Mullen: Hey, maybe we shouldn’t be making the bin Laden mission a political football

posted at 8:41 am on May 1, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Last night, NBC’s Rock Center got an exclusive and unprecedented look at the Situation Room as part of the anniversary celebration over the death of Osama bin Laden — and as part of Barack Obama’s attempt to spike the football again over the success of the mission.  In the middle of all this congratulatory back-slapping,  former chair of the Joint Chiefs Admiral Mike Mullen told Brian Williams that it might be an insult to the men who actually carried out the mission for people to turn it into a political baseball bat for the upcoming election:

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“Well, I worry about it, just because it’s the political season,” Adm. Mullen tells Williams. “And from my perspective, the president’s support, the decision that he made, and obviously, the result stand alone in terms of the kind of call presidents have to make and he made it. I do worry a great deal that this time of year that somehow this gets spun into election politics. I can assure you that those individuals who risk their lives–the last thing in the world that they want is to be spun into that. So I’m hoping that that doesn’t happen.”

NBC News was given unprecedented access to the White House Situation Room for its interview with Adm. Mullen, President Obama, Vice President Biden, Secretary Clinton, and many of the other individuals who appear in the iconic photo taken the night bin Laden was killed.

But the interview comes amid criticism from many on the Republican side, in the media, and even among Navy SEALs that the Obama campaign has already overly politicized the president’s historic achievement. Earlier today, Mitt Romney rebuffed a recent Obama campaign ad suggesting that the former Massachusetts governor would not have given the order to execute bin Laden.

Ya think? The Daily Mail reports that other special forces are already annoyed on behalf of their brethren on that mission, and don’t believe it was all that tough a decision anyway:

Ryan Zinke, a former Commander in the US Navy who spent 23 years as a SEAL and led a SEAL Team 6 assault unit, said: ‘The decision was a no brainer. I applaud him for making it but I would not overly pat myself on the back for making the right call.

‘I think every president would have done the same. He is justified in saying it was his decision but the preparation, the sacrifice – it was a broader team effort.’

Mr Zinke, who is now a Republican state senator in Montana, added that MR Obama was exploiting bin Laden’s death for his re-election bid. ‘The President and his administration are positioning him as a war president using the SEALs as ammunition. It was predictable.’

Michael Ramirez picks up on the theme in his Investors Business Daily editorial cartoon today:

Obama would have been better served by taking Admiral Mullen’s advice.  Had he just stuck with “I got bin Laden,” there would have been no retort; it would have been an unanswerable argument in the election.  By pushing the accomplishment into the argument that no one else could have gotten bin Laden but himself — and with Joe Biden offering the ridiculous argument that it was the most audacious military plan in 500 years (D-Day? Pfft — pikers!) — it opens up not the issue of bin Laden, but of this president’s oversized ego and his need to make everything about himself.  Even the men who actually carried out the mission get left behind in service to Obama’s need to be the center of attention.  That’s not leadership, and it’s going to turn off a lot of voters.

Former Attorney General Michael Mukasey agrees:

While contemplating how the killing of bin Laden reflects on the president, consider the way he emphasized his own role in the hazardous mission accomplished by SEAL Team 6:

“I directed Leon Panetta, the director of the CIA, to make the killing or capture of bin Laden the top priority . . . even as I continued our broader effort. . . . Then, after years of painstaking work by my intelligence community I was briefed . . . I met repeatedly with my national security team . . . And finally last week I determined that I had enough intelligence to take action. . . . Today, at my direction . . .”

That seems a jarring formulation coming from a man who, when first elected, was asked which president he would model himself on and replied, Lincoln. …

That is not to say that great leaders, including presidents, have not placed themselves at the center of great events. But generally it has been to accept responsibility for failure.

Lincoln took responsibility in August 1862 for failures that had been attributed to General George McClellan—eventually sacked for incompetence—and Secretary of War Edwin Stanton. Lincoln told a crowd that McClellan was not at fault for seeking more than Stanton could give, and “I stand here, as justice requires me to do, to take upon myself what has been charged upon the Secretary of War.”

Dwight Eisenhower is famous for having penned a statement to be issued in anticipation of the failure of the Normandy invasion that reads in relevant part: “My decision to attack at this time and place was based upon the best information available. The troops, the air and the Navy did all that bravery and devotion to duty could do. If any blame attaches to the attempt it is mine alone.”

