Mourdock up 10 over Lugar, 48/38, four days before Indiana primary

posted at 10:41 am on May 4, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Indystar calls this latest poll result a “dramatic slide,” and is it ever.  Incumbent Senator Dick Lugar led the race in the last iteration of the Howey/DePauw poll by seven points.  Today, he’s trailing by ten, and Lugar has only four days to turn it around:

The Howey/DePauw Indiana Battleground Poll, conducted by two prominent Republican and Democratic pollsters, shows Mourdock with a 48 percent to 38 percent lead over Lugar. …

The poll shows a dramatic slide for Lugar, who in his last election in 2006 won with more than 80 percent of the vote after Democrats considered him so unbeatable that they didn’t field a candidate against him.

Only about a month ago, a Howey/DePauw Battleground poll showed Lugar leading Mourdock 42 percent to 35 percent.

When voters who were not solid in their support for a candidate yet and were merely leaning in one direction or the other are removed, Mourdock is still leading 43 percent to 35 percent over Lugar.

Just a month ago, the Howey/DePauw survey was good enough to get analysts believing that Lugar could hold serve on Tuesday:

U.S. Sen. Dick Lugar is in the most precarious position of his political career since autumn 1974 when he unsuccessfully challenged Democratic incumbent Birch Bayh. A Howey/DePauw Indiana Battleground Poll released today reveals Lugar with a 42-35% lead over Indiana Treasurer Richard Mourdock, with the two evenly splitting the vote among the 72% of primary voters identifying with the GOP. It has prompted HPI to move this race into “tossup” from “Leans Lugar.”

The poll by Republican pollster Christine Matthews of Bellwether Research and Democrat pollster Fred Yang of Garin-Hart-Yang Research Group, was conducted March 26-28 of 503 likely Republican primary voters and March 26 -27 of 503 likely Indiana general election voters. It has a +/-4.5% margin of error.

The polling came after Lugar had experienced a terrible week. He took broadside headlines related to the residency issue in the week before the polling, with the Democratic Marion County Election Board denying the voting address he had used since joining the Senate in the late 70’s. The three days of polling coincided with the beginning of a statewide Club for Growth TV assault ad branding Lugar as a big tax and spender who loves earmarks.

That’s a seventeen-point turnaround for the six-term incumbent, which is dramatic indeed.  Now it looks like Lugar might make history in an entirely negative way:

Indiana’s primary will be held next Tuesday in a race where ads sponsored by a pro-Lugar PAC have recently been pulled – suggesting the intraparty coup many have suspected would befall the longtime member of the Senate will indeed come to fruition.

In the 2010 cycle, Republicans saw three-term Utah Senator Bob Bennett and two-term Alaska Senator Lisa Murkowski fall in the GOP convention/primary process, while five-term Pennsylvania Senator Arlen Specter switched parties knowing full well that he would lose his primary to eventual general election winner, Pat Toomey. (Murkowski ultimately retained her seat through a write-in campaign).

But if Senator Lugar loses next Tuesday, he’ll join an exclusive club with a current membership of just one.

A Smart Politics review of U.S. Senate election data finds that if Dick Lugar loses the Indiana Republican primary election on May 8th, he will become just the second six-term U.S. Senator – and the first Republican – to fail in his renomination bid in the direct election era of the past 100 years.

Be sure to follow the link to learn the trivia answer as to who the other club member would be.

If Lugar loses by this kind of margin on Tuesday, he won’t be the only one embarrassed by the loss.  Outgoing Governor Mitch Daniels has campaigned for Lugar, especially over the last few weeks, cutting TV ads for Lugar’s campaign.  A loss would also be a rebuke to Daniels, and could hurt his standing in the GOP down the road with the grassroots and the establishment.  Gubernatorial candidate Mike Pence was smarter, refusing two months ago to endorse anyone in the Senate primary:

“I’ve known both men and respected both men for more than 20 years, and I think that when you have two good choices in a primary, you ought to let voters decide,” he said. “I consider Richard Lugar a mentor and a friend, and Richard Mourdock is someone I have admired as well.”

A Mourdock victory would be a triumph for the Tea Party, which also forced Orrin Hatch into a primary in Utah, if only barely.  That would belie the media narrative these days that the Tea Party has run out of gas.  They obviously haven’t in Indiana.

Update: Here’s a prediction from Twitter follower Schwabcycler: “Bet Lugar pulls a Specter.”  Or perhaps a Lieberman?  Hmmmmm.


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That would belie the media narrative these days that the Tea Party has run out of gas.

