Romney: C’mon, even Jimmy Carter would have given the order to take out Bin Laden

posted at 4:43 pm on April 30, 2012 by Allahpundit

A hard jab at O that has the added benefit of being true. Jimmeh gave the order for Operation Eagle Claw; why wouldn’t he give the order to liquidate OBL? The politics of counterterrorism being what they are, it’s easier for a president to err on the side of aggression than passivity. If Obama had sent in the SEALs and things had gone wrong, it would have been embarrassing and politically damaging but O could always plead that his motives were pure and that he’d been duly diligent. He was after Public Enemy Number One, he had decent intel, and he’d assigned the best troops in the world to the mission. By 2011, respecting Pakistan’s sovereignty on something like this was pure folly given the depth of ISI’s treachery in Afghanistan for the past 10 years. In fact, here’s a sensational tidbit about the raid buried in Newsweek’s new story on the hunt for Zawahiri:

“There are indicators that some elements of the Pakistani government may be protecting Zawahiri,” says a U.S. intel official who did not want to be named discussing sensitive information. “We have reports that he’s been hanging out in Karachi for brief periods, and we just don’t think he’s going to be doing that without a lot of people knowing about it.”…

The distrust only got worse after the bin Laden raid. President Obama, fearing a leak, ordered that Pakistan be kept in the dark. The United States, in fact, expected that the Navy SEALs would bring back evidence that Pakistani intelligence was cooperating with al Qaeda. Newsweek has learned that shortly after the SEALs stormed bin Laden’s hideout, federal prosecutors were laying the groundwork to issue sealed indictments against members of the Pakistani government or anyone else they believed had aided bin Laden. The charge, according to two law-enforcement sources, would have been “harboring a fugitive terrorist.”

The SEALs carted away boxes of computers, hard drives, thumb drives, DVDs, and thousands of documents. It was the greatest intel haul on al Qaeda’s operations and habits since 9/11: 3.4 terabytes of information, according to an intelligence source, including a personal journal by bin Laden, outlines for aspirational plots, cellphone numbers, and other contact information for al Qaeda allies. No smoking gun on Pakistani complicity was found, however, and no indictments were returned.

Romney’s taking heat today for having scolded Obama in 2007 over his willingness to cross an ally’s borders to grab Bin Laden, but that was a closer call at the time than it is now. No one was under any illusions then either about ISI double-dealing, but Musharraf seemed to have more control over the agency than Kayani or the current weak civilian government does and he was on better terms with the U.S. than Pakistan is now after another five years of proxy terror in Afghanistan. In fact, the risk of seeing him toppled in the aftermath of a U.S. cross-border incursion was one of the arguments against it, which helps explain why even prominent Democrats at the time challenged Obama on his plan. Five years later, with Musharraf gone and U.S. trust in Pakistan deteriorated to the point where the DOJ was actually preparing terrorism indictments against its leaders, your options on grabbing a top jihadi inside its borders are straightforward. Either you do it or it’s not getting done.

That’s one reason O felt pressured to act. The other reason, as I mentioned up top, is that the politics of this issue simply do not allow for passivity. Obama must have considered what the reaction would be if he’d declined to give the order and the NYT dropped a bombshell six months later about how Bin Laden had been living in Abbottabad and recently left — and that O and the CIA suspected he was there but had refused to act. The GOP would have destroyed him over it. He would have been finished politically. That’s why, when Bush was asked by CNN waaay back in 2006 whether he’d send troops into Pakistan to get Bin Laden — and remember, this was when his pal Musharraf was still in charge — he answered, “Absolutely.” When you’re president and someone asks you a question about whether you’d do X, Y, or Z to get the guy responsible for 9/11, the answer’s always going to be “absolutely,” even if there are truly significant risks to whatever X, Y, or Z might be.

In the end, I think David Frum’s right that the tough call wasn’t whether to give the order but whether to put boots on the ground or just bomb the compound to smithereens and hope that OBL was there. Sending in troops was riskier because having the SEALs taken prisoner or killed in action in a futile effort would have been very hard for O to explain, but I’m not so sure it was much riskier than bombing. An airstrike deep inside Pakistan, right down the road from the military academy, would have been extremely provocative. The target might have been so devastated that there’d be no way to tell if Bin Laden was a casualty or not. In fact, even if he was there and ended up dead in the rubble, ISI surely would have scooped up the body, ferried it away, and then claimed that the bomb had destroyed an orphanage or something. If you’re going to gamble on something like this, you at least want to be sure that you’ve got your man. Sending troops was the only way.


