Quotes of the day

posted at 8:01 pm on May 6, 2012 by Allahpundit

Nicolas Sarkozy’s defeat in the French presidential election makes him the ninth European leader to be booted out since the region’s debt crisis began…

Sarkozy joins a long list of victims of the crisis, which began with subprime mortgages in the U.S. before causing government yields to diverge across Europe. Leaders in Ireland, Portugal, Greece, Italy, Spain, Slovenia, Slovakia and the Netherlands were elbowed out from their posts…

Sarkozy campaigned in 2007 promising to create jobs and boost purchasing power. The fallout from the financial crisis hit France through 2008, driving the unemployment rate from a 30-year low of 7.5 percent in early 2008 to almost 10 percent at the end of 2011.

***

Hollande inherits an economy that’s a driver of the European Union but is deep in debt. He wants more government stimulus, and more government spending in general, despite concerns in the markets that France needs to urgently trim its huge debt…

Hollande intends to modify one of Sarkozy’s key reforms, over the retirement age, to allow some people to retire at 60 instead of 62. He also plans to increase spending in a range of sectors and wants to ease France off its dependence on nuclear energy. He favors legalizing euthanasia and gay marriage…

“We’re going to call France the new Greece,” said Laetitia Barone, 19. “Hollande is now very dangerous.”

***

Wealthy French people are looking to London as a refuge from fresh taxes on high earners pledged by candidates in the country’s presidential elections.

The “soak the rich” rhetoric that has punctuated the presidential campaign has prompted a sharp rise in the numbers weighing a move across the Channel, according to London-based wealth managers, lawyers and property agents specialising in French clients…

Mr Blanc says some French clients were even contemplating acquiring British or other nationality in order to safeguard assets from fears that France could move to collect more tax from citizens overseas. “A lot of people are extremely worried,” he said.

***

Hollande’s election could have a major impact on the future course of the European Union. Hollande has said he would seek to renegotiate the painstakingly agreed fiscal pact in order to include a component to ensure growth — a demand that has ruffled feathers in Berlin. According to a report in the French daily Le Figaro, Hollande plans to hold a telephone conversation with German Chancellor Angela Merkel on Sunday night…

Hollande’s political platforms were radical compared to Sarkozy’s, but they also helped him to score points with voters. One proposal is to tax any earnings over €1 million at a rate of 75 percent… Hollande also said he would withdraw all French soldiers from Afghanistan by the end of the year if elected.

***

The crowd, many too young to remember Mitterrand’s triumph, spilled onto the steps of the Bastille Opera House – a modernist legacy of the Mitterrand era – clutching flags emblazoned with the Socialist logo of a clenched fist around a rose.

Some activists brandishing Communist Party flags and pink and purple balloons clambered up the base of a column erected on the site of the Bastille prison stormed during the 1789 French revolution…

In a flashback to the days after Mitterrand’s victory, when older conservatives feared France would turn Communist and lined up to withdraw their savings from banks, [a Hollande supporter] added: “I only hope the markets don’t attack us tomorrow.”

***

But Hollande’s ideas could be put to a concrete test very quickly — like, on Monday — by the financial markets that Hollande described during the campaign as “the enemy.” The elections in Greece, which also took place today, may make the markets even more jittery and speculators more aggressive. And France is going to have to borrow about €180 billion ($240 billion) before the end of the year. Under Sarkozy it already lost its AAA credit rating. If borrowing rates start to climb dramatically the hope of clawing out of the slump will fade very quickly.

So Hollande’s first move is to try to find a way to come to terms with Merkel, or persuade her to come to terms with him.

***

“Markets will not attack France right away,” said Jacob Funk Kirkegaard, a research fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics in Washington. “But there is a risk that if Mr. Hollande does not act early on, France will become the next sick man of Europe.”…

But many economists are skeptical that France will be able to move toward greater openness, especially in its rigid labor markets. High social charges that companies pay to help finance France’s generous welfare system, combined with lengthy hiring and firing processes, deter employers from adding significant numbers of new jobs…

What is more, while French labor unions have shrunk in membership over the years, they still wield outsize influence that employers say can paralyze companies that need to shed jobs or cut other expenses to adapt to worsening economic conditions.

***

Despite fears that he will pursue a “dangerous” economic policy featuring a return to Keynesian tax-and-spend practices, Hollande and his campaign team have told the Germans that this has been ruled out. “We can’t do Keynesianism twice in 10 years,” Michel Sapin, the former finance minister who wrote Hollande’s economic programme, told senior German diplomats, according to a confidential note obtained by the Guardian.

