UN wants the US to return Native American lands

posted at 2:01 pm on May 6, 2012 by Jazz Shaw

I can’t imagine how this plan could possibly produce anything but a stunning success, can you?

A United Nations investigator probing discrimination against Native Americans has called on the US government to return some of the land stolen from Indian tribes as a step toward combatting continuing and systemic racial discrimination.

James Anaya, the UN special rapporteur on the rights of indigenous peoples, said no member of the US Congress would meet him as he investigated the part played by the government in the considerable difficulties faced by Indian tribes.

The report goes on for paragraph after paragraph about proposed plans based on the concept of systemic racism against indigenous people, but it does also manage to touch on one issue which is very real.

Anaya visited an Oglala Sioux reservation where the per capita income is around $7,000 a year, less than one-sixth of the national average, and life expectancy is about 50 years.

The two Sioux reservations in South Dakota – Rosebud and Pine Ridge – have some of the country’s poorest living conditions, including mass unemployment and the highest suicide rate in the western hemisphere with an epidemic of teenagers killing themselves.

“You can see they’re in a somewhat precarious situation in terms of their basic existence and the stability of their communities given that precarious land tenure situation. It’s not like they have large fisheries as a resource base to sustain them. In basic economic terms it’s a very difficult situation. You have upwards of 70% unemployment on the reservation and all kinds of social ills accompanying that. Very tough conditions,” he said.

Conditions on many of the reservations are indeed horrible. There are some exceptions, of course, among some in the Northwest with ocean access and others with casinos, but many of the tribal lands are simply desolate pools of poverty. If there is anything to the questions being raised by the UN, though, it is likely to be found less in some sort of nebulous cure for any sort of endemic racism than in the technicalities of a court of law.

The United States has indeed made many treaties with Native Americans spanning three centuries. Some were honored, (at least in part) but many were either ignored or crafted in patently unfair ways. There are numerous examples, but one case in New York is fairly typical. A series of treaties between both the state of NY and the federal government with the tribes of the Iroquois Nation were repeatedly violated even though the federal courts weighed in on the side of the natives on more than one occasion. One of them assured the Oneida Indians possession of the lands west of the Hudson and north of the Mohawk rivers for “as long as the sun shall shine and the rivers shall flow.” If that’s the case, it’s pretty dark and dry in the Empire State these days.

Obviously we can’t have a serious conversation about giving all of the lands (i.e. most of the country) back and I doubt anyone is seriously fielding such an idea. But there may be cases where a valid legal case could result in some return of lands or other compensation which might provide some new opportunities and a chance for prosperity to people who are admittedly living in crushing poverty.


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We should give France back to the Cro-Magnons.

RickB on May 6, 2012 at 2:04 PM

Sure!

KOOLAID2 on May 6, 2012 at 2:04 PM

Libtards jumped the shark on this one. Lol, just lol.

Lord on May 6, 2012 at 2:05 PM

Liz warren seen smiling all the way to the casino.

VegasRick on May 6, 2012 at 2:05 PM

Adam and Eve are going to be rich!
Tax them on all of it!

KOOLAID2 on May 6, 2012 at 2:05 PM

I guess the British Isles need to be given back to the Picts and the Celts. Who came before them, I wonder? Is anyone going to give half of Turkey back to the Armenians?

totherightofthem on May 6, 2012 at 2:06 PM

Sure – give everything back to them, as long as they’ll pay for the improvements.

Drained Brain on May 6, 2012 at 2:06 PM

Let’s just wipe out humanity and give all land back to the earth mother. /

jhffmn on May 6, 2012 at 2:09 PM

Custer says…

WTF?

Electrongod on May 6, 2012 at 2:09 PM

Return Pakistan and Bangladesh to India.

burrata on May 6, 2012 at 2:11 PM

Lewis and Clark to have work visas..

Electrongod on May 6, 2012 at 2:11 PM

Best comment on this story the other day…
Ok. Let’s start with Manhattan.

txhsmom on May 6, 2012 at 2:11 PM

The C.S.A. rises.

The Casino States of America.

swamp_yankee on May 6, 2012 at 2:11 PM

Elizabeth Warren might get to be even richer.

