Go west, young man, go west! …Unless you’re into being successful

posted at 2:41 pm on May 3, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

I seem to recall, not too long ago, California Governor Jerry Brown saying that his state’s policies were about “California leading the country,” which, in turn, could serve as a model for “America potentially leading the world.” Yet again, Gov. Brown has provided an all-too-apt example of how these United States could indeed lead the world: by doing the precise opposite of whatever it is California is doing.

It’s a darn good thing California has all of those beautiful vistas and fantastic recreation to recommend itself, ’cause it doesn’t seem to have much else going for it. In an annual survey, business executives have ranked California as the absolute worst state in the country for doing business for the eighth year in a row:

The survey considered responses from 650 business leaders, who graded states on factors such as taxes, regulations, living environment and more. …

California narrowly edged out New York in what the survey called “the ninth circle of business hell,” sharing the bottom five spots with Illinois, Massachusetts and Michigan. …

Its 10.9% unemployment rate is only lower than Nevada’s and Rhode Island’s. A third of U.S. welfare recipients live in California, the report noted. High state taxes and bundles of red tape make operating a business in the state unaffordable to many companies, critics say.

Last year, 254 California companies moved some or all of their work and jobs elsewhere — 26% more than 2010. Most chief executives in Silicon Valley said they won’t expand in the state, according to the survey.

Once the Golden State of opportunity, businesses and residents have more recently been fleeing California’s legislation-happy climes in droves. More than 1.5 million jumped ship between 2001 and 2009, instead moving to more business-friendly locales like the survey’s number-one state, Texas (where unemployment currently sits below the national average — don’t mess).

Try as they might, what with their well-touted forays into subsidized green energy, spectacular feats of nanny-statism and the like, California remains an example of the havoc that ideological mismanagement and over-regulation can wreak on a regional economy. While their heavily left-leaning policies might be able to eke out an existence while dragging down the rest of the nation, their habits aren’t sustainable in the long term, and they’ve got the debt and deficit woes to prove it.

This is exactly why federalism is so brilliant — and why we should cut down on the federal bureaucracy and make better use of it.


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When all of the good people split California, I hope that it falls into the ocean.

OhEssYouCowboys on May 3, 2012 at 2:43 PM

$hit… here come all the mindless California bashers….

SWalker on May 3, 2012 at 2:44 PM

MSNBC – Breaking News

OhEssYouCowboys faces pending hate crime charge.

Eric Holder to personally persecute.

OhEssYouCowboys on May 3, 2012 at 2:44 PM

When all of the good people split California, I hope that it falls into the ocean.

OhEssYouCowboys on May 3, 2012 at 2:43 PM

..if you could nuke SF and LA (leaving OC, where TWP lives), California would be the reddest state going.

The War Planner on May 3, 2012 at 2:45 PM

..if you could nuke SF and LA (leaving OC, where TWP lives), California would be the reddest state going.

The War Planner on May 3, 2012 at 2:45 PM

Sigh… This is so true (San Diego County here) but damn I get tired of all the uber Hate spewed at California.

SWalker on May 3, 2012 at 2:47 PM

..if you could nuke SF and LA (leaving OC, where TWP lives), California would be the reddest state going.

The War Planner on May 3, 2012 at 2:45 PM

Because of The Real Housewives Of Orange County, I’m hoping that the OC is hurled into the ocean, too.

MSNBC – Breaking News

OhEssYouCowboys faces second pending hate crime charge.

OhEssYouCowboys on May 3, 2012 at 2:48 PM

California has net negative immigration for the first time in recorded history – people who can get out are getting out.

California should be by far the richest and most successful state in the US, but the locals elected truly deranged idiots for 40 years and pooped in their own back yard.

Re-electing Moonbeam was the signal for the end times.

CorporatePiggy on May 3, 2012 at 2:48 PM

The certified members of the lunatic-left d-cRAT socialist club of morally, ethically, socially, politically and fiscally bankrupt states: new york, california, massachusetts and illinois are blindly careening down the lunatic-left “Road to Hell”. MD along with CT, WA, RI, DE, VT, HI, NC and OR are currently just charter members of this horrific “club”, but each is trying hard under their lunatic-left rulers to achieve “certified member” status. All of them are fully committed to flushing the entire US down the drain with them.