“Out of gas”…..Ed, this party is just getting started.

tencole on May 4, 2012 at 10:50 AM

..sorry to go all AngryEd on you, but:

BELIE /biˈlī/ Verb:

(1) (of an appearance) Fail to give a true notion or impression of (something); disguise or contradict: “his alert manner belied his years”.

(2) Fail to fulfill or justify (a claim or expectation); betray.

The War Planner on May 4, 2012 at 11:56 AM

And Peggy Noonan, who voted for Obama, endorses Lugar and Etch-a-sketch!

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/298935/noonan-backs-lugar-brian-bolduc#

RINO’s of the world unite. You have nothing to lose but your “corrupt crony capitalism!”

Jayrae on May 4, 2012 at 11:57 AM

TerriHaute on May 4, 2012 at 11:49 AM

Well, I give him that: he hasnt talked about punching people in the face because they disagree with him.

Valkyriepundit on May 4, 2012 at 11:57 AM

Are my fellow Texans getting bombarded on HotAir with what a communist loving scum Tea Party candidate Ted Cruz is with the side ads? It is going to be my pleasure to “Choose Cruz” and not replace Kay Bailey with Kay Bailey light.

Marcus on May 4, 2012 at 10:50 AM

Getting “The Real Ted Cruz” ad as well… Was looking at the sample primary ballot just yesterday…

phreshone on May 4, 2012 at 11:58 AM

I see this guy’s picture and I see the poster child for everything corrupt and insidious in American politics. I see someone obsessed with advancing their career at any and all costs…The ONLY difference between a John Edwards and the rest of the human garbage that represent us in Congress…..He got caught!

repvoter on May 4, 2012 at 11:59 AM

We got enough Lawyers in the Senate. It’s a repeat, but maybe I can influence some minds – consider Lippert.

Deafdog on May 4, 2012 at 11:20 AM

It would help if you got his name right.

As for those bashing the governor for endorsing Dewhurst; No governor of Texas ever goes against the lieutenant governor if he wants to get anything done in the legislature.

cozmo on May 4, 2012 at 11:59 AM

Funny, no mention of Palin’s influence…

ChuckTX on May 4, 2012 at 12:01 PM

Funny, no mention of Palin’s influence…

ChuckTX on May 4, 2012 at 12:01 PM

I like Palin a lot, but…

1) There was a lot of momentum behind Mourdock building up and he really started to surge (even before her endorsement).

2) As has been pointed out, people like Hannity and Bachmann also got behind Mourdock.

At the end of the day, Palin’s not going to get a lot of credit; and she shouldn’t expect this in return. She seems to be quite focused here – surprisingly deviating from McCain. This really should be about Indiana and Mourdock. Palin was a piece in that puzzle, but to say that she was the ultimate sway is underestimating just how bad Lugar is and how right-moving IN has been going.

MeatHeadinCA on May 4, 2012 at 12:06 PM

Funny, no mention of Palin’s influence…

ChuckTX on May 4, 2012 at 12:01 PM

We hobbits know where the power lies..:)

idesign on May 4, 2012 at 12:08 PM

I am an ex-pat Hoosier living in Texas for the last 23 years. Replacing Lugar is at least one term overdue, probably 2. To run as an independent, Lugar would have to find his way back to the state, and I’m not sure he can still do that. My family back in Indiana are dying for the chance to punt Lugar.

As for Cruz versus Dewhurst, I liked what I heard early for Cruz. I think he is late in responding to Dewhurst’s China ad. I don’t really care about Rick Perry’s endorsement. Perry has been invisible here in South Texas since losing the presidential nomination race. He needs to restore his own state relevancy before he can influence anything. I want to hear a rebuttal from Cruz regarding Dewhurst’s attacks.

Speaking of Texas races, what is going on in the race to replace Ron Pauk in congress? That has been silent as can be, and I live in Ron Paul’s district.

Parabellum on May 4, 2012 at 12:08 PM

Gee….. I think Sarah Palin endorsed Murdoch on April 28th and the next day the GOP dropped plans to spend a lot of money on ads backing Lugar…. right?
But, I guess since Sarah Palin doesn’t matter anymore in Republican circles… evidenced so far by the fact that she is apparently not invited to speak at the Republican Convention….
that endorsement surely did not have anything to do with these results… right?

PhilipJames on May 4, 2012 at 12:08 PM

As for those bashing the governor for endorsing Dewhurst; No governor of Texas ever goes against the lieutenant governor if he wants to get anything done in the legislature.

cozmo on May 4, 2012 at 11:59 AM

Excellent point. For those who don’t know, Tx. Lt. Gov. sets the agenda of the legislature. The power the governor has is appointments to agencies and a veto threat (which Perry uses). The Lt. Gov. controls the debate though. We would have been on par with Arizona and Oklahoma legislation wise but for the reins Dewhurst held.

