Bad news: Thanks to Facebook, every potential 2040 president already unelectable

posted at 8:46 pm on April 30, 2012 by Allahpundit

To cleanse the palate, via the Onion, a solid goof on presidential vetting in the age of social media. In reality, the fact that nearly everyone will leave an indelible digital trail online means cultural standards about candidates’ behavior will relax a bit, just as they’ve relaxed somewhat when it comes to drug use. And of course, after the first major candidate or two in the future runs into serious political headaches because of something they posted years before, the hyperambitious leaders of tomorrow will change their behavior accordingly and be much more circumspect than their peers about what shows up on their Facebook wall or in their Twitter retweet files. I’m sure that’s already true to some extent, in fact. If you looked systematically at, say, the personal social media accounts of officers in the Young Democrats and Young Republicans at campuses across the country, I bet they’d be markedly more reserved on average than their classmates’. The media prefer its candidates wholesome to an almost robotic degree, darn it — unless of course they’re a Republican running against a Democratic incumbent, in which case they prefer their candidates to be “cool.”

Exit question: C’mon, they’re not going to vet Democrats in 2040 either, right?


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Well if you see the young ones now a days they cant even take care of themselves… how do you think they would take care of a whole country?

watertown on April 30, 2012 at 8:50 PM

No worries, I’ll be 48 in 2040 and my Facebook is 100% clean, unless one of the politicians I’m with in my profile pictures falls victim to a scandal, like if Orrin Hatch actually does punch a libertarian, or Haley Barbour turns out to be more of a racist than we thought, or Scott Brown does another nude photoshoot.

vegconservative on April 30, 2012 at 8:50 PM

Obama already admitted to doing blow in his 20′s, didn’t he?

Is it really that much worse just because it has a digital footprint?

Good Solid B-Plus on April 30, 2012 at 8:50 PM

No worries, I’ll be 48 in 2040 and my Facebook is 100% clean, unless one of the politicians I’m with in my profile pictures falls victim to a scandal, like if Orrin Hatch actually does punch a libertarian, or Haley Barbour turns out to be more of a racist than we thought, or Scott Brown does another nude photoshoot.

vegconservative on April 30, 2012 at 8:50 PM

Yeah, but you posted on HotAir, which means you’re a right-wing nut, which makes you far too unpalatable for the party of Romney. :)

Good Solid B-Plus on April 30, 2012 at 8:51 PM

By 2040 the legacy media will be financially bankrupt…

d1carter on April 30, 2012 at 8:53 PM

AP, did you really mean everyone will “leave an ineffable trail” in the second sentence? I’ve only ever heard ineffable used in a positive sense- as in unspeakably wonderful (often in reference to a…deity…). You’re a great wordsmith so that threw me off- maybe “indelible” is closer to what you were looking for?

DavidW on April 30, 2012 at 8:53 PM

Yep. I’ve thought about it before. I’m sure if I ever run for office the opposition will dig up some comment I wrote years ago in a moment of rage — something I never meant to say but did out of anger and lack of understanding about how it might come back to haunt me later.

Something for all relatively young activists to consider. Only now are people really understanding that something they write online can come back to haunt them. A few years ago it was less known.

amerpundit on April 30, 2012 at 8:53 PM

No worries, I’ll be 48 in 2040 and my Facebook is 100% clean,

vegconservative on April 30, 2012 at 8:50 PM

Smoo graduates are ineligible to run for president.

Birthers will tell you so.

cozmo on April 30, 2012 at 8:55 PM

oh, i’ve said so many crazy things and angry rants on the various websites i’ve been on… teeheehee

Sachiko on April 30, 2012 at 8:55 PM

It’s okay, as long as there are no pictures of you putting a dog on top of a car.

Good Solid B-Plus on April 30, 2012 at 8:56 PM

DavidW on April 30, 2012 at 8:53 PM

Yep, just a little brain lock on my part. Fixed now. Thanks!

Allahpundit on April 30, 2012 at 8:56 PM

Forging documents, having commie parents, and attending racist churches used to make people unelectable.

Relax, comrades.

faraway on April 30, 2012 at 8:58 PM

Exit question: C’mon, they’re not going to vet Democrats in 2040 either, right?
================

Lol,no sh*t AP!

