 at 12:44 AM

annoyinglittletwerp on May 8, 2012 at 12:42 AM

ALT was it you who was commenting on Mark Harmon on the other thread, if so I have a story that’s funny and will make you jealous.

MontanaMmmm on May 8, 2012 at 12:44 AM

Well Bonus Nachos to all y’all rapscallions, vagabonds, and ne’er-do-wells.

Past my bedtime.

RedCrow on May 8, 2012 at 12:45 AM

ALT
Can I speak yet????…..;(

angrymike on May 8, 2012 at 12:42 AM

Men!
Continue. LoL
*sigh*

annoyinglittletwerp on May 8, 2012 at 12:45 AM

JPeterman on May 8, 2012 at 12:14 AM

Speaking of Europeans

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OznS7X9BOxs

galtani on May 8, 2012 at 12:46 AM

Good Night RedCrow. Sleep Well.

Bmore on May 8, 2012 at 12:46 AM

MontanaMmmm on May 8, 2012 at 12:44 AM
Twas me-and Aspies don’t get jealous.
*grin*

annoyinglittletwerp on May 8, 2012 at 12:46 AM

PS..Sometimes I feel we are living in this land!!..:)

Dire Straits on May 8, 2012 at 12:44 AM

Nice, I just converted it and put it on my iPod.

JPeterman on May 8, 2012 at 12:47 AM

John the Libertarian on May 8, 2012 at 12:37 AM

Two thumbs up!!..Hey you may see me tonight..:)

Dire Straits on May 8, 2012 at 12:47 AM

Dire Straits on May 8, 2012 at 12:44 AM

indeed

with a ship of fools

cmsinaz on May 8, 2012 at 12:48 AM

First!

I also ate some cheese not too long ago. Cheese is good for you.

Bishop on May 8, 2012 at 12:48 AM

RedCrow on May 8, 2012 at 12:45 AM

nite

cmsinaz on May 8, 2012 at 12:48 AM

indeed

with a ship of fools

cmsinaz on May 8, 2012 at 12:48 AM

I was just getting ready to post that song!
Creeeepy.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 8, 2012 at 12:49 AM

annoyinglittletwerp on May 8, 2012 at 12:49 AM

great minds ALT :)

cmsinaz on May 8, 2012 at 12:49 AM

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