So, it’s NOT SURPRISING that most of these cesspools rank at the bottom for favorable business environment.

TeaPartyNation on May 3, 2012 at 2:48 PM

I’m just hoping the majority of states can avoid being forced to bail out these “fiscal time bomb” states.

tommyboy on May 3, 2012 at 2:48 PM

Sigh… This is so true (San Diego County here) but damn I get tired of all the uber Hate spewed at California.

SWalker on May 3, 2012 at 2:47 PM

California should be cut in half.

NotCoach on May 3, 2012 at 2:49 PM

SWalker on May 3, 2012 at 2:47 PM

As a native California girl…it is deserved…with a few exceptions. :)

bazil9 on May 3, 2012 at 2:49 PM

P.S. There is no redder state than Okie.

OhEssYouCowboys on May 3, 2012 at 2:49 PM

what happens when an entire state goes bankrupt? Illinois or California will be the first to do it and it should happen pretty soon.

DanMan on May 3, 2012 at 2:49 PM

The person who decided to put a red star in California’s flag was very prescient.

Mark1971 on May 3, 2012 at 2:50 PM

$hit… here come all the mindless California bashers….

SWalker on May 3, 2012 at 2:44 PM

Mindless? been there, worked there, got out of there. Not mindless. But hey, if California works for you…

cozmo on May 3, 2012 at 2:50 PM

..if you could nuke SF and LA (leaving OC, where TWP lives), California would be the reddest state going.

The War Planner on May 3, 2012 at 2:45 PM

…have found this to be true!…Look at some of our people here at Hot Air!…I have family there and they are ‘severely’ conservative…it’s just that the inmates out man the guards…in the asylum.

KOOLAID2 on May 3, 2012 at 2:51 PM

but damn I get tired of all the uber Hate spewed at California.

SWalker on May 3, 2012 at 2:47 PM

We kind of get tired of all the uber California spewed back at us. I mean in the end, who’s going to have to pay for Californians inability to govern themselves?

MNHawk on May 3, 2012 at 2:51 PM

Seattle, Tacoma, Portland, Eugene, San Francisco, Sacramento, San Jose, Los Angeles.

There’s the west coast problem. That 1% is ruining our region for the 99%.

Suck it, Occupy.

Scribbler on May 3, 2012 at 2:51 PM

While their heavily left-leaning policies might be able to eke out an existence while dragging down the rest of the nation, their habits aren’t sustainable in the long term, and they’ve got the debt and deficit woes to prove it.

This is exactly why federalism is so brilliant — and why we should cut down on the federal bureaucracy and make better use of it.

True federalism would let CA go bankrupt, with no bailouts.

That’s not going to happen, so it’s more like socialism.

Therefore, CA policies will continue with abandon. They’re continue on this pass until the nation stops bailing them out.

WisRich on May 3, 2012 at 2:53 PM

First moved out to California back when Moonbeam’s dad was governor…and the place was taking off…big time. Moved back about a decade later…was amblin’ along fairly well. Actually a nice place to live…Sacramento, the Bay Area, Monterey…up in Superior California.

Wouldn’t move back today.

Self-inflicted major wound they gave themselves…trying to be all things to all people.

Wonder what the correlation of California’s decline and the influx of collegiate liberals into Silicon Valley is?

[Or the Hispanification of Lower California?]

coldwarrior on May 3, 2012 at 2:53 PM

pass s/b path

WisRich on May 3, 2012 at 2:53 PM

SWalker on May 3, 2012 at 2:47 PM

As a native California girl…it is deserved…with a few exceptions. :)

bazil9 on May 3, 2012 at 2:49 PM

Yes, if California had closed it’s borders to the other 49 states back in 1959 it wouldn’t be effed up like it is now. Yea, that’s right, 50% of all California residents come from the other 49 states and brought their socialist BS with them.