Come to think of it,the Beer Pong Gate,was with Obama Staffers,
and,ahem………….they were already out of college,and that
still didn’t stop them from….Party/Hardy!!

canopfor on April 30, 2012 at 9:00 PM

For those of you that say no worries… that only applies to if you belong to the democratic party…for most of us… just because we tend to be conservative… we never get away with half the stuff.

watertown on April 30, 2012 at 9:01 PM

My Christmas wish: My years of comments on Hot Air, deleted. Because I know some enterprising sleuth will use them some day. Again, some crap I said in a moment of anger I didn’t mean or didn’t actually understand, turned into bigger issue. Which will be a shame.

amerpundit on April 30, 2012 at 9:02 PM

Obama already admitted to doing blow in his 20′s, didn’t he?

Is it really that much worse just because it has a digital footprint?

Good Solid B-Plus on April 30, 2012 at 8:50 PM

…heck…getting college transcripts are a problem today…and I think his 30′s and 40′s weren’t blow free. Yhe only one having to worry about a digital footprint would be a conservative or any Republican…everything else would be suppressed or erased…for Dems.

KOOLAID2 on April 30, 2012 at 9:03 PM

Ha! Im not on facebook, Im as good as elected!

Valkyriepundit on April 30, 2012 at 9:05 PM

You guys can all laugh and I did too.
Then I started thinking—-a whole lot of bad stuff could happen to this country in 28 years from external and internal forces unless we get a collective attitude adjustment.

arnold ziffel on April 30, 2012 at 9:09 PM

Ha! Im not on facebook, Im as good as elected!

Valkyriepundit on April 30, 2012 at 9:05 PM

Dem talking points against you :) …
- something to hide
- loner, no friends
- extremist
- unable to express opinions in the public square

faraway on April 30, 2012 at 9:10 PM

Ha! Im not on facebook, Im as good as elected!

Valkyriepundit on April 30, 2012 at 9:05 PM

I am but that is only because of those silly games my wife likes to play. I do not even know my own PW on the account lol.

watertown on April 30, 2012 at 9:10 PM

amerpundit on April 30, 2012 at 9:02 PM

Unless I’m missing something you are one of the nicer kids on HA. Me, not so much.

arnold ziffel on April 30, 2012 at 9:11 PM

My collie says:

Not to worry. By 2040, us dogs be eligible to run for POTUS.

Well, collie, I guess that shouldn’t surprise anyone. The country has been going to the dogs for quite some time now.

My collie says:

What?! You’d rather vote for a cat, then?

Depends. Is the cat a Democrat or a Republican?

CyberCipher on April 30, 2012 at 9:11 PM

Meh. There are those of us who have never posted a photo of themselves on Facebook, and have taken care to avoid being put in a position where unflattering photos of them could be taken and posted by others.

You’re 2040 campaign winner will be that sort of nerdy kid who was always kind of a jerk about getting his picture taken and would subtly move away from the crowd when cameras came out or a cell phone was pointed in his direction.

Gingotts on April 30, 2012 at 9:13 PM

I’ve got Chelseas Stickam vid with sound.

BL@KBIRD on April 30, 2012 at 9:13 PM

Dem talking points against you :) …
- something to hide
- loner, no friends
- extremist
- unable to express opinions in the public square

faraway on April 30, 2012 at 9:10 PM

Na, I think when they do some good ol’ real life oppo research they come up with enough stuff. *cough*

But untill then you guys may adress me as President Val!

Valkyriepundit on April 30, 2012 at 9:13 PM

Unless I’m missing something you are one of the nicer kids on HA. Me, not so much.

arnold ziffel on April 30, 2012 at 9:11 PM

Thank you.

amerpundit on April 30, 2012 at 9:13 PM

Obama eats dogs.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on April 30, 2012 at 9:16 PM

Nah, we are already on our way to Idiocracy.

Fallon on April 30, 2012 at 9:16 PM

Obama eats dogs.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on April 30, 2012 at 9:16 PM

My collie says:

It’s part of his plan to prevent us from taking over the country.

*GASP* Obama is a terminator robot from the future?

CyberCipher on April 30, 2012 at 9:21 PM

I think it’s doubtful there will be a USA to be president of by then.

The red states will have formed a new nation, the blue states will be a bankrupt fascist state where elections are no longer allowed.

Rebar on April 30, 2012 at 9:24 PM

So, if I’ve snorted coke, ate dogs, and launched my career in collusion with known domestic terrorist, and openly preached socialism, I’m still qualified? What’s the problem?

Rovin on April 30, 2012 at 9:24 PM

My collie says:

Not to worry. By 2040, us dogs be eligible to run for POTUS.

Nope. Sorry Collie. Obama will ensure eating dog becomes all the rage to prove how ‘in touch’ liberals are. You and your progeny are absolutely screwed.