Schadenfreude on May 6, 2012 at 2:13 PM

I’m sorry but when do people that fail and fail again have to start taking responsibility for their own plight? 7000 a year? Min. wage at 40 hours a week is nearly 15k.

CW on May 6, 2012 at 2:13 PM

Because that’s worked out so very well for Palestinian Arabs.

PerceptorII on May 6, 2012 at 2:13 PM

Alaska back to the Russians

Schadenfreude on May 6, 2012 at 2:13 PM

Give Mexico back to the Aztecs and Mayans. Send anyone with Spanish blood back to Spain.

RickB on May 6, 2012 at 2:13 PM

Give Ireland back to the Irish
Give Lappland back to the Lapps
Give China back to the Chinese
And give Yoko back to the Japs

Rio Linda Refugee on May 6, 2012 at 2:14 PM

R E S E T

Electrongod on May 6, 2012 at 2:14 PM

might provide some new opportunities and a chance for prosperity to people who are admittedly living in crushing poverty.

Sure. If they can’t make it in America over the past 100 years what makes you think anything will change?

CW on May 6, 2012 at 2:14 PM

James Anaya, the UN special rapporteur, appears to have been born in the US (Arizona) and was educated in New Mexico. He’s on the court of appeals of the Yavapai-Prescott Indian tribe and has represented “Native American” claims in US courts for decades.

Basically, he’s using his UN position to advocate a position he has long held. One of his big problems, however, will be deciding which land to give to which modern tribes, since the tribes invaded, warred with, and conquered each other in the centuries prior to European colonization and the expansion of the United States.

I suspect Team Obama knows it would be a major vote-loser to do anything about this UN report before November.

J.E. Dyer on May 6, 2012 at 2:14 PM

If any land is given back to the Indians, the first parcel should be the ground on which the UN is located.

Bigfoot on May 6, 2012 at 2:15 PM

Elizabeth Warren to sit on the redistribution board.

Schadenfreude on May 6, 2012 at 2:15 PM

How about the muslems give North Africa and the Middle East back to the original Christians.

Rebar on May 6, 2012 at 2:15 PM

Best comment on this story the other day…
Ok. Let’s start with Manhattan.

txhsmom on May 6, 2012 at 2:11 PM

Never Happen.

Can’t Hunt, eat fatty food with or without salt…and frankly have you *seen* the smelly natives of Zucotti Park?

BlaxPac on May 6, 2012 at 2:16 PM

As the song sez-I was “Born In The USA” so that makes me a”Native American”. But I’m not greedy-just give me enough land so I can start my own gambling casino.

MaiDee on May 6, 2012 at 2:16 PM

Make us

The Notorious G.O.P on May 6, 2012 at 2:17 PM

A series of treaties between both the state of NY and the federal government with the tribes of the Iroquois Nation were repeatedly violated even though the federal courts weighed in on the side of the natives on more than one occasion.

Why do liberals hate Native Americans?

Darth Executor on May 6, 2012 at 2:17 PM

The piece says that 56 million acres of land is being “held in trust” for the tribes–why not just deed the land over to them and be done with it?

M. Scott Eiland on May 6, 2012 at 2:17 PM

Claudia Rossett had it right when she said lets start by giving back that little patch of New York where the UN sites!

Warner Todd Huston on May 6, 2012 at 2:18 PM

But there may be cases where a valid legal case could result in some return of lands or other compensation which might provide some new opportunities and a chance for prosperity to people who are admittedly living in crushing poverty.

Sure because it worked so well when Robert Mugabe did this same thing in Zimbabwe took farms from whites and gave it to indigenous – they ended up with wide scale starvation. Jazz I find it difficult to believe you are so naive, and a native New Yorker.

Dr Evil on May 6, 2012 at 2:19 PM

The U.N. better do some studying.

Schadenfreude on May 6, 2012 at 2:21 PM

Alaska back to the Russians

Schadenfreude on May 6, 2012 at 2:13 PM

Speaking of the Russians, they should give their land back to the Yakuts, Chukchis, Buryats, Tatars, Samoyeds, etc.