“Hollande is aware that right at the start of his term in office, he will have to spell out hard truths to the French,” says the eight-page memo from the German embassy in Paris to Angela Merkel’s office in Berlin. Hollande has vowed to launch his reform programme as soon as he takes office on 15 May, prioritising a rise in taxes for the wealthiest and curbing the state deficit…

“It is absolutely essential to generate growth but this can only be accomplished by supply-side measures and is no longer possible through state spending programmes,” the Hollande team told the German diplomats.

***

The United States needs France. Yes, that sounds like a joke, but France is the only country capable of leading Europe politically. However close a relationship with Germany that the United States requires, once beyond the realm of economic survival, the point of diminishing returns is quickly reached. Simply put, the United States cannot do anything of political consequence solely through a partnership with Germany. But with a real, live European-style socialist in Paris, U.S. President Barack Obama will face a Hobson’s choice: work closely with Hollande and incur the wrath of Republicans, or distance himself from Hollande and squander yet another opportunity to ensure that Europe’s future is as fully as possible in the hands of its greatest power…

The bigger picture, however, is that American life is made substantially more difficult by Hollande’s inevitable and foreshadowed refusal to lead Europe and make Europe a leading force in the world. The political inspiration that only France can provide Europe will have to be played once again by a United States that is historically tired of playing that role. A U.S. Treasury spokesperson has already declared that the United States has no intention of supplying more money to the IMF to substitute for an adequate eurozone firewall. America’s traditional desire not to squander its energies on managing European problems is poised to return with full force, and not just within a single major political party. A weak France led by a colorless holdover from a defunct past is not just bad news for France, no matter how frustrated voters have become with Sarkozy. It’s awful news for the United States and for any U.S. president obliged to figure out how to help Europe out of its current morass by doing anything other than writing checks.

***

By an irony of history, the electors have chosen a second Socialist president at the moment when the acceleration of the deconstruction of the welfare state is the only option.

While the agenda of the new term has not really been the subject of discussion, it involves a profound reform of the French social model.

Since the emergence of an absolute monarchy in the 16th century, France has been dominated by the idea of an omnipotent state. In France social crises take place when the state can no longer function because people does not know how operate in its absence.

The Left is taking on a momentous burden as it dismantles a social model designed to be irreplaceable.

***

Mr Hollande claimed that many voters in Europe would greet his election with relief.

‘Europe is watching us, austerity can no longer be the only option,’ he said…

He says he ‘dislikes the rich’ and has singled out ‘the world of finance’ as his principal enemy. Douglas McWilliams, of the Centre for Economics and Business Research, said that this ‘could be the week that starts the euro break-up’.


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In a twin blow to Sarkozy between the two rounds, far-right candidate Marine Le Pen and centrist François Bayrou, who gathered around 18% and 9% respectively in the first round, both denied the incumbent an endorsement. Bayrou told supporters his personal vote would go to Hollande, while Le Pen said she would cast a blank vote.

In an often bitter presidential campaign, Hollande promised to hire more staff to boost France’s state education system and to reduce the retirement age from 62 to 60 for people who have completed a minimum 41 years of work.

He also pledged to raise taxes on the wealthy and balance the country’s budget by 2017.

And while both the far right and Sarkozy adopted an anti-immigration stance during the campaign, the Socialist candidate stood by a promise to give foreigners the right to vote in local elections.

Is Le Pen one of the HA35?
Ans lefties sound the same everywhere.

galtani on May 6, 2012 at 9:21 PM

By the end of the summer, Mr. Hollande will be heard saying to what remains of his cabinet and staff, as he gazes on the angry throngs massed below his window at the Élysée, “Il nous faudra de plus en plus gros Bastilles.”

coldwarrior on May 6, 2012 at 9:22 PM

RIP Goober

RickB on May 6, 2012 at 9:17 PM

Oh, so sad! I had forgotten about that wonderful song! “They call it that good ol’ Old Mountain Dew… and them that refuse it are few…”

Great link.

My great-grandpappywas moonshiner with a still back in the Louisiana swamps. We had no know picture of him, until I used a loupe and spied him leaning against the back bumper of a Model A in 1927, with his selling overcoat on, with the inscription on the back of the old photo, “1927 – This is life!”

That was capitalism in its truest form.

Supply…. and demand.

cane_loader on May 6, 2012 at 9:22 PM

Did someone send Hollande a tanker car full of Obama kool-aid?

fogw on May 6, 2012 at 9:23 PM

probably wants to get some notes from him…

cmsinaz on May 6, 2012 at 9:19 PM

No doubt.

VegasRick on May 6, 2012 at 9:23 PM

France goes from financial crisis to near collapse or worse by about July taking the Eurozone with it except perhaps Germany which as we post Merkel is probably considering contingency plans that include leaving the hive.