SWalker on May 3, 2012 at 2:54 PM

heh 2 of those bottom 5 states are the “home states” of Mitt Romney don’t worry California you’re going to have a lot more company soon.

bannor on May 3, 2012 at 2:54 PM

P.S. There is no redder state than Okie.

OhEssYouCowboys on May 3, 2012 at 2:49 PM

Only Texan’s and Okie’s need read this:

Oklahoma is red from sucking so hard to keep Texas from abandoning it.

cozmo on May 3, 2012 at 2:54 PM

The bear on California’s flag is a symbol of its market.

The bulls have all moved to Texas.

Steve Z on May 3, 2012 at 2:54 PM

Look on the bright side Calie:

You still are #1 in porn, abortion, gaydar, and pot-heads

Eph on May 3, 2012 at 2:54 PM

Bottom 15 states all went for the village idiot in 2008.

Eph on May 3, 2012 at 2:55 PM

We kind of get tired of all the uber California spewed back at us. I mean in the end, who’s going to have to pay for Californians inability to govern themselves?

MNHawk on May 3, 2012 at 2:51 PM

Hey, if you had kept your damned socialist home, or not taught them to be socialists in the first place California wouldn’t be effed up like it is now.

SWalker on May 3, 2012 at 2:56 PM

cozmo on May 3, 2012 at 2:54 PM

Sorry, Cozmo, not gonna bite. I happen to love Texas. Should it secede, I hope that it takes Okie with it.

OhEssYouCowboys on May 3, 2012 at 2:56 PM

SWalker on May 3, 2012 at 2:56 PM

I cannot put my finger on the name right now, but somebody else always blames others too.

cozmo on May 3, 2012 at 2:57 PM

To you in other states: Thanks. Your taxpayer $s will be used to bail us in California out. We’re grateful.

hahaha… not really. Progressive Californians will not be grateful. To them this will just be another purposeful stride to complete socialism.

theCork on May 3, 2012 at 2:57 PM

A climate where business is king, no regulations or protections, doesn’t sound that great. Plus, if you want that you’d have to live in…Texas. *shudder*

inthemiddle on May 3, 2012 at 3:00 PM

A climate where business is dead, 100% regulations and 0% tax payer protections, doesn’t sound that great. Plus, if you want that you’d have to live in…California. *shudder*

Eph on May 3, 2012 at 3:01 PM

But hey, if California works for you…

cozmo on May 3, 2012 at 2:50 PM

Ha. California never works for anyone. If you are in California, you are working for California.

steebo77 on May 3, 2012 at 3:01 PM

SWalker on May 3, 2012 at 2:54 PM

My dad’s family was there before 59. Don’t preach to me..I live in Fl. All our residents come from the other 49 states, the islands and S America.
Cali has some great beauty and climate but I will never live there again. My living family has also left.

Not bashing you personally.

Lived there,seen it, done it.

bazil9 on May 3, 2012 at 3:02 PM

Sidebar:

Don’t use the term:

S * E * C * E * D * E

HotAir will not post it.

Ain’t that great?

OhEssYouCowboys on May 3, 2012 at 3:02 PM

Yes, if California had closed it’s borders to the other 49 states back in 1959 it wouldn’t be effed up like it is now. Yea, that’s right, 50% of all California residents come from the other 49 states and brought their socialist BS with them.

SWalker on May 3, 2012 at 2:54 PM

Don’t think it is folks from the other 49 that are your problem.
Borders, yes. Other 49, not so much.

Jabberwock on May 3, 2012 at 3:03 PM

Gov Brown should tax abortion at $10,000 per procedure.

I bet the state deficit would disappear within one month

Eph on May 3, 2012 at 3:03 PM

cozmo on May 3, 2012 at 2:54 PM

Cozmo, sorry, but I’m not biting. I love Texas. She’s a great state, even if she should really be called Baja Oklahoma.

OhEssYouCowboys on May 3, 2012 at 3:04 PM

Hey! We’re gonna tax all those EVIL millionaires and take all their money. And then we’re gonna be the envy of everyone when we get our “bullet train”! And it’s all gonna be paid for by “investors”, and will be self-sustaining!

Jerry Brown is a senile old fool, looking for a “legacy” other than being called Moonbeam.