It’s bad enough that Obama personally bragged so much about it at the time.  On the one-year anniversary, shouldn’t the celebration be about the victory and the men who actually carried it out?  I’m curious as to whether Eisenhower ever spent the anniversary of D-Day — which really does qualify as one of the most audacious military plans in centuries — telling people how he’d personally beaten the Germans on that day.  Somehow, I doubt it … not even in an election year.

Update: I had identified Michael Mukasey as a former director of the CIA.  He was the former Attorney General.  First rule of blogging: check scorecards when writing prior to sufficient caffeination.  Thanks to Larry J for the correction.


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22044 on May 1, 2012 at 10:24 AM

 
Ha. I give. I forgot about Carlton. In all seriousness, it takes someone who is a pretty good dancer to mimic bad dancing that well.

rogerb on May 1, 2012 at 10:44 AM

TheDel Dolemonte on May 1, 2012 at 9:09 AM

Yes you are right. There is an article in The Daily Beast with a 180 degree different opinion. They described the ad as a “punch right into the square jaw of Romney” and then had to bring up the famous “mission Accomplished” banner.

Liberals so love that banner.

Since our President takes credit for so much, wouldn’t it be fair that he also take credit for The War on Medical Marijuana. Well, he will when the time comes.

Can’t do it this week, what with the Correspondents Dinner and Kimmel around and all.

AG Holder had some interesting comments:
http://justsaynow.firedoglake.com/2012/04/30/holder-admits-obama-misled-rolling-stone-about-marijuana-law/

IlikedAUH2O on May 1, 2012 at 10:44 AM

Obama has no shame. Negative reactions in their private opinion polling might stop this. Or maybe not. Comrade Chairman Obama is so righteous he thinks he can change public opinion. Case in point, Obamacare.

farsighted on May 1, 2012 at 10:49 AM

We all know Obama would not be man enough to take the blame had the mission failed.

pesank on May 1, 2012 at 9:02 AM

This.

He almost certainly had a plan for who to blame when he gave the go ahead. That’s probably why he took so much time making the decision. Giving the green light was a no-brainer. Any President would do it. Formulating a backup plan to avoid blame for failure was the hard part.

farsighted on May 1, 2012 at 11:01 AM

Mr Zinke, who is now a Republican state senator in Montana, added that MR Obama was exploiting bin Laden’s death for his re-election bid. ‘The President and his administration are positioning him as a war president using the SEALs as ammunition. It was predictable.’

Another sour grape.

Uppereastside on May 1, 2012 at 11:04 AM

“Well, I worry about it, just because it’s the political season,” Adm. Mullen tells Williams. “And from my perspective, the president’s support, the decision that he made, and obviously, the result stand alone in terms of the kind of call presidents have to make and he made it. I do worry a great deal that this time of year that somehow this gets spun into election politics. I can assure you that those individuals who risk their lives–the last thing in the world that they want is to be spun into that. So I’m hoping that that doesn’t happen.”

Didn’t a Marine just get booted out of the Corps for criticizing the Preezy and Chief (Does Elizabeth Warren know about that title? Such a sexist.)? Which reminds me. I’d like for a real reporter to ask Mullen or any of the other brass if THEY’D follow unlawful orders? Something like: Would you authorize drone strikes on St. Louis, Missouri? Or the US Congress? Or the Supreme Court? Or a mass of US citizens who call themselves Tea Partiers?

There needs to be a cleaning because I do not understand the people who are now running our Armed Forces, starting with the turn-coat low-lives who issues that report on Major Hassan who is just your average mental patient, according to the Army. And then there’s the current head of the Air Force and his attack on Christians and Jews.

Portia46 on May 1, 2012 at 11:12 AM

libfreeordie on May 1, 2012 at 9:43 AM

And you think we’re all going to forget your side’s reaction to him even mentioning 9/11 in passing? You really want to talk about hypocrisy? You’re certainly qualified

Esthier on May 1, 2012 at 10:18 AM

In 2004 the libs, Lefties, Dems, and MSM became uniformly apoplectic and foaming-at-the-mouth hysterical whenever Team Bush even mentioned his handling of 9/11 and Afghanistan. Imagine the reaction if they had created a seven minute campaign spot about it.

farsighted on May 1, 2012 at 11:14 AM

Another sour grape.