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Jimmeh gave the order for Operation Eagle Claw; why wouldn’t he give the order to liquidate OBL?

He would have. Say what you will about President Carter, but I read a book by a USAF colonel that laid out the mission planning for Eagle Claw. They had to essentially develop stuff out of whole cloth. Night vision capability is one example that took a generational leap ahead due to Eagle Claw. President Carter tried to resource, assist, keep the mission quiet, meet with the assault team etc etc all in the months leading up to it. Bottom line, Jimmy did what he could and, after it failed, he took responsibility for it–absolutely the right thing to do. The lessons learned from that very mission spawned the special capabilities with which ADM McRaven and the rest of his guys leveraged that very night last year. Good on them.

ted c on April 30, 2012 at 6:58 PM

What was Obama’s real role?

hooligan on April 30, 2012 at 5:14 PM

Extra

katy the mean old lady on April 30, 2012 at 6:59 PM

coldwarrior on April 30, 2012 at 6:49 PM

War Planner:

That’d be Bragg, not Benning.

Getting old. Too fast. Where the hell did my youth go?

coldwarrior on April 30, 2012 at 7:00 PM

Come on, Romney, this is really a low blow, Jimmie was a mighty warrior against the killer rabbit.

galtani on April 30, 2012 at 7:02 PM

Obama would get a lot more mileage on bin laden’s death if – instead of making it about Obama – he would brag on how awesome the special forces are.
 
Deafdog on April 30, 2012 at 5:59 PM

 
I don’t think he can. Not for national security or squad integrity or anything like that. I just truly don’t think he can. He’s not able to do those sort of things.
 
Find an instance of him complimenting someone where he didn’t somehow turn the conversation back to Obama. I’d love to be wrong, but our president isn’t a generous or humble man, and he doesn’t like the attention to be off of himself for a moment.

rogerb on April 30, 2012 at 7:04 PM

What was Obama’s real role?

hooligan on April 30, 2012 at 5:14 PM

.
Ocommie and Holder were busy at that time working on the paperwork to prosecute another company of Seal Team warriors they were not happy with.
.
Irony.

FlaMurph on April 30, 2012 at 7:06 PM

Obama: All cool, no class.

rubberneck on April 30, 2012 at 7:07 PM

What was Obama’s real role?

hooligan on April 30, 2012 at 5:14 PM

He was present.

Tuning Spork on April 30, 2012 at 7:08 PM

The classy thing for O to do would have been to prance around like a clown in a flight suit on an aircraft carrier under a “Mission Accomplished” sign.

not everyone has amnesia of the Bush years, you know

DBear on April 30, 2012 at 7:11 PM

ted c on April 30, 2012 at 6:58 PM

Under Carter a few things got underway that paid huge dividends later…that Rapid Deployment Force thing marked the first timid baby steps from thinking of an army as lots of divisions and corps that took months to get into place, and some of the technology that was shown to have worked or even worked poorly in the Teheran mission was honed and developed…the first tactical use of direct phone links from Cairo, Misarah and the teams inside Iran back to JSOC and DC was a first. [A bog suitcase, with the lid being the reflector for the antenna, and the rest being filled with batteries and radiophone gear.

Lots of free-thinking went on from DARPA on down the line…an innovations or two from some airmen…wish that special C-130 would have worked out…less than a football field for landing and take-off…how the idea for the Osprey got started.

No, the carter years were not a total waste by any means. Us mud soldiers had a tough time. But it did lead the way to a lot better in the long run.

Under Obama, I am not as sanguine.

coldwarrior on April 30, 2012 at 7:11 PM

Woohoo!!! I’m no fan of Romney, but I’m cheering this one.

The Rogue Tomato on April 30, 2012 at 7:17 PM

No, the carter years were not a total waste by any means. Us mud soldiers had a tough time. But it did lead the way to a lot better in the long run.

coldwarrior on April 30, 2012 at 7:11 PM

I agree, it did, and these years will as well. The 1979-1980 timeframe was rough–gas lines, economy shot to pieces, Tehran, Soviets etc…but, things did turn around. I’m confident that they can again.

ted c on April 30, 2012 at 7:17 PM

Well sure, Egypt has turned to the dark side. And sure Iran is begging for and hopefully will get their a$$es kicked by Israel. And sure he blew the chance in Iran to help overthrow the mullahs. And sure Libya was a complete waste of time and now an AQ playground. And sure Sudan is as bad as it ever was. And sure, Afghanistan is reverting back to form. And sure the US forces are no longer welcome in Iraq. And sure Lebanon is an Islamic sh-thole. And sure Hezbollah has rearmed to the teeth. And sure Abbas has played and keeps playing him for the fool he is.