Bigfoot on May 6, 2012 at 2:22 PM

Our failure to live up to treaties with NAs should be a matter of national shame. Obviously , all the lands stolen can not be given back. I’m not sure how they could be adequately compensated and doubt any arrangement could be reached which would be fair for both sides, having watched the push for black slavery compensation lie simmering beneath the surface and knowing full well the duplicity of its supporters. OTOH, if one follows patterns of natural NA tribal migration and resettlement in the U.S., it always was in response to geographical pressure from another stronger, more warlike tribe. So, someone is always stealing someone else’s land, not just the white eyed palefaced blue eyed debil bow tyin’ whitey boys. South central Los Angeles or Dearborn, MI might be examples.
This is not to say we shouldn’t try a lot harder with the NAs. Pine Ridge is an awful place.

a capella on May 6, 2012 at 2:22 PM

Don’t need to. I know some of the tribes have pooled casino money to start buying some back. When the Chinese foreclose on us and move in, the tribes will clean them out at the casinos and get it all back. Probably will win back Mahattan on a $24 bet.

michaelo on May 6, 2012 at 2:22 PM

“Turtle Bay” – is that little patch of New York where the UN sits!

I’m sure these extorting blue helmet rapists will jump right on that proposal.

locomotivebreath1901 on May 6, 2012 at 2:22 PM

Really?

Will the UN force all Islamic nations to give their territories back to the original inhabitants? Christians, Jews, pagans, others?

Why do we even have a UN anymore?

Private NGO’s do the refugee thing better.

Private NGO’s do a lot better with emergency medical care and health issues.

Save a lot of countries a lot of money better spent elsewhere if they did not have to maintain those lavish UN missions in New York.

Save a lot of nations, our own included, if we all didn’t have to shell out for all those lavish UN salaries and perks.

Yeah, give Manhattan back to the Indians.

Probably do a better job of managing it than the little Bloomberg guy does.

coldwarrior on May 6, 2012 at 2:23 PM

Hey, UN, GTFO!

Dandapani on May 6, 2012 at 2:23 PM

The UN “wants” us to return the land to the native Americans? Who cares what they want? What if WE want THEM to shut up and go away??

plumorchard on May 6, 2012 at 2:23 PM

If any land is given back to the Indians, the first parcel should be the ground on which the UN is located.

Bigfoot on May 6, 2012 at 2:15 PM

I think we all could live with that.

CW on May 6, 2012 at 2:24 PM

The High Plains for the High Checkbones!

Flange on May 6, 2012 at 2:25 PM

By this reasoning, everyone should move back to Africa and get out of all of the other occupied continents which origianlly had no human invaders.

The All Natives Back To Their Original Continent! Movement needs to start up and promote this “true justice”.

profitsbeard on May 6, 2012 at 2:27 PM

Give Ireland back to the Irish
Give Lappland back to the Lapps
Give China back to the Chinese
And give Yoko back to the Japs

Rio Linda Refugee on May 6, 2012 at 2:14 PM

lol, a “Radio Dinner” fan! Best National Lampoon album evah.

“Vishnu?” “I don’t know, Vishnu with you?”

Del Dolemonte on May 6, 2012 at 2:28 PM

Maybe it was mistake to give back France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Algeria, Tunisia after the WW2 — and Great Brittan should keep Egypt!

KenInIL on May 6, 2012 at 2:28 PM

How ’bout we get Uncle Sugar to stop trying to “help” American Indians first, before we try the UN’s idiotic solutions?

OhioCoastie on May 6, 2012 at 2:29 PM

Has there ever been a better example of the failures of being dependent on the federal government than Native American reservations?

cpaulus on May 6, 2012 at 2:30 PM

Native Americans, another government success story. /sarc.

southsideironworks on May 6, 2012 at 2:30 PM

Hey Jimmy, what’s your fee, 1/3? $$$$$$$$$$

diogenes on May 6, 2012 at 2:31 PM

Make us

The Notorious G.O.P on May 6, 2012 at 2:17 PM

But they will take away all of our funding. Oh wait.