Uppereastside on May 1, 2012 at 11:04 AM

Is Arianna Huffington and “sour grape”?

Resist We Much on May 1, 2012 at 11:18 AM

Another sour grape.

Uppereastside on May 1, 2012 at 11:04 AM

Seriously? You’re beyond parody.

Throat Wobbler Mangrove on May 1, 2012 at 11:18 AM

corr.

Is Arianna Huffington A “sour grape”?

Resist We Much on May 1, 2012 at 11:19 AM

Bin Laden was dead for about 24 hours when this thing was turned into a political football by the con/rightblogs – quickly followed by Fox News…esp. Hannity.
Most Repub office holders managed to avoid that at first, but then cracks started show with statements and comments with obvious subtext suggesting Obama didn’t deserve much if any credit.
But now all of a sudden many of you are offended that such a moment would be politicized?
Yea, sure you are.

verbaluce on May 1, 2012 at 11:30 AM

“I don’t know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don’t care. It’s not that important. It’s not our priority.”
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02

“I am truly not that concerned about him.”
- G.W. Bush, repsonding to a question about bin Laden’s whereabouts,
3/13/02 (The New American, 4/8/02)

lostmotherland on May 1, 2012 at 11:35 AM

No matter what, under any and all circumstances, if Obama does it, it’s bad. Sean/Rush say so. Therefore it is so.

angryed on May 1, 2012 at 11:37 AM

All this talk about preezy halitosis courageously saying Yes to killing one of the greatest American villains of the last century is swell, but….

Where’s that budget stuff that was going to cut our deficit in half? Haven’t seen a budget in 3 years, and the last two budgets Preezy “Math is hard” presented got precisely ZERO votes from either party. Why is that?

How’s the progress on bending the healthcare cost curve down going? CBO said embalmacare was going to add several hundred billion to the deficit, what gives?

How’s our unemployment rate looking? Per Earflaps McMadeADoody, it wasn’t supposed to get over 8% with the passage of the (anti)stimulus- real unemployment (U6) is near 15%, and if they weren’t eliminating millions upon millions from the numbers of jobseekers the unemployment rate reported would be about 10%- why is that?

What’s going on with the housing sector? Baraka said his hamp program was going to turn things around, yet prices are still falling and foreclosures are increasing… what happened?

Christians are being slaughtered by Muslims in Africa- why isn’t our purportedly Christian Preeezy doing something about this?

Bread and circus from Halitosis Nero.

Baraka FAIL.

FAIL x 5,000,000,000,000+

GrassMudHorsey on May 1, 2012 at 11:38 AM

Lots of troll bait getting tossed out on this thread.

farsighted on May 1, 2012 at 11:40 AM

Actually Pinkerton provided troop strength to McClellan. The Seals are not risking their lives for themselves, they do it for country and do not look for a pat on the back from anyone, other than their fellow team members. Can see Obama 30 years from now, bragging about the decision to go, in between golf outings.

democratsarefools on May 1, 2012 at 11:40 AM

Unfortunately for Obama, he was forced to pull the trigger about 6 months earlier than he’d have liked for campaign purposes. The killing of Bin Laden produced a 6 point bump in the President’s approval ratings for all of… 2 weeks.

The average Presidential popularity boost for events like this is 13% for about 22 weeks. (Examples: At the beginning of the Gulf War Bush 41 got a 23% boost than ran for 41 weeks. He lost re-election anyway. For the capture of Saddam Hussein, Bush 43 got an approval boost of 15% for 7 weeks.)

Obama’s initial boost for the killing of Bin Laden was one of the shortest and least enthusiastic of any received by any President in history. That they’re trying desperately to turn this into an even bigger boost, which they hope will last 6 months to the election, shows the utter desperation of the Obama campaign.

The forced hypocrisy of the Left (“our president is a bigger war-monger than your president”), the protests of the Navy SEALS, even the pundits’ distaste for this President’s self-aggrandizement and use of a national victory as a partisan political tool is going to blow back in his face like every other strategy he’s tried so far.

Besides, this anniversary is quickly to be over-shadowed by another. That’s right, it’s time for the anniversary of Obama’s own holiday: Cinco de Cuatro. (That’s Cinco de Mayo for anyone who knows Mexican history or Corona beer sales campaigns.) !Viva El Jefe de Jefes! (“Boss of Bosses.” English translation here.)