But hey, he and Madame Smart Power always have the great job they’ve done with Syria to brag about!

MJBrutus on April 30, 2012 at 5:07 PM

That was so depressing to read. I guess I try to block out all the damage this man has done in regards to foreign policy. But that record is brutal. Clearly this will not be mentioned in debates, but Romney has to make this level of incompetence a major campaign issue.

milcus on April 30, 2012 at 7:17 PM

under the wonder boy from Plains our military thrived by lacking live ammo, equipment and adequate living facilities and resources. Great experience!

wraithby on April 30, 2012 at 7:21 PM

No smoking gun on Pakistani complicity was found, however, and no indictments were returned.
Yeah right .

And I am the Great Khali
burrata on April 30, 2012 at 5:04 PM

Obama must have considered what the reaction would be if he’d declined to give the order and the NYT dropped a bombshell six months later about how Bin Laden had been living in Abbottabad and recently left — and that O and the CIA suspected he was there but had refused to act.

O’bama afraid of the NYT doing something to embarrass him?I don’t think so.
Del Dolemonte on April 30, 2012 at 5:09 PM

Obama must have considered what the reaction would be if he’d declined to give the order and the NYT dropped a bombshell six months later about how Bin Laden had been living in Abbottabad and recently left — and that O and the CIA suspected he was there but had refused to act. The GOP would have destroyed him over it. He would have been finished politically.
Say what, AP? If the NYT ran such a story at all, it wouldn’t be until Obama was safely re-elected. No way would they do it when it could hurt his re-election chances.

If Breitbart’s blogs had the story, sure. NYT, LAT, WaPoo… no. No.
fiatboomer on April 30, 2012 at 5:13 PM

Romney’s taking at today for having scolded Obama in 2007 over his willingness to cross an ally’s borders to grab Bin Laden, but that was a closer call at the time than it is now.

Actually, Mitt only scolded Obama for admitting that we would cross an ally’s borders to grab Bin Laden. Even Hillary gave Mr. Perfect crap for that diplomatic boner. Mr. Arkadin on April 30, 2012 at 6:18 PM

We need better pundits. And we have them! AP please try to pick up your game. You’ve missed the essence of this story. Romney said that you don’t announce ahead of time that you would invade a sometime ally in order to take out the world’s number one terrorist. You just do it. Quietly. This election pits an adult against a child.

Basilsbest on April 30, 2012 at 7:23 PM

It doesn’t matter what tactics were used. It doesn’t matter at all.
Neither Obama, nor Romney would ever come up with any of those military options anyway.

The point is that Obama is an immature brat. He is NOT a Statesman.
Come on. He is trying to shade it so that Romney wouldn’t do what was needed to keep America safe? What is his point?

It’s absurd.
It’s also very telling that Obama has NOTHING to run on. Because Bin Laden is not the end of the war on terror, people do not have that emotion that Obama wants to work on and ride on. What an idiot.
Mr. President, thanks for killing bin laden so as to endear yourself to the American public that you detest and do not understand. I cannot wait for him to lose his sh– as the summer winds on and he finds himself in ‘trouble’ politically. The media cannot hold this guy’s water. Not all of it. It’s too freakin’ heavy.

Oh, I am so sick of this PO(TU)S.

bridgetown on April 30, 2012 at 7:25 PM

In the end, I think David Frum’s right

There is something you aren’t like to see written often.

Cindy Munford on April 30, 2012 at 7:26 PM

Did Romney just compare himself to Carter? Hmm!

Carter = Romney = 0bama. Got it!

DannoJyd on April 30, 2012 at 7:31 PM

30 second commercial for 8 seconds of clip. Is that fair and balanced? Whither the intertubials?

In fact, even if he was there and ended up dead in the rubble, ISI surely would have scooped up the body, ferried it away, and then claimed that the bomb had destroyed an orphanage or something.