Stand by for the default cascade.

Stand by for hit here, a big hit.

Speakup on May 6, 2012 at 8:50 PM

Merkel is standing on shaky ground right now, she may be the next victim to be booted out of office. Her popularity has diminished greatly in the past year.

JPeterman on May 6, 2012 at 9:23 PM

So my grandpappy would drop by the still when he was hunting squirrel, find the dipper still swinging, and check out the latest batch. He married the moonshiner’s French-speaking daughter, and the rest is family history :-)

cane_loader on May 6, 2012 at 9:24 PM

Is Le Pen one of the HA35?
Ans lefties sound the same everywhere.

galtani on May 6, 2012 at 9:21 PM

LePen is like the Hotair ABR’s. She didn’t cast a vote for anyone in the presidential election out of protest.

JPeterman on May 6, 2012 at 9:26 PM

Hollande : Obama va payer nos factures.

galtani on May 6, 2012 at 9:27 PM

endless tax credits to big oil &biz

Talking points out his yazooo. What a joke. Brainless.

CW on May 6, 2012 at 9:27 PM

What do you think about the ideas Uppereastside is trying to sell here?

cane_loader on May 6, 2012 at 8:36 PM

Well, as Thumper said…

coldwarrior on May 6, 2012 at 8:38 PM

I much prefer more direct
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA549b7veJk

arnold ziffel on May 6, 2012 at 9:27 PM

galtani on May 6, 2012 at 9:27 PM

Who needs a space program…those checks will bounce so high…they’ll orbit for decades.

coldwarrior on May 6, 2012 at 9:29 PM

Better than angryed’s solution of calling a plumber when you can’t afford it.

cane_loader on May 6, 2012 at 9:06 PM

I watched your story with interest. We purchased a Champion4 from Lowes six weeks ago $199. I love it and tell it good morning and thank you. It is awesome despite being low flow. Has a venturi principle. It appears part of your trouble was the original install that has difficult to get right.

arnold ziffel on May 6, 2012 at 9:34 PM

All of Sarkos taint exercises gone for naught. Perhaps the fresh faced socialists will bring progressive new solutions based on social justice and equality for all (especially immigrants). Heh!

BL@KBIRD on May 6, 2012 at 9:34 PM

No wonder why DWS always looks dazed and confused…and a bit like she had been drug along a dirt road by a heard of oxen…with guys like Uppereastside e-mailin’ or tweetin’ her at all hours of the day and night.

“Debbie, what do I do? What do I do?? Them talkin’ points jes’ ain’t workin’ no more, they jes’ don’t work no more. I’m dying out here!!”

coldwarrior on May 6, 2012 at 9:34 PM

arnold ziffel on May 6, 2012 at 9:27 PM

Great scene. Never watched the show. Hope this is a metaphor for what the electorate will do to Barry Soetoro this fall.

cane_loader on May 6, 2012 at 9:35 PM

heard s/b herd.

dammit.

coldwarrior on May 6, 2012 at 9:35 PM

Good luck with the hardcore socialist Prez, France.

Newsflash – YOU HAVE NO MONEY FOR THIS KIND OF NONSENSE.

That will be all.

CorporatePiggy on May 6, 2012 at 9:37 PM

Great scene. Never watched the show. Hope this is a metaphor for what the electorate will do to Barry Soetoro this fall.

cane_loader on May 6, 2012 at 9:35 PM

Probably my favorite. The normal Psychology stuff just doesn’t work as good as a thumpin.

arnold ziffel on May 6, 2012 at 9:37 PM

They’re storming the Basille already? Calling Ann Coulter…

PattyJ on May 6, 2012 at 9:38 PM

I watched your story with interest. We purchased a Champion4 from Lowes six weeks ago $199. I love it and tell it good morning and thank you. It is awesome despite being low flow. Has a venturi principle. It appears part of your trouble was the original install that has difficult to get right.

arnold ziffel on May 6, 2012 at 9:34 PM

Yep, you bought the better one. I wanted the confidence of successfully installing a cheapo once… then, if it gives problems, I have time to shop for an actual 50-year-old toilet, which will be better for the pipes in the long run. I have the skills, at least, to diagnose the problem. Two 23-cent washers fixed the problem….. too bad it took a broken, very nice unit for me to zero in on it :-/

Sorry to the management, though, for talking crap OT!

Just wanted to give an update, as we had a pretty good go-round the other day on the topic…

cane_loader on May 6, 2012 at 9:38 PM

“The United States needs France. Yes, that sounds like a joke, but France is the only country capable of leading Europe politically.”