Okay, so the corrido is probably about the head of the Sinaloa drug cartel, but it fits:

“And my name and my photograph
Are never going to appear in the papers,
Because the journalist loves me.
And if he doesn’t he loses my favor.”

de rigueur on May 1, 2012 at 11:42 AM

Please excuse if already mentioned, but it’s been missing from all the comparisons I’ve read/heard: Obama’s call was for a single action, one moment in time. A commander-in-chief operates strategically as well. What are his accomplishments with regard to overall strategic plans? Any risks? I’d say Bush was more a commander-in-chief because he made decisions on force strength and its application. Of course, it was developed and recommended to him, but I don’t remember him gloating about successes.

For you idiots that will call out the “mission accomplished” banner, that’s weak tea. First, that wasn’t administration huffery. That was military pride.

Back to work with me….

freedomfirst on May 1, 2012 at 11:43 AM

@angryred:

“No matter what, under any and all circumstances, if Obama does it, it’s bad. Sean/Rush say so.”

Nice non sequitur, dope. Just a devastating counterargument to our fact based concerns about the mincing ninny preeezy pulling a Horatio Hornblower. Or not.

But give yourself a ‘nilla wafer anyway, cuz you earned it when you talked almost like a growns up, yes you did!

But to your point (again, not the one on the top of your head)- don’t listen to or watch either hannity or limbaugh, and I’m still waiting for Earflaps to do something that wasn’t blindingly incompetent.

I imagine if baraka HAD done something that wasn’t a total failure, the MSM kneepad squadron would be blathering about it instead of subjecting us to him pathetically beating his scrawny chest for the last two weeks about the accomplishments of Seal Team 6.

Now go ahead and run back to MSNBC to get your latest instructions from Ralph Macchio or Special Ed, lil’ fellow.

Dunce.

GrassMudHorsey on May 1, 2012 at 11:49 AM

Another sour grape.

Uppereastside on May 1, 2012 at 11:04 AM

LOL.

About the “sour grape”, Ryan Zinke…

Ryan Zinke, a former Commander in the US Navy who spent 23 years as a SEAL and led a SEAL Team 6 assault unit, said: ‘The decision was a no brainer. I applaud him for making it but I would not overly pat myself on the back for making the right call.

farsighted on May 1, 2012 at 11:54 AM

Rumor has it that Panetta had to goad him into doing it with the old salesman’s trick of “someone might beat you to it” by hinting that an arrest by the Pakistanis for political reasons was on the way.

SurferDoc on May 1, 2012 at 11:56 AM

turn it into a political baseball football bat for the upcoming election

FIFY

koaiko on May 1, 2012 at 12:00 PM

Let the chest thumping run its course. It has been one year and we are are in an election. Like the action itself, Obama will enjoy a small bounce for about a month. But it will disappear just like the original.
Its a one ( maybe twice) done thing. Then nothing.
If he continues with it through the summer, voters will get sick of it.

Jabberwock on May 1, 2012 at 12:01 PM

farsighted on May 1, 2012 at 11:54 AM

 
I’m guessing it still stands. It’s not like he’s a community organizer or a destitute law student who doesn’t want to buy condoms.

rogerb on May 1, 2012 at 12:01 PM

Rumor has it that Panetta had to goad him into doing it with the old salesman’s trick of “someone might beat you to it” by hinting that an arrest by the Pakistanis for political reasons was on the way.

SurferDoc on May 1, 2012 at 11:56 AM

Or even worse, bin Laden could have gotten away after Obama dithered and procrastinated for months and that fact became common knowledge during the election campaign. That possibility surely got Obama’s attention.

farsighted on May 1, 2012 at 12:02 PM

Rumor has it that Panetta had to goad him into doing it with the old salesman’s trick of “someone might beat you to it” by hinting that an arrest by the Pakistanis for political reasons was on the way.

SurferDoc on May 1, 2012 at 11:56 AM

Rumor has it you have no clue what happened – and that you’d believe anything that fit the false narrative someone slipped into your kool-aid.

verbaluce on May 1, 2012 at 12:08 PM

libfreeordie on May 1, 2012 at 9:43 AM

A reminder for you from Glenn Greenwald…

The Despical, Hypocritical “Obama-Firsters”

Resist We Much on May 1, 2012 at 10:32 AM

Wow, when O’bama loses Glenn Greenwald…

Del Dolemonte on May 1, 2012 at 12:09 PM

Another sour grape.