You can tell when Jerry is spouting bullshit, just like Joey Biden, he starts talking real fast.

GarandFan on May 3, 2012 at 3:05 PM

MNHawk on May 3, 2012 at 2:51 PM

Damn you MNHawk, why didn’t you keep your socialists home! ;)

bazil9 on May 3, 2012 at 3:05 PM

I blame Scott McKenzie. It all started with that wretched song.

Mason on May 3, 2012 at 3:05 PM

When we have finally constructed our socialistic utopian society in California, you rightwing nut jobs will beg to join us.

Socialist LIBtard on May 3, 2012 at 12:00 PM twilightzone

Dream on!

Gunlock Bill on May 3, 2012 at 3:06 PM

I have to shoulder some of the blame. When I turned 18 I cast my first statewide vote in CA for Jerry-the-Nutberry Brown. I didn’t know what a flake he was back then but I should have educated myself. I most humbly apologize. I’ve grown wiser since then…and moved to the midwest.

Extrafishy on May 3, 2012 at 3:07 PM

Don’t think it is folks from the other 49 that are your problem.
Borders, yes. Other 49, not so much.

Jabberwock on May 3, 2012 at 3:03 PM

I’m guessing that’s because you’re not from California and don’t actually know the statistical make-up of California’s citizens. Last year was the first time since 1959 that Native Californian’s were the same percentage of California’s population as were those who had moved here from other states in the Union. And no, it doesn’t include California’s illegal immigrants.

SWalker on May 3, 2012 at 3:07 PM

OhEssYouCowboys on May 3, 2012 at 3:04 PM

Darn, I happen to like Oklahoma too…Go Sooners!

cozmo on May 3, 2012 at 3:07 PM

So, it’s NOT SURPRISING that most of these cesspools rank at the bottom for favorable business environment.

TeaPartyNation on May 3, 2012 at 2:48 PM

NC ain’t dead yet. I’m fighting those a$$hat liberals to the bitter end.

Turtle317 on May 3, 2012 at 3:10 PM

Mason on May 3, 2012 at 3:05 PM

As was pointed out to me on another thread…let me paraphrase…nobody under 55 has ever heard of Scott Mackenzie.

coldwarrior on May 3, 2012 at 3:11 PM

I keep reading articles like this. California is teh worst!

I agree.

However, All the pot banging in the world is not going to change anything here. The Democrats and public unions have won. I would love to believe otherwise but the sad fact is that California has enough international money and super-rich residents to pay the taxes. Sure, perhaps the middle-class is shrinking. Democrats don’t need the middle-class. Letting the middle-class leave is a fair trade to have the environmental regulations and welfare-state policies that make everyone feel better here.

It’s a beautiful state with enough demand for lifestyle that Sacramento can continue unabated towards a state totalitarianism.

They’ve won here. If you want to fight for something, do it in Colorado or New Mexico or some place where you have a fighting chance.

hisfrogness on May 3, 2012 at 3:11 PM

NC ain’t dead yet. I’m fighting those a$$hat liberals to the bitter end.

Turtle317 on May 3, 2012 at 3:10 PM

Amen brother… Sooner or later they will run out of other peoples money, get mugged by reality and grow the eff up… We just have to outlast them…

SWalker on May 3, 2012 at 3:12 PM

Darn, I happen to like Oklahoma too…Go Sooners!

cozmo on May 3, 2012 at 3:07 PM

LOL, you bastage.

I graduated from both oSu and ou – I choose to be orange and black.

o:O)

OhEssYouCowboys on May 3, 2012 at 3:12 PM

They’ve won here. If you want to fight for something, do it in Colorado or New Mexico or some place where you have a fighting chance.

hisfrogness on May 3, 2012 at 3:11 PM

Piss off coward… This Conservative Californian aint surrendering or running ever.

SWalker on May 3, 2012 at 3:14 PM

Does Julia take up permanent residence in the infantile mind of Obama, or does she only vacation there and reside in California the rest of the time?