History tells a different story…..

Electrongod on May 6, 2012 at 8:06 PM

It certainly does. France got us into Vietnam and arguably WWI and even WWII by their weakness. We need them like we need another hole in the head.

VorDaj on May 6, 2012 at 9:39 PM

Probably my favorite. The normal Psychology stuff just doesn’t work as good as a thumpin.

arnold ziffel on May 6, 2012 at 9:37 PM

Reminds me of what an “intervention” would look like in my family.

VegasRick on May 6, 2012 at 9:40 PM

This election is more like it. This is the France I grew up with, the self-destructive, faddy, pander-happy, radical, nothing-of-a-country–the California of Europe–that should have been bankrupted long before Greek was. Sarkozy was evidently a fluke, a temporary anomaly. Now France is back on track towards going down the toilet. Unfortunately for them we won’t be there to save them this time because we’re headed down the same path and have nothing left to give.

Burke on May 6, 2012 at 9:41 PM

Sketch & Silver Spoon Ann?

Uppereastside on May 6, 2012 at 8:16 PM

At least they are used to wealth and don’t feel the need to steal the silver. It’s almost as if Michelle is afraid she won’t get another meal once they leave the Whitehouse.

Night Owl on May 6, 2012 at 9:41 PM

Just wanted to give an update, as we had a pretty good go-round the other day on the topic…

cane_loader on May 6, 2012 at 9:38 PM

Around here, as you already know, we have a pretty good go around everyday dealing with crap. :-)

coldwarrior on May 6, 2012 at 9:42 PM

DOW futures were -176 a while ago.

VorDaj on May 6, 2012 at 9:42 PM

Reminds me of what an “intervention” would look like in my family.

VegasRick on May 6, 2012 at 9:40 PM

Unfortunately we have had the “nice” one which was bs. The suspect has gotten better though—thankfullly.

arnold ziffel on May 6, 2012 at 9:43 PM

DOW futures were -176 a while ago.

VorDaj on May 6, 2012 at 9:42 PM

Tomorrow is gonna suck for the markets.

VegasRick on May 6, 2012 at 9:44 PM

cane_loader on May 6, 2012 at 9:06 PM

Dang, sorry, I should have been more helpful. There should have been two nylon bolt keepers in the package with the ring. You position the bolts and use the nylon keepers to hold the bolts upright and in place.

The other thing I do is always get two wax rings. Its easier to return the extra ring than it is to go get another one.

If your floor is a bit uneven, use grout instead of caulk. Mix it kind of dry and it won’t stick to the toilet, and it will give a better foundation for the toilet.

One last thing, it isn’t a hot water heater. There is no need to heat hot water. That always kind of bugs me. And it is scary when I hear it from a plumber.

cozmo on May 6, 2012 at 9:45 PM

It’s almost as if Michelle is afraid she won’t get another meal once they leave the White House.

Night Owl on May 6, 2012 at 9:41 PM

Ol’ Mrs. “Let them Eat Arugula?”

Have been told the meals are quite good at FPC Alderson.

coldwarrior on May 6, 2012 at 9:45 PM

Unfortunately we have had the “nice” one which was bs. The suspect has gotten better though—thankfullly.

arnold ziffel on May 6, 2012 at 9:43 PM

Hope it continues to improve.

VegasRick on May 6, 2012 at 9:45 PM

VegasRick on May 6, 2012 at 9:44 PM

yepper

cmsinaz on May 6, 2012 at 9:47 PM

yepper

cmsinaz on May 6, 2012 at 9:47 PM

I hope someone on our side says “see what happens when you elect the socialist. Wake up America!”

VegasRick on May 6, 2012 at 9:51 PM

Didn’t even hear a peep of criticism… So don’t school us about the debt Obama has accumulated under his reign as president.

Uppereastside on May 6, 2012 at 8:30 PM

So that really is going to be Obama’s election strategy, isn’t it? When Obama is accused of driving our nation to the edge of a cliff and attempting to give it still another push to complete the job, Democrats will all pop up and shout, “Boooooosh did it!!!!”

Good luck with that.

Burke on May 6, 2012 at 9:54 PM

DOW futures were -176 a while ago.

VorDaj on May 6, 2012 at 9:42 PM

Tomorrow is gonna suck for the markets.

VegasRick on May 6, 2012 at 9:44 PM

Brace for a lot of hurt.

Hollande’s election will further destabilize the teetering European bond market and economy. That, in turn, will produce a drag on the whole world’s economy. No recovery summer for Barry. The irony of electing a socialist in Europe leading to the downfall of a socialist in the US.

galtani on May 6, 2012 at 9:54 PM

Dang, sorry, I should have been more helpful. There should have been two nylon bolt keepers in the package with the ring. You position the bolts and use the nylon keepers to hold the bolts upright and in place.