DickChaneyIsAWarCriminal on May 1, 2012 at 11:04 AM

THE HAGUE — A United Nations-backed court convicted former Liberian president Charles Taylor of war crimes and crimes against humanity, the first time a head of state has been found guilty by an international tribunal since the Nazi trials at Nuremberg.

Del Dolemonte on May 1, 2012 at 12:11 PM

verbaluce on May 1, 2012 at 11:30 AM

Wipe your chin off.

Del Dolemonte on May 1, 2012 at 12:12 PM

“I don’t know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don’t care. It’s not that important. It’s not our priority.”
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02

“I am truly not that concerned about him.”
- G.W. Bush, repsonding to a question about bin Laden’s whereabouts,
3/13/02 (The New American, 4/8/02)

Michelle O’bama on May 1, 2012 at 11:35 AM

Wipe your chin off too, dearie.

Del Dolemonte on May 1, 2012 at 12:14 PM

Wait a minute. Is Joe Biden on record as saying he wouldn’t have made that call to take OBL out? If so, WTH is he doing ‘a heartbeat’ away from being the guy who makes tough decisions and how does that jibe with the cheap shot at Romney?

Joe’s career is full of idiotic decisions we are all grateful weren’t implemented, but we’re supposed to feel safe and secure that this mental deficient is acting as BO’s personal life insurance policy?

CitizenEgg on May 1, 2012 at 12:23 PM

Secretary of Defense Robert Gates…

“Part of the reason I knew it was time to leave was that I ended up having to give a history lesson, it seemed like, every time we were in the Situation Room. You know, ‘This happened this way, and if you did it this way, and so on and so forth.”

farsighted on May 1, 2012 at 12:25 PM

Here on Hot Gas, we did celebrate the anniversary of the capture of Saddam Hussein.

But we waited 5 years to do so.

Del Dolemonte on May 1, 2012 at 12:31 PM

Heh, the instant it starts backfiring really does bring the garbage out in full force, doesn’t it?

And it isn’t complete without

lostmotherland on May 1, 2012 at 11:35 AM

Made up quotes. You fail, boy. Almost as much as The Boy in the High Chair.

MNHawk on May 1, 2012 at 12:40 PM

Unfortunately for Obama, he was forced to pull the trigger about 6 months earlier than he’d have liked for campaign purposes. The killing of Bin Laden produced a 6 point bump in the President’s approval ratings for all of… 2 weeks.

de rigueur on May 1, 2012 at 11:42 AM

I’m going to have to say it like it is, seeing how 0bama is willing to milk this for political reasons.

If he’d do that now, then it shows that the decision was couched in political calculation.

The elephant in the room was and still is the timing. They knew where bin Laden was for months, but then had to kill him right then.

I’m going to ask y’all to not hear any dog whistles here and just look at the facts:

In the two weeks before the killing, the furor over the birth certificate was reaching a fever pitch and was starting to go viral in the MSM. Trump was everywhere voicing his doubts. Jerome Corsi’s “Where’s the Birth Certificate?” was due to debut at #1 on the NYT best-seller list the next week.

Push comes to shove – 0bama orders the release of the “birth certificate,” lets it sit out there just long enough for the public to say, “OK, the ‘birthers’ are crazy” (I had a cousin shove it in my face that week), but then just before the widespread reports that it was faked can take hold, BLAM!, he kills OBL.

So the BC DOES get released, just long enough to register in people’s minds, but not long enough for those who judge it a fake to be allowed to rebut the White House in the MSM.

Trump is deflated.
Corsi is deflated.
The issue goes away during the huzzahs for the killing.

The cherry on top:

At the National Correspondents’ Dinner, 0bama says that this is the one-year anniversary of taking out a dangerous individual…. and they flash a big picture of Trump on the screen.

Folks, 0bama has done this right in front of us. It was, and is, a heck of a shell game. A classic shell game, perfectly executed by 0bama, complete with the last mocking of Trump this week.

Occam’s Razor, man…. Occam’s Razor.

cane_loader on May 1, 2012 at 12:50 PM

How humiliated those feel-good Obama voters must now be. They now know they’ve been had -I speak only of the ones that thought they were doing right -not the ones who knew he would support and enable their degenerate hedonism, sloth, sexual excess and perpetual dependency.