NotCoach on May 3, 2012 at 3:14 PM

A climate where business is king, no regulations or protections, doesn’t sound that great.

inthemiddle on May 3, 2012 at 3:00 PM

Because there are only 2 options, right? Excesive regulations and NO regulations. Moron.

angryed on May 3, 2012 at 3:15 PM

OhEssYouCowboys on May 3, 2012 at 3:12 PM

I have a beef against OSU because my sister passed up Annapolis to be Orange and Black.

cozmo on May 3, 2012 at 3:15 PM

I’m guessing that’s because you’re not from California and don’t actually know the statistical make-up of California’s citizens. Last year was the first time since 1959 that Native Californian’s were the same percentage of California’s population as were those who had moved here from other states in the Union. And no, it doesn’t include California’s illegal immigrants.

SWalker on May 3, 2012 at 3:07 PM

You guessed correctly. NY actually. So I am on pretty thin ice as it is.
How’d the natives get back to par ?
They stay as the temps leave for northwest ?

Jabberwock on May 3, 2012 at 3:16 PM

I have a beef against OSU because my sister passed up Annapolis to be Orange and Black.

cozmo on May 3, 2012 at 3:15 PM

Don’t fault your sister for having brains.

Sidebar:

It’s my understanding that, other than the service academies and Texas A&M, oSu has had more graduates who went on to be admirals and generals, than any other university.

OhEssYouCowboys on May 3, 2012 at 3:17 PM

How’d the natives get back to par ?

Jabberwock on May 3, 2012 at 3:16 PM

My guess is that the non-native “interlopers” from the other states moved elsewhere to get real jobs and not have to pay such obscene taxes?

coldwarrior on May 3, 2012 at 3:19 PM

State motto needs to change from Eureka to BOHICA(Bend over here it comes again). spent my honeymoon there for a week, great place to visit, wouldn’t want to live there.

gsherin on May 3, 2012 at 3:19 PM

OhEssYouCowboys on May 3, 2012 at 3:17 PM

You are easier to pick on. She will beat me up.

cozmo on May 3, 2012 at 3:19 PM

$hit… here come all the mindless California bashers…. – SWalker

It is not as though the bashing is undeserved. Liberal Californians have brought this on themselves as they elect and re- elect one loony liberal after another. They are reaping the fruits of their own bad choices. It is just unfortunate that those who haven’t voted for these people are subjected to the results of the liberal policies and that such a beautiful state is now in such a mess that people who are disgusted are fleeing if they possibly can.

lukjuj on May 3, 2012 at 3:21 PM

You guessed correctly. NY actually. So I am on pretty thin ice as it is.
How’d the natives get back to par ?
They stay as the temps leave for northwest ?

Jabberwock on May 3, 2012 at 3:16 PM

After obliterating California with all of their dreams of socialist utopia, which turned around and bite their a$$’s off, they fled back to the states they had come from in the first place. The vast majority of the middle class flight out of California that everyone is talking about aren’t the Native Californian’s, their the other 49 state transplants fleeing the hell they created here. The percentage of Native Californian’s fleeing the state is only 3 or 4 percent.

SWalker on May 3, 2012 at 3:21 PM

Don’t think it is folks from the other 49 that are your problem.
Borders, yes. Other 49, not so much.

Jabberwock on May 3, 2012 at 3:03 PM

…quien?…I wonder?

KOOLAID2 on May 3, 2012 at 3:21 PM

hisfrogness on May 3, 2012 at 3:11 PM

I agree completely.

Hollywood isn’t going anywhere. And so people who want to be in the movie business will continue to go there. Same with high tech in SV. If you want to be at the cutting edge, you have to be in NorCal. Plus tourism will continue to thrive since there is a lot of stuff to see and do in the state.

There’s a built in level of money that will never leave CA no matter how bad the fiscal situation gets.

angryed on May 3, 2012 at 3:22 PM

My guess is that the non-native “interlopers” from the other states moved elsewhere to get real jobs and not have to pay such obscene taxes?

coldwarrior on May 3, 2012 at 3:19 PM

Yup, pretty much…

SWalker on May 3, 2012 at 3:22 PM

As a life-long resident of New York, I proudly accept the silver medal for coming in as the second worst place to be successful.