The other thing I do is always get two wax rings. Its easier to return the extra ring than it is to go get another one.

If your floor is a bit uneven, use grout instead of caulk. Mix it kind of dry and it won’t stick to the toilet, and it will give a better foundation for the toilet.

One last thing, it isn’t a hot water heater. There is no need to heat hot water. That always kind of bugs me. And it is scary when I hear it from a plumber.

cozmo on May 6, 2012 at 9:45 PM

No, you were very helpful! But the nylon keepers did nothing – no helpful strength there at all; it’s an abysmal design. And when you said to get two wax rings, I thought you meant to stack them up – and it didn’t look like that was needed.

The second time I went back, I did buy two rings. Sometimes I’m a little slow….

The floor is uneven but also springy. Old wooden house up off the ground. So the caulk was better due to flexibility.

As far as the hot water heater…

If cold water came out of it, we’d call it a cold water heater!

/nyah nyah nyah

:D

cane_loader on May 6, 2012 at 9:54 PM

JPeterman

Don’t miss the rising moon tonight. It is even prettier than last night. Very big and orange here. You’re west of where I am so you should be able to still catch it as it just came up 15 minutes ago where I am this evening. ; )

Bmore on May 6, 2012 at 9:55 PM

I like the irony that the Leftists in France and here are going to ride this free-falling elevator all the way into the basement, screaming all the way. “But…but…Big Oil! Bush! Just raise taxes!”

Too funny!

SurferDoc on May 6, 2012 at 9:55 PM

JPeterman

Don’t miss the rising moon tonight. It is even prettier than last night. Very big and orange here. You’re west of where I am so you should be able to still catch it as it just came up 15 minutes ago where I am this evening. ; )

Bmore on May 6, 2012 at 9:55 PM

Mooned by the moon?

galtani on May 6, 2012 at 9:58 PM

So don’t school us about thr debt Obama has accumulated under his reign as president.

Uppereastside on May 6, 2012 at 8:30 PM

Interesting choice of words…

spinach.chin on May 6, 2012 at 9:59 PM

cane_loader on May 6, 2012 at 9:54 PM

That’s the shi…er…crappiest story I’ve ever heard.

Bishop on May 6, 2012 at 9:59 PM

Around here, as you already know, we have a pretty good go around everyday dealing with crap. :-)

coldwarrior on May 6, 2012 at 9:42 PM

Yeah we do, eh?

At least lately it’s not quite the Augean Stables, as it was after the double-open-reg.

That was disheartening.

cane_loader on May 6, 2012 at 10:02 PM

That’s the shi…er…crappiest story I’ve ever heard.

Bishop on May 6, 2012 at 9:59 PM

Yeah, when you’re full of it as I am, sometimes a shovel and pasture won’t do… after the horses do need some space of their own!

cane_loader on May 6, 2012 at 10:03 PM

Don’t miss the rising moon tonight. It is even prettier than last night.
Bmore on May 6, 2012 at 9:55 PM

More moon songs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18L99vd2ibU&feature=related

galtani on May 6, 2012 at 10:03 PM

after the horses do need some space of their own!

after ALL!

cane_loader on May 6, 2012 at 10:03 PM

cane_loader on May 6, 2012 at 10:02 PM

Yes, it was.

kingsjester on May 6, 2012 at 10:04 PM

galtani

I’m not really back yet. I did want to take a second to tell you what a bang up great job you did with uppereastside. Beautiful job my friend! ; )

Bmore on May 6, 2012 at 10:05 PM

Yes, it was.

kingsjester on May 6, 2012 at 10:04 PM

At least we had quite a few of Theseus’ brethren here, shoveling!

cane_loader on May 6, 2012 at 10:05 PM

Off to look howl gaze something at the moon for a bit

cane_loader on May 6, 2012 at 10:07 PM

cane_loader on May 6, 2012 at 10:07 PM

Lunatic.

:-)

coldwarrior on May 6, 2012 at 10:09 PM

Bmore

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpkkAsSd_Ns

galtani on May 6, 2012 at 10:09 PM

Lunatic.

:-)

coldwarrior on May 6, 2012 at 10:09 PM

is on the grass.

cane_loader on May 6, 2012 at 10:09 PM

hey, Bmore

cane_loader on May 6, 2012 at 10:10 PM

He wants more government stimulus, and more government spending in general…

Insanity.

Thanks for accelerating the world’s financial demise, France. Idiots.