//

CW on May 6, 2012 at 2:31 PM

It’s not my fault the Indians had inferior weapons.

SouthernGent on May 6, 2012 at 2:31 PM

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what about the inheritance tax not yet paid by them?

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Inheritance tax is around 40%. so basically after one generation 40% of the property, the land, is taxed and the next generation receives only 60%. if you have 9 generations in 200 years, that would be for the current generation 1% of the original property and 99% taken by the government.

So for those now stating this is different and these are native americans, well, under equal protection why do they keep their property and we ordinary citizens do not? They also enjoy all kind of hand outs from the government and they cannot have it both ways.

And why do we allow the government to steal 40% of our savings and estate each generation and that is actually savings based on labor of which 50% was taxed, social-securitied,medicaded,sales-taxed and what have you.

huntingmoose on May 6, 2012 at 2:32 PM

But even if the Indians got all this land back, what would they do with it? They would just squat on it, like they do now, and the poverty, and suicides would take place on the new land. For thousands of years the Indians had free reign over all of North America and what did they do in that time? Nothing. Hunted, fished, and made beaded trinkets when they weren’t killing each other or offering sacrifices to the gods. No progress in thousands of years. Nothing. Nil. Zilch. They do the same thing today. So why are they depressed?

How come they can’t work and pay taxes like everybody else? They are granted the same rights as everybody else, and then some.

keep the change on May 6, 2012 at 2:33 PM

If any land is given back to the Indians, the first parcel should be the ground on which the UN is located.

Bigfoot on May 6, 2012 at 2:15 PM

I think we all could live with that.

CW on May 6, 2012 at 2:24 PM

Actually, the Indians sold the land where the UN now sits to the evil (Democrat) Rockefellers. They make the Koch Brothers look like pikers.

Del Dolemonte on May 6, 2012 at 2:33 PM

Obama can give back Hawaii.

/

Christien on May 6, 2012 at 2:34 PM

I want the UN to return US land and vacate the premises.

FloatingRock on May 6, 2012 at 2:34 PM

Why does Canada get a pass?

BigAlSouth on May 6, 2012 at 2:36 PM

The UN can say whatever they want. Nobody elected them to office.
The UN is not a government.

How about Italy give back the Tyrolian provinces they stole from Austria?

crosspatch on May 6, 2012 at 2:37 PM

We should give France back to the Cro-Magnons.

RickB on May 6, 2012 at 2:04 PM

If you look at the Paris suburbs, you’ll see that the French are doing just that.

thuja on May 6, 2012 at 2:38 PM

Reminds me of Firesign Theater

DC: And what do you think they took?

CHANTING CHORUS: Oil from Canada! Gold from Mexico! Geese from their neighbor’s back yard! Boom, boom! Corn from the Indians! Tobacco from the Indians! Dakota from the Indians! New Jersey from the Indians! New Hampshire from the Indians! New England from the Indians! New Delhi from the Indians! …

BABE: Indonesia for the Indonesians!

Good Solid B-Plus on May 6, 2012 at 2:39 PM

Give Kenya back to the British

faraway on May 6, 2012 at 2:40 PM

You wonder who in the UN gave James Anaya, the UN special rapporteur on the rights of indigenous peoples, this assignment?

And when does a group of people become no longer indigenous? 10, 20, 50, 100, 500, 1,000, 10,000 years after they no longer are in control of the land?

And from all the Hollywood movies involving Indians that I remember, the Indian thought no one owned the land…it belonged to Mother Nature (or some other god)….

albill on May 6, 2012 at 2:40 PM

what’s next? return black people back to africa?

Sachiko on May 6, 2012 at 2:40 PM

Is this all just part of the overall Global Ruling class wanting to take down the U.S. and the serfish American Middle class getting too close to their rare air?

……naah, that would mean that the Ruling Class thinks really far ahead and plans generations out.

……never happen, sorry my bad.

PappyD61 on May 6, 2012 at 2:40 PM

Recently read an article in connection with Warren about how much Indian land was stolen by giving Indians deed to their property (only partial Indians) then giving them loans so they could then “reposes” it.