DanMan on May 4, 2012 at 12:13 PM

Will Mourdock make a good candidate in the general, too? IN ain’t Utah, after all.

changer1701 on May 4, 2012 at 10:57 AM

He will oppose an Obama-fellating Democrat (Joe Donnelly) who voted for Obamacare and decided not to run for another term in the House when the Republicans carved up his district and made it less solidly Democrat. Donnelly is a lying, corrupt, vile, stinking turd…and a lawyer (redundancy noted).

Extrafishy on May 4, 2012 at 12:13 PM

It’s a good day in Indiana.

Fight hard until it happens!

Send all the incontinents home, to live like their constituents. The potentates have forgotten who feeds their regla life-styles.

In Nov. send most of the Congress home, from the left to the right.

Schadenfreude on May 4, 2012 at 12:19 PM

Excellent point.

DanMan on May 4, 2012 at 12:13 PM

Of course it is, its me.

As for the Cruz Dewhurst race, forget them both, and Leppert.

ALyT has left for work, right?

Vote Craig! Send Lubbock completely over the edge.

Dewhurst/Leppert/Craig are pretty much the same, an incremental improvement over KBH on par with Cornyn. If you don’t want to go for Cruz, the entertainment value from Craig will be a plus to the plain vanilla Texas candidates. Heck, if Craig gets the nomination the dems might think they have a chance this year and do something interesting.

cozmo on May 4, 2012 at 12:23 PM

Purely a coincidence that Palin endorsed Mourdock 4/27, and this poll beginning 4/30 shows him coming on strong…

I know it’s not all Palin. I now live in Indiana, and had already planned to vote for Mourdock. Lugar was already sliding.

I think it’s pretty obvious, though, that Palin saw Lugar sliding and gave him a (not-so-gentle) nudge on down the hill.

She’s been to Indiana a few times, also, and seems generally pretty popular here.

As others have also noted, “The Tea Party is Dead.” (keep dreaming, Daniels/Romney/Frum and associated RINOS!!!)

cs89 on May 4, 2012 at 12:24 PM

In Nov. send most of the Congress home, from the left to the right.

Schadenfreude on May 4, 2012 at 12:19 PM

Lugar won’t have far to travel to go home. He’s lived in Virginia for years and doesn’t even pretend to have a home in Indiana. We won’t miss him.

Extrafishy on May 4, 2012 at 12:26 PM

We need to dump the Republicans who sent out this mailing.

Lugar’s supporters are pulling out all the stops. The young guns sent out this.
https://twitter.com/#!/zmdave/status/198229438620643328/photo/1/large

zmdavid on May 4, 2012 at 11:00 AM

The Young Guns are Eric Cantor’s creation. Cantor is a snake that cannot be trusted.

bw222 on May 4, 2012 at 12:35 PM

Schadenfreude on May 4, 2012 at 12:19 PM

I’m not sure Lugar remembers where Indiana is. It’s long time since he’s lived there.

Annar on May 4, 2012 at 12:35 PM

That is the best news I have heard in awhile. The establishment types led by McConnell and they enlisted Peggy Noonan this morning are pitted against conservatives in this race. To see Mourdock doing so well makes me happy to have contributed to his race. The general election will have Mike Pence for Governor who I wanted to run for President and looks like Mourdock for Senator which puts Indiana back in the conservative column.

Have family in Indiana who cannot wait to go vote Tuesday and send a message to the Establishment Republicans. They are furious that Lugar is running when he was ruled ineligible to vote in IN because of a lack of a residence.

Will make an interesting evening on Tuesday! Romney, McConnell, Rove and the establishment against the GOP Grassroots and Tea Party conservatives. My bet is on the conservatives! Just like my bet was on Rick Perry in the 2010 primary for Governor when Romney endorsed Kay Bailey and Rove was involved in her campaign. Finally coming out that Rove is no conservative but the go to guy of the establishment.

PhiKapMom on May 4, 2012 at 12:36 PM

The Young Guns are Eric Cantor’s creation. Cantor is a snake that cannot be trusted.

bw222 on May 4, 2012 at 12:35 PM

I agree with this. :-)

Punchenko on May 4, 2012 at 12:37 PM

Are my fellow Texans getting bombarded on HotAir with what a communist loving scum Tea Party candidate Ted Cruz is with the side ads? It is going to be my pleasure to “Choose Cruz” and not replace Kay Bailey with Kay Bailey light.

Marcus on May 4, 2012 at 10:50 AM

Yes, I’ve seen it. And it looks pretty bad.