Midas on May 6, 2012 at 10:11 PM

(hey, Earl)

cane_loader on May 6, 2012 at 10:11 PM

cane_loader on May 6, 2012 at 10:09 PM

Got to keep the loonies on the path.

coldwarrior on May 6, 2012 at 10:13 PM

One last thing, it isn’t a hot water heater. There is no need to heat hot water. That always kind of bugs me. And it is scary when I hear it from a plumber.

cozmo on May 6, 2012 at 9:45 PM

heh … made me laugh …

seriously .. when I have to replace the water heater .. :D
I want to get a tankless one … we use propane to heat
the water … (as well as cook … heat the house … dry clothes )

conservative tarheel on May 6, 2012 at 10:19 PM

I like the irony that the Leftists in France and here are going to ride this free-falling elevator all the way into the basement, screaming all the way. “But…but…Big Oil! Bush! Just raise taxes!”

Too funny!

SurferDoc on May 6, 2012 at 9:55 PM

Unfortunately, Leftists here and there won’t get the joke. They never do.

Burke on May 6, 2012 at 10:21 PM

My first reaction when the EU was forming, was this HAS to be a joke. No one in their right mind could think it would work.

katy the mean old lady on May 6, 2012 at 10:21 PM

More moon songs.

alrighty then

lynncgb on May 6, 2012 at 10:21 PM

The PC police don’t let us use the word lunatic anymore.

Nice takedown of upyerbackside, guys. He really does not understand fundamental economics.

onlineanalyst on May 6, 2012 at 10:22 PM

We really need a President who will forget trying to satisfying everyone and concentrate on cutting to the bone these federal entitlement programs as well as the entitlement programs the public has figured out how to cheat. http://www.usa.gov/directory/federal/index.shtml here’s a start and as you read down through them you’ll wonder what in hell they do other than provide a job for every federal family and friend. Do yourself a favor and read through the list.

mixplix on May 6, 2012 at 10:22 PM

The paper holds their folded faces to the floor……….

angrymike on May 6, 2012 at 10:23 PM

Didn’t even hear a peep of criticism… So don’t school us about the debt Obama has accumulated under his reign as president.

Uppereastside on May 6, 2012 at 8:30 PM

YOu know, I’ve had my fill of f@#$tards like you over the last few years saying utter bullsqueeze like that. MANY conservatives were VERY vocally critical of MANY of Bush’s actions, you sh1twit. So pull you head out of your a$$ and STFU.

We schooled Bush & Co. about his spending, and we’ll damn well school you Obama dipsticks as well – and even more so, considering the spending and debt DWARF the crap that Bush spent (and every other f-ing President combined, thank you).

Pardon my ‘French’ (seemed appropo to the thread).

Midas on May 6, 2012 at 10:23 PM

“Under Sarkozy it already lost its AAA credit rating.”

It’s a good thing for Obowma that we still have ours…

… Oh, wait!

/

Seven Percent Solution on May 6, 2012 at 10:26 PM

By an irony of history, the electors have chosen a second Socialist president at the moment when the acceleration of the deconstruction of the welfare state is the only option.

While the agenda of the new term has not really been the subject of discussion, it involves a profound reform of the French social model.

Exactly. France has to borrow around $275 billion before the end of the year. If Hollande’s government goes on a spending spree, you will see interest rates charged by banks and bond purchasers skyrocket. They simply will not stand for more spending without fundamental reform.

6 months and Hollande will be speaking on economic policy like Obama did on the war on terror when he adopted most of Bush’s war on terror policies.

Resist We Much on May 6, 2012 at 10:28 PM

So don’t school us about thr debt Obama has accumulated under his reign as president.

Uppereastside on May 6, 2012 at 8:30 PM

Interesting choice of words…

spinach.chin on May 6, 2012 at 9:59 PM

remember … Obama was ready rule from day one ….

conservative tarheel on May 6, 2012 at 10:29 PM

Instead of Hollande, it could have been the rapist, Dominique Strauss-Kahn in the Élysée Palace. BJ Clinton is totally disappointed, he would have enjoyed all those parties.

galtani on May 6, 2012 at 10:29 PM

galtani on May 6, 2012 at 10:09 PM

And one for you. Annette Hanshaw. I have always enjoyed this happy little tune. ; )

cane_loader on May 6, 2012 at 10:10 PM

Hey cane_loader , should be back in the saddle by mid week. See you all then. : )

Bmore on May 6, 2012 at 10:30 PM

Cripes…

France 2012: Greece with nuclear weapons, but with less will to use them.

BlaxPac on May 6, 2012 at 10:30 PM

France’s 52%, like America’s 52% in 2008, is going to get the government they deserve.