But, there were big clues-had you bothered to look or to hit just a few clicks of the mouse. There was that arrogant halo, calm the seas, messiah scam, a very long history of terrorist and undesirable freedom hating associations, and that anti-America racist minister who propagandized pure Marxism under the cover of Christianity, and then the absurd and expensive cover-up of all his grades, issues with his birth certificate, his missing law reviews, his self-absorbed auto-biographies of youthful non-accomplishments. Then there was that outrageous business about slaughtering fully born babies who survived the abortionist, by starving them to death (and you still wonder about those mild death panels?) How about those gazillion image protecting votes of “present?”
But then, maybe you knew all that…and didn’t care…hmm?

Don L on May 1, 2012 at 12:54 PM

This whole episode reminds me of the Chris Rock routine, obviously edited to make it a little more PC:

“Obama always wants credit for stuff he’s supposed to do. He will brag about some stuff a normal President won’t…‘I killed OBL’ What! You’re supposed to kill OBL when given the chance! What do ya want? A cookie?!?”

nextgen_repub on May 1, 2012 at 1:25 PM

But now all of a sudden many of you are offended that such a moment would be politicized?
Yea, sure you are.

verbaluce on May 1, 2012 at 11:30 AM

Does the left take accountability for anything – or is always the fault of the evil republicans?

Good lord. Obama pretends he parachuted in personally and capped Obama and you applaud and somehow claim it is republicans’ fault that Obama is so sleazy.

have you now shame? At long last, has the left no morals, standards or shame? None at all?

Seriously. You people are children.

Monkeytoe on May 1, 2012 at 2:40 PM

Rumor has it you have no clue what happened – and that you’d believe anything that fit the false narrative someone slipped into your kool-aid.

verbaluce on May 1, 2012 at 12:08 PM

I’m calling shenanigans. No effin’ way you Obot tools get to co-opt the Kool Aid descriptor. Everyone who wasn’t born yesterday (which I guess you’d have to be to support Obama) knows that the “drinking the kool-aid” meme was started in 2008 to describe the Obama supporters — it had such an impact that op-eds in major newspapers even ran describing it as such. I realize that there is very little intellect to draw upon in the Brain Dead Left & Teh Precious himself is a rank plagiarist, but stop stealing our stuff. Making up your own shouldn’t be too hard as you’re allegedly part of the “creative” class.

Dark Star on May 1, 2012 at 2:47 PM

Bin Laden was dead for about 24 hours when this thing was turned into a political football by the con/rightblogs – quickly followed by Fox News…esp. Hannity.
Most Repub office holders managed to avoid that at first, but then cracks started show with statements and comments with obvious subtext suggesting Obama didn’t deserve much if any credit.
But now all of a sudden many of you are offended that such a moment would be politicized?
Yea, sure you are.

verbaluce on May 1, 2012 at 11:30 AM

Context is so very important and this Preezy is such an I, Me, Mine man. His releasing the information about WHO did the mission; his total denial that it was the CIA and their interrogation techniques that got us the information; his inviting Sony in to make a movie and opened the vaults of top secret information for them; it was learning the names of the operatives.

It was following this jerk who’s first act as President was to float the notion that disabled veterans pay for their own rehabilitation. This was the same jerk who wears the SEALS around his neck like a metal who prosecuted 3 of them for supposedly giving a terrorist who had beheaded five American contractors and hung them from a bridge a bloody nose. This was the Preezy who tried to PROSECUTE lawyers for their legal opinion. This was the Preezy who tried to PROSECUTE the folks on the front line who were following orders about interrogation.

This is the Preezy who declared the war on terror over while men and women are still dying in the war HE said was the “good” war.

Sorry, but he’s not just unseemly, he’s a narcisist of gargantuan proportions. This little weazel politicised beer and Sarah Palin’s baby.

And wasn’t there just a memo which indicates that Obama didn’t make any decisions, so the $2 million voice over done by Bill Clinton is pure lie.