Mr. Allanpundit, are you implying that the noble pure people of Pakistan are capable of fibbing? That’s skating on the surface of Pedophilophobia. That will be illegal very soon, precedent has already been set and the Arab League are onside.

BL@KBIRD on April 30, 2012 at 7:39 PM

Romney: C’mon, even Jimmy Carter would have given the order to take out Bin Laden

Romney dumps some reality all over ObaMao’s head. lol

cicerone on April 30, 2012 at 7:50 PM

Did Romney just compare himself to Carter? Hmm!

Carter = Romney = 0bama. Got it!

DannoJyd on April 30, 2012 at 7:31 PM

Only the mentally imbalanced would read that as him comparing himself to Carter… ;-)

SauerKraut537 on April 30, 2012 at 7:52 PM

Romney is just awesome.

netster007x on April 30, 2012 at 8:00 PM

Did Romney just compare himself to Carter? Hmm!Carter = Romney = 0bama. Got it!
DannoJyd on April 30, 2012 at 7:31 PM

No dummy, he compared Obama to Carter. You got nothing. Your record is intact. O for 2618. You are an embarrassment to the Tea Party.

Basilsbest on April 30, 2012 at 8:02 PM

We do know Bill Clinton turned down a chance to get Bin Laden.

So why isn’t Romney bringing up that minor factoid, other than general Republican incompetence?

MNHawk on April 30, 2012 at 4:51 PM

Yeah I don’t understand. He had a perfect chance to draw a contrast between himself and Clinton, so that when people went into the voting booth and had to choose between Clinton and Romney, they’d go with Romney.

Those incompetent Republicans. Why can’t they understand that what the public really wants to know is “why should we vote for you when we could have voted for someone different 16 years ago?”.

RINO in Name Only on April 30, 2012 at 8:07 PM

Only the mentally imbalanced would read that as him comparing himself to Carter… ;-)

SauerKraut537 on April 30, 2012 at 7:52 PM

Oh really!

Romney: C’mon, even Jimmy Carter would have given the order to take out Bin Laden

So you read that as Romney saying he WOULD NOT give the order like Carter would?

Damn graduates with their liberal educations!

DannoJyd on April 30, 2012 at 8:08 PM

DannoJyd on April 30, 2012 at 7:31 PM

You are an embarrassment to the Tea Party.

Basilsbest on April 30, 2012 at 8:02 PM

Anybody who brags as much as he does about being a Tea Party leader, very likely ISN’T a Tea Party leader.

Oh! And it’s TEA Party… TEA ;-) (he’ll get offended if you don’t capitalize it)

SauerKraut537 on April 30, 2012 at 8:10 PM

No dummy, he compared Obama to Carter.

Basilsbest on April 30, 2012 at 8:02 PM

Reading is fundamental:

Romney: C’mon, even Jimmy Carter would have given the order to take out Bin Laden

So you interpret that as Romney stating that he WOULD NOT have taken our OBL? ROTFL!

Damn graduates of the liberal edumakashional system. Clueless as always.

DannoJyd on April 30, 2012 at 8:10 PM

the GOP: the party of catastrophic terror attacks on their watch and invading/occupying countries w/ no WMD’s.

oh yes, let’s trust the GOP on national security yet again shall we?

DBear on April 30, 2012 at 6:49 PM

The classy thing for O to do would have been to prance around like a clown in a flight suit on an aircraft carrier under a “Mission Accomplished” sign.

not everyone has amnesia of the Bush years, you know

DBear on April 30, 2012 at 7:11 PM

I think you’re onto something here. I’ve got it! You guys should run against Bush! It worked great in 2010. What could go wrong?

RINO in Name Only on April 30, 2012 at 8:12 PM

SauerKraut537 on April 30, 2012 at 8:10 PM

Did you sign up yet as a volunteer to get liberal Sketchy elected? Thought not. :oP

DannoJyd on April 30, 2012 at 8:12 PM

Well no one recalls hearing Jimmy Carter say getting OBL was too expensive for America.

However we have Sketch and W on tape saying just that.

Uppereastside on April 30, 2012 at 8:36 PM

Øbama is the Terrel Owens of politics.

Mojave Mark on April 30, 2012 at 8:36 PM

romney still on the defensive, right where we want him

sesquipedalian on April 30, 2012 at 8:44 PM

From Drudge: SEALS SLAM OBAMA FOR MAKING IT POLITICAL

mechkiller_k on April 30, 2012 at 8:55 PM

No dummy, he compared Obama to Carter.