My most hearty congrats to my friends from the Golden State, but the heart of a competitor beats within the Empire State:

We’re going for the gold next year!!!

ironbill on May 3, 2012 at 3:23 PM

..if you could nuke SF and LA (leaving OC, where TWP lives), California would be the reddest state going.

The War Planner on May 3, 2012 at 2:45 PM

How about Sacramento? Isn’t it a wretched hive of scum and villany?

Oldnuke on May 3, 2012 at 3:23 PM

Another “Modest Proposal”

I just had a flash of, I won’t call it genius, but perhaps just a good idea. What we need to do is link the destruction of California with a concept that Liberals will have to accept ideologically. When they are confronted with a principle that requires them to annhiliate themselves, history shows that they will do so. They’re crazy like that.

So, environmentalism requires us to harness all available natural energy sources other than petroleum. Think of the untapped geothermal and kinetic energy energy that would be released if the San Andreas Fault were to experience a, let’s call it a “separation event.” Liberals like euphamisms (and they can use this to corral their sheep-like populace into “disposal fields” pending said event). We could also market the “natural release” that Gaia would experience once this stress was removed, and we could claim that the Earth would be “restored” to a more harmonious balance without all that CRAZY STRESS. We could also link this up with all the pot use in California, claiming it was because of the geothermal stress that people need so much pot in Cali, and we could release extra stores of it to get the populace even more tractable.

Once we had mined the Fault and triggered a catestrophic land-mass separation the overaall national economy would experience an uptic. That’s another thing, we could guilt the Californians into accepting their watery fate as in the national economic interest. They would have to be given a lot of pot in the short term so they didn’t flee the state while we were getting ready, but that seems like a pretty fool-proof idea, if I do say so myself.

Herald of Woe on May 3, 2012 at 3:23 PM

You are easier to pick on. She will beat me up.

cozmo on May 3, 2012 at 3:19 PM

Brains and brawn, huh?

OhEssYouCowboys on May 3, 2012 at 3:23 PM

How about Sacramento? Isn’t it a wretched hive of scum and villany?

Oldnuke on May 3, 2012 at 3:23 PM

Even Satan might think twice before moving to Sacramento… Yea, it’s that bad…

SWalker on May 3, 2012 at 3:24 PM

This is exactly why federalism is so brilliant — and why we should cut down on the federal bureaucracy and make better use of it.

Governor Moonbeam will soon institute a departure “fee” (because taxes still can’t get raised in California without a 2/3rd majority…) that will consist of an initial “fee” of $10,000 plus 2% of your past ten year’s worth of annual income (gross, not net) for the privileged of having “visited” the state and used its wonderful resources…

powerpickle on May 3, 2012 at 3:30 PM

SWalker, might want to give the California Nativist line a rest….what made California vibrant and successful was the immigration. What is ruining it is the political theory(ies) in vogue there. Those are simply foreign imports, Jerry Brown, Tom Hayden, I think are NATIVE Californians.

JFKY on May 3, 2012 at 3:33 PM

It happens every day in CA and yet the general population remains blindly obedient to their Democrat overlords:

To paraphrase Joe Biden – that’s a BFD.

grahsco on May 3, 2012 at 3:34 PM

A climate where business is king, no regulations or protections, doesn’t sound that great.

inthemiddle on May 3, 2012 at 3:00 PM

Because there are only 2 options, right? Excesive regulations and NO regulations. Moron.

angryed on May 3, 2012 at 3:15 PM

Angryed: Mark your calendar. I agree with you. Emphatically in this case. I am tired of those who want regulation declaring that if you don’t have all regulation, you have no regulation. Some wise regulation is always needed for public safety and to keep a level playing field. Most regulations at state level are semi-union regulations to protect the people from wild rampaging cosmetologists, barbers, taxi drivers, etc.

To you knee jerk Texicans, Oklahoma was around before Texas. We were Lousiana Purchase, 1803. You were Mexico until 18-unptiump.