I’ll still take him over the competition.

CorporatePiggy on May 4, 2012 at 12:41 PM

i’ll leave it to others to debate Palin’s influence in this Primary.BUT, the Action Network backing Lugar pulled out
immediately AFTER she endorsed…..

DAMN! I bet ALL politicians wish they were this ‘irrelevant”

ToddPA on May 4, 2012 at 12:44 PM

Update: Here’s a prediction from Twitter follower Schwabcycler: “Bet Lugar pulls a Specter.” Or perhaps a Lieberman? Hmmmmm.

Or a Mur-COW-ski.

Rational Thought on May 4, 2012 at 10:56 A

And thanks to Indiana’s sore loser laws, once he’s done, he’s done.

KingGold on May 4, 2012 at 11:00 AM

I hope Lugar won’t be an ass and decide to run as an Indy (pun intended).

nor do I see Lugar going the write in route. Neither of those things would play well in Hoosierland.

tommyboy on May 4, 2012 at 11:01 AM

a sore-loser law is a law which states that the loser in a primary election can’t then run as an independent in the general election, and Indiana does not have write in. If Lugar lost the primary, he is done for 2012.

galtani on May 4, 2012 at 12:47 PM

The insult was when Lugar started trying to get Dems and Indys to vote in the primary for him. Another career politician that cares more about his job than about serving his constituents. He is a poster boy for the need for term limits. Goodbye DICK.

search4truth on May 4, 2012 at 12:52 PM

Palin Power.

Buh-Bye, RINO pondscum.

Norwegian on May 4, 2012 at 12:52 PM

mankai on May 4, 2012 at 11:01 AM

Honestly don’t know if Lugar could win as an indy.

MeatHeadinCA on May 4, 2012 at 11:03 AM

He doesn’t have to win, just draw votes away from the GOP. But from I’ve read, it appears as though IN won’t allow him to try…?

mankai on May 4, 2012 at 12:53 PM

ALyT has left for work, right?

Vote Craig! Send Lubbock completely over the edge.

cozmo on May 4, 2012 at 12:23 PM

Guns Up! tortillas will fly if Craig James makes it

From what I can tell he will only see votes from the west Memorial area of Houston and University Park in Dallas. Not a bad guy but West Texas don’t cotton to him at all.

DanMan on May 4, 2012 at 12:56 PM

Here in Ft. Worth, I can’t wait to replace Kay “Bailout” Hutchinson!

I’m voting for Ted Cruz.
I didn’t know he was a Commie lovin traitor.

He ‘sounded’ very Conservative being interviewed by radio host Mark Davis, before Rush comes on in the morning.

Am I voting for a RINO?

Typicalwhitewoman on May 4, 2012 at 12:59 PM

Palin/West 2012

Pragmatic on May 4, 2012 at 1:04 PM

Am I voting for a RINO?

Typicalwhitewoman on May 4, 2012 at 12:59 PM

No. Consider the source of your information. Ted Cruz represented Texas against the UN in a case where several kids raped and murdered a couple of young girls. A couple of the defendents claimed they qualified as dual citizens since their parents were illegals. Cruz won and is cool. He comes from humble beginnings and has a working idea of how the world works.

DanMan on May 4, 2012 at 1:14 PM

Contrary to the delusional wet dreams of dingy-harry reid and the socialist media, the Tea Party is alive and well and continuing to do great things for America.

All patriots should support Dan Liljenquist to be the next Senator from Utah.

Now, it’s on to Indiana and the replacement of lugar – who doesn’t even live in Indiana (he’s a 100% washington establishment slimebag) and cannot even vote there ! – with a real conservative and actual representative of the people of Indiana – is a HIGH PRIORITY for conservatives.

TeaPartyNation on May 4, 2012 at 1:18 PM

Go Palincuda Go!

Pragmatic on May 4, 2012 at 1:19 PM

Outgoing Governor Mitch Daniels has campaigned for Lugar,

What a surprise that Mitch the VAT would support a RINO like Lugar.

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Odysseus on May 4, 2012 at 1:25 PM

How old is Lugar?

400?

PappyD61 on May 4, 2012 at 1:27 PM

Have family in Indiana who cannot wait to go vote Tuesday and send a message to the Establishment Republicans. They are furious that Lugar is running when he was ruled ineligible to vote in IN because of a lack of a residence.

Lugar wasn’t ruled ineligible to vote in Indiana, but just can’t vote in Marion County where he sold his house when he moved to Washington. He still owns farm land in Indiana, not sure where, but that is now where he has to vote.

rhit87 on May 4, 2012 at 1:32 PM

Rush talking about this now.

swinia sutki on May 4, 2012 at 1:48 PM

Excellent news, Lugar always irritated me. If he were from Maine then I would like him, but he isn’t nearly conservative for Indiana.