Basilsbest on April 30, 2012 at 8:02 PM

Reading is fundamental:

Romney: C’mon, even Jimmy Carter would have given the order to take out Bin Laden

So you interpret that as Romney stating that he WOULD NOT have taken our OBL? ROTFL!

Damn graduates of the liberal edumakashional system. Clueless as always.

DannoJyd on April 30, 2012 at 8:10 PM

Your record is still intact. You dishonestly try to twist my words. Epic fail. BTW, I obtained my first University degree in 1969, which I guess is before you were born.

Basilsbest on April 30, 2012 at 8:57 PM

However we have Sketch and W on tape saying just that.

Uppereastside on April 30, 2012 at 8:36 PM

Funny, middle-of-the-road moderate centrist squishes like, er.. Arianna Huffington don’t seem very convinced by what you’ve got on tape.

Don’t worry, I’m sure she’s just an outlier.

I’m sure the rest of the public will be very very receptive of your very plausible theory that Mitt Romney would not have had the Balls of Steel needed to say “Yes, you may kill Bin Laden”.

RINO in Name Only on April 30, 2012 at 9:05 PM

This cracks me up. Does Obama REALLY want people to know that “getting” Osama was a “tough call” for him? (a call that he, apparently, didn’t even really make?) Really? This is kind of a no-brainer, dude. I mean, your wuss is showing.

Book on April 30, 2012 at 9:09 PM

I’m sure the rest of the public will be very very receptive of your very plausible theory that Mitt Romney would not have had the Balls of Steel needed to say “Yes, you may kill Bin Laden”.

RINO in Name Only on April 30, 2012 at 9:05 PM

The tapes don’t lie.

Uppereastside on April 30, 2012 at 9:18 PM

We do know Bill Clinton turned down a chance to get Bin Laden.

So why isn’t Romney bringing up that minor factoid, other than general Republican incompetence?

MNHawk on April 30, 2012 at 4:51 PM

Too complicated for the average DWTS viewer. We understand all that and know what Clinton did/didn’t do, but a lot of people would just go “huh?”.

kim roy on April 30, 2012 at 9:33 PM

The tapes don’t lie. Uppereastside on April 30, 2012 at 9:18 PM

But Obama does. He claims that a No-Brainer decision was heroic. No doubt for him it was. This, after all, is the Pathetic Wimp who opposed the Surge in Iraq and then had the audacity to take credit for the result there.

I am delighted that Obama has made this an election issue. Perhaps the LSM might get off their collective behinds and tell us how long it was before we knew where bin Laden was and when he was killed. And who gave the order. And whether and why there was a 16 hour delay.

The photo of Obama in the kid’s chair is impressive, but I want the whole story.

Basilsbest on April 30, 2012 at 9:34 PM

Basilsbest on April 30, 2012 at 9:34 PM

lol

Romney- Hey America, rather than waste money finding the guy who killed three thousand of your fellow citizens, why don’t we redistribute that money to the upper 1%. They are the job creators you know.

Uppereastside on April 30, 2012 at 9:38 PM

So, is 0 ending the SEALs in on this war against women? Frankly, I am shocked that the great politician Obama would really look this amateur in a campaign.

Ellis on April 30, 2012 at 9:42 PM

Too complicated for the average DWTS viewer. We understand all that and know what Clinton did/didn’t do, but a lot of people would just go “huh?”.

kim roy on April 30, 2012 at 9:33 PM

The “huh” means WTF are you talking about?

Most Americans aren’t stupid like you wingnuts would like to think. They all heard Sketch say he prefers showering the upper 1% with funds allotted to find and kill OBL. So keep spinning away okay.

Uppereastside on April 30, 2012 at 9:43 PM

I’m sure the rest of the public will be very very receptive of your very plausible theory that Mitt Romney would not have had the Balls of Steel needed to say “Yes, you may kill Bin Laden”.

RINO in Name Only on April 30, 2012 at 9:05 PM

The tapes don’t lie.

Uppereastside on April 30, 2012 at 9:18 PM

Oh you’re quite right. You’ve got us there. It’s all right there on the tapes. The smoking gun. I think you’ve got this one in the bag. I think you’ve got these reactionaries right where you want them.