Washington Nearsider on April 30, 2012 at 9:32 PM

“Obama gains support of the lazy after vowing not to create jobs.”

Why do I find this too true to be funny?

Happy Nomad on April 30, 2012 at 9:32 PM

Hence, why I don’t do facebook or Twitter.
(just very glad interwebs not around when I was in college)

rbj on April 30, 2012 at 9:42 PM

But…but…but,

in the mindset of John Edwards and Democrats, there are TWO
AMERICAS,and in some minds,57 States,so um,the Leftys have
an advantage in that other demension,er,altered universe type
of thingy!!
(snark)

canopfor on April 30, 2012 at 9:50 PM

Well, AP. Good thing you’re such a beta male shut-in. After Link Mecca and Allah Is In The House, you’d be toast before you started a campaign. ;-)

Of course, by 2040, we’ll all be under Shari’a Law, and you’ll be on the Top Ten Most Wanted for Islamic Hereticism, so it won’t really matter, will it?

nukemhill on April 30, 2012 at 9:52 PM

absolutely screwed.

Washington Nearsider on April 30, 2012 at 9:32 PM

Washington Nearsider:

OH DEAR GAWD,the Left are BIONKING THE DOG,as I type,
just look at the KeyStone Oil Pipeline,boyo..Obama
wanted to vote on it after the 2012 Election!
(sarc).

canopfor on April 30, 2012 at 9:53 PM

The good news for all the unelectable candidates then is that someone’s still gotta win the thing.

Stoic Patriot on April 30, 2012 at 9:53 PM

*GASP* Obama is a terminator robot from the future?

CyberCipher on April 30, 2012 at 9:21 PM

CyberCipher:Disguised as a metal Dog House,hehe,ahem…sorry,
I couldn`t help myself!:)

canopfor on April 30, 2012 at 9:55 PM

Okay. Monday night. Right out of the gate with … facebook and twitter.

As if this blog is not shallow enough as it is. I don’t think the puddin’ cup regulars, whom I hear shuffling down the hall right about now with their spiked cafe au lait and leather-bound Barnes & Noble posting journals, are going to appreciate this.

Therefore, this thread is double DOA.

But, anyway, allahpundid, so the kids of U of ABZ are unhappy?

Hmmm, I gotta ask you, how many years have you been out of college? And WHY do you care what the coed think?

minnesoter on April 30, 2012 at 10:00 PM

Eh, I managed to get all the way through college without a facebook or a tweeter. I’m for the most part clean. Unfortunately there’s probably pictures of me lying shit faced on the floor of the dorm bathroom pouring apple sauce all over my face with one hand and clutching a handle of bourbon in the other (alright that photo is definitely floating out there). So yea, I’m screwed. It’ll be tougher to attach these photos to my name through a basic background check because I don’t have any personal accounts, but I’m sure if I ever ran for office they’d be dug up.

As for all the stupid shit I’ve said on hot air and other conservative sites, I think I’ve been able to disguise myself for the most part. (My last name is not actually Nelsen; that’s a long story.) I have a different name for every site and I always use fake emails online when I register for stuff. And I think I’ve claimed to be attending the University of Minnesota, UW Madison, Notre Dame, University of Minnesota Duluth, Michigan and probably a few others atleast several times each on this site. I am from Duluth, though (or am I?!?!).

Nelsen on April 30, 2012 at 10:01 PM

The good news for all the unelectable candidates then is that someone’s still gotta win the thing.

Stoic Patriot on April 30, 2012 at 9:53 PM

Your comment puts me in mind of The Simpson’s episode where the choice came down to two space aliens.

Happy Nomad on April 30, 2012 at 10:02 PM

2040? They don’t even have primaries in the Gulag. Whadayu worrying about electability for?

Cleombrotus on April 30, 2012 at 10:03 PM

Man, forget Facebook. I’ll probably regret my “senior quote” in the high school yearbook. That is to say that somebody else will expect me to regret it. But I wont.

Probably.

Jeddite on April 30, 2012 at 10:09 PM

I think standards will change.

There was a time whe it would have been political suicide for any candidate to admit they had smoked marijuana when they were in college. I think it isn’t any longer. It’s not something people brag about, but if it came up for any given candidate I doubt it would be damaging.

And I suspect it’ll be the same for this in 30 years. Such peccadillos will b so common that they won’t be considered noteworthy.