Daemonocracy on May 4, 2012 at 1:49 PM

You can go to Ted Cruz’s website and read that Dewhurst basically trolled through every court case that the firm Ted Cruz works for (a huge firm) looking for any ugly case they could pin on Cruz. That’s what I gather at least. I’m voting Cruz because I want a young Conservative Hispanic. There, I’ve said it. We know what old and gray Republican Texan Senators do – they to to DC and say how cool it would be for Joe Scarborough to run in Florida. And if not Joe than instead a 5th generation party boy with a reputation of never having done anything other than living off the “Connie Mack” name and running a Hooters.

Marcus on May 4, 2012 at 1:59 PM

Marcus on May 4, 2012 at 1:59 PM

I haven’t given up on Cornyn quite yet. He started out so strong in his first term and then seemed to fall into the game when he was appointed to lead the GOP Senate Reelection Committee. He got torched bad with Crist and I think he learned from it. I believe he would follow a conservative crowd but I admit I don’t think he would lead one. Dewhurst is a Texas Dem from 20 years ago. Get Cruz, Rubio, Chavetz, Rand Paul and several more…oh man think of where the senate could go.

DanMan on May 4, 2012 at 2:18 PM

Lugar makes last-ditch appeal for support from Indiana Democrats, independents in GOP primary

http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/73ebc347d40d40268663bc1d78109103/IN–Indiana-Senate/

pseudonominus on May 4, 2012 at 2:26 PM

This is an example of how the tea party got TOO radical in their ways. Attacking Lugar for having the audacity to follow age old tradition of confirming a president’s pick for the supreme court? How dare he! Laughably, it’s the same history-failing tea partiers in the state who surely would give hell to the Democrats for not confirming Robert Bork.

The future of the GOP seems to be- be as fringe right as possible or go to hades. Great message. That’s gonna win us a ton of elections alright.

TheBlueSite on May 4, 2012 at 2:39 PM

TheBlueSite on May 4, 2012 at 2:39 PM

Tea Partiers are (apparently unlike you!) familiar enough with history to remember the lesson of Bork: If the GOP continues to consistently “remain above the fray,” “honor tradition,” etc., while the DNC does whatever it takes to win- the DNC will win.

The stakes are too high not to remember and “fight fire with fire.”

Which is why progressives get so uptight about Breitbart, Treacher, etc.- they just can’t believe the conservatives are actually willing to take them on.

Hilarious, IMO.

cs89 on May 4, 2012 at 2:44 PM

cs89 on May 4, 2012 at 2:44 PM

That tactic won’t work. It merely leads to a climate where everyone who has an R in front of heir name votes down the appointee of every president with a D in front of his name and vice versa. The Constitution limits the senates role in confirming justices to the court. Barring some nutjob being picked, their job is to confirm. The Tea Party, I’m convinced would vote down any justice, no matter how moderate and fair they were if Obama appointed him/her. It’s their MO. If you’re not on the conservative fringe or close to it, you’re an evil dirty RINO. As if we can win elections by telling the middle to take a hike. It’s absurd, and it’s why the tea party has been embarrassed time and time again with many of their picks.

TheBlueSite on May 4, 2012 at 2:48 PM

What a surprise that Mitch the VAT would support a RINO like Lugar.

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Odysseus on May 4, 2012 at 1:25 PM

That’s potential VP Mitch The Vat. Have some respect will ya? These are your betters we’re talking about.

angryed on May 4, 2012 at 2:55 PM

TheBlueSite on May 4, 2012 at 2:39 PM

I didn’t know Peggy Noonan was a poster here.

angryed on May 4, 2012 at 2:56 PM

This is an example of how the tea party got TOO radical in their ways. Attacking Lugar for having the audacity to follow age old tradition of confirming a president’s pick for the supreme court? How dare he! Laughably, it’s the same history-failing tea partiers in the state who surely would give hell to the Democrats for not confirming Robert Bork.

The future of the GOP seems to be- be as fringe right as possible or go to hades. Great message. That’s gonna win us a ton of elections alright.

TheBlueSite on May 4, 2012 at 2:39 PM

If the nominees for SCOTUS should be automatically confirmed into office, what is the point of having hearings? We have a system of checks and balances in our government the last time I checked.

And with respect to Bork, he was met with not only hostility from Democratic Senators, but the the airwaves were flooded by ads from special interests groups that lied about Bork, including one narrated by Gregory Peck.