Portia46 on May 1, 2012 at 2:57 PM

The wages of one self-congratulatory bow too many?

http://navysealsagainstobama.com

farsighted on May 1, 2012 at 3:15 PM

I’m calling shenanigans. No effin’ way you Obot tools get to co-opt the Kool Aid descriptor. Everyone who wasn’t born yesterday (which I guess you’d have to be to support Obama) knows that the “drinking the kool-aid” meme was started in 2008 to describe the Obama supporters — it had such an impact that op-eds in major newspapers even ran describing it as such. I realize that there is very little intellect to draw upon in the Brain Dead Left & Teh Precious himself is a rank plagiarist, but stop stealing our stuff. Making up your own shouldn’t be too hard as you’re allegedly part of the “creative” class.

Dark Star on May 1, 2012 at 2:47 PM

In all fairness, using the term “drinking the kool-aid” like that comes from the Jim Jones cult that killed themselves and their kids by drinking poisoned kool-aid in 1978 in Guyana.

Monkeytoe on May 1, 2012 at 3:27 PM

In all fairness, using the term “drinking the kool-aid” like that comes from the Jim Jones cult that killed themselves and their kids by drinking poisoned kool-aid in 1978 in Guyana.

Monkeytoe on May 1, 2012 at 3:27 PM

I’m aware of the Jim Jones reference; however, it was 2008 that the term was applied to political supporters of a candidate with such impact that it became part of the narrative in the MSM. The kool-aid swilling Obots don’t get to co-opt it & try to apply it to us now.

Dark Star on May 1, 2012 at 3:29 PM

In all fairness, using the term “drinking the kool-aid” like that comes from the Jim Jones cult that killed themselves and their kids by drinking poisoned kool-aid in 1978 in Guyana.

Monkeytoe on May 1, 2012 at 3:27 PM

I’m aware of the Jim Jones reference; however, it was 2008 that the term was applied to political supporters of a candidate with such impact that it became part of the narrative in the MSM. The kool-aid swilling Obots don’t get to co-opt it & try to apply it to us now.

Dark Star on May 1, 2012 at 3:29 PM

Back in 2006 Media Matters had their Pampers in a bunch because Sean Hannity called Bill Clinton’s supporters “Kool Aid Drinkers”.

And the Left had used it even earlier than that:

In 2002, Arianna Huffington used the phrase “pass the Kool-Aid, pardner” in a column about an economic forum hosted by President George W. Bush.

Del Dolemonte on May 1, 2012 at 3:33 PM

PS — Not to mention that the reason it was applied to the Obots because of the scary, cult-like adoration they have for him — he is their Jim Jones & they would happily drink poisoned Kool Aid if he told them to do so (Jones did tell the family the Kool Aid was poisoned & they all drank it anyway). Look at how Brain Dead Left is running around acting like Obama is handing out hand jobs & chocolate bars & unicorns are running free farting rainbows just because Obama tells them that is what is happening.

OTOH, there is absolutely no equivalent “cult of personality” the Right is swooning (and fainting over) so not only are they unoriginal, it doesn’t even make sense applying it to us.

Dark Star on May 1, 2012 at 3:34 PM

Del Dolemonte on May 1, 2012 at 3:33 PM

Look up the word “impact.”

Dark Star on May 1, 2012 at 3:35 PM

*and narrative wouldn’t hurt either.

Dark Star on May 1, 2012 at 3:36 PM

OTOH, there is absolutely no equivalent “cult of personality” the Right is swooning (and fainting over) so not only are they unoriginal, it doesn’t even make sense applying it to us.

Dark Star on May 1, 2012 at 3:34 PM

I understand your point, but “drinking the kool-aid” gets tossed around all the time, in politics and other arenas – well before 2008.

And, I don’t recall that the term became a thing about Obama supporters like you are implying here. I don’t remember that from 2008. But, not big deal to me either way.

Monkeytoe on May 1, 2012 at 3:41 PM

Yes but the weapons the seal team used were stolen from a drug lord in Mexico. So Obama completed the circle of life. He deserves even more credit.

sdbatboy on May 1, 2012 at 3:54 PM

Lincoln at Gettysburg (emphasis mine):

“The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here.”

Obama (emphasis also mine):

I directed Leon Panetta, the director of the CIA, to make the killing or capture of bin Laden the top priority . . . even as I continued our broader effort. . . . Then, after years of painstaking work by my intelligence community I was briefed . . . I met repeatedly with my national security team . . . And finally last week I determined that I had enough intelligence to take action. . . . Today, at my direction . . .”

Doesn’t strike me as very “Lincolnesque”.

tgharris on May 1, 2012 at 5:28 PM

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