Steven Den Beste on April 30, 2012 at 10:13 PM

I’m pretty sure that by 2040, having posted dumb sh-t on the Internet would have become so widespread that it won’t be considered a big deal anymore. Things change. Remember, at one point they threw single mothers in asylums.

Sharke on April 30, 2012 at 10:14 PM

Not EVERYONE is a Facebook lemming you know…

wildcat72 on April 30, 2012 at 10:15 PM

Steven Den Beste on April 30, 2012 at 10:13 PM

Before then, nerdy politicians will be looking for ways to get fake pictures post-dated to make them look cool to the voters who grew up seeing everyone they know in embarrassing situations.

Going to college and not having ribald pictures of it will be as ridiculed as smoking pot in the 60s and not inhaling.

pedestrian on April 30, 2012 at 10:27 PM

If the USA is still standing sovereign in 2040, we’ll find worthy candidates for all offices.

listens2glenn on April 30, 2012 at 10:30 PM

My plan has always been to run as a Democrat to avoid vetting, get elected on their platform, then change parties after I am in office and enact my conservative agenda. Piece of cake.

goflyers on April 30, 2012 at 11:11 PM

With all of the horrible, disgusting, and embarrassing things I’ve done and are documented on Facebook, I don’t think I’d be elected to an elementary school council (barring the fact that I’m in mid-twenties).

Shock the Monkey on April 30, 2012 at 11:19 PM

Meh, all this means is that we’ll all be desensitized to banaality, and should be able to focus on actual issues…

Or so I hope anyway.

Jones Zemkophill on May 1, 2012 at 12:20 AM

I’m 48 now. I don’t really expect I’ll be alive in 2040 to worry about it.

You people just go ahead and make as big a mess as you like.

Wolfmoon on May 1, 2012 at 12:31 AM

If the USA is still standing sovereign in 2040, we’ll find worthy candidates for all offices.

listens2glenn on April 30, 2012 at 10:30 PM

Umm. Why should things be different in 2040? We can’t find worthy candidates now.

nukemhill on May 1, 2012 at 12:55 AM

Pitch for the blockbuster remake of “The Manchurian Candidate”:

I think standards will change.
There was a time when it would have been political suicide for any candidate to admit they had smoked marijuana when they were in college. I think it isn’t any longer. It’s not something people brag about, but if it came up for any given candidate I doubt it would be damaging.
And I suspect it’ll be the same for this in 30 years. Such peccadillos will be so common that they won’t be considered noteworthy.
Steven Den Beste on April 30, 2012 at 10:13 PM

Meh, all this means is that we’ll all be desensitized to banality, and should be able to focus on actual issues…
Or so I hope anyway.
Jones Zemkophill on May 1, 2012 at 12:20 AM

Before then, nerdy politicians will be looking for ways to get fake pictures post-dated to make them look cool to the voters who grew up seeing everyone they know in embarrassing situations.
Going to college and not having ribald pictures of it will be as ridiculed as smoking pot in the 60s and not inhaling.
pedestrian on April 30, 2012 at 10:27 PM

My plan has always been to run as a Democrat to avoid vetting, get elected on their platform, then change parties after I am in office and enact my conservative agenda. Piece of cake.
goflyers on April 30, 2012 at 11:11 PM

AesopFan on May 1, 2012 at 1:13 AM

Well… Only the people I’ve approved can read my often toned down facebook remarks, so I’m safe….. Or are one of them collecting infomation to stop my inevitable takeover of the United States? We may never know…

timbok on May 1, 2012 at 2:49 AM

Do they allow people with paper bags on their heads to become president?

Because if so, I’ve got a shot — just so long as you ignore all the bizarre political pornography I’ve posted over the last nine years. That won’t count against me, will it?

Zombie on May 1, 2012 at 3:17 AM

Aaaand look at that! reason number umpteen I don’t do social media. Not because I’m worried about the implications for a political career, per se – I value things like privacy and peace and quiet far too much to ever submit to the kinda of media attention required to be successful at that kind of life – but think about it’s implications for getting a job in general. everything you’ve done, said, etc online, and all your future employers able to look it up with the snap of a finger? no thanks. I’d rather be judged on my qualifications, not thrown out of the pile because the interviewer doesn’t like something I posted on facebook once.

AndStatistics on May 1, 2012 at 3:33 AM

Well if you see the young ones now a days they cant even take care of themselves… how do you think they would take care of a whole country?

watertown on April 30, 2012 at 8:50 PM

Actually, there will always be those who take care of themselves. They’ll take from me and you one way or another in order to do it.