Giving land so to someone almost never works. Because unless they know how to make that land productive they will eventually lose it.

If we were in boom times perhaps you could make Indian land tax free where income were not taxed and incentives were available to move in companies and produce jobs. That is the only way I can think of to help these people and even then it would have to be jobs they could actually do.

Land alone is worthless. You also must have jobs.

Steveangell on May 6, 2012 at 2:43 PM

what’s next? return black people back to africa?

Sachiko on May 6, 2012 at 2:40 PM

NOPE…….Whitey goes back to Europe where they belong.

and Return the Americas to the pure and pristine Mayan/Aztec and Native American tribes where the Buffalo run free across the prairies and tribes sacrifice to their pagan gods.

Go back to Europe you Columbus peoples.

PappyD61 on May 6, 2012 at 2:43 PM

In the words of a past Eastern Band of the Cherokee nation chief who was in the audience of the Oprah show when a bunch of Native Americans were complaining about their mistreatment. “Get off your fat lazy ass and get a job, earn money, then you can buy the town and throw whitey out! Don’t come cryin’ to me, I’m laughing all the way to the bank in my Cadillac, because we got to work, manufactured goods and made something of ourselves. We didn’t sit around and expect the government to do something for us.” He was of course call an Uncle Tom.

flytier on May 6, 2012 at 2:43 PM

Let’s start with 760 United Nations Plaza, New York, New York.

Rip Ford on May 6, 2012 at 2:44 PM

I lived near and did business on three reservations for years. Here is the problem in a nutshell. They are given free housing, medical, etc. but have no private property rights. They maintain nothing because if they improve their home or ranch to much the tribal counsel can simply take it away from them. Their children can inherit nothing. So their homes simply sink into the ground. Yards become junk yards. They typically drive nice vehicles because they do own them. Just no real property.

For lack of a better work the reservation system put in place by FDR is nothing but a human zoo. It is despicable. It will only improve when they can own land and pass it on.

BullShooterAsInElk on May 6, 2012 at 2:44 PM

The United Nations……….another glorious Progressive idea.

Kind of like Wilson and his League of Nations and McCain’s League of Democracies.

Gotta love it.

PappyD61 on May 6, 2012 at 2:45 PM

Yes, Indian Reservations are a stunning example of the end result of Obama and the Democrats’ policies-total dependence on the government. See what Julia has to look forward to?

Let’s give Hawaii back to the Hawaiians and make it retroactive-Obama can’t be President.

Let’s give the UN headquarters back to the appropriate tribe.

It’s long past time for the US to stop paying anything to the UN. A small baby step in balancing the budget, but a step none-the-less.

talkingpoints on May 6, 2012 at 2:46 PM

Kind of like Wilson and his League of Nations and McCain’s League of Democracies.

Gotta love it.

PappyD61 on May 6, 2012 at 2:45 PM

League of Democracies is a good idea. It would cut out all of the tin pot dictatorships that get an equal vote in the UN GA. “One nation one vote” is a nice pie-on-the-sky ideal, but it doesn’t work in practice. You need to earn your right to be a player on the world stage.

Good Solid B-Plus on May 6, 2012 at 2:47 PM

……and really this is the legacy of another Progressive Democrat.

….Andrew Jackson.

He tore the Indians from the Southeast and violated treaty after treaty.

Andrew Jackson and Harry Truman, smile proud, your legacies live on.

PappyD61 on May 6, 2012 at 2:47 PM

Well, that link didn’t work. Try this:http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Logan+Act

Old Country Boy on May 6, 2012 at 2:48 PM

I lived near and did business on three reservations for years. Here is the problem in a nutshell. They are given free housing, medical, etc. but have no private property rights. They maintain nothing because if they improve their home or ranch to much the tribal counsel can simply take it away from them. Their children can inherit nothing. So their homes simply sink into the ground. Yards become junk yards. They typically drive nice vehicles because they do own them. Just no real property.

For lack of a better work the reservation system put in place by FDR is nothing but a human zoo. It is despicable. It will only improve when they can own land and pass it on.