And yet… something occurs to me. No, no it’s probably nothing.

There’s a funny thing about evidence, though. When you ask the defendant to put the glove on in front of the jury, it’s always a good idea to make sure ahead of time that you know it’s going to fit.

RINO in Name Only on April 30, 2012 at 9:44 PM

Damn graduates of the liberal edumakashional system. Clueless as always.

DannoJyd on April 30, 2012 at 8:10 PM

DannoJyd, there’s no way you are a real TEA Party supporter. Seriously, your ridiculous, non-stop Romney-bashing, your repeated declarations of being a TEA Partier, and your too-stupid-to-be-real ramblings all point to one thing: a liberal pretending to be a “dumb Teabagger” in order to bash Romney.

Or, maybe you are real… in which case, I’m more than a little embarrassed that you’re on “our side”.

bluegill on April 30, 2012 at 9:44 PM

Uppereastside on April 30, 2012 at 9:43 PM

Hey, are you excited about May Day? I have a chant for ya:

Ho Ho, Hey Hey, how many businesses should we close today?

You’re welcome.

Buy Danish on April 30, 2012 at 9:49 PM

Most Americans aren’t stupid like you wingnuts would like to think. They all heard Sketch say he prefers showering the upper 1% with funds allotted to find and kill OBL. So keep spinning away okay.

Uppereastside on April 30, 2012 at 9:43 PM

You’re right, we wingnuts, being as how we’re all stupid and all, don’t always grasp these subtleties in these things that are apparent to more refined folks such as yourself.

But with apologies to AP, that’s a rather nuanced interpretation of the text.

RINO in Name Only on April 30, 2012 at 10:11 PM

Too complicated for the average DWTS viewer. We understand all that and know what Clinton did/didn’t do, but a lot of people would just go “huh?”.

kim roy on April 30, 2012 at 9:33 PM

The “huh” means WTF are you talking about?

Most Americans aren’t stupid like you wingnuts would like to think. They all heard Sketch say he prefers showering the upper 1% with funds allotted to find and kill OBL. So keep spinning away okay.

Uppereastside on April 30, 2012 at 9:43 PM

You’re incoherent. What are you trying to say? That Romney wanted to give billionaires money to kill Bin Laden??

You have a cite for your babbling? Or do you want to try again?

And thanks for proving my point about stupidity. Much appreciated.

kim roy on April 30, 2012 at 10:14 PM

You’re incoherent. What are you trying to say? That Romney wanted to give billionaires money to kill Bin Laden??

You have a cite for your babbling? Or do you want to try again?

And thanks for proving my point about stupidity. Much appreciated.

kim roy on April 30, 2012 at 10:14 PM

One thing I’ve noticed about a number of democratic attacks is that lately, you don’t have to go exaggerating what they say to belittle them.

I can literally just repeat their argument back to them, without the slightest bit of exaggeration, and it already functions as weapons-grade snark by itself.

Try it yourself. Just say “You’re right, it is very plausible that Mitt Romney wouldn’t have the guts to say ‘Yes, you may kill Bin Laden’”.

Or try it with some of the other ones:

“Yes, Mitt Romney hates cookies”

“Yes, Mitt Romney hates dogs” (though for this one, it’s very hard to avoid the temptation to fiddle with it just a tiny bit, given how close it is to “Mitt Romney hates puppies”)

RINO in Name Only on April 30, 2012 at 10:24 PM

You’re right, we wingnuts, being as how we’re all stupid and all, don’t always grasp these subtleties in these things

RINO in Name Only on April 30, 2012 at 10:11 PM

You see? Case in point.

RINO in Name Only on April 30, 2012 at 10:30 PM

Peanut would have staged a dramatic photo-op wearing a spiked helmet, camouflage makeup, jump boots…. and a cardigan.

viking01 on April 30, 2012 at 10:51 PM

We do know Bill Clinton turned down a chance to get Bin Laden.

So why isn’t Romney bringing up that minor factoid, other than general Republican incompetence?

MNHawk on April 30, 2012 at 4:51 PM

Where I come from it’s called class and/or respect for the office. WHO (but Obama) goes around dissing former Presidents????????????
It’s not incompetence to piddle around in this sewer, it’s statesmanship. Romney has NOTHING to gain by doing what you suggest he do.