Reggie1971 on May 4, 2012 at 2:56 PM

. As if we can win elections by telling the middle to take a hike. It’s absurd, and it’s why the tea party has been embarrassed time and time again with many of their picks.

TheBlueSite on May 4, 2012 at 2:48 PM

You’re right Only RINOs like McCain and Dole win elections. Right wing yahoos like GWB, Reagan lose by 30% each time they run.

angryed on May 4, 2012 at 2:58 PM

cs89 on May 4, 2012 at 2:44 PM

Well said. I’d call the RINOs that do that political surrender monkeys.

Reggie1971 on May 4, 2012 at 3:00 PM

These self serving jokers forget that their prime mission is to represent the wishes and demands of the people. Most of them have come to think that they are the end and not simply the means.

rplat on May 4, 2012 at 3:24 PM

Mitch did appear in ads for Lugar (for loyalty reasons) but one reason Lugar is losing is he abandoned the positive Mitch ads and went negative. Big time.

Lord of the Wings on May 4, 2012 at 3:25 PM

…That tactic won’t work. It merely leads to a climate where everyone who has an R in front of heir name votes down the appointee of every president with a D in front of his name and vice versa. The Constitution limits the senates role in confirming justices to the court. Barring some nutjob being picked, their job is to confirm…

TheBlueSite on May 4, 2012 at 2:48 PM

Ignorance? Mendacity? Or both?

Democrats long ago abandoned the tradition of showing deference to presidential nominations starting with Kennedy’s despicable slandering of Judge Bork. For Republicans like Dick Lugar to continue to show deference that is not reciprocated by Democrats means a federal judiciary and bureaucracy dominated by Democrats.

novaculus on May 4, 2012 at 3:28 PM

TheBlueLite RINO

APACHEWHOKNOWS on May 4, 2012 at 3:44 PM

Palin/West 2012
Go Sarah Go!
Go Mourdock GO!

Mitten and Lugar go home!

Pragmatic on May 4, 2012 at 3:49 PM

Mittens and Lugar go home . . .I mean (wherever home really is)!

Pragmatic on May 4, 2012 at 3:50 PM

The other guy in the Texas R race, Tom Leppart former mayor of Dallas, used to head up Turner Construction.

Built Schools ect. won low bid by haveing the most and lowest paid illegals. Enabled Dallas to be a scancuary city.

Guy is boring and a snake.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on May 4, 2012 at 3:50 PM

Bluesite – you don’t get it.

In the Lugar fight, both are career pols, but Mourdock is less career than Lugar.

We can complain about the last round about the Tea Party senate picks, but it seems to me they have learned from their previous mistakes. Lugar was a senatory from Indiana in name only and he was all to well engaged with the elite of DC to remember the people who sent him there in the first place.

I think Lugar is an honorable man – and yes his negative ads really backfired because instead of thinking of him as good guy, he portrayed himself as a stinking pol like all the rest.

Lugar is the poster child for what is wrong about DC. Good man, trapped in the luxary of power and influence and came to believe that DC was all important, as was his “public service”.

We are in a fight, a fight about what country we want to have – and Lugar didn’t understand that. You have to pick a side – either you are for DC and the perpetual joblessness and slow growth and crushing debt they have provided (the end result of the new dealism democrats) or you are not. There is no middle ground at this point. Lugar made his choice – it looks as if he will reap his reward.

Zomcon JEM on May 4, 2012 at 4:40 PM

I was willing to give Peggy Noonan a pass for her support for Obama, but has completely lost me in her support for Lugar.

Time has passed the old broad by and has become an establishment hack; a Frumish go along to get along hack with no convictions beyond “let’s all get along”.

rickyricardo on May 4, 2012 at 4:56 PM

The Tea Party, I’m convinced would vote down any justice, no matter how moderate and fair they were if Obama appointed him/her. It’s their MO.

TheBlueSite on May 4, 2012 at 2:48 PM

Hey puke, defend your take re: Alberto Gonzales

go back to kos

DanMan on May 4, 2012 at 4:59 PM

Let’s revisit that earlier thread on Mourdock and see how many “Well that’s it for Mourdock…Palin’s the kiss of death” the ‘bots had to throw out there.

ddrintn on May 4, 2012 at 5:04 PM

The Tea Party, I’m convinced would vote down any justice, no matter how moderate and fair they were if Obama appointed him/her. It’s their MO.

TheBlueSite on May 4, 2012 at 2:48 PM

So were Kagan and Sotomayor considered moderate? Qualified?

arnold ziffel on May 4, 2012 at 5:39 PM

The Young Guns are Eric Cantor’s creation. Cantor is a snake that cannot be trusted.

bw222 on May 4, 2012 at 12:35 PM

I would understand the alliance of Senate Republicans supporting a long-time colleague and respected ally, even one who so desperately needs retiring, like Lugar.