BullShooterAsInElk on May 6, 2012 at 2:44 PM

It’s my understanding that Indians traditionally don’t recognize private property (of the real estate type). I don’t know if this reservation policy was set up by the government or the Indians.

talkingpoints on May 6, 2012 at 2:48 PM

DC: And what do you think they took?

CHANTING CHORUS: Oil from Canada! Gold from Mexico! Geese from their neighbor’s back yard! Boom, boom! Corn from the Indians! Tobacco from the Indians! Dakota from the Indians! New Jersey from the Indians! New Hampshire from the Indians! New England from the Indians! New Delhi from the Indians! …

BABE: Indonesia for the Indonesians!

Good Solid B-Plus on May 6, 2012 at 2:39 PM

Yes, and Veterans Day!

Rio Linda Refugee on May 6, 2012 at 2:51 PM

Return the Democrat party back to the KKK

faraway on May 6, 2012 at 2:51 PM

How about Italy give back the Tyrolian provinces they stole from Austria?

crosspatch on May 6, 2012 at 2:37 PM

That would be nice. After almost 100 years, some South Tyrolians still refuse to speak Italian.

It was all President Wilson’s fault, though. He ignored point 9 if his own 14 points, “A readjustment of the frontiers of Italy should be effected along clearly recognizable lines of nationality” and let Italy keep it all. Bless his heart.

Gelsomina on May 6, 2012 at 2:53 PM

Here’s a thought: let’s give the UN back to nonexistence–void, oblivion, nothing, naught, nowhere, nix, nullity, nonbeing, nonentity, crumb diddly–these words sum up its relevance.

stukinIL4now on May 6, 2012 at 2:53 PM

Get us out of the UN.

anotherJoe on May 6, 2012 at 2:54 PM

I agree with this completely.

Let us begin by returning a particular 40 story building on the East River.

Shaughnessy on May 6, 2012 at 2:54 PM

OK, but we’re going to need those beads, guns, and blankets back.

James on May 6, 2012 at 2:54 PM

It’s my understanding that Indians traditionally don’t recognize private property (of the real estate type).

talkingpoints on May 6, 2012 at 2:48 PM

Likely just another myth.

Carlos Rodriguez, Craig Galbraith, and Curt Stiles argue that, in many cases, historical American Indians had well developed systems of property rights:

In the past, most if not all North American indigenous peoples had a strong belief in individual property rights and ownership. Frederick Hodge (1910) noted that individual private ownership was “the norm” for North American tribes. Likewise, Julian Steward (1938, 253) asserted that among Native Americans communal property was limited, and Frances Densmore (1939) concluded that the Makah tribe in the Pacific Northwest had property rights similar to Europeans.’

http://benmuse.typepad.com/ben_muse/2006/07/american_indian.html

CW on May 6, 2012 at 2:55 PM

There’s no doubt that ancient Indians were treated unfairly and poorly by the U.S. Government. There is no doubt that westward expansion and natural progression were unkind to America’s indigenous peoples. There is no doubt that the “savage” Indians of old America were assimilated rather than exterminated.

But fast forward hundreds of years to the last century right up to today and –

Is there some law or other legislated rule of force that prevents “Indians” from moving off the reservation and living wherever they want to in the United States of America?

Is there some law or other legislated rule of force that prevents “Indians” from going off of the reservation for a job?

Is there some law or other legislated rule of force that prevents “Indians” from attending public schools of their choice?

Is there some law or other legislated rule of force that prevents “Indians” from attending school and getting an education even on the reservation?

Is there some law or other legislated rule of force that prevents “Indians” from enjoying the same freedoms and liberties the entire nation enjoys?

Is there some law or other legislated rule of force that prevents “Indians” from putting forth the same efforts that everyone else has to put forth to ‘pursue happiness’?

No? Hmm. Imagine that. Nomadic peoples who never once settled permanently in one spot anywhere on this entire continent in their entire existence before progress caught up with them feel compelled to stay in one solitary spot and slather themselves in “poverty”. There must be a reason why they freely choose to do so when there is nothing preventing them from not doing so.