Some of us care about the direction we’re going and we know full well that bin laden’s whereabouts Don’t make a DAMN at this juncture. sheesh, don’t you see? Yeah, weee, yay, go Obama, clap, clap, you got bin laden….so? Who cares?
We are unemployed.
jackwad.

bridgetown on April 30, 2012 at 11:07 PM

Basilsbest on April 30, 2012 at 8:57 PM

I am not twisting your words. I am demanding that you make a decision. didn’t they teach that in your fancy liberal University, or do you depend on having the GoBernment make those for you.

Or, maybe you are real… in which case, I’m more than a little embarrassed that you’re on “our side”.

bluegill on April 30, 2012 at 9:44 PM

I never stated that I was on your side. I am an Free American and I will support only people with a proven track record that shows they understand the American way, not the Socialist way.

TEA Party Patriots come from many different backrounds, but we all work for one thing. We want to kick out the corrupt-o-crats and put in place actual representatives.

Did Willard represent you when he laid the blueprint for 0bamacare? If not then you have capitulated to liberalism.

I am not alone:

Voting for Romney (D-​​Mass.): The Worst Mistake a Conservative Could Make

DannoJyd on May 1, 2012 at 1:17 AM

In the meantime, the Romney supporters are getting busy in Indiana:

DICK LUGAR AND HIS WASHINGTON ESTABLISHMENT
ALLIES
MOBILIZE DEMOCRATS IN GOP PRIMARY

DannoJyd on May 1, 2012 at 1:40 AM

Not a Lie at all.

Del Dolemonte on April 30, 2012 at 6:24 PM

Good grief! No one but you & me seems to remember that?

Why would he?

changer1701 on April 30, 2012 at 4:53 PM

Maybe because Bill Clinton is the one actually making the charge?

MNHawk on May 1, 2012 at 6:06 AM

LIMBAUGH: Well, we’ve got another tape from — I get these guys confused — Usama bin Laden. Another tape says he’s going to invade Pakistan and declare war on Pakistan and Musharraf, which, ladies and gentlemen, puts him on the same page with a Democrat presidential candidate — that would be Barack “Uss-Obama.” And let’s go back to August 1st: “U-Bama” gave a speech on counterterrorism, and here’s a portion of what he said.

OBAMA [audio clip]: If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf will not act, we will.

LIMBAUGH: All right, so, we’re going to attack Pakistan. Poor Musharraf’s going to get it on both ends if Barack’s elected. [Premiere Radio Networks, The Rush Limbaugh Show, 9/20/2007]

plewis on May 1, 2012 at 9:51 AM

What Romney SHOULD have said: “C’mon, even Jimmy Carter would have given the order to take out Bin Ladin. WE’D have just given it SOONER!!!”

Snitchmo on May 1, 2012 at 11:34 AM

Desert One was not courageous leadership. It was just like the rest of Jimmy Carter’s Presidency: incompetent and the end product of years of Democrat attacks on the military.

It all went back to the 60′s version of Chuck Schummer: Frank Church. He and his fellow travelers effectively eviscerated the CIA, which haunted us all the way to 9-11. Carter pulled the rug out from under the Sha and touted the wonderfulness of the Ayatolla, who had been a hero in France. (Egypt’s Arab Spring was like a replay of 30 years ago) Turned out that the much despised Sha was a bleeping school girl compared to his replacements.

In the meantime, with intel gone, the Democrat Congresses all–every single one of them–proceeded to decimate the military. By the time Jimmy and his Democat Congresses took over to finish the job, our military was a disaster. Our Navy could cover only one ocean; our pilots were flying planes older than they were; training and equipment were non-extant. It was the only time in my lifetime I was seriously afraid of an all out nuclear war because Jimmy Doo Doo in his holier than thou sweater invited USSR adventurism, and I was seriously concerned that they’d adventure into a place we couldn’t ignore—like Israel.

Desert One used helo’s which had a long history of mechanical problems. They were good for short trips. Not for long ones. No intel. No night vision. No nothing. We lost 3 helicopters. One third of our entire fleet of that particular model (thank you Dems). Jimmy Knowitall didn’t even ask the Israeli’s, who had succeeded in Entebe, what they might suggest.

A helicopter not designed for distance, refueling in the desert where there was no intel, no forward team to secure the area, and no night vision because R&D wasn’t in the budget.

It was a disaster and Carter was totally responsible for it.

Portia46 on May 1, 2012 at 1:03 PM

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