Old Country Boy on May 3, 2012 at 3:35 PM

t happens every day in CA and yet the general population remains blindly obedient to their Democrat overlords:

To paraphrase Joe Biden – that’s a BFD.

grahsco on May 3, 2012 at 3:34 PM

Link didn’t show up before:

http://www.thecalifornian.com/article/20120503/NEWS01/205030311/Capital-One-moves-out-Salinas-lays-off-850-workers?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|Frontpage

grahsco on May 3, 2012 at 3:35 PM

Governor Moonbeam will soon institute a departure “fee” (because taxes still can’t get raised in California without a 2/3rd majority…) that will consist of an initial “fee” of $10,000 plus 2% of your past ten year’s worth of annual income (gross, not net) for the privileged of having “visited” the state and used its wonderful resources

You laugh but within the last 4 years, IIRC California had a proposed Initiative that would impose a Wealth Tax AND a substantial penalty for those exporting their wealth from California. It’s very hard to parody California.

JFKY on May 3, 2012 at 3:36 PM

There’s a built in level of money that will never leave CA no matter how bad the fiscal situation gets.

angryed on May 3, 2012 at 3:22 PM

You could never be so wrong in your life. The state government is sucking every last dime out of this fledgling economy, and it is on the brink of bankruptcy. Please take the blue pill and go away.

Rovin on May 3, 2012 at 3:37 PM

Cali is not even a good place to visit anymore.

docflash on May 3, 2012 at 3:37 PM

My wife’s family is all from California. On her dad’s side she’s 7th generation. Deep roots throughout the state. She keeps saying she wants to move there. I keep saying over my dead body. But every time I visit the inlaws and see that gorgeous sunset from the hills of Santa Barbara my reluctance to live there mellows some more.

angryed on May 3, 2012 at 3:38 PM

The War Planner on May 3, 2012 at 2:45 PM

Because of The Real Housewives Of Orange County, I’m hoping that the OC is hurled into the ocean, too.

MSNBC – Breaking News

OhEssYouCowboys faces second pending hate crime charge.

OhEssYouCowboys on May 3, 2012 at 2:48 PM

..OH NOES! If you do, I gotta dust off my 9’6″ G&S and paddle for Bakersfield!

The War Planner on May 3, 2012 at 3:38 PM

powerpickle on May 3, 2012 at 3:30 PM

The Soviets did that in the 1980′s and forced refuzniks and other mostly Jewish emigres to repay the “state” prior to being allowed to leave. Cash was collected right at the airport.

Moonbeam has actually proposed this?

The socialist circle is almost complete.

Next an anti-fascist protective barrier running from Crescent City to the Nevada line and south to Yuma?

coldwarrior on May 3, 2012 at 3:39 PM

My wife’s family is all from California. On her dad’s side she’s 7th generation. Deep roots throughout the state. She keeps saying she wants to move there. I keep saying over my dead body. But every time I visit the inlaws and see that gorgeous sunset from the hills of Santa Barbara my reluctance to live there mellows some more.

angryed on May 3, 2012 at 3:38 PM

..hold that thought, truc.

The War Planner on May 3, 2012 at 3:39 PM

The War Planner on May 3, 2012 at 3:39 PM

“Bazinga!” :-)

coldwarrior on May 3, 2012 at 3:43 PM

I hate this kinda biased nonsense. The poorest States in the union are red States including my home State Tennessee.

While their heavily left-leaning policies might be able to eke out an existence while dragging down the rest of the nation

A liberal could easily make the same point.

Whatever.

celticdefender on May 3, 2012 at 3:47 PM

But every time I visit the inlaws and see that gorgeous sunset from the hills of Santa Barbara my reluctance to live there mellows some more.

angryed on May 3, 2012 at 3:38 PM

Stay the eff wherever you already are, we got enough lunatics here already, were just now getting them to go back to wherever the he11 they came from…

SWalker on May 3, 2012 at 3:50 PM

Stay the eff wherever you already are, we got enough lunatics here already, were just now getting them to go back to wherever the he11 they came from…

SWalker on May 3, 2012 at 3:50 PM

Get the f**k over yourself dude. You’re not that special. Really.

angryed on May 3, 2012 at 3:51 PM

The bear on California’s flag is a symbol of its market.