Dr. ZhivBlago on May 1, 2012 at 6:20 AM

think about it’s implications for getting a job in general.
AndStatistics on May 1, 2012 at 3:33 AM

I think there are a lot of young adults that have become much more careful with what they throw out there on the internet for exactly this reason. They learn quick when they start getting serious about their future.

lynncgb on May 1, 2012 at 7:28 AM

2040, pfft. Posting on here on HA will get you a ticket to the re-education camps sooner than that. *adjusts tinfoil helmet*.

bitsy on May 1, 2012 at 7:50 AM

Actually, the future is already here and it is worse than not being able to get a job or run for office. Mexican drug cartels are already targeting people who post stuff they don’t like on Twitter and Facebook.

bitsy on May 1, 2012 at 7:53 AM

Mexican drug cartels are already targeting people who post stuff they don’t like on Twitter and Facebook.

bitsy on May 1, 2012 at 7:53 AM

Who knew that Mexican drug cartels and liberals had something in common. Of course they aren’t exactly alike. One group is a vile collection of criminals, bandits, and assorted scum. The other group is mde up of Mexicans.

Happy Nomad on May 1, 2012 at 8:02 AM

Sad…,but true. :)

Irenaeus on May 1, 2012 at 8:14 AM

Heh. Good one, as always, from the Onion.

However, By the time 2040 rolls around (I’ll be 90, if I’m still alive. The egg McMuffin I had for breakfast says no though.) Facebook will have looooong been dead. Since it doesn’t allow caching of it’s pages, everything on it will be gone, the servers long deleted and junked.

Seriously. by 2040 the world as we know it will be so fundamentally changed that were we able to view it from here it would be unrecognizable. Good or bad, everything will be different. Such is life. And Facebook will be an anachronism of the past, it’s data long since lost, only remembered in the history archives of the Smithsonian or another historical society.

Not that you should party like it’s 1999 and put it all on Facebook, but you don’t have to be so worried for anything that far out.

wearyman on May 1, 2012 at 8:17 AM

Maybe the electorate of 2040 won’t care about youthful indescretions, and Anthony Weiner will be our 50th President.

Steve Z on May 1, 2012 at 9:34 AM

Internet scrubbing is already common practice, and if Obama can be elected president with no serious inquiry into his past, then it can happen again.

Citizen-003528 on May 1, 2012 at 9:55 AM

Exit question: C’mon, they’re not going to vet Democrats in 2040 either, right?

“They” aren’t going to exist in 2040. The breakup of the Democrat-media complex will be complete by then. Nobody will be reading a newspaper or watching NBC Nightly News.

rockmom on May 1, 2012 at 10:29 AM

Good thing I’m not on facebook.

Nominate me now and I’ll defeat whatever liberal squish they put in front of me.

Defenestratus on May 1, 2012 at 10:29 AM

This assumes electricity will still be legal in 2040.

BobMbx on May 1, 2012 at 10:48 AM

Not that I’d ever consider running for elected office, but there’s nothing like this available against me. However, two bedwetting, dope-smoking, RDDB liberal brothers who make Billy Carter look like Dwight Eisenhower, those would definitely impact my chances.

So would my ongoing fights with the IRS over the taxable status of the disability portion of my military pension. Funny, they only started attacking me on that after I began writing to Senators Boxer and Feinstein every week about all of the things they are doing to damage this nation. Weird coincidence, yes?

Freelancer on May 1, 2012 at 12:24 PM

Nah, we are already on our way to Idiocracy.

Fallon on April 30, 2012 at 9:16 PM

That’s what I’ve been saying since Obummer got in.
We’ve already had a pot smoking draft evading rapist/molester in the WH, and now a coke snorting foreign-aid affirmative action college radical turned socialist aggitator – so why not a pro-wrestler porn star with Facebook photos of his drunken party days?

dentarthurdent on May 1, 2012 at 12:52 PM

This assumes electricity will still be legal in 2040.

BobMbx on May 1, 2012 at 10:48 AM

Ahhhh – good point. Nobody will see any Facebook photos once they outlaw energy and put us back in the stone age – to save the planet of course.

dentarthurdent on May 1, 2012 at 1:02 PM

This assumes electricity will still be legal in 2040.

BobMbx on May 1, 2012 at 10:48 AM

Like, HEY! Like, why do we make electrons work for so much without pay and, like for, 24/7/365? I’m starting a Union For The Ethical Treatment Of Electrons… right after I get finished with my bong, maaaaan….. /

Turtle317 on May 1, 2012 at 4:21 PM