But I totally don’t get why Cantor is sticking his neck out of the House and what he hopes to gain from such a short-term play. The future is not Lugar.

Jaibones on May 4, 2012 at 7:08 PM

The Tea Party, I’m convinced would vote down any justice, no matter how moderate and fair they were if Obama appointed him/her. It’s their MO.

What an idiot. Facts mean nothing to liberals; it’s all about their whiny feelings. Bugger off.

Jaibones on May 4, 2012 at 7:09 PM

So Palin gave her nod to Mourdock and he surges 17 pts. Coincidence? Irrelevant? I think not.

Tarnsman on May 4, 2012 at 7:23 PM

Mourdock was beginning to pull ahead of Lugar thanks to the Tea Party. The ‘Cuda endorses him and now he’s pulling ahead dramatically despite efforts from the BORG to prop him up. The Tea Party isn’t dead and the ‘Cuda isn’t irrelevant.

BetseyRoss on May 4, 2012 at 7:46 PM

Mark Rubio, Rand Paul, Scott Brown all arrived in D.C. fresh and ready to go, and ran smack into the wall of the seniority systems prized by senators like Lugar and Kennedy and Hatch.

On Fox news Special Report on potential candidates for vice president, they showed that Paul Ryan, had to get special permission to skip over the seniority appointments to get his place as head of the budget committee.

This Seniority stuff is the thing of unions not merit.

Rubio, Paul, Brown, they have less POWER to initiate good things, and have to kowtow to McConnell, who is probably a great guy but not a Charismatic leader.

Brown arrived in DC with a mandate to stop the health care bill and do something about wall street corruption. The Seniority system would not produce a bill and I think some of the seniors, especially those not as good looking had no interest in fixing any of the problems with the TARP and respending the TARP money or making the banks be small enough not to fail, or broken up in pieces so they wouldn’t fail so bad.

The republicans told Scott Brown if he wanted a financial bill he would have to talk to the democrats…and then they condemned him when he did and wouldn’t help out.

The seniority system has corrupted the way the senate works, so even the dems get the most senior, Harry Reid, instead of someone who is good at working things out (duh, I dunno who…) that is how they got Pelosi too, she was around forever. Not fresh blood.

I am not saying that someone who just arrives in DC is prepared to take on Speaker or Majority leader, but within 9 months they better be.

I wish they would just retire on their own, and promote someone new, instead of hanging on past their worth.

Fleuries on May 4, 2012 at 7:49 PM

What’s wrong here? Don’t the people of Indiana understand that Lugar is the inevitable nominee?

Captain Obvious on May 4, 2012 at 7:52 PM

Another RINO killing? Hell yeah! Purge them all!

Doomsday on May 4, 2012 at 8:41 PM

What Karl Rove and his RINO buddies can’t comprehend is without the Tea Party, THEY ARE THIRD PARTY.The first thing an illiterate RINO will say is for the Tea Party ro run their own candidate. What a moron that says that has to understand is the Tea Party is the Anmerican spirit which they have long lost touch with and not a political party. That is why Lugar is begging demorats to cross lines and help him defeat what he has no conception of because he, like the other RINOs, are on their way out and it is only a matter of time.

volsense on May 4, 2012 at 8:45 PM

This news should wipe the cheesy grin off Lugar’s entitled face.

viking01 on May 4, 2012 at 9:58 PM

The last time I was this excited was when I was 13, looking at the next door neighbor girl’s house wishing she would come outside.

We should snailmail blast Lugar with assisted living home brochures.

platypus on May 4, 2012 at 10:19 PM

Hey, there are two Dicks facing off each other…. he he he, haw haw haw.

Omega_Rage on May 4, 2012 at 10:31 PM

♫♪ Old fart, old fart,
what ‘cha gonna do?
What ‘cha gonna do when they primary you? ♪♫

viking01 on May 4, 2012 at 10:54 PM

A Mourdock victory would be a triumph for the Tea Party, which also forced Orrin Hatch into a primary in Utah, if only barely. That would belie the media GOP narrative these days that the Tea Party has run out of gas. They obviously haven’t in Indiana.

Being from Michigan, I can state that Old Senators never die, they get reelected. Old, senile, mummified, that is prime cut to party bosses. They would elect dead Senators if they could get a proxy vote out of the DNA

or, in Senate lingo, there is wisdom and there is whizz-dom

entagor on May 4, 2012 at 11:18 PM

A loss would also be a rebuke to Daniels, and could hurt his standing in the GOP down the road with the grassroots and the establishment.