I was born into poverty. I grew up in poverty. I moved off and out of the reservation (ie: home) at 17.5-yrs old with $200 I earned doing menial labor in my pocket and nothing but the public school education, the clothes on my back, and whatever I wanted to make of my life as my only supplies. I did pretty darn well. So have the uncountable numbers of others in this country who have done so generation after generation after generation ad nauseam.

FlatFoot on May 6, 2012 at 2:55 PM

what’s next? return black people back to africa?

Sachiko on May 6, 2012 at 2:40 PM

Whatcha talkin about, Willis?

o_0

BlaxPac on May 6, 2012 at 2:55 PM

I will agree with this soon as the Turks return Constantinople to the Roman Empire.

wildcat72 on May 6, 2012 at 2:56 PM

The Nazis just called… they want Soros back.

faraway on May 6, 2012 at 2:56 PM

If any land is given back to the Indians, the first parcel should be the ground on which the UN is located.

Bigfoot on May 6, 2012 at 2:15 PM

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I think we all could live with that.

CW on May 6, 2012 at 2:24 PM

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I would second that, except the UN doesn’t give a (expletive) about the plight of the Native Americans. Or anyone else, for that matter.

The UN want the U.S. to be disabled and dissolved, period.
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Hey UN, . . . . . MOLON LABE ! ! !

listens2glenn on May 6, 2012 at 3:00 PM

How about Italy give back the Tyrolian provinces they stole from Austria?

crosspatch on May 6, 2012 at 2:37 PM

Why stop there?

How about giving back South Tyrol, Eastern Switzerland, Liechtenstin and Bavaria?

Lefties are such easy targets.

Schadenfreude on May 6, 2012 at 3:01 PM

I’ve often thought it would be cool to let native Americans and buffalo roam the plains and live off the land like the old days, to the extent possible in designated areas, but if so they should do things the old ways with bows and arrows, horses for transportation and living in teepees at temporary camps to maintain a nomadic lifestyle. If they want to drive motorized vehicles and hunt with firearms and do it the modern way then they should obey the same rules the rest of us have to follow in the modern world.

I wouldn’t mind if they have portable computers and digital cameras and Internet access and other modern personal items if they carry it or drag it behind their horses when they move.

FloatingRock on May 6, 2012 at 3:02 PM

Does the UN guy realize that some tribes, at least those east of the Mississippi, didn’t “own” the land? Sure, they claimed it as ancestral, like the Black Hills, but they didn’t own it. So, are they just gonna give the entire High Plains and Rockies to tribes that didn’t claim any ownership to begin with?

I was in the Black Hills last summer, and saw the Crazy Horse Memorial. Sure seems like some Lakota clans are doing really well, as long as they stay away from the reservation. Sure, it’s taken over 50 years to carve Crazy Horse out of rock, but they were proud of the fact that they didn’t take any government assistance. The family who is carving the mountain for the Lakota (who should be helping), said in a video that if they had, the U.S. government would sweep in, along with the EPA, and start regulating everything. All they ask for is donations and they also get money from the museum and store that’s near the site.

cebj25 on May 6, 2012 at 3:03 PM

Liechtenstein

Schadenfreude on May 6, 2012 at 3:03 PM

I meant west of the Mississippi, not east.

cebj25 on May 6, 2012 at 3:03 PM

FlatFoot on May 6, 2012 at 2:55 PM

2 paws up !!

burrata on May 6, 2012 at 3:05 PM

And the same idiots scratch their asses and wonder why the UN is laughed at.

GarandFan on May 6, 2012 at 3:05 PM

It’s my understanding that Indians traditionally don’t recognize private property (of the real estate type)…
talkingpoints on May 6, 2012 at 2:48 PM

That is actually a myth, happily perpetuated by various groups when it suits their purposes.

DrMagnolias on May 6, 2012 at 3:05 PM

The Nazis just called… they want Soros back.

faraway on May 6, 2012 at 2:56 PM

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They can have him . . . . . . in little pieces.

Also, Mike Gorbachev and Maurice Strong.

listens2glenn on May 6, 2012 at 3:05 PM

Bill Buckner wants his World Series ring.

faraway on May 6, 2012 at 3:06 PM

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