Rational Thought on May 6, 2012 at 10:32 PM

Rational Thought on May 6, 2012 at 10:32 PM

but France is just starting their trip … hopefully we are about
to end ours …

conservative tarheel on May 6, 2012 at 10:35 PM

Bmore on May 6, 2012 at 10:30 PM

Now that is really way out from the left field. But ain’t Annette sweet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qno2T8UqXDA

galtani on May 6, 2012 at 10:38 PM

So don’t school us about thr debt Obama has accumulated under his reign as president.

Uppereastside on May 6, 2012 at 8:30 PM

Well, *someone* needs to school you on something UES…

Since you now have the opportunity to school us fiscal heathens, (outside of the obvious, ObamaCare) pray tell us, for the past 3 years and for the over $5 Trillion dollars spent during his Administration, what exactly has the country gotten for it’s money?

Lower Gas? Gas is on average $.50 to $1.50 higher now than during Bush’s 8 yrs in office.

Food Cost? Same as gas.

Employment? Remember when it peaked at just about 5.4% during Bush Term? Well where is it now? In both real and estimated numbers.

Capitol Investments? Solyndra? A123? Basically the whole Green Jobs stuff? Hmm…

Overall, what sector of the economy, foreign relations, capitol investment has this Administration done?

Anywhere? Except borrow the financial value of California 10x over for what I sure is a GREAT interest rate…from China?

Yeah, gimme another 4 years of THAT.

It’s one thing to be dedicated to the cause…it’s a whole ‘nother thing if you turn into a sock-puppet….

BlaxPac on May 6, 2012 at 10:39 PM

coldwarrior on May 6, 2012 at 9:07 PM

China already has a considerable involvement in the Eurozone, its not hard to see them in majority ownership roles.

Speakup on May 6, 2012 at 10:40 PM

When Hollande realizes that he can’t print Euros to cover the promises that he has made, and no one will lend him anymore money…

… the only thing left to do will be to divert the populations anger and point to a ‘devil’ to blame.

I’ve seen this movie before…

… and it doesn’t turn out to well.

Seven Percent Solution on May 6, 2012 at 10:40 PM

Do yourself a favor and read through the list.

mixplix on May 6, 2012 at 10:22 PM

I did. Gotta love this one:

Office of Government Ethics

lynncgb on May 6, 2012 at 10:42 PM

Only good thing to come out of France’s election is the further demise of Europe which will take out Obama. Kind of funny-one socialist taking out another.

Ta111 on May 6, 2012 at 10:43 PM

but France is just starting their trip … hopefully we are about
to end ours …

conservative tarheel on May 6, 2012 at 10:35 PM

I sure hope that’s true.

Rational Thought on May 6, 2012 at 10:46 PM

seriously .. when I have to replace the water heater .. :D
I want to get a tankless one … we use propane to heat
the water … (as well as cook … heat the house … dry clothes )

conservative tarheel on May 6, 2012 at 10:19 PM

I want to switch as well. I haven’t checked for propane, but using gas, ya’ need stainless steel vent pipe because of the heat. As expensive as the water heater and hard to find. Not sure if I am comfortable enough with the exterior mount tankless heaters at this point.

My house uses electricity and even the best of the tankless water heaters don’t live up to the advertising. I have considered using a tank water heater as a first stage for the tankless. In that case, it would be a hot water heater. Or a hot water pre-heater.

cozmo on May 6, 2012 at 10:47 PM

BlaxPac on May 6, 2012 at 10:39 PM

spot on …. good list sir .. thank you

conservative tarheel on May 6, 2012 at 10:48 PM

cozmo on May 6, 2012 at 10:47 PM

I plan on mounting it inside … just replace the current heater with the
tankless one ….

conservative tarheel on May 6, 2012 at 10:50 PM

The paper holds their folded faces to the floor……….

angrymike on May 6, 2012 at 10:23 PM

And every day, the paperboy brings more…

cane_loader on May 6, 2012 at 10:51 PM

When Hollande realizes that he can’t print Euros to cover the promises that he has made, and no one will lend him anymore money…

… the only thing left to do will be to divert the populations anger and point to a ‘devil’ to blame.

I’ve seen this movie before…

… and it doesn’t turn out to well.

Seven Percent Solution on May 6, 2012 at 10:40 PM

Indeed. If I were of a certain religious persuasion and I lived in France, I would be getting the hell out of there as fast as I could. Imagine how emboldened those “youth” who live in the ghettos ringing Paris feel right about now. They’ll be burning a helluva lot more than the usual hundred cars a night very, very soon when they find out that the welfare state is just as broke under a socialist.