I don’t know if it’s what you were implying Ed, but I hope you didn’t mean that vis-a-vis Daniels’ prospects for a higher office.

Because if Daniels wasn’t willing to grab the brass ring this year, he has no shot going forward. Daniels is not a Christie or a Ryan or a Jindal or even an increasingly dubious Rubio. He’s a second stringer. It was now or never for him.

HitNRun on May 5, 2012 at 7:34 AM

My vote will certainly go to Mourdock. And a Palin endorsement has nothing to do with it. Sen. Lugar has increasingly voted against the best interests of the country and Indiana–Obama’s Supreme Court picks? What was he thinking? He quit representing Indiana long ago. I sent emails to his office and got canned responses–some had nothing to do with the questions I asked. The ads he is running are the absolute nastiest I have ever heard–way over the top. It is really not his age that is a factor–it is voting record and disregard for the people of his state–where, of course, he has not lived for years.

indychick on May 5, 2012 at 8:00 AM

Dear Hoosier Reader,

I’m sure it’s been said, but let’s reiterate just to make sure: YOU HAVE TO KILL LUGAR AT THE VOTING BOOTH. His career can’t somehow survive this. He’s calling for Democrats to vote for him, he’s on the team in name only now. He’s wounded, make sure you finish the job. For my part, I will send Mr. Mourdock some money this morning. Good luck one and all.

Sincerely,

Abiss on May 5, 2012 at 8:33 AM

Mourdock better not be another terrible Tea Party candidate like Joe Wilson, Sharron Angle and Christine O’Donnell. I would rather win the general with Lugar than lose with Mourdock!

bluegill on May 5, 2012 at 8:33 AM

indychick on May 5, 2012 at 8:00 AM

That’s spot-on. Lugar is to the GOP what Joe Lieberman is to the Democrats – not a great help, a RINO there ever was one.

I contend that there are cases where we have to hold our noses and vote for the more electable candidate, even if we don’t agree with him 100%. However, with Lugar supporting Obama whenever it mattered, he is no asset to the the party. In Murdock, there is a very credible alternative, and a chance to put one more conservative in the senate. Indiana is definitely “conservative enough” to pull this one off. Whether conservatives would go with Lugar again if he became the GOP nominee depends on how much of his voting record actually gets known – the more, the worse for Lugar. With Murdock, I have no such doubts.

Captain Obvious on May 5, 2012 at 2:40 PM

So, is Indiana going to screw it up like Alaska, Nevada and Maryland did in 2010?

Voter from WA State on May 5, 2012 at 12:13 PM

That depends I guess on whether or not the GOP and its flunkies spend the next 5 months or so campaigning against Mourdock as an unelectable joke, to the extent that Mourdock’s opponent doesn’t really have to psend a dime in campaign funds. Like Chris Coons, maybe.

ddrintn on May 5, 2012 at 3:41 PM

Eventually, all RINO-saurs become extinct . . .

BigAlSouth on May 5, 2012 at 5:05 PM

Wow! Sarah Palins’ endorsement is worth ten of Romneys’.

DannoJyd on May 5, 2012 at 11:59 PM

Palin Power is on play in Indiana.

Tea Party for the Win!

TheAlamos on May 7, 2012 at 6:56 AM

How old is Lugar?

400?

PappyD61 on May 4, 2012 at 1:27 PM

And that means Lugar is a most beloved RINO “treasure” that Establishment GOP wants to save at all costs.

Mourdoch for the Win!

Sadly, Obama 2012 (So Inevitable)!

Palin 2016!

TheAlamos on May 7, 2012 at 7:02 AM

Mourdochk for the Win!

Sadly, Obama 2012 (So Inevitable)!

Palin 2016!

TheAlamos on May 7, 2012 at 7:02 AM

Corrected.

TheAlamos on May 7, 2012 at 7:03 AM

So, is Indiana going to screw it up like Alaska, Nevada and Maryland did in 2010?

Voter from WA State on May 5, 2012 at 12:13 PM

Cherry este Worm Picking, Oi! In AK, it’s GOP Murkwkskesowoskekwsyrw who blew it up, sadly with help from the TP candidate himself! Plus, too many RINOs and confused TP members in AK, just like in the recent primaries!

In NV, the TP candidate blew it up too! Plus, Casino employees voted according to the dictate of their … Casino bosses, who were already bought by OMGReid!

In Maryland, who cares? It’s Maryland. BWAHAHAHA!

TheAlamos on May 7, 2012 at 7:09 AM

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