The bulls have all moved to Texas.

Steve Z on May 3, 2012 at 2:54 PM

Nicely turned comment :-)

Pithy

+100

cane_loader on May 3, 2012 at 3:52 PM

Get the f**k over yourself dude. You’re not that special. Really.

angryed on May 3, 2012 at 3:51 PM

ed is ANGRY!
GRRRR!!

cane_loader on May 3, 2012 at 3:53 PM

Go west – until you hit a state that borders the Pacific – then go back across that border, stop and go to work. If you screw up and get into a state that abuts the ocean, then make damn sure you don’t settle in a county that borders the ocean. Something about that water has screwed up the collective mentality of enough people to screw up parts of our life that must be settled democratically.

Bernfp on May 3, 2012 at 3:53 PM

I hate this kinda biased nonsense. The poorest States in the union are red States including my home State Tennessee.

celticdefender on May 3, 2012 at 3:47 PM

Depends how you define “poor”. Usually it’s by median income of a state. And sure, CA is at the top of “rich” states. But what good is making $100K in California, if it costs $750K to buy a decent house, whereas in “poor” TN you only make $40K but the same house costs $175K? Who is more poor and more rich?

It’s all relative.

angryed on May 3, 2012 at 3:54 PM

ed is ANGRY!
GRRRR!!

cane_loader on May 3, 2012 at 3:53 PM

I get angry some times. You stay stupid always.

angryed on May 3, 2012 at 3:55 PM

Get the f**k over yourself dude. You’re not that special. Really.

angryed on May 3, 2012 at 3:51 PM

BWAHAHAH… Stay home liberal wiener…

SWalker on May 3, 2012 at 3:56 PM

I smell a flame thread

Emotions run high because native Californians watched their state get washed away by a foreign invasion, while the federal governmnet stood by and let it happen.

Other Americans can’t/won’t understand it until it happens to them

And it’s happening right now. We are being overrun in south Louisiana with a wave of migrant Mexicans from other states.

Our #1 national security issue isn’t Afghanistan.

It’s the foreign invasion of America, and the complete;y failed country on our border.

Before this is done, we may end up having to invade northern Mexico and clearing it out.

Seriously.

cane_loader on May 3, 2012 at 3:57 PM

Get the f**k over yourself dude. You’re not that special. Really.

angryed on May 3, 2012 at 3:51 PM

..it appears that BellicoseEd has soiled himself.

Feel the love, Ed, feel the love.

The War Planner on May 3, 2012 at 3:57 PM

I get angry some times. You stay stupid always.

angryed on May 3, 2012 at 3:55 PM

lol

My momma always said, “stupid is as stupid does!”

:D

cane_loader on May 3, 2012 at 3:58 PM

Link didn’t show up before:

http://www.thecalifornian.com/article/20120503/NEWS01/205030311/Capital-One-moves-out-Salinas-lays-off-850-workers?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|Frontpage

grahsco on May 3, 2012 at 3:35 PM

I read the entire article believing that at some point the reporter would get around to telling me exactly WHY this bank is moving from California to South Dakota. No dice. Crappy reporting. AP…No surprise there.

Tomolena1 on May 3, 2012 at 3:58 PM

I get angry some times. You stay stupid always.

angryed on May 3, 2012 at 3:55 PM

..and instantly goes into Pee Wee Herman mode.

The War Planner on May 3, 2012 at 3:58 PM

BWAHAHAH… Stay home liberal wiener…

SWalker on May 3, 2012 at 3:56 PM

Poor little right wing lunatic. He’s upset that he’s the last of the wingnuts left in his state. Maybe you can move to Utah and join your kind over there.

angryed on May 3, 2012 at 3:59 PM

In honor of Ed, I am changing out my toilet right now. I’m so full of it that it broke last night :)

/true, actually!

cane_loader on May 3, 2012 at 4:00 PM

“Bazinga!” :-)

coldwarrior on May 3, 2012 at 3:43 PM

..thank you, thank you, thank you. I’ll be in town all week. Try the veal and be sure to tip your waitresses!

The War Planner on May 3, 2012 at 4:01 PM

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