Rational Thought on May 6, 2012 at 10:51 PM

I plan on mounting it inside … just replace the current heater with the
tankless one ….

conservative tarheel on May 6, 2012 at 10:50 PM

Check with the manufacturer. The tankless water heaters have a lot more waste heat going up the vent.

cozmo on May 6, 2012 at 10:52 PM

well … guys … range day tomorrow …
100 – 150 rounds of 9mm going down range
and I gotta be bright eyed and bushy tailed …
c u all l8r

conservative tarheel on May 6, 2012 at 10:54 PM

When Hollande realizes that he can’t print Euros to cover the promises that he has made, and no one will lend him anymore money…

… the only thing left to do will be to divert the populations anger and point to a ‘devil’ to blame.

I’ve seen this movie before…

… and it doesn’t turn out to well.

Seven Percent Solution on May 6, 2012 at 10:40 PM

Seven, I think the riots in France for the past few yrs had a lot more to do with Sarkozys fall than even the economic blunders…

Maybe i’m reading the news wrong, but another thing would be the unusual relationship France & Germany especially on the cooperation for the EU bailout and specifically that for Greece, etc.

Maybe enough people felt that if they were going to go bankrupt, let it be for ‘French’ layabouts, instead of other countries….shrug.

All in all, it doesn’t look good. While i do sympathize with France, I worry more for the direction Great Brittan is heading to.

We can always find another France on the European Continent…we will be damned hard pressed to find another ally like GB.

Anyway, keep reading DF site for details and general laughs…he doesn’t always update as often as he should, but when he does, it’s worth the wait.

BlaxPac on May 6, 2012 at 10:54 PM

Check with the manufacturer. The tankless water heaters have a lot more waste heat going up the vent.

cozmo on May 6, 2012 at 10:52 PM

Attach it to a slooow-cooker and then you’re living green :-)

cane_loader on May 6, 2012 at 10:55 PM

Germany is now the firewall. It’s been obvious for awhile, but now it’s screamingly obvious.

cane_loader on May 6, 2012 at 10:56 PM

Attach it to a slooow-cooker and then you’re living green :-)

cane_loader on May 6, 2012 at 10:55 PM

I’m beginning to understand the southern expression about beer and fire when some yahoo says “hey, watch this”.

cozmo on May 6, 2012 at 10:58 PM

Good-bye, France. It’s been nice knowing you. Glad I saw Paris before it went Islamic.

Wealthy French people are looking to London as a refuge from fresh taxes on high earners pledged by candidates in the country’s presidential elections.

For the kajillionth time… money flees taxes.

Leftists never learn this.

mankai on May 6, 2012 at 10:58 PM

Hey, Germany, how’s that whole EU thing working out?

mankai on May 6, 2012 at 10:59 PM

I cannot help wondering if a Scarlet Pimpernell shall arise in England to Rescue the France’s Wealthy

jaydee_007 on May 6, 2012 at 10:59 PM

conservative tarheel on May 6, 2012 at 10:54 PM

Nite, CT…and TY for the thumbs up earlier!

Hey that reminds me, need to put in a reorder for some Winchester/Federal ACP goodness next month…want to get some good range time in before the summer groups start rolling in and taking all the good slots!

BlaxPac on May 6, 2012 at 11:01 PM

I’m beginning to understand the southern expression about beer and fire when some yahoo says “hey, watch this”.

cozmo on May 6, 2012 at 10:58 PM

Ahem, the correct phrasing is, “hey, y’all, watch this!”

cane_loader on May 6, 2012 at 11:06 PM

Uppereastside on May 6, 2012 at 8:13 PM

Are you for real?

Did you ever study heard of economics?

Your hero is BANKRUPTING AMERICA!

cane_loader on May 6, 2012 at 8:14 PM

FIFY.

Sketch & Silver Spoon Ann?

Uppereastside on May 6, 2012 at 8:16 PM

I’ve always wondered exactly what kind of idiot a person needed to be to buy TehOnce’s snake oil. Now that you’ve demonstrated the quality of your reading comp. skills, I understand perfectly. Thank you.

Dark Star on May 6, 2012 at 11:12 PM

*D’oh “hear of” not “heard of.”

Dark Star on May 6, 2012 at 11:12 PM

B

laxPac on May 6, 2012 at 11:01 PM

where do you buy your ammo?

I like cheaperthendirt.com or luckygunner.com

now I am going to bed …:D

conservative tarheel on May 6, 2012 at 11:15 PM

now I am going to bed …:D

conservative tarheel on May 6, 2012 at 11:15 PM

Count the sheep, don’t shoot ‘em ;-)

cane_loader on May 6, 2012 at 11